Antivax ?

[tp4tissue]

    …Finnish expert panel’s summary of more than 4,000 international studies which showed one in two adults and around 2% of children may experience prolonged symptoms connected to COVID-19.

    “Around 20% see long-term cognitive impairment,” Roine added, warning that the incidence of neurological diseases such as Alzheimer’s or Parkinson’s could increase sharply following a COVID-19 infection.

[Leslieann]

kekeke.. well certainly not _the whole_ military.

Other branches are similar.
While you think they spend all day marching around and doing menial things they spend an insane amount of time keeping skills sharp. Breach exercises, shooting exercises, equipment checks, etc.. all need to be done on a constant basis or you get rusty very, very fast but even common grunts have secondary jobs, it takes a lot to keep that many people trained/fed and equipment ready at all times. Who do you think sets up training exercises, feeds them, procures ammunition, arranges appointments, packs chutes, mans the armory, guards the gate, handles all of the paperwork, etc...

You never want your military idle.
Idle hands with access to military equipment/explosives is a surefire way for something stupid to happen. Interpret that however you want, you're probably correct.

[tp4tissue]

Leg pain...

Thoughts ?   Omicron ?

[fohat.digs]

My right leg is hurting like hell.
It might be the knee replacement surgery 2 weeks ago.

[tp4tissue]

My right leg is hurting like hell.
It might be the knee replacement surgery 2 weeks ago.

Could be omicron leg.

[Leslieann]

Leg pain...

Thoughts ?   Omicron ?

Did you get a shot or booster or maybe catch Covid?

Some people experience random sharp pains.
Just be sitting there and a leg hurts or an arm hurts, 5 minutes later, gone. 30 minutes later something else just randomly hurts.
If you caught Covid it can do this for weeks/months/years.

Go get an N95 mask from Home Depot, like I recently did. It's like $4 for 3 of them and filters Covid.
I spent a little more and got exhaust valved ones, they build up less heat. I also carry a small bottle of sanitizer in my pocket.
Protect yourself because these people won't. Can't tell you how many times I see people out hacking coughing "sorry, I'm real sick", then why are you out and about without a mask you *sshole.

[tp4tissue]

The literature is pretty scary, Might be blood clots..

[pixelpusher]

The literature is pretty scary, Might be blood clots..

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take asprin, dude.  GH is only interest checks and TP posts at this point.  I don't wanna lose the primary source of off-topic discussions

[tp4tissue]

take asprin, dude.  GH is only interest checks and TP posts at this point.  I don't wanna lose the primary source of off-topic discussions

Second day, leg's ok-ish,  ankle still feeling some soreness.

Sense of smell ok, oximeter 98%

[fanpeople]

take asprin, dude.  GH is only interest checks and TP posts at this point.  I don't wanna lose the primary source of off-topic discussions

Second day, leg's ok-ish,  ankle still feeling some soreness.

Sense of smell ok, oximeter 98%

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[tp4tissue]

Held breath for 1 minute, got it down to 96% , so seems working.

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Covid detection doge's

Is this how doge covid becomes a thing ?

Thoughts ?

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[noisyturtle]

Covid detection doge's

Is this how doge covid becomes a thing ?

Thoughts ?

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aint nobody gonna sniff that anus!

[Leslieann]

Here's something I think needs to be addressed.

At the start of Covid it was "wear a mask to protect others", it made sense at the time.
Then it became wear a mask if you're not vaccinated or if you want, again, prior to Omicron this made some sense.
Today, anti-vaxxers never vaxxed, never wore a mask, most vaxxed are rarely wearing a mask. So if you/I/we aren't sick, why are we still wearing a mask that does almost nothing to protect the wearer?

It's long past the time to quit "wear(ing) a mask to protect others" and start wearing a mask to protect you.  Stop using the the paper and cloth masks, get an N95 or N100. These people aren't going to protect you, YOU need to protect you.

[tp4tissue]

N95s are pretty expensive,  and "recently" sold out everywhere. "round here"


CDC predicting 62000 covid deaths in the next 4 weeks,  62000/ (4*7) =

2214 deaths PER DAY.

Happy joy joy...

[tp4tissue]

[Leslieann]

N95s are pretty expensive,  and "recently" sold out everywhere. "round here"

Tons at local our Home Depot.
$9 for two with valve, $5 for 3 without.

Maybe chuck out towards the suburbs.

Note:
They will be in the paint section, and don't be surprised if they shove $25 variants in your face first if you look online. Keep scrolling though "in stock" results.

[tp4tissue]

Texas schools ask parents to be substitute teachers as the actual teachers are sick and or dead.

So...

the main problem... among many...   

Is that, ANY-ONE with enough free time + the desire to walk into a Covid infestation,  can-not-possibly know anything worthwhile to teach other humans...

The result.... Idiocracy (2006 film) in real-time..

[Lurch]

fake news

[Leslieann]

Texas schools ask parents to be substitute teachers as the actual teachers are sick and or dead.

Worse...
This can be used later to justify lowering teaching requirements as well as depress wages even further.

They should call in the National Guard, it's what it was created for, same as needing extra nurses and nursing assistants.
Of course that would mean Texas would have to pay for it. Silly me.

[tp4tissue]

Doctor's quote:   Both, HILARIOUS, and Shockingly sad..

Now I'm seeing beds being blocked by people who don't want to get vaccinated, don't want any COVID related treatments because they don't believe in them, but they still want to be in hospital. The beds are blocked by these people, who abuse us, and I'm having to watch people with heart attacks, strokes, surgical needs, cancers, motor vehicle accidents, burns, etc, all wait in accident and emergency for a bed. I've started to see the unnecessary deaths pile up, started to see people have bad outcomes that didn't need to be as bad if they had gotten onto the wards quicker.

[tp4tissue]

USA gubamon't gon' gibs Free at home tests starting the 19th..   Should just have an amazon subscription.

This stuff is pretty expensive to tax payers,  they should include netflix with the tests,  Then everyone would take them.

[fohat.digs]

don't want to get vaccinated, don't want any COVID related treatments because they don't believe in them

Every time that I have had medical procedures done I have had to sign release forms that acknowledged that I understood the risks and gave the doctors the latitude to do what they needed to do.

Are Covid patients not required to consent to the primacy of usual and customary care?

[Leslieann]

Doctor's quote:   Both, HILARIOUS, and Shockingly sad..

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Now I'm seeing beds being blocked by people who don't want to get vaccinated, don't want any COVID related treatments because they don't believe in them, but they still want to be in hospital. The beds are blocked by these people, who abuse us, and I'm having to watch people with heart attacks, strokes, surgical needs, cancers, motor vehicle accidents, burns, etc, all wait in accident and emergency for a bed. I've started to see the unnecessary deaths pile up, started to see people have bad outcomes that didn't need to be as bad if they had gotten onto the wards quicker.

Sounds like time for combat triage.
You want no help, we can't help you. BYE. Time to kick them out of the bed to help someone they can save.

By the way
I would imagine there's a case to be made for manslaughter or wrongful death against these people if someone dies as a result of this. Not sure why a hospital would want someone in their bed/care who is refusing care.  It puts them in a weird position where they;re responsible if something happens, yet unable to prevent it.

[tp4tissue]

Latest antivax vogue, 

Benadryl + Milk = The CuRE

Has vaporized Robitussin been tested ? /conspiracy

[tp4tissue]

Likelihood of "Cholera Riots"  urban peasants and soldiers rioted during the second cholera pandemic in Russia. (1830-1831).

The mob attacked hospitals, police departments, quarantine zones, killing hated functionaries, officers, landowners and gentry.

Cholera reached Britain in 1831 from Russia, 20,000 Aberdonians (two-thirds of the city's population) protested against the medical establishment, which they believed were using the epidemic as a body-snatching scheme similar to the Burke and Hare murders of 1828:

In 1893 fatal riots broke out in Hamburg, Germany during the fifth cholera pandemic, because the public objected to sanitary officers trying to enforce regulations for the prevention of spread of the disease. The crowd beat to death a sanitary officer and one of the policemen sent to protect them.

Thoughts ?  Happening real time ? Solutions ?

[tp4tissue]

oh man, that last line..  like out of a zombie movie


Nurse:

Putting someone in a body bag is so ****ing unceremonious. I don’t care what you say about dying with dignity. Put someone in a ****ing body bag. They are just meat and flesh and weight. I open the window for him.

I came home in a mood. I swore I wouldn’t keep doing this. I make breakfast for my husband, silently willing him to work quicker. I shower, and when he’s gone, I take a long, hard pull from the bottle of tequila I have hidden in the freezer. I can’t keep doing this. I don’t cry.

[chyros]

Latest antivax vogue, 

Benadryl + Milk = The CuRE

lolwut

Is this one of those American ivermectin hypes again? xD I should open a school of alchemy there!

oh man, that last line..  like out of a zombie movie


Nurse:

Putting someone in a body bag is so ****ing unceremonious. I don’t care what you say about dying with dignity. Put someone in a ****ing body bag. They are just meat and flesh and weight. I open the window for him.

I came home in a mood. I swore I wouldn’t keep doing this. I make breakfast for my husband, silently willing him to work quicker. I shower, and when he’s gone, I take a long, hard pull from the bottle of tequila I have hidden in the freezer. I can’t keep doing this. I don’t cry.

Wow, that's... pretty hefty stuff Oo .

[noisyturtle]

Lot of people at work complaining about COVID-like symptoms, but without any fever.

[Leslieann]

Lot of people at work complaining about COVID-like symptoms, but without any fever.

Only something like 40% of people with Covid have a fever (I didn't).

There is no single universal symptom.

[tp4tissue]

Lot of people at work complaining about COVID-like symptoms, but without any fever.

Only something like 40% of people with Covid have a fever (I didn't).

There is no single universal symptom.

HypochondriP4 had a super fever on shot 2 moderna.   Gon' get booster soonish..

[tp4tissue]

Compassion for antivaxxers... ??

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1980s, Kenneth Doka, a senior vice president of grief programs for the Hospice Foundation of America and the author of Grief Is a Journey and other books on dying, coined the phrase “disenfranchised grief.”

“We see disenfranchised grief when a living loved one doesn’t feel they can fully grieve because of the societal taboos around a loved one’s death,” Doka told me. “We see this when the victim is perceived to have had a role in their death, like we saw during the HIV/AIDS epidemic, but also with other things, like suicides, drug overdoses, and certain diseases.”

Lung cancer is a classic example—one study found that people were more likely to ascribe blame to lung-cancer patients who smoked than those who didn’t. “I think the same thing is happening with COVID,” Doka said. “But now, instead of asking if the person smoked, we’re asking if they were vaccinated.”

[Leslieann]

While the lack of grief may be due to perceived taboos the reasons for those taboos are very much NOT the same.

We have no easy fix for ANY of those other things mentioned, regardless of contributing factors,  if we did have a two injection cure for them people would be lined up around the block and yet that's exactly what we have for Covid and these people chose not to.

It is NOT the same.

[tp4tissue]

Not saying it's the same LLan,  only pointing out that the problem runs deeper.

At the end point, any 1 person can not pay a price higher than "Death." 

Sure he's incurred debt, thrown upon the "rest of society",  but once an antivaxxer dies, it's an equitable exchange.

It may be prudent at that point to find it in "ourselves" to forgive and look towards solving the true cause of ignorance (socio-economic gap// hedonic hijacking), rather than ruminate on blame.

Society can abhor antivaxxers, but the bulk of their ignorance is the product of misappropriated time-wealth rather than true-evil.


No One Chooses to be a moron.  Antivaxxers are born into a set of conditions and they don't cross the line intellectually.

[noisyturtle]

I am again reminded that even people who are not anti vaxx still will almost always show up for work and work their full shift even when they feel "on death's door" because they need the money. So really being sick, knowing you are sick, and still coming into work and that being totally accepted by everyone else is totally fine. Nothing has changed at all. It pissed me off pre-COVID, and pisses me off now. People clearly do not care one iota about anyone but themselves, no matter what their scientific or political views may be. You have to actually force people to get tested and stay quarantined, if anything we need more gestapo-style rules, because some people are too thick and selfish to give a damn otherwise. I'll gladly inconvenience myself and sacrifice some liberties if it means everyone else will be forced to comply. Thing is, almost no one else is willing to, even when the company covers their sick days off under quarantine. All they need to do is test positive and they get paid not to come in and make everyone else sick. And they still choose not getting tested. I give up. There is literally nothing I can do to prevent getting sick.

[chyros]

No One Chooses to be a moron. 
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Honestly, I'm not sure I believe that.

[fohat.digs]

No One Chooses to be a moron. 

Honestly, I'm not sure I believe that.

I somewhat agree, but it depends on what "choice" means.

There is always a default passive "choice" to do nothing, and many stupid (and maybe not so stupid) people spend their lives wallowing in ignorance because it seems so much easier.

I have known a number of "stupid" (in the academic sense) people who were, nevertheless, interested in learning what they could and doing the best they could with what they had to work with. They possessed the crucial and admirable trait of open-mindedness that made them strive to better themselves.

On the other hand, I would describe the behavior of the Radical Right as "aggressive ignorance" ....

[Leslieann]

No One Chooses to be a moron.  Antivaxxers are born into a set of conditions and they don't cross the line intellectually.
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Some people do.
There's a dedicated segment who are "proud to be ignorant", seriously, they even make hats for them that proclaim this.

At first I thought this was about being too smart was like being too close to god, which is also thrown around among some people, but there is actually a bunch of people who are simply proud to be ignorant of things because it makes them too much like those "coastal elites".

And then there's Amish.

[tp4tissue]

News Headline:

Omicron is not that mild: 50,000 to 300,000 more US deaths projected by March

If the higher end of projections becomes reality, total U.S. deaths from COVID-19 could soar over 1 million by early spring.


Welp, that didn't take long.

[tp4tissue]

Headline:

Covid positive patients calling in today (hospital) to see if the new Pfizer drug to treat Covid is available yet (but) won’t get a vaccine by the same company.

[chyros]

News Headline:

Omicron is not that mild: 50,000 to 300,000 more US deaths projected by March
Welp, that didn't take long. [/size][/color]

Weird, over here cases are soaring but hospitalisations are dropping like a stone Oo .

No One Chooses to be a moron. 

Honestly, I'm not sure I believe that.

On the other hand, I would describe the behavior of the Radical Right as "aggressive ignorance" ....

Yes, that's exactly what I was aiming at. Choosing to be ignorant is not an excuse for being a moron.

[noisyturtle]

Lot of people at work complaining about COVID-like symptoms, but without any fever.

Only something like 40% of people with Covid have a fever (I didn't).

There is no single universal symptom.

Aaand my manager and assistant manager are both out sick with COVID

Aaand I received 2 more CDC texts saying people I work with have been diagnosed with COVID

Only a matter of time now...

[tp4tissue]

Only a matter of time now...

Veggies + Xercise

[chyros]

Only a matter of time now...

Veggies + Xercise

I eat no veggies and am precluded from doing exercise atm, still never got it! (yet)

[fohat.digs]

I eat no veggies

I find this very difficult to believe.

[chyros]

I eat no veggies

I find this very difficult to believe.

Why? XD

[fohat.digs]

Perhaps if you exclude tomatoes, potatoes, wheat, rice, and barley?

[chyros]

Perhaps if you exclude tomatoes, potatoes, wheat, rice, and barley?

None of those are vegetables I think, but yeah.

Onions I do eat with some regularity though.

[fanpeople]

Onions I do eat with some regularity though.

Onions are seasoning, not vegetable. My dog is a ****ing vegetable though.

[noisyturtle]

Onions I do eat with some regularity though.

Onions are seasoning, not vegetable. My dog is a ****ing vegetable though.

I ate his little face, I ate his little nose, and I ate the way he's always barking!