Is this GMK? The colors and R0/R5 would indicate as much but it’s not explicitly said.Potentially. We're considering our options - there's been some interest expressed from other manus getting R0/R5 molds made and they're also OK color matching to stock GMK colors, but we've not finalized vendors or manus at this time.
Why are you doing an IC and posting kitting when you haven't picked a manu. Also if you go GMK do moulds for this set exist already?Lots of reasons! :)
Would you consider replacing the 1.5u backspace legend from "<- Back" to "Backspace", it's usually the preferred legend choice.I'll check with Beesley on the backspace. (Edit: Yep, we'll make this change.)
Are the sublegends going to be pad/UV print or doubleshot?
R0/R5 :cool: Would highly prefer if the subs ended up being doubleshot, set looks great though!
R0/R5 :cool: Would highly prefer if the subs ended up being doubleshot, set looks great though!
These would require a whole lot of new molds to do doubleshot sublegends, unfortunately, which would be very cost prohibitive. Also probably a pretty significant rework to meet the tolerance requirements.
Would you consider replacing the 1.5u backspace legend from "<- Back" to "Backspace", it's usually the preferred legend choice.
Are the sublegends going to be pad/UV print or doubleshot?
any chance for monotone N9 alt alpha?
could be a great alternative for Boneyard/Nines enjoyer
Astute observers might notice an additional change, too.... Like a certain German manufacturer being labeled in the images :)Good choice. Def going to be in on this one
(Edit: And the title now too)
I think we'd need to see a decent amount of interest to consider it. It's not great building out child kits, having people purchase based on the expectation those hit MOQ, etc., and then have them not reach it or force vendors to do a buyout for it to reach MOQ, so we really only want to do things we believe will hit MOQ naturally.
R1 1U Backspace? I'm so in.Lol, I was just about to say that key is pretty unnecessary, but it looks like at least someone cares about it :P
I'd rather have alice support in base than those 6 UK keys that 99% of the buyers will never useWe've had significantly more IC/etc. responses asking for UK support than alice support at all, even before we made the bars kit. And while the ZX Spectrum line didn't have UK legends like this on them, we are sympathetic to the argument that with a set that takes inspiration from a British electronics company has some specific kinship with UK legends.
And while the ZX Spectrum line didn't have UK legends like this on them, we are sympathetic to the argument that with a set that takes inspiration from a British electronics company has some specific kinship with UK legends.
And while the ZX Spectrum line didn't have UK legends like this on them, we are sympathetic to the argument that with a set that takes inspiration from a British electronics company has some specific kinship with UK legendsif they were never there, it makes no sense. just admit you're arbitrarily forcing 6 regional keys without physical coverage reasons instead of passing it off as a tribute to something that didn't even exist lmao
And while the ZX Spectrum line didn't have UK legends like this on them, we are sympathetic to the argument that with a set that takes inspiration from a British electronics company has some specific kinship with UK legendsif they were never there, it makes no sense. just admit you're arbitrarily forcing 6 regional keys without physical coverage reasons instead of passing it off as a tribute to something that didn't even exist lmao
also offering 4key 40 support in base while relegating shorter bars to a separate kit is pretty disingenuous
And while the ZX Spectrum line didn't have UK legends like this on them, we are sympathetic to the argument that with a set that takes inspiration from a British electronics company has some specific kinship with UK legendsif they were never there, it makes no sense. just admit you're arbitrarily forcing 6 regional keys without physical coverage reasons instead of passing it off as a tribute to something that didn't even exist lmao
also offering 4key 40 support in base while relegating shorter bars to a separate kit is pretty disingenuous
And while the ZX Spectrum line didn't have UK legends like this on them, we are sympathetic to the argument that with a set that takes inspiration from a British electronics company has some specific kinship with UK legendsif they were never there, it makes no sense. just admit you're arbitrarily forcing 6 regional keys without physical coverage reasons instead of passing it off as a tribute to something that didn't even exist lmao
also offering 4key 40 support in base while relegating shorter bars to a separate kit is pretty disingenuous
You left out perhaps the most important part of the post you quoted: "We've had significantly more IC/etc. responses asking for UK support than alice support at all, even before we made the bars kit."
To make it completely unambiguous: The primary reason we did this because there was enough IC demand. We're also sympathetic to the argument about Sinclair Research being a British company, but it is a secondary reason.
As for 4-key 40s support, again, people asked for it in the IC. Neither Beesley or I are 40s users so we're going off what people ask for here, because they know their keyboards better than either of us do. My understanding is there are several varieties of 40s layouts that can make use of 6.25U spacebars, and I have seen people using the the larger shifts as their spacebars as well (though that would admittedly be a bit weird here with the R4/R5 split.) We have a lot of IC responses asking for 4-key 40s, to the point where it tipped the balance on demand vs. cost while also accounting for the fact extended 40s kits struggle to meet MOQ and a separate 4-key kit would not be economically feasible because of how pricing works and likely end up in the same boat. If meeting one of the most common requests in our IC form is disingenuous, I'm not sure what to say.
I don't want this to get contentious, but misquoting us and picking fights isn't going to get kitting changed - we're not having a debate where the winner, on style or substance, gets their way. We have to make reasoned decisions based on customer demand, price, MOQ concerns, etc. A lot of designer's lives would involve a lot less stress if it was possible to make everyone happy, but it isn't. We're doing what we can to the best of our ability to make the most people happy. Unfortunately, there is absolutely nothing in our power we can do to make everyone happy.
You're a brave person for tackling that seriously.
You're a brave person for tackling that seriously.
oof. bold of someone whose only contribution to the forum is being a "UK ISO in base pls" text bot
If you don't ask, you never get.
Where's the harm in asking?
If you don't ask, you never get.
Where's the harm in asking?
no harm in asking, this is why I very much did so, suggesting to drop the UK keys in favor of alice bars, I think it's a legitimate point to be made?
it's kinda double sided labeling that as "trolling" while an identical, but opposite, request is welcomed and encouraged.
thanks to the designers for approaching the matter with seriousness though, even if we disagree.
If you don't ask, you never get.
Where's the harm in asking?
no harm in asking, this is why I very much did so, suggesting to drop the UK keys in favor of alice bars, I think it's a legitimate point to be made?
it's kinda double sided labeling that as "trolling" while an identical, but opposite, request is welcomed and encouraged.
thanks to the designers for approaching the matter with seriousness though, even if we disagree.
Time to make GMK Regal base kit the norm
If you don't ask, you never get.
Where's the harm in asking?
no harm in asking, this is why I very much did so, suggesting to drop the UK keys in favor of alice bars, I think it's a legitimate point to be made?
it's kinda double sided labeling that as "trolling" while an identical, but opposite, request is welcomed and encouraged.
thanks to the designers for approaching the matter with seriousness though, even if we disagree.
Time to make GMK Regal base kit the norm
If you don't ask, you never get.
Where's the harm in asking?
no harm in asking, this is why I very much did so, suggesting to drop the UK keys in favor of alice bars, I think it's a legitimate point to be made?
it's kinda double sided labeling that as "trolling" while an identical, but opposite, request is welcomed and encouraged.
thanks to the designers for approaching the matter with seriousness though, even if we disagree.
Time to make GMK Regal base kit the norm
unironically. makes no sense to me to bend over backwards to scrape $10 off a basekit price then relegating widely used keys to $30-ish child kits.
but then again, even regal has 6 extra keys that could be easily sacrificed ;D /s
You're a brave person for tackling that seriously.
oof. bold of someone whose only contribution to the forum is being a "UK ISO in base pls" text bot
Updated Kitting:
Added Alice support to basekit
Added Accent arrows & windowed keys to extension Kit
Added sublegends to NumPad
Updated Kitting:
Added Alice support to basekit
Added Accent arrows & windowed keys to extension Kit
Added sublegends to NumPad
No chance of getting 1u Enter in base? It would look better on some 40s layouts.
Is there a reason for why ins / del sublegends were left off numpad 0 and decimal respectively? Seems a bit out of place given that the rest of the numpad has appropriate subs.
Let's goo! Copped a base kit and extension kit. May also grab a deskmat before it closes if I'm feeling it lol.
I hope you get a bunch of buys from this, and all the best during the GB