!!! Ohhhh bboooyy!! Got my heavy domes installed in HHKB... bajeesus. Whoever compared these to breakin off pieces of a Hershey bar was absolutely spot on. The crisp. The Thock.
Bless.
I've been typing on the heavies for a few days now. My biggest complaint is that they totally ruined stock topre switches for me. I left one 55g dome in on my f12 key - it pretty much feels linear in comparison to the new domes.
Mine arrived yesterday, didn't have the chance to actually swap them into a board but I did have a loose 45g dome to compare them with, and these things really do live up to the bubblewrap/hershey bar comparisons. Now my only problem is that I want to get a ton of them to swap all my boards, though I will have to test out whether I like the heavy or light more.
Just got my BKE Redux Dome Replacements from Keyclack, the feeling is just heavenly <3https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7fzjh9/photos_bke_redux_norbatouch_with_mito_canvas/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7fzjh9/photos_bke_redux_norbatouch_with_mito_canvas/)
Got my heavies this morning. I haven't installed them yet because I'm still waiting on a few things for my novatouch rebuild, but just sitting here comparing the tactility to the 45g topre domes is like night and day. I think what others have said is true: this will ruin standard topre domes for you, the BKE domes feel so much more comfortable and like 400% more tactile. They're spectacular. I wish I went with the 110 pack now :D
I'm so eager to get these installed... HURRY UP JTK TOXIC!
I completely agree with the community's consensus, these are leaps and bounds more tactile than stock domes. The hershey's bar analogy is really apt. I have another fc660c with stock domes, and it feels totally mushy in comparison. I'm going to have to do another domeswap for my RF now, too.https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7gbf1g/bke_redux_variable_dome_swap_on_silenced_fc660c/dqhvx2u/
Before this, I thought stock topre and MX Clears were tactile, but the snappiness of these domes completely **** on every switch I've ever tried. The best way I can describe them is comparing them to the feeling of popping bubble wrap. Who doesn't like bubble wrap? That **** is amazing, and these domes are just as amazinghttps://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7g9l6h/redux_bke_domes_thoughts/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7g9l6h/redux_bke_domes_thoughts/)
I've been typing nonstop this past weekend and I have to say that I am quite impressed with these. THEY ARE SO DAMN SNAPPY AND TACTILE. They are everything that I wanted and more! This is my first review on this subreddit.https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7g2j4y/realforce_rgb_bke_redux_dome_swap/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7g2j4y/realforce_rgb_bke_redux_dome_swap/)
The tactile bump on these is satisfyingly strong. Very snappy so it needs to be silenced. Other than that I am a happy camperhttps://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7fqrag/just_installed_bke_redux_heavy_domes_with/dqdpy4g/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7fqrag/just_installed_bke_redux_heavy_domes_with/dqdpy4g/)
Friends. I must say this mod is amazing. Much tactile such bounce. I only installed them on the modifiers for now. OMG the space bar definitely needed this!https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7fctjh/new_bke_dome_swap_coming_up/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7fctjh/new_bke_dome_swap_coming_up/)
Cool idea.
I use two springs on my Realforce spacebar, so having different weights would be great to offer. Something like 10g, 20g, and 40g?
Definitely a cool idea, if it works out at the end I'll maybe buy some to test them out.
Are you still working on the MX springs or was that plan dropped?
Cool idea.
I use two springs on my Realforce spacebar, so having different weights would be great to offer. Something like 10g, 20g, and 40g?
Different weights are definitely the way to go. I'd personally want to try a 52g topre.Definitely a cool idea, if it works out at the end I'll maybe buy some to test them out.
Are you still working on the MX springs or was that plan dropped?
MX is in the back burner right now and was going to get canceled with spirits GB but it looks like I might have to manufacture that.
For now, focused more on topre since it's something I'd personally like to have more :)
You're putting a 10g switch under the keycap/on the stem, not in the keyboard itself. Effectively it will add 10g.
Those would be way too hard to recreate. But you're right, it's the domes that depict the weight.You're putting a 10g switch under the keycap/on the stem, not in the keyboard itself. Effectively it will add 10g.
I see, I think I misunderstood, I thought we are trying to replace the capacitive spring under the dome itself.
Just wanted to update this!Quality will need to be top notch.
We are changing the project to become a TOPRE DOME project instead. We are currently working on the 3D model of the domes.
Hype!
Just wanted to update this!
We are changing the project to become a TOPRE DOME project instead. We are currently working on the 3D model of the domes.
Hype!
Just wanted to update this!Quality will need to be top notch.
We are changing the project to become a TOPRE DOME project instead. We are currently working on the 3D model of the domes.
Hype!
Just wanted to update this!Quality will need to be top notch.
We are changing the project to become a TOPRE DOME project instead. We are currently working on the 3D model of the domes.
Hype!
Will PM RAMA about it. Hope he can spare a minute to help me on this :).
Just wanted to update this!Quality will need to be top notch.
We are changing the project to become a TOPRE DOME project instead. We are currently working on the 3D model of the domes.
Hype!
Will PM RAMA about it. Hope he can spare a minute to help me on this :).
Do you have a list of weight options in mind for the domes?
Just wanted to update this!Quality will need to be top notch.
We are changing the project to become a TOPRE DOME project instead. We are currently working on the 3D model of the domes.
Hype!
Will PM RAMA about it. Hope he can spare a minute to help me on this :).
Do you have a list of weight options in mind for the domes?
55g, 60g, and 65g i believe.
No ballpark on price. No Quotes.
Hi everyone,
It has taken a while to get this going, but I finally found someone to help me with this.
I've gotten the model of a the topre domes made, and also I've sent the samples out to a manufacturer to look at, so we have 2 points of reference to go off of.
One of these things is not like the other.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3qz1aOE.jpg)
man if you could just get a pcb going and some other parts, could make topre board without any PFU stuff
man if you could just get a pcb going and some other parts, could make topre board without any PFU stuff
As cool as that sounds i doubt it's as easy as you make it sound to be.
someone on DT already made a custom PCB. I can't imagine a plate is that difficult
Another image.
TLDR
Going to get some community feedback from people about these, and ask about improvements, and issues with them. they'll be shipped around to some people who know their Topre, and if they choose to, they'll post a review online - it's completely their choice.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rR0ZAQT.jpg)
Hyped! Also interested to see if anyone can do a comparison with the BKE domes.
My HHKB Pro JP just came in and I'm REALLY hoping to bump these up to a 55g dome. Let's hope this IC is a success story!
My HHKB Pro JP just came in and I'm REALLY hoping to bump these up to a 55g dome. Let's hope this IC is a success story!
Hopefully i can do the same. Just bought another hhkb jp as well to get some 55g domes for.
What did you need the springs for?My HHKB Pro JP just came in and I'm REALLY hoping to bump these up to a 55g dome. Let's hope this IC is a success story!
Hopefully i can do the same. Just bought another hhkb jp as well to get some 55g domes for.
I got impatient today, and tore apart my RF87u for the domes and springs. But now I have a domeless RF and it looks so deflated and sad...
What did you need the springs for?My HHKB Pro JP just came in and I'm REALLY hoping to bump these up to a 55g dome. Let's hope this IC is a success story!
Hopefully i can do the same. Just bought another hhkb jp as well to get some 55g domes for.
I got impatient today, and tore apart my RF87u for the domes and springs. But now I have a domeless RF and it looks so deflated and sad...
The weight difference is in the domes.
YesWhat did you need the springs for?My HHKB Pro JP just came in and I'm REALLY hoping to bump these up to a 55g dome. Let's hope this IC is a success story!
Hopefully i can do the same. Just bought another hhkb jp as well to get some 55g domes for.
I got impatient today, and tore apart my RF87u for the domes and springs. But now I have a domeless RF and it looks so deflated and sad...
The weight difference is in the domes.
The springs are all 5g yeah?
My HHKB Pro JP just came in and I'm REALLY hoping to bump these up to a 55g dome. Let's hope this IC is a success story!
Hopefully i can do the same. Just bought another hhkb jp as well to get some 55g domes for.
I got impatient today, and tore apart my RF87u for the domes and springs. But now I have a domeless RF and it looks so deflated and sad...
Another image.
TLDR
Going to get some community feedback from people about these, and ask about improvements, and issues with them. they'll be shipped around to some people who know their Topre, and if they choose to, they'll post a review online - it's completely their choice.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rR0ZAQT.jpg)
Another image.I'm confused. I keep hearing people talking about BKE domes being reproduced, but the BKE dome pics I find online look much different then these. Are these domes in the picture something else in addition to the BKE dome reproductions?
TLDR
Going to get some community feedback from people about these, and ask about improvements, and issues with them. they'll be shipped around to some people who know their Topre, and if they choose to, they'll post a review online - it's completely their choice.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rR0ZAQT.jpg)Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/9/91/Sony_BKE-2010_-_Dome_closeup.JPG)
Another image.
TLDR
Going to get some community feedback from people about these, and ask about improvements, and issues with them. they'll be shipped around to some people who know their Topre, and if they choose to, they'll post a review online - it's completely their choice.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rR0ZAQT.jpg)
I'm confused. I keep hearing people talking about BKE domes being reproduced, but the BKE dome pics I find online look much different then these. Are these domes in the picture something else in addition to the BKE dome reproductions?Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/9/91/Sony_BKE-2010_-_Dome_closeup.JPG)
What did you need the springs for?My HHKB Pro JP just came in and I'm REALLY hoping to bump these up to a 55g dome. Let's hope this IC is a success story!
Hopefully i can do the same. Just bought another hhkb jp as well to get some 55g domes for.
I got impatient today, and tore apart my RF87u for the domes and springs. But now I have a domeless RF and it looks so deflated and sad...
The weight difference is in the domes.
The springs are all 5g yeah?
Another image.
TLDR
Going to get some community feedback from people about these, and ask about improvements, and issues with them. they'll be shipped around to some people who know their Topre, and if they choose to, they'll post a review online - it's completely their choice.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rR0ZAQT.jpg)
I'm confused. I keep hearing people talking about BKE domes being reproduced, but the BKE dome pics I find online look much different then these. Are these domes in the picture something else in addition to the BKE dome reproductions?Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/9/91/Sony_BKE-2010_-_Dome_closeup.JPG)
Quick Update
I had a quick moment to test out the domes and how they compare to Realforce 50g ones. They are slightly heavier than 50g.
I've sent the samples out to people so they can test them out already, and hope to get feedback soon.
If all goes well, we might be able to proceed very soon, but only if the feedback is positive. If not, we'll go back to adjusting our models.
Quick Update
I had a quick moment to test out the domes and how they compare to Realforce 50g ones. They are slightly heavier than 50g.
I've sent the samples out to people so they can test them out already, and hope to get feedback soon.
If all goes well, we might be able to proceed very soon, but only if the feedback is positive. If not, we'll go back to adjusting our models.
Pros
+ Cheap way to get heavier domes.
+ Nice and smooth.
+ Crisp bump.
+ The added tactility feels really nice.
Cons
ー Domes seem to come as individuals. Hard to seat and keep seated.
Neutral
- Feels a lot heavier than the stock domes on my fc660c. Take this however you will.
- May be a bit too heavy for leopold boards, especially since they sit around 50g stock as it is, but may feel perfect for other boards.
Overall
KeyClack's new topre domes are a nice addition to any topre fans looking for a heavier experience out of their 45g topre boards without the money to shell out for a 55g realforce. The tactility gets a nice increase from the domeswap. My only complaint is that these domes, for now, seem to only come as individuals. Without any way to keep the dome seated on the board, even putting in one dome was an annoying experience. The dome definitely delivers on what it's trying to do.
Installing domes one by one obviously takes a lot of time, but I'm surprised that reviewer had seating issues. Were they trying to place the domes directly on the PCB or something? Best way to do it is to drop them into the sliders with the sliders hanging all the way down (just get two boxes and put them at the edges of the plate so the sliders aren't pressing against anything).
Installing domes one by one obviously takes a lot of time, but I'm surprised that reviewer had seating issues. Were they trying to place the domes directly on the PCB or something? Best way to do it is to drop them into the sliders with the sliders hanging all the way down (just get two boxes and put them at the edges of the plate so the sliders aren't pressing against anything).
This is exactly what I did when I dome-swapped my HHKB. You just need to make sure to shim it underneath so that the sliders will hang down.
Installing domes one by one obviously takes a lot of time, but I'm surprised that reviewer had seating issues. Were they trying to place the domes directly on the PCB or something? Best way to do it is to drop them into the sliders with the sliders hanging all the way down (just get two boxes and put them at the edges of the plate so the sliders aren't pressing against anything).
This is exactly what I did when I dome-swapped my HHKB. You just need to make sure to shim it underneath so that the sliders will hang down.
I've only done a NT dome swap.
How do you feel about having an adhesive side on the dome so it sticks to the pcb?
I wonder if the guy put the domes on the PCB or on the housings. You should put in on the housings (from my experience). There are already pins to help line them up, as seen here:I've had issues where the spring didn't sit flat when placing the domes in the housing. I would definitely prefer if they were glued properly at the factory, but putting glue myself would be tedious go say the leastShow Image(https://www.keychatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/keychatter_2015-07-21_21-01-33.jpg)
Adhesive would be annoying in my opinion; if you stick them on in the wrong place, you're kinda screwed.
There is no adhesive applied in the factory correct? I always assumed the domes kinda stuck to the PCB because rubber tends to naturally adhere to smooth surfaces overtime. I might be down if it was a really light adhesive that didn't leave residue on the PCB, just so the domes stayed in place if you have to open it back up.
There is no adhesive applied in the factory correct? I always assumed the domes kinda stuck to the PCB because rubber tends to naturally adhere to smooth surfaces overtime. I might be down if it was a really light adhesive that didn't leave residue on the PCB, just so the domes stayed in place if you have to open it back up.
Ours will use 3M adhesive. Only the best.
There is no adhesive applied in the factory correct? I always assumed the domes kinda stuck to the PCB because rubber tends to naturally adhere to smooth surfaces overtime. I might be down if it was a really light adhesive that didn't leave residue on the PCB, just so the domes stayed in place if you have to open it back up.
Ours will use 3M adhesive. Only the best.
I'm not sure how I feel about adhesive. I've done a few dome swaps and I feel like having the domes stick to the PCB would be real annoying.
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My Response
The dome was measured. It's about 155g if you use the coin test to measure it so the dome hits the bottom.
I'll be adjusting the model to get somewhere around 75g.
These aren't the BKE dome clones, that's a separate project.
Please excuse my ignorance: can this dome be used on the Topre 108 RGB without losing MX compatibility? Seems like the dome would go underneath the cap housing/stem, so it shouldn't be a problem. Just figured I'd ask to make sure.
Anyway I'm super excited by this project. I'm thinking I should buy enough for every board I would eventually plan on buying, just in case. Unfortunately I only specified on the form that I want 110. I'm going to resubmit the form for a larger order. I hope this doesn't cause any confusion.
I'm positive I'm going to want to upgrade to the BKE as well when and if they come out. >_<
New samples are being made this week!:confused:
Should have them by next week. Hyped!
Exciting! Has anyone thought about what we will call these? I really like how people call their novatouches with Norbauer's case the "norbatouch".
jchan domes? keyclack domes? kc/jc domes?
J Cups?
J Cups?
LOL YES!
I wonder if the guy put the domes on the PCB or on the housings. You should put in on the housings (from my experience). There are already pins to help line them up, as seen here:Show Image(https://www.keychatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/keychatter_2015-07-21_21-01-33.jpg)
Adhesive would be annoying in my opinion; if you stick them on in the wrong place, you're kinda screwed.
New ones came in, and they're pretty good. These are 70g
70g domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/UBOOcuo.jpg)
Real Force domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LnXQEhE.jpg)
HHKB domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/o0JcTWH.jpg)
New ones came in, and they're pretty good. These are 70g
70g domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/UBOOcuo.jpg)
Real Force domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LnXQEhE.jpg)
HHKB domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/o0JcTWH.jpg)
How do they feel as far as tactility goes?
New ones came in, and they're pretty good. These are 70g
70g domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/UBOOcuo.jpg)
Real Force domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LnXQEhE.jpg)
I like big bumps and I cannot lie.
HHKB domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/o0JcTWH.jpg)
How do they feel as far as tactility goes?
I'll send you like 4 of em. Feel pretty good. I'd describe it as a huge bump.
New ones came in, and they're pretty good. These are 70g
70g domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/UBOOcuo.jpg)
Real Force domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LnXQEhE.jpg)
HHKB domeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/o0JcTWH.jpg)
Someone mentioned 55g domes bottom out at 80g so these are 55g copies (75g + 5g from the spring). Makes a lot more sense now.
Someone mentioned 55g domes bottom out at 80g so these are 55g copies (75g + 5g from the spring). Makes a lot more sense now.
Someone mentioned 55g domes bottom out at 80g so these are 55g copies (75g + 5g from the spring). Makes a lot more sense now.
The domes labeled Realforce look dark like the 55g domes though and have 10 nickels on top, which would be 50g (and the HHKB dome has 8 i.e. 40g). So I think these latest J Cups are indeed just heavier.
Someone mentioned 55g domes bottom out at 80g so these are 55g copies (75g + 5g from the spring). Makes a lot more sense now.
The domes labeled Realforce look dark like the 55g domes though and have 10 nickels on top, which would be 50g (and the HHKB dome has 8 i.e. 40g). So I think these latest J Cups are indeed just heavier.
So this is what's interesting about the JDomes.
Clearly, the bottom out force is signifcantly higher, I feel that the domes actuation force is close to the Realforce domes. There is a nice big bump in the beginning, which I really like.
I sent final review samples to Gajible, and Quakemz, who may or may not post some final feedback on the domes, but I highly encourage that they do.
I'm really excited, and we're almost there.
Please fill out the form if you haven't.
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Lastly, we're still trying to mock up the BKE dome, and make sure that it's good to go. I hope we get it done very soon and follow up after this GB is over with.
I'm going to quote a 1 month turnaround time for this GB, as the manufacturer has been extremely timely with their current turnaround times.
Someone mentioned 55g domes bottom out at 80g so these are 55g copies (75g + 5g from the spring). Makes a lot more sense now.
The domes labeled Realforce look dark like the 55g domes though and have 10 nickels on top, which would be 50g (and the HHKB dome has 8 i.e. 40g). So I think these latest J Cups are indeed just heavier.
So this is what's interesting about the JDomes.
Clearly, the bottom out force is signifcantly higher, I feel that the domes actuation force is close to the Realforce domes. There is a nice big bump in the beginning, which I really like.
I sent final review samples to Gajible, and Quakemz, who may or may not post some final feedback on the domes, but I highly encourage that they do.
I'm really excited, and we're almost there.
Please fill out the form if you haven't.
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Lastly, we're still trying to mock up the BKE dome, and make sure that it's good to go. I hope we get it done very soon and follow up after this GB is over with.
I'm going to quote a 1 month turnaround time for this GB, as the manufacturer has been extremely timely with their current turnaround times.
Someone mentioned 55g domes bottom out at 80g so these are 55g copies (75g + 5g from the spring). Makes a lot more sense now.
The domes labeled Realforce look dark like the 55g domes though and have 10 nickels on top, which would be 50g (and the HHKB dome has 8 i.e. 40g). So I think these latest J Cups are indeed just heavier.
So this is what's interesting about the JDomes.
Clearly, the bottom out force is signifcantly higher, I feel that the domes actuation force is close to the Realforce domes. There is a nice big bump in the beginning, which I really like.
I sent final review samples to Gajible, and Quakemz, who may or may not post some final feedback on the domes, but I highly encourage that they do.
I'm really excited, and we're almost there.
Please fill out the form if you haven't.
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Lastly, we're still trying to mock up the BKE dome, and make sure that it's good to go. I hope we get it done very soon and follow up after this GB is over with.
I'm going to quote a 1 month turnaround time for this GB, as the manufacturer has been extremely timely with their current turnaround times.
So i touched a bke this weekend and am in love. In for both. tyvmjc
Having skimmed through this thread: am I correct in thinking that the 70g domes have the same actuation (more or less) as 55g Topre domes. Or are we talking about domes with a 70g actuation?
Do we expect these to work on Topre clone keyboards like Plum etc?
With these, bke domes, those other ones from Seattle meetup, upcoming fc660c and 980c aluminum cases, I think I'm gonna have to sell my MX boards and get more topre. I like my two the way they are but I'll need more. At least 3. Uhg.
Actually, jchan is also working with someone else to replicate/mimic BKE domes too, so I'm getting both from him :P
Actually, jchan is also working with someone else to replicate/mimic BKE domes too, so I'm getting both from him :P
What weight are the BKE domes?
Just wanted to bump this, as I saw some posts on this.Thanks for the update jchan. Can't wait to try both bke and 55g.
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Last week, I had a good chat with a new manufacturer, and I had some third parties visit them in Asia to confirm a few things. Basically, few things are moving.
I paid for a new sample mold for the 55g + BKE domes.
The mold will be produced after Sept 6, and samples delivered at the end of Sept to me.
After that, we will run through some QC and then see how to proceed.
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The biggest thing about the domes is the quality. It is so immensely important to get the feeling and rubber right on it.
Once we have good samples, we'll be proceeding, but this is kinda "pending", but I made a little progress.
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Lastly, in order to alleviate the whole "GB PROCESS", and "WAITING" period, I'll be skipping that here.
In any case, we have a small waiting game for the samples.
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Some people who will receive the samples as they helped me on the backend for this to get it to where it is today:
- Platabear
- Quakemz
- Thedford
- Gajible
- ?
- ?
I have 70 domes of each total, and they get 10 each.
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I hope this update is substantial enough, as I want to state that manufacturers are a dime a dozen, and hopefully we're closing in the one that can provide us the amazing feels that we desire.
TopresqueNice neologism! Three languages in one word! I wonder what the record is for the most languages combined into a single word...
I'm this close to pulling the trigger on a BKE-2010 I found, but these damned things are getting expensive.. is immediate gratification worth 3x the cost? :D
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I'm this close to pulling the trigger on a BKE-2010 I found, but these damned things are getting expensive.. is immediate gratification worth 3x the cost? :D
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In the long run, no, probably not. Short run, absolutely. If you decide you don't want it, I would appreciate if you pointed me to where I can buy it... :))
I'm this close to pulling the trigger on a BKE-2010 I found, but these damned things are getting expensive.. is immediate gratification worth 3x the cost? :D
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In the long run, no, probably not. Short run, absolutely. If you decide you don't want it, I would appreciate if you pointed me to where I can buy it... :))
There's one on ebay right now: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-BKE-2010-Editing-Keyboard-Great-Condition-/132311104347?hash=item1ece5b3b5b:g:xGcAAOSwXf9ZpYlj
What do people do after they have harvested the domes from these Sony BKE?
What do people do after they have harvested the domes from these Sony BKE?
Dome swap to HHKBs mostly
What do people do after they have harvested the domes from these Sony BKE?
Dome swap to HHKBs mostly
Yeah, I've seen those and the FC660C the most. Haven't really seen any done on Realforces, but I'm sure they are out there.
Unless menuhin meant what is done with the leftover Sony board - in that case, usually nothing lol.
I paid for a new sample mold for the 55g + BKE domes.
The mold will be produced after Sept 6, and samples delivered at the end of Sept to me.
I have 70 domes of each total, and they get 10 each.
From what I heard from Platabear on reddit, they are separate projects that are both in the prototype phase.Oh great, thanks! Anyone know what weight the bke domes are?
From what I heard from Platabear on reddit, they are separate projects that are both in the prototype phase.Oh great, thanks! Anyone know what weight the bke domes are?
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BKE Dome Samples Produced.
We'll have a pricing update next week when I get them on hand. Then review units sent out to people.Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/2faf2ce74cde935d3b50dfb81d60e72f.png)
BKE Dome Samples Produced.
We'll have a pricing update next week when I get them on hand. Then review units sent out to people.Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/2faf2ce74cde935d3b50dfb81d60e72f.png)
Is there a template for capacitive sensing PCBs and controllers?I'm pretty sure a custom Topre board, if anyone ever figures out how to make one, would always require a full pcb because of the pressure that needs to be applied to the domes. That would also mean that the plate/slider housings would be custom made for the layout you're building.
I'd like to make a custom board based on these bke clones but the sensing mechanism looks like a headache to hand-wire.
Is there a template for capacitive sensing PCBs and controllers?I'm pretty sure a custom Topre board, if anyone ever figures out how to make one, would always require a full pcb because of the pressure that needs to be applied to the domes. That would also mean that the plate/slider housings would be custom made for the layout you're building.
I'd like to make a custom board based on these bke clones but the sensing mechanism looks like a headache to hand-wire.
Maybe this thread is interesting, a custom split HHKB, still in progress: https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/another-custom-split-hand-topre-board-need-your-input-t14769.html?hilit=custom%20topreWell I'll be damned, those guys over at deskthority sure are impressive.
Is there a template for capacitive sensing PCBs and controllers?I'm pretty sure a custom Topre board, if anyone ever figures out how to make one, would always require a full pcb because of the pressure that needs to be applied to the domes. That would also mean that the plate/slider housings would be custom made for the layout you're building.
I'd like to make a custom board based on these bke clones but the sensing mechanism looks like a headache to hand-wire.
Maybe this thread is interesting, a custom split HHKB, still in progress: https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/another-custom-split-hand-topre-board-need-your-input-t14769.html?hilit=custom%20topre
I'm so glad I didn't miss this. Was away from gh for a few months.
Definitely want to get down on some domes. If anyone is able and willing to replace some domes for me, I'd hire you for it. Keep me in mind. ^__^
It's super easy! Youtube will make it a peace of cake!
so excited, what's next?
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OMG, that's amazing! I was just lamenting how it's impossible to make a variable bke board, and you're making it possible. I'm thrilled!so excited, what's next?
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We're working on a lighter BKE dome atm.
It's already dome but it ships out after the autumn festival.
We'll have all of the domes in November so you can get them for yourself.
I think we'll also have a dome sampler pack so you can test them out yourself. Maybe 5 of BKE-light and BKE-heavy
Review units have been sent out to people.
So far - people are really happy with them.
BKE:w
Reviewer 1:
- A Little Heavy but SUPER tactile
Reviewer 2:
- More tactile than BKE but the bump is slightly lower
- Overall: love them.
Reviewer 3:
- Very snappy
- Not heavy
Ok, so the 55g domes are going to be called jcups, I believe we've established.please do not call them that.
What are we going to call the BKE domes? I believe Reddit user platabear was heavily involved in the design, so maybe platadomes?
Ok, so the 55g domes are going to be called jcups, I believe we've established.
What are we going to call the BKE domes? I believe Reddit user platabear was heavily involved in the design, so maybe platadomes?
VAIOmes
Ok, so the 55g domes are going to be called jcups, I believe we've established.
What are we going to call the BKE domes? I believe Reddit user platabear was heavily involved in the design, so maybe platadomes?
why not name them after the person who originated the mod?
This may seem like a weird question, but has anyone ever tried doing a domeswap on a novatouch with bke domes or is that impossible. I got one in recently and was wondering if there way any tinkering I could do other than buying a norbauer case for it.I don’t know if anyone’s done it but it surely should be compatible. The Novatouch has genuine Topre domes and PCBs so I’m pretty sure it’ll work.
This may seem like a weird question, but has anyone ever tried doing a domeswap on a novatouch with bke domes or is that impossible. I got one in recently and was wondering if there way any tinkering I could do other than buying a norbauer case for it.
This may seem like a weird question, but has anyone ever tried doing a domeswap on a novatouch with bke domes or is that impossible. I got one in recently and was wondering if there way any tinkering I could do other than buying a norbauer case for it.
I have a Novatouch, added hypersphere rings and lube to it just like you would with any other topre board. Waiting on my Norbauer case. The domes are of similar design as any of the other topre boards, so there should be no issues doing a dome swap to improve the feel. I'm actually looking forward to this project because of my novatouch more so than my FC660C, since I love the sound and feel of that board so much already. The novatouch needs a little "something" though, and I think the dome swap will do wonders for it.
I have a Novatouch, added hypersphere rings and lube to it just like you would with any other topre board. Waiting on my Norbauer case. The domes are of similar design as any of the other topre boards, so there should be no issues doing a dome swap to improve the feel. I'm actually looking forward to this project because of my novatouch more so than my FC660C, since I love the sound and feel of that board so much already. The novatouch needs a little "something" though, and I think the dome swap will do wonders for it.
I'm in a similar boat. I added Hypersphere rings to my NT almost two years ago, and it totally transformed the board into one I never plan on selling/trading away. If I had one complaint, it's that I wish it were a tad heavier feel when typing on it. Enter these lovely replacement domes :) I'm planning on timing the swapping to my first Norbauer case so that I can do a dome swap at the same time (might as well do a light lube job while I'm at it). Quite stoked :D
Big Update:Wow good prices! ****ing hype!!!
The Light versions came in and they are 100% satisfactory for me.
I've made a payment for everything and the domes arrive for retail before 11/11 (make a wish).
Pricing
Topre Domes Samples (5 light, 5 heavy)- $10
Topre Domes Light - 25 units - $18
Topre Domes Light - 70 units - $50
Topre Domes Light - 110 units - $66
Topre Domes Heavy - 25 units - $18
Topre Domes Heavy - 70 units - $50
Topre Domes Heavy - 110 units - $66
My Personal Review
BKE Light (Will be Light Grey)
- Nice Tactile Bump.
- Closer to OEM BKE
- Around 50G (without spring)
I really like this one. This is the one I'm going to role with (except the spacebar), because of how light I need the switch to be.
BKE Heavy (Will be Black)
- Bigger Tactile Bump, very sharp tactile
- Around 60G (without spring)
- This is probably the most tactile dome you'll ever try, ever.
I like this one for the spacebar, but the dome is a little too heavy for me for regular keys. It will definitely bring fatigue for me. For reference, I use 67g springs normally (linear or tactile). Needs to be silenced. It's loud as heck.
I recommend the light version if you're looking for a good conversion, but if you're looking for a crazy tactile experience, go with the heavies. There is a sample pack that will be available as well so you can try it out.
NGL: the mod is extremely annoying to do.
Awesome!
What is availability like? The tester is only a good idea if there are still domes left to buy after you test them, and I have a feeling these will go quickly.
And the springs add 5-10g? Making the heavies close to 70g, and lights 60g?
Kind of interested, but when would they be shipped considering everything?
Kind of interested, but when would they be shipped considering everything?
We're clearing everything up soon.
We have other things coming in, but the bigger projects (m65a, 1965) are left up to me, where the store (retail like this, and stock we have on hand) is handled by my employee.
Cheers, thanks Xondat. GL on your gb btw.
edit for Clarity: Retail is immediately available and ships in 1-3 business days after purchase. This includes domes, and other sets we have on hand.
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Have you tried either dome in an HHKB?
Dang nice that this is all coming along so well. Would there be an option for me to buy a set of 70 lights and 5 heavys? Would like to try the heavy on the spacebar like you were saying and possibly on some other mods.
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Have you tried either dome in an HHKB?
I only use a HHKB :))
What do the BKE domes feel like? I was told by someone that they just feel like stiff topre domes, and that his old topre board feels similar.
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Have you tried either dome in an HHKB?
I only use a HHKB :))
Ah, ok. How would you say the BKE HHKB feels compared to the metal plate topre boards?
Is there anywhere that sells replacement topre springs? With the upcoming dome swap I want to have a few spare on hand
Big Update:
The Light versions came in and they are 100% satisfactory for me.
I've made a payment for everything and the domes arrive for retail before 11/11 (make a wish).
Pricing
Topre Domes Samples (5 light, 5 heavy)- $10
Topre Domes Light - 25 units - $18
Topre Domes Light - 70 units - $50
Topre Domes Light - 110 units - $66
Topre Domes Heavy - 25 units - $18
Topre Domes Heavy - 70 units - $50
Topre Domes Heavy - 110 units - $66
My Personal Review
BKE Light (Will be Light Grey)
- Nice Tactile Bump.
- Closer to OEM BKE
- Around 50G (without spring)
I really like this one. This is the one I'm going to role with (except the spacebar), because of how light I need the switch to be.
BKE Heavy (Will be Black)
- Bigger Tactile Bump, very sharp tactile
- Around 60G (without spring)
- This is probably the most tactile dome you'll ever try, ever.
I like this one for the spacebar, but the dome is a little too heavy for me for regular keys. It will definitely bring fatigue for me. For reference, I use 67g springs normally (linear or tactile). Needs to be silenced. It's loud as heck.
I recommend the light version if you're looking for a good conversion, but if you're looking for a crazy tactile experience, go with the heavies. There is a sample pack that will be available as well so you can try it out.
NGL: the mod is extremely annoying to do.
Big Update:
The Light versions came in and they are 100% satisfactory for me.
I've made a payment for everything and the domes arrive for retail before 11/11 (make a wish).
Pricing
Topre Domes Samples (5 light, 5 heavy)- $10
Topre Domes Light - 25 units - $18
Topre Domes Light - 70 units - $50
Topre Domes Light - 110 units - $66
Topre Domes Heavy - 25 units - $18
Topre Domes Heavy - 70 units - $50
Topre Domes Heavy - 110 units - $66
My Personal Review
BKE Light (Will be Light Grey)
- Nice Tactile Bump.
- Closer to OEM BKE
- Around 50G (without spring)
I really like this one. This is the one I'm going to role with (except the spacebar), because of how light I need the switch to be.
BKE Heavy (Will be Black)
- Bigger Tactile Bump, very sharp tactile
- Around 60G (without spring)
- This is probably the most tactile dome you'll ever try, ever.
I like this one for the spacebar, but the dome is a little too heavy for me for regular keys. It will definitely bring fatigue for me. For reference, I use 67g springs normally (linear or tactile). Needs to be silenced. It's loud as heck.
I recommend the light version if you're looking for a good conversion, but if you're looking for a crazy tactile experience, go with the heavies. There is a sample pack that will be available as well so you can try it out.
NGL: the mod is extremely annoying to do.
This is awesome! Not that I mind, but just to be clear, are you scrapping the idea of heavier "regular" domes and going with just the BKE variant?
Either way, I'm definitely going to get a set for my Norbatouch. Torn as to whether I should go with all light (which will still be a little heavier than stock), light alphas and heavy mods, all heavy, or all light with just a single heavy for the spacebar like jchan is going to do. And maybe I need to get some for my FC660C...
I have a Novatouch, added hypersphere rings and lube to it just like you would with any other topre board. Waiting on my Norbauer case. The domes are of similar design as any of the other topre boards, so there should be no issues doing a dome swap to improve the feel. I'm actually looking forward to this project because of my novatouch more so than my FC660C, since I love the sound and feel of that board so much already. The novatouch needs a little "something" though, and I think the dome swap will do wonders for it.
I'm in a similar boat. I added Hypersphere rings to my NT almost two years ago, and it totally transformed the board into one I never plan on selling/trading away. If I had one complaint, it's that I wish it were a tad heavier feel when typing on it. Enter these lovely replacement domes :) I'm planning on timing the swapping to my first Norbauer case so that I can do a dome swap at the same time (might as well do a light lube job while I'm at it). Quite stoked :D
I have a Novatouch, added hypersphere rings and lube to it just like you would with any other topre board. Waiting on my Norbauer case. The domes are of similar design as any of the other topre boards, so there should be no issues doing a dome swap to improve the feel. I'm actually looking forward to this project because of my novatouch more so than my FC660C, since I love the sound and feel of that board so much already. The novatouch needs a little "something" though, and I think the dome swap will do wonders for it.
I'm in a similar boat. I added Hypersphere rings to my NT almost two years ago, and it totally transformed the board into one I never plan on selling/trading away. If I had one complaint, it's that I wish it were a tad heavier feel when typing on it. Enter these lovely replacement domes :) I'm planning on timing the swapping to my first Norbauer case so that I can do a dome swap at the same time (might as well do a light lube job while I'm at it). Quite stoked :D
I have an exact same situation with my NovaTouch. It is Hypersphere'd, Norbauer case coming later this year and not yet lubed. I also have a HHKB and I have to say that because of the tactility the HHKB just feels much better than NovaTouch. NT switches feel almost like linear compared to HHKB. Could these domes be answer to make NT feel more like HHKB?
The Novatouch, oh mean - talk about discontinued. It feels like forever ago since I saw that board lol.Awesome! As being from EU I think I will just go straight for the lighter version set. It can get little expensive just to try out samples.
In any case, I hope so. Definitely try out the sample pack if you're looking to try it out, but I'd definitely say it's a likely solution to your linear feels issue.
The tactility on these are bananas :p
The Novatouch, oh mean - talk about discontinued. It feels like forever ago since I saw that board lol.Awesome! As being from EU I think I will just go straight for the lighter version set. It can get little expensive just to try out samples.
In any case, I hope so. Definitely try out the sample pack if you're looking to try it out, but I'd definitely say it's a likely solution to your linear feels issue.
The tactility on these are bananas :p
Can't wait get my hands on these!
This is awesome! Not that I mind, but just to be clear, are you scrapping the idea of heavier "regular" domes and going with just the BKE variant?
Either way, I'm definitely going to get a set for my Norbatouch. Torn as to whether I should go with all light (which will still be a little heavier than stock), light alphas and heavy mods, all heavy, or all light with just a single heavy for the spacebar like jchan is going to do. And maybe I need to get some for my FC660C...
the 55g project is particularly interesting. We're still refining the shape, and the stiffness, but we just can't seem to get the feel correct.
We're still working on it, and we're on our 7th or so engineering sample. Hope it goes somewhere, but it's currently in a limbo state until we get it correct.
This is awesome! Not that I mind, but just to be clear, are you scrapping the idea of heavier "regular" domes and going with just the BKE variant?
Either way, I'm definitely going to get a set for my Norbatouch. Torn as to whether I should go with all light (which will still be a little heavier than stock), light alphas and heavy mods, all heavy, or all light with just a single heavy for the spacebar like jchan is going to do. And maybe I need to get some for my FC660C...
the 55g project is particularly interesting. We're still refining the shape, and the stiffness, but we just can't seem to get the feel correct.
We're still working on it, and we're on our 7th or so engineering sample. Hope it goes somewhere, but it's currently in a limbo state until we get it correct.
The part I don't understand is why are you trying to copy the standard 55g domes? Every review I've seen of the BKE says they are a dramatic improvement over Topre.
Are there people who prefer stock 55g over BKE?
This is awesome! Not that I mind, but just to be clear, are you scrapping the idea of heavier "regular" domes and going with just the BKE variant?
Either way, I'm definitely going to get a set for my Norbatouch. Torn as to whether I should go with all light (which will still be a little heavier than stock), light alphas and heavy mods, all heavy, or all light with just a single heavy for the spacebar like jchan is going to do. And maybe I need to get some for my FC660C...
the 55g project is particularly interesting. We're still refining the shape, and the stiffness, but we just can't seem to get the feel correct.
We're still working on it, and we're on our 7th or so engineering sample. Hope it goes somewhere, but it's currently in a limbo state until we get it correct.
The part I don't understand is why are you trying to copy the standard 55g domes? Every review I've seen of the BKE says they are a dramatic improvement over Topre.
Are there people who prefer stock 55g over BKE?
I prefer stock 55g over bke. Bke are too tactile and feel weird. It's a super sharp feeling bump then a quick collapsing feeling. Stock domes feel smoother and more drawn out. Much more pleasing. I can only imagine how insane the reproduction heavy bke domes are gonna be.
I really don't want to miss out on this. Is there a recommended way to subscribe for updates? Or to get a notification when I can buy?
Thanks so much for all your hard work on this. Plan on getting a bunch of light and heavy, just in case I like one more than the other.
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NGL: the mod is extremely annoying to do.
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NGL: the mod is extremely annoying to do.
Can someone elaborate a bit what exactly is annoying about it? And is it only annoying or also kinda hard to do (for a not so experienced user like me..)?
Anyways, really looking forward to this, I think I will try out both versions.
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But in any case, you won't have anything to miss because we will have a flowing stock of this.
So this mod is a tad cumbersome honestly. I think I'll have to make a good tutorial on how to do it to save people time.
Is there anywhere that sells replacement topre springs? With the upcoming dome swap I want to have a few spare on hand
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NGL: the mod is extremely annoying to do.
Can someone elaborate a bit what exactly is annoying about it? And is it only annoying or also kinda hard to do (for a not so experienced user like me..)?
Anyways, really looking forward to this, I think I will try out both versions.
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they dome we have developed are individual units. So that means, they are each made 1 key.
Typically, the domes are in "sheets", that can be installed or swapped easily.
So this mod is a tad cumbersome honestly. I think I'll have to make a good tutorial on how to do it to save people time.
Hi everyone,
Just a quick-o update on what is happening.
Our production mold is finished. What does that mean? That means, that the mold that will be making all of the domes is complete, and we're going into production sampling to double check the integrity of the mold and compare them with our pre-production samples.
After we verify that is good to go, we will go into production. Currently, we are on track for everything to arrive before 11/10.
****ing yes!!!! This is going to be epic! Been waiting for such things. This will be great for the community as well. Tired of people charging $4 per dome Jchan94 Keep up the good work! looking forward to this
On a side note, I like heavy switches. Currently using some cherrystotles with 85g springs. Do you think I would like the heavy version of this over the light version? I could not stand how light the novatouch felt and how liner they were . I like a bump and I like a tad bit of pressure. As you can tell from the switches in my main board , I like loud switches as well.. What would you guys recommend?
People charge $4/dome because bke units usually sell for over $200 these days.
I don't know what this is supposed to mean... but I agree.People charge $4/dome because bke units usually sell for over $200 these days.Show Image(https://www.healthstatus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/bananas-improve-health.jpg)
Orange Alps peak at 60g, and I feel they're a bit closer to 55g usually than 65g. It'll certainly be interesting, especially with the sharper tactility.
I love my FC980, but the 45g is really light. Coming from Orange Alps (with 50g springs), I'm really looking forward to these.
https://plot.ly/~haata/297
Orange Alps peak at 60g, and I feel they're a bit closer to 55g usually than 65g. It'll certainly be interesting, especially with the sharper tactility.
I love my FC980, but the 45g is really light. Coming from Orange Alps (with 50g springs), I'm really looking forward to these.
https://plot.ly/~haata/297
Jchan, are you able to give feedback on how these domes feel compared to the oeiginal, manufacturer BKE domes?
Sorry if that was already asked and answered.
Just saw this thread for the first time and am delighted to learn of its existence. I'm a dainty-fingered 30g-dome lightweight, and currently I have to resort to buying JIS boards and stealing the domes. I'd love to see that process get easier (and less expensive) by being able to obtain just domes.
Just saw this thread for the first time and am delighted to learn of its existence. I'm a dainty-fingered 30g-dome lightweight, and currently I have to resort to buying JIS boards and stealing the domes. I'd love to see that process get easier (and less expensive) by being able to obtain just domes.
Norbauer if all you want is really lightweight domes you can already get 35g replica domes from ebay (the same 35g domes that comes on the Plum/Royal Kludge Topre domes
Just saw this thread for the first time and am delighted to learn of its existence. I'm a dainty-fingered 30g-dome lightweight, and currently I have to resort to buying JIS boards and stealing the domes. I'd love to see that process get easier (and less expensive) by being able to obtain just domes.
Norbauer if all you want is really lightweight domes you can already get 35g replica domes from ebay (the same 35g domes that comes on the Plum/Royal Kludge Topre domes
As someone who's thrown money at that idea, I can't recommend getting the eBay 35g dome sheets - like the listing says, they're for the plum and other replicas and even if they do fit they're not a replacement for OG domes in terms of quality IMHO. I never mounted my sheet but some others already went through the pain https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84951.0
All the domes have finished manufacturing, and are currently being sorted.
We have over 200lbs worth of rubber domes coming in soon.
This ships out on Monday to us.Awesome!!! I am so stoked.
We'll have them (ETA) end of next week.
I've got some Silence-X rings coming from KBDfans, those are supposed to be just as good as the infamous Hyperspheres, there's a few comparison posts out there.
Super hyped for the domes!
I did some A-B testing not too long ago and I found that there was a difference both in tactility and noise. In terms of tactility Silence-X rings are really close to stock Topre but Hyperspheres lose a noticeable amount. Hyperspheres do silence a tiny bit more though, or at least they change the pitch to a different note compared to Silence-X.I've got some Silence-X rings coming from KBDfans, those are supposed to be just as good as the infamous Hyperspheres, there's a few comparison posts out there.
Super hyped for the domes!
i've recently installed silence-x rings, and yeah they feel pretty identical
thankful someone has eventually provided a viable alternative
Sorry I'm DumbYup in about 2 weeks. It's not a GB, it'll be sold continuously on keyclack.
will these be stocked/for sale on keyclack?
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/719pts/hypersphere_vs_silencex_sound_test_tactility/?st=J9J8R8M0&sh=6aa6cd2a
Ro-59 is rare but it's not amazing. Krytox is a significantly better lubricant when it comes to friction reduction, it's just certain mixes will not stay put long enough to maintain efficiency. For topre boards though, it's very easy to reapply.
Sorry I'm DumbYup in about 2 weeks. It's not a GB, it'll be sold continuously on keyclack.
will these be stocked/for sale on keyclack?
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This is amazing. I'm so excited! Ready to buy a whole bunch of these bad boys!
Gotta start researching the best silencing options for Topre.
Good to know! Thank you! Gonna look into that. Looking into the RO-59 lube too. Apparently it's a pretty rare and amazing lube, but which the GB is making available.
Can't wait for the sale. I have the BKE domes from two PVE-500 installed on my pro2, and I'm really curious about the 'heavy' variant.This is amazing. I'm so excited! Ready to buy a whole bunch of these bad boys!
Gotta start researching the best silencing options for Topre.
If you hate loud clacks, I recommend hyperspheres. BKE domes will make your board twice as loud, even when already silenced.
would be great if you could post a before and after sound test :D
My post doesn’t review BKE redux domes though. Maybe I have to do an update 🤔would be great if you could post a before and after sound test :D
Check out Atredl's reddit post that he linked to above.
Will these be thrown into the classifieds? Or will it be on another site?Pretty sure these will be sold through his store keyclack.com
what time on Friday will these go live?5pm pst on Friday!
The domes can be packed in a envelope so it'll be very cheap for shipping.
Will this be stocked for a limited amount of time? Or is this a stocked item for the foreseeable future?
...and we will have a continuous stock of them available.
The domes can be packed in a envelope so it'll be very cheap for shipping.
The domes can be packed in a envelope so it'll be very cheap for shipping.
Put my order in as I waited up all night for these things... $33 to the UK. C'mon, I sure hope I get a partial refund, feel robbed on these things.
I was so excited to get i to first 10, but $33 for shipping is ridiculous :(
$30 shipping to Canada?!?!Yeah, didn't jchan say it'd be cheap shipping? That'd like eBay bad.
F that. You can ship full keysets for a lot less.
$30 shipping to Canada?!?!Yeah, didn't jchan say it'd be cheap shipping? That'd like eBay bad.
F that. You can ship full keysets for a lot less.
It's possible that the auto calculator for shipping is wrong so I'd wait for jchan's comment :'(100% this. I missed the window on the pins, so I don't mind waiting a few days, if that, to hear back.
Hm, originally I considered using light domes for alphas + arrow keys, and heavy domes for F-keys and the 'Insert'/'Print Screen' blocks. But now that the moment as arrived, I'm concerned that the 15g difference between the two will be a bit much.
I'm curious, for those of you that have placed your orders, what did you decide on?
I could try a sample pack, but I have my doubts that pressing on the domes directly will be representative of what it would be like to type on in practice (that is, unless I open up my NT and cut the existing sheet, close the case back up, etc...).
$40 shipping... I'll sit this one out. :'(Check out the bottom of the product page and try emailing support to get a more favourable international shipping rate.
Check out the bottom of the product page and try emailing support to get a more favourable international shipping rate.
No worries! I sent in an email as well. Let's hope for the best.Check out the bottom of the product page and try emailing support to get a more favourable international shipping rate.
Thanks for the heads up, I completely missed that. I'll give it a shot. :thumb:
We updated shipping quotas for international and such.
Any interest in a 88-pack? That should cover both ANSI and ISO tenkeyless Realforce keyboards.
EDIT: The price difference between 70 and 110 domes is just $16, or 40 cents per dome. So a 88-pack (or perhaps just round up to 90 in case of defects) would be $57.2 ($58 for a 90-pack). Not sure if it's worth the hassle to Keyclack to add the two extra packs though, but just wanted to throw it out there.
Any interest in a 88-pack? That should cover both ANSI and ISO tenkeyless Realforce keyboards.
EDIT: The price difference between 70 and 110 domes is just $16, or 40 cents per dome. So a 88-pack (or perhaps just round up to 90 in case of defects) would be $57.2 ($58 for a 90-pack). Not sure if it's worth the hassle to Keyclack to add the two extra packs though, but just wanted to throw it out there.
Eta on when orders will ship out Jchan?
Eta on when orders will ship out Jchan?
I second that inquiry.
Anyone have tips for storing domes and domesheets that you aren't currently using? I was thinking of storing them in a shallow tupperware but I'm not sure if storing them slightly folded is a good idea.
Lol nothing will overwhelm the tactility of bke domes. Seriously they make the most tactile switch you can imagine.
So I lubed my FC990C, and the board feels a bit less tactile. This seems to be because there is a little bit more force required to push down on the key. (I used Zeal's thick lube.)The BKE domes are extremely tactile. Changing to BKE from regular Topre domes will definitely add a bigger tactile bump with or without lube.
Should the 45g BKE Redux domes help in this regard, or would the impact of the lube still overwhelm the tactility of the domes?
Looking forward to ordering when other buys are cleared up/reviews are out I hope the stock lasts long enough.I emailed Keyclack about their stock and the reply stated that while they don't know the demand it will only be about a month between restocks if they do sell out. Sounds like they will be keeping BKE domes in their store for the foreseeable future.
Lol nothing will overwhelm the tactility of bke domes. Seriously they make the most tactile switch you can imagine.
Interesting. Can you compare to Alps tactiles?
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).
Just a heads up, of something to expect.
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).
Just a heads up, of something to expect.
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).
Just a heads up, of something to expect.
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).
Just a heads up, of something to expect.
Someone gives me an education please: If I already install the BKE domes, what would a custom spring bring to the board? Surely it's not just for a heavier key feel, since that's what the heavier domes are for, right?
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).
Just a heads up, of something to expect.
Someone gives me an education please: If I already install the BKE domes, what would a custom spring bring to the board? Surely it's not just for a heavier key feel, since that's what the heavier domes are for, right?
i've heard that the spring accounts for 5g of the weight of the switch, so yeah i don't think there'd be much difference.
if anything, it would probably be a step towards custom topre boards, or just replacement parts
Just got a shipping notification. Very excited for these.
Hi,
We have now shipped the ones that were ordered before Nov 13 (Monday).
If you were ordered before then, you should have gotten a notification by now :). If not, we'll be packing it tomorrow.
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We have a few issues with some addresses that couldn't generate labels automagically, but this only applies to a few people (less than 5).
Hi,
We have now shipped the ones that were ordered before Nov 13 (Monday).
If you were ordered before then, you should have gotten a notification by now :). If not, we'll be packing it tomorrow.
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We have a few issues with some addresses that couldn't generate labels automagically, but this only applies to a few people (less than 5).
Hhmmm, still nothing yet (Ordered in the first hour). Sure hope I'm not one of those 5.
Hi,
We have now shipped the ones that were ordered before Nov 13 (Monday).
If you were ordered before then, you should have gotten a notification by now :). If not, we'll be packing it tomorrow.
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We have a few issues with some addresses that couldn't generate labels automagically, but this only applies to a few people (less than 5).
Hhmmm, still nothing yet (Ordered in the first hour). Sure hope I'm not one of those 5.
Can you email support@keyclack.com?
That has me curious. Thanks!
Lol nothing will overwhelm the tactility of bke domes. Seriously they make the most tactile switch you can imagine.
Interesting. Can you compare to Alps tactiles?
Alps switches are a smooth steady bump that starts high in the press and extends pretty far into the press. The tactility feels "round". They compare more to regular topre domes, in that the tactility increases and decreases smoothly. Bke domes provide a much sharper tactile point and then they more rapidly collapse (or feel like they do at least). So there's a quick "snap" point to the tactility. Kinda hard to explain
Any theories on if the 60g domes would be impacted by something like the new Norbauer Alu Case?
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Any theories on if the 60g domes would be impacted by something like the new Norbauer Alu Case?
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Currently, I have no idea. But I think I'm going to have to get one of those cases for myself to check it out.
Too bad I don't have a novatouch :( and I don't want the realforce one that badly
We've packed a bunch today, but unfortunately, the day has come to an end.
We're likely to finish packing these Tuesday or Wednesday next week.
!!! Ohhhh bboooyy!! Got my heavy domes installed in HHKB... bajeesus. Whoever compared these to breakin off pieces of a Hershey bar was absolutely spot on. The crisp. The Thock.
Bless.
Any possibility you could do a typing video? All I have seen so far are typing vids using the OG BKE domes.
Any possibility you could do a typing video? All I have seen so far are typing vids using the OG BKE domes.
This pls
Any possibility you could do a typing video? All I have seen so far are typing vids using the OG BKE domes.
This pls
Only mods have the Redux BKE Heavy Domes, alphas are still stock. (Not my board, found on Reddit thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7fhs5c/as_requested_hhkb_with_bke_heavy_domes_sound/))
Only mods have the Redux BKE Heavy Domes, alphas are still stock. (Not my board, found on Reddit thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7fhs5c/as_requested_hhkb_with_bke_heavy_domes_sound/))
Installed heavy domes on Plum87 with Silence-x rings. I'm in love. I suspect I won't be using the set of light domes I purchased.
Swapping did take a bit of time, but it was fun and easy and I had no problems.
Thanks Jchan!
Any chance you could compare Plum87 with BKE vs real Topre boards with BKE? It would be interesting to know if this is sufficient to turn Plum keyboards 'real'.
As a Realforce RGB owner I consider it "realer" than a Type Heaven :P. Realforce has better build quality and the RGB looks and feels great, just have to replace the stock keycaps. I really love the minimal case. It feels different from my Hi-Pro and HHKB but both of those feel different from each other as well. The RGB to me feels like a lighter tactile bump, easier compression, and a smoother bottom out than my other Topre. I will also be putting the BKE redux domes on it so I am interested to see how much it changes the feels.Any chance you could compare Plum87 with BKE vs real Topre boards with BKE? It would be interesting to know if this is sufficient to turn Plum keyboards 'real'.
I'll let you know. I have a Type Heaven I'll be adding the lighter domes to (that one is for work) and a Realforce RGB I'll be adding more heavy domes to. I don't know if people consider the Realforce RGB "real" or not.
I might pick up a 91u for comparison purposes, and to have a full JIS board. If I can find one haha.
Anyone CONUS interested in trading your bag of 110 heavy domes for my bag of 110 light domes? Mine is unopened. I'll cover our shipping costs.
Any theories on if the 60g domes would be impacted by something like the new Norbauer Alu Case?
Are the springs just stock replacements? They look to have a yellowish/copper tint to them?
Are the springs just stock replacements? They look to have a yellowish/copper tint to them?Might just be the lighting. They could have some manner of coating, though.
Typing on an HHKB full of light domes right now. This thing is SNAPPY. I took out the hypersphere silence rings just to try out these things at peak tactility. I will probably put them back in at a later date because the snappiness does get fatiguing after a while. I left one ring on the right alt for comparison and it slightly reduces the harshness. Not sure how you heavy handed folks deal with the heavies.
The sound is also altered on the upstroke especially. The slider hits the top with much more force than before, replacing the trademark thock sound with more of a clack. This will be resolved when I put the hyperspheres back in though. Still sounds better than any Cherry board I've used. Overall these are a nice alternative to stock domes! Thanks for the pin and the smooth process Jchan!
Are the springs just stock replacements? They look to have a yellowish/copper tint to them?
Typing on an HHKB full of light domes right now. This thing is SNAPPY. I took out the hypersphere silence rings just to try out these things at peak tactility. I will probably put them back in at a later date because the snappiness does get fatiguing after a while. I left one ring on the right alt for comparison and it slightly reduces the harshness. Not sure how you heavy handed folks deal with the heavies.
The sound is also altered on the upstroke especially. The slider hits the top with much more force than before, replacing the trademark thock sound with more of a clack. This will be resolved when I put the hyperspheres back in though. Still sounds better than any Cherry board I've used. Overall these are a nice alternative to stock domes! Thanks for the pin and the smooth process Jchan!
I noticed the clack from the typing demo in this thread. That is strange to hear out of a HHKB. Would you say you prefer the new domes or are they just a nice alternative?
For example, I really like Gateron Greens, but there is no way I could type on them all day long. I would consider them to be nice switches, and something I would use occasionally, but not superior to something like a Buckling Spring or Gateron Blacks.
Typing on an HHKB full of light domes right now. This thing is SNAPPY. I took out the hypersphere silence rings just to try out these things at peak tactility. I will probably put them back in at a later date because the snappiness does get fatiguing after a while. I left one ring on the right alt for comparison and it slightly reduces the harshness. Not sure how you heavy handed folks deal with the heavies.
The sound is also altered on the upstroke especially. The slider hits the top with much more force than before, replacing the trademark thock sound with more of a clack. This will be resolved when I put the hyperspheres back in though. Still sounds better than any Cherry board I've used. Overall these are a nice alternative to stock domes! Thanks for the pin and the smooth process Jchan!
I noticed the clack from the typing demo in this thread. That is strange to hear out of a HHKB. Would you say you prefer the new domes or are they just a nice alternative?
For example, I really like Gateron Greens, but there is no way I could type on them all day long. I would consider them to be nice switches, and something I would use occasionally, but not superior to something like a Buckling Spring or Gateron Blacks.
I'm gonna try the domes with no silencing rings for a couple weeks and report back, its too early to say if I prefer them over stock domes. For reference, I'm a web developer and type all day. First impressions though, they definitely make my HHKB feel fun again. I could see people who have always felt Topre was too light really enjoying these, or anyone trying to breathe some new life into an HHKB. It really is like a marriage of Topre and buckling springs.
Are the springs just stock replacements? They look to have a yellowish/copper tint to them?
Yes. They are regular replacement springs. A lot of people have told me that they lost the springs.
The hhkb springs are this color as well. I believe the rf is the same, but I think the NT ones are silver?
Well, color doesn't matter too much honestly.
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A lot of people are recommending silencing rings to make it more quiet on the up stroke. I'm wondering if there's an alternative to this and maybe if there could be something developed that could make it more quiet.
Anyways, open to suggestions!
Thanks for the reviews and feedback.
Are the springs just stock replacements? They look to have a yellowish/copper tint to them?
Yes. They are regular replacement springs. A lot of people have told me that they lost the springs.
The hhkb springs are this color as well. I believe the rf is the same, but I think the NT ones are silver?
Well, color doesn't matter too much honestly.
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A lot of people are recommending silencing rings to make it more quiet on the up stroke. I'm wondering if there's an alternative to this and maybe if there could be something developed that could make it more quiet.
Anyways, open to suggestions!
Thanks for the reviews and feedback.
One project I think would be worthwhile is simply trying to perfect the topre-mx sliders. The currently existing ones work, but they have issues such as wobble and inconsistency from slider to slider (also seem to be too loose for some keycaps). It'd also be nice to see topre-mx spacebar stabilizers made since those were skipped over.
One project I think would be worthwhile is simply trying to perfect the topre-mx sliders. The currently existing ones work, but they have issues such as wobble and inconsistency from slider to slider (also seem to be too loose for some keycaps). It'd also be nice to see topre-mx spacebar stabilizers made since those were skipped over.
I was thinking the exact same thing the other day. The issues you mentioned are the exact reason why I'm still hesitant to buy the JTK/KBDfans sliders. I'm still kind of surprised that we have yet to see any real high quality samples. I wonder if they're hard to manufacture considering that the tolerances would have to be pretty much spot on in order to prevent any wobble etc. and make them on par with the stock Topre sliders.
These are interesting ideas and I'll definitely investigate them.
Just wondering if anyone not get a topre pin in their order? I didn't get one unfortunately :(
Just wondering if anyone not get a topre pin in their order? I didn't get one unfortunately :(
You would've only gotten a pin if you ordered during that weekend (Friday - Sunday).
If you didn't receive one, email support@keyclack.com with your order information.
Well I'm in Canada so there was the whole international shipping thing. I emailed on the 11th for a quote where as the same day, the reddit post you made on r/mechmarket said all BKE orders will receive a pin. I waited till the 13th (Never got a reply back) when I received the email regarding about the USPS first class rate was added into your system which I ordered on the same day. Sooo, some what scratching my head.
Anyways not a big deal. I am hoping you will make a even more lighter version.Just wondering if anyone not get a topre pin in their order? I didn't get one unfortunately :(
You would've only gotten a pin if you ordered during that weekend (Friday - Sunday).
If you didn't receive one, email support@keyclack.com with your order information.
Well I'm in Canada so there was the whole international shipping thing. I emailed on the 11th for a quote where as the same day, the reddit post you made on r/mechmarket said all BKE orders will receive a pin. I waited till the 13th (Never got a reply back) when I received the email regarding about the USPS first class rate was added into your system which I ordered on the same day. Sooo, some what scratching my head.
Anyways not a big deal. I am hoping you will make a even more lighter version.Just wondering if anyone not get a topre pin in their order? I didn't get one unfortunately :(
You would've only gotten a pin if you ordered during that weekend (Friday - Sunday).
If you didn't receive one, email support@keyclack.com with your order information.
We are working on a lighter version (lighter than the current Light), and a "medium" weight, in between the current Light and Heavy, so I believe we'll have a total of 4 weights available.
Super Light - Light - Medium - Heavy
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I've already requested some samples, but I think we'll see them early 2018.
fantastic news, super stoked, thanks jchan!Well I'm in Canada so there was the whole international shipping thing. I emailed on the 11th for a quote where as the same day, the reddit post you made on r/mechmarket said all BKE orders will receive a pin. I waited till the 13th (Never got a reply back) when I received the email regarding about the USPS first class rate was added into your system which I ordered on the same day. Sooo, some what scratching my head.
Anyways not a big deal. I am hoping you will make a even more lighter version.Just wondering if anyone not get a topre pin in their order? I didn't get one unfortunately :(
You would've only gotten a pin if you ordered during that weekend (Friday - Sunday).
If you didn't receive one, email support@keyclack.com with your order information.
We are working on a lighter version (lighter than the current Light), and a "medium" weight, in between the current Light and Heavy, so I believe we'll have a total of 4 weights available.
Super Light - Light - Medium - Heavy
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I've already requested some samples, but I think we'll see them early 2018.
Anyone knows why my Caps-lock LED doesn't light up anymore after a dome swap? I did cut out a corner of the Caps-lock dome for the light to shine through.
Thanks.
I am very interested in super light. Thanks for working on more options! I really love the current 'light' option but a version that's a little lighter would be very nice to have too
We are working on a lighter version (lighter than the current Light), and a "medium" weight, in between the current Light and Heavy, so I believe we'll have a total of 4 weights available.
Super Light - Light - Medium - Heavy
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I've already requested some samples, but I think we'll see them early 2018.
I am very interested in super light. Thanks for working on more options! I really love the current 'light' option but a version that's a little lighter would be very nice to have too
We are working on a lighter version (lighter than the current Light), and a "medium" weight, in between the current Light and Heavy, so I believe we'll have a total of 4 weights available.
Super Light - Light - Medium - Heavy
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I've already requested some samples, but I think we'll see them early 2018.
I am very interested in super light. Thanks for working on more options! I really love the current 'light' option but a version that's a little lighter would be very nice to have too
We are working on a lighter version (lighter than the current Light), and a "medium" weight, in between the current Light and Heavy, so I believe we'll have a total of 4 weights available.
Super Light - Light - Medium - Heavy
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I've already requested some samples, but I think we'll see them early 2018.
How heavy would you say is the current "light" version? Since people say it's heavier than Topre 45g so realistically would you say it's closer to MX Black kind of weight?
Been on all Heavy Domes for over a week now, and since it seems not many people are using them I thought I'd share my experience.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171208/b5c5cd912950f76dc198e271e0dbf840.jpg)
They are WAY too freaking heavy for stock keycaps so I switched back to my Hi-pro caps and while it's still on the heavy side it feels amazing.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171208/95986bbf9142192ebad811a64a126d75.jpg)
I'm definitely a fan! The tactile feel is great - a nice solid tactile bump which goes perfectly with the Hi-pro's. They also add a little extra thock, which sounds great!
All things considered, they are amazing for typing with hi-pro's, but without them I'd be fatigued in a couple minutes. I also wouldn't recommend them for gaming ever, unless you play your game of choice by slamming the keys with your fists... If that is how you play, then these will probably work great for you!
Yes, it was aligned incorrectly and ruined all of my awesome artsy pictures unfortunately. :(Been on all Heavy Domes for over a week now, and since it seems not many people are using them I thought I'd share my experience.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171208/b5c5cd912950f76dc198e271e0dbf840.jpg)
They are WAY too freaking heavy for stock keycaps so I switched back to my Hi-pro caps and while it's still on the heavy side it feels amazing.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171208/95986bbf9142192ebad811a64a126d75.jpg)
I'm definitely a fan! The tactile feel is great - a nice solid tactile bump which goes perfectly with the Hi-pro's. They also add a little extra thock, which sounds great!
All things considered, they are amazing for typing with hi-pro's, but without them I'd be fatigued in a couple minutes. I also wouldn't recommend them for gaming ever, unless you play your game of choice by slamming the keys with your fists... If that is how you play, then these will probably work great for you!
It looks like your spacebar is oriented the wrong way. :) but thanks for the review. Glad you enjoy them
Finally got around to installing my domes (light version), ultimately decided to put them in my HHKB. I had stopped using it a while ago in favor of my Novatouch since the domes seemed to have become mushier/less tactile than my other topre boards (I suppose from overuse? Same thing happened with my 104U at work). But these domes have definitely restored its status as my main board, though now I'm wondering if I should try some of the heavies in it (have one in the spacebar, but can't really extrapolate that to typing on an entire board of them).
Installation was actually a bit faster than I expected, tolerances on these are good and I didn't have any issues getting them all to line up next to each other/with the alignment notches like I thought may happen. Only thing I noticed was that a few of them had a little bit of thin excess material in one of the notches on the sides, but it'd always pull off easily.
Sorry if I missed it in an earlier posting but what are the new weights?Finally got around to installing my domes (light version), ultimately decided to put them in my HHKB. I had stopped using it a while ago in favor of my Novatouch since the domes seemed to have become mushier/less tactile than my other topre boards (I suppose from overuse? Same thing happened with my 104U at work). But these domes have definitely restored its status as my main board, though now I'm wondering if I should try some of the heavies in it (have one in the spacebar, but can't really extrapolate that to typing on an entire board of them).
Installation was actually a bit faster than I expected, tolerances on these are good and I didn't have any issues getting them all to line up next to each other/with the alignment notches like I thought may happen. Only thing I noticed was that a few of them had a little bit of thin excess material in one of the notches on the sides, but it'd always pull off easily.
If you're interested in getting more domes, I'd hold off til our January stock. We have 3 new weights coming in.
Sorry if I missed it in an earlier posting but what are the new weights?Finally got around to installing my domes (light version), ultimately decided to put them in my HHKB. I had stopped using it a while ago in favor of my Novatouch since the domes seemed to have become mushier/less tactile than my other topre boards (I suppose from overuse? Same thing happened with my 104U at work). But these domes have definitely restored its status as my main board, though now I'm wondering if I should try some of the heavies in it (have one in the spacebar, but can't really extrapolate that to typing on an entire board of them).
Installation was actually a bit faster than I expected, tolerances on these are good and I didn't have any issues getting them all to line up next to each other/with the alignment notches like I thought may happen. Only thing I noticed was that a few of them had a little bit of thin excess material in one of the notches on the sides, but it'd always pull off easily.
If you're interested in getting more domes, I'd hold off til our January stock. We have 3 new weights coming in.
Thanks!
Gotcha... thanks :thumb:Sorry if I missed it in an earlier posting but what are the new weights?Finally got around to installing my domes (light version), ultimately decided to put them in my HHKB. I had stopped using it a while ago in favor of my Novatouch since the domes seemed to have become mushier/less tactile than my other topre boards (I suppose from overuse? Same thing happened with my 104U at work). But these domes have definitely restored its status as my main board, though now I'm wondering if I should try some of the heavies in it (have one in the spacebar, but can't really extrapolate that to typing on an entire board of them).
Installation was actually a bit faster than I expected, tolerances on these are good and I didn't have any issues getting them all to line up next to each other/with the alignment notches like I thought may happen. Only thing I noticed was that a few of them had a little bit of thin excess material in one of the notches on the sides, but it'd always pull off easily.
If you're interested in getting more domes, I'd hold off til our January stock. We have 3 new weights coming in.
Thanks!
extra light, medium, and i don't remember what the last one is
i bet 65g or 70g would be popular
just due to the popularity of 78g springs for MX
i bet 65g or 70g would be popular
just due to the popularity of 78g springs for MX
I am usually using either 85cN switches or 72g switches and the heavy topre domes are more fatiguing than those.
Has there been any sort of consensus on what's new King of Topre Hill with these new domes?I think as always it comes down to personal preference. I love the light BKE domes in my HHKB but they feel even better on my Hi-Pro. I've kept the stock domes in my Realforce RGB and they don't feel "worse" just different than the BKE domes, the stock Topre domes now feel very light and smooth where the BKE are absurdly tactile and fun.
Realforce with Heavy? HHKB with light?
Has there been any sort of consensus on what's new King of Topre Hill with these new domes?
Realforce with Heavy? HHKB with light?
Has there been any sort of consensus on what's new King of Topre Hill with these new domes?
Realforce with Heavy? HHKB with light?
Has there been any sort of consensus on what's new King of Topre Hill with these new domes?
Realforce with Heavy? HHKB with light?
55g is still vast preference, but BKE heavy has certainly become a cult favorite
Couldn’t decide if I wanted to mess with my stock 55g RF board so i did what any sane person would do... I bought another 87u and some light domes. Brilliant, right?
Damn, it looks like the ultralight samples are sold out! How did I miss it?? Are you planning on stocking more??
Damn, it looks like the ultralight samples are sold out! How did I miss it?? Are you planning on stocking more??
they haven't come in stock yet
Yeah, I missed out on the Extreme variant. All sold out. :( I hope you guys restock them, I'm dying to test them!
Any news on when the Ultra Lights will go live?
Is the ultra-light & extreme sampler going to be made available later today as well? And if so, how many of each dome will be included?Looks like 5 of each for $7
I wanted to put some of the extreme ones into any modifiers that were 2u or larger, especially since I have an artisan spacebar that's a quite a bit heavier than a standard spacebar.
We are working on a lighter version (lighter than the current Light), and a "medium" weight, in between the current Light and Heavy, so I believe we'll have a total of 4 weights available.
Super Light - Light - Medium - Heavy
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I've already requested some samples, but I think we'll see them early 2018.
How does everything get displaced when you open it? Are you not keeping the top part of the case upside down for some reason?
Thanks for the feedback, guys. I also ordered some ultralights so I swapped them in today. No sticky domes this time. I'm thinking it was related to the extra material on the edge of the domes as you mentioned. I had previously trimmed it on several of the light domes, but the extra rubber was present on about 50% of them, and I didn't get it all.
In contrast, the ultralights have hardly any extra material around the cutouts. Also, since they are much thinner overall, the extra material that IS present doesn't seem to cause fitment issues.
My opinion of the lights vs the ultralights
My topre board is a Realforce 87u 55g uniform. Out of the box, it is nice but a bit stiff right at the top of the keypress. It's something that I easily got used to, but after being on MX boards and returning to it, I would always have a small readjustment period. I usually prefer a 60g - 68g MX switch (Favorites are Gateron black and Zeal 67).
I liked the sharp pop of the light domes, but they were just too fatiguing. I felt like they were making my finger tips numb after just a few paragraphs (not from pressing, but from the tactile vibration). It's a great idea, but not for me.
These ultralights feel better in weight to me. Something like a 62g Zealio but with slightly more tactile bump at the top. If you aren't familiar with that switch, keep in mind that 62g is the bottom out force, overall it is a light switch.
My only experience with a 45g Topre switch was a Novatouch and I sold it so I can't do a direct comparison. However, from what I recall, the ultralights are on par with the 45g uniform boards but with a more tactile experience. Also, quite a bit louder.
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Also on top of it if you hypersphere rings it have higher chance of things screw up because the BKE domes are actually a tiny bit taller than the stock Topre domes, so Topre domes had more room for you to shove things in. BKE domes were kind of exact height as is and shoving more things might compress it too much.
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I got the ultra light!!! Here are some quick facts for those that are on the fence of buying it.
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1. The purple is very pretty haha look at the pictures!!!
2. The middle dome is taller than stock Topre dome and the bottom sheet area is also a tiny bit thicker than Topre sheet.
3. The area where base of spring sits is a tiny bit smaller too, Topre dome have extra groove for the last coil of spring.
4. Topre dome have maybe a 1 mm padded middle and BKE is hollowed out.
5. Yes the weight is close to 45g Topre, although the force curve is different, Topre has a wider smoother bump while BKE has a sharper tactile bump then the force fall off quickly after it collapse. Topre retain the force a bit more after dome collapse.
6. BKE sounds more high pitched while Topre sound deeper.
7. Overall I think because I ordered BKE Ultra Light weight so I find the tactility while is more than 45g Topre but wasn't too drastically different, maybe that's why keyclack were pushing BKE Light as the main weight (though some find it fatiguing).
All things considered, it's a different experience.
I think for me this removes too much of things I loved about Topre (The smooth and deep Topre thock) so this is not for me.
But I can see why some people will love this and I still appreciate keyclack for bring this option into the Topre world. This will open up a lot of future modding opportunities.
Let me know if you guys have any questions.
:)
Really happy with the dampeners. Installed mine last night. Using them with BKE Redux ultra lights. Both Shift keys, Enter, and Delete on my FC660C don't get dampened as well as the other keys, but it's still improved. Overall the keyboard sounds lot nicer and more quiet now. Seems like these dampeners didn't really affect the feel either. Still feels great.
The KBDFans silence-x rings are driving me nuts, they come up through the switch all the damn time and I have to shove them back in with a razor blade. I ordered some keyclack silencing rings and I'm eager to see if they fix this issue. It took so long to install those rings I'm not looking forward to doing it again...
The KBDFans silence-x rings are driving me nuts, they come up through the switch all the damn time and I have to shove them back in with a razor blade. I ordered some keyclack silencing rings and I'm eager to see if they fix this issue. It took so long to install those rings I'm not looking forward to doing it again...
What board are you using them on? I've heard that story of the rings coming up so many times now but haven't been affected by this at all so far…
Hope the keyclack rings fix this for you
So the silencing rings are sold out, or just not available yet?
I haven't had issues the silencers, but adhesive + slightly thicker does sound nice. Then again it's a lot of work to pop out all the sliders and put in new silencing rings. hmm.
Has there been an update on when it's shipping? Been holding off on putting in the BKE Redux domes for my Novatouch, but I'm wondering if I should just use the hyperspheres I already have installed since I'm going to a meetup this Saturday.In my opinion it'd be a better idea to just hold off on taking it until you get everything in the mail. There's always the next meetup after all! ;)