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Title: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 11:33:24
Hey everyone, Gupgup here :)

Alright guys I've decided to go with RickyJ, and have been in contact with him about getting some switch stickers made!

Him and I are currently talking and are working on getting together to make this happen.

If we do get this going, we will have a huge option for colors.

I'm going to move this into the group buy section soon, as soon as me and Ricky get some details worked out!

Colors Available ATM

- Yellow
- Pink
- Light Purple
- Red
- Blue
- Dark Blue
- Green
- Teal
- Grey
- Gold Fleck
- Silver Fleck
- White
- Gloss Black
- Matte Black

These are what are available right now. Will Update once I hear of more.
Title: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 14 February 2013, 11:42:14
Are you looking to source them from somewhere (new vinyl sticker printed by new vendor) and do a group buy with that method? Or are you asking for contacts for the Korean ones?

Sherryton has started selling stickers from his stock too. Those are the same ones from the first group buy, in new colors.
Title: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 12:20:32
Are you looking to source them from somewhere (new vinyl sticker printed by new vendor) and do a group buy with that method? Or are you asking for contacts for the Korean ones?

Sherryton has started selling stickers from his stock too. Those are the same ones from the first group buy, in new colors.

I wanted to get the Korean ones in bulk and get some contacts that I could talk to!

Does sherryton have quite a lot, making this useless or could this still supply people that his/her stock couldn't?

Thanks acetrak
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 14 February 2013, 12:23:34
If the sheets are significantly cheaper or different colors than sherry's then I would do it, if not, it's not really worth it. (Don't want to be a party pooper)
Title: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 12:26:44
If the sheets are significantly cheaper or different colors than sherry's then I would do it, if not, it's not really worth it. (Don't want to be a party pooper)

Once I know who to contact and if they are willing, maybe I'll hold a poll for the most wanted colors and what not!

I will do whatever everyone wants as long as this gets going :)
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 14 February 2013, 12:41:45
Good luck in finding a contact. These contacts require some networking and most likely won't be found just because you posted a thread asking for it. To start, you might want an account on kbdmania.net and put yourself out there.
Title: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 12:49:50
Good luck in finding a contact. These contacts require some networking and most likely won't be found just because you posted a thread asking for it. To start, you might want an account on kbdmania.net and put yourself out there.

Yeah I've got one, I Pmd demik asking who he was in contact with when he was in Korea, I'm hoping he will be able to help me out.

Not sure what I can really do on kbdmania, as I can't look at the marketplace and most speak Korean :/
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 14 February 2013, 12:59:50
Pretty hard to source these directly. I've tried to make a thread on kbmania asking if they can help me out to get some, and said I'd return the favor somehow and still no response. You'll actually have to know someone to help you get it because randomly asking won't do much good.

But for what it's worth, it doesn't do much to the switch in terms of feel. You'll have to really pay attention to the bottom out to even notice the difference. Lube on the other hand, is another story.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 14 February 2013, 13:06:10
Stickering is a waste of time IMO, but if I modding a keyboard, I'm going to go all out even if it does take a little more time
Title: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 13:08:12
Pretty hard to source these directly. I've tried to make a thread on kbmania asking if they can help me out to get some, and said I'd return the favor somehow and still no response. You'll actually have to know someone to help you get it because randomly asking won't do much good.

But for what it's worth, it doesn't do much to the switch in terms of feel. You'll have to really pay attention to the bottom out to even notice the difference. Lube on the other hand, is another story.

Man my jnterest checks are having the worst luck.  I wish these were easier to get. I'll see what demik has to say and if that doesn't look good maybe I'll look at other ways to produce these.
Title: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 14 February 2013, 13:11:08
User RickyJ had some of these made locally to him in Canada. And SmallFry said he had the Korean pattern drawings. You might contact them to see if you could have some repros made and do a GB for them. I would buy some purple ones.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 14 February 2013, 13:11:09
Right now they aren't all that hard to come by:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40253.0
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 14 February 2013, 13:11:10
Have you seen this? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40244.0
Title: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 14 February 2013, 13:16:27
Thanks, Jocelyn. I'm on Tapatalk right now and couldn't post the link. :)
Title: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 13:17:05
Yes I have, and he said they are really thick. Again I was hoping to get the original Korean ones made again. And Alaric I didn't know how many sheets he had, as I stated earlier in thread maybe there wouldn't be enough to go around.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 14 February 2013, 14:09:07
I believe the first sticker group buy was at $4 per sheet and at originative it is $7. Just depends if people want it now for $3 more expensive compared to how long it will take to run a group buy and receive them from Korea or Canada. I can personally be patient because Phatnom, LZ-GH, GH60, etc won't be arriving for awhile.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 14 February 2013, 14:10:27
If you are  interested in more than stickers the cost difference will be eaten by the combined shipping from Originative.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 14 February 2013, 14:13:48
Thanks, Jocelyn. I'm on Tapatalk right now and couldn't post the link. :)

I was on Tapatalk as well. Oh how I love my Galaxy Note II and Multi Window :P
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: rindorbrot on Thu, 14 February 2013, 14:58:59
If they will be offered in orange color, then I am interested ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 15:04:18
If they will be offered in orange color, then I am interested ;)

I'm hoping to have a forum of the available colours, and the top voted ones will be what will be made. Probably top 3 or 4.

Hopefully they will be more unique of colors than the original red,blue,green,yellow
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 15:31:57
Alright updated OP, RickyJ and I are talking about doing this together to get a lot of people so cool colored switch stickers
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 14 February 2013, 15:40:54
Oh word? Lemme get dat holographic boyyyyyy
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 15:42:17
Oh word? Lemme get dat holographic boyyyyyy

Holographic switch stickers? That would be awesome..
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 14 February 2013, 15:46:46
Need metallic purple.

(http://i.imgur.com/4l5s8d8.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 15:48:36
Need metallic purple.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4l5s8d8.jpg)


I'm told there is a wide variety of colors available, more than he has said in his thread.

I'll update the colors in this OP as I learn of more.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 14 February 2013, 15:48:49
Need metallic purple.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4l5s8d8.jpg)


Just a nice purp. will do. Doesn't have to be metallic
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 15:51:31
Need metallic purple.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4l5s8d8.jpg)


Just a nice purp. will do. Doesn't have to be metallic

There is a Light Purple and a regular Purple available from the color choices atm.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Fri, 15 February 2013, 03:09:19
Hmm, just saw this thread! Didn't know you were trying to start a gb before seeing my thread, makes a bit more sense!

My own goal was to open a simple store so my gf can sell custom painted caps (and her specialty: custom pasties for the ladies), sell short run sticker sheets in a wide array of colours...with a catch! Since my gf has been on the long road to recovery from Leukemia for the last 9 years, I wanted a portion of each sale to be donated to the BC Cancer Foundation (http://bccancerfoundation.com/).  I hope you all can understand my position, donating to cancer research while making you guys happy via short order special colour stickers.

For a gb I'd still like to include a charitable donation for my efforts, in Geekhack's name of course. Gupgup can receive a bulk shipment from myself I'm sure, and ship cheaper than I can within the US. I'll try to get non-potato colour pics in the next few working days so you all can pick a few to run with.

Does this make sense? :)
Title: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Fri, 15 February 2013, 07:17:30
It sounds perfect! I love the donation idea, and would love to help out!

As far as the colors, that's a good idea too. If we could get pictures of all the ones available, then it'd be easier for people to fill out the forum and decide on the top 3 or 4!
Title: Re: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 15 February 2013, 07:34:17
It sounds perfect! I love the donation idea, and would love to help out!

As far as the colors, that's a good idea too. If we could get pictures of all the ones available, then it'd be easier for people to fill out the forum and decide on the top 3 or 4!

Oh that's easy. Light purple, purple, dark purple, and magenta purple :D
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 15 February 2013, 08:15:54
Oh that's easy. Light purple, purple, dark purple, and magenta purple :D

(http://i.imgur.com/wBQdA1O.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Fri, 15 February 2013, 09:35:36
He's got a full roll of a nice purple purple! He made sure to point it out yesterday, lol.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 15 February 2013, 17:23:29
Definitely interested.
Not really concerned with color, probably black, as it wouldn't show or conflict, but probably white as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Sat, 16 February 2013, 16:48:03
Didn't have time to measure all of his stock, but did find that some are 2-mil (0.002") which is too thin.  Hoping to get some time on Monday to sort through for 4-mil in stock, and see what colours are available to order in that thickness.

Someone asked for an install vid in my build thread, so I thought I'd post it here too. :)

Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 16 February 2013, 20:20:39
At this point in time, it'll be quicker to get stickers from sherryton. His store will be up in a week or two. But $7 a pop seems like a large profit margin. Doing a GB for these is a good idea of there are a lot of custom colors and price is a lot cheaper. If you've participated in GB's before, it takes months from the IC to get the item in your hands.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Sat, 16 February 2013, 20:30:11
Yup, and I'm still a few business days away from getting stuff finalized for my own direct sales. :)  Sherryton has put a lot of effort into providing goodies for us here, so buy his if you can't wait.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Tue, 19 February 2013, 14:53:05
Plan is to cut the stickers into sheets of 60 (either 6x10 or 5x12), so they'll fit into a regular mail envelope for cheap shipping.  Still sold per 120, for a full keyboard with spares.

4-mil greens in stock:

(http://i.imgur.com/vyn1Kr2.jpg)

4-mil blues in stock:

(http://i.imgur.com/V4f70xE.jpg)

Not quite "50 Shades of Grey"

(http://i.imgur.com/V6dHDEi.jpg)

Getting a catalog soon from the supplier of 4-mil, should be lots of colours to choose from!
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 19 February 2013, 15:43:49
Cool to see you guys are also running with this. I'm still waiting on a sticker sample so I can create my own layout and run them through my cutter. With the increase in shipping costs, perhaps we should look a doing a GB in several countries and coordinate shipping from each country?
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Gupgup on Tue, 19 February 2013, 15:46:10
Cool to see you guys are also running with this. I'm still waiting on a sticker sample so I can create my own layout and run them through my cutter. With the increase in shipping costs, perhaps we should look a doing a GB in several countries and coordinate shipping from each country?

This could definitely be done!
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Wed, 20 February 2013, 01:01:37
Should have done a contrasting colour for my full board test, oh well!  Here comes the Red Army!

(http://i.imgur.com/jMbLW39.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 20 February 2013, 08:50:54
The Korean's sticker file is on their website here. (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/tipandtech/5738196) Looks like they don't want us producing it, but we can ask them at least.
Note: KBDMania account needed, I am not going to publish the file here, due to their need of an account etc.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Wed, 20 February 2013, 12:24:10
Producing from their file, or...?
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 24 February 2013, 19:02:56
Settled on a few products for options, will get availability in the next few days.  Starting a 6-week course on Monday morning, so I won't have time to talk to my guy until the afternoons.  Big step is done though. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Wed, 27 February 2013, 00:53:06
Waiting for word back from suppliers.  In the meantime, I tested out a different grade of vinyl for the switch stickers, and also shimmed up the Vortex plate in my Poker (too thin).  The grade of vinyl that the hardly-visible purple stickers are is quite a bit different, definitely will not be using this grade for production.

(http://i.imgur.com/SCLZC43.jpg)

Another pic for kicks:

(http://i.imgur.com/8hDBVlL.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 27 February 2013, 19:44:39
That looks good!
Stickers I never understood colors since you can't see them, but that is cool looking.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: harrison on Thu, 28 February 2013, 08:40:37

Rick, that's a great video!  I apologize for not being able to have gotten around to doing anything with the beta stickers yet... I've honestly not even touched my computer at home in 5 days now I've been so busy.

What I can say, is that comparing these to other stickers, the tolerances are MUCH tighter.  Sure, you don't get that 'outline' around your switch, since the sticker isn't quite as large, but that's because they fit better.  If anything, I find them easier to install.  I'll get some comparison pictures this weekend.

were the samples 2mil or 4mil?
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 02 March 2013, 03:00:32
Hey if you guys are going through wit this, just a suggestion to separate them in groups of 1/3 of a sheet of paper, and leave a tiny bit of space between the groups so that these vinyl sheets can just be folded and shipped in a normal envelope for 46cents. Demik's old GB for these cost only $4 for the sheet, but shipping was $6 even in the US. That was a bit ridiculous since they can't be folded.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Sat, 02 March 2013, 14:16:20
I think I already mentioned that I was going to do them in sheets of 60 (sold per 120) so they'd fit in a regular envelope.  Cost me $0.63cdn to ship a set to Harrison to compare to his Korean ones. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 02 March 2013, 17:40:59
Ah did didn't see it mentioned. You have two separate threads on these same stickers so I might have missed it.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 03 March 2013, 17:23:22
I've tried to update both with progress, but I might have missed something. Regular letter mail to the US is ~$1.20cdn plus envelope, so shipping for a set or two isn't cost prohibitive. Haven't weighed a few sets together to see where the shipping tiers will be, and tracking will clearly be more. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: mashby on Fri, 08 March 2013, 08:24:45
Love your work RickyJ! Just posting so I can keep track and have my money at the ready.  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: RickyJ on Fri, 08 March 2013, 17:45:22
Sorry for the delay!  Been crazy busy in school for 7 hours, then going to work for 6 more.  Reminded my plastic guy this afternoon, he's going to call shortly. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: mashby on Fri, 08 March 2013, 17:58:16
No pressure on this end. It looks like your work is worth the wait.
Title: Re: [IC] Switch Sticker GB round2
Post by: badcop on Thu, 30 May 2013, 12:51:10
is this dead :(