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Title: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:49:17
GSKT-00

The first in the GSKT series. Gasket mounted, 6063 aluminum.

(https://i.imgur.com/aYvMoXl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aB9UDZQ.jpg)

Introduction

Some of you may know me or know about this board, but for those who don't, I'm Weaston and this is the GSKT-00. I originally made this board around a year and half ago and it was a small private group buy for some friends. After all the time that we have spent with the board, it has become a mainstay on many desks. For this I am extremely grateful and proud, that people use a keyboard I made and enjoy it so much that it got to the top of their rotation. Ever since pictures and videos of the 00 began to surface, I have gotten many pms asking about the future of the board. Now that it has had enough time to really be tested and approved, it feels like it's time that I open up a public sale.

Some of you may have heard rumors about why I only wanted to sell them privately or about me not wanting people to share pictures of the internals. Keeping all this quiet was an attempt to just let the board exist without any hype or expectations around it. I wanted the people who had them to get to use it as honestly as they could so I could gather feedback over a long amount of time. So with that, I now feel comfortable selling them here, and I hope you enjoy the 00 just as much as me and my friends have. My personal favorite setup for it is a half plate with 62-67g linears, it really hits a sweet spot with the compression of the gasket, the flex and the sound.

The GSKT-00 comes in Silver, Gray, Black or Red.

Minimum 50 units, 200 unit maximum with 2 cases per person, 4 plates per person and 4 pcbs per person.

All components are priced separately, this is done to better inventory parts per order. Each case comes with 1 gasket and 1 sets of screws. Additional gaskets are $10 each and additional screws are $5 each.

I would like to start the GB as soon as possible. Shooting for January 20th as the opening date.  I don't know the GH process and if I need to get approval for a GB thread or what, so trying to give some buffer time.

More info about GB details will be outlined in the GB thread, but I included final pricing below.

Notes to consider

The 00 had very specific internals which made the usage of larger screws not possible (in it's current design at least) so it uses M2 screws for assembly. They are hex head and stainless steel but please be warned if you have a fear of small screws or cases that use them as you will need to be gentle and careful. The USB port also is fairly tight and has a bit more than the usual depth that other boards have. Most cables will work but those with large heads will not. Personally I know that Mechcables and Yarbo work, and so will anything that doesn't have an oversized head like a Lindy. Any standard "custom" cable with the heatshrinked head should be perfectly fine. I have not tested this thoroughly as I am not a cable connoisseur so I make no guarantees here, but you have been warned.

The 00 also does NOT support 6.25U bottom row, it is 7U only. This was done as preference on my part as I typically use 60% boards in WKL or HHKB layouts and I far prefer 7U spacebars.

Supported layouts below.  MX plates are universal caps lock (all 3 positions), split right shift and split backspace.  Non-splits are still supported by the plate.  ANSI Enter only unless you opt for an ISO plate which is ISO Enter only and split left shift also.  You will have your choice of layout on the GB order form.
More
https://i.gyazo.com/65b59c0965c786424df1242d6e3a1867.png


The original units did not have bumpon cuts on the bottom, but they have been added to these units for ease of use.

Cerakoting is an optional service that can be done as part of the GB. Please be ready to wait at least an additional 3 weeks of time after the initial ship date for this service to be complete and have units ready for shipping. Colors on a board will differ slightly from photos online, so please pick your color carefully. There will be no refunds or free re-coating if you do not like the color.

Pricing

- Case: $225

- Plate: $25 Half - $30 Full

  - Materials: Aluminum (Silver, Gray, Black, Red), Stainless Steel (Brushed), POM (black transparent, expect slight warping), Acrylic (Clear), Polycarbonate (Frosted)

- PCB: $25

- Shipping: $25 CONUS - $45 International

- Cerakote (any non-custom color): $50

Typing Tests and Pictures

Pictures:

Full album of a 00 from the original run (note that it did not have bumpon cuts but new units will): https://imgur.com/a/9lQFCkH

Brendan's Silver WKL with Orange Alps
(https://i.imgur.com/OHDLFyf.jpg)

Chris Swires Gray HHKB
(https://i.redd.it/llbbpcg4lpx11.jpg)

LightningXI's Silver Standard with Cherry SAT - https://imgur.com/a/YuIZroq

ChucklingKumquat's Silver WKL with GMK Royal Alpha - https://imgur.com/gallery/Rb86HZp

inachie's Red HHKB - https://i.redd.it/eaecyq1bddx11.jpg


Typing Tests:

Taeha Types
More

LightningXI
More
https://clips.twitch.tv/DeterminedCourteousOryxPogChamp

LightningXI Flex Test
More
https://clips.twitch.tv/ThirstyStupidAntelopeSaltBae

Invisibiliti
More

Invisibiliti #2
More

Chris Swires
More

Chris Swires #2
More

Eizdeb
More

ChucklingKumquat
More


A final thank you to all the friends who have used this board and those who have expressed interest in it.  You are appreciated.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:49:46
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: PeenixStarr on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:50:51
:thinkySweat:
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: dimo on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:50:54
yes
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: XtReeM1337n355 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:51:00
ULTRA HYPE. I’ve wanted one of these for a while
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: would? on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:51:34
Im going to be gunning HARD for this
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: zian_ on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:52:18
Yep. Absolutely.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:53:11
Will def be in on this. I really enjoyed Chris’ board when I visited him


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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: duckboi on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:53:47
200 units? u wild for this one
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Shenpai on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:54:02
yay
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:54:17
Awesome that you're rerunning this, thanks a lot weaston!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Quriosity on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:56:11
So very interested
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: belgium_waffles on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:56:56
pretty cool i guess
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Remsky on Mon, 06 January 2020, 18:57:35
time to dremel my 00 for bumpon cuts and sharpie it red for the stripped ano!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:01:18
This is probably going to sell out instantly. Hopefully I get one of the 200 units. Impressively low price as well. Good luck with the GB.

Edit: would you consider making the plate file available for modification? I'm one of those weirdos who actually likes 6.25 on 60%.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Furikurichemy on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:02:25
So keen for this!!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: snelltrail on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:03:37
One of the best sounding boards out there for sure. Will be trying my luck!!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Shadohhh on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:04:26
Excited to see this finally reach the public. Glad that I got to support this project.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: zekkin on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:04:35
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/587993126111543307.png)

i buy
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: dantambok on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:12:39
let's go
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Captain Shwah on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:13:40
Cool stuff! I've been keeping an eye on this board so its nice to see a public buy after successful trials.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:15:28
Huh. I told myself I wouldn't get anymore boards but this might change that.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:16:51
Hell yeah.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: dondongler on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:19:11
Ahh yeah, stoked to have the chance to grab one!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: txclack on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:26:26
Amazing board, stellar price, great designer.

Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Slash Emperor on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:31:45
Super stoked for this, thanks for opening this up to a public GB.

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Warrenified on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:36:06
Been on the hunt for one for a while, glad its coming to the public! Thanks weaston :)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Storm- on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:37:35
I'm down, very excited.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:38:12
Very interested 👀
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Remsky on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:40:07
This is probably going to sell out instantly. Hopefully I get one of the 200 units. Impressively low price as well. Good luck with the GB.

Edit: would you consider making the plate file available for modification? I'm one of those weirdos who actually likes 6.25 on 60%.
The pcb doesnt support 6.25U
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: vaughno on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:45:10
:^)


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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: CarterH on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:45:34
Been an honor to support this board since its inception, so glad more people will get to experience it.

Happy to give my thoughts on the 00, I've felt a lot of em.

Here's some old pics of mine: https://imgur.com/a/jNgBYnV
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: XtReeM1337n355 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:47:36
Will this board support usb type c?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:47:48
keen
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: gabbbe on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:50:19
That’s the board I want!


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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Remsky on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:51:44
Will this board support usb type c?
this board is mini usb
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: datfroyodoe on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:54:09
Will there be a library of the cerakote colour options/finishes? Interested to know what's available/applicable for this board.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: PikaJoyce on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:54:54
I’m really hoping to hop in on this!!!! Best of luck to everyone trying to nab one :)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:59:01
Will there be a library of the cerakote colour options/finishes? Interested to know what's available/applicable for this board.

Aw man I thought I put the link in the body, must have missed it.

You can get any H Series coating, that's the standard Cerakote.  Check them all out on the official site: https://www.cerakote.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES

It's cerakote so the feeling and color reflection will definitely be much more matte than ano, but it doesn't affect fitment because it's super thin.  The aluminum I use also takes really well to it, so there should be little to no inconsistencies in it.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: NotBing on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:07:55
Oh baby, give me that g00sket
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: datfroyodoe on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:15:28
Will there be a library of the cerakote colour options/finishes? Interested to know what's available/applicable for this board.

Aw man I thought I put the link in the body, must have missed it.

You can get any H Series coating, that's the standard Cerakote.  Check them all out on the official site: https://www.cerakote.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES

It's cerakote so the feeling and color reflection will definitely be much more matte than ano, but it doesn't affect fitment because it's super thin.  The aluminum I use also takes really well to it, so there should be little to no inconsistencies in it.
Cheers! :)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: heloitsame on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:19:04
Quote
- Case: $225

- Plate: $25 Half - $30 Full

  - Materials: Aluminum (Silver, Gray, Black, Red), Stainless Steel (Brushed), POM (black transparent, expect slight warping), Acrylic (Clear), Polycarbonate (Frosted)

just wanting to clear this up, are the materials referring to just plate options? would also like to see the plate!

super hyped for this though!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: nickaster1 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:21:44
Quote
- Case: $225

- Plate: $25 Half - $30 Full

  - Materials: Aluminum (Silver, Gray, Black, Red), Stainless Steel (Brushed), POM (black transparent, expect slight warping), Acrylic (Clear), Polycarbonate (Frosted)

just wanting to clear this up, are the materials referring to just plate options? would also like to see the plate!

super hyped for this though!
Yes
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:22:07
just wanting to clear this up, are the materials referring to just plate options? would also like to see the plate!

super hyped for this though!

Yeah that's just for plates, cases are only 6063 Aluminum.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: trg1234 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:23:39
hope I snag one
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: haingo1094 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:33:53
Hell yeah , i am down and wait for it for so so so long
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: sirieous on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:38:29
Are spots going to be raffled or is it first come first serve. I feel like with a 200 cap this gb is gonna run out real quickly.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:39:14
sick. GLWB
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:47:06
Hell yeah starting the week with some good ic's!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:48:41
Are spots going to be raffled or is it first come first serve. I feel like with a 200 cap this gb is gonna run out real quickly.

FCFS, raffles are too complicated.  If the 200 fill too quickly I may open it up a bit more, not much though.  We'll have to wait and see  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:50:03
sick. GLWB

Thank you hiney
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: sirieous on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:51:08
Are spots going to be raffled or is it first come first serve. I feel like with a 200 cap this gb is gonna run out real quickly.

FCFS, raffles are too complicated.  If the 200 fill too quickly I may open it up a bit more, not much though.  We'll have to wait and see  :thumb:
Thanks for the quick reply. Hopefully I can get in.

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: eniigma on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:51:28
couldn't exactly tell from OP, is a plate/pcb included in the base kit? or is that separate?

and will plate files be public later on?

also, would be nice if you would release a PCB footprint file in the case that it stops working, since it is nonstandard.

best of luck with the GB man!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:53:33
Nice
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: noahf on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:54:36
300 shipped? in for sure

it wasn't clear but will all 3 versions of the top be available? WK, WKL, HHKB?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: deathwalker113 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:57:05
love it
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Post by: Solotov on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:00:36
Holy moly  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: bthezebra on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:01:27
More open is more cool
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Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:04:08
Btw, all 3 layouts will be available again? Standard, Winkeyless and HHKB?
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Post by: Visionaire on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:04:16
Welp.  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: NoxNoxNox on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:06:00
Oh this is interesting.

Is there a list of what the 'standard color' cerakote options will be? Or is that the 4 colors you mentioned in the posdt?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: xine007 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:08:04
Great group buy run last time  ;D  Easily the smoothest keyboard GB I've been in and it's a super price for an excellent board!

(https://i.imgur.com/JRLA4xI.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:09:33
couldn't exactly tell from OP, is a plate/pcb included in the base kit? or is that separate?

and will plate files be public later on?

also, would be nice if you would release a PCB footprint file in the case that it stops working, since it is nonstandard.

best of luck with the GB man!

All pieces are priced separately. You will order them all at the same time, but I separated the price for more transparency and ease of sorting on my part.  There isn't a pre-made "base kit" for that reason and I don't want to force a default plate choice on someone.

Probably won't release any files, can always offer new runs of components, or make replacements if anything poses a problem as far as pcbs go.

Thanks for the kind words.

300 shipped? in for sure

it wasn't clear but will all 3 versions of the top be available? WK, WKL, HHKB?

Yes all 3 versions are available.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: ramblinrose on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:13:56
Cool to see this one have a public run! What's the front height?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:15:56
Oh this is interesting.

Is there a list of what the 'standard color' cerakote options will be? Or is that the 4 colors you mentioned in the posdt?

No standard options for Cerakote.  Any H-Series Cerakote is fine, take your pick.  The colors listed are anode colors, no flexibility on those unfortunately.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:16:12
I've had a soft spot for these since I saw Lightning's build. I love the fact that you allowed such a long period of time to gather feedback on the board, and the mounting system is really well thought out. The price point is amazing too. Will these be produced by the same factory that made the ones shown in OP?

Good luck with the GB; I hope I have the money to join when it starts.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:22:36
Definitely gonna try to get in on this one.

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: beefwelldone on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:31:11
Yess
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 06 January 2020, 21:52:46
I've had a soft spot for these since I saw Lightning's build. I love the fact that you allowed such a long period of time to gather feedback on the board, and the mounting system is really well thought out. The price point is amazing too. Will these be produced by the same factory that made the ones shown in OP?

Good luck with the GB; I hope I have the money to join when it starts.

Wow thanks man, that means a lot coming from you :thumb:

Yep these will be from the same factory.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: wt1155 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 22:30:57
What is the type of port for the pcb ? Might need some additional info on the pcb and the plate eg: if the pcb or full plate have some flex cuts on it ?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 06 January 2020, 22:39:53
What is the type of port for the pcb ? Might need some additional info on the pcb and the plate eg: if the pcb or full plate have some flex cuts on it ?

Port is Mini B.

Ah I guess i didn't show any pictures of the plates, my bad.  The mx variants are below, alps are more or less the same so not worth showing atm.  In these pictures the full plate has an iso split left shift, but the standard prod units will be the ansi left only like the half plate shows.

They don't have extra flex cuts or relief cuts or whatever you want to call them because the board itself is flexible enough to not need them, and I didn't notice a sound difference when I tested with a plate that had them.  As far as the full plate at least.  I took some extra material out for the half plate spacebar area to get it more pcb-mount-like.

(https://i.gyazo.com/ba818ff84ebdf472f65318bb1da90632.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/4f34289513eecb03e19bd49471fbeeb1.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 06 January 2020, 22:43:23
glad to see this coming to the masses.  Hope I can snag one.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: wt1155 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 22:45:23
What is the type of port for the pcb ? Might need some additional info on the pcb and the plate eg: if the pcb or full plate have some flex cuts on it ?

Port is Mini B.

Ah I guess i didn't show any pictures of the plates, my bad.  The mx variants are below, alps are more or less the same so not worth showing atm.  In these pictures the full plate has an iso split left shift, but the standard prod units will be the ansi left only like the half plate shows.

They don't have extra flex cuts or relief cuts or whatever you want to call them because the board itself is flexible enough to not need them, and I didn't notice a sound difference when I tested with a plate that had them.  As far as the full plate at least.  I took some extra material out for the half plate spacebar area to get it more pcb-mount-like.

Show Image
(https://i.gyazo.com/ba818ff84ebdf472f65318bb1da90632.png)


Show Image
(https://i.gyazo.com/4f34289513eecb03e19bd49471fbeeb1.png)


Nice thank you for replying to me man  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Acereconkeys on Mon, 06 January 2020, 22:56:46
Whew this came out of nowhere. I feel like i'll really regret if i don't join in on this though I wish we had a bit more time to prepare.

Either way, great work, and good luck on the buy! I think you'll need it as 200 is a colossal task!

Quick question, are all of the plate options full? or any of them half?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: noorejji on Tue, 07 January 2020, 00:05:47
Any recommendations on plate material and wether to use half or full for this case? I'm mostly interested in a deep and muted sound. I've never tried half-plate or PC/POM/acrylic, so I don't know how I'll like the flex. I plan to use tactile switches.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: renzpwns on Tue, 07 January 2020, 00:06:08
Damn nice to see this happen. Been wanting one since trying them at the NorCal meet a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: MMKB on Tue, 07 January 2020, 00:06:52
Thumbs up for the cerakote option. (A ready-to-paint version works too.) Imo the color and finish of cerakote matches ABS keycaps better than anodization.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: MMKB on Tue, 07 January 2020, 00:10:33
Polycarbonate this round please?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: NotBing on Tue, 07 January 2020, 00:17:04
Any recommendations on plate material and wether to use half or full for this case? I'm mostly interested in a deep and muted sound. I've never tried half-plate or PC/POM/acrylic, so I don't know how I'll like the flex. I plan to use tactile switches.

From my personal experience, I find that half plate mount provides for a more softer bottom out with a softer sound. I think that it's somewhat dependent on the material of the half plate that you're using as well. With an aluminum half plate, it might still be firm, but with the aforementioned softer bottom out and some flex. Granted, I haven't tried a GSKT-00 yet, so please take this with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: temp0321 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 00:36:42
What color is the pcb? I think Taeha has red pcb but couldn't find in the thread
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: vegs on Tue, 07 January 2020, 00:41:33
So glad you are doing ISO!
I'm in for one if I manage to get a spot.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: vegs on Tue, 07 January 2020, 00:48:54
Whew this came out of nowhere. I feel like i'll really regret if i don't join in on this though I wish we had a bit more time to prepare.

Either way, great work, and good luck on the buy! I think you'll need it as 200 is a colossal task!

Quick question, are all of the plate options full? or any of them half?
From OP:
Quote
- Plate: $25 Half - $30 Full
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: wd9001 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 01:21:52
Been dreaming of this for so long! Question about Alps at101 caps support, Brendan's build seems to show that it is being supported though it isn't shown in the supported layouts. Can you confirm that they are?  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: nguyenhimself on Tue, 07 January 2020, 01:23:36
Hi, do you have any future plan to do a 65% version of this board?
I'm quite happy with my decision to stick with arrow keys, but I'm still very intrigued by the design and reputation of the GSKT.
Thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 07 January 2020, 01:30:07
Whew this came out of nowhere. I feel like i'll really regret if i don't join in on this though I wish we had a bit more time to prepare.

Either way, great work, and good luck on the buy! I think you'll need it as 200 is a colossal task!

Quick question, are all of the plate options full? or any of them half?
From OP:
Quote
- Plate: $25 Half - $30 Full

Thank you for the info! Reading is hard  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: iJeeSung on Tue, 07 January 2020, 01:43:29
The idea that I’d have to prepare a separate Micro B Cable for this board feels bad. But for $300 It’s hard to pass up on.


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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 07 January 2020, 01:43:37

FCFS, raffles are too complicated.  If the 200 fill too quickly I may open it up a bit more, not much though.  We'll have to wait and see  :thumb:

It might last a full minute!

Neat to see it out in the wild. Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Lormania on Tue, 07 January 2020, 01:48:35
Heck yeah. Hope I am fast enough
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: nickaster1 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 01:49:56
Hi, do you have any future plan to do a 65% version of this board?
I'm quite happy with my decision to stick with arrow keys, but I'm still very intrigued by the design and reputation of the GSKT.
Thanks.

Yes please? I can’t live without arrows
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: zekth on Tue, 07 January 2020, 02:00:42
In
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Vireca on Tue, 07 January 2020, 02:29:20
The price is 225 for kit or 225+plate+PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: vegs on Tue, 07 January 2020, 02:57:51
The price is 225 for kit or 225+plate+PCB?
Please read OP :p

Case is $225, plate $25-30, PCB $25.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 07 January 2020, 03:24:17
The price is 225 for kit or 225+plate+PCB?

I gotta ask... If you're interested in a product you'd like to purchase, why can't you read OP thoroughly? Writing a question like that takes about the same time as a quick scroll over OP (Pricing section is even highlighted!) or using "find" function and write "pricing", then just hit "Enter". Dude...

Sorry but I still can't fathom why people can't read simple things they're genuinely interested in.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 07 January 2020, 03:26:42
Will there be HHKB/WKL-specific plates so that the extra holes do not show through on PC cases? 
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: MyManMart on Tue, 07 January 2020, 03:44:18
Will there be HHKB/WKL-specific plates so that the extra holes do not show through on PC cases?

Reread the post. There will only be aluminum cases.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: TexMech on Tue, 07 January 2020, 03:52:23
Hhkb time!

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Legoo on Tue, 07 January 2020, 04:04:34
Very interested, and thanks for proposing an ISO plate option :)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 07 January 2020, 05:08:44
Hmm. Never tried a half plate build. Not sure if I'd even like it lol. Wish I had one readily available to try out, but I'll probably just go full plate for not knowing any better, unless someone with more experience can convince me otherwise. Haha

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 07 January 2020, 05:15:25
Hmm. Never tried a half plate build. Not sure if I'd even like it lol. Wish I had one readily available to try out, but I'll probably just go full plate for not knowing any better, unless someone with more experience can convince me otherwise. Haha

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Could always get one of each, but I’d recommend everyone try at least one half plate and this is a great one.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: futurecrime on Tue, 07 January 2020, 05:55:16
This is wonderful news. I’ve heard nothing but great things about the initial run and I never thought I’d get a chance to own one. Gonna be typing my hardest for that fcfs glory.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 07 January 2020, 05:55:38


Hmm. Never tried a half plate build. Not sure if I'd even like it lol. Wish I had one readily available to try out, but I'll probably just go full plate for not knowing any better, unless someone with more experience can convince me otherwise. Haha

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Could always get one of each, but I’d recommend everyone try at least one half plate and this is a great one.

Both may be the way to go. Haha. Guess I first have to be lucky enough to snag a case anyway.

Speaking of which, will this be mill-max compatible for hotswapping? Does hotswap work with a half plate? It's a beautiful case, I'd love to make it as endgame as possible. Lol

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Tue, 07 January 2020, 06:32:42
Been dreaming of this for so long! Question about Alps at101 caps support, Brendan's build seems to show that it is being supported though it isn't shown in the supported layouts. Can you confirm that they are?  ;D

The layout support picture shows 7U bottom row with universal caps lock and standard ansi mods.  So yes it is supported.

What color is the pcb? I think Taeha has red pcb but couldn't find in the thread

They'll be either green or red, I might even be able to offer choice of color.

Both may be the way to go. Haha. Guess I first have to be lucky enough to snag a case anyway.

Speaking of which, will this be mill-max compatible for hotswapping? Does hotswap work with a half plate? It's a beautiful case, I'd love to make it as endgame as possible. Lol

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Uhh I don't think so?  I have no expertise in mill-max or any hotswap for that matter.  I know we use the combo mx/alps switch footprint, so i imagine that would be difficult to solder the sockets into and I don't think we made the holes larger than usual or anything.  We also need the connection to be tight (and preferably soldered) or else the gasket could pull the switches up, so hotswap is kind of a no-go for this unfortunately.

Will there be HHKB/WKL-specific plates so that the extra holes do not show through on PC cases? 

Nope, any blockers would cover them anyway so having a separate plate for the cases is kind of unnecessary.  This buy is only offering 6063 Aluminum cases.  Any PC options outlined in the OP are for plates only.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: eniigma on Tue, 07 January 2020, 06:38:07
lead time?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: temp0321 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 06:48:21
Please have red pcb option, I fell in love with red pcb peaking through the half plate
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:02:22

Both may be the way to go. Haha. Guess I first have to be lucky enough to snag a case anyway.

Speaking of which, will this be mill-max compatible for hotswapping? Does hotswap work with a half plate? It's a beautiful case, I'd love to make it as endgame as possible. Lol

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Uhh I don't think so?  I have no expertise in mill-max or any hotswap for that matter.  I know we use the combo mx/alps switch footprint, so i imagine that would be difficult to solder the sockets into and I don't think we made the holes larger than usual or anything.  We also need the connection to be tight (and preferably soldered) or else the gasket could pull the switches up, so hotswap is kind of a no-go for this unfortunately.

Wow. A really good point. Didn't even think about it. Guess it'll have to be full endgame then. Haha.

I am dreaming of my perfect build now. Red aluminum. Red pcb. Some smooth linears. Silver case. Some classic caps. Man I hope I get in!

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Vireca on Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:32:09
The price is 225 for kit or 225+plate+PCB?

I gotta ask... If you're interested in a product you'd like to purchase, why can't you read OP thoroughly? Writing a question like that takes about the same time as a quick scroll over OP (Pricing section is even highlighted!) or using "find" function and write "pricing", then just hit "Enter". Dude...

Sorry but I still can't fathom why people can't read simple things they're genuinely interested in.

Because I read 3 times and still I dont know if "case" means only a raw chunk of aluminum or the whole kit. Because the pcb and plate prices can be for extras too. You people have to understand other peorple can have questions and thats why there are ICs for this things and before I want to spend 300 bucks in a board i prefer to make things clear. Ah, also we are not all born in USA or UK, there are other countries and people with more or less knowledge of english

So before you rant about **** you can ask my quesiton quick and easy, or just stfu
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: TexMech on Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:44:07
The price is 225 for kit or 225+plate+PCB?

I gotta ask... If you're interested in a product you'd like to purchase, why can't you read OP thoroughly? Writing a question like that takes about the same time as a quick scroll over OP (Pricing section is even highlighted!) or using "find" function and write "pricing", then just hit "Enter". Dude...

Sorry but I still can't fathom why people can't read simple things they're genuinely interested in.



Because I read 3 times and still I dont know if "case" means only a raw chunk of aluminum or the whole kit. Because the pcb and plate prices can be for extras too. You people have to understand other peorple can have questions and thats why there are ICs for this things and before I want to spend 300 bucks in a board i prefer to make things clear. Ah, also we are not all born in USA or UK, there are other countries and people with more or less knowledge of english

So before you rant about **** you can ask my quesiton quick and easy, or just stfu

All components are priced separately, this is done to better inventory parts per order. Each case comes with 1 gasket and 1 sets of screws. Additional gaskets are $10 each and additional screws are $5 each.

Pricing

- Case: $225

- Plate: $25 Half - $30 Full

  - Materials: Aluminum (Silver, Gray, Black, Red), Stainless Steel (Brushed), POM (black transparent, expect slight warping), Acrylic (Clear), Polycarbonate (Frosted)

- PCB: $25

- Shipping: $25 CONUS - $45 International

- Cerakote (any non-custom color): $50
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Degree on Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:55:44
Very excited for this as I've always wanted one. Thinking of getting a full and a halfplate since I've never tried a half-plate.
Any suggestions on what material for each would be good? I've only had experience with brass, maybe aluminum fullplate and either polycarb/pom halfplate? What do you suggest weaston :)


Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:03:40
I might get one just to compare it to the Polaris and keep the one I like more.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:04:27
Very excited for this as I've always wanted one. Thinking of getting a full and a halfplate since I've never tried a half-plate.
Any suggestions on what material for each would be good? I've only had experience with brass, maybe aluminum fullplate and either polycarb/pom halfplate? What do you suggest weaston :)

Also for the cerakoting, sorry if I missed this somewhere, but will orders with cerakote be shipping later than stock or it will it be simultaneously done.

Quote
Cerakoting is an optional service that can be done as part of the GB. Please be ready to wait at least an additional 3 weeks of time after the initial ship date for this service to be complete and have units ready for shipping. Colors on a board will differ slightly from photos online, so please pick your color carefully. There will be no refunds or free re-coating if you do not like the color.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:11:48
Does anyone have a link to any good information on WKL vs HKKB vs ANSI. So far I've really only used ANSI layouts, but have always wanted to use a build of one of the others. I like the look of WKL, but feel like it still makes the CTL key a stretch (though I might reprogram that to caps lock anyway).
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: _PixelNinja on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:14:20
Been wanting one of these ever since I've seen one. Definitely in!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Degree on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:35:34
Very excited for this as I've always wanted one. Thinking of getting a full and a halfplate since I've never tried a half-plate.
Any suggestions on what material for each would be good? I've only had experience with brass, maybe aluminum fullplate and either polycarb/pom halfplate? What do you suggest weaston :)

Also for the cerakoting, sorry if I missed this somewhere, but will orders with cerakote be shipping later than stock or it will it be simultaneously done.

Quote
Cerakoting is an optional service that can be done as part of the GB. Please be ready to wait at least an additional 3 weeks of time after the initial ship date for this service to be complete and have units ready for shipping. Colors on a board will differ slightly from photos online, so please pick your color carefully. There will be no refunds or free re-coating if you do not like the color.

Yea I just saw that, didn't have my morning coffee yet. Thanks :)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zurg Eon on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:37:28
Nice! Typing angle?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: MatthewPham on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:38:03
Does anyone have a link to any good information on WKL vs HKKB vs ANSI. So far I've really only used ANSI layouts, but have always wanted to use a build of one of the others. I like the look of WKL, but feel like it still makes the CTL key a stretch (though I might reprogram that to caps lock anyway).

I mean ansi isn't mutually exclusive with wkl and hhkb but I'm not dim enough to not understand what you meant


layouts a layout, no one can really tell you what youll like other than you
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:42:06
Does anyone have a link to any good information on WKL vs HKKB vs ANSI. So far I've really only used ANSI layouts, but have always wanted to use a build of one of the others. I like the look of WKL, but feel like it still makes the CTL key a stretch (though I might reprogram that to caps lock anyway).

I mean ansi isn't mutually exclusive with wkl and hhkb but I'm not dim enough to not understand what you meant


layouts a layout, no one can really tell you what youll like other than you

Yeah, wasn't really looking for a definitive answers, just peoples general opinions. Or pros/cons. I do occasionally use the cmd/windows key, so I'm trying to decide if i can live without it. And would be curious if anyone feels the closer grouped HHKB bottom row is easier on the reach, then the spread WKL. Was just curious.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:43:34
Cool to see this one have a public run! What's the front height?

Just barely over 20, like 20.24 or something, don't remember off top.  Needed the space for the gasketing.

Nice! Typing angle?

It's either 5 or a touch over 5.  We'll just call it 5.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: MatthewPham on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:44:11
Does anyone have a link to any good information on WKL vs HKKB vs ANSI. So far I've really only used ANSI layouts, but have always wanted to use a build of one of the others. I like the look of WKL, but feel like it still makes the CTL key a stretch (though I might reprogram that to caps lock anyway).

I mean ansi isn't mutually exclusive with wkl and hhkb but I'm not dim enough to not understand what you meant


layouts a layout, no one can really tell you what youll like other than you

Yeah, wasn't really looking for a definitive answers, just peoples general opinions. Or pros/cons. I do occasionally use the cmd/windows key, so I'm trying to decide if i can live without it. And would be curious if anyone feels the closer grouped HHKB bottom row is easier on the reach, then the spread WKL. Was just curious.

if you don't need right alt then you can rebind it to super, but if your language needs right alt you could always rebind it to something else.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:44:43
Count me in for one! I love the look of the WKL models & think this case would make a perfect home for my batch of SKCM browns & SGI Granite caps!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:48:31
Does anyone have a link to any good information on WKL vs HKKB vs ANSI. So far I've really only used ANSI layouts, but have always wanted to use a build of one of the others. I like the look of WKL, but feel like it still makes the CTL key a stretch (though I might reprogram that to caps lock anyway).

WKL and HHKB dictates the bottom row of the keyboard. So both of these can technically be ANSI Layout.

The two main category are ISO and ANSI. Refer to pics below;

ISO: https://imgur.com/syu4pxS
ANSI: https://imgur.com/J7HK9hk

Then the sub-categories are WKL, WK and HHKB: https://i.imgur.com/J5RbnrI.jpg

And yes, GSKT will support both version.
Refer to this picture for plate options available for the board: https://imgur.com/EOKJgPK

So your options are:
ISO with WKL
ISO with HHKB
ISO with WK (means winkey, no blockers on the bottom row)

ANSI with WKL
ANSI with HHKB
ANSI with WK (means winkey, no blockers on the bottom row)

6 options, none is better than the other. All is preference.

You can still do WKL with swapped CapsLock and LeftCtrl. Personally I find it better. Easier to reach.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: cdhoffmann on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:49:06
Omg....so stoked for this!


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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:50:55
Does anyone have a link to any good information on WKL vs HKKB vs ANSI. So far I've really only used ANSI layouts, but have always wanted to use a build of one of the others. I like the look of WKL, but feel like it still makes the CTL key a stretch (though I might reprogram that to caps lock anyway).

I mean ansi isn't mutually exclusive with wkl and hhkb but I'm not dim enough to not understand what you meant


layouts a layout, no one can really tell you what youll like other than you

Yeah, wasn't really looking for a definitive answers, just peoples general opinions. Or pros/cons. I do occasionally use the cmd/windows key, so I'm trying to decide if i can live without it. And would be curious if anyone feels the closer grouped HHKB bottom row is easier on the reach, then the spread WKL. Was just curious.

if you don't need right alt then you can rebind it to super, but if your language needs right alt you could always rebind it to something else.

WKL is not spread more than a normal bottom row. I'd argue that WKL is spread less because your ctrl key gains in width, allowing the center of the key to be closer. I've used HHKB and reaching for the 1u key is more troublesome with my resting position on the keyboard. I personally will go for WKL with blockers since I have ctrl on caps lock. Bottom row will be Win, Alt, Space, Right Alt, **** all.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:58:02
Does anyone have a link to any good information on WKL vs HKKB vs ANSI. So far I've really only used ANSI layouts, but have always wanted to use a build of one of the others. I like the look of WKL, but feel like it still makes the CTL key a stretch (though I might reprogram that to caps lock anyway).

WKL and HHKB dictates the bottom row of the keyboard. So both of these can technically be ANSI Layout.

The two main category are ISO and ANSI. Refer to pics below;

ISO: https://imgur.com/syu4pxS
ANSI: https://imgur.com/J7HK9hk

Then the sub-categories are WKL, WK and HHKB: https://i.imgur.com/J5RbnrI.jpg

And yes, GSKT will support both version.
Refer to this picture for plate options available for the board: https://imgur.com/EOKJgPK

So your options are:
ISO with WKL
ISO with HHKB
ISO with WK (means winkey, no blockers on the bottom row)

ANSI with WKL
ANSI with HHKB
ANSI with WK (means winkey, no blockers on the bottom row)

6 options, none is better than the other. All is preference.

You can still do WKL with swapped CapsLock and LeftCtrl. Personally I find it better. Easier to reach.

Thank you for the clarification! I have clearly rarely strayed from the noob path, haha.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 07 January 2020, 09:00:47
WKL is not spread more than a normal bottom row. I'd argue that WKL is spread less because your ctrl key gains in width, allowing the center of the key to be closer. I've used HHKB and reaching for the 1u key is more troublesome with my resting position on the keyboard. I personally will go for WKL with blockers since I have ctrl on caps lock. Bottom row will be Win, Alt, Space, Right Alt, **** all.

Damn, I like the sound of that setup. That may have to be what I go with.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: caronte0 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 09:05:07
I'm really interested although i know is going to be hard to get one.
For building it alps i guess that the plate will have to be custom (laser cut), right?. Also just to be sure, is any 60% alps board (with the connector mini usb or usb c) compatible?
Sorry if i'm making obvious questions i'm pretty much new to the hobbie.
The case looks stunning, congrats :)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Woahder on Tue, 07 January 2020, 09:13:31
In for this. Hope I could get one  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Tue, 07 January 2020, 09:18:01
I'm really interested although i know is going to be hard to get one.
For building it alps i guess that the plate will have to be custom (laser cut), right?. Also just to be sure, is any 60% alps board (with the connector mini usb or usb c) compatible?
Sorry if i'm making obvious questions i'm pretty much new to the hobbie.
The case looks stunning, congrats :)

All the plates and pcbs are custom for this board, you can't use a build from another.  Some plates are lasered some are milled, depends on the material.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 07 January 2020, 09:18:34
Definitely going to try and get my hands on at least a WKL one. Very exciting to see another round start. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: chriszhu on Tue, 07 January 2020, 09:55:28
Very nice, GL!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 07 January 2020, 10:30:06
Sorry but I still can't fathom why people can't read simple things they're genuinely interested in.

I'll never understand either. I guess it might be language barrier in some cases, but surely not all - people are weird, they probably just don't like reading.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: hq on Tue, 07 January 2020, 11:27:30
any chance you might make a 65% version in the near immediate future?  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 07 January 2020, 11:57:11
any chance you might make a 65% version in the near immediate future?  :thumb:

Weaston hasn't even started the 60% GB yet.

Your chances of being a 65% soon would be slim I would guess.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: yui_ on Tue, 07 January 2020, 12:47:34
i need this.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Ryanticz on Tue, 07 January 2020, 13:31:09
Absolutely in for atleast one of these. Been eyeing it forever. A black and a white cerakote one would be awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: skrunk on Tue, 07 January 2020, 13:33:43
Wow, super excited for this GB! Never thought the board would have a public GB!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Ld1993 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 14:12:32
Holy shmokes
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: _PixelNinja on Tue, 07 January 2020, 14:41:37
Weaston,

Is there any chance of you considering USB-C instead of Mini-B for the PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: noorejji on Tue, 07 January 2020, 15:25:59
Any recommendations on plate material and wether to use half or full for this case? I'm mostly interested in a deep and muted sound. I've never tried half-plate or PC/POM/acrylic, so I don't know how I'll like the flex. I plan to use tactile switches.
From my personal experience, I find that half plate mount provides for a more softer bottom out with a softer sound. I think that it's somewhat dependent on the material of the half plate that you're using as well. With an aluminum half plate, it might still be firm, but with the aforementioned softer bottom out and some flex. Granted, I haven't tried a GSKT-00 yet, so please take this with a grain of salt.
Thanks for the reply, appreciated.

Sorry if this is off topic but is there any consensus on the longevity of PC, POM and acrylic - compared to aluminum and stainless steel? Also does it make sense to use a stainless steel half-plate? Most people seem to go with aluminum or some sort of plastic.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: fatboycarney on Tue, 07 January 2020, 15:26:18
In for a Copper Suede cerakote If I can get a board, was looking for a 60 percent for work and looks like I found it!!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: clasicks on Tue, 07 January 2020, 15:28:12
honestly puddsy ligma
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: zekth on Tue, 07 January 2020, 15:47:23
Weaston,

Is there any chance of you considering USB-C instead of Mini-B for the PCB?

+1 would be great!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Tue, 07 January 2020, 15:55:58
Weaston,

Is there any chance of you considering USB-C instead of Mini-B for the PCB?


+1 would be great!

Sorry, it'll stay as Mini B.  We aren't using any features that USB C would be helpful for.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 07 January 2020, 16:00:47
Yeah. I feel like usb-c is more desired for convenience then anything else. I'm fine with either.

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: zekth on Tue, 07 January 2020, 16:08:58
It's only because usb-c is more common nowadays not because there is new needed features
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: _PixelNinja on Tue, 07 January 2020, 16:19:05
It's not necessarily about features, but the fact that the Mini standard has been deprecated since 2007 at this point and the industry is moving forward with USB-C. Furthermore, outside of custom cables, good Mini cables have become hard to find in certain places; something that will not be getting any better... It's a bit of a shame to go with Mini in 2020 in my opinion if I'm being honest.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Puree on Tue, 07 January 2020, 16:24:11
usb whatever, i am in for one !

It is nice to see this in a public gb  :thumb:

Thanks
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 07 January 2020, 17:03:49
Bit sad about not being able to use my Lindy cable. Fit everything so far for the past 6 years! I guess I gotta find another solution now that I am getting some USB-C keyboards in anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: MkLovin on Tue, 07 January 2020, 17:04:47
When I finished my build and started typing on the board, I had an erection lasting longer than 4 hours.  Doctors hate this keyboard.  You'll love it though.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: ArchDill on Tue, 07 January 2020, 17:06:50
FINALLY. Pretty excited for this.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Tue, 07 January 2020, 17:32:48
I realized I hadn't shared any examples of Cerakote finish or talked about it much so here is a bit of an update on that front.

Cerakote feels much more matte and "textured" than anodization, for those unfamiliar with it.  The feeling and finish will actually change based on the color and the lighter you go typically the smoother and more watery it can feel.  White tends to be almost glossy and black is oppressively matte, that's the best explanation I can give there.

I am not necessarily recommending you cerakote, but just wanted to give some options to you all.  While the cerakote that my guy does is very very good, I still personally prefer the feel and shine of ano.  Some people like the color range that cerakote offers and the extra protection.  It is all preference.

Here is an album of a 00 that had the bottom coated in a custom made color (not offering custom colors as part of the group buy) and the top coated in Sniper Gray.  There is a side by side with an anodized board and there is also an example with a beige dye sub pbt keycap so you can get some more context.  You'll be able to see just how different two colors/finishes can be: https://imgur.com/a/L2Psuxs

Will attach an image below for the sake of being able to reference this quickly.

My cerakoter said to check out some of the newer colors that just came out like Mojito, Polar Blue and Tequila Sunrise, he thought those were nice irl ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/xVqarAX.jpg?1)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: aslanxdeft on Tue, 07 January 2020, 17:48:36
How does the red match gmk burgundy? Planning on joining both.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: datfroyodoe on Tue, 07 January 2020, 17:51:28
I realized I hadn't shared any examples of Cerakote finish or talked about it much so here is a bit of an update on that front.

Cerakote feels much more matte and "textured" than anodization, for those unfamiliar with it.  The feeling and finish will actually change based on the color and the lighter you go typically the smoother and more watery it can feel.  White tends to be almost glossy and black is oppressively matte, that's the best explanation I can give there.

I am not necessarily recommending you cerakote, but just wanted to give some options to you all.  While the cerakote that my guy does is very very good, I still personally prefer the feel and shine of ano.  Some people like the color range that cerakote offers and the extra protection.  It is all preference.

Here is an album of a 00 that had the bottom coated in a custom made color (not offering custom colors as part of the group buy) and the top coated in Sniper Gray.  There is a side by side with an anodized board and there is also an example with a beige dye sub pbt keycap so you can get some more context.  You'll be able to see just how different two colors/finishes can be: https://imgur.com/a/L2Psuxs

Will attach an image below for the sake of being able to reference this quickly.

My cerakoter said to check out some of the newer colors that just came out like Mojito, Polar Blue and Tequila Sunrise, he thought those were nice irl ;)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xVqarAX.jpg?1)


 :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: zhang2118 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 19:05:06
Woot! Woot!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Little4Real on Tue, 07 January 2020, 19:51:47
No ABS plates like the OG runs?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: eniigma on Tue, 07 January 2020, 20:06:29
is there an estimated lead time?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Tue, 07 January 2020, 20:26:58
No ABS plates like the OG runs?

No ABS plates unfortunately, they are difficult to work with and I can't get them reliably thinner than 1.5mm for Alps so it is too much of a hassle.

is there an estimated lead time?


Can't really give one now, but I know that board manu time would be at least a month if not closer to 2, packing and shipping would be another 3 weeks at least.  That is all assuming the buy reaches the max unit cap.  If I open orders on the 20th then I would need to give at least 2 weeks to pay invoices so it would be probably mid february when the manu order got officially submitted.  I try to keep things as quick as I possibly can and the original GB went quick so let's cross our fingers and hope things stay smooth.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 07 January 2020, 21:05:07
Already left the hobby for a while now. Casually dropped in today to see what has been going on lately and saw this. I remember back in the day 00 was one of the board that I and many of my friends really wanted. Didn't think a GB this scale would happen. Pretty sick man. Good luck! Will try to make time to join this one for sure!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Tue, 07 January 2020, 21:16:08
In case people are looking for Alps typing test. I've asked around and found these for reference.

GSKT-00,
[/b]
 + Brown Alps


Credit to Brendan (brendan#1709) for these:

GSKT-00, https://clyp.it/uiuzdi0v
 + with 1.2mm poly plate
 + SKCM orange alps
 + DELL at101 dyesubs
 + 205g0 stabs

GSKT-00, https://clyp.it/lytfds2f
 + 1.5mm abs plate
 + SKCM orange alps
 + DELL at101 dyesubs
 + 205g0 stabs
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Orphus8 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 21:31:35
Definitely interested in this board!!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Tue, 07 January 2020, 21:38:40
Yay :D
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zephyraeon on Tue, 07 January 2020, 21:48:07
Seeing the bottom row in possible layouts - does this mean GSKT-00 supports AEK caps in full/HHKB case tops? How are stabilisers handled in that case?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Tue, 07 January 2020, 21:53:19
Yay :D

 :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Tue, 07 January 2020, 21:55:45
Seeing the bottom row in possible layouts - does this mean GSKT-00 supports AEK caps in full/HHKB case tops? How are stabilisers handled in that case?

Yeah it's possible, it just doesn't look great on the top row cause the case doesn't have the aek curve to it.

Not sure what you mean about the stabs, there would be alps stab cutouts in the plate as usual.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Kokaloo on Tue, 07 January 2020, 21:56:36
can you introduce some problems that may dissuade other people from wanting this so i can get one for sure
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 07 January 2020, 22:01:45
Already left the hobby for a while now. Casually dropped in today to see what has been going on lately and saw this. I remember back in the day 00 was one of the board that I and many of my friends really wanted. Didn't think a GB this scale would happen. Pretty sick man. Good luck! Will try to make time to join this one for sure!

"back in the day"

00 literally happened in 2018


 
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: jrs on Tue, 07 January 2020, 22:12:38
Will everyone joining the group buy have to sign a non disclosure agreement to keep the internal design a secret?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Tue, 07 January 2020, 22:20:35
Will everyone joining the group buy have to sign a non disclosure agreement to keep the internal design a secret?

Does it hurt to fit your head so far up your ass?

Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Tue, 07 January 2020, 22:22:57
"back in the day"

00 literally happened in 2018

Lmao this got me. Love you megaforce. The 280 ore comment still makes me laugh.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 07 January 2020, 22:52:32

"back in the day"

00 literally happened in 2018
No you're right. Always felt time flew by so fast with the amount of keyboards released every month. Just me.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 07 January 2020, 22:59:50

"back in the day"

00 literally happened in 2018
No you're right. Always felt time flew by so fast with the amount of keyboards released every month. Just me.

get rekt
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 07 January 2020, 23:10:22
get rekt
smh no more TGR family deal for you. Send v2 ce back  :mad:
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: dallman5 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 23:13:45
In case people are looking for Alps typing test. I've asked around and found these for reference.

GSKT-00,
[/b]
 + Brown Alps


Credit to Brendan (brendan#1709) for these:

GSKT-00, https://clyp.it/uiuzdi0v
 + with 1.2mm poly plate
 + SKCM orange alps
 + DELL at101 dyesubs
 + 205g0 stabs

GSKT-00, https://clyp.it/lytfds2f
 + 1.5mm abs plate
 + SKCM orange alps
 + DELL at101 dyesubs
 + 205g0 stabs

In case anybody was interested in hearing an example of the 00 with clicky switches, here’s a build I did previously with SKCM Blues.

GSKT-00, https://clyp.it/cmt3ox44
+ Steel Plate
+ SKCM Blue Alps
+ SGI Beige PBT Dyesubs
+ 205g0 stabs
+ Pictures, https://imgur.com/a/rxsl8M4
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Tue, 07 January 2020, 23:20:35
In case people are looking for Alps typing test. I've asked around and found these for reference.

GSKT-00,
[/b]
 + Brown Alps


Credit to Brendan (brendan#1709) for these:

GSKT-00, https://clyp.it/uiuzdi0v
 + with 1.2mm poly plate
 + SKCM orange alps
 + DELL at101 dyesubs
 + 205g0 stabs

GSKT-00, https://clyp.it/lytfds2f
 + 1.5mm abs plate
 + SKCM orange alps
 + DELL at101 dyesubs
 + 205g0 stabs

In case anybody was interested in hearing an example of the 00 with clicky switches, here’s a build I did previously with SKCM Blues.

GSKT-00, https://clyp.it/cmt3ox44
+ Steel Plate
+ SKCM Blue Alps
+ SGI Beige PBT Dyesubs
+ 205g0 stabs
+ Pictures, https://imgur.com/a/rxsl8M4

aye, the owner of sexy koala  :D
thanks for adding  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 08 January 2020, 00:14:10
"back in the day"

00 literally happened in 2018

Lmao this got me. Love you megaforce. The 280 ore comment still makes me laugh.

<3 GLHF with the GB uwu
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 08 January 2020, 00:34:09
get rekt
smh no more TGR family deal for you. Send v2 ce back  :mad:

it's okay, you never sent me one  ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Mekuno on Wed, 08 January 2020, 00:52:49
This is awesome, I am definitely in for one!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Solotov on Wed, 08 January 2020, 00:57:32
As you mentioned you have gathered a lot of feedbacks from the users, may I ask what have been changed to the current design as opposed to the OG GSKT-00?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: dyrdevil on Wed, 08 January 2020, 03:09:14
This looks great.  Going to be hard to pass up trying for at that price point with the feedback this board has had.  Ive been looking to add a 60% WKL to my collection, hoping it might be this one! Great work and happy to see it coming to a public GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: cyberFluff on Wed, 08 January 2020, 03:15:05
Will there be an exact time of the day the GB opens in case the units sell out in minutes or even seconds?

Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 08 January 2020, 03:42:42
Will there be an exact time of the day the GB opens in case the units sell out in minutes or even seconds?

The GB thread would need to be approved and made public before a set date & time could be given i'd assume.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Wed, 08 January 2020, 08:51:00
As you mentioned you have gathered a lot of feedbacks from the users, may I ask what have been changed to the current design as opposed to the OG GSKT-00?

Honestly the only things that have been changed are the half plate design and the bumpon cuts on the bottom.

Will there be an exact time of the day the GB opens in case the units sell out in minutes or even seconds?

I will try to pick a time that works well enough for the US and the EU, but I will update with that as we get closer.  As I said before, I could potentially open it again for a few more units at another time if there is a large portion of people in some other time zone that got really snubbed.  Would like it to be as fair as it can be.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 08 January 2020, 08:54:20
I would like to purchase one of these mechanical keyboards. Thank you
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 08 January 2020, 14:53:52
I would like to purchase one of these mechanical keyboards. Thank you

honestly nickheller ligma
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Signature on Wed, 08 January 2020, 15:00:50
I would like to purchase one of these mechanical keyboards. Thank you

honestly nickheller ligma
What is ligma?


I would like to start the GB as soon as possible. Shooting for January 20th as the opening date.  I don't know the GH process and if I need to get approval for a GB thread or what, so trying to give some buffer time.

Just make a thread and PM one of the mods (I'll be avail EU time) and we'll get to it. If it takes a while send another PM or go for one of the tall boys (hoff and tootall)  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: victorpre on Wed, 08 January 2020, 15:54:33
Yes, thanks for taking into consideration people from other timezones. I'm interested :)

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 08 January 2020, 15:57:31
I would like to purchase one of these mechanical keyboards. Thank you

honestly nickheller ligma
What is ligma?


I would like to start the GB as soon as possible. Shooting for January 20th as the opening date.  I don't know the GH process and if I need to get approval for a GB thread or what, so trying to give some buffer time.

Just make a thread and PM one of the mods (I'll be avail EU time) and we'll get to it. If it takes a while send another PM or go for one of the tall boys (hoff and tootall)  :-*

Here i was thinking you were a tall boy. Short boys 4 lyfe
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: alanskiii on Wed, 08 January 2020, 19:18:31

Will there be an exact time of the day the GB opens in case the units sell out in minutes or even seconds?

I will try to pick a time that works well enough for the US and the EU, but I will update with that as we get closer.  As I said before, I could potentially open it again for a few more units at another time if there is a large portion of people in some other time zone that got really snubbed.  Would like it to be as fair as it can be.

I hope I'm not at work when this drops. Appreciate your openness to being fair. Really want one in HHKB!
*edited quotes*
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: wd9001 on Wed, 08 January 2020, 19:39:00
Would the gasket that's being sold in this run be of the same duro as that of the private groupbuys?  :) Sound tests with softer gaskets are really nice, especially the ones using 30 duro. I could imagine the bottoming out being really soft.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 08 January 2020, 19:44:30
I was thinking maybe HHKB, but I'm heading to Japan this year at some point. So maybe I'll pick up a WKL and round out my 60 boards (standard, wkl and hhkb).

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Tekniqs on Wed, 08 January 2020, 19:57:17
def in for one
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Warrenified on Wed, 08 January 2020, 20:41:08
Will the orders be taken via a google form or some sort of store front?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: cdhoffmann on Wed, 08 January 2020, 20:44:15
Will the orders be taken via a google form or some sort of store front?

Getting the bot ready?


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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Warrenified on Wed, 08 January 2020, 20:47:17
Will the orders be taken via a google form or some sort of store front?

Getting the bot ready?


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Funny guy here.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Wed, 08 January 2020, 21:48:29
Would the gasket that's being sold in this run be of the same duro as that of the private groupbuys?  :) Sound tests with softer gaskets are really nice, especially the ones using 30 duro. I could imagine the bottoming out being really soft.

Yes the same as the original buy.  I don't personally think the softer duro ones give enough compression and it can make the sound a little more flat and less rubbery.

Just make a thread and PM one of the mods (I'll be avail EU time) and we'll get to it. If it takes a while send another PM or go for one of the tall boys (hoff and tootall)  :-*

Thank you I'll do that.

Will the orders be taken via a google form or some sort of store front?

Most likely a google form, but it's still up in the air at the moment.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Solotov on Wed, 08 January 2020, 22:08:42
Will the orders be taken via a google form or some sort of store front?

Most likely a google form, but it's still up in the air at the moment.

Google form please. Those store fronts with Paypal redirect are nightmare.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: noorejji on Thu, 09 January 2020, 01:18:56
Will the orders be taken via a google form or some sort of store front?

Most likely a google form, but it's still up in the air at the moment.

Google form please. Those store fronts with Paypal redirect are nightmare.

I would like a store front since I have no experience entering with google forms, so I'm just gonna get crushed by all the veterans. :D
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: dantambok on Thu, 09 January 2020, 01:41:08
NE bots avail  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: CoolMike on Thu, 09 January 2020, 07:16:13
I wonder what color I can get this Cerakoted to match my Nautilus Nightmares coming  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Cloudnine25 on Thu, 09 January 2020, 08:34:13
excited :D
those typing test are lit
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: mech0nly on Thu, 09 January 2020, 09:31:20
oh finally, hope can get one for my daily driver :D
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: noorejji on Thu, 09 January 2020, 10:11:58
I wonder what color I can get this Cerakoted to match my Nautilus Nightmares coming  :p
Not a bad idea! H400 looks like it would do the job. I was thinking a blue-grey for classic beige or firefly GMK Nord - possibly Blue Titanium (H-185Q) or Northern Lights (H-315Q).
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Uleet on Thu, 09 January 2020, 10:20:13
This is the keyboard that got me into mechanical keyboards. After Nathan spoke so highly about it I am excited LETS GOOOOO! Good luck on the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: FredBananaz on Thu, 09 January 2020, 12:34:12
Hopefully I can get myself one of these. Definetly interested
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: jrs on Fri, 10 January 2020, 02:22:42
Is it considered a "true isolation mount"?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: vegs on Fri, 10 January 2020, 03:24:06
Is it considered a "true isolation mount"?
Here we go
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: nguyenhimself on Fri, 10 January 2020, 03:56:25
Is it considered a "true isolation mount"?
Go ahead and define "true isolation mount" yourself.
What are you asking for here?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Fri, 10 January 2020, 04:00:53
Is it considered a "true isolation mount"?

(https://i.imgur.com/YHWULah.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: lolafineday on Fri, 10 January 2020, 04:13:35
Is it considered a "true isolation mount"?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YHWULah.png)

OH NONONO NOT AGAIN.

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Fri, 10 January 2020, 04:19:31
Is it considered a "true isolation mount"?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YHWULah.png)

OH NONONO NOT AGAIN.

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(https://i.imgur.com/P9vky5g.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: futurecrime on Fri, 10 January 2020, 04:43:54
lmao.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: jrs on Fri, 10 January 2020, 06:23:12
Will the PCB be red?  I like the look of a red PCB with red aluminum half plate.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Fri, 10 January 2020, 06:54:20
Is it considered a "true isolation mount"?

Nope, the plate rests in wing cuts in the top case. This is just considered gasket mount and uses a single gasket wrapped around the assembly.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Datastream on Fri, 10 January 2020, 09:28:13
Im interested in this board at HHKB config
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Fri, 10 January 2020, 09:47:16
Will the PCB be red?  I like the look of a red PCB with red aluminum half plate.

Quote
They'll be either green or red, I might even be able to offer choice of color.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Tyler on Fri, 10 January 2020, 11:28:30
Super stoked for this.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: macclack on Fri, 10 January 2020, 18:49:43
Yay!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: fluidin on Fri, 10 January 2020, 19:20:06
would this support an aftermarket HS pcb like the instant60? assuming no but i guess it wouldn't hurt to ask.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Fri, 10 January 2020, 19:43:21
would this support an aftermarket HS pcb like the instant60? assuming no but i guess it wouldn't hurt to ask.

Indeed No. The PCB is proprietary.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 10 January 2020, 20:01:50
Probably 0 chance but can we get a white PCB option?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: H3NT4I on Fri, 10 January 2020, 21:12:44
pls i need dis
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Fri, 10 January 2020, 21:15:15
Probably 0 chance but can we get a white PCB option?

Actually it is possible yeah.  We had red, green and white in the original GB.  I would like to keep it to red and green, but if the prices don't change for us then we can probably offer white as well.  No promises though.  Here's what the originals looked like.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/464994499001581580/491409768859041828/image0.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: jrs on Fri, 10 January 2020, 21:21:28
Will the diodes need to be soldered?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: lolafineday on Fri, 10 January 2020, 21:33:05
Probably 0 chance but can we get a white PCB option?

Actually it is possible yeah.  We had red, green and white in the original GB.  I would like to keep it to red and green, but if the prices don't change for us then we can probably offer white as well.  No promises though.  Here's what the originals looked like.

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/464994499001581580/491409768859041828/image0.jpg)

Haha nice italian flag me like

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Fri, 10 January 2020, 21:42:14
Will the diodes need to be soldered?

Nope, they'll be soldered from the factory.  You'll just need to solder switches.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: dantambok on Fri, 10 January 2020, 21:45:12
how does halfplate + pcb flex cutouts feel? i would imagine it being bouncy? cant wait! :)
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: jrs on Fri, 10 January 2020, 21:57:13
how does halfplate + pcb flex cutouts feel? i would imagine it being bouncy? cant wait! :)
G I G A F L E X
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: EnthusiastDude on Sat, 11 January 2020, 04:53:25
I really like the concept of this board, especially the alps support and well the gasket mount. Sadly I cannot use anything smaller than 65% layouts :( Is there a possibility that you will do bigger boards in the future?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 11 January 2020, 05:30:19
Probably 0 chance but can we get a white PCB option?

Actually it is possible yeah.  We had red, green and white in the original GB.  I would like to keep it to red and green, but if the prices don't change for us then we can probably offer white as well.  No promises though.  Here's what the originals looked like.

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/464994499001581580/491409768859041828/image0.jpg)


Hapi boi
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: sleek on Sat, 11 January 2020, 12:05:55
In for this, always wanted a classic gasket keeb. GLWS!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Etherealsound on Sat, 11 January 2020, 15:20:03
Insanely good price. I might just have to join in on this...
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: PhiloopLOL on Sat, 11 January 2020, 15:48:37
I really interested but am also interested as too why there is no brass plate?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: noorejji on Sat, 11 January 2020, 16:33:31
I really interested but am also interested as too why there is no brass plate?
I think stainless steel is a good alternative. You get that muted sound signature and a solid buttom down. The best sounding keyboard I know is a TGR Jane with SS plate.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Sat, 11 January 2020, 16:35:32
I really interested but am also interested as too why there is no brass plate?

I just don't like brass plates much.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sat, 11 January 2020, 16:40:53
Probably 0 chance but can we get a white PCB option?

Actually it is possible yeah.  We had red, green and white in the original GB.  I would like to keep it to red and green, but if the prices don't change for us then we can probably offer white as well.  No promises though.  Here's what the originals looked like.

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/464994499001581580/491409768859041828/image0.jpg)

Crossed fingers. White would be so cool!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 11 January 2020, 17:03:22
how does halfplate + pcb flex cutouts feel? i would imagine it being bouncy? cant wait! :)

My initial build with the 00 was half plate with the proprietary PCB that has the cross-board cutouts. It's easily the bounciest board I own.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 11 January 2020, 17:16:33
how does halfplate + pcb flex cutouts feel? i would imagine it being bouncy? cant wait! :)

My initial build with the 00 was half plate with the proprietary PCB that has the cross-board cutouts. It's easily the bounciest board I own.
Have you tried any other combos with the 00? If so which did you enjoy the most?

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: sarabee on Sat, 11 January 2020, 17:36:25
Hoping to get in for hhkb, fingers crossed!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 11 January 2020, 17:55:17
how does halfplate + pcb flex cutouts feel? i would imagine it being bouncy? cant wait! :)

My initial build with the 00 was half plate with the proprietary PCB that has the cross-board cutouts. It's easily the bounciest board I own.
Have you tried any other combos with the 00? If so which did you enjoy the most?

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I've also tried full aluminum plate and it was nice. I honestly would recommend either with confidence.

You can't really go wrong with the available choices. Cheers.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 11 January 2020, 18:28:26
Hmmm... I said no more 60s... but there was a lot of praise of this board. Maybe I’ll have to try and get one just to test.

If this buy goes well do you have any plans to make anything else? Like a 65/75 :P?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 11 January 2020, 19:40:06
I really interested but am also interested as too why there is no brass plate?

I just don't like brass plates much.

Honestly, having a Stainless Steel plate option over brass is so refreshing. I was a bit bummed when the brass craze started because I prefer the SS bottom out.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Sat, 11 January 2020, 20:23:35
Honestly, having a Stainless Steel plate option over brass is so refreshing. I was a bit bummed when the brass craze started because I prefer the SS bottom out.

Right there with you.  If I want a stiff plate I go to SS every time.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: haingo1094 on Sat, 11 January 2020, 20:49:29
do we have the exactly time for openning gb ? :D is it still 20th ?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: cdhoffmann on Sat, 11 January 2020, 21:00:14
I really interested but am also interested as too why there is no brass plate?

I just don't like brass plates much.

Honestly, having a Stainless Steel plate option over brass is so refreshing. I was a bit bummed when the brass craze started because I prefer the SS bottom out.

If you don’t mind me asking, what do you prefer about ss over brass? I know ss is supposed to be slightly more stiff but I’m curious as I haven’t tried ss.


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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: jrs on Sat, 11 January 2020, 21:35:53
I am going to get the GSKT-00 to cure my soul sickness.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: chive_ on Sun, 12 January 2020, 10:53:40
So in. This one is gonna go fast!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: ArchDill on Sun, 12 January 2020, 12:09:24
I really interested but am also interested as too why there is no brass plate?

I just don't like brass plates much.

Honestly, having a Stainless Steel plate option over brass is so refreshing. I was a bit bummed when the brass craze started because I prefer the SS bottom out.

If you don’t mind me asking, what do you prefer about ss over brass? I know ss is supposed to be slightly more stiff but I’m curious as I haven’t tried ss.


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Brass has a bit off a softer bottom out in my opinion. SS is a bit more harsh, which I like. I love a really solid bottom out on a board.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: mr.bean on Sun, 12 January 2020, 14:32:04
Which colors are available for cerakoting?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 12 January 2020, 16:12:34
Which colors are available for cerakoting?

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: zF4TE on Sun, 12 January 2020, 16:16:42
Sup Weaston, what's the lead time ?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Sun, 12 January 2020, 19:14:37
Sup Weaston, what's the lead time ?


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Can't really give one now, but I know that board manu time would be at least a month if not closer to 2, packing and shipping would be another 3 weeks at least.  That is all assuming the buy reaches the max unit cap.  If I open orders on the 20th then I would need to give at least 2 weeks to pay invoices so it would be probably mid february when the manu order got officially submitted.  I try to keep things as quick as I possibly can and the original GB went quick so let's cross our fingers and hope things stay smooth.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: keebweeb on Sun, 12 January 2020, 23:25:58
Really excited for this board!

A question though: due to the lack of control keys in the corners of the HHKB version this reduces the effective ``diameter'' that the gasket is stretched around, correct? Does this reduced tautness of the gasket have any impact on the mounting or the feel/sound? Also asking because looking at the case and PCB pictures it seems like the gasket might not rest on its bottom right and left ledges if the bottom right and left switches aren't there.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Ahrimofnor on Mon, 13 January 2020, 00:10:02
I'm all over this. A bit new to the hobby. Can someone explain the difference between full-plate and half-plate?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: jrs on Mon, 13 January 2020, 00:22:02
I'm all over this. A bit new to the hobby. Can someone explain the difference between full-plate and half-plate?
With the full plate, all of the switches are backed by a plate.  With the half plate, the plate just goes around the edge and usually behind the modifier keys, and the switches in the middle mount directly to the PCB.  There is more flex with the half plate.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: catamscott on Mon, 13 January 2020, 00:51:18
super excited for this, gonna be trying my best to get in on this. have an idb but absolutely want more soft and flexy boards

curious though as to how thick the acrylic plate will be? and are there any issues with flex and fragility? i've used a 3mm laser cut acrylic plate and found it to be fairly fragile in certain areas, cracking while trying to force in certain switches.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Stewiedk97 on Mon, 13 January 2020, 03:00:04
Polycarbonate top won't be an option unfortunately, will still cap on a silver WKL though!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 13 January 2020, 06:48:08
Really excited for this board!

A question though: due to the lack of control keys in the corners of the HHKB version this reduces the effective ``diameter'' that the gasket is stretched around, correct? Does this reduced tautness of the gasket have any impact on the mounting or the feel/sound? Also asking because looking at the case and PCB pictures it seems like the gasket might not rest on its bottom right and left ledges if the bottom right and left switches aren't there.

The assembly still rests on all pillars, this was accounted for when the pillar placements were decided on. As for this affecting anything, no it doesn't. The gasket is already fairly tight around the assembly so the extra few millimeters on each side that it would "lose" don't affect it in any measurable way.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Mon, 13 January 2020, 06:49:27
super excited for this, gonna be trying my best to get in on this. have an idb but absolutely want more soft and flexy boards

curious though as to how thick the acrylic plate will be? and are there any issues with flex and fragility? i've used a 3mm laser cut acrylic plate and found it to be fairly fragile in certain areas, cracking while trying to force in certain switches.

All mx plates will be 1.5mm. Yes an acrylic plate at that thickness could be a bit fragile. If you are worried about being too rough and breaking it then opt for polycarb.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 13 January 2020, 07:27:59
Hmm. Was thinking of going with red pcb and acrylic half-plate for ultimate bounce but maybe PC would be the more resilient bet. I imagine PC and acrylic would feel pretty similar and PC is less prone to cracking or breaking. Based on what everyone else has said whose used this board, I will likely put it through quite the workout and possibly daily drive.

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 13 January 2020, 21:37:09
Hmm. Was thinking of going with red pcb and acrylic half-plate for ultimate bounce but maybe PC would be the more resilient bet. I imagine PC and acrylic would feel pretty similar and PC is less prone to cracking or breaking. Based on what everyone else has said whose used this board, I will likely put it through quite the workout and possibly daily drive.

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If you want a soft plate with good durability, I highly, highly recommend POM.

Typing on a POM half plate and thin H87A right now, lots of fun and great sound.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 13 January 2020, 21:48:07
Hmm. Was thinking of going with red pcb and acrylic half-plate for ultimate bounce but maybe PC would be the more resilient bet. I imagine PC and acrylic would feel pretty similar and PC is less prone to cracking or breaking. Based on what everyone else has said whose used this board, I will likely put it through quite the workout and possibly daily drive.

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If you want a soft plate with good durability, I highly, highly recommend POM.

Typing on a POM half plate and thin H87A right now, lots of fun and great sound.
Hmmm. Never tried POM before. May have to give it a go. This release is giving me serious "I want one of everything" wiplash.

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: CamARush on Tue, 14 January 2020, 16:50:29
quick question. would this pcb be compatible with the case? https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-kbd6x-hot-swap-pcb?variant=21861844385840
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 14 January 2020, 16:53:42
quick question. would this pcb be compatible with the case? https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-kbd6x-hot-swap-pcb?variant=21861844385840
No. In this gasket case the pcb has cutouts creating flanges that sit on the gaskets. The gaskets being the only thing that holds them in place. At least as far as I can tell about a case I've never held. Haha.

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: CamARush on Tue, 14 January 2020, 17:04:37
quick question. would this pcb be compatible with the case? https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-kbd6x-hot-swap-pcb?variant=21861844385840
No. In this gasket case the pcb has cutouts creating flanges that sit on the gaskets. The gaskets being the only thing that holds them in place. At least as far as I can tell about a case I've never held. Haha.

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Thanks im guessing there are very few options for other pcbs. I'll just go with a stock one and hopefully i can fit some sockets in them.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 14 January 2020, 17:24:32
quick question. would this pcb be compatible with the case? https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-kbd6x-hot-swap-pcb?variant=21861844385840
No. In this gasket case the pcb has cutouts creating flanges that sit on the gaskets. The gaskets being the only thing that holds them in place. At least as far as I can tell about a case I've never held. Haha.

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The plate rests on the gaskets, not the PCB.

quick question. would this pcb be compatible with the case? https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-kbd6x-hot-swap-pcb?variant=21861844385840

No, it will not, the case has a center USB port.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: dRpkebs on Tue, 14 January 2020, 17:34:52
Is the GB still on for January 20th?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: CamARush on Tue, 14 January 2020, 17:50:27
Does the OP know if hot swap sockets are compatible with the pcb included?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 14 January 2020, 18:33:35


quick question. would this pcb be compatible with the case? https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-kbd6x-hot-swap-pcb?variant=21861844385840
No. In this gasket case the pcb has cutouts creating flanges that sit on the gaskets. The gaskets being the only thing that holds them in place. At least as far as I can tell about a case I've never held. Haha.

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The plate rests on the gaskets, not the PCB.


Good call. Then why are the cutouts on the PCB. It must be making room for something. Maybe pillars on the bottom half of the case?

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 14 January 2020, 18:40:56


quick question. would this pcb be compatible with the case? https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-kbd6x-hot-swap-pcb?variant=21861844385840
No. In this gasket case the pcb has cutouts creating flanges that sit on the gaskets. The gaskets being the only thing that holds them in place. At least as far as I can tell about a case I've never held. Haha.

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The plate rests on the gaskets, not the PCB.


Good call. Then why are the cutouts on the PCB. It must be making room for something. Maybe pillars on the bottom half of the case?

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It is more than likely just for alignment purposes and nothing else.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 14 January 2020, 18:44:53



It is more than likely just for alignment purposes and nothing else.

Ehhhh. I dunno.... I think it'd be hard to get any regular board to fit around those.

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 14 January 2020, 18:48:38



It is more than likely just for alignment purposes and nothing else.

Ehhhh. I dunno.... I think it'd be hard to get any regular board to fit around those.

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Exactly, the cutouts exist in the PCB to align the PCB and plate. Since this is gasket mounted, the plate position is not entirely fixed compared to a top-mount design.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: wd9001 on Tue, 14 January 2020, 19:06:45



It is more than likely just for alignment purposes and nothing else.

Ehhhh. I dunno.... I think it'd be hard to get any regular board to fit around those.

Show Image
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Exactly, the cutouts exist in the PCB to align the PCB and plate. Since this is gasket mounted, the plate position is not entirely fixed compared to a top-mount design.

Just to add on to that, the gasket sits between the plate and PCB. The PCB cutouts allow the gasket to sit on the pillars.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: wd9001 on Tue, 14 January 2020, 19:13:11
Hopefully this gives an idea on how the gasket sits on the pillar and what the PCB cutouts are for.

Edit: sorry the the down under picture. The grey line is suppose to be pcb, not plate.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 14 January 2020, 19:19:17
Hopefully this gives an idea on how the gasket sits on the pillar and what the PCB cutouts are for.

Edit: sorry the the down under picture. The grey line is suppose to be pcb, not plate.

If I understand it correctly then, the gasket is sandwiched between the PCB and the plate. The cutouts in the PCB allow for the gasket to rest on the pillars on the bottom half of the housing and between the underside of the plate.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: wd9001 on Tue, 14 January 2020, 19:21:41
Hopefully this gives an idea on how the gasket sits on the pillar and what the PCB cutouts are for.

Edit: sorry the the down under picture. The grey line is suppose to be pcb, not plate.

If I understand it correctly then, the gasket is sandwiched between the PCB and the plate. The cutouts in the PCB allow for the gasket to rest on the pillars on the bottom half of the housing and between the underside of the plate.

Mmmyes that should be exactly how it works.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Tue, 14 January 2020, 20:54:39
Does the OP know if hot swap sockets are compatible with the pcb included?

I answered this better a few pages back, but because we use a hybrid mx/alps cutout i don't think sockets will work.

Exactly, the cutouts exist in the PCB to align the PCB and plate. Since this is gasket mounted, the plate position is not entirely fixed compared to a top-mount design.

Actually the plate position is more or less fixed yes.  There is very little clearance in the plate wings so the plates sit very tight in them.  Their depth is also very specific to make the compression of the gasket hit a certain amount.  The plate isn't floating like the dampened sandwich plates you see from Keycult for example, so there is no manual alignment required.

Not that it matters, just sort of interesting.

Is the GB still on for January 20th?

Yes it should be, I am working to make it happen.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Tyler on Wed, 15 January 2020, 00:56:50
Apologies if I missed it somewhere, but what is the estimated turnaround time for this run?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Wed, 15 January 2020, 01:22:49
Apologies if I missed it somewhere, but what is the estimated turnaround time for this run?

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Can't really give one now, but I know that board manu time would be at least a month if not closer to 2, packing and shipping would be another 3 weeks at least.  That is all assuming the buy reaches the max unit cap.  If I open orders on the 20th then I would need to give at least 2 weeks to pay invoices so it would be probably mid february when the manu order got officially submitted.  I try to keep things as quick as I possibly can and the original GB went quick so let's cross our fingers and hope things stay smooth.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Roadsign1993 on Wed, 15 January 2020, 09:44:35
is the GB still planned for the 20th this month ?     
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: cdhoffmann on Wed, 15 January 2020, 09:45:15
is the GB still planned for the 20th this month ?   

Read literally a few posts above


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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: willyG on Wed, 15 January 2020, 10:43:44
I am SO hyped for this keyboard. I'm pretty noobie and been lurking - but it seems like a really awesome bandwagon to be jumping in :P.

I have a question about when the drop actually happens - since I've never done this I wanna be ready.... forgive my ignorance.

Assuming you still do the GB via a form, how will we be able to buy multiple plate materials that we want, or 2 cases since that's the limit? Will I need to refresh the form?
I'm mainly curious if I'll need to make another gmail account and be ready to login to both.

GL all.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 15 January 2020, 10:48:28
As a follow on to willyG (and sorry if this has been answered before, I haven't seen it), but will there be an option to buy just additional plates and/or PCBs? I'd love to get a single case and switch out a half vs full plate option. If not, I'm fine with just getting one build, but it'd be cool. Just not sure on the expected quantity available?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Wed, 15 January 2020, 11:05:40
Assuming you still do the GB via a form, how will we be able to buy multiple plate materials that we want, or 2 cases since that's the limit? Will I need to refresh the form?
I'm mainly curious if I'll need to make another gmail account and be ready to login to both.

GL all.

As a follow on to willyG (and sorry if this has been answered before, I haven't seen it), but will there be an option to buy just additional plates and/or PCBs? I'd love to get a single case and switch out a half vs full plate option. If not, I'm fine with just getting one build, but it'd be cool. Just not sure on the expected quantity available?

It will be a Google Form.  You will have to fill out an answer for every possible option.  So you'll have the ability to purchase up to the maximum of everything. 

So for example, there will be 2 entire case fields you'll have to fill out or pass on.  4 plate fields, 4 pcb fields, etc.

It makes the form a bit long, but because I am offering so many options and I need to limit amounts, this is the nicest way I have for now and it is still fairly straightforward.

I will try to share a demo form before the real form is up, so people can make sure they understand the process.  Looking to try to get the GB thread up by Sundayish.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 15 January 2020, 11:10:10
Awesome! I'm a big fan of that form method, way less confusion. Just go down the list, make the selections, and submit. No multiple submissions, etc. Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: noorejji on Wed, 15 January 2020, 11:12:33
In the case that this blows up during GB, would you restrict people to one board so that as many individuals as possible could get their hands on one?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 15 January 2020, 11:34:15
Would the form allow for edits or not? There's been some contention in the past with it supposedly incentivising rushing filling out the form, but it also makes it a ton easier for the runner to not have to deal with 50 PMs from people that typo'd their address in and whatnot.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Wed, 15 January 2020, 11:44:29
Would the form allow for edits or not? There's been some contention in the past with it supposedly incentivising rushing filling out the form, but it also makes it a ton easier for the runner to not have to deal with 50 PMs from people that typo'd their address in and whatnot.

I do not want to accept edits, what you submit is what will get sent to the factory for the final quote before manufacturing.  Having to keep track of edits across a potential maximum of 200 orders would be a nightmare.  Which is why I want to share the form at least a few hours early so people can see it and get familiar.  Of course there will be the case that someone could submit an email with a typo or something and in this case I would of course have to change that, but I would do when i send invoices potentially.

In the case that this blows up during GB, would you restrict people to one board so that as many individuals as possible could get their hands on one?

I would not restrict people, as it is a public GB, people will have their own intentions and wants.  Multiple people from the original run have multiple units with different builds in them.  I wouldn't want to issue a blanket statement or rule saying people can only have one just because I would be scared of people hoarding, because people have the freedom to do what they wish with the boards.  That is the nature of public GBs I suppose.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 15 January 2020, 12:38:03
Would the form allow for edits or not? There's been some contention in the past with it supposedly incentivising rushing filling out the form, but it also makes it a ton easier for the runner to not have to deal with 50 PMs from people that typo'd their address in and whatnot.

I do not want to accept edits, what you submit is what will get sent to the factory for the final quote before manufacturing.  Having to keep track of edits across a potential maximum of 200 orders would be a nightmare.  Which is why I want to share the form at least a few hours early so people can see it and get familiar.  Of course there will be the case that someone could submit an email with a typo or something and in this case I would of course have to change that, but I would do when i send invoices potentially.

That's an entirely reasonable and fair approach to take. Thank you for the clarification and I look forward to the group buy threat opening!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Ld1993 on Wed, 15 January 2020, 12:44:13
Assuming you still do the GB via a form, how will we be able to buy multiple plate materials that we want, or 2 cases since that's the limit? Will I need to refresh the form?
I'm mainly curious if I'll need to make another gmail account and be ready to login to both.

GL all.

As a follow on to willyG (and sorry if this has been answered before, I haven't seen it), but will there be an option to buy just additional plates and/or PCBs? I'd love to get a single case and switch out a half vs full plate option. If not, I'm fine with just getting one build, but it'd be cool. Just not sure on the expected quantity available?

It will be a Google Form.  You will have to fill out an answer for every possible option.  So you'll have the ability to purchase up to the maximum of everything. 

So for example, there will be 2 entire case fields you'll have to fill out or pass on.  4 plate fields, 4 pcb fields, etc.

It makes the form a bit long, but because I am offering so many options and I need to limit amounts, this is the nicest way I have for now and it is still fairly straightforward.

I will try to share a demo form before the real form is up, so people can make sure they understand the process.  Looking to try to get the GB thread up by Sundayish.
Will the offical gb form link be different from the demo form link we fill out beforehand, or will both of the forms share the same link when the official gb opens?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Wed, 15 January 2020, 12:52:16
Will the offical gb form link be different from the demo form link we fill out beforehand, or will both of the forms share the same link when the official gb opens?

They will be very very similar, but be different links. I may rename some things or move them around slightly, but it will more or less be the same.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: eniigma on Wed, 15 January 2020, 12:53:11
I think you should submit the group buy post in the next couple of days so it gets approved in time. GLWB!


Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: zekth on Wed, 15 January 2020, 13:59:34
Share a demo of the form? For bot users? well ... It will be hard to have a spot...
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: willyG on Wed, 15 January 2020, 14:17:31
Share a demo of the form? For bot users? well ... It will be hard to have a spot...

So long as he generates a new form, and changes some text,  the page elements won't be the same whatsoever....

Also... consider that there are item buy limits. Unless a botter has 10 different street addresses, I don't see how it'd matter much.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 15 January 2020, 14:55:52


Share a demo of the form? For bot users? well ... It will be hard to have a spot...

So long as he generates a new form, and changes some text,  the page elements won't be the same whatsoever....

Also... consider that there are item buy limits. Unless a botter has 10 different street addresses, I don't see how it'd matter much.

Definitely would need to change field names. Most bots ignore order and simply search on field. All this said, I really wish Google forms could use a recaptcha.

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 15 January 2020, 15:16:41
All this said, I really wish Google forms could use a recaptcha.

They do. Google maintains reCaptcha, in the Jane V2 CE buy people got caught in it.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 15 January 2020, 16:11:44
All this said, I really wish Google forms could use a recaptcha.

They do. Google maintains reCaptcha, in the Jane V2 CE buy people got caught in it.
Lol. Hard to select those bridges I guess.

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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Norato on Wed, 15 January 2020, 16:39:23
Really hope I’ll be able to grab one! Do you have a discord server by any chance, I find it easier to stay updated there.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: trg1234 on Wed, 15 January 2020, 20:01:54
All this said, I really wish Google forms could use a recaptcha.

They do. Google maintains reCaptcha, in the Jane V2 CE buy people got caught in it.
Lol. Hard to select those bridges I guess.

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Google captcha's randomly so getting caught in the captcha is not necessarily a sign of botting.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 16 January 2020, 06:46:08
So I've been looking around for keycaps for this beauty (assuming i get one, which i probably won't with my horrible luck), and was just curious if anyone else had any grandiose plans for this board? Part of me wants to go with a very traditional and soft color set. Another part of me wants to go with cerakote and one of the flashier GMKs.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 16 January 2020, 08:14:05
All this said, I really wish Google forms could use a recaptcha.

They do. Google maintains reCaptcha, in the Jane V2 CE buy people got caught in it.
Lol. Hard to select those bridges I guess.

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Google captcha's randomly so getting caught in the captcha is not necessarily a sign of botting.

If you use privacy features in your browser like blocking Javascript and cookies, you will almost always have to fill out 2-3 captcha rounds.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: bill_ng117 on Thu, 16 January 2020, 09:01:15
So I've been looking around for keycaps for this beauty (assuming i get one, which i probably won't with my horrible luck), and was just curious if anyone else had any grandiose plans for this board? Part of me wants to go with a very traditional and soft color set. Another part of me wants to go with cerakote and one of the flashier GMKs.

If I do get a chance to get this board I'd definitely put dark mode olivia++ on ^^
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 16 January 2020, 09:35:10
So I've been looking around for keycaps for this beauty (assuming i get one, which i probably won't with my horrible luck), and was just curious if anyone else had any grandiose plans for this board? Part of me wants to go with a very traditional and soft color set. Another part of me wants to go with cerakote and one of the flashier GMKs.

If I do get a chance to get this board I'd definitely put dark mode olivia++ on ^^

Ooo, yeah. That'd look great. I might combo some keycaps. Part of me wants to GMK lux, or maybe some combo of modern dolch/dolch light.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Thu, 16 January 2020, 09:46:52
So I've been looking around for keycaps for this beauty (assuming i get one, which i probably won't with my horrible luck), and was just curious if anyone else had any grandiose plans for this board? Part of me wants to go with a very traditional and soft color set. Another part of me wants to go with cerakote and one of the flashier GMKs.

I'm personally partial to the more classic look, silver case with red plate with some Cherry beige caps.  Or you could do black case with WOB, would look very professional.  Cerakoting is definitely where you get into weirder combos, usually louder.  The Rose Gold they have looks really nice though, has some metallic to it so it has a little sparkle to it.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Thu, 16 January 2020, 09:50:28
Speaking of Cerakote.  For anyone going that route, the unit you order will be silver regardless of the color you pick.  Silver is a cleaner "base" so to speak and is more neutral to the color you lay down on it.  The boards are media blasted before koting but still having it silver to begin with makes it easier.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Steezus on Thu, 16 January 2020, 10:05:52
I'm personally partial to the more classic look, silver case with red plate with some Cherry beige caps.

Hell yeah, you can never go wrong with that combo. I'm hoping to grab myself that combo and throw on a set of GMK KA 1953 I currently have not being used.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 16 January 2020, 10:08:18
So I've been looking around for keycaps for this beauty (assuming i get one, which i probably won't with my horrible luck), and was just curious if anyone else had any grandiose plans for this board? Part of me wants to go with a very traditional and soft color set. Another part of me wants to go with cerakote and one of the flashier GMKs.

I'm personally partial to the more classic look, silver case with red plate with some Cherry beige caps.  Or you could do black case with WOB, would look very professional.  Cerakoting is definitely where you get into weirder combos, usually louder.  The Rose Gold they have looks really nice though, has some metallic to it so it has a little sparkle to it.

That is an awesome look. One of mine (assuming I get any, and hopefully two) would be silver + aluminum full plate + a classic cap set.

If I get the second though it'll probably be cerakote + red PCB + POM half-plate + something fancy


Honestly I might just go red pcb + black transparent POM half-plate + gateron blacks (with the black transparent housing), and then just never put key caps on and stare at it.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: PikaJoyce on Thu, 16 January 2020, 10:15:34
So I've been looking around for keycaps for this beauty (assuming i get one, which i probably won't with my horrible luck), and was just curious if anyone else had any grandiose plans for this board? Part of me wants to go with a very traditional and soft color set. Another part of me wants to go with cerakote and one of the flashier GMKs.

I'm personally partial to the more classic look, silver case with red plate with some Cherry beige caps.  Or you could do black case with WOB, would look very professional.  Cerakoting is definitely where you get into weirder combos, usually louder.  The Rose Gold they have looks really nice though, has some metallic to it so it has a little sparkle to it.

That is an awesome look. One of mine (assuming I get any, and hopefully two) would be silver + aluminum full plate + a classic cap set.

If I get the second though it'll probably be cerakote + red PCB + POM half-plate + something fancy


Honestly I might just go red pcb + black transparent POM half-plate + gateron blacks (with the black transparent housing), and then just never put key caps on and stare at it.
If I get one, I’d like a rose gold cerakote just for Olivia++. It sounds kind of basic, but it’s been a theme I’ve been going after for some time now! :D
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 16 January 2020, 10:23:05
If I get one, I’d like a rose gold cerakote just for Olivia++. It sounds kind of basic, but it’s been a theme I’ve been going after for some time now! :D

I do love the rose gold look. No doubt. Personally It'd be amazing to get the case as a two tone black+rose gold cerakote, and the Olivia++ dark. Damn. That's all I want now, lol.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: yui_ on Thu, 16 January 2020, 12:11:47
So I've been looking around for keycaps for this beauty (assuming i get one, which i probably won't with my horrible luck), and was just curious if anyone else had any grandiose plans for this board? Part of me wants to go with a very traditional and soft color set. Another part of me wants to go with cerakote and one of the flashier GMKs.
I’m planning on beige caps with either grey or silver. @weaston can we get any pics of the different colours side by side to compare?


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Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Thu, 16 January 2020, 12:22:57
That Tequila Sunrise kote looked sick
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 16 January 2020, 12:58:25
Just a heads up. I got some cerakote swatches delivered (should have 5 more delivered today/tomorrow) that i'll post on here with some interesting colors. I'll try to take good photos of them. Again it likely won't reflect the exact final color you'd get from this order, and if anything I find the textures more interesting than anything else (not sure how well i can capture that in photos), but it'll just be some more info to pull hair out at.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: fleeceman on Thu, 16 January 2020, 15:15:33
Awesome, will hopefully snag one. Is there a discord or anything to keep up to date with updates?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Thu, 16 January 2020, 15:36:29
Awesome, will hopefully snag one. Is there a discord or anything to keep up to date with updates?

Nope  I don't have a server.  I would prefer to keep all interactions and updates in one place, so will just be using Geekhack for it all.  Makes it easier for me.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: wencan008 on Thu, 16 January 2020, 16:15:29
Don't have the funds on me to get a bit of everything, would you guys recommend an alu half plate or a pom or pc full plate?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 16 January 2020, 16:26:20
Don't have the funds on me to get a bit of everything, would you guys recommend an alu half plate or a pom or pc full plate?

Half alu or full POM imo.

Half alu if you want maximal "clack" and more rigidity, full POM if you want a softer, more uniform feeling. PC is too "clicky" for me.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: adxlk on Thu, 16 January 2020, 18:54:34
Don't have the funds on me to get a bit of everything, would you guys recommend an alu half plate or a pom or pc full plate?

Provide more info on what you like (sound, feel etc)
and especially, what switches you are going to be using
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: androo on Thu, 16 January 2020, 20:47:04
So in on this board. Is there a figure for the approximant unbuilt weight?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Norato on Thu, 16 January 2020, 21:27:12
Don't have the funds on me to get a bit of everything, would you guys recommend an alu half plate or a pom or pc full plate?

Provide more info on what you like (sound, feel etc)
and especially, what switches you are going to be using

Not OP, but how about plate recommendations for a tactile build. Looking for a deep sound out of zealios with a soft flexy bottom out
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: wencan008 on Thu, 16 January 2020, 22:08:49
Don't have the funds on me to get a bit of everything, would you guys recommend an alu half plate or a pom or pc full plate?

Half alu or full POM imo.

Half alu if you want maximal "clack" and more rigidity, full POM if you want a softer, more uniform feeling. PC is too "clicky" for me.

Thanks for the info

Don't have the funds on me to get a bit of everything, would you guys recommend an alu half plate or a pom or pc full plate?

Provide more info on what you like (sound, feel etc)
and especially, what switches you are going to be using

I like a deep thock (recently got some topre and liking the sound a lot). Probably will be using gat inks or nk creams. Not too sure what kind of feel I like, I've only really ever had hard bottom outs I think, which is why I'm between half alu and full pom because I'm guessing they'd both provide softer bottom out.

Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: born2relax on Fri, 17 January 2020, 02:07:21
for black inks, what plate would you go with?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 17 January 2020, 07:49:01
For plates I was going to go with full PC and half acrylic, but now I might just go full POM and half acrylic. Already have a PC plate in my Orion and I've never used POM before so now is the chance. Also going to use Creams.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: dRpkebs on Fri, 17 January 2020, 08:22:06
What plate would you guys recommend for the most "thock"?
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: bill_ng117 on Fri, 17 January 2020, 08:55:49
What plate would you guys recommend for the most "thock"?

I think full POM would be your plate of choice for thockiness
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 17 January 2020, 09:28:00
Can anyone comment on feeling of POM vs PC vs Acrylic? If they're close in type feel and sounds, I'll probably only order one.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: dantambok on Fri, 17 January 2020, 09:40:24
Couple more days till the 20th 👀👀
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: tex_live_utility on Fri, 17 January 2020, 09:42:26
Can anyone comment on feeling of POM vs PC vs Acrylic? If they're close in type feel and sounds, I'll probably only order one.

I can't comment on this particular board, but POM and PC feel very similar in a sandwich mounted keyboard. Apart from the sound I don't think I could tell them apart on feel alone.

I've used acrylic 3mm plates and that can be a bit firmer to type on. It's probably about the same flex as FR4, but FR4 can have a "dampening" effect whereas acrylic doesn't.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 17 January 2020, 09:53:01
Can anyone comment on feeling of POM vs PC vs Acrylic? If they're close in type feel and sounds, I'll probably only order one.

I can't comment on this particular board, but POM and PC feel very similar in a sandwich mounted keyboard. Apart from the sound I don't think I could tell them apart on feel alone.

I've used acrylic 3mm plates and that can be a bit firmer to type on. It's probably about the same flex as FR4, but FR4 can have a "dampening" effect whereas acrylic doesn't.

Awesome, thanks. That makes my choice easier. I have another full acrylic build underway, so i'll skip acrylic most likely, but POM vs PC is interesting. If they close together in feel/sound, i'll probably end up going with POM just because it's the rarer option (I can always build another PC plate board later, but I rarely see POM as an option).
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: weaston on Fri, 17 January 2020, 10:07:15
Can anyone comment on feeling of POM vs PC vs Acrylic? If they're close in type feel and sounds, I'll probably only order one.

I can't comment on this particular board, but POM and PC feel very similar in a sandwich mounted keyboard. Apart from the sound I don't think I could tell them apart on feel alone.

I've used acrylic 3mm plates and that can be a bit firmer to type on. It's probably about the same flex as FR4, but FR4 can have a "dampening" effect whereas acrylic doesn't.

Awesome, thanks. That makes my choice easier. I have another full acrylic build underway, so i'll skip acrylic most likely, but POM vs PC is interesting. If they close together in feel/sound, i'll probably end up going with POM just because it's the rarer option (I can always build another PC plate board later, but I rarely see POM as an option).

POM will feel and sound much warmer and pop-y.  Poly is kind of neutral as far as sound and feel goes.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 17 January 2020, 10:09:02

POM will feel and sound much warmer and pop-y.  Poly is kind of neutral as far as sound and feel goes.

Well that seals the deal for me. Just need to pray to the FCFS gods now!
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: sleek on Fri, 17 January 2020, 10:45:47

POM will feel and sound much warmer and pop-y.  Poly is kind of neutral as far as sound and feel goes.

Curious on your/everyone's thoughts on POM half or full plate. Really looking forward to a flexy build, trying to figure out which will have an overall more pleasant sound.
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 17 January 2020, 11:00:48
I'll just buy both
Title: Re: [IC] GSKT-00
Post by: Signature on Fri, 17 January 2020, 11:27:36
Locked.
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