Thoughts on iPhone 5S / 5C?

[Altis]

Wouldn't it be ironic if they got your fingerprint by taking a high resolution macro photo of the finger print home button itself.

It's interesting stuff, but it's not something I particularly want.  Kind of like touch screen desktops, cloud services, etc...

[YoungMichael88]

I just want to stop my brother and friends from putting up ridiculous backgrounds on my phone and changing the language to Japanese. As far as 4 digit codes or swipe patterns go I have personally got past those patterns just by watching my brother access his S3 from time to time. I think people are looking too deeply into this scanner as if there phone contains nude pictures of Mila Kunis or nuclear launch codes.

[tormentor]

Lol. That's what I think of iSheep.

[vyshane]

The 5s is a solid phone. As usual though, if you already have the immediate predecessor (the iPhone 5), there's no need to rush and upgrade. Unless you want Touch ID. I think that it's going to be one of those things that once you've used it you wouldn't want to go back to the old way of doing things. The 5s is a great upgrade if you're on a 4s though.

The 5c is an exercise in badge engineering. It's basically an iPhone 5, changed for two important reasons:

1) Different exterior design gets rid of the "buying last year's model" stigma.
2) It's most probably cheaper to make than the current iPhone 5.

Unfortunately, although the 5c is the cheaper iPhone model, it's actually a very expensive phone compared to what's out there. I wouldn't really recommend getting the 5c. If you're going to be spending that kind of money on a phone you might as well get the 5s.

[YoungMichael88]

I was planning on buying a 5S later this month but I think after reading this I will wait.

http://www.itproportal.com/2013/10/07/a-closer-look-at-the-iphone-5s-and-apples-faulty-sensors/#14

[rowdy]

Apple might leave the fault in, and alter the OS to compensate.

Or provide exchanges.

Of the more than 9 million sold so far, the number of problem handsets is probably extremely low.

[YoungMichael88]

It sounds like it could be a lot of handsets and they're not all malfunctioning by the same amount either. I know they will fix/exchange it but I'm not sure I want to buy one knowing there's a good change I will face some problems that could just be a big hassle to get fixed. I'm already on a waiting list for one....

[dustinhxc]

I say if you have a 4s or lower or an android or windows then yes get the 5s if you have a 5 then wait for 6 The 64 bit OS is sweet but still 1GB RAM so no go for me to upgrade. Ive upgraded every model too! 

[sordna]

Out of topic, but when you have an AT&T iPhone unlocked, does the Personal Hotspot menu option appear, or do you still get the stupid message telling you to call 611 or visit the att website ?  What happens if you put another carrier's sim, do you still get the message to call at&t to enable the personal hotspot?

[demik]

I just want to stop my brother and friends from putting up ridiculous backgrounds on my phone and changing the language to Japanese. As far as 4 digit codes or swipe patterns go I have personally got past those patterns just by watching my brother access his S3 from time to time. I think people are looking too deeply into this scanner as if there phone contains nude pictures of Mila Kunis or nuclear launch codes.

Mila nudes > codes

[baldgye]

If anyone here is looking at the new iPhones and hasn't already got an iPhone as an iPhone 5 user (and previous iphone 4 user) I'd suggest waiting for io7 to be fixed. It's so buggy and ****ty atm it's a real bummer. So many aspects of it are broken, sluggish and just bad.

I'd wait for another year and get the iPhone 6 that will probablly be a significant change from the 5's and with any luck have some upgrades and fixes for iOS 7

[YoungMichael88]

I have been waiting forever for the 5S to be available in my town and I've been getting screwed over again and again. I really planned on getting this phone but it seems like by the time I can get it, it will already be 4 months old or so. So do I wait for 6 or just get it? My iPhone 4 is just incredibly slow and outdated. And no, I absolutely will not go droid or windows. Nothing against those who do use them I just don't want anything else.

[dustinhxc]

If anyone here is looking at the new iPhones and hasn't already got an iPhone as an iPhone 5 user (and previous iphone 4 user) I'd suggest waiting for io7 to be fixed. It's so buggy and ****ty atm it's a real bummer. So many aspects of it are broken, sluggish and just bad.

I'd wait for another year and get the iPhone 6 that will probablly be a significant change from the 5's and with any luck have some upgrades and fixes for iOS 7

I upgraded to the newest iOS 7 firmware and all of my backups got corrupted somehow. Had to load a 5 month old backup. Lost a ton of ****!

[baldgye]

I have been waiting forever for the 5S to be available in my town and I've been getting screwed over again and again. I really planned on getting this phone but it seems like by the time I can get it, it will already be 4 months old or so. So do I wait for 6 or just get it? My iPhone 4 is just incredibly slow and outdated. And no, I absolutely will not go droid or windows. Nothing against those who do use them I just don't want anything else.

If you have a 4, why didn't you get a 5?
I got a 4 about 3months after it came out and upgraded to a 5 when it came out, seems the best way to go about it, upgrading to the .5 hardware updates seems super lame IMO...
Given the price i dont see the point in buying a 5C, the S is a better phone and you can put it in a coloured case if that's what you want...

But if you can wait for the 6, or at least for iOS7 to not suck total **** then I'd wait, it's been nothing but a total bummer... having all my old standing well made apps ruined to fit the new look and having the OS randomly break and crash for seemingly no reason.

[pichu23]

If anyone here is looking at the new iPhones and hasn't already got an iPhone as an iPhone 5 user (and previous iphone 4 user) I'd suggest waiting for io7 to be fixed. It's so buggy and ****ty atm it's a real bummer. So many aspects of it are broken, sluggish and just bad.

I'd wait for another year and get the iPhone 6 that will probablly be a significant change from the 5's and with any luck have some upgrades and fixes for iOS 7

I'm running ios 7.0.3 fine on my 4S tho :/

[baldgye]

If anyone here is looking at the new iPhones and hasn't already got an iPhone as an iPhone 5 user (and previous iphone 4 user) I'd suggest waiting for io7 to be fixed. It's so buggy and ****ty atm it's a real bummer. So many aspects of it are broken, sluggish and just bad.

I'd wait for another year and get the iPhone 6 that will probablly be a significant change from the 5's and with any luck have some upgrades and fixes for iOS 7

I'm running ios 7.0.3 fine on my 4S tho :/

I'm not talking about its performance, just that the OS has so many problems I never had on iOS 6, though when the App draw works, its pretty good.

[pichu23]

If anyone here is looking at the new iPhones and hasn't already got an iPhone as an iPhone 5 user (and previous iphone 4 user) I'd suggest waiting for io7 to be fixed. It's so buggy and ****ty atm it's a real bummer. So many aspects of it are broken, sluggish and just bad.

I'd wait for another year and get the iPhone 6 that will probablly be a significant change from the 5's and with any luck have some upgrades and fixes for iOS 7

I'm running ios 7.0.3 fine on my 4S tho :/

I'm not talking about its performance, just that the OS has so many problems I never had on iOS 6, though when the App draw works, its pretty good.

I see. It's not that snappy on the 4S. I've seen my friend's 5 and it feels so much snappier.

[baldgye]

If anyone here is looking at the new iPhones and hasn't already got an iPhone as an iPhone 5 user (and previous iphone 4 user) I'd suggest waiting for io7 to be fixed. It's so buggy and ****ty atm it's a real bummer. So many aspects of it are broken, sluggish and just bad.

I'd wait for another year and get the iPhone 6 that will probablly be a significant change from the 5's and with any luck have some upgrades and fixes for iOS 7

I'm running ios 7.0.3 fine on my 4S tho :/

I'm not talking about its performance, just that the OS has so many problems I never had on iOS 6, though when the App draw works, its pretty good.

I see. It's not that snappy on the 4S. I've seen my friend's 5 and it feels so much snappier.

Yeah I can imagine, but even so... using the phone is now so much slower becasue I have to wait so long for the silly new animations...

[pichu23]

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If anyone here is looking at the new iPhones and hasn't already got an iPhone as an iPhone 5 user (and previous iphone 4 user) I'd suggest waiting for io7 to be fixed. It's so buggy and ****ty atm it's a real bummer. So many aspects of it are broken, sluggish and just bad.

I'd wait for another year and get the iPhone 6 that will probablly be a significant change from the 5's and with any luck have some upgrades and fixes for iOS 7

I'm running ios 7.0.3 fine on my 4S tho :/

I'm not talking about its performance, just that the OS has so many problems I never had on iOS 6, though when the App draw works, its pretty good.

I see. It's not that snappy on the 4S. I've seen my friend's 5 and it feels so much snappier.

Yeah I can imagine, but even so... using the phone is now so much slower becasue I have to wait so long for the silly new animations...

I understand what you mean. It's suppose to look nicer and most fluid I guess compared to the older OS.

[YoungMichael88]

Yea I didn't upgrade from 4 to 5 because my contract is just now coming to an end and they are just too expensive to buy straight up. I'll see what happens. I also have a feeling the 6 is going to be significantly different to compete with all the options out there from other companies.

[baldgye]

Yea I didn't upgrade from 4 to 5 because my contract is just now coming to an end and they are just too expensive to buy straight up. I'll see what happens. I also have a feeling the 6 is going to be significantly different to compete with all the options out there from other companies.

I wouldn't go betting on it being too different... sure it'll probably look different and be faster but if you look at the change between the 3GS and the 4.. and the 4 and the 5 the differences aren't so big and the only really meaningful change since the original iphone was the jump in screen size

[dustinhxc]

If anyone here is looking at the new iPhones and hasn't already got an iPhone as an iPhone 5 user (and previous iphone 4 user) I'd suggest waiting for io7 to be fixed. It's so buggy and ****ty atm it's a real bummer. So many aspects of it are broken, sluggish and just bad.

I'd wait for another year and get the iPhone 6 that will probablly be a significant change from the 5's and with any luck have some upgrades and fixes for iOS 7

I'm running ios 7.0.3 fine on my 4S tho :/

I'm not talking about its performance, just that the OS has so many problems I never had on iOS 6, though when the App draw works, its pretty good.

I see. It's not that snappy on the 4S. I've seen my friend's 5 and it feels so much snappier.

Yeah I can imagine, but even so... using the phone is now so much slower becasue I have to wait so long for the silly new animations...

Thats the only reason I want the 5s is for the 64 bit processor to make the animations run better. You can disable most of them in settings though, I did.

[baldgye]

If anyone here is looking at the new iPhones and hasn't already got an iPhone as an iPhone 5 user (and previous iphone 4 user) I'd suggest waiting for io7 to be fixed. It's so buggy and ****ty atm it's a real bummer. So many aspects of it are broken, sluggish and just bad.

I'd wait for another year and get the iPhone 6 that will probablly be a significant change from the 5's and with any luck have some upgrades and fixes for iOS 7

I'm running ios 7.0.3 fine on my 4S tho :/

I'm not talking about its performance, just that the OS has so many problems I never had on iOS 6, though when the App draw works, its pretty good.

I see. It's not that snappy on the 4S. I've seen my friend's 5 and it feels so much snappier.

Yeah I can imagine, but even so... using the phone is now so much slower becasue I have to wait so long for the silly new animations...

Thats the only reason I want the 5s is for the 64 bit processor to make the animations run better. You can disable most of them in settings though, I did.

run better? And how do you disable the animations?

[dustinhxc]

If anyone here is looking at the new iPhones and hasn't already got an iPhone as an iPhone 5 user (and previous iphone 4 user) I'd suggest waiting for io7 to be fixed. It's so buggy and ****ty atm it's a real bummer. So many aspects of it are broken, sluggish and just bad.

I'd wait for another year and get the iPhone 6 that will probablly be a significant change from the 5's and with any luck have some upgrades and fixes for iOS 7

I'm running ios 7.0.3 fine on my 4S tho :/

I'm not talking about its performance, just that the OS has so many problems I never had on iOS 6, though when the App draw works, its pretty good.

I see. It's not that snappy on the 4S. I've seen my friend's 5 and it feels so much snappier.

Yeah I can imagine, but even so... using the phone is now so much slower becasue I have to wait so long for the silly new animations...

Thats the only reason I want the 5s is for the 64 bit processor to make the animations run better. You can disable most of them in settings though, I did.

run better? And how do you disable the animations?

Faster processor means no / less lag.

Settings, general, accessibility, reduce motion On.
Also I turn background app refresh off .

[baldgye]

Reduce motion, dsnt that just remove the bkground scrolling??

Also my iphone 5 has zero lag... It's just that every animation takes 4x as long as it did in the previous OS for no reason other than to look nice... And that's a push... It's actually insane if you lock your phone and then see how long it takes for you to open spotlight it takes so much longer on the new OS than precious versions simply because your waiting on animations.

[Oobly]

Overhyped, overpriced and locked in. I prefer to be able to customise my phone experience and have GOOD sensors and AMOLED displays. Got a Note 2.

Although while Android claims to give you true freedom, it's not quite true. you're still locked in and analysed since you have to have a Google account to use it. But there's not much out there to compete.

I'm far more excited about Jolla!

Truly open OS and Android app compatibility. Best of both worlds

[sordna]

Ubuntu Phone looks interesting too

[dustinhxc]

Reduce motion, dsnt that just remove the bkground scrolling??

Also my iphone 5 has zero lag... It's just that every animation takes 4x as long as it did in the previous OS for no reason other than to look nice... And that's a push... It's actually insane if you lock your phone and then see how long it takes for you to open spotlight it takes so much longer on the new OS than precious versions simply because your waiting on animations.

Youre right it just reduces it, it doesnt disable everything. I see what your saying yes it does take longer!

Ubuntu Phone looks interesting too

OMG YES here is my money!

[Oobly]

Ubuntu Phone looks interesting too

Yup, that's a nice one, too, although they didn't reach their kickstarter goal, but I don't think that will stop them.

[paicrai]

My thoughts would be not to upgrade if you have the normal 5, because a slightly more stabilized camera and a treat for the NSA, plus a 0.3 something times faster processor isn't worth another 700 - 1000 dollars.

If you have the 4/4S or didn't have one at all, totally go for one, though.