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Offline dux

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« Reply #100 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 10:31:04 »
I'm (B) but would definitely take 1,5 Control and Alt if available.
I would also take Alt Gr in 1,25 or 1,5 if available.
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Offline Grond

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« Reply #101 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 10:58:37 »
Quote from: cycloverid;438581
Not sure about how good RGB looks on a keyboard yet!  But, I might want some later if I make up my mind.

There are beautiful pictures here and on DT that may help you decide! :)
Personally, I'm no keyboard pimp. I'm not into rainbow keycaps nor glow-in-the-dark stuff or blue leds under clear 'caps. Not for me. But I do like a bit of color on my keyboard. I think RGB(Y) is a very nice solution. Moreover, it's a replica of a vintage cherry product, which makes it even better! :thumb:
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« Reply #102 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 12:07:31 »
Only the Esc are smaller, or does that apply to all SP keys?
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« Reply #103 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 12:11:29 »
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The Cherry Corp Esc and the Signature Plastic Esc are QUITE different in how they look on the keyboard.

Weird sizing on the Signature Plastic Esc - a bit smaller than most in the horizontal dimensions.
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Yeah, it won't mesh perfectly of course.  But neither do the moogle kits.  For me it's all about the font.  Bright red Escapes stand out, and it irks me to see "ESC" in all caps in SP's font when the rest of my keyboard is thick and Cherry-tastic.
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« Reply #104 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 12:50:43 »
Man your really good at marketing your ideas lol.  Nice pics rip.
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Offline Alasdair

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« Reply #105 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 13:26:41 »
I would be interested in 2-5 Esc keys.
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Offline Grond

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« Reply #106 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 13:48:45 »
This post by 7bit really made me wonder: what if reverse RGBY (color on black key) did actually look better?
http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?p=23555#p23555
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« Reply #107 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 14:08:55 »
That does seem like it could look awesome.  Maybe someone could do a mockup with a real photograph?  Problem there is we then have to agree on a base color for the keys.
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« Reply #108 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 14:14:43 »
I think black would be ideal (more contrast, and possibly black keys are more used overall), but then it would not mix well with beige cherry sets.
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« Reply #109 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 14:29:59 »
I'd be in for 3 or more ESC key.

I'd love a RGB on black DS (and a spare old school win-less set too on black DS to fit a soon to come custom 1800. I know I'm asking too much but hell with it. :D )
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« Reply #110 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 15:23:01 »
I like the idea of color on black, kind of like the old Model M numpad keys.

But I've bought too much keyboard crap already, and have recently branched out into obsessing about mice.
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« Reply #111 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:05:01 »
I'll probably pull out on this one since I'm probably going to checkerboard my 'board instead and won't need the extra colors.
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« Reply #112 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:13:38 »
I lost track, this is going to be an expedited group buy and won't be included in Group Buy 4 right? If so, I'm just going to cancel my order over there, and probably buy a set or something... I've got invoice 9
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« Reply #113 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:13:45 »
I am down for 1 esc
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« Reply #114 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:15:46 »
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I lost track, this is going to be an expedited group buy and won't be included in Group Buy 4 right? If so, I'm just going to cancel my order over there, and probably buy a set or something... I've got invoice 9

Yeah, this is not connected to Round 4 and should be finished much quicker.  What do you mean by invoice 9?
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Offline RColinTaylor

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« Reply #115 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:16:39 »
To be honest Hash: I think you should just do the Escape keys. If you want to do the RGB's then get what you want and try to not pick what everyone else wants.
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« Reply #116 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:21:56 »
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Yeah, this is not connected to Round 4 and should be finished much quicker.  What do you mean by invoice 9?

It means I was the 8th person to place an order, which I'm sure doesn't mean anything but since I'm still in the group buy, I might as well pick something up.

So how many Esc key orders do we need to get this baby rolling?
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« Reply #117 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:23:58 »
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To be honest Hash: I think you should just do the Escape keys. If you want to do the RGB's then get what you want and try to not pick what everyone else wants.

You might be right.  We're not committed to doing anything yet -- it's just an interest check (though I will make sure we do at least the Escape).  I'll have numbers from Melissa shortly.
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« Reply #118 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:25:18 »
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You might be right.  We're not committed to doing anything yet -- it's just an interest check (though I will make sure we do at least the Escape).  I'll have numbers from Melissa shortly.

Did the SVG already get made?
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« Reply #119 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:28:27 »
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Did the SVG already get made?

No, but based on how complicated the moogle legends were she can give a good estimate of final cost, including setup fee.
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« Reply #120 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:29:23 »
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No, but based on how complicated the moogle legends were she can give a good estimate of final cost, including setup fee.

Ah yes, true true.
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« Reply #121 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:30:24 »
Interested in 2 Esc key.
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« Reply #122 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:30:34 »
Speaking of Melissa, there should be a Melissa appreciation thread.  Maybe we could pool a bit of money and send her something nice for dealing with all of us.
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« Reply #123 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:31:10 »
Quote from: hashbaz;439268
Speaking of Melissa, there should be a Melissa appreciation thread.  Maybe we could pool a bit of money and send her something nice for dealing with all of us.

A Melissa Keycap?
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« Reply #124 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:33:23 »
Quote from: ripster;439271
Not until my LOD and Awesome keys are fixed.
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Working on making it correct Ripster.
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« Reply #125 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:39:12 »
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Well I meant that I bought them in Group Key Buy 3 and keep getting the runaround whether fixed keys will ever ship.

Oh, I wasn't aware there was actually going to be a fixed-key set. But, then again, I didn't buy in GB3.
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« Reply #126 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:42:18 »
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It was so long ago the memories of it are starting to fade.  Started last year late Oct/Early Nov.

How is that possible? I thought GB3 was in March?
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« Reply #127 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:43:55 »
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Took a while for it to warm up.

Check the time stamps.

Yes, but any talk of shipping replacements would have needed the originals to have been shipped first, right?
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« Reply #128 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:51:58 »
Console yourself with a round of fake Cherry Escapes, rip.
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« Reply #129 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 21:02:02 »
Okay ppl, I got quotes back from Melissa.  The price breakdowns are pretty much like you'd expect.

REDESC
There's a $35 setup fee for the red Escape, and the following volume/price breakdown:

25 keys   @ $4.38 each
50 keys   @ $2.43 each
75 keys   @ $1.76 each
100 keys @ $1.44 each

We're pushing 75 keys already, assuming everyone follows through.

RGBY
Sadly there's also a $45 setup fee for both the ANSI and ISO left Shifts, since cycloverid's moogle kit didn't include left Shift.  These prices include a yellow Windows key (or other 1.25x key with a legend SP already has on file):

2.25x ANSI left Shift:
5 sets      @ $68.31 each
10 sets    @ $37.73 each
15 sets    @ $27.54 each
25 sets    @ $19.38 each
50 sets    @ $13.27 each
75 sets    @ $11.23 each
100 sets  @ $10.21 each

1.25x ISO Shift key:
5 sets      @ $47.67 each
10 sets    @ $27.29 each
15 sets    @ $20.49 each
25 sets    @ $15.06 each
50 sets    @ $10.98 each
75 sets    @ $9.62 each
100 sets  @ $8.94 each

I think we have something like 8 ISO orders and 20 ANSI orders so far.

I've updated the OP with this info.
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Offline Atenacius

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« Reply #130 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 21:30:01 »
At 75 keys, I would double my order to 4 Esc keys. Signature Plastic keys are thin and wear down fast, might as well have a couple of extra.
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« Reply #131 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 22:54:22 »
Totally interested in the esc.
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« Reply #132 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 23:10:35 »
How many?  One?
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« Reply #133 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 00:43:18 »
Hoping we can get to that 50 set price point for the RGBY ANSI... be willing to order 2 if it helps it get up there.
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« Reply #134 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 00:48:58 »
hashbaz: Interested in the RGBY ANSI kit given that the blue is darker then the one aggiejy's set, that blue was so light ;( The red and green was spot on though, maybe we can ask aggiejy which colours he used so we can fix that ugly blue, and if so in for 2-3 set

This blue is a nono
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For the yellow I'm thinking YY or YCH
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« Reply #135 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 01:00:49 »
Quote from: hashbaz;439529
How many?  One?
I'll splurge. 2.
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« Reply #136 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 02:48:53 »
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hashbaz: Interested in the RGBY ANSI kit given that the blue is darker then the one aggiejy's set, that blue was so light ;( The red and green was spot on though, maybe we can ask aggiejy which colours he used so we can fix that ugly blue, and if so in for 2-3 set

This blue is a nono
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For the yellow I'm thinking YY or YCH
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aggiejy's blue has really grown on me, I must say.  But yeah, the plan is a darker blue, more in line with vintage RGB sets.  Something like this:

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« Reply #137 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 02:50:04 »
Wouldn't it be cheaper overall to combine ISO and ANSI in a single kit, reaching a bigger volume?
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« Reply #138 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 02:53:08 »
Yeah I'll ask Melissa about combining the common keys in the two sets.  I described to her what I wanted to do, and this is what she came back with.  I assume that means it's the cheapest way to do it, but maybe not?
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« Reply #139 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 02:59:56 »
I don't know, I've never been good in maths. I see that there is a considerable discount over a bigger volume, so I was wondering, if we get to order 25+ kits with both iso and ansi shifts included they may end up to be cheaper than the separate kits in smaller volumes. Then of course americans end up with useless iso shifts and europeans with useless ansi shifts, but who cares if it's cheaper? :)
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« Reply #140 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 03:00:03 »
Day 4 is over.  Added 10-13 Escapes and no RGBs (though a couple of people mentioned they would buy more of one or the other if it helped push us into the next price bracket).

This brings the totals to between 65 and 80 Escapes, and close to 30 RGBs.  I was afraid there wouldn't be a lot of RGB demand with geekhack awash in aggiejy's sets.  It's looking like we're not going to hit the 50 set price point, which is kind of where it starts getting interesting to me personally.
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« Reply #141 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 03:06:47 »
Quote from: hashbaz;439623
Day 4 is over.  Added 10-13 Escapes and no RGBs (though a couple of people mentioned they would buy more of one or the other if it helped push us into the next price bracket).

This brings the totals to between 65 and 80 Escapes, and close to 30 RGBs.

Based on this it should be an easy target of 100 esc.
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« Reply #142 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 09:47:46 »
Quote from: hashbaz;439607
aggiejy's blue has really grown on me, I must say.  But yeah, the plan is a darker blue, more in line with vintage RGB sets.  Something like this:

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Since we got the colour issue out of the way, I would be in for 2-3 sets for sure esp since this is looking to go over 50 set point mark.

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« Reply #143 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 10:23:51 »
If only the above set had an extra alt in blue with the size of the yellow star I would order 2 sets!!!!!!! can we make this happen pleaaaaaaaase
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« Reply #144 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 11:17:39 »
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If only the above set had an extra alt in blue with the size of the yellow star I would order 2 sets!!!!!!! can we make this happen pleaaaaaaaase


Would that be for your choc mini's? If so I would be wondering if that would be possible too. (For the right alt key)

Either way I would be in for a set :-)
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« Reply #145 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 11:37:39 »
If there's enough demand for Choc-compatible key sizes, I'm more than happy to do it.  But I really doubt that it will be economical since almost everyone will want standard 2.75x right Shift and 1.25x Ctrl/Alt/Win.  I'd say it's looking doubtful even for ISO left Shift.
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« Reply #146 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 11:48:38 »
Interested in 1 REDESC and 1 RGBY ISO
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« Reply #147 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 12:09:30 »
Is there a way for SP to send me some plastic color samples and I can match them up as best as possible to the Cherry Corp RGB dye subs?
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« Reply #148 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 12:18:15 »
I've heard others say that they got their color samples for free.  You could just email Melissa.  Or I can, if you'd prefer, and have her send it to you.
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« Reply #149 on: Wed, 26 October 2011, 12:38:58 »
Quote from: BiNiaRiS;439804
Is there a way for SP to send me some plastic color samples and I can match them up as best as possible to the Cherry Corp RGB dye subs?

Maybe we could ask Sixty, I guess he's done this comparison already.

EDIT: I just PMd him.
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