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Title: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: RedSuns on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:39:05
GMK Red Samurai 2

(https://i.imgur.com/BpMmFHw.png)


For those who are new here, this will be the second full drop of GMK Red Samurai.
GMK Blue Samurai is a brand new colorway you can add to your Samurai collection.

Red Samurai is inspired by the red armor of Ii Naomasa.
Blue Samurai is inspired by the blue armor of Date Masamune.

Planned GB Date: June 2020

Updates:

5/31/20 - Updated Base Kits, Novelties, and Novelties Text.
5/26/20 - Updated Base kits.
5/25/20 - Updated Novelties, Novelties Text, and Spacebars.
5/23/20 - Updated Kits. Added Novelties Text.


All kits are being finalized, but will consider suggestions before the drop.

Norde, DC, or 40% kits will not be offered in this drop.

Let me know your thoughts before the drop goes live!

Vendor

It will be on Drop.com (http://Drop.com)


Kits

(https://i.imgur.com/R6lfDyj.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/DUvoFBl.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/PpaNREK.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/60V3F5Q.png)

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GMK Blue Samurai

(https://i.imgur.com/ng8LYHt.png)


Kits

(https://i.imgur.com/pwXbASu.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/ESTEdZd.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/X8DiaSp.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Bsi7EUL.png)

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: singabore on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:42:18
first
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: OtherAndrew on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:42:52
may i suggest some V2 hiragana sublegends
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:43:03
Nice. Are there any notable changes from R1 to R2 (for the GB kits)?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: ymaaan on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:43:12
noice. any chance for other vendors besides drop?

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Agilr on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:43:39
oh my god

After owning red sams and being my top 5 sets of all time, I didn't think blue sams would steal my heart from these two sets
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: scoopbb on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:44:03
would love ortho/40s support beyond a 2uC and 1u shift key :/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: rooski15 on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:45:31
Blue samurai looks amazing. Keeping my eye on this one.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: gminso on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:45:54
blue samurai reminds me of matrix-01
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Ultimatum on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:46:24
love it!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: belgium_waffles on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:46:43
That's ****ing nut
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: logo4poop on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:53:20
o lord
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Shiraori on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:55:46
Blue Samurai looks really good. Really tempted to buy it!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: username_87 on Fri, 15 May 2020, 23:56:28
nice, this time i could have those spacebars!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: riku. on Sat, 16 May 2020, 00:08:19
looks great! nice job on the blue set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: KawabataLuis on Sat, 16 May 2020, 00:32:37
Reeally liked the blue one. Is there any possibility to either offer the mods separately, or base with the nishi alphas? I don't remember if this is possible with GMK and Drop. Excited.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Rejeckted on Sat, 16 May 2020, 00:35:29
Yes FINALLY! I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: deathwalker113 on Sat, 16 May 2020, 00:57:13
I'm still in love with the red one, especially with novelties ^-^. But the blue one look great  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Popopro on Sat, 16 May 2020, 00:57:46
oh yes
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Mtalbert on Sat, 16 May 2020, 00:59:07
Its finally coming. Im in for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: KillerkratZ on Sat, 16 May 2020, 01:00:33
Wow, this looks really clean. I'm glad I waited for this. But curious whats different in Red Samurai 2
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Frystie on Sat, 16 May 2020, 01:01:23
Excited to get in on this!

Any chance of a kit to cover missing mods for those of us who bought the drop tkl/65 kits? I'd really like to move my tkl kit to an hhkb layout and it would kinda suck to double up on some stuff. I'd think there are a fair number of people in the same boat too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: fishbiscuit13 on Sat, 16 May 2020, 01:12:27
Would it be possible to add one extra R4 1u key to the novelties to fill out a 68-key 65%?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: JohnsonMG on Sat, 16 May 2020, 01:20:01
This looks great!

Adding the coloured spacebars in a non-base kit would allow people to cover both red and blue sets by getting one base and one alphas of the other colour plus another smaller kit. I would personally be very interested in doing this.

Also I would like to second the comment wishing to have other vendors that aren't Massdrop.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: jiezhou on Sat, 16 May 2020, 01:25:12
Very nice! Have been waiting for it quite a while.

I know it's hard to have the DC kit, given the low number last round but I really need it. Many things have changed since last round. Recently we have the nice sold number for Colevrak+ for the GMK WoB set even when it's a extension kit only without the base. And Drop has changed its sale mode from preorders/GBs to more like products in stock. Maybe Drop would buy it out if MOQ is not reached in this case?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Rich Carpenter on Sat, 16 May 2020, 01:28:56
SAMBLURAI/BLUESHIDO, great work!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Sat, 16 May 2020, 01:42:13
Yeah I'm going to have to be on team Blue Samurai on this one.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 16 May 2020, 02:48:16
I will be all in, again,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: jaywhyokay on Sat, 16 May 2020, 03:49:13
I did not know blue was the answer to making this set a dream. I'd be so in if it ever goes on GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sat, 16 May 2020, 03:49:29
Blue Samurai looks phenomenal, but yeah, I don't think you should leave the Hiragana sublegends in another kit. It's GMK Samurai. Make the filthy gaijins pay more to stay foreign ;D

Seriously though: Nishi in the main kit, then Latin and Pure as seperate ones.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: FinalEleven on Sat, 16 May 2020, 04:10:51
I got the red sam 65% kit from drop earlier this year....Might have to go all in on Blue Sam and figure out what I need from Red sam. Also Agree that Nishi should be in main kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Pluto19 on Sat, 16 May 2020, 04:20:10
Can't wait to see someone deck out their board with GMK RGB Samurai.

I also wonder how many people will be picking up a novelty kit for making their own ghetto GMK Green Samurai.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Blank on Sat, 16 May 2020, 04:22:59
Any chance of EU vendor/proxy?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: ivu on Sat, 16 May 2020, 04:29:49
Pure latin should stay in the base kit.
Recent drop Red Sam kits only had Nishi alphas so pure latin should stay as base alphas for this regular r2 run.

Also, any chance for deskmats?
Would definitely sell as hot bread.

Long shot but... +for EU proxy if possible

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: supernova on Sat, 16 May 2020, 06:08:07
Nice!

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: SpinningHook on Sat, 16 May 2020, 06:10:23
I think that I just got done buying all the sets that were available (at the time - 1800, ortho, and tkl) to adequately cover my Candybar Premium that I will hopefully be getting in July and now Drop is going to get another $300 or so out of me.

Edit - I would prefer Nishi in the base.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: hyppialonso on Sat, 16 May 2020, 06:17:45
would be good to add the nishi into the base
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: b33que on Sat, 16 May 2020, 06:21:34
Another store for EU?
Drop is a nightmare over here..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 16 May 2020, 06:32:17
My R1 set has a R4 1.25u Fn key, yet this seems to replace it with Menu. Could you please bring Fn back?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: pengoot02 on Sat, 16 May 2020, 06:34:11
Gib both base kits  : ) : )
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: ngoalong on Sat, 16 May 2020, 06:46:38
How to join IC?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: cyyz on Sat, 16 May 2020, 07:06:39
Love that this set is back. Thank you for keeping Latin alphas in the base. The rest can stay as their separate kits, as it should.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Armaguard on Sat, 16 May 2020, 07:35:37
What happened to the ergo kit? Seems weird to drop support. +1 for ergo if possible please!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: mta on Sat, 16 May 2020, 08:43:13
Sweet
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: cijanzen on Sat, 16 May 2020, 09:22:18
Nice. Had regrets after seeing this and not joining in R1.

Looks like your base kit has decent 40% coverage but a 1.5 and/or 1.75 return would help make that go further. I think if just one of them could be added that the 1.75u would be most beneficial but I’d have to double check more recent 40% boards.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: fractl on Sat, 16 May 2020, 09:37:42
I personally don't care for sub-legends, but love the colorway, so I'm definitely glad I'll finally be able to get in on this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: stevenT on Sat, 16 May 2020, 09:54:34
Since this is a Japanese themed keycap set, it would make more sense to use nishi as standard alpha in base kit like other set namely: bushido, alter, bento, etc.. just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: eniigma on Sat, 16 May 2020, 10:13:36
Please keep non weeb alphas in base
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: dallman5 on Sat, 16 May 2020, 10:20:48
I'd like to cast another vote for latin alphas staying in the base.  The blue set looks quite nice  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: StanleyLelnats on Sat, 16 May 2020, 10:54:45
+1 for Latin alphas in base


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Frystie on Sat, 16 May 2020, 11:18:38
I'd cast my vote for nishi in base.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: wholypantalones on Sat, 16 May 2020, 11:40:09
Also voting for Latin alphas in base, also like the blue
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: depletedvespene on Sat, 16 May 2020, 11:46:26
FINALLY!

Now, let's check 'em kits. Both blue and red sets are identical except for the color, so my comments will apply to both:

1) Esc and horizontal ("ANSI") Enter are present in black and yellow; vertical ("ISO") and numpad Enter keys are present only in black. It's fine if you leave this as-is, but consider adding accent versions of the latter Enter keys.
2) Consider including the F13 key.
3) ISO is correctly supported in base. You don't have to change anything, but do consider replacing the R4 \| key with R4 <> (to follow the "terminal style" instead of the "PC style"). This change would apply to the Nishi sets as well.
4) Consider adding an 1.25U R4 Fn key.

5) Nishi sets are missing the R3 1.0 \|む keys (it IS correctly present on all other rows, though).
6) Same goes for the pure Hiragana sets: the R3 1.0 keys are missing.


7) The 2.25U and 2.75U space bars in the base kit: EXCELLENT. Now, could we ask for an additional, separate kit with just those four keys (red and blue, 2.25U and 2.75U)?


Looking forward to this!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Abec13 on Sat, 16 May 2020, 12:12:10
No more 40s :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: ilikerustoo on Sat, 16 May 2020, 14:02:24
I like both
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Sat, 16 May 2020, 14:05:19
may i suggest some V2 hiragana sublegends

+1, please make the bracket keys in both hiragana kits V2, along with the V2 keys which include furigana.

(https://i.imgur.com/iXflmA5.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/lp9R3D0.png)

The bracket keys especially cause me pain.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 16 May 2020, 15:00:54
and any idea when it will be live on drop?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: SMOKEY on Sat, 16 May 2020, 15:26:41
In for the Novelties!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Missingnumber on Sat, 16 May 2020, 16:22:26
I really like the blue base kit a lot! Please keep it Latin only.

The hiragana sublegends on all the kits lately are overdone. They're not even good for people that use kana input methods. ろ is misplaced, no ー key, no ひらがな or 変換 or 半角 keys, most are missing the ¥ and 「 」 keys, etc. It's all so people can feel cool with characters they can't read.

The "Theme" argument often used is also bad, especially since the sets don't respect the theme enough to have something near JIS support. Imagine a Germany themed set without even ISO support.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 16 May 2020, 17:50:37
FINALLY!

Now, let's check 'em kits. Both blue and red sets are identical except for the color, so my comments will apply to both:

1) Esc and horizontal ("ANSI") Enter are present in black and yellow; vertical ("ISO") and numpad Enter keys are present only in black. It's fine if you leave this as-is, but consider adding accent versions of the latter Enter keys.
2) Consider including the F13 key.
3) ISO is correctly supported in base. You don't have to change anything, but do consider replacing the R4 \| key with R4 <> (to follow the "terminal style" instead of the "PC style"). This change would apply to the Nishi sets as well.
4) Consider adding an 1.25U R4 Fn key.

5) Nishi sets are missing the R3 1.0 \|む keys (it IS correctly present on all other rows, though).
6) Same goes for the pure Hiragana sets: the R3 1.0 keys are missing.


7) The 2.25U and 2.75U space bars in the base kit: EXCELLENT. Now, could we ask for an additional, separate kit with just those four keys (red and blue, 2.25U and 2.75U)?


Looking forward to this!

you're not incorrect, but this wouldn't even fit a JIS board in the first place and weebs will buy it cause it's weeb ****

i don't think GMK has the right weeb mold so a few bucks can be saved by not bothering
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Fredington on Sat, 16 May 2020, 17:56:05
Latin in base.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: kiyoboard on Sat, 16 May 2020, 17:59:19
Red Samurai was the first set I really wanted but couldn't get since I wasn't in the hobby when it was released. It is still one of my favorite set of all time. I have the drop tkl version but it has very limited compatibility of course. Glad that it is back and I am in for both colorways :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: dak148 on Sat, 16 May 2020, 17:59:39
Just separate the alphas so people can choose. I'd rather have the weeb alphas and don't want to pay extra for them.  :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 16 May 2020, 18:01:17
Just separate the alphas so people can choose. I'd rather have the weeb alphas and don't want to pay extra for them.  :))

if you split the kits you'll end up paying about 10% per kit extra regardless for GMK kit split tax, this is the worst solution
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 16 May 2020, 18:01:53
that blue looking cute tho
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: hineybush on Sat, 16 May 2020, 18:08:09
why have two identical spacebar kits
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 16 May 2020, 18:21:01
why have two identical spacebar kits

clout
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 16 May 2020, 18:42:13
Just separate the alphas so people can choose. I'd rather have the weeb alphas and don't want to pay extra for them.  :))

if you split the kits you'll end up paying about 10% per kit extra regardless for GMK kit split tax, this is the worst solution

10% might be optimistic. Tough to get split alpha and mods below 165 USD combined and thats GMK dark money. Didn't oblotzky try this with oblivion R2?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: PhantomLeadr on Sat, 16 May 2020, 19:21:40
DEF +1 here. Apologies if im not doing this right im very new to the hobby/community. I just ordered the 65% on drop but im afraid it wont fit my Tokyo60. Will these be able to fit an HHKB profile? Either way i want to cop both sets ASAP lol.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Popopro on Sat, 16 May 2020, 20:59:29
latin in base pls
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Sat, 16 May 2020, 21:07:46
Would love R4 1.5u Fn key.
I'm 100% in on all of the Red Samurai kits.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: zakatak on Sat, 16 May 2020, 21:24:49
Nishi in base pls ( at least for blue sam)

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: pcire on Sat, 16 May 2020, 22:53:50
Yes!!!!

Edit: Nishi in the base, please! As someone said, pay extra to stay foreign.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Owl- on Sat, 16 May 2020, 23:06:36
Highly suggesting to combine red and blue novelty kit. only difference between them is the base colour for the sets, and there are more mod colour keys than the accent keys too boot.

need to see a separate alpha base splitspace bar kit too. make it as a single kit containing red and blue, though I would rather see it separate.


Am I sensing redsun making gmk green samurai hit the battlefield down the line?  :rolleyes:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/be/5f/39be5f4212b0953c4ef1c1451869eb60.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: dorf on Sun, 17 May 2020, 03:30:46
How about a R5 kit which also includes AltGr? That would be awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: baysic on Sun, 17 May 2020, 04:36:52
Highly suggesting to combine red and blue novelty kit. only difference between them is the base colour for the sets, and there are more mod colour keys than the accent keys too boot.

need to see a separate alpha base splitspace bar kit too. make it as a single kit containing red and blue, though I would rather see it separate.


Am I sensing redsun making gmk green samurai hit the battlefield down the line?  :rolleyes:

Show Image
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/be/5f/39be5f4212b0953c4ef1c1451869eb60.jpg)


+1 on green samurai so 3 sets RGB Samurai.  :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Stanley.Bishop on Sun, 17 May 2020, 06:04:08
Always wanted a samurai set without nishi :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: RedBeardDog on Sun, 17 May 2020, 06:19:02
Nice!!!
How about rama keycap and deskmate ?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: dantambok on Sun, 17 May 2020, 08:13:18
i like seeing split space bars in base kits!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: wil on Sun, 17 May 2020, 09:34:18
+1 for v2 hiragana sublegends
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: DrHigsby on Sun, 17 May 2020, 10:58:30
+1 for green samurai.

More seriously, as neat as the original redsuns run was, I’m not a super big fan of red color ways. I’m taking serious interest in blue samurai now.

I would really like to see more of the R1 novelties turned into R4 novelties. As a 40s user, I can’t use any R1 keys if I want to keep profiles correct. Having more R4 novelties also means stronger 40s support without running a 40s kit.

Not a fan of the R1 1u backspace that is “bsp”. It should be “back” or “bksp” or just the icon IMO.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: SpinningHook on Sun, 17 May 2020, 11:06:58
I would also purchase a green set, if it were to be released. I would gladly rotate through all three every so often.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: akaredskin on Sun, 17 May 2020, 11:16:23
Can the spacebars kit for Blue Samurai be blue? For those who have R1 of Red Samurai, they would be able to buy the Nishi blue set and spacebars and not have to buy another whole base kit just for blue alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: username_87 on Sun, 17 May 2020, 11:34:18
+1 for green
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 17 May 2020, 11:46:20
Spacebars other than 6.25u and 7u in the spacebar kits should be alpha-colored, imo.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: equalunique on Sun, 17 May 2020, 12:54:57
Not sure if Planck support is a goal, but if so, then you'll need a 1u R4 Enter key, and alternate R3/R2 Tab/Esc keys. A mod-color :; key would also be good, as well as R4C 1u keys in the spacebars kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: GigaFlop on Sun, 17 May 2020, 13:30:46
Highly suggesting to combine red and blue novelty kit. only difference between them is the base colour for the sets, and there are more mod colour keys than the accent keys too boot.

need to see a separate alpha base splitspace bar kit too. make it as a single kit containing red and blue, though I would rather see it separate.


Am I sensing redsun making gmk green samurai hit the battlefield down the line?  :rolleyes:

Show Image
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/be/5f/39be5f4212b0953c4ef1c1451869eb60.jpg)


Going to +1 on combining the novelty kits. 19 of the keys are identical, and 15 are just color variations. Might help get MOQ for whatever colorway is less popular.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Rexcramer on Sun, 17 May 2020, 14:06:35
+1 for latin alphas in base and NorDe kit  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: depletedvespene on Sun, 17 May 2020, 17:01:02
FINALLY!

Now, let's check 'em kits. Both blue and red sets are identical except for the color, so my comments will apply to both:

1) Esc and horizontal ("ANSI") Enter are present in black and yellow; vertical ("ISO") and numpad Enter keys are present only in black. It's fine if you leave this as-is, but consider adding accent versions of the latter Enter keys.
2) Consider including the F13 key.
3) ISO is correctly supported in base. You don't have to change anything, but do consider replacing the R4 \| key with R4 <> (to follow the "terminal style" instead of the "PC style"). This change would apply to the Nishi sets as well.
4) Consider adding an 1.25U R4 Fn key.

5) Nishi sets are missing the R3 1.0 \|む keys (it IS correctly present on all other rows, though).
6) Same goes for the pure Hiragana sets: the R3 1.0 keys are missing.


7) The 2.25U and 2.75U space bars in the base kit: EXCELLENT. Now, could we ask for an additional, separate kit with just those four keys (red and blue, 2.25U and 2.75U)?


Looking forward to this!

you're not incorrect, but this wouldn't even fit a JIS board in the first place and weebs will buy it cause it's weeb ****

i don't think GMK has the right weeb mold so a few bucks can be saved by not bothering

How about we DO bother and get the kit right? Later "weeb ****" can benefit from the new mold GMK would make to get things right in this set.


Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: pcire on Sun, 17 May 2020, 17:03:30
Too many great sets running in June!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 17 May 2020, 17:44:50
FINALLY!

Now, let's check 'em kits. Both blue and red sets are identical except for the color, so my comments will apply to both:

1) Esc and horizontal ("ANSI") Enter are present in black and yellow; vertical ("ISO") and numpad Enter keys are present only in black. It's fine if you leave this as-is, but consider adding accent versions of the latter Enter keys.
2) Consider including the F13 key.
3) ISO is correctly supported in base. You don't have to change anything, but do consider replacing the R4 \| key with R4 <> (to follow the "terminal style" instead of the "PC style"). This change would apply to the Nishi sets as well.
4) Consider adding an 1.25U R4 Fn key.

5) Nishi sets are missing the R3 1.0 \|む keys (it IS correctly present on all other rows, though).
6) Same goes for the pure Hiragana sets: the R3 1.0 keys are missing.


7) The 2.25U and 2.75U space bars in the base kit: EXCELLENT. Now, could we ask for an additional, separate kit with just those four keys (red and blue, 2.25U and 2.75U)?


Looking forward to this!

you're not incorrect, but this wouldn't even fit a JIS board in the first place and weebs will buy it cause it's weeb ****

i don't think GMK has the right weeb mold so a few bucks can be saved by not bothering

How about we DO bother and get the kit right? Later "weeb ****" can benefit from the new mold GMK would make to get things right in this set.

JIS is a 3u spacebar ISO enter layout that is not supported by any existing custom PCBs that i am aware of, so it's 100% not worth it to appeal to that layout
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: depletedvespene on Sun, 17 May 2020, 17:50:46
FINALLY!

Now, let's check 'em kits. Both blue and red sets are identical except for the color, so my comments will apply to both:

1) Esc and horizontal ("ANSI") Enter are present in black and yellow; vertical ("ISO") and numpad Enter keys are present only in black. It's fine if you leave this as-is, but consider adding accent versions of the latter Enter keys.
2) Consider including the F13 key.
3) ISO is correctly supported in base. You don't have to change anything, but do consider replacing the R4 \| key with R4 <> (to follow the "terminal style" instead of the "PC style"). This change would apply to the Nishi sets as well.
4) Consider adding an 1.25U R4 Fn key.

5) Nishi sets are missing the R3 1.0 \|む keys (it IS correctly present on all other rows, though).
6) Same goes for the pure Hiragana sets: the R3 1.0 keys are missing.


7) The 2.25U and 2.75U space bars in the base kit: EXCELLENT. Now, could we ask for an additional, separate kit with just those four keys (red and blue, 2.25U and 2.75U)?


Looking forward to this!

you're not incorrect, but this wouldn't even fit a JIS board in the first place and weebs will buy it cause it's weeb ****

i don't think GMK has the right weeb mold so a few bucks can be saved by not bothering

How about we DO bother and get the kit right? Later "weeb ****" can benefit from the new mold GMK would make to get things right in this set.

JIS is a 3u spacebar ISO enter layout that is not supported by any existing custom PCBs that i am aware of, so it's 100% not worth it to appeal to that layout

I'm talking about the alphas, not the bottom row.

Also, the JIS layout (still) doesn't have standardized keycap lengths on the central bottom row. Some have a 3U space bar, others don't.

Most of the rest of the physical layout differences ("ANSI" left Shift, "ISO" Enter, split Backspace) are already supported... except for the splitting of the right Shift on the inner side.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: dvorcol on Sun, 17 May 2020, 19:02:24
why have two identical spacebar kits

My guess is this will be two separate group buys.  You don't want to have to participate in both GBs just to get a spacebar kit.

Just like how the Decorations kit was identical in both Belafonte and Hennessey GBs when they ran concurrently last month.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: dvorcol on Sun, 17 May 2020, 19:09:30
Blue Samurai looks phenomenal, but yeah, I don't think you should leave the Hiragana sublegends in another kit. It's GMK Samurai. Make the filthy gaijins pay more to stay foreign ;D

Seriously though: Nishi in the main kit, then Latin and Pure as seperate ones.

Just gonna put this here...

(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1570243325853.697359202218770231489236-MDRedSamuraistatus180302noDCkit.PNG)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 17 May 2020, 19:30:28
why have two identical spacebar kits

My guess is this will be two separate group buys.  You don't want to have to participate in both GBs just to get a spacebar kit.

Just like how the Decorations kit was identical in both Belafonte and Hennessey GBs when they ran concurrently last month.

Hope for blue samurai...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: RedBeardDog on Sun, 17 May 2020, 21:49:21
+1 for green set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: niakulah on Sun, 17 May 2020, 23:20:42
FINALLY!
 consider adding accent versions of the latter Enter keys.

+1

ISO and numpad enter for Novelties too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: kaiba on Mon, 18 May 2020, 00:57:32
For the novelties kits, please consider adding or moving one of the r1 shurikens to r2. It's just, I don't know what the object is that's being depicted in the current r2 novelty, so would like something more universally recognized to put there.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: ChaoticEnigma on Mon, 18 May 2020, 02:00:13
I'm wondering if getting the right side shift, control, alt, and menu would be possible as a stand alone set. Those are all I need for the Reds.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: hyppialonso on Mon, 18 May 2020, 06:47:36
Blue Samurai looks phenomenal, but yeah, I don't think you should leave the Hiragana sublegends in another kit. It's GMK Samurai. Make the filthy gaijins pay more to stay foreign ;D

Seriously though: Nishi in the main kit, then Latin and Pure as seperate ones.

Just gonna put this here...

Show Image
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1570243325853.697359202218770231489236-MDRedSamuraistatus180302noDCkit.PNG)

Absolutely agree with it, after all this a Japanese theme keycap set, there is noway that the base kit includes no gaijin sublegend on it.
The low number in the nishi kit in the r1 doesn't not mean much as most of the people will buy a base kit only imo.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 18 May 2020, 08:04:15
5) Nishi sets are missing the R3 1.0 \|む keys (it IS correctly present on all other rows, though).
6) Same goes for the pure Hiragana sets: the R3 1.0 keys are missing.

you're not incorrect, but this wouldn't even fit a JIS board in the first place and weebs will buy it cause it's weeb ****

i don't think GMK has the right weeb mold so a few bucks can be saved by not bothering

How about we DO bother and get the kit right? Later "weeb ****" can benefit from the new mold GMK would make to get things right in this set.

JIS is a 3u spacebar ISO enter layout that is not supported by any existing custom PCBs that i am aware of, so it's 100% not worth it to appeal to that layout

I'm talking about the alphas, not the bottom row.

FYI, other recent sets are using those legends as well, so the molds will likely be accounted for by the time this set gets quoted / goes into production.

There's a few things in the current hiragana sublegends that could be improved upon:
In short, see how GMK Deku (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105484.0) or GMK Sumi (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104469.0) did their hiragana sublegends. Keys circled in red are what can be updated here.

(https://i.imgur.com/UI6Z9cc.png)

Similar changes should be made to the Pure Hiragana kit. See how GMK Oni (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105137.0) or GMK Sumi (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104469.0) did their hiragana-only legends. Keys circled in red are what can be updated here, and orange denotes optional additions.

(https://i.imgur.com/xCjFrN5.jpg)

Once again, none of these changes negatively affect existing support for ANSI/ISO layouts, they just improve upon it.

Note how I deliberately avoid saying JIS, because people who type with kana input usually don't use a full JIS layout on mechanical keyboards because of the odd bottom row. They just use all of the kana alphas, and these changes are intended to better support them.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: HailNibbler on Mon, 18 May 2020, 09:04:46
Also wrote this on the drop IC, but putting it here just in case -
Would love to see Blue Samurai with silver accents and legends!
Either way looking great, in for the blue (already have the red  ;D)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 18 May 2020, 10:11:35
5) Nishi sets are missing the R3 1.0 \|む keys (it IS correctly present on all other rows, though).
6) Same goes for the pure Hiragana sets: the R3 1.0 keys are missing.

you're not incorrect, but this wouldn't even fit a JIS board in the first place and weebs will buy it cause it's weeb ****

i don't think GMK has the right weeb mold so a few bucks can be saved by not bothering

How about we DO bother and get the kit right? Later "weeb ****" can benefit from the new mold GMK would make to get things right in this set.

JIS is a 3u spacebar ISO enter layout that is not supported by any existing custom PCBs that i am aware of, so it's 100% not worth it to appeal to that layout

I'm talking about the alphas, not the bottom row.

FYI, other recent sets are using those legends as well, so the molds will likely be accounted for by the time this set gets quoted / goes into production.

There's a few things in the current hiragana sublegends that can be improved upon:
  • The R1 \|む key should be changed to \| (for better compatibility with Japanese layouts, without affecting regular ANSI/ISO layouts; the mold for this key will exist because other sets use it).
  • The R4 \|む key should be changed to \| (same reason as above; mold exists).
  • A R3 key with a む sublegend should be added, as pointed out earlier. This should either be #~ (mold will exist); or it can be \|, but in this case ISO users get a duplicate \| key (this is also the case in the Latin base kit). This key is also required in order to have ISO support in the Nishi kit in the first place.
  • The missing (han)dakuten sublegends ゛ and ゜ should be added to the bracket keys: [{, [{.

This could be further improved by ensuring the R3 key will be \| (not #~), while making the R4 key be <>. This would ensure consistent terminal style in all cases.

I think the latter key's mold doesn't exist... but it can be created, AND getting the US English/Nishi legends 100% right can be a feature to market as an advantage of the Red/Blue Samurai sets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: snelltrail on Mon, 18 May 2020, 21:41:19
I'll echo what many commenters have already said:

+1 for Hiragana subs in the base kit. With subs in the base kit I would strongly consider picking up both red and blue.
+1 for V2 Hiragana sublegends.
+1 for fixing some of the sublegended keys, especially the square bracket/brace keys.

I hope at least some of these changes can be incorporated. Very happy to see this set making a proper return, I'm sure it will sell well. GLWIC/GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 18 May 2020, 23:41:17
Spacebars other than 6.25u and 7u in the spacebar kits should be alpha-colored, imo.

I completely agree.  As it stands, only alpha-color 6C and 1.75C are missing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: georgethehuman on Tue, 19 May 2020, 05:33:45
sad to see 40s support removed from the base kit (r1 had awesome support!) hopefully it returns to the base kit or at as least an extras kit!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: reaLFX on Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:03:52
Interested in the red!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: khraxion on Wed, 20 May 2020, 20:53:04
I've been waiting a long time for this set without the hiragana subs and I might be picking up both.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: ymaaan on Thu, 21 May 2020, 22:16:04
Since this is an R2, would the pricing be the same as with the first round? Or were there some changes made?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: JXNRVG on Fri, 22 May 2020, 05:21:30
plans on making a deskmat?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Zoomtech on Fri, 22 May 2020, 15:14:45
I want to buy both but it says only red samurai is available for pre order rn
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: kolyz on Fri, 22 May 2020, 19:11:56
I want to buy both but it says only red samurai is available for pre order rn

You're probably looking at this one (https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-keycap-set), which is the set from Round 1. Don't get this one if you are interested in the Round 2 group-buy, that one will be available in June.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Owl- on Sat, 23 May 2020, 20:17:15
What happened to the 2u space bar in base kit? :( Needs to come back
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: bobfrink on Mon, 25 May 2020, 15:28:03
please make hiragana subs an option in base kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: parityb1t on Mon, 25 May 2020, 16:28:38
Also in the 'add 40s support' camp  :p tbh, I don't use 1.75 enter and the base kit is sufficient for me, but I do think having 1.75u enter will be beneficial to 40s out there
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: andrewregal on Tue, 26 May 2020, 13:44:29
Aww man, I bought a TKL kit from Drop in December thinking this wouldn't happen anytime soon. Still tempted to get another red just so I can have the full base kit. But definitely gonna get blue
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: dorf on Tue, 26 May 2020, 13:49:48
It would be nice if this actually was a diagolue with the creator. Mr. RedSuns.
Looking thru the IC on drop there is one (1) answer. https://drop.com/talk/39299/ic-gmk-red-blue-samurai?discussion=true

Come on, man!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: lamp on Tue, 26 May 2020, 13:56:02
need this in my collection
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: ivu on Tue, 26 May 2020, 15:10:13
I just saw some changes were made to the novelties which i'm not really looking forward to, tbh  :'(

- Please keep the yellow sword enter novelty instead of the yellow base red romb one.
- Get the 1u R2 and R3 novelties back like rev.1 as 65% boards are quite popular and those are really good to have to make the right most column fulfilled with novelties.

At least make a poll or something in order to check feedback that way  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: bobfrink on Tue, 26 May 2020, 18:54:28
are these still ABS or PBT?
USB
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 26 May 2020, 19:44:51
are these still ABS or PBT?

abs

GMK is always abs
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: DrHigsby on Tue, 26 May 2020, 19:56:29
It would be nice if this actually was a diagolue with the creator. Mr. RedSuns.
Looking thru the IC on drop there is one (1) answer. https://drop.com/talk/39299/ic-gmk-red-blue-samurai?discussion=true

Come on, man!

Yea, this is increasingly looking like a post to sell early interest and not to solicit feedback of community wants.

The novelty changes aren’t good IMO. And the addition of text novelties, while neat, is baffling to me. This kit doesn’t need two sets of novelties that will be very expensive and polarizing. Increasingly it’s looking like I’m going to pass this up. GL everyone.  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: ChaoticEnigma on Tue, 26 May 2020, 22:22:02
Why are some of the original novelties taken out? I really wanted those.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Tue, 26 May 2020, 22:27:08
I'm sad that the Nishi are a separate kit...  :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: LordOwen on Wed, 27 May 2020, 07:58:16
I'm sad that the Nishi are a separate kit...  :(

Same, I'd really like to see hiragana on the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: hyppialonso on Wed, 27 May 2020, 08:25:04
The novelties changes are quite disappointing imo too, those in r1 are more iconic especially the katana yellow enter and samurai helmet.

And yes, I agree with someone above, we do hope this thread is really gathering opinion, discussing and getting feedback from the society. No interaction nor society's concerns have been addressed as I can see.

Just hope that all the changes are for the sake of making people love this set more instead of creating more ''new molds'' and making it more expensive.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: SMOKEY on Wed, 27 May 2020, 09:06:00
Where'd the helmet go?
Dislike the Novelty changes...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: StateSheriff on Wed, 27 May 2020, 09:27:39
I agree, unsure of the thinking behind those changes.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: dallman5 on Wed, 27 May 2020, 09:50:44
Is one of the Oni-Tengu-Ghost rows in the text novelties supposed to be R4? There are two that are labelled as R3 currently which feels weird since there are no R4 1u novelties.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: KIN[G]DA on Wed, 27 May 2020, 12:08:11
Why are some of the original novelties taken out? I really wanted those.

I hope so.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: kaiba on Wed, 27 May 2020, 13:52:18
I just saw some changes were made to the novelties which i'm not really looking forward to, tbh  :'(

- Please keep the yellow sword enter novelty instead of the yellow base red romb one.
- Get the 1u R2 and R3 novelties back like rev.1 as 65% boards are quite popular and those are really good to have to make the right most column fulfilled with novelties.

At least make a poll or something in order to check feedback that way  :thumb:
Agree. I also want 1u r2 and r3 novelties back for a 65%. To echo what some other people said I also really liked the samurai helmet and want that back. I mean this is a samurai set, it was the most samurai looking icon of the originally pictured novelties. I don't really understand why that was taken out and now we have a 1u skull novelty instead.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: toumatakeshi on Wed, 27 May 2020, 17:07:58
+1 for Hiragana subs in the base kit
+1 for V2 Hiragana sublegends
+1 for fixing some of the sublegended keys

Looking forward to the GB! ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: ymaaan on Wed, 27 May 2020, 19:58:31
Agreed with the other people here with regards to the novelty changes. I much prefer the first round's novelties (especially the samurai helmet and the gold-colored katana key).

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Zoomtech on Wed, 27 May 2020, 20:00:19
Can’t wait for these
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: RedSuns on Wed, 27 May 2020, 22:13:52
To answer some questions:

- Hiragana sublegends will stay as is for now.
- I had to choose a route, two base kits or just one with hiragana addons. One route could be more expensive for another.
- Latin alphas will remain in base kits because it seems to be more popular and because there are Drop kits available.
- Not adding more keys for unique layouts.
- Ortholinear support is not a goal based on interest.
- If I skipped question, it can probably be answered by checking the latest kits.

- I will update 'Menu' 1.25u to 'Fn' 1.25u in base kits.
- Novelties changes soon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: ChaoticEnigma on Wed, 27 May 2020, 22:27:05
Would it be possible to have the modifiers as a set? So We don't have to buy multiple kits?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: digid3ar on Wed, 27 May 2020, 22:51:56
maybe you could add r2 1.75 to noveltys with that we could use alternative alphas with novelties and spacebar
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 27 May 2020, 23:02:47
To answer some questions:

- Hiragana sublegends will stay as is for now.
- I had to choose a route, two base kits or just one with hiragana addons. One route could be more expensive for another.
- Latin alphas will remain in base kits because it seems to be more popular and because there are Drop kits available.
- Not adding more keys for unique layouts.
- Ortholinear support is not a goal based on interest.
- If I skipped question, it can probably be answered by checking the latest kits.

- I will update 'Menu' 1.25u to 'Fn' 1.25u in base kits.
- Novelties changes soon.

New novelties? wow
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: SpaceCowboy on Wed, 27 May 2020, 23:24:02
Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but are there any color code #s, especially for the blue set? I'm toying around with combining it with some other sets, like Nautilus or Penumbra and want to see if the colors would just be way off
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: tunb on Thu, 28 May 2020, 04:41:41
Please add double zero 1u (00) for numpad and spacebar 3u for Filco Minila keyboard. Thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Acoipat on Thu, 28 May 2020, 09:49:49
- Novelties changes soon.

Hopefully this means novelties are being worked on... not sure what's up with the 1.5u R2 novelty, I guess for Tab? And hopefully the diamond/checkered ones are placeholders for some new designs  :-X

Otherwise super excited to see this set coming back in a new color
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: StateSheriff on Thu, 28 May 2020, 09:52:55
- Novelties changes soon.
And hopefully the diamond/checkered ones are placeholders for some new designs  :-X

Big agree! These are the ones I'm most baffled about. If the novelty changes are a step in the right direction I'm gonna be all in for the reds  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: RedSuns on Mon, 01 June 2020, 00:29:56
Updates:

Base Kits - Changed 'Menu' 1.25u to 'Fn' 1.25u.
Novelties - Major changes to kits. Classic novelties return to Red Samurai Novelties.
Novelties Text - Fixed duplicate R3 to R4.

Hope you guys like the new update!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: parityb1t on Mon, 01 June 2020, 07:57:54
Updates:

Base Kits - Changed 'Menu' 1.25u to 'Fn' 1.25u.
Novelties - Major changes to kits. Classic novelties return to Red Samurai Novelties.
Novelties Text - Fixed duplicate R3 to R4.

Hope you guys like the new update!

respect :thumb: thanks for listening to the community
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: StateSheriff on Mon, 01 June 2020, 09:34:36
Excited to order this set again after the novelty changes. Nice work!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: idolindisguise on Mon, 01 June 2020, 09:53:23
When is the GB for this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: ivu on Mon, 01 June 2020, 09:55:40
Thumbs up for the fast response on the public feedback especially on the novelties!
Think about a matching deskmat at some point, btw :)

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: ChaoticEnigma on Mon, 01 June 2020, 11:15:57
Just for clarification. There won't be a full kit with the nishi alphanumerics?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: ymaaan on Mon, 01 June 2020, 11:26:19
Updates:

Base Kits - Changed 'Menu' 1.25u to 'Fn' 1.25u.
Novelties - Major changes to kits. Classic novelties return to Red Samurai Novelties.
Novelties Text - Fixed duplicate R3 to R4.

Hope you guys like the new update!
Nice! Thanks for listening.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: solomonshv on Mon, 01 June 2020, 17:09:55
i'm assuming this is still in the design phase, since the red novelty kit has more keys than the blue one. only thing i'd like to see is the number of novelty kits cut down to 2, max.

either:
1 blue novelty kit with picture and text novelties + 1 red novelty kit with picture and text novelties
OR
1 picture only novelty kit that has both red and blue keys + 1 text novelty kit with red and blue keys (if any)

i understand your desire to have English only keys in the base set since drop GBs are meant to appeal to a more mainstream audience (who are more likely to put this kit on a corsair keyboard than a GOK or similar), and i can live with that as long as the nishi and hiragana sets are not too expensive. in the R1 GB, the ortho kit was $85, and 42 of those 82 keys were alpha keys. based on that, if the new 50 key alpha kits can be made available for around $50, i think it will be fair.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Melnyx on Tue, 02 June 2020, 13:24:59
So what are exactly the differences between R1 and R2 besides the blue option?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: DrHigsby on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:34:57
It’s great to see the novelties returning!

But now the concern is price. Those are quite large novelty kits and look like they could push up on the $70 price range. Yikes!

Why have additional arrow kits been included in the novelties kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:43:03
I‘VE got R1, I’ll sit this one ou...skull novelty. Ok.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Owl- on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:44:15
To answer some questions:

- Hiragana sublegends will stay as is for now.
- I had to choose a route, two base kits or just one with hiragana addons. One route could be more expensive for another.
- Latin alphas will remain in base kits because it seems to be more popular and because there are Drop kits available.
- Not adding more keys for unique layouts.
- Ortholinear support is not a goal based on interest.
- If I skipped question, it can probably be answered by checking the latest kits.

- I will update 'Menu' 1.25u to 'Fn' 1.25u in base kits.
- Novelties changes soon.

Need 2u spacebar back in for split space support to make it more complete, please!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 02 June 2020, 15:31:23
To answer some questions:

- Hiragana sublegends will stay as is for now.
- I had to choose a route, two base kits or just one with hiragana addons. One route could be more expensive for another.
- Latin alphas will remain in base kits because it seems to be more popular and because there are Drop kits available.
- Not adding more keys for unique layouts.
- Ortholinear support is not a goal based on interest.
- If I skipped question, it can probably be answered by checking the latest kits.

- I will update 'Menu' 1.25u to 'Fn' 1.25u in base kits.
- Novelties changes soon.

Thanks for the Menu → Fn change! I hope you will reconsider the hiragana changes further down the line.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Lumenoctis on Tue, 02 June 2020, 16:53:36
Hello, my friend is looking to purchase the Blue Samurai set, but when we checked Drop, we only saw the Red Samurai set. Are they running at different times or am I missing something? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 02 June 2020, 17:54:13
The Red and Blue Samurai group buys haven't started yet.  The Red Samurai that is up right now contains sets specific to Drop's keyboards.  It will be open for three months.

The Red Samurai group buy related to this IC will probably start in the first week of June.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Lumenoctis on Wed, 03 June 2020, 00:40:20
The Red and Blue Samurai group buys haven't started yet.  The Red Samurai that is up right now contains sets specific to Drop's keyboards.  It will be open for three months.

The Red Samurai group buy related to this IC will probably start in the first week of June.

Ahhhh, got it; thanks for the help!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: ymaaan on Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:12:33
Hi! Don't know if this has ever been addressed before, but is there any chance for other vendors besides Drop? Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:19:48
Hi! Don't know if this has ever been addressed before, but is there any chance for other vendors besides Drop? Thanks!

The answer is almost certainly no, because I'm pretty sure that Drop co-owns the Red Samurai IP now, or at least has exclusive distribution rights for it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: ymaaan on Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:21:05
Hi! Don't know if this has ever been addressed before, but is there any chance for other vendors besides Drop? Thanks!

The answer is almost certainly no, because I'm pretty sure that Drop co-owns the Red Samurai IP now, or at least has exclusive distribution rights for it.

Ah thanks for the heads-up!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: tectonicplate on Thu, 04 June 2020, 16:13:25
To answer some questions:

- Hiragana sublegends will stay as is for now.
- I had to choose a route, two base kits or just one with hiragana addons. One route could be more expensive for another.
- Latin alphas will remain in base kits because it seems to be more popular and because there are Drop kits available.
- Not adding more keys for unique layouts.
- Ortholinear support is not a goal based on interest.
- If I skipped question, it can probably be answered by checking the latest kits.

- I will update 'Menu' 1.25u to 'Fn' 1.25u in base kits.
- Novelties changes soon.

Need 2u spacebar back in for split space support to make it more complete, please!

+1… 2u space is severely lacking now… I don't know who was surveyed but a ton of people will want that… not everyone has been buying the Drop ortho kits, many are waiting for this GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Xqht on Thu, 04 June 2020, 17:55:17
Maybe I'm missing it, but I could not find the Blue Color code anywhere. Does any one know what is Blue color code? or just compare to V4-Classic Blue or GMK Striker. Tks,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: username_87 on Fri, 05 June 2020, 00:54:38
Maybe I'm missing it, but I could not find the Blue Color code anywhere. Does any one know what is Blue color code? or just compare to V4-Classic Blue or GMK Striker. Tks,

this is the info from drop
Quote
Red Samurai: Pantone 7421 C, Pantone 426 C, Pantone 465 C
Blue Samurai: Pantone 540 C, Pantone 426 C, Pantone 465 C
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Xqht on Fri, 05 June 2020, 08:59:08

this is the info from drop
Quote
Red Samurai: Pantone 7421 C, Pantone 426 C, Pantone 465 C
Blue Samurai: Pantone 540 C, Pantone 426 C, Pantone 465 C

You're the best!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Sabin on Fri, 05 June 2020, 13:51:05
When is going up on drop, cant wait!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: SpinningHook on Sat, 06 June 2020, 05:06:46
When is going up on drop, cant wait!

This. I have been checking drop daily since 6/1.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: friedtofu on Sat, 06 June 2020, 07:31:00
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/e5k70y/first_post_long_time_lurker_got_the_varmilo/

the picture in this thread made me want to buy this set so badly!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Shadedren on Sat, 06 June 2020, 22:20:43
Is there any reason i can't seem to find the Blue Samurai set on drop? Did they sellout already or are the Red being released first then the Blue?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Ptaty on Sat, 06 June 2020, 22:22:30
Neither of them have been released yet bud!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 06 June 2020, 22:26:23
Is there any reason i can't seem to find the Blue Samurai set on drop? Did they sellout already or are the Red being released first then the Blue?

The Red and Blue Samurai group buys haven't started yet.  The Red Samurai that is up right now contains sets specific to Drop's keyboards.  It will be open for three months.

The two Samurai group buys related to this IC are supposed to start some time later this month.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: aiwa501 on Sun, 07 June 2020, 08:54:51
I think people are asking because BT put out a video of current GB and didn't give any info.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Shadedren on Sun, 07 June 2020, 15:24:19
Red Samurai 2 are already on pre-order on drop.com, but I don’t see the blue version on there and don’t want to miss out on red if I can’t get the blue, hence the question.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 07 June 2020, 15:27:36
Red Samurai 2 are already on pre-order on drop.com, but I don’t see the blue version on there and don’t want to miss out on red if I can’t get the blue, hence the question.

Hmm.... have the red and need the blue!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Rejeckted on Sun, 07 June 2020, 15:34:43
Red Samurai 2 are already on pre-order on drop.com, but I don’t see the blue version on there and don’t want to miss out on red if I can’t get the blue, hence the question.

The new round 2 kits have not been posted on Drop yet. What you're seeing on drop right now is a separate ROUND 1 kit specifically for Drop keyboard layouts.

Read the posts before yours in this thread.

what do you know....drop making things incredibly confusing for people. It's like they do it intentionally.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: StateSheriff on Sun, 07 June 2020, 15:56:58
Just to be clear, the current red samurai on drop IS NOT the red samurai 2 in this IC.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 07 June 2020, 16:00:53
Red Samurai 2 are already on pre-order on drop.com, but I don’t see the blue version on there and don’t want to miss out on red if I can’t get the blue, hence the question.

The new round 2 kits have not been posted on Drop yet. What you're seeing on drop right now is a separate ROUND 1 kit specifically for Drop keyboard layouts.

Read the posts before yours in this thread.

what do you know....drop making things incredibly confusing for people. It's like they do it intentionally.

yeah just noticed it is those TKL/65% kit ones
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Lexxxed on Sun, 07 June 2020, 22:11:30
Shame there are no ortho kits this time. Brought one of the existing kits for my brother for his lilly pro
Need one red and one blue for my mine(latin)  lilly pro and lily rgb

Or at least offer a latin alpha kit in each color and a mod kit.

Unless someone else in Australia wants to swap latin alphas for nishi(for the red)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: bobfrink on Wed, 10 June 2020, 22:33:17
Any chance to add nishi to base kit or add another base kit option. I think would drive a lot of orders especially given this is a japanese themed set, it makes more sense to have nishi in base. It would make me buy it if that were the case.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Sabin on Fri, 12 June 2020, 06:57:36
Any chance to add nishi to base kit or add another base kit option. I think would drive a lot of orders especially given this is a japanese themed set, it makes more sense to have nishi in base. It would make me buy it if that were the case.

The new listing is up on drop so it won't change.
 Your ebst bet is to buy from other listing if you want the caps with both characters on them. 100usd for the tkl isn't too bad
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: jjlau on Fri, 12 June 2020, 12:49:47
Any chance to add nishi to base kit or add another base kit option. I think would drive a lot of orders especially given this is a japanese themed set, it makes more sense to have nishi in base. It would make me buy it if that were the case.

The new listing is up on drop so it won't change.
 Your ebst bet is to buy from other listing if you want the caps with both characters on them. 100usd for the tkl isn't too bad

How do you know the price of the set will be $100?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: toumatakeshi on Fri, 12 June 2020, 13:32:25
PSA, these are live on drop for $125 base.
https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-blue-samurai-custom-keycap-set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: dorf on Fri, 12 June 2020, 13:55:21
PSA, these are live on drop for $125 base.
https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-blue-samurai-custom-keycap-set

Huh! Can we get an explanation?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: SpinningHook on Fri, 12 June 2020, 14:48:39
Any chance to add nishi to base kit or add another base kit option. I think would drive a lot of orders especially given this is a japanese themed set, it makes more sense to have nishi in base. It would make me buy it if that were the case.

The new listing is up on drop so it won't change.
 Your ebst bet is to buy from other listing if you want the caps with both characters on them. 100usd for the tkl isn't too bad

How do you know the price of the set will be $100?

There are 3 different listings on Drop - one for their ongoing red nishi offerings for TKL, 60%, and ortho that has been around for a while, one that is a second round of the red base set and various add ons, and the first round of blue. I purchased the TKL one recently and can verify that it goes for $100.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Sabin on Fri, 12 June 2020, 18:13:40
Any chance to add nishi to base kit or add another base kit option. I think would drive a lot of orders especially given this is a japanese themed set, it makes more sense to have nishi in base. It would make me buy it if that were the case.

The new listing is up on drop so it won't change.
 Your ebst bet is to buy from other listing if you want the caps with both characters on them. 100usd for the tkl isn't too bad

How do you know the price of the set will be $100?

Because I ordered a set! Just go on drop and type in samurai.. You'll see the different options.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: YellowHalo on Sat, 13 June 2020, 07:35:05
Why can't I buy spacebar or text novelties without buying a base kit, alphas or novelties?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Sabin on Sat, 13 June 2020, 07:50:20
Why can't I buy spacebar or text novelties without buying a base kit, alphas or novelties?

You can. On the first drop down list scroll down and there are options for space bar etc. It'll say e.g. Space bars - $70  and subtract the cost.

Edit: sorry my mistake.. I bought the novelties only.. There doesn't seem to be an option for just the spacebars..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: toumatakeshi on Sat, 13 June 2020, 08:44:17
There's a "Samurai Spacebars" for $20 spacebar kit when you check out.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: depletedvespene on Sat, 13 June 2020, 09:15:32
There's a "Samurai Spacebars" for $20 spacebar kit when you check out.

Yeah, but aren't those the yellow space bars?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: StateSheriff on Sat, 13 June 2020, 11:07:22
There's a "Samurai Spacebars" for $20 spacebar kit when you check out.

He asked why you can't buy them standalone.

Yeah, but aren't those the yellow space bars?
The ones available at checkout are the yellow ones, from what I can tell?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Sat, 13 June 2020, 12:33:05
I was hoping to see the staggered MOQ pricing that Drop tends to do. These sets are more expensive than I had anticipated  :-\
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: Rejeckted on Sat, 13 June 2020, 12:39:24
I was hoping to see the staggered MOQ pricing that Drop tends to do. These sets are more expensive than I had anticipated  :-\

Pretty sure they stopped this a while ago
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red & Blue Samurai - Launching June 2020
Post by: RedSuns on Sun, 14 June 2020, 21:57:32
GB thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106928.0