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Title: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 30 April 2020, 16:06:52
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Hello everyone, I'm excited to introduce
GMK Masterpiece マスターピース

Where to buy?

ProjectKeyboard (https://store.projectkeyboard.com) (US)
MyKeyboard (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/gmk-masterpiece_286/) (Europe)
SwitchKeys (https://www.switchkeys.com.au) (Australia/Oceania)
iLumkb (https://ilumkb.com/collections/groupbuy/products/gb-gmk-masterpiece) (Asia)
Deskhero (https://www.deskhero.ca/collections/group-buys-upcoming/products/gmk-masterpiece) (Canada)

Cable: Zeuscables (https://www.zeuscables.store/masterpiece)

When?

Group Buy will be live from May 1st to June 2nd.
Estimate shipping: Q4 2020 According to GMK / Q1 2021 When delays are taken into account April 2022

Limited time opportunity to purchase a truly aesthetic, clean, unique and versatile keyset with 85 new molds for only $129 USD. This is by far the most unique GMK set that made it into Group Buy phase the traditional way, from ordinary Interest Check to Group Buy. Impress your friends and colleagues with this high quality keyset!

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Kepler giveaway! A beautiful board limited to 50 units by ProjectKeyboard for a GMK Masterpiece participant! For free! You will receive a Kepler spot for every order with a GMK Masterpiece Value (base) kit. Be sure to fill out this form (https://forms.gle/okJumUfMBjXU7bSk6) after your order.


Specs

Pricing

(https://i.imgur.com/RpCjUbn.png)


Colors

Blue: Custom Blue (RAL), White: WS1

Inspiration & Design

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(https://i.imgur.com/guE9fcB.png)

The inspiration for this set comes from the Japanese high quality craftsmanship. Japanese craftsmanship is handmade and created by people using skills passed down for generations to ensure only the best quality product - a true masterpiece. With that spirit in mind I designed a keycap set, capturing the unique aesthetics of the Japanese culture. The Katakana legends will give the set a very unique look, paired with a beautiful rich blue.


This will be the very first GMK set with Katakana only alphas and mods. So new molds will be created for this set. Because of GMK's limited offering of stock blue colours, this set will be using a custom blue (RAL). The Katakana legends are as you noticed not narrow as the Hiragana mono/sublegends and Katakana sublegends. Instead, the Katakana monolegends are wider to offer a similar look to the latin/cyrillic counterpart. They look like they came straight from GMK. The Katakana-only mods are completely new, my own creation, and were inspired by various old boards. I wanted a more consistent look for the keyset as a whole as the Kanji were left out completely. The keyset has traditional icon mods and text+icon mods, and I think this solution will satisfy nearly every person. I also included all keys for a true ISO and proper ISO Japanese layout (R4 ロ) unlike past sets with japanese legends. The layout was designed on the basis of today's Mac keyboards in Japan but without the JIS bottom row.
Example 1 (https://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4982/as-images.apple.com/is/MLA22J?wid=1144&hei=1144&fmt=jpeg&qlt=95&op_usm=0.5%2C0.5&.v=1496943883242) Example 2 (https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6643b9868c6b9e8dee790a72448664e9-c) Example 3 (http://s3.amazonaws.com/dotclue.org/kybard.jpg) Example 4 (https://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4982/as-images.apple.com/is/MRMH2J?wid=2000&hei=2000&fmt=jpeg&qlt=95&op_usm=0.5,0.5&.v=1520717502224)




Kits

バリュー VALUE Base

(https://i.imgur.com/5VUtq0R.png)

クラリティ CLARITY Icons

(https://i.imgur.com/yqGsefj.png)

プレサビング PRESERVING Spacebars & Ortho / Basic 40s

(https://i.imgur.com/o2Im9Rk.png)

ウェスト WEST Latin alphas

(https://i.imgur.com/XVjxZt6.png)


Renders

J80 by jer
(https://i.imgur.com/6Kz5fjb.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/4ofaa2K.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/CRIknl7.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/AJr4M6Z.png)


KBDfans KBD19x
(https://i.imgur.com/DLDR5FB.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/BPRARN7.png)

RAMA Koyu

(https://i.imgur.com/M5XFyYM.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/1rdJz0e.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/1oTfyNP.png)


KBDfans Tofu
(https://i.imgur.com/Ny4zXl5.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/RLjajAV.png)


HEX.3C. First render with english alphas and icons mods.
(https://i.imgur.com/GJHo92M.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Fz9bCM9.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/CcED1Et.png)


iS0 by Simon
(https://i.imgur.com/oGinMRs.png)

Deskmats 900mm x 400mm

ウェイブ WAVE

(https://imgur.com/yGb0XJz.png)

エンドゲーム ENDGAME

(https://i.imgur.com/uGlN6pa.png)

スクウェア SQUARE

(https://i.imgur.com/1wY4JQv.png)


Collaborations

RAMA x Masterpiece

ナイフ KNIFE

Get the tools of traditional japanese craftsmen on your keyboard made of finest brass. The shape is reminiscent of a tried and tested blade, or a chisel. You decide.

Gold PVD brass

(https://i.imgur.com/pfN9uI9.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/eXUbs12.png)

Black PVD brass

(https://i.imgur.com/dDxElSa.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/h6LGVPW.png)

マスター MASTER

Get yourself the spirit of a true skilled master on your keyboard.

Gold PVD brass

(https://i.imgur.com/KhfRgWt.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/KdoFCFW.png)

Zeuscables x Masterpiece

ライト LIGHT

(https://i.imgur.com/mA2FjD2.jpg)

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(https://i.imgur.com/CzkP5oF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xIgIfJX.jpg)


ダーク DARK

(https://i.imgur.com/43yEHn3.jpg)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/41627DX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nVoLLKv.jpg)


https://www.zeuscables.store/masterpiece (https://www.zeuscables.store/masterpiece)



Real lighting environment

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The blue shade depends on the environmental light. All renders were done with the same blue, RAL 240 40 40. The images below give you an idea of how the color might look like in sunlight, on your desk etc. All renders above were done with studio lighting. Most of the time, other sets don't offer renders with different lighting conditions to not confuse buyers. So have a look and trust me, the blue is just fantastic.

Direct afternoon summer sun. Notice the keyboard (J80) lying in the shadow
(https://i.imgur.com/nu4CJdB.png)

A beautiful workplace in the afternoon sun
(https://i.imgur.com/7pyEERj.png)

In your kitchen on a cloudy day (scene by JaeArtist)
(https://i.imgur.com/TOZEpv3.png)




Group Buy is live! Find your vendor above!

Interest Check thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103111.0

A Discord channel is available for updates and further discussion here https://discord.gg/xBUCEgq (https://discord.gg/xBUCEgq)

Thank you for your attention!

Thank you to everyone that helped and supported this set! This project wouldn't be possible with the help from the awesome community! Thanks to: 159 from ProjectKeyboard, Yuliaa from Mykeyboard, Stef from SwitchKeys, Louis from iLumkb and jerrolds from deskhero, Kate from RAMA, Oblotzky, Abec13, Dixie, Chokkan, Nasp, OneCreativeMind, JaeArtist, Simon, jer, uoma2, Kasterborous, Moridin, SoraNoTenshi, whole german keyboard community, everyone in the Masterpiece discord, the japanese community and last but not least every supporter of this fantastic set!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 30 April 2020, 18:36:33
Reserved
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 01 May 2020, 00:06:02
Approved :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Boy_314 on Fri, 01 May 2020, 00:14:28
amazing
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: 2003987 on Fri, 01 May 2020, 00:22:45
Whats the size of the desmat?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 01 May 2020, 03:04:57
Whats the size of the desmat?

Deskmat size is 900mm x 400mm
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: num on Fri, 01 May 2020, 04:13:16
I'm in. All sets look amazing and love the color. Great work!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: bukowski on Fri, 01 May 2020, 04:43:35
Will mykeyboard be fast enough with their storepage to get the double entry for the kepler?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: quickbrownfox on Fri, 01 May 2020, 06:28:26
Doesn't look like its up on ilumkb yet

Edit: It's up now!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: directheatedtriode on Fri, 01 May 2020, 07:24:25
Damn that KNIFE artisan is nice
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: KetchyKech on Fri, 01 May 2020, 08:36:25
In on Day 1 -- first time going in for RAMA artisan as well - excited!  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: arkaell on Fri, 01 May 2020, 08:45:59
Just got my order in. Good luck with the GB! Super excited for this set.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: timescam on Fri, 01 May 2020, 09:27:24
love the set
iirc that "if the set reaches a higher MOQ point the Katakana escape エスク will be added." is that still a thing?

Sent from my ASUS_I001DC using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 01 May 2020, 09:49:28
love the set
iirc that "if the set reaches a higher MOQ point the Katakana escape エスク will be added." is that still a thing?

Sent from my ASUS_I001DC using Tapatalk

Yes, that's the plan. 1x blue and 1x white accent
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 01 May 2020, 10:18:13
Any possibility of a R4 1u Fn key being added to Clarity if sales are high enough? Only key missing for a Tsangan layout using Clarity, Preserving, and West.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Arithmetics on Fri, 01 May 2020, 10:39:43
easy buy. nice job scammazing me for 2 RAMAs!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: bukowski on Fri, 01 May 2020, 12:00:28
I am in. Went for edit Value, deskpad and RAMA artisan. Lets roll the Kepler-Dice!  :p
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: lush_bunny on Fri, 01 May 2020, 17:12:23
Ordering in two days  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 02 May 2020, 13:25:02
(https://i.imgur.com/STQPJTu.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: switchnollie on Sat, 02 May 2020, 13:29:29
That's cool, didn't know GMK was doing the full JP mods now :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: speaktobrett on Sun, 03 May 2020, 04:28:31
I bought all three Rama caps :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: break on Sun, 03 May 2020, 11:48:49
Can’t believe it’s finally here! Now to decide on kits and RAMAs...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Techichi on Sun, 03 May 2020, 15:57:40
Beautiful Rama keys. I will most likely grab the brass one.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 03 May 2020, 16:27:36
That's cool, didn't know GMK was doing the full JP mods now :cool:

Because of the molds made for this set, I think. Should be cheaper to use in the future.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: DukeEsquire on Sun, 03 May 2020, 16:58:27
I just entered the giveaway, but the form never asked for my order number.

How is the raffle supposed to work since it says it's based on the number of base kits purchased?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sun, 03 May 2020, 18:39:27
I just entered the giveaway, but the form never asked for my order number.

How is the raffle supposed to work since it says it's based on the number of base kits purchased?

I will keep track by using emails. Make sure that you use the same mail with which you placed the order. You will receive a Kepler spot for every order with a GMK Masterpiece Value (base) kit. It's not based on the number of base kits purchased
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: yhs on Mon, 04 May 2020, 07:26:30
Count me in!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: //gainsborough on Mon, 04 May 2020, 19:31:47
I'm filling out the form, and I purchased 7v through NK, but I don't see them listed on the form. 


edit: holy **** I'm a moron.  God I'm buying too much stuff...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 20:18:50
I'm filling out the form, and I purchased 7v through NK, but I don't see them listed on the form. 


edit: holy **** I'm a moron.  God I'm buying too much stuff...

We've all been there my friend.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 04 May 2020, 20:46:48
I'm filling out the form, and I purchased 7v through NK, but I don't see them listed on the form. 


edit: holy **** I'm a moron.  God I'm buying too much stuff...

What is this too much you speak of?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: bisoromi on Tue, 05 May 2020, 22:54:28
Someone gonna buy this for their LZ-MP and make an r/ck post with the title “Masterpiece on my Masterpiece”
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Solotov on Tue, 05 May 2020, 22:57:36
Someone gonna buy this for their LZ-MP and make an r/ck post with the title “Masterpiece on my Masterpiece”

Damn never thought of this before. Now, I'm tempted to put this set on my MP  :))
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 07 May 2020, 08:11:19
We had a good start. Thank you all for the support ;D  We've already reached half of the MOQ.

Value / Base: 250
Clarity / Icons: 56
Preserving / Spacebars: 77
West / Latin alphas: 52

Wave: 106
Endgame: 133
Square: 22

Knife Gold: 79
Knife Black: 60
Master: 64


Now enjoy this stunning fanart by @kinterra_
(https://i.imgur.com/B4OHnBQ.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 07 May 2020, 18:11:10
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We had a good start. Thank you all for the support ;D  We've already reached half of the MOQ.

Value / Base: 250
Clarity / Icons: 56
Preserving / Spacebars: 77
West / Latin alphas: 52

Wave: 106
Endgame: 133
Square: 22

Knife Gold: 79
Knife Black: 60
Master: 64


Now enjoy this stunning fanart by @kinterra_
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/B4OHnBQ.png)



(https://i.imgur.com/Zb87yz9.png)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/NRUmn24.png)
<-- progress
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: heliar_mk on Sun, 10 May 2020, 19:52:54
I have a little worried about the dismatch of the custom color between the screen and the real world. Have you ask gmk to provide the color of this?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: lakeboredom on Mon, 11 May 2020, 04:01:50
Phew, I think this was actually my most expensive GMK order.. so far  ^-^ 
In for every kit, a deskmat, and 2 knife caps
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: bloodyxkatana on Mon, 11 May 2020, 06:54:57
Square deskmat gives me serious Louis Vuitton Damier vibes. I dig it. Really nice clean set.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: break on Mon, 11 May 2020, 11:10:15
I have a little worried about the dismatch of the custom color between the screen and the real world. Have you ask gmk to provide the color of this?

Sampling is a required process of keyset manufacturing nowadays, so I imagine Energie will spend time making sure GMK gets this color right.

In fact, he might have already? I vaguely recall seeing a sample on the #gmk-masterpiece channel in Project Keyboard’s Discord.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: heliar_mk on Mon, 11 May 2020, 22:14:15
I have a little worried about the dismatch of the custom color between the screen and the real world. Have you ask gmk to provide the color of this?

Sampling is a required process of keyset manufacturing nowadays, so I imagine Energie will spend time making sure GMK gets this color right.

In fact, he might have already? I vaguely recall seeing a sample on the #gmk-masterpiece channel in Project Keyboard’s Discord.
Although the sampling is a required process,I found some project‘s final color is not match the render one, like the gmk peach, the real one seems much more darker than the one on screen. So I think maybe we should get the final color sample before group buy closed
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 11 May 2020, 22:27:07
sets have been waiting more than a month for color matching pre Covid and unless it was ordered in early April along with incredible luck there’s not gonna be an actual sample before GB close.

It’s probably a touch darker than the render in real life. Lotta blue/purple sets go that way.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Wed, 13 May 2020, 14:42:17
Although the sampling is a required process,I found some project‘s final color is not match the render one, like the gmk peach, the real one seems much more darker than the one on screen. So I think maybe we should get the final color sample before group buy closed

I would like to kindly remind you that the images are 3D renderings and are for illustration purposes only. The final colors may differ slightly. I can recommend to buy yourself a RAL sheet sample if you are really worried about how the color will look like in the end. Even photos are not accurate. Only in real life you can see the colors correctly. Experienced GMK users know what I mean :D

I will use *insert custom blue* as reference and adjust slightly if necessary.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:31:38
I reached out Plastikschnittstelle and he was kind enough to do some renders for Masterpiece! Underneath is a terracotta tile, in case you wonder what that is. GMK Masterpiece on an HMKB-60 stainless steel (with stainless steel screws). The GB for the Heavy Metal Keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106072.0) is live!

(https://i.imgur.com/fyDo3dc.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/qe740ib.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/iHVtAqm.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/O99hiyE.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/nn3jV6f.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: bukowski on Thu, 14 May 2020, 04:00:01
Those renders are beautiful  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Mizuyoukan on Thu, 14 May 2020, 09:20:11
I joined the GB.

I'm a Japanese and would like to suggest on the legend for "caps lock" key. The base kit has two caps lock keys, but each key has a different katakana characters, i.e., "キャップス" and "キャップスロック".

caps = キャプス (It is rare to use "キャップス")
lock = ロック

I think that "キャプスロック" is more suitable for the kit. The legend is composed by two Japanese words. If you break it into two lines, "キャプス/ロック" may be better. Of course I understand that non-Japanese speaks don't care it and "キャップ/スロック" may be stable design in view of the character length.

And I noted that some important keys in ISO layout are missing.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 14 May 2020, 16:00:12
I joined the GB.

I'm a Japanese and would like to suggest on the legend for "caps lock" key. The base kit has two caps lock keys, but each key has a different katakana characters, i.e., "キャップス" and "キャップスロック".

caps = キャプス (It is rare to use "キャップス")
lock = ロック

I think that "キャプスロック" is more suitable for the kit. The legend is composed by two Japanese words. If you break it into two lines, "キャプス/ロック" may be better. Of course I understand that non-Japanese speaks don't care it and "キャップ/スロック" may be stable design in view of the character length.

And I noted that some important keys in ISO layout are missing.

Thanks for joining! :)
You're right, キャプス/ロック is indeed the better option because it can fit on the Caps Lock key without oddly splitting it up. And it can fit easily into given space. I'll make sure キャプスロック is used instead of キャップスロック.

Can you elaborate which important ISO keys are missing? I am an ISO user myself, and don't think (important) ISO keys are missing
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Mizuyoukan on Thu, 14 May 2020, 21:20:17

Thanks for joining! :)
You're right, キャプス/ロック is indeed the better option because it can fit on the Caps Lock key without oddly splitting it up. And it can fit easily into given space. I'll make sure キャプスロック is used instead of キャップスロック.

Can you elaborate which important ISO keys are missing? I am an ISO user myself, and don't think (important) ISO keys are missing

Thank you for your reply!

Sorry ISO keys are covered, while I'm not familiar with "proper ISO Japanese layout" which you mentioned. And I understand you designed without the JIS bottom row.

Ctrl. is of course the shorted form of control, but we don't have a short form of "コントロール" and never use "コント" for control key. "コント" means a comedy skit. Esc. is "エスケープ". Back space is usually "バックスペース", some times called "バック".I know they are too long for 1U key!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: kidviddy on Thu, 14 May 2020, 23:48:17
Hello Mizuyoukan,

Excuse my jumping in, and thank you for your input on the modifier legends in this set.  Like you, I am a JIS user and joined this community just a week or so ago in order to try to raise awareness of issues related to proper JIS support, as we are very much a minority!

As I see it, there are two parts to having good JIS support in a layout: the “alphas”, and the modifiers.  From the point of view of the alphas, there are three extra keys in JIS when compared with ANSI; that is ー, む, and ろ in a kana set like this one.  ISO has a key in the same position as む, and it also has an extra key on the bottom row, although in the case of ISO it is placed to the left rather than the right.  The key to the left of backspace, ー, is lacking in both ISO and ANSI.  I believe Masterpiece provides excellent support for all three of these keys.

The other side of JIS support is the modifiers: these are the 変換/無変換 buttons on either side of the space bar (英数/かな on the Mac), plus the 全角/半角 and ひらがな/かたかな buttons on the PC layout.  In order to accommodate these, the space bar must be made small enough to add two or three more keys on the bottom row.  Exacerbating this problem is the fact that every JIS layout is different! The Filco Minila / GH60 require a 3U space, the HHKB is I think 3.25U, the Archiss Maestro 2S is something like 4 or 4.5... the list goes on.  It is thus very difficult for keyset designers to support a full JIS bottom row.

Because of this ambiguity, I am still working on recommendations to give to designers with regards JIS modifier support.  I want to find a set of suggestions which will be useful for a wide range of JIS layouts but not require designers to add too many keys.  Until I can do that, I am focusing my attention on JIS alpha key support, which Masterpiece already covers very well.

Nevertheless, I have spent some time looking at the keys available in the Masterpiece kits and how they could be arranged for a variety of JIS layouts.  I would be happy to share these with you if it would be helpful.

I would be very interested to discuss JIS support with you further, as I think with the popularity of kana sublegends and monolegends recently it is starting to be taken more seriously. 日本語でも構いませんので、もし興味があれば是非、プライベートメッセージでご連絡ください!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Mizuyoukan on Fri, 15 May 2020, 01:17:14
Hi kidviddy

Thank you.

As I see it, there are two parts to having good JIS support in a layout: the “alphas”, and the modifiers.  From the point of view of the alphas, there are three extra keys in JIS when compared with ANSI; that is ー, む, and ろ in a kana set like this one.  ISO has a key in the same position as む, and it also has an extra key on the bottom row, although in the case of ISO it is placed to the left rather than the right.  The key to the left of backspace, ー, is lacking in both ISO and ANSI.  I believe Masterpiece provides excellent support for all three of these keys.

Yes, they well done for the three keys! JIS layout has too much keys even compared with ISO. The layouts image of ANSI/ISO/JIS is attached for other guys' easy reference (from Wikipedia JA).

The other side of JIS support is the modifiers: these are the 変換/無変換 buttons on either side of the space bar (英数/かな on the Mac), plus the 全角/半角 and ひらがな/かたかな buttons on the PC layout.  In order to accommodate these, the space bar must be made small enough to add two or three more keys on the bottom row.  Exacerbating this problem is the fact that every JIS layout is different! The Filco Minila / GH60 require a 3U space, the HHKB is I think 3.25U, the Archiss Maestro 2S is something like 4 or 4.5... the list goes on.  It is thus very difficult for keyset designers to support a full JIS bottom row.

Because of this ambiguity, I am still working on recommendations to give to designers with regards JIS modifier support.  I want to find a set of suggestions which will be useful for a wide range of JIS layouts but not require designers to add too many keys.  Until I can do that, I am focusing my attention on JIS alpha key support, which Masterpiece already covers very well.

Haha :)) Every keyboard or laptop pc has different layout! Especially right bottom area is the chaos!
When we set a programable layout, we assign Japanese modifiers with tap/hold function, eg. "変換" on tap and "control" when it is held.

Frankly speaking most Japanese people don't use kana legends, which is the legacy of word-processer era. We use the alphabetic input method, but have to switch Japanese/alphabets with using "半角/全角" key or combination of "変換" and "無変換". I have never used "ひらがな/カタカナ"!

As for the JIS bottom row, I think it is only way to replace right control, os or menu keys to Japanese keys. So 1U or 1.25U keys may be fine.

Nevertheless, I have spent some time looking at the keys available in the Masterpiece kits and how they could be arranged for a variety of JIS layouts.  I would be happy to share these with you if it would be helpful.

I would be very interested to discuss JIS support with you further, as I think with the popularity of kana sublegends and monolegends recently it is starting to be taken more seriously. 日本語でも構いませんので、もし興味があれば是非、プライベートメッセージでご連絡ください!

I know non-Japanese loves カタカナ, but I cannot understand :p As usually foreign guys loves a country's culture much more than its citizen!

I' ll send a pm to you.


 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: heliar_mk on Mon, 18 May 2020, 23:45:13
Any number update?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Techichi on Thu, 21 May 2020, 18:09:34
Grabbed the Rama cap in brass.  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 28 May 2020, 08:01:53
(https://i.imgur.com/TebvicW.png)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/ERnJGyi.png)
<-- progress
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: lush_bunny on Thu, 28 May 2020, 13:18:28
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TebvicW.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ERnJGyi.png)


VICTORY!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Hell-es on Thu, 28 May 2020, 14:09:49
Nice, grats on numbers
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Tib07 on Fri, 29 May 2020, 09:50:34
Can't wait to make my "zen" build with this.  :D

very excited
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: arkaell on Sat, 30 May 2020, 03:41:44
Congrats! Can't wait to get this set.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: j_RMT on Sun, 31 May 2020, 01:29:02
Yey! So excited for this set. Just ordered mine last night. Cheers! Hope to see more designs from you!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Genuine.Senpai on Mon, 01 June 2020, 16:41:41
Jumped in last second with a base kit + Endgame mat. I have a Rama Koyu and once I saw the render on the IC, I was sold.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: gunchi on Tue, 02 June 2020, 05:28:57
Thanks for running the set - excited and looking forward!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Coneree on Tue, 02 June 2020, 10:23:15
I bought everything for this set lol. Can't wait!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Turnstiled on Tue, 02 June 2020, 11:38:57
I just purchased the Base, Clarity, and EndGame Deskmat!  This is my first group buy for anything keyboard related, I am so excited :D

Edit: I am a little bummed that I couldn't secure the cable as the end date was yesterday as opposed to the cut-off for group-buy for the key caps being today. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: keyboardkrill on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:15:44
Probably my favorite set of the year. Bought the Base and Artisans. I cannot wait! Also, will the winner of the Kepler be notified or will it just be a pleasant surprise come mail day?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Tue, 02 June 2020, 18:04:35
Probably my favorite set of the year. Bought the Base and Artisans. I cannot wait! Also, will the winner of the Kepler be notified or will it just be a pleasant surprise come mail day?
The lucky winner will be contacted and notified.

Just a quick reminder: today is the last day to order GMK Masterpiece. Since we hit MOQ, all kits will be made! If we hit 1000 Base kits, that would be amazing. Extra keys, anyone? :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: jebbra on Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:23:55
Signing in here because I can safely slide in the buy on the last hours.
Almost missed it because my dumb brain thought this set run FROM June :-[

A very great set buddy, hope the colormatch process will be a smooth one!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: 915766648 on Wed, 03 June 2020, 15:32:59
any chance there will be a slot to join the GB. damn it i missed the chance
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: poolside on Wed, 03 June 2020, 17:34:01
any chance there will be a slot to join the GB. damn it i missed the chance

Some vendors close early, some a bit later. As I write this, it looks like you can still grab a set from ilumkb (https://ilumkb.com/collections/groupbuy/products/gb-gmk-masterpiece).
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Mon, 08 June 2020, 17:18:48
Finalized numbers! Extras included, all vendors updated

I want to thank everyone who joined and supported this set! Numbers have skyrocketed in the last days. We hit 1500 Base kits! As promised there will be an extra key: A Katakana Tab in the West kit so people who bought Base + West can fill 2 boards with japanese modifiers.

I will post updates and collaborations here. And of course I will also announce the winner of the Kepler


Value / Base: 1500
Clarity / Icons: 320
Preserving / Spacebars: 469
West / Latin alphas: 332

Wave: 578
Endgame: 674
Square: 153

Knife Gold: 362
Knife Black: 342
Master: 301


Edit: Deskmats and RAMAs numbers were without extras
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: gottadowork on Mon, 08 June 2020, 17:20:54
Wow the numbers jumped up quite a bit from the last update! Congrats!


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 08 June 2020, 17:58:40
More
Finalized numbers! Extras included, all vendors updated

I want to thank everyone who joined and supported this set! Numbers have skyrocketed in the last days. We hit 1500 Base kits! As promised there will be an extra key: A Katakana Tab in the West kit so people who bought Base + West can fill 2 boards with japanese modifiers.

I will post updates and collaborations here. And of course I will also announce the winner of the Kepler


Value / Base: 1500
Clarity / Icons: 320
Preserving / Spacebars: 469
West / Latin alphas: 332

Wave: 578
Endgame: 674
Square: 153

Knife Gold: 362
Knife Black: 342
Master: 301


Edit: Deskmats and RAMAs numbers were without extras


(https://i.postimg.cc/tTxZzMvc/GMKmasterpiece-Status200602fin-Wext2.png)

(https://i.postimg.cc/1z35MwXP/GMKmasterpiece-History200602fin-Wext2.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: kidpid on Mon, 08 June 2020, 18:12:03
I want to thank everyone who joined and supported this set! Numbers have skyrocketed in the last days. We hit 1500 Base kits! As promised there will be an extra key: A Katakana Tab in the West kit so people who bought Base + West can fill 2 boards with japanese modifiers.

I guess this means no Katakana Esc key then?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Tue, 09 June 2020, 13:15:16
I want to thank everyone who joined and supported this set! Numbers have skyrocketed in the last days. We hit 1500 Base kits! As promised there will be an extra key: A Katakana Tab in the West kit so people who bought Base + West can fill 2 boards with japanese modifiers.

I guess this means no Katakana Esc key then?

I proposed the idea to the vendors, but given how cheap the set was overall, unfortunately that's not possible. The decision is not up to me
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: kidpid on Tue, 09 June 2020, 14:00:25
I proposed the idea to the vendors, but given how cheap the set was overall, unfortunately that's not possible. The decision is not up to me

That's understandable. What about an icon Esc in the base kit?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: waterbear on Mon, 15 June 2020, 09:29:33
Did the keplar winners get announced somewhere? Have the winners already been chosen?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: break on Mon, 15 June 2020, 09:33:25
Did the keplar winners get announced somewhere? Have the winners already been chosen?

A winner was announced, Energie and PK contacted them, and then the person confirmed. So the Kepler raffle is complete.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: mvkoto on Mon, 22 June 2020, 12:06:43
looking forward to receiving the rama brass key! any chance if the artisan will be sent out earlier if that was all you ordered?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: chowder266 on Mon, 22 June 2020, 14:47:25
Will there be extras for the rama artisan?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 10 July 2020, 10:59:27
Hi everyone! I am happy to announce the first artisan collaboration!

Latrialum x Masterpiece

(https://i.imgur.com/2DZcca1.png)

Form opens in less than 1 minute. Check out their Discord or Instagram for more information

https://forms.gle/D1AJnfmAkBGG9VsS9

Edit: form closed
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 10 July 2020, 11:07:29
Will there be extras for the rama artisan?

Yes there will be extras for every RAMA

looking forward to receiving the rama brass key! any chance if the artisan will be sent out earlier if that was all you ordered?

Yes there is a chance the RAMA will be sent out earlier than the keyset. No promise though
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: ponchofreedo on Mon, 20 July 2020, 20:39:31
im still so mad i had to miss this one. any idea if there will be extras available?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: PantoneC on Mon, 20 July 2020, 20:54:05
im still so mad i had to miss this one. any idea if there will be extras available?

You can still get this set off project keyboard website under per-order for retail price.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: MrFixIT12 on Thu, 23 July 2020, 12:58:21
Will there be extras for the rama artisan?

Yes there will be extras for every RAMA

looking forward to receiving the rama brass key! any chance if the artisan will be sent out earlier if that was all you ordered?

Yes there is a chance the RAMA will be sent out earlier than the keyset. No promise though

Glad to hear this, wish I got in on the Black PVD knife cap
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: artophe on Wed, 12 August 2020, 11:21:13
Hi everyone ! Do you think this keyset would go well with Rama Works U80 Lake ?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Wed, 12 August 2020, 17:35:45
Hi everyone ! Do you think this keyset would go well with Rama Works U80 Lake ?

It looks sick with Striker so I don't see why not.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: newbie on Wed, 12 August 2020, 20:42:07
Hi everyone ! Do you think this keyset would go well with Rama Works U80 Lake ?

It looks sick with Striker so I don't see why not.

I think it's slightly lighter shade of blue than Striker, but I agree. I'd put it on my U80 Lake (if I had one.... *cries in corner*)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: artophe on Thu, 13 August 2020, 09:19:59
Hi everyone ! Do you think this keyset would go well with Rama Works U80 Lake ?

It looks sick with Striker so I don't see why not.

Hi everyone ! Do you think this keyset would go well with Rama Works U80 Lake ?

It looks sick with Striker so I don't see why not.

I think it's slightly lighter shade of blue than Striker, but I agree. I'd put it on my U80 Lake (if I had one.... *cries in corner*)

Thanks for your advices, I bought the base set on project-keyboard  ;)!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: speaktobrett on Sun, 13 September 2020, 03:57:06
Will there be extras for the rama artisan?

Yes there will be extras for every RAMA

looking forward to receiving the rama brass key! any chance if the artisan will be sent out earlier if that was all you ordered?

Yes there is a chance the RAMA will be sent out earlier than the keyset. No promise though

Any updates regarding this keyset?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: MicroPepega on Mon, 14 September 2020, 11:41:56
Any updates regarding this keyset?

Last I checked color samples were received and got sent for further testing (with science). In case you haven't, join the ProjectKeyboard discord for updates!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Moneydaviid on Wed, 23 September 2020, 13:05:29
In like flint
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: otakism on Thu, 24 September 2020, 00:59:34
I think I will get the pre-order for this kit, looks absolutely legendary.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: irohasu on Thu, 24 September 2020, 02:34:33
can't believed i missed this one :'(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Moneydaviid on Thu, 24 September 2020, 11:08:54
can't believed i missed this one :'(

Extras (value + preserving) are still available for pre-order on projectkeyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Rilow on Thu, 08 October 2020, 06:19:51
Any news on deskmats?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Cynnimun on Fri, 09 October 2020, 11:07:22
can't believed i missed this one :'(

Extras (value + preserving) are still available for pre-order on projectkeyboard.

Any news on deskmats?

Thank you both for responding to this thread because it gave me the chance to make a pre-order for this kit! Just getting into the hobby here and this looks like a great set!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: tonyjones on Thu, 15 October 2020, 10:21:45
What's the update on this, color matching phase?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: raptorex1212 on Thu, 15 October 2020, 11:00:23
Daaamn i miss this one  :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Techichi on Thu, 15 October 2020, 17:37:52
Received the Rama cap today...it's a beauty!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Thu, 15 October 2020, 18:04:06
These are beauty
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Bamboo238 on Fri, 16 October 2020, 01:40:16
Received the Rama cap today...it's a beauty!

Nice! Any photos? I'm curious to check it out
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Techichi on Fri, 16 October 2020, 08:36:57
Received the Rama cap today...it's a beauty!

Nice! Any photos? I'm curious to check it out

Here ya go. Sorry for the crap pics. My camera is on the fritz and my phone cam sucks.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Bamboo238 on Mon, 19 October 2020, 14:59:53
Received the Rama cap today...it's a beauty!

Nice! Any photos? I'm curious to check it out

Here ya go. Sorry for the crap pics. My camera is on the fritz and my phone cam sucks.



No worries, that's definitely looking good. Thanks for the pics!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: break on Fri, 23 October 2020, 09:14:26
I'm blown away by the weight of the Rama cap. It feels heavy in my hand. Great job, can't wait for the rest of the set.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: falzm on Fri, 30 October 2020, 09:53:06
Received the Rama cap today...it's a beauty!

Awesome! From which vendor/proxy did you get it?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Techichi on Fri, 30 October 2020, 11:01:51
Received the Rama cap today...it's a beauty!

Awesome! From which vendor/proxy did you get it?

Project
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: onefivenine on Sat, 31 October 2020, 15:46:45
Sample 1 Chart:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0012/3374/8043/files/GMKMasterpieceComparison01.png?v=1604176513)

Sample 1 Result:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0012/3374/8043/files/GMKMasterpieceComparison02.png?v=1604176512)

Round 1 sample turned out a tad dark and a bit red, we requested another round of samples. Will update when second round arrives :)

Tentative ship date: Q2 2021 (May-ish)

RAMA Caps: Orders that only had RAMA caps have been shipped. If you have not received them from us (Project Keyboard), please send us an email by replying to your order confirmation.

Deskmats: Production should be complete soon and will be shipped to us by sea. Will announce when we get tracking from the manufacturer.

Extras: (please refer to your regional vendor)

If you have any urgent questions, contact us at contact@projectkeyboard.com.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: noodleman on Tue, 01 December 2020, 23:59:33
are there any updates for the deskmats?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Tyson on Thu, 03 December 2020, 13:22:11
are there any updates for the deskmats?

Saw this image on instagram of someone using the Endgame mat. I definitely regret not picking one up!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHuV0tPHTV_/

Not too sure if this is a real mat though as it seems like the mats have not shipped out yet.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: 13db on Thu, 03 December 2020, 23:41:49
I signed up because of the mats and keys.  Pretty new to keyboard caps, is there a good chance to be able to pick one of the deskmats up on the secondary market/classifieds section?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Curin Derwin on Tue, 29 December 2020, 21:46:30
R2 possible?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: verity on Tue, 29 December 2020, 22:30:48
R2 possible?
Pre-order slots are still available at projectkeyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: sent-by-an-iPerson on Wed, 30 December 2020, 01:29:16
R2 possible?
Pre-order slots are still available at projectkeyboard.
Only for the Katakana legends. The other sets are sold out even for pre orders. I accidentally missed this so I’m up for R2.


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 30 December 2020, 07:46:37
R2 possible?
Pre-order slots are still available at projectkeyboard.
Only for the Katakana legends. The other sets are sold out even for pre orders. I accidentally missed this so I’m up for R2.


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Yes, re-run is possible for most GB, and the average waiting time will be 2-3 years.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: rinkaan on Tue, 19 January 2021, 04:34:51
Striker is a different tone of blue, and different legends, but similar vibes. I think striker R2 is running soon, maybe u can consider that as alternative

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: tonyjones on Sat, 30 January 2021, 09:15:23
so R2 samples arrived on 12/22 anymore updates after this?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: break on Mon, 01 February 2021, 23:53:02
so R2 samples arrived on 12/22 anymore updates after this?

According to the PK Discord server, nothing as of January 25th.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: LuckyLuckCA on Mon, 15 February 2021, 01:55:06
Anyone have any updates on the deskmats? Seems like the US vendors fulfilled them as there’s been a few circulating mechmarket on Reddit the past month and half, but no word from the Canadian vendor (Assuming the same for other regional vendors as well).
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Avidities on Mon, 15 February 2021, 13:21:56
Anyone have any updates on the deskmats? Seems like the US vendors fulfilled them as there’s been a few circulating mechmarket on Reddit the past month and half, but no word from the Canadian vendor (Assuming the same for other regional vendors as well).

Mats for Deskhero just came in last week and he should be shipping soon! According to his discord.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: oew on Thu, 18 February 2021, 15:23:30
Received my Square deskmat and the colors look really washed out compared to the render.
[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: RaiKami on Fri, 05 March 2021, 12:44:10
so R2 samples arrived on 12/22 anymore updates after this?

According the updates page on PK's website they requested round 3 samples as of 2/12.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: bnj2 on Sun, 14 March 2021, 18:21:30
Any updates?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: vheissu on Sun, 14 March 2021, 18:54:52
Any updates?
(02/12) Requested R3 samples
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: darthcapn on Tue, 27 April 2021, 02:36:38
Updates on PK website show 4/16 : requested R3 samples, by when is the manufacturing expected to kick in if the samples turn out right this time? And what would the expected eta look like considering the gmk backlog ?

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Turnstiled on Tue, 27 April 2021, 06:18:04
 :-*
Anyone have any updates on the deskmats? Seems like the US vendors fulfilled them as there’s been a few circulating mechmarket on Reddit the past month and half, but no word from the Canadian vendor (Assuming the same for other regional vendors as well).

Who do I need to contact for my deskmat?  It’s been so long I don’t remember.  I have yet to receive my mat so I would like to reach out and make sure I didn’t get stiffed.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Adelscott on Tue, 27 April 2021, 06:48:48
:-*
Anyone have any updates on the deskmats? Seems like the US vendors fulfilled them as there’s been a few circulating mechmarket on Reddit the past month and half, but no word from the Canadian vendor (Assuming the same for other regional vendors as well).

Who do I need to contact for my deskmat?  It’s been so long I don’t remember.  I have yet to receive my mat so I would like to reach out and make sure I didn’t get stiffed.
I log everything I buy in this hobby on Excel. Easy to keep track after years of waiting.
If you forgot which vendor it is, I suggest ctrl+F «masterpiece order» in your email client.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Pluto19 on Tue, 27 April 2021, 11:53:17
Who do I need to contact for my deskmat?  It’s been so long I don’t remember.  I have yet to receive my mat so I would like to reach out and make sure I didn’t get stiffed.
lol I'd suggest going to page 1 and looking at the OP to figure out who you bought from
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Havattack on Tue, 27 April 2021, 12:13:04
:-*
Anyone have any updates on the deskmats? Seems like the US vendors fulfilled them as there’s been a few circulating mechmarket on Reddit the past month and half, but no word from the Canadian vendor (Assuming the same for other regional vendors as well).

Who do I need to contact for my deskmat?  It’s been so long I don’t remember.  I have yet to receive my mat so I would like to reach out and make sure I didn’t get stiffed.
I log everything I buy in this hobby on Excel. Easy to keep track after years of waiting.
If you forgot which vendor it is, I suggest ctrl+F «masterpiece order» in your email client.
I just have a "receipt" folder in my email, that I keep all purchase confirmation emails in until i get the item or receive a tracking email.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: tonyjones on Tue, 27 April 2021, 13:57:18
Updates on PK website show 4/16 : requested R3 samples, by when is the manufacturing expected to kick in if the samples turn out right this time? And what would the expected eta look like considering the gmk backlog ?

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lol I've been looking every week since Feb, samples are taking forever to be sent. At this rate any new GMK sets moving forward have to be longer than one year wait now.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Project Keyboard on Tue, 25 May 2021, 17:34:23
Quick Update:

Hey everyone, our R3 samples failed acceptance range.  Our Acceptance range is <2.3 (DeltaEab).  We will be resubmitting for R4 Samples and will keep everyone updated. I have attached screenshots of the results. Please DM me with any additional questions.

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: lakeboredom on Tue, 25 May 2021, 18:12:47
Glad you are taking time to get the colors right! Could you post the physical samples? It would be interesting to see their progression.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: oscdawg on Tue, 25 May 2021, 18:48:56
Appreciate the update and your diligence with the color sampling! Well worth the wait to make sure everything looks great!

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: liquidvel on Wed, 26 May 2021, 06:47:58
Is this an already expired group buy or will this start in the future?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Eoen on Wed, 26 May 2021, 12:19:54
Is this an already expired group buy or will this start in the future?

Ran quite some time ago.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 26 May 2021, 15:09:45
Well, it's supposed to be a masterpiece. Willing to wait.
Am also interested in photos of the color samples.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: tonyjones on Mon, 12 July 2021, 16:16:15
What's the update on this?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: bnj2 on Mon, 19 July 2021, 20:05:48
Q3 2021 and still nothing... This starts to smell very fishy.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: lakeboredom on Mon, 19 July 2021, 22:36:32
What's the update on this?

Q3 2021 and still nothing... This starts to smell very fishy.

They're still color sampling guys, try reading the thread.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Havattack on Tue, 20 July 2021, 23:43:43
Q3 2021 and still nothing... This starts to smell very fishy.

LOL! Not even close to "fishy". Clean and pristine. Freshly douched in fact.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Eoen on Thu, 22 July 2021, 09:22:42
Q3 2021 and still nothing... This starts to smell very fishy.

Not really sure what your justification for this statement is. Set is running custom colors and (I think) new molds from GMK. Given all of the delays that they have across every other set that's ran in the past year and a half, this is just the status quo. Unfortunate for sure, but not even remotely close to being able to start making accusations against the runners.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: oscdawg on Thu, 22 July 2021, 09:59:35
Just wanted to say thanks to the OP for constantly giving us color updates. Appreciate the open line of communication

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: FamilyJoule924 on Thu, 22 July 2021, 18:52:42
i missed this set but hoping for an r2 or something similar from the op soon
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: cricket-alone on Fri, 23 July 2021, 20:33:43
I think this one is going to be really popular for many years
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: tonyjones on Sun, 25 July 2021, 20:49:13
I don't know why GMK doesn't just pause until they catch up with all orders instead of allowing vendors to keep placing orders.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Arithmetics on Sun, 25 July 2021, 21:30:06
I don't know why GMK doesn't just pause until they catch up with all orders instead of allowing vendors to keep placing orders.

if someone came to your house and handed you money every month would you tell them to stop coming?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: mr_foggy on Tue, 27 July 2021, 11:14:53
I don't know why GMK doesn't just pause until they catch up with all orders instead of allowing vendors to keep placing orders.

if someone came to your house and handed you money every month would you tell them to stop coming?

probably yes when my reputation is at play and I'm literally becoming a meme in the community.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Arithmetics on Tue, 27 July 2021, 11:51:09
I don't know why GMK doesn't just pause until they catch up with all orders instead of allowing vendors to keep placing orders.

if someone came to your house and handed you money every month would you tell them to stop coming?

probably yes when my reputation is at play and I'm literally becoming a meme in the community.

lol like they give a ****. sets hitting over 1000 MOQ every month no problem
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: vladimir108 on Tue, 27 July 2021, 12:04:20
lol like they give a ****. sets hitting over 1000 MOQ every month no problem

Same situation is everywhere:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107843.msg2956414#msg2956414
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107254.msg2947816#msg2947816
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106058.msg2915505#msg2915505
... still waiting

Explanation why GMK is late:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106058.msg3060142#msg3060142
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 27 July 2021, 12:58:48
Guys, there is a global shortage on ABS plastic. Case in point: there is a shortage of baby bottles. The bottle that my baby likes has been sold out for 3 months. At this point, she won't even be using a bottle by the time they come back in stock.

This is not some conspiracy at GMK. They want to put keycaps in our hands even more than we want them.
 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 28 July 2021, 02:40:26
probably yes when my reputation is at play and I'm literally becoming a meme in the community.
lol like they give a ****. sets hitting over 1000 MOQ every month no problem
and not delivering (unless you're mito/drop but that's a whole different can of worms). and precisely what I meant by "reputation at play".

Guys, there is a global shortage on ABS plastic.
sounds like more reasons to put commissions on hold. there's more custom sets still in production queue than the ones that got physically released.
I'm personally ok with that as I have no need of instant gratification from my purchases, but I can't blame or shame people that feel their trust is being abused.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: vladimir108 on Wed, 28 July 2021, 04:34:31
Guys, there is a global shortage on ABS plastic. Case in point: there is a shortage of baby bottles. The bottle that my baby likes has been sold out for 3 months. At this point, she won't even be using a bottle by the time they come back in stock.

This is not some conspiracy at GMK. They want to put keycaps in our hands even more than we want them.

15 minutes ago probably all Oblotzky Industries shop customers got email with clear and nice explanation directly from GMK CEO.

update: it's also available on Discord: http://discord.oblotzky.industries/
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Arithmetics on Wed, 28 July 2021, 16:28:00
probably yes when my reputation is at play and I'm literally becoming a meme in the community.
lol like they give a ****. sets hitting over 1000 MOQ every month no problem
and not delivering (unless you're mito/drop but that's a whole different can of worms). and precisely what I meant by "reputation at play".

Guys, there is a global shortage on ABS plastic.
sounds like more reasons to put commissions on hold. there's more custom sets still in production queue than the ones that got physically released.
I'm personally ok with that as I have no need of instant gratification from my purchases, but I can't blame or shame people that feel their trust is being abused.

evidence for their reputation actually being damaged in a business sense would be in the form of lower GB numbers which is not happening. So until that happens GMK has 0 to worry about. GMK has 0 reason, obligation, or motivation to not continue to take orders. more orders doesnt slow down their current queue either.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: lakeboredom on Wed, 28 July 2021, 18:07:51
Guys, there is a global shortage on ABS plastic. Case in point: there is a shortage of baby bottles. The bottle that my baby likes has been sold out for 3 months. At this point, she won't even be using a bottle by the time they come back in stock.

This is not some conspiracy at GMK. They want to put keycaps in our hands even more than we want them.
   
2021, google exists, and you still want to use a plastic baby bottle? Mind boggling  :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: tonyjones on Thu, 29 July 2021, 12:25:08
Even with the shortage GMK doesn't care, they will keep accepting orders from Vendor and it will just be backlogged. Money over everything AMIRITE?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: kidpid on Thu, 29 July 2021, 13:17:58
Even with the shortage GMK doesn't care, they will keep accepting orders from Vendor and it will just be backlogged. Money over everything AMIRITE?

It's difficult to fault a business, whose primary goal is to make money, for accepting payment from willing customers. I'd definitely consider it a bit irresponsible, but the blame falls mostly on us, the customers, for continuing to purchase GMK keycaps despite their enormous backlog and never-ending delays. We don't need GMK keycaps.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 29 July 2021, 16:31:41
Even with the shortage GMK doesn't care, they will keep accepting orders from Vendor and it will just be backlogged. Money over everything AMIRITE?

It's difficult to fault a business, whose primary goal is to make money, for accepting payment from willing customers. I'd definitely consider it a bit irresponsible, but the blame falls mostly on us, the customers, for continuing to purchase GMK keycaps despite their enormous backlog and never-ending delays. We don't need GMK keycaps.

exactly. and again its not like take more orders slows down their current queue so no one is going into this unaware of what theyre in for
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: tonyjones on Tue, 03 August 2021, 10:12:56
Just updated on ProjectKeyboard:

EST SHIP DATE:TBD

(08/01) Requested R5 samples. R4 failed acceptable DeltaEab.

So it took about three months to get the samples, so assuming on 12/2021 R5 samples arrived and approved, we'll see this ship around March 2022?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: grezeh on Tue, 03 August 2021, 12:02:18
I usually see 2-3 month, so could be faster, but really better just put a note not to forget the order.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: bukowski on Fri, 20 August 2021, 04:39:44
Wait, why would it only take 3 months after approval of samples? Wouldn't R2-Sets without the necessity of sampling ship super fast then as well?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: grezeh on Sat, 21 August 2021, 09:49:23
Oh,no, i meant the time between samples. The que and production are completely different and doubt anyone can predict those with any certainty. Only maybe the order/place in a que, if even that.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: tonyjones on Thu, 07 October 2021, 10:30:13
Any updates on the new samples?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Eoen on Sun, 24 October 2021, 09:20:26
Per an email from PK a few days ago, R5 samples had a delta of 2.05 and were accepted.

Set is finally moving into prod!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: rinkaan on Mon, 25 October 2021, 03:59:07
Didn't see any updates from threadstarter and the proxy site I ordered from. Will wait for official updates but thanks anyways!

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Adelscott on Mon, 25 October 2021, 12:29:52
Didn't see any updates from threadstarter and the proxy site I ordered from. Will wait for official updates but thanks anyways!

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This is an official update. It's from the US proxy

(https://i.imgur.com/ZD1b3zh.png)

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: dannyTheEngineer on Tue, 26 October 2021, 08:22:37
Is it still possible to order this set?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: rinkaan on Tue, 26 October 2021, 08:55:33
Is it still possible to order this set?
not possible, unless there are extras later on by thread starter
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: i luv chuletas on Wed, 17 November 2021, 07:43:22
Would it be possible to get the newest ETA on this from GMK whenever it becomes available?

To have it here in GH, I mean.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: recursive on Mon, 29 November 2021, 13:08:35
Would it be possible to get the newest ETA on this from GMK whenever it becomes available?

To have it here in GH, I mean.

+1. what's the latest here?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: tonyjones on Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:09:12
Still shows In Manufacturing
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: rinkaan on Fri, 04 March 2022, 08:14:34
Is there any updates on this gb?

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: tonyjones on Fri, 04 March 2022, 09:48:31
This might beat GMK Dracula on wait times
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: oscdawg on Fri, 04 March 2022, 10:47:46
This might beat GMK Dracula on wait times
Fine with me. I'd rather wait five years and get the right shade of blue than two years with the wrong color.

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 19 March 2022, 10:23:17
Hello everyone, the long wait is nearly over. GMK has started shipping the set and this means, vendors will likely start receiving their orders over the coming few weeks.

AND do not trust any taken photos. You need to see the colors in person first before judging color matching. They turned out great. A spectrophotometer was used to match the samples from GMK to ensure color accuracy




I wish you all a good time
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: i luv chuletas on Mon, 21 March 2022, 12:58:41
Hello everyone, the long wait is nearly over. GMK has started shipping the set and this means, vendors will likely start receiving their orders over the coming few weeks.

AND do not trust any taken photos. You need to see the colors in person first before judging color matching. They turned out great. A spectrophotometer was used to match the samples from GMK to ensure color accuracy




I wish you all a good time

Jesus Christ almighty Aleluya, I'm almost reading this with a beam of light shining through the roof and directly onto my damn screen.

It has been far too long, can't wait to finally get these!!!!!!!

*takes out the champagne*
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 22 March 2022, 10:09:27
Hello everyone, the long wait is nearly over. GMK has started shipping the set and this means, vendors will likely start receiving their orders over the coming few weeks.

AND do not trust any taken photos. You need to see the colors in person first before judging color matching. They turned out great. A spectrophotometer was used to match the samples from GMK to ensure color accuracy




I wish you all a good time

Here we go! Here we go! Here we go!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Adelscott on Tue, 22 March 2022, 10:42:57
Suddenly a tracking number appeared!

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Friendship on Wed, 23 March 2022, 08:25:04
are there any vendors that didnt sell their extras as early preorders? its hard to tell on some of them. i sadly slept on this and now ragret
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: mr_foggy on Thu, 24 March 2022, 06:30:25
are there any vendors that didnt sell their extras as early preorders? its hard to tell on some of them. i sadly slept on this and now ragret
IDK I hope mykeyboard sells extras in reasonable time, they're still holding on to frost witch extra go figure
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: productkun on Thu, 24 March 2022, 07:28:13
My Masterpiece came today

(https://i.imgur.com/78ehJW4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fOhtSrw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8908ZlS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Cf0lof4.jpg)

Comparison to stock colours:
N5 / GMK Masterpiece / V4

First 2 pics are taken with a Samsung S10+,
last 2 pics are taken with a Sony a6000 in just daylight.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Keeblet_257 on Fri, 25 March 2022, 16:35:46
love how this set went from Q4 2020 to Q1 2021 straight to q2 2022 XDDD
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: SwitchKeys on Sat, 26 March 2022, 03:33:15
If anyone would like to purchase extras via us, our sale will occur on Thursday 31st of March at 5:00pm AEDT. See you all there!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: phoenixrage on Wed, 06 April 2022, 16:01:52
how does this blue compare with blue cadet?

has anyone have both to compare? 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: MCsOrangeJuice on Sat, 23 April 2022, 13:34:46
I got my set yesterday, but there is a small problem. Duplicate keycap with the correct keycap missing. Did this happen to anyone else?[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: tootle on Sat, 23 April 2022, 16:56:39
I got my set yesterday, but there is a small problem. Duplicate keycap with the correct keycap missing. Did this happen to anyone else? (Attachment Link)

Reach out to support from the vendor you purchased from as sometimes GMK mistakenly kits the incorrect keys. They should have replacements for you.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 27 April 2022, 09:57:46
I got my set yesterday, but there is a small problem. Duplicate keycap with the correct keycap missing. Did this happen to anyone else? (Attachment Link)
happened the same to me with GMK Frost Witch. got two "<" and no ">". mykeyboard didnt give two sh!*s, only option was to return the set. hope you got your set from a better vendor.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: stix on Sat, 08 October 2022, 13:03:24
Anyone from the uk seen a set from mykeyboard yet?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: ThuAgweIC on Sat, 08 October 2022, 16:18:40
Anyone from the uk seen a set from mykeyboard yet?

This is what they told me when I query my order- “ your order is currently on hold and unfortunately the process to reship to the UK without reaching the threshold is still ongoing, however our VAT has been completed and we are at the stage of implementation.
due to restrictions, we are able to ship only orders with a minimum value of 187,55 EUR VAT Inclusive.
we advice customers to still wait for the UK process to be completed or add an item to their existing order to reach the minimum required amount.

please feel free and let us know how to proceed” your gonna have to either order more stuff to reach that threshold and suffer paying more import fees etc. or wait til they find a solution. It truly sucks haha
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: stix on Mon, 10 October 2022, 14:13:42
Anyone from the uk seen a set from mykeyboard yet?

This is what they told me when I query my order- “ your order is currently on hold and unfortunately the process to reship to the UK without reaching the threshold is still ongoing, however our VAT has been completed and we are at the stage of implementation.
due to restrictions, we are able to ship only orders with a minimum value of 187,55 EUR VAT Inclusive.
we advice customers to still wait for the UK process to be completed or add an item to their existing order to reach the minimum required amount.

please feel free and let us know how to proceed” your gonna have to either order more stuff to reach that threshold and suffer paying more import fees etc. or wait til they find a solution. It truly sucks haha

Oh F me.