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[IC] OG Coil Cables - Finalizing Color Choices
« on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 14:41:24 »
Most of the relevant information is already in the Google form: https://donutcables.com/og-coil-cables-ic/
Mobile link: https://goo.gl/forms/F59sBgMgvr5yiE4W2

Adding updated information here for specs:


D=25mm - the OD/outer diameter of the coils
D1=6.5mm - the OD of the cable itself
L1=150mm - the end that plugs into the keyboard
L2=500mm - the end that plugs into the pc/hub
L=448mm - the length of the coiled section
Connector options: USB A, B, Mini, Micro, C, and others on request.

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People like thick cables. People like coils. Some people really like the aesthetic of cables off of vintage keebs. Why not combine those things into a modern equivalent? That's what I'm trying to do here. Dubbed "OG Coil" Cables, these are meant to replicate the look of vintage cables through thicc insulation and factory made coils that can stand more abuse than hand made coils. Right now the tentative specs of the cables are:

8mm cable OD
110cm overall length in the following layout:
USB(B/Mini/Micro/C)---4cm---///30cm///---76cm----USB A
Matte black insulation
Tentative pricing of $25-$30
MOQ of 100

These are the current specs that I've requested quotes for from the manu, but they could easily be changed. I'll put some questions below concerning what could be changed about the cables.

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 14:58:41 »
Would like some OG cables, interested :thumb:
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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 15:08:38 »
I'll be in for some Beige ones.
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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 15:15:03 »
I've always loved the industrial aesthetic of vintage cables... The artisan-styled ones never did anything for me. I'm down for a couple!

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 15:30:24 »
I’ve been looking for one of these with nice connectors for a while. I would probably get at least one, maybe more if enough demand is indicated for multiple cables.

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 15:37:41 »
One thing I'm looking into is getting connectors that are maybe a bit better suited to this application than my stock ones, but without being a risk of breaking USB ports off PCBs like yarbo ones.

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 15:39:30 »
I’ve been looking for one of these with nice connectors for a while. I would probably get at least one, maybe more if enough demand is indicated for multiple cables.
Me too. I saw someone have one on kbdlabs a long time ago, and been wishing I could buy some somewhere.
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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 16:11:35 »
Yes. Beige.

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 16:25:14 »
Yea beige would be really nice! Is there an option to not have a connector on one side or do I have to bring out the good ol scissors?
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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 16:30:38 »
Yea beige would be really nice! Is there an option to not have a connector on one side or do I have to bring out the good ol scissors?
I could definitely leave one end off, just remind me to put a spot for comments/remarks on the order form so you can tell me later.

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 17:33:57 »
One thing I'm looking into is getting connectors that are maybe a bit better suited to this application than my stock ones, but without being a risk of breaking USB ports off PCBs like yarbo ones.

Yeah the Yarbo cables come close but IMO the connectors look a bit sloppy and they're heavy.

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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:40:09 »
I'll be in for some of those grey ones

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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 22:20:52 »
An aviator connection might relieve the USB by shifting the main weight back? Dunno how people would feel about that with this though.

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 22:25:19 »
An aviator connection might relieve the USB by shifting the main weight back? Dunno how people would feel about that with this though.
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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 22:33:47 »
I personally think aviator connections look too big/bulky on USB cables.
I found a pic I saved of the one I saw on kbdlabs a few years ago (would be even sweeter if we could get beige heat shrink):

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 22:49:18 »
I've never seen a cable nicer than that of the IBM model f at / xt. We should really try to replicate the thickness, the shine and smoothness of that rubber. The spiral is much bigger than usual. It's a joy to touch it.

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 14 March 2018, 23:44:50 »
I've never seen a cable nicer than that of the IBM model f at / xt. We should really try to replicate the thickness, the shine and smoothness of that rubber. The spiral is much bigger than usual. It's a joy to touch it.

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You should grab some measurements on that bad boy there and maybe we can see how close we can get to something like that.

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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 00:36:30 »
i'd buy one
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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 04:55:04 »
Definitely will buy one if there are more color options.  :thumb:
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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 05:58:30 »
I'd definitely be in for a couple.
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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 06:23:35 »
Would buy one or two.

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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 06:28:52 »
would def buy 1-2

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 13:38:23 »
Super interested. Would love something like this with a USB C end  :thumb:

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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 15:07:28 »
Definitely would be in, imo should have a grey/black/beige option

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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 15:46:23 »
Interested :thumb:
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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 15:59:08 »
Super interested. Would love something like this with a USB C end  :thumb:

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Wait what conncector do you have there? Looks like PS/2 to me, but that doesn't work with modern keyboards afaik

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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 16:39:20 »
Neat, I'm definitely interested

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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 16:40:01 »
A beige cable for my custom G8x-3000 build would be really awesome.
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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 20:25:13 »
I would be in for 1 or 2.
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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 21:25:00 »
Super interested. Would love something like this with a USB C end  :thumb:

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Wait what conncector do you have there? Looks like PS/2 to me, but that doesn't work with modern keyboards afaik

Works with some ;)
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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 21:38:12 »
Super interested. Would love something like this with a USB C end  :thumb:

(Attachment Link)


Wait what conncector do you have there? Looks like PS/2 to me, but that doesn't work with modern keyboards afaik

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 21:46:30 »
Super interested. Would love something like this with a USB C end  :thumb:

(Attachment Link)


Wait what conncector do you have there? Looks like PS/2 to me, but that doesn't work with modern keyboards afaik

all OTDs are ps/2
Except for the Koala.
I read it can be usb or ps2, but everyone I've seen has been usb.
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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 22:20:20 »
Super interested. Would love something like this with a USB C end  :thumb:

(Attachment Link)


Wait what conncector do you have there? Looks like PS/2 to me, but that doesn't work with modern keyboards afaik

all OTDs are ps/2
Except for the Koala.
I read it can be usb or ps2, but everyone I've seen has been usb.

koala has a different designer
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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 22:23:10 »
Super interested. Would love something like this with a USB C end  :thumb:

(Attachment Link)


Wait what conncector do you have there? Looks like PS/2 to me, but that doesn't work with modern keyboards afaik

all OTDs are ps/2
Except for the Koala.
I read it can be usb or ps2, but everyone I've seen has been usb.

koala has a different designer

I was just saying that it's the only OTD board that I know of that uses USB.
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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 16 March 2018, 03:04:37 »
I'd be interested in one...

I do think 4cm is quite a bit too short for the 'small end' of the straight part of the cable, perhaps doubling it to 8cm, to assure maximum compatibility with boards/other thing people want to use it for... as well as to get the bigger bulk of the coil a bit further away from the keyboard/thing for compatibility with some desk environments (whether it be for aesthetic or functional reasons)

(the short end of the straight part of the cable is about 12cm on a model M SDL cable, for what thats worth)

edit:  also yes to a gray/beige option  :thumb:

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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 16 March 2018, 09:41:50 »
In for one of these dude.
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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 16 March 2018, 12:46:01 »
Looks interesting. Just so everyone knows, the "THICC" cable and extra big coil options are a lot larger than the old school IBM beige cables. This is more along the lines of the "medium" sized options in the form.

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« Reply #37 on: Fri, 16 March 2018, 14:41:59 »
I'll take three.
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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 17 March 2018, 14:43:50 »
Will USB c be offered?

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« Reply #39 on: Sat, 17 March 2018, 14:49:44 »
Will USB c be offered?
Yes, it´s in the OP
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« Reply #40 on: Sat, 17 March 2018, 22:55:17 »
Yes please, black Type-C! 

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« Reply #41 on: Sat, 17 March 2018, 23:16:28 »
I'll be in for some Beige ones.

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 17 March 2018, 23:16:35 »
Interested. I said grey in the form but I take it back - black shiney like this please:

I've never seen a cable nicer than that of the IBM model f at / xt. We should really try to replicate the thickness, the shine and smoothness of that rubber. The spiral is much bigger than usual. It's a joy to touch it.

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Also vote for male+female PS/2 over aviator as a coupler.
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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 18 March 2018, 00:36:13 »
Give me them

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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 18 March 2018, 01:00:06 »
looks good

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 18 March 2018, 15:24:39 »
Yeeeeaaah I'ma need you to drop whatever you're doing and start making these immediately.

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« Reply #46 on: Sun, 18 March 2018, 17:56:17 »
Count me in!

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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 18 March 2018, 18:59:06 »
Super interested. Would love something like this with a USB C end  :thumb:

(Attachment Link)


Wait what conncector do you have there? Looks like PS/2 to me, but that doesn't work with modern keyboards afaik

all OTDs are ps/2
all OTDs that use default controller are ps/2 if you use the a356 controller you can use USB.
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Re: [IC] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 18 March 2018, 19:37:04 »
I've never seen a cable nicer than that of the IBM model f at / xt. We should really try to replicate the thickness, the shine and smoothness of that rubber. The spiral is much bigger than usual. It's a joy to touch it.

(Attachment Link)

I 10/10 agree and I'm quite interested. As far as heatshrink goes, I think it should remain black as opposed to doing grey/beige as another user mentioned.
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« Reply #49 on: Sun, 18 March 2018, 19:51:01 »


I 10/10 agree and I'm quite interested. As far as heatshrink goes, I think it should remain black as opposed to doing grey/beige as another user mentioned.

Heatshrink can easily be to-order rather than making everything the same.