Author Topic: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit (Read 176183 times)

litster · « **Reply #950 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:34:16 »

If you don't, you should be. I gave you **** for your non-stepped, off-center stem capslock. And tsangan and hashbaz are my buddies. Your enemy's buddy is your enemy.

The_Ed · « **Reply #951 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:45:21 »

You gave me flak for 1 thing. Big deal. Both you and Hashbaz are alright in my book, same goes for ripster.

litster · « **Reply #952 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:51:05 »

:grouphug:

hashbaz · « **Reply #953 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:52:11 »

Quote from: The_Ed;547532

You gave me flak for 1 thing. Big deal. Both you and Hashbaz are alright in my book, same goes for ripster.

Reptile · « **Reply #954 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 02:35:44 »

Quote from: The_Ed;547484

I don't even know who/what Kony is. Tsangan is #1 on my list.

What did he do?

Grond · « **Reply #955 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 04:40:22 »

I got them today – at last!

RGB and ESC look amazing! Now I'm looking forward to the new yellow and Moogle kit 3!
Thanks again for the great job!

hashbaz · « **Reply #956 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 08:52:45 »

Quote from: Grond;547633

I got them today – at last! RGB and ESC look amazing! Now I'm looking forward to the new yellow and Moogle kit 3!
Thanks again for the great job!

Wow that took forever. Glad you like them!

Mysteric · « **Reply #957 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 10:57:40 »

I was extremely surprised at how fast mine arrived, think it was 3 or 4 days from US to UK

Still waiting on my keypuller from qtan; It's been 10 working days and no sign yet

lightsout714 · « **Reply #958 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 10:58:46 »

Quote from: Mackem;547840

I was extremely surprised at how fast mine arrived, think it was 3 or 4 days from US to UK Still waiting on my keypuller from qtan; It's been 10 working days and no sign yet

Stuff can be pretty slow from qtan, it will get there though.

Mysteric · « **Reply #959 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 11:00:08 »

Quote from: lightsout714;547842

Stuff can be pretty slow from qtan, it will get there though.

Yeah, I know, I'm just anxious for it to come so I can finally remove all of the keycaps properly, give it a good clean and put my RGBY kit on, faux Esc key and my novelty keys

The_Ed · « **Reply #960 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 23:54:01 »

Quote from: ripster;547480

Kony?

Is this Kony?

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/16/10721745-report-invisible-children-co-founder-detained-by-police-charity-made-kony-2012-video

hashbaz · « **Reply #961 on:** Mon, 19 March 2012, 16:26:06 »

Just got word back from Melissa. Turns out cycloverid and I are both right, ha! The Esc key is not 0.018", but it's also probably slightly thicker than 0.015".

Turns out the 's' in the Esc key came out as a blob at 0.018" so they bumped it down, probably to 0.017" or 0.016". I responded asking her if there's a way to be sure which cutter was actually used. She also reiterated that at the small gradations of scale we're talking about, the cutting and molding process is not exact enough to map a 0.01X" cutter to a final key line width measuring 0.01X".

hashbaz · « **Reply #962 on:** Mon, 19 March 2012, 16:43:18 »

Quote from: ripster;550826

Whatever happened to these then. Melissa's error or ours?
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I mean, if the font's line width changes randomly how can we get Signature Plastics Key Round 10 to be perfect?

The Control keys in your picture are from the second round moogle set, which was 0.020". That is clearly too thick, even given the variability of the cut/mold processes. So I call that our error, though error isn't really the right word. We've learned a lot about this process between moogle2 and RGBY. Hopefully moogle3 will be as good as we can get with SP's process.

hashbaz · « **Reply #963 on:** Mon, 19 March 2012, 22:49:54 »

FWIW here is a scan of the photocopy I made. It's pretty clear from this image that the final key's legend is both thicker and larger.

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edit: that's what she said

The_Ed · « **Reply #964 on:** Mon, 19 March 2012, 23:01:27 »

Is it just me or does the "s" look completely different?

hashbaz · « **Reply #965 on:** Mon, 19 March 2012, 23:18:42 »

Yeah it does. I bet cycloverid tweaked it when he scaled the SVG larger after the prototype was done.

Grond · « **Reply #966 on:** Tue, 20 March 2012, 16:47:23 »

Talking about the matte finishing – I bet someone wrote about this before – I noticed it changes a lot from key to key. On my set, Esc and right shift seem to be the roughest, while control, alt and super seem to be much smoother. I'm not complaining about this, as it's hardly noticeable until you touch the keys, I just wonder why?

dorkvader · « **Reply #967 on:** Tue, 20 March 2012, 18:45:13 »

Hmm, I just realized ESC is rough, too. For me, both (ansi) shifts are rougher than the modifiers. are you ISO?

I really like the rougher keys.

cycloverid · « **Reply #968 on:** Tue, 20 March 2012, 23:15:21 »

I definitely tweaked the final ESC SVG a bit, including possibly scaling the legends up in size (it's all a little hazy to me now).

To me, the thicknesses look basically the same when inverting the black legends:

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hashbaz · « **Reply #969 on:** Tue, 20 March 2012, 23:34:13 »

Um, yeah. Turns out you were right all along. Melissa told me today that they ended up going with the 0.015" cutter rather than 0.016" like she thought before. Annoying that she didn't tell me this earlier. I think I will ask for the Enter prototype for moogle3 in 0.016".

The_Ed · « **Reply #970 on:** Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:05:26 »

I'm betting that the closest to cherry will be .016" or .017".

hashbaz · « **Reply #971 on:** Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:07:41 »

The bummer, though, is that if we go for fatter legends on the new moogle keys, the RGBY Ctrl/Alt/Shift legends will look different. :-|

The_Ed · « **Reply #972 on:** Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:09:29 »

Yes but if the new keys finally nail cherry thickness they won't have to be redone for moogle 4. The RGBY keys would be the only ones that would have to be redone for moogle 4.

mkawa · « **Reply #973 on:** Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:10:00 »

this is a problem that seems like it should be addressed when/if it actually bugs someone

The_Ed · « **Reply #974 on:** Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:11:32 »

The legend thicknesses have already been bugging people. There are probably a few hundred posts about it...

hashbaz · « **Reply #975 on:** Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:21:33 »

Quote from: The_Ed;552117

Yes but if the new keys finally nail cherry thickness they won't have to be redone for moogle 4. The RGBY keys would be the only ones that would have to be redone for moogle 4.

But in the meantime moogle3 is sullied with inconsistent legends.

mkawa · « **Reply #976 on:** Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:28:56 »

Quote from: The_Ed;552119

The legend thicknesses have already been bugging people. There are probably a few hundred posts about it...

(and not just people with asperger's...)

The_Ed · « **Reply #977 on:** Wed, 21 March 2012, 00:36:52 »

Quote from: mkawa;552139

(and not just people with asperger's...)

Unless hashbaz and cycloverid also have aspergers...

Grond · « **Reply #978 on:** Wed, 21 March 2012, 05:28:09 »

Quote

Hmm, I just realized ESC is rough, too. For me, both (ansi) shifts are rougher than the modifiers. are you ISO?

I really like the rougher keys.

Yes, ISO left shift is not as rough as the right one. And I also prefere the rougher keys, I think they will take longer to wear out.

hashbaz · « **Reply #979 on:** Wed, 21 March 2012, 06:28:13 »

My guess is that ISO left shift is the same mold as the 1.25x modifier keys. The roughness might be varied by row?

Grond · « **Reply #980 on:** Wed, 21 March 2012, 06:39:53 »

Maybe so, but still doesn't make much sense to me. Aren't there several matte options available from SP?

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Author Topic: [FINISHED] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifier kit (Read 176183 times)