Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 02 July 2020, 13:31:03
Dalsu asked me to make him a blue Cyrillic set, I said ok. It’s that simple. Here it is.
(https://i.imgur.com/UvTYlrS.png)
Red Alphas Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/wKsb0Ve.png)
Purple Alphas Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/Xfa6So7.png)
Add-ons Kit
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713542919977435198/761840568476762132/Cyrillic.579.png)
FULL IMAGE GALLERY HERE (https://imgur.com/a/bZwtQvV)
(https://i.imgur.com/18OvBem.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/CNlmLI7.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/A7TVyvM.png)
This will be made by Infinikey and run by TKC.
Proxies
- Zfrontier https://en.zfrontier.com/ (https://en.zfrontier.com/)
- ProtoTypist https://prototypist.net/ (https://prototypist.net/)
- MAKeyboard https://makeyboard.com/ (https://makeyboard.com/)
- SwitchKeys https://www.switchkeys.com.au/ (https://www.switchkeys.com.au/)
MoQ is 100
We expect this set to ship in March/April 2021.
Artisan Collaborations
- Primecaps
- BadChad
- Alpha Keycaps
Post by: honoka on Thu, 02 July 2020, 13:35:11
But. With norde kit and icon mods
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Post by: oulongwen on Thu, 02 July 2020, 13:42:16
Post by: gnhuy91 on Thu, 02 July 2020, 13:43:12
Post by: nephlock on Thu, 02 July 2020, 13:52:32
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 02 July 2020, 13:53:18
Now, it looks like this is somewhere in the middle in terms of Cyrillic legend goodness/badness. Some of the worst offenders (Д, Л) from Cherry's god-forsaken OG legends have been fixed, but there's still a couple of bad eggs in there (Й, Ю, Ъ, Ч etc.). Since this is dye sub and you have full freedom, I would suggest basing the sublegends on GMK Yuri's Cyrillics kit (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-t0mb3ry-gmk-yuri-custom-keycap-set/cyrllics_kit_20170524101458.jpg) or GMK Perestroika (https://gmk-perestroika.com/img/base-kit.png). The Cyrillic legends in those sets are much more accurate in terms of letter shape and proportions.
If you need any help with this, don't hesitate to reach out on Discord, I'd love to help (anything for Cyrillic) :)
Post by: krzank on Thu, 02 July 2020, 13:58:46
Please add ISO support with R3 Tilde/grave/Ё (and Ё should be placed at the bottom as other cyrillic characters).
Post by: powwu on Thu, 02 July 2020, 14:00:26
Post by: keyberzerker on Thu, 02 July 2020, 14:02:05
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Post by: myflowsocold on Thu, 02 July 2020, 14:08:05
Post by: MK47 on Thu, 02 July 2020, 14:19:46
Post by: vheissu on Thu, 02 July 2020, 14:20:47
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Post by: maoam on Thu, 02 July 2020, 14:25:44
Post by: noodleman on Thu, 02 July 2020, 14:30:56
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:11:06
Seems like you guys took some cyrillics symbols i made for Yuri without asking me... how unfortunate.
Post by: brianjking on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:11:07
Any hope for a stepped R3 Control?
Post by: AuthenticDanger on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:32:12
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:33:13
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kL2qEvn.png)
Seems like you guys took some cyrillics symbols i made for Yuri without asking me... how unfortunate.
Hey! That's the symbol the render artist has on file. Happy to change it if you would like.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:37:25
Wait, are the Cyrillic legends just traced off another set?
Thats a common praxis in chyna because mostly we offer high res renders in interest checks. Check aliexpress for some sets with novelties from all famous sets.
Post by: Kokaloo on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:38:35
what pbt manu will this be?
Post by: Ahngel on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:50:27
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:59:23
Wait, are the Cyrillic legends just traced off another set?
We will be using Infinikeys stock Cyrillic legends for this one!
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:59:43
looks fantastic!
what pbt manu will this be?
Using Infinikey for this :thumb:
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 02 July 2020, 16:07:50
We will be using Infinikeys stock Cyrillic legends for this one!
Umm, which Infinikey stock Cyrillic legends? :P
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 02 July 2020, 16:17:38
We will be using Infinikeys stock Cyrillic legends for this one!
Umm, which Infinikey stock Cyrillic legends? :P
They've provided me an image of them.
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 02 July 2020, 16:24:22
They've provided me an image of them.
Is it the legends in the render? If not, can you share the image, or can you get your render artist to update the render so it matches the legends that the set will use?
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 02 July 2020, 16:41:08
They've provided me an image of them.
Is it the legends in the render? If not, can you share the image, or can you get your render artist to update the render so it matches the legends that the set will use?
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713542919977435198/726142514691702784/Cyrillic_Alpha_Kit_WoB_R3.PNG)
Their render artist is currently away. When they come back or they have a new one, I will be able to have their legends rendered properly!
Post by: AuthenticDanger on Thu, 02 July 2020, 16:59:34
Their render artist is currently away. When they come back or they have a new one, I will be able to have their legends rendered properly!
The classic "this is an IC for a thing but use your imagination because we don't have actual renders or samples yet" :thumb:
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 02 July 2020, 17:04:52
Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713542919977435198/726142514691702784/Cyrillic_Alpha_Kit_WoB_R3.PNG)
Their render artist is currently away. When they come back or they have a new one, I will be able to have their legends rendered properly!
Thanks! Those look more consistent than the current sublegends, since they're all from a single typeface. Looks like they used Arial Cyrillic Rounded Bold (it has quite distinctive К, Ж and Ь shapes). It won't be an exact match for the Cherry / Helvetica Rounded Bold font used on the regular legends, but it comes quite close.
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 02 July 2020, 17:07:43
Thanks! Those look more consistent than the current sublegends, since they're all from a single typeface. Looks like they used Arial Cyrillic Rounded Bold (it has quite distinctive К, Ж and Ь shapes). It won't be an exact match for the Cherry / Helvetica Rounded Bold font used on the regular legends, but it comes quite close.
Your input has actually been super valuable, thanks :)
Post by: Lenux on Fri, 03 July 2020, 15:48:58
Post by: hkiri on Sun, 05 July 2020, 10:08:07
Post by: Ulliam on Sun, 05 July 2020, 14:11:26
Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713542919977435198/726142514691702784/Cyrillic_Alpha_Kit_WoB_R3.PNG)
Their render artist is currently away. When they come back or they have a new one, I will be able to have their legends rendered properly!
Thanks! Those look more consistent than the current sublegends, since they're all from a single typeface. Looks like they used Arial Cyrillic Rounded Bold (it has quite distinctive К, Ж and Ь shapes). It won't be an exact match for the Cherry / Helvetica Rounded Bold font used on the regular legends, but it comes quite close.
unless hes specifically changing them, i'm fairly certain infinikeys standard latin typeface is Arial rounded as well.
Post by: BirgusLatro on Sun, 05 July 2020, 14:20:20
Post by: Wongstongs on Sun, 05 July 2020, 17:40:57
Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713542919977435198/726142514691702784/Cyrillic_Alpha_Kit_WoB_R3.PNG)
Their render artist is currently away. When they come back or they have a new one, I will be able to have their legends rendered properly!
Thanks! Those look more consistent than the current sublegends, since they're all from a single typeface. Looks like they used Arial Cyrillic Rounded Bold (it has quite distinctive К, Ж and Ь shapes). It won't be an exact match for the Cherry / Helvetica Rounded Bold font used on the regular legends, but it comes quite close.
unless hes specifically changing them, i'm fairly certain infinikeys standard latin typeface is Arial rounded as well.
Yes, keeping them to their standard legends. Not going to make any changes to them.
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 06 July 2020, 06:20:07
unless hes specifically changing them, i'm fairly certain infinikeys standard latin typeface is Arial rounded as well.
It's Helvetica Rounded Bold. Check the Q, R and G glyphs.
Post by: roguesystem087 on Mon, 06 July 2020, 13:11:00
Post by: Wongstongs on Tue, 28 July 2020, 21:02:08
The sale date is set! I have confirmed with TKC that the sale will run on October 16-30, 2020.
I have also worked on a few different kits. We will have both red and purple alpha kits available and I think a quite robust add-on/compatibility kit.
Working on pricing and renders for all kits currently.
Post by: CustomerSupport on Wed, 29 July 2020, 00:52:03
Post by: ephemeral25 on Wed, 29 July 2020, 03:43:26
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Is there any other vendors/proxy planned?
Really nice looking :thumb: Classic but timeless
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Wed, 29 July 2020, 09:53:03
However, i'm still getting this. Clean AF! Do you have an date for the GB?
Post by: PotatoTM on Wed, 29 July 2020, 10:46:23
Post by: Wongstongs on Wed, 29 July 2020, 13:11:58
The longer i stay on this forums, the more i add to my list of what to purchase, omg and i quit Audio for this. :))
However, i'm still getting this. Clean AF! Do you have an date for the GB?
Yes, October 16-30 this year :)
Would it be possible to have ISO enter support in the base kit?
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Is there any other vendors/proxy planned?
Really nice looking :thumb: Classic but timeless
Would moving the ISO enter to the base kit be sufficient for ISO users? I have a lot of ISO compatibility in the add-on kit. I'm also trying to keep the base kit price as low as possible. Interested to hear your thoughts!
Currently just vendors for USA and Canada. Will update if others are added.
Post by: CustomerSupport on Thu, 30 July 2020, 02:39:06
The longer i stay on this forums, the more i add to my list of what to purchase, omg and i quit Audio for this. :))
However, i'm still getting this. Clean AF! Do you have an date for the GB?
Quit this hobby now, your wallet will thank you.
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 31 July 2020, 08:17:48
Would moving the ISO enter to the base kit be sufficient for ISO users? I have a lot of ISO compatibility in the add-on kit. I'm also trying to keep the base kit price as low as possible. Interested to hear your thoughts!
You need four keys for basic ISO support in base:
- ISO Enter
- R4 1.25u Shift
- R3 1u alpha key – recommended: \|
- R4 1u alpha key – recommended: <>
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Sat, 01 August 2020, 23:05:42
The longer i stay on this forums, the more i add to my list of what to purchase, omg and i quit Audio for this. :))
However, i'm still getting this. Clean AF! Do you have an date for the GB?
Yes, October 16-30 this year :)
Nice! Looking forward to this. Long but hey, it's better that not getting one. Hopefully, the asia vendor would be accepting Credit Card payments, like IlumKB and ZF.
Post by: udller on Sun, 02 August 2020, 02:43:18
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 02 August 2020, 03:24:09
• A R4 1u 0 numpad key is also missing for the aforementioned layouts.
• The extra `~ and \| keys are unnecessary as this is a two-tone set (mods are the same color as the alphas). For that reason, these two keys can be removed.
• The blue / sublegend on the main 1.5u \|/ key should be moved to the top right, and Ё on the `~ Ё key should be moved to the bottom right. See this reference (https://russianwithtamara.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/keyboard.png) for the Russian layout. If you were referencing other sets that did it differently, those sets were probably wrong.
• The R1 1u \| is missing a blue / sublegend in the top right.
• Please consider adding basic ISO support to the kit, in the form of four keys: ISO Enter, R4 1.25u Shift, R3 \| /, R4 <>.
• Another key worth considering would be a 2u Shift. This key is very popular with Eastern audiences, it's used on 60% layouts with arrows, and it can also be useful as a 2u left space for Alice and similar boards (the kit currently only includes 2.25u and 2.75u).
Post by: Wongstongs on Sun, 02 August 2020, 18:10:39
• This kit is missing a R1 1u Pg Dn key (next to R1 Delete and End) for 1800/CP/96-key support.
• A R4 1u 0 numpad key is also missing for the aforementioned layouts.
• The extra `~ and \| keys are unnecessary as this is a two-tone set (mods are the same color as the alphas). For that reason, these two keys can be removed.
• The blue / sublegend on the main 1.5u \|/ key should be moved to the top right, and Ё on the `~ Ё key should be moved to the bottom right. See this reference (https://russianwithtamara.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/keyboard.png) for the Russian layout. If you were referencing other sets that did it differently, those sets were probably wrong.
• The R1 1u \| is missing a blue / sublegend in the top right.
• Please consider adding basic ISO support to the kit, in the form of four keys: ISO Enter, R4 1.25u Shift, R3 \| /, R4 <>.
• Another key worth considering would be a 2u Shift. This key is very popular with Eastern audiences, it's used on 60% layouts with arrows, and it can also be useful as a 2u left space for Alice and similar boards (the kit currently only includes 2.25u and 2.75u).
For reference, this is where I'm sitting at with the base kit right now https://imgur.com/a/OofLQQc.
I will look at including the ISO support, 1u 0 and 2u shift as well (these are all currently in the add-on kit). I'm just waiting for renders on all of these.
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Sun, 02 August 2020, 23:03:43
Can't wait for this set, look really really good.
Post by: Wongstongs on Tue, 25 August 2020, 13:34:05
Ilumkb or ZF for Asia vendors because they accept credit card payment ^-^
Can't wait for this set, look really really good.
Happy to say that ZF is a proxy :) OP updated with the full list.
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 25 August 2020, 13:45:40
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Wed, 26 August 2020, 10:11:13
I don't see it yet on Keycap Calendar :'(
Post by: TonyTone on Wed, 26 August 2020, 10:15:18
Post by: Wongstongs on Wed, 26 August 2020, 22:57:06
Any updates on the kits?
Renders should be available in the next couple of weeks!
yeah, when is the GB?
I don't see it yet on Keycap Calendar :'(
Oct 16-30
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Thu, 27 August 2020, 10:35:51
yeah, when is the GB?
I don't see it yet on Keycap Calendar :'(
Oct 16-30
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Thanks.
How is the usual turn around time for PBT? Are they like KAT and GMK?
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 27 August 2020, 16:54:30
Renders should be available in the next couple of weeks!Do you have KLEs for the meantime?
How is the usual turn around time for PBT? Are they like KAT and GMK?PBT is the plastic, Infinikey is the manufacturer. Their latest set to be delivered, Græn, started shipping about 3 months after the GB ended.
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 27 August 2020, 17:04:00
(https://i.imgur.com/Szt3IKX.png)
The add-on kit is the standard one seen on most IFK sets. I have added a stepped control in as a few users have asked for that.
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 27 August 2020, 17:58:35
Post by: Wongstongs on Mon, 31 August 2020, 15:15:28
Sweet, looks good ;) And are the base kit mods still the one from the OP, no changes?
Current base kit https://imgur.com/a/OofLQQc and ISO enter, 1u 0 and 2u will be in there as well.
Post by: vheissu on Mon, 31 August 2020, 17:06:28
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 01 September 2020, 04:55:13
Current base kit https://imgur.com/a/OofLQQc and ISO enter, 1u 0 and 2u will be in there as well.
Alright, I still see a couple of issues:
• This kit is missing a R1 1u Pg Dn key (next to R1 Delete and End) for 1800/CP/96-key support.
• The extra `~ key is unnecessary as this is a two-tone set (mods are the same color as the alphas). For that reason, this key can be removed.
• The R1 1u \| is missing a blue / sublegend in the top right.
• Besides ISO Enter, you will also need R4 1.25u Shift, R3 1u \| /, R4 1u <> for correct ISO support.
• Please consider adding R3 1u Pg Up, R4 1u Pg Dn for modern 65%/75% layouts. Most base kits include these keys nowadays.
• By “2u” do you mean 2u Shift?
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 10 September 2020, 11:40:06
Current base kit https://imgur.com/a/OofLQQc and ISO enter, 1u 0 and 2u will be in there as well.
Alright, I still see a couple of issues:
• This kit is missing a R1 1u Pg Dn key (next to R1 Delete and End) for 1800/CP/96-key support.
• The extra `~ key is unnecessary as this is a two-tone set (mods are the same color as the alphas). For that reason, this key can be removed.
• The R1 1u \| is missing a blue / sublegend in the top right.
• Besides ISO Enter, you will also need R4 1.25u Shift, R3 1u \| /, R4 1u <> for correct ISO support.
• Please consider adding R3 1u Pg Up, R4 1u Pg Dn for modern 65%/75% layouts. Most base kits include these keys nowadays.
• By “2u” do you mean 2u Shift?
Yes 2u shift will be in the add-on kit. The rest have been added to the base kit!
Post by: verity on Thu, 10 September 2020, 11:43:07
Post by: nickno on Mon, 14 September 2020, 09:33:01
Post by: Wongstongs on Fri, 18 September 2020, 14:45:58
Post by: Wongstongs on Fri, 25 September 2020, 16:08:38
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 29 September 2020, 05:47:10
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3HCdQpn.png)
Hey, I feel like I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, sorry about that... :) But will the Ё and / positioning issue be fixed for the GB?
This is the correct positioning (also on the R1 1u \| / key):
(https://i.imgur.com/P7GeDud.jpg)
So, bottom-right for Ё, top-right for /.
Post by: Wongstongs on Tue, 29 September 2020, 12:14:17
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3HCdQpn.png)
Hey, I feel like I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, sorry about that... :) But will the Ё and / positioning issue be fixed for the GB?
This is the correct positioning (also on the R1 1u \| / key):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/P7GeDud.jpg)
So, bottom-right for Ё, top-right for /.
I submitted the correct legends, however they are using their standard ones.
Post by: Wongstongs on Wed, 30 September 2020, 17:46:32
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3HCdQpn.png)
Hey, I feel like I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, sorry about that... :) But will the Ё and / positioning issue be fixed for the GB?
This is the correct positioning (also on the R1 1u \| / key):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/P7GeDud.jpg)
So, bottom-right for Ё, top-right for /.
Maybe wishes do come true sometimes! Updated legends in the op and IFK will be making the set the correct way. Thanks for all your feedback :thumb:
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 30 September 2020, 20:27:17
Maybe wishes do come true sometimes! Updated legends in the op and IFK will be making the set the correct way. Thanks for all your feedback :thumb:
Sometimes all that wishes need is it a little push ;) I helped them out a bit with the renders to make sure they would do it correctly. Looking forward to the GB!
Post by: phunktional on Wed, 30 September 2020, 20:39:13
IFK Dark CyrillicIs there a shipping date estimate?
Dalsu asked me to make him a blue Cyrillic set, I said ok. It’s that simple. Here it is.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UvTYlrS.png)
Red Alphas KitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/wKsb0Ve.png)
Purple Alphas KitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/Xfa6So7.png)
FULL IMAGE GALLERY HERE (https://imgur.com/a/bZwtQvV)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/18OvBem.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CNlmLI7.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/A7TVyvM.png)
This will be made by Infinikey and run by TKC.
Proxies
- Zfrontier https://en.zfrontier.com/ (https://en.zfrontier.com/)
- ProtoTypist https://prototypist.net/ (https://prototypist.net/)
- MAKeyboard https://makeyboard.com/ (https://makeyboard.com/)
- SwitchKeys https://www.switchkeys.com.au/ (https://www.switchkeys.com.au/)
MoQ is 100
Any other keys that you want to see? Trying to keep this a simple set with just a base kit. But if there's enough interest for other things, happy to do that.
Post by: Wongstongs on Wed, 30 September 2020, 20:50:15
Is there a shipping date estimate?
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Thanks for the reminder, March-April 2021 is the estimate for shipping. I'll add that to the OP
Post by: cecioclock on Thu, 01 October 2020, 08:12:43
Wondering if the color is really dark grey or black?
Post by: Wongstongs on Sun, 04 October 2020, 17:19:02
Don’t use Cyrillic but high chance I’ll get this set!
Wondering if the color is really dark grey or black?
Black!
I've also added the add-on kits to the OP, just got that render in (yes the extra 2.25 and 2.75u spacebars will come out of it).
Post by: Freeaboo on Sun, 04 October 2020, 22:51:25
Post by: wholypantalones on Mon, 05 October 2020, 08:34:50
Post by: Wongstongs on Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:19:06
Has the Infinikey quality, color matching and legends gotten better lately? I've only seen a handful of past runs and I wasn't too impressed with the quality tbh.
From the looks of the most recent set to ship, WoB, yes, they are getting much better!
Post by: Wongstongs on Sun, 11 October 2020, 20:54:46
GB post up here!