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[IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL | GB details finalized [23/4/21]
« on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 05:49:12 »
Hi! On behalf of 43 Studio, I'm helping them to present Radiance to you all.
[I've noticed that a lot of people are mistaking me as the designer of the kit, 43 Studio should be the one who's taking full credit for the kit design, I'm just helping them to handle the IC, GB and logistic side]



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Greetings! I'm 43 from 43 Studio, a designer from China. Radiance is my second kit design, there is a lot of good fellows in the community, and it's only because of you all, I could be able to know more and indulge myself into this hobby. Thank you all in advance for coming in.

Without further ado, please allow me to introduce to you all the Radiance. Should you have any questions or concerns, feel free to leave a comment.
[Jeff will help collect all the questions, concerns and feedback, I will answer them all]

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Radiance, as the name suggests it means radiating light, it is a 80% TKL, adopting the common top mount design with a typing angle of 7 degree. Despite the it looks complex, the ability to customize your board is very high.

First off, the design language. We adopt the blunt, pronounce style instead of a sleek and seamless thin bezel design. A lot of customizable modules were added to the design, as well as RGB elements, which will be introduced in the following. In Oct of 2019, an early prototype was made, but I felt like there was something missing, after half year of daily use, I kept on amending the design and placing orders for rounds of prototypes; accumulating a total of 5 both the kit and PCB prototypes. Now it is finally in a shape where I wanted it to be at. The group buy for China has concluded on 1st July this year, and I would like to take the opportunity here to thank you those who joined the group buy.


Kit design
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The internal structure, we adopt the common top mount system, which provides stability to holding the parts together in a robust manner, as well as providing a typing experience that we all are familiar with. By offering transparent 3mm custom rubber pad in between internals and bottom case, it not only could serve as a tool to neutralize one of the most common problems in top mount cases - the hollow sound when bottoming out switches, but also it could serve as a light diffuser, elegantly radiating the light in a softer and soothing fashion.

As for the surface finish, we are offering anodized and e-coat surface finish. I would also like to especially point out that Radiance's E-White will be undergoing a MAO procedures before e-coating it, making the surface silky smooth, and the white will also be brighter than ordinary E-White. Other than these 2 common surface finish, we also provide PVD mirror polished surface finish; all of which will be undergone in a well experienced factory and I will also be checking in personally from time to time to make sure the quality of work is up on par.




Dissection of Radiance



The 4 accent bars on the top left corner are all independent, you could purchase extra accent bars, or exchange yours with your friends to customize the board to suit your own taste. Given the options available for pick up, the possibilities are endless. Imagine the ability to swap the accent bar to accommodate to your keyset, matching the theme as a whole board, that's the crux of custom board!

Rear of the Radiance, there comes the backplate; at the edge of the backplate, those are taillight of Radiance, also where the RGB light shines through. The design philosophy of it goes without saying, the pieces just perfectly blend into the case, integrating, complimenting each other in a nice,  subtle way and that's what the Radiance is about.

Top case of the Radiance, there are 3 holes sitting aside the "Up Arrow", which can be used as a light accents or you could fill it up with a block of metal accent; the choice is yours. Both of the light diffuser and metal accent (brass clear PVD mirror polished) will be provided in the kit.



TLDR spec sheet + surface finish options









Supported bottom layout



WK
1.5/1/1.5/7/1.5/1/1.5
1.25/1.25/1.25/6.25/1.25/1.25/1.25/1.25

S-WKL
1.25/1.25/1.25/6.25/1.25/1.25/1.25

WKL
1.5/1.5/7/1.5/1.5



IRL pictures













Render
thank you render-man Kingk22 for these amazing renders

| Red PVD Mirror Polished | GMK Red Classic | S-WKL |




| Black Ano | GMK Monochrome | WKL |




| PC | GMK Serika | WK |






Typing Demo

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12A411v7Hc
| Stock Obsidian switch w/ film | JWK Stabilizers |



Packaging

Big carrying case cancelled due to unrealistically topped shipping fee, it will be replaced with keyboard box.



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Progress

- Initiate IC
- Collect feedbacks
- GB details finalization
- Start of GB

Update Progress:

1st Aug: Initiate IC
2nd Aug: Amend Spec sheet --- no ISO/Split Backspace support | Add prototype | Add bottom layout support
10th Aug: Amend Spec sheet --- yes ISO support | Add Typing Demo | Add Packaging pics
22nd Aug: Amend Spec sheet --- yes QMK PCB | Add potential NA/CA vendor | Add FAQ section
21st Apr: Finalized GB details | GB initiating soon | Added IRL pics
23rd Apr: Updated on details

FAQ:

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Will there be dyed-color PC case?

No.

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Will there be PVD mirror polished case?

No.
« Last Edit: Fri, 23 April 2021, 03:38:59 by senryo »

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 05:49:35 »
FAQ

Two things I'm concerned with. In some renders there is a Radiance logo on the top plate; is that going to be in the final layout? I'd enjoy the board much more with no top plate logo. Also in the first three set of renders the second angle shows that the top plate doesnt fully cover the back plate, leaving additional space under the board. However the prototypes look like the top plate does fully cover all the way up to the back plate which I like way more.

Lastly, since this case does not support other 87PCBs, is there an option of getting the December QMK PCB along with this order or are the plans just to ship without QMK and people who want it just have to order separately in December.

Radiance logo will not be on the top case in the final product.

Top case will fully cover the bottom case.

QMK powered PCB will now be offered in with the standard kit, shipped together.

Seems Matrix inspired for sure.  The weight design doesn't fit the rest of the look in my eyes.  I would prefer to see something more simple/geometric that fits the rest of the design.

I second this, Weight design looks out of place. Kind of reminds me of the think 6.5 badge.

43 believes that the gear will help portray better presentation of back logo illumination.

https://i.imgur.com/X3O7SdE.mp4

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Will there be an option for PC bottom case?

Yes.

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How does the RGB look like?

https://i.imgur.com/m2sv91C.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/e1RKBVx.mp4

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Will you provide plate file so we can make our own plate in the future?

Yes.

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What will hotswappable PCB support?

Only supports bottom WKL, ANSI layout.
« Last Edit: Sat, 22 August 2020, 11:15:29 by senryo »

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 05:56:14 »
Yes

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 06:11:52 »
 :eek:

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 06:15:14 »
Very interesting design language, I’m excited to see some real-world examples of how light diffuses.
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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 06:22:56 »
My interest is checked ✅

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 06:56:47 »
Any idea what would be the rough weight of this keyboard?

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 06:57:53 »
NOOOOO! another Senryo board. I love it!


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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 07:18:03 »
Nice to see this on GH. Saw your initial posts on the Chinese zF forums and thought it looked really cool.

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 07:35:07 »
Dang, this sounds pretty neat and looks pretty dope! What’s the firmware for this PCB? QMK?

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 08:04:53 »
Looks excellent! It's nice to see a truly unique keyboard; I feel like lately there have been a lot of very similar 65% and TKL variants. I'm super excited for all the customization

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 08:13:04 »
Really interested in seeing the mirror and green finishes, very interested in this kit  :thumb:

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 08:41:45 »
Would love to see more renders, including one comparing the silver color that are anodized and mirrored

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 08:45:27 »
NOOOOO! another Senryo board. I love it!

Just to clarify, this is a 43 Studio design
I have nothing to do with their design besides helping to proxy/sort out the international orders for them.
Thank you for the support tho  :-*.

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 09:11:33 »
Looking really good :thumb:

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 09:24:17 »
Looks awesome ! Count me in ! GLWIC

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 10:03:29 »
I wasn't looking for a TKL, but now I am. Really liking this design!  :)



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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 10:12:08 »
this looks dope

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 10:25:02 »
you had me at WKL :D


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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 10:43:59 »
The renders without the 'Radiance' engravings above the arrows look much cleaner and I hope this transfers to the final version.

The 'Unique' engraving on the back also looks unnecessary and would take away the beauty of the back weight.

I believe the unique placements of the accents already give the name and extra engravings would look tacky and ruin the aesthetic.

If you promise to be able to QC these properly (given the unlimited GB nature), I will definitely be in.




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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 12:11:03 »
look forward to the future updates of this board :thumb:

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 14:47:24 »
Pink pls

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 16:20:36 »
That design rocks. Color options are very interesting too. Definitely in for that one.

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 18:06:33 »
Seems Matrix inspired for sure.  The weight design doesn't fit the rest of the look in my eyes.  I would prefer to see something more simple/geometric that fits the rest of the design.

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 18:16:51 »
I'm gonna take a poke at the weight/back design also. Wondering how the word radiance fits with gears or cogs. Radiance sounds more like sunbeams shining down or out from something.

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 18:30:10 »
plsssss change the USB port to either the left or center and it will make it perfect

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 18:55:31 »
This looks neat. So, do you plan to have vendors or do it yourself?

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 01:55:35 »
I'm answering all the questions on behalf of 43.  ;D

Very interesting design language, I’m excited to see some real-world examples of how light diffuses.

Prototype pictures added.

Dang, this sounds pretty neat and looks pretty dope! What’s the firmware for this PCB? QMK?

B-Face.

Any idea what would be the rough weight of this keyboard?

Fully assembled aluminium case is around 4kg.

The renders without the 'Radiance' engravings above the arrows look much cleaner and I hope this transfers to the final version.

The 'Unique' engraving on the back also looks unnecessary and would take away the beauty of the back weight.

I believe the unique placements of the accents already give the name and extra engravings would look tacky and ruin the aesthetic.

If you promise to be able to QC these properly (given the unlimited GB nature), I will definitely be in.

There will be no engraving on top of the arrow.
Thank you for your suggestion.

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 03:24:40 »

Fully assembled aluminium case is around 4kg.



AM I reading that right? 4kg fully built?! This is going to be a rock-solid beast  :eek: . This is amazing!!! Also no green-colored prototypes yet?

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 03:51:38 »
i can't wait to get in on that purple. looks awesome so far. your mother and i are glad of you son.

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 04:39:54 »
i can't wait to get in on that purple. looks awesome so far. your mother and i are glad of you son.


Hooooooooold up, WAT?? Father has joined the chat?  :D

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 09:21:15 »

Dang, this sounds pretty neat and looks pretty dope! What’s the firmware for this PCB? QMK?

B-Face.


yikes.

not using QMK in 2020.  :-X

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 10:39:43 »
At first I wasn't sure about the design direction. But the black dye polycarbonate proto looks beautiful. However, no QMK or ISO support is a no go for me. 
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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 11:35:09 »
Yeah, no QMK support turns me right off.
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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 11:47:37 »
does the case support standard 87 PCB like the hiney h87 (usb-c/mini-b) or the infinity 87 from mechlovin?

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:07:06 »
This design is crazy and different. Certainly a fan and watching.

Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:31:53 »
The black PC looks really nice.

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Re: 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 18:37:16 »
Seems Matrix inspired for sure.  The weight design doesn't fit the rest of the look in my eyes.  I would prefer to see something more simple/geometric that fits the rest of the design.

I second this, Weight design looks out of place. Kind of reminds me of the think 6.5 badge.
« Last Edit: Mon, 03 August 2020, 12:49:45 by wholypantalones »

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 22:08:52 »
What materials will be offered for the plates? could not find information on that.
Also, is it dual 3mm foams or just 1 piece?
And will there be a build stream or typing test of any sorts before the GB starts?

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 00:10:51 »
Definitely will be looking out for this one.

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 00:44:03 »
Will PCB support ISO / split backspace ? Then with provided .dxf plate files one could make their own.

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 05:55:36 »
The black dyed PC case looks stunning.  Will there be ISO support along with the WKL.  If so please count me in for sure.  Great looking board my friend, well done.
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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 06:01:49 »
As some have said before me keen to see more renders - hoping the Red polished won't have pink side panels?

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 04:17:23 »
+1 for QMK!

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 08 August 2020, 04:11:23 »
Very interested, is there a discord group so we can keep up better with the development of this board?

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 08 August 2020, 04:22:10 »
forgive me if its already in the description but have you guys thought about what plate options there will be?
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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 09 August 2020, 11:37:32 »
What materials will be offered for the plates? could not find information on that.
Also, is it dual 3mm foams or just 1 piece?
And will there be a build stream or typing test of any sorts before the GB starts?

Comes with PVD Mirror Polished Brass plate
1 piece
Added to the #1


Yeah, no QMK support turns me right off.

At first I wasn't sure about the design direction. But the black dye polycarbonate proto looks beautiful. However, no QMK or ISO support is a no go for me. 


Dang, this sounds pretty neat and looks pretty dope! What’s the firmware for this PCB? QMK?

B-Face.


yikes.

not using QMK in 2020.  :-X

Will PCB support ISO / split backspace ? Then with provided .dxf plate files one could make their own.

does the case support standard 87 PCB like the hiney h87 (usb-c/mini-b) or the infinity 87 from mechlovin?

The black dyed PC case looks stunning.  Will there be ISO support along with the WKL.  If so please count me in for sure.  Great looking board my friend, well done.

+1 for QMK!

- QMK PCB will be available on December as extras
- ISO / split shift support (communication error before, it should be supported)


As some have said before me keen to see more renders - hoping the Red polished won't have pink side panels?

It should be just lighting issue, mirror polished finish will reflect red instead of pinkish red

Very interested, is there a discord group so we can keep up better with the development of this board?

https://discord.gg/2MRrdPW

forgive me if its already in the description but have you guys thought about what plate options there will be?

Brass / Aluminium
« Last Edit: Sun, 09 August 2020, 11:39:10 by senryo »

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL | 10 Aug update
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 09 August 2020, 11:44:48 »
The packaging contents are top notch!  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL | 10 Aug update
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 10 August 2020, 11:35:40 »
interested!
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Re: [IC] 43 Studio - Radiance TKL
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 10 August 2020, 12:07:37 »
does the case support standard 87 PCB like the hiney h87 (usb-c/mini-b) or the infinity 87 from mechlovin?

I am also curious about this, standard PCBs are great as it makes finding one down the road less of a hassle.