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Title: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: litster on Thu, 04 October 2012, 13:00:44: http://www.ebay.com/itm/130776235154 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/130776235154)

Not really a great find, since a bunch of noobs are fighting it out, with 2 full days to go. They have 20 feedbacks combined across 6 bidders. The bid history is fun to see. http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=130776235154&showauto=true (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=130776235154&showauto=true)

If you are one of the bidders, you are doing it wrong. Either someone will snipe it from you right before the auction ends, or you absolutely over bid.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dreamingftw on Thu, 04 October 2012, 13:51:49: Why is this so expensive again?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: limmy on Thu, 04 October 2012, 13:54:19: Here are past prices:
May 13,2011 - $435 + shipping - http://www.ebay.com/itm/200605537797 - NIB
Jun 19, 2011 - $315 + shipping - http://www.ebay.com/itm/200619118890 - NIB

I wonder how much this one will sell. Dyesub caps are good, but I am not willing to pay that much. We should remember that those are auction prices which is maximum of the submitted prices. If anyone is buying them in hopes reselling, it is likely that the person is going to suffer losses because the winner is paying on top of everyone who wants to buy them.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 04 October 2012, 14:12:05: LOL... that much for boring beige set on a crappy MY board... and I only paid $10 for my blue on grey Cherry dyesub set which even was on an MX. Not sure I have even seen the NCR G81-3000 with dyesub go for that much, and it even has a nice casebody to use as well.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: DanGWanG on Thu, 04 October 2012, 14:57:57: Is this auction serious....$355???? Jesus christ.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Amble on Thu, 04 October 2012, 15:02:03: That is a lot of new ebayers... :eek:
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Alessandro on Thu, 04 October 2012, 15:56:25: 15 idiots and counting...
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: litster on Thu, 04 October 2012, 16:06:26: Quote from: Alessandro on Thu, 04 October 2012, 15:56:25
15 idiots and counting...

Nope. 15 bids from 6 different bidders. Not 15 different bidders, or idiots as you put it.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Amble on Thu, 04 October 2012, 16:20:13: It just goes to show how much imsto could make if he made a beige/gray set with cherry font. Not that much obviously, but he would have no shortage of buyers. One can dream.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Alessandro on Thu, 04 October 2012, 16:23:43: Quote from: litster on Thu, 04 October 2012, 16:06:26
Quote from: Alessandro on Thu, 04 October 2012, 15:56:25
15 idiots and counting...

Nope. 15 bids from 6 different bidders. Not 15 different bidders, or idiots as you put it.

Well, this is embarrassing...
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: mmmty on Thu, 04 October 2012, 16:45:33: Hey! I have one. It's in a really bad shape with missing keys/springs/stems... But maybe I can still get $150 for it. I was lucky to get it when it was cheap - only $25.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: litster on Thu, 04 October 2012, 16:52:23: Quote from: Amble on Thu, 04 October 2012, 16:20:13
It just goes to show how much imsto could make if he made a beige/gray set with cherry font. Not that much obviously, but he would have no shortage of buyers. One can dream.

These genuine Cherry dye sub PBT keycaps are so expensive because they are hard to find, and they are not being made any more, and most of all, they are genuine Cherry. Are they worth this much? Maybe so, to the people who are bidding.

IMSTO's PBT caps are still in production and are not made by Cherry.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Amble on Thu, 04 October 2012, 16:59:33: Quote from: litster on Thu, 04 October 2012, 16:52:23
These genuine Cherry dye sub PBT keycaps are so expensive because they are hard to find, and they are not being made any more, and most of all, they are genuine Cherry. Are they worth this much? Maybe so, to the people who are bidding.

IMSTO's PBT caps are still in production and are not made by Cherry.

Wait, so your telling me imsto might have these after all? Genuine Cherry is nice, but if I can get something that looks and feels bascially the same for one-third the price I am all in. PBT and Cherry font is the end all be all for me. :)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 04 October 2012, 17:55:50: Quote from: lysol on Thu, 04 October 2012, 14:12:05
LOL... that much for boring beige set on a crappy MY board... and I only paid $10 for my blue on grey Cherry dyesub set which even was on an MX. Not sure I have even seen the NCR G81-3000 with dyesub go for that much, and it even has a nice casebody to use as well.
I'll give you $20 for that blue on grey dyesub 'board. You'll turn a nice profit.

While these "can" be found for super low prices, I don't think it's the norm. Everyone knows Cherry Dyesubs are rare, so they go for a lot. Me, I'd go imsto.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 04 October 2012, 18:46:22: Quote from: Amble on Thu, 04 October 2012, 16:59:33
Wait, so your telling me imsto might have these after all? Genuine Cherry is nice, but if I can get something that looks and feels bascially the same for one-third the price I am all in. PBT and Cherry font is the end all be all for me. :)

He has them, yeah. Look in his vendor subforum. The catch is that he only has grey and blue keys right now. What most people want is the classic white/grey colorscheme.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Amble on Thu, 04 October 2012, 19:08:27: Quote from: hashbaz on Thu, 04 October 2012, 18:46:22
He has them, yeah. Look in his vendor subforum. The catch is that he only has grey and blue keys right now. What most people want is the classic white/grey colorscheme.

I have that exact same set (gray with blue modifiers). I am in the same boat... can't wait for the classic colors. :)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 04 October 2012, 19:25:29: It's ironic that you guys all laugh at them and call them idiots, and to turn around and look at us and see that most of us will jump on a $50 CC, and even pay up to $500 for a single one. What something is worth is relative to the buyer.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: MMB on Thu, 04 October 2012, 19:37:33: When imsto brings back white/beige with cherry legends, this will be obsolete. I know some people just like collecting originals, but in the end it's the same s**t.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 04 October 2012, 20:06:02: That keyboard has an integrated card reader too.

Did anyone notice that??
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: litster on Thu, 04 October 2012, 20:07:34: Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 04 October 2012, 19:25:29
It's ironic that you guys all laugh at them and call them idiots, and to turn around and look at us and see that most of us will jump on a $50 CC, and even pay up to $500 for a single one. What something is worth is relative to the buyer.

How much one values genuine Cherry PBT dye sub is one thing. Showing your high bids 2 days before the eBay auction ends is another.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: litster on Fri, 05 October 2012, 19:14:04: Some of the noob bidders are also bidding here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-MX-RGB-Keyboard-Keycaps-doubleshot-dye-sub-desko-/261105699485
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Alessandro on Sat, 06 October 2012, 14:17:04: Well that was crazy...
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: DanGWanG on Sat, 06 October 2012, 14:18:22: LOL $405....
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 06 October 2012, 14:50:18: Quote from: MagicMeatball on Thu, 04 October 2012, 19:37:33
When imsto brings back white/beige with cherry legends, this will be obsolete. I know some people just like collecting originals, but in the end it's the same s**t.
They feel really different ._.

Oh and it wasn't me that won
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 06 October 2012, 15:40:30: HA! I got another Cherry dyesub MX last night for $35 shipped off ebay BIN listing. It's got Spanish sub legends side printed in orange too, and another windowed full touch shift lock key. Awesome. Got my eye on another one thats in auction in green legends. More people need to do thier homework and find the other 'brands' Cherry OEM'd for. Maybe after the green one auction ends I will share as there are a few more in blue just like one I already have. I just don't want the competition LOL.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 08 October 2012, 14:55:12: Ok, so they aren't exactly keyboards, but... a goldmine of dyesubs on old TA/Royal electronic typewriters. Some models are MX, some MY, but be careful, some aren't Cherry even though they look like it at first glance.
These Beta (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TA-Royal-Beta-8100-Portable-Electric-Typewriter-/280790082154?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item416064a26a) models are Cherry, as well as some Alpha (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-alpha-700D-Electronic-Daisywheel-Typewriter-/270887084855?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item3f1220e337), Gabrielle and Satellite (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Satellite-III-Electric-Portable-Typewriter-Processor-Ribbon-/221135448900?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item337cb32b44) models.
They can be had cheap and come in several colors, so some interesting alpha sets for sure. The con is you won't get complete set for modern board, but for $30-60 average instead of $300+ it's a reasonable trade off if you ask me.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 08 October 2012, 15:01:06: Quote from: lysol on Mon, 08 October 2012, 14:55:12
Ok, so they aren't exactly keyboards, but... a goldmine of dyesubs on old TA/Royal electronic typewriters. Some models are MX, some MY, but be careful, some aren't Cherry even though they look like it at first glance.
These Beta (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TA-Royal-Beta-8100-Portable-Electric-Typewriter-/280790082154?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item416064a26a) models are Cherry, as well as some Alpha (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-alpha-700D-Electronic-Daisywheel-Typewriter-/270887084855?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item3f1220e337), Gabrielle and Satellite (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Satellite-III-Electric-Portable-Typewriter-Processor-Ribbon-/221135448900?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item337cb32b44) models.
They can be had cheap and come in several colors, so some interesting alpha sets for sure. The con is you won't get complete set for modern board, but for $30-60 average instead of $300+ it's a reasonable trade off if you ask me.

Contrariwise, if you could find a working Beta typewriter, you could use (e.g.) Qwerkeys' or WASD's keycaps to make an awesome typewriter!

Edit to add a question:

Is there a source for good information about which models had MX switches? I've been missing having an actual typewriter and if I can, would be totally into pimping one out with new keycaps. For sure I'd then make the originals available to GH folk.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 08 October 2012, 15:31:02: The only one I know for a fact 100% has MX is Triumph Adler 825, as I have had one personally. Otherwise I am not sure about all other models. Out of the 3 I linked I think the satellite would be the best candidate as it is older. Most of the later ones that used Cherry at all seem to be MY as I suppose it was more cost effective.
As I said, I have one on it's way and am mostly only interested in the caps, though if it has more of the MX white linears I will want those too... but even still if you're willing to pay shipping on it I would be willing to send it on to you.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 08 October 2012, 15:42:08: Thanks; that could work out. I'd have to pay shipping anyhow.

Let me know if the machine is fully functional and clean enough to dress up with new keys. Also, I assume you'd leave the typewriter-specific keys intact.

Thanks again,

- Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 08 October 2012, 21:34:56: You think that alpha 700d really has MX compatible keycaps with green legends? If so: It's worth it!

I'll make an offer on just the caps, and see if I can get him to pull them for me. Sellers sometimes do.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Tue, 09 October 2012, 07:59:11: Oh no, it has begun.

I had a dream about these typewriter keycaps last night, and I don't even like them!

YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T ESCAPE FROM THE KEYBOARDS INSIDE OF YOU
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 09 October 2012, 11:34:52: Kurrk over at DT discoverd it, I just expanded my search to find more models... you can see the thread (http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/t-a-gabriele-7007l-caps-t3508.html), I think the Alpha and Beta are nearly identical to the gabriele model there, which is MY based.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 09 October 2012, 19:02:34: Well I just bought one for $1, so that "best offer" thing might be worthwhile.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: chaosstep on Tue, 09 October 2012, 22:35:49: let them go. lol, It's fun.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 10 October 2012, 10:19:27: Nice dv. Did you go for the Alpha? We'll see who gets thiers first now LOL.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 12 October 2012, 09:58:31: Quote from: lysol on Wed, 10 October 2012, 10:19:27
Nice dv. Did you go for the Alpha? We'll see who gets thiers first now LOL.
Yep, but I convinced him to just sell me the keycaps. I wasn't expecting him to accept my $1 offer, so we settled in the middle, for $15-$20 shipped for just the caps.

I'll post my disappointment or excitement when they arrive. They went out on the 11'th.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 12 October 2012, 10:09:00: One of mine should be arriving today, provided ups actually bother to knock so I can accept delivery...
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Fri, 12 October 2012, 10:30:27: Quote from: lysol on Fri, 12 October 2012, 10:09:00
One of mine should be arriving today, provided ups actually bother to knock so I can accept delivery...

sometimes if you leave a gaudy enough note they'll take notice and do whatever it tells them to do, like knock or leave the package :D

definitely would like to see some pics of those though, looking forward to the reverse side especially
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 12 October 2012, 11:02:50: I don't think they even come to the door sometimes to be honest. Like they just assume weekday no one home and don't even really make an attempt. I prefer to have everything sent usps since I've never had problems with the post not delivering things, but some sellers insist on ups or fedex for some damn reason.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 12 October 2012, 11:36:02: This will just make a person lust for a full set even more haha

Typing on half and half is weird, and other PBT dont feel the same as Cherry original PBT, can't imagine mixing it up
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 12 October 2012, 12:05:58: Using lasered set for the modifers isn't ideal, but it feels uniform. I mix with doubleshots and it doesn't bother me. All the letter keys (except the \|) are one thing, mods another it's ok to me.
I have some different color Cherry doubleshots set with same problem, same amount of completeness on modern board.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 12 October 2012, 12:11:25: I dunno then maybe its just me that needs it as a full set haha

Don't get me wrong I think they are gorgeous keys but having enough for just the alphanumeric is kinda odd to me esp since the colour tone doesn't match and what not

But hey like you said its a pretty good price
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: litster on Fri, 12 October 2012, 12:13:58: it is a great price for dyesub. but like tsangan, I prefer a more uniform setup physically and visually. I wish there is a full set with these colors. These typewriter caps look awesome.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 12 October 2012, 12:39:21: Well the 510 I got just arrived... turns out to be brown dyesub with orange sublegends. The base color is of course yet a different color than anything else I have :rolleyes:
More of those awesome linear white switches though, so I am still pretty pleased. Now I just need to do a good cleaning.
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01637_zps15f7e233.jpg)
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01638_zps313a1b93.jpg)
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01639_zpsd2c89977.jpg)

Unfortunately the typewriter didn't make it, arrived smashed to bits. But, that's fine as it saved me a good deal of time disassemble to pull the switch pcb.

I don't see how using these alphas and other modifier is any worse than the oldschool white with beige modifiers doubleshot sets. Same thing.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: fruktstund on Fri, 12 October 2012, 12:52:05: Looks great! Could look great on a more modern board with darker modifiers, maybe.

It's stuff like this that make me jealous of you Americans. Even though Sweden is rather close to Germany it's somewhat extremely hard to find old MX (or at least MX compatible) stuff. Someone somewhere in this country ought to have something lying around. :<
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 12 October 2012, 13:10:37: Quote from: lysol on Fri, 12 October 2012, 12:39:21
I don't see how using these alphas and other modifier is any worse than the oldschool white with beige modifiers doubleshot sets. Same thing.
Well everything kinda matches and feel the exact same when you type...

I'm just not one to mix and match too much especially sets wise and material wise, I tried out SP PBT, Cherry PBT, imsto PBT, KBC PBT and they all feel different in someways so I just couldn't see myself mixing them up. As for colour wise while those are gorgeous colours not sure how to match it and thats if I can get over the mismatch material/maker
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Alessandro on Fri, 12 October 2012, 13:19:18: That's an awesome set Lysol! I want the caps lock! :D
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 12 October 2012, 13:55:32: I know where you're coming from tsangan. Some things set me off too, but I was mostly talking about mixing Cherry with Cherry. The modifiers on modern lasered set still use the same old thick key molds, even though they don't on the letters. So you still get a uniform feel but with crummy lasered legend. I wouldn't want to mix other manufacturer either.
Title: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 12 October 2012, 15:10:10: Modern Cherry PBT laser I haven't tried personally so yeah maybe that could work out ;o
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 12 October 2012, 18:53:52: If I find some more of that model I will let you know Alessandro.
I'll take some pics with modern Cherry lasered and dyseubs tomorrow for comparisons.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 12 October 2012, 23:09:53: Too bad I don't have any lasered ones to do comparison with my dyesubs

I'm actually using a set right now, after using imsto PBT for like 3 weeks, I must say my oh my Cherry knows what they were doing haha these feel AMAZING
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: ZcHuer on Fri, 12 October 2012, 23:43:28: The windowed CAPS LOCK just looks lovely. Is it dyesub too?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 13 October 2012, 03:56:21: Quote from: tsangan on Fri, 12 October 2012, 23:09:53
I'm actually using a set right now, after using imsto PBT for like 3 weeks, I must say my oh my Cherry knows what they were doing haha these feel AMAZING

I still love using the Cherry's off some old G81's. Pity they only did the light Grey's.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: ZcHuer on Sat, 13 October 2012, 04:19:20: Quote from: ZcHuer on Fri, 12 October 2012, 23:43:28
The windowed CAPS LOCK just looks lovely. Is it dyesub too?

Another interesting thing is about the F and J keys, they are not in the normal model of Cherry G80 series or Desko BMOL.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 13 October 2012, 07:38:58: Right, they have flat F J, no nubs or scoops. All the keys on this set I just got are dyesub, except the red legend delete key which is doubleshot.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 13 October 2012, 13:25:52: Spotted this NIB G81-3100SFD (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alte-Cherry-Tastatur-Keyboard-G81-3100SFD-ahnl-G80-NEU-DIN-Stecker-/261112801434?pt=DE_Computing_Tastaturen_Keypads&hash=item3ccb89289a). Very nice new full dyesub pbt set if you don't mind ISO German layout.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 13 October 2012, 14:56:40: God I love ebay newbs... until a bid war goes on something I want.... Lol.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 15 October 2012, 18:11:13: Well, the keycaps arrived. Bad news: they are not Dyesub PBT :(

http://www.ebay.com/itm/270887084855? (Royal Alpha 700D)

Good news:
Cherry!
Beautiful green doubleshot
Center-stem capslock
Lots of cool names on the keys (I have an "XXX" key now. Who wants it?)

I recommend it to QWERTY lovers!

(Pictures incoming)
http://s92.photobucket.com/albums/l38/dork_vader/Keycaps/

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l38/dork_vader/Keycaps/DSCF9728.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l38/dork_vader/Keycaps/DSCF9733.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l38/dork_vader/Keycaps/DSCF9730.jpg)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 15 October 2012, 18:15:07: I'll take that xxx key ^___^

Sweet caps btw
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: inlikeflynn on Mon, 15 October 2012, 19:47:32: Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 15 October 2012, 18:11:13
Beautiful green doubleshot

Show Image
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l38/dork_vader/Keycaps/DSCF9730.jpg)

nice! That green looks great! I will have to keep my eyes out for a set to go on my green cased 1800
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 15 October 2012, 19:53:18: how did you know they were cherry compatible?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 15 October 2012, 20:02:25: Ah, sh!t. That was unexpected to be doubleshots. That's pretty awesome. I love the XXX key too. Everyone should have a dedicated porno key.
How Cherry compatible, because I'm the Cherry xpert son, and I said so. :))
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: sth on Mon, 15 October 2012, 20:02:56: beautiful keys.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: MMB on Mon, 15 October 2012, 20:03:38: Quote from: lysol on Mon, 15 October 2012, 20:02:25
Ah, sh!t. That was unexpected to be doubleshots. That's pretty awesome. I love the XXX key too. Everyone should have a dedicated porno key.
How Cherry compatible, because I'm the Cherry xpert son, and I said so. :))

What would that key do? Open a specific site, or location on your HDD? ;)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 15 October 2012, 20:06:45: No, it would summon (insert favorite porn star of the moment here)... LOL.
Oh, and I hope you are not too disappointed that they turned out to be doubleshots instead of dyesub. Sorry I was wrong about that.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 15 October 2012, 20:12:06: Did you do your research or get lucky?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 15 October 2012, 20:21:55: Research. Dorkvader, did the Alpha come with MY or MX? Just curious since I have one coming myself and trying to plan out if I will have enough of those white linears for some projects.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 16 October 2012, 01:17:58: Quote from: lysol on Mon, 15 October 2012, 20:21:55
Research. Dorkvader, did the Alpha come with MY or MX? Just curious since I have one coming myself and trying to plan out if I will have enough of those white linears for some projects.
I got the seller to pull the caps for me, and mail only those at a steep discount (like $15 or $20 max). I'll ask him about the switches.

It's pretty awesome. The only non-doubleshot key is the spacebar. I love green, so this is a good haul.

I got one that Lysol directly linked, but all I really needed to know was that some electric typewriters have cherry-compatible keycaps. I'm getting better at determining them from the profile. Cherry keycaps are really sharp on the edges, and they come to a nice point at the corner.

I'm making a list, but I suspect the satellite 3 and the beta 8000 have Cherry, too. This is just from the pictures, though.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: nntnam on Tue, 16 October 2012, 01:25:57: The beta 8100 is mine :D. Waiting for the invoice now :D. Thanks lysol for the great information.

BTW, the beta 8000 in ebay was made in Japan. So I think it's ALPS.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 October 2012, 08:49:56: I was just wondering if you saw it in picture if you had the seller take any more before buy the caps. No need to bother them I can just wait another couple days until mine turns up.
If it's not made in West Germany, it very unlikely to be Cherry. Beta 8000 is definitely not Cherry, that caps lock gives it away. Cherry stepped caps lock the high part is 1.25 not 1.5.
The older ones with the sperical keycaps might be something like Cherry M7 switch, but that's just a guess due to the years made before 1985 it can't be MX for sure.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 16 October 2012, 09:18:10: I saw the spherical ones: They reminded me of beam spring keycaps: whatever the case, I decided to avoid.

I'm not sure about the 8100 being PBT. In this picture the keys look a little yellowed, which I thought was a more ABS kind of thing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261072044335?
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/6/9/5/5/1/8/webimg/591981231_o.jpg
On closer inspection, they are somewhat shiny, so I'm guessing cherry DS now.

It says made in west Germany, and the layout is pretty much identical to mine, so it's a good bet for cherry DS.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 October 2012, 10:10:24: I think that is likely too, is seems to be the same thing except in color. I just wouldn't have guessed for the colored doubleshots. Either way it's some nice keycaps.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: leesofi on Tue, 16 October 2012, 10:52:21: i need green one!! cant find alpha 700..
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 October 2012, 10:58:35: Gh'ers probably bought all of them since I posted about these. Keep your eye on ebay, surely someone will list more eventually.
If you're impatient I will trade you green on white for your orange on charcoal :))
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: leesofi on Tue, 16 October 2012, 12:15:39: Quote from: lysol on Tue, 16 October 2012, 10:58:35
Gh'ers probably bought all of them since I posted about these. Keep your eye on ebay, surely someone will list more eventually.
If you're impatient I will trade you green on white for your orange on charcoal :))
haha!
orange on charoal is in my security bank.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 16 October 2012, 21:24:15: Flaunt Flaunt Flaunt
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l38/dork_vader/Keyboards/DSCF9744.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l38/dork_vader/Keyboards/DSCF9745.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l38/dork_vader/Keyboards/DSCF9754.jpg)

Lysol, do you have any cherry POM that I can replace my SP doubleshot moogle kit with? (all I need is the mods and capslock)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 October 2012, 10:50:20: The only pom set I have presently is on one of those 8113 I am still trying to sell...
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 17 October 2012, 12:56:41: Quote from: lysol on Wed, 17 October 2012, 10:50:20
The only pom set I have presently is on one of those 8113 I am still trying to sell...

Didn't someone already take the xxx key off your hands? If not, I'd take it!

- Ron | Samwisekoi
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: fruktstund on Wed, 17 October 2012, 13:18:12: Would anyone here happen to know what the likelihood of a TA (Triumph Adler?) Gabriele 7007L having dye sub keys is?
I've scoured all Swedish sites I can think of, and this is the most interesting item I've been able to find. Don't know if it's worth 250SEK (about $40 I think) to try though. <:

Also, it seems there are a lot of Gabrieles over at German eBay. Just thought I'd mention it.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 October 2012, 13:22:02: Gabriele 7007L has blue dyesub, but MY switches. It's the first one I saw that Kurrk posted at DT.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: fruktstund on Wed, 17 October 2012, 13:49:47: Ah, thanks. I thought I'd seen it somewhere! Too bad about the MY switches though.

The Gabriele 100's look a lot like the 7007L's, so I guess one can assume they are pretty much the same (at least when it comes to the keycaps and switches)?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 October 2012, 14:06:17: Hard to say, Spharx bought a 110 and it turned out to be some foam and foil amstrad switch crap. This one (http://www.ebay.de/itm/TA-Triumph-Adler-Schreibmaschine-Gabriele-PFS-/321001983556?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D2810755138292402836%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D321001983556%26) looks interesting, it has some cool looking arrows keys.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Wed, 17 October 2012, 16:26:24: http://www.totalofficesales.com/catalog/images/typewriter%202%20002.JPG

saw one of those on ebay the other day, called the seller, turned out to not have cherry caps. what did i miss? some of these look really convincing compared to the other sets in this thread which turned out to be compatible. is there any sure way to tell just by looking at them?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 October 2012, 16:40:28: That appears to be Cherry. The person probably had no idea what they were talking about, or possibly didn't even really check it out. Asides from a few minor differences, it is identical to a set I have...
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/071b0d3a.jpg)
I hope that's not the price though, they are nice typewriters, but damn.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Wed, 17 October 2012, 16:41:23: Quote from: lysol on Wed, 17 October 2012, 16:40:28
That appears to be Cherry. The person probably had no idea what they were talking about, or possibly didn't even really check it out. Asides from a few minor differences, it is identical to a set I have...

I hope that's not the price though, they are nice typewriters, but damn.

yeah, i was really confused, i seriously emailed him one of the pictures you took of your dyesub set with the reverse side of the cap, while on the phone with him, so i can't see how he could have not known what i was talking about ;(
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 October 2012, 16:56:36: There are some that have almost identical legend font to Cherry, but the corners of the keycap base are rounded not sharp. You can clearly see that the corners are sharp in the photo. I will guess they might not have been willing/able to remove a cap and just said no.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: chaosstep on Thu, 18 October 2012, 00:21:18: OMG what the price lol
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 October 2012, 09:47:04: So far I have gotten 1 set for $10, and 2 for $30. Actually whole typewriter for that price shipped... 2 broken, but they had nice MX switch too so still quite a bargain. Still waiting on my Alpha to arrive but really hoping it makes it in tact and working. It's supposedly 'as new' and is supposed to come with several font balls. I think it will be fun to play with. I guess it depend if it's MX or MY on if I will keep it or just steal the caps and get rid of it though.

edit:
My TA Alpha arrived. It turns out to have Cherry M7 switch, which is predecessor to MX. They are quite interesting.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Thu, 18 October 2012, 17:59:21: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Royal-Beta-220-electic-typewriter-/130786830435

impulse buy, hopefully i didn't screw this one up :D:D:D:D

even if i did, the last time i randomly bought a box of ??????????? cherry boards things turned out pretty well, so i'll break even at worst
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 October 2012, 23:25:50: What a bad photo! I forgot to focus, oh well... Makes me want to go around and take horrible out of focus picture and list it as 'mystery item'. If anyone bought the item I could send them any random thing at all. Brilliant!
You should be good, pretty sure it's the same thing as the Alpha, so will probably have doubleshots not dyesub too, just in blue.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Fri, 19 October 2012, 16:45:44: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Electric-Alpha-600-Typewriter-electric-typewriter-Keyboard-Vintage-/290795427339?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b4c2160b

DS or dyesubs? who knows, have at it!

(not necessarily saying it has cherry caps, you'll have to determine that for yourself ^_6--24-j56)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 19 October 2012, 19:49:25: Quote from: precarious on Fri, 19 October 2012, 16:45:44
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Electric-Alpha-600-Typewriter-electric-typewriter-Keyboard-Vintage-/290795427339?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b4c2160b

DS or dyesubs? who knows, have at it!

(not necessarily saying it has cherry caps, you'll have to determine that for yourself ^_6--24-j56)

Shipping is crazzzyyy
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 19 October 2012, 20:26:28: That ones not Cherry, you can tell because of the caps lock (Cherry stepped tall part is 1.25 always) and some other little details.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Fri, 19 October 2012, 21:26:07: Quote from: lysol on Fri, 19 October 2012, 20:26:28
That ones not Cherry, you can tell because of the caps lock (Cherry stepped tall part is 1.25 always) and some other little details.

yeah, i saw that and thought it would be pretty cool if it were -- imagining it as some crazy windowed center stemmed cherry caps lock from another dimension
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: rayuki on Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:44:42: ahh damn thats the one i just found and was like BINGO. :(
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Tue, 23 October 2012, 13:23:51: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-StarWriter-60-Portable-typewriter-vintage-/261117747297

what do those boards usually have for keys? i haven't yet bothered to do any sort of research into the hallowed depths of rare cherry caps, mostly just lazily browsing ebay while doing some work, but i wonder since they keycaps have nice corners i could slash my wrists up with.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 23 October 2012, 13:43:55: Not really sure. Seen some Cannon with alps before so maybe that. Here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/CANON-TYPEWRITER-Keyboard-NEW-PARTS-dont-know-what-model-See-Picture-/140872696383?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item20ccaac23f) one with the keys assembly removed, it's plate so very likely mech of some sort. Since they have it out of the typewriter it might be easier to get them to take some additional pictures, remove caps etc and much cheaper too due to the shipping.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Fri, 02 November 2012, 19:53:18: Quote from: precarious on Thu, 18 October 2012, 17:59:21
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Royal-Beta-220-electic-typewriter-/130786830435

impulse buy, hopefully i didn't screw this one up :D:D:D:D

even if i did, the last time i randomly bought a box of ??????????? cherry boards things turned out pretty well, so i'll break even at worst

http://imgur.com/a/2VrDJ

some pictures of it there, haven't been able to look at it personally yet since i had it shipped elsewhere, but looks like my blurry photo impulse buy turned out pretty nice
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 02 November 2012, 20:10:12: Looks very cool! What are those switches like? They don't look like MX or MY's
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 03 November 2012, 13:11:33: Those are original MY switch. So is it all doubleshots or just the blue keys and the rest is dyesub or?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: nntnam on Sat, 03 November 2012, 13:44:29: LOL. I bought the same set too. They are all DS. Brown on grey keycaps. I thought they are dyesub :( .
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Sat, 03 November 2012, 16:15:40: only the blue keys are doubleshots, the rest are dyesubs

left shift is kind of interesting, the center post seems in the right spot but the other two are set ever so slightly further out than on a cherry doubleshot left shift of the same size

are they really older MY switches? wondering if they're any good (compared to the new awful ones), didn't really spend any time typing on them though before i removed the caps
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Tue, 27 November 2012, 13:04:24: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Beta-8100-Home-Typing-System-Business-Office-Electronic-Typewriter-Vintage-/370700139470

not pbt but looks like another set of 8100 with doubleshots as previously seen in this thread

any idea what profile those keys are on the side? would be nice if they were magically 1.25x bottom row cherry

pic from elsewhere in the thread: http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/6/9/5/5/1/8/webimg/591981231_o.jpg
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: MMB on Tue, 27 November 2012, 13:54:31: those look beat up as hell
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 27 November 2012, 14:24:00: The left side keys are 1x1.25 imagine numpad + key cut off at the top I guess. For the price it's not bad, especially if it has the M8 switches. Those are the ones that are basically same as MX but linear white.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: inlikeflynn on Thu, 29 November 2012, 07:56:01: pure craziness with these new listings:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G80-1500SAU-MX-Black-Switch-Sublimation-printing-Keycap-Keyboard-PS2-/281031433752?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item416ec75e18
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G80-1000SAU-MX-Black-Switch-Sublimation-printing-Keycap-Keyboard-PS2-/281031433118?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item416ec75b9e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Cherry-G80-3000SAU-MX-Black-Switch-Sublimation-printing-Keycap-Keyboard-PS2-/281031429855?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item416ec74edf
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 29 November 2012, 08:31:07: Crazy is right. Added to watch-list for the laughs.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: hluo87 on Thu, 29 November 2012, 09:55:42: they are expensive!!!
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 29 November 2012, 09:56:28: Dafuq? This **** is just getting retarded. The 1500 is also surely a frakenboard since they were made for German health system. Also it appears that the 1500 and 1000 have been plate modded? Strange.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Thu, 29 November 2012, 09:57:19: after typing on those typewriter PBT caps for a while and then switching to my shined up doubleshot board last night, i guess i can see why someone with a little more disposable income would spend this much, they're just a lot nicer to type on.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 29 November 2012, 10:03:07: Sure they are nice, but those price is just silly. I could see $250 maybe. The worst thing is they probably got them from some Chinese e-waste place for $2.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Thu, 29 November 2012, 10:13:42: yeah, i'd often wondered if it would be easiest to just try and get some kind of electronics recycling thing going to try and source old boards. i went to a loca lshop a few months ago who told me they'd just finished filling up a dumpster with a ton of old boards, some of which were almost assurably cherry. pretty hilarious how all these nice old boards get thrown out in favor of new flimsy crappy ones ;00000
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Alessandro on Thu, 29 November 2012, 10:15:23: Quote from: precarious on Thu, 29 November 2012, 10:13:42
yeah, i'd often wondered if it would be easiest to just try and get some kind of electronics recycling thing going to try and source old boards. i went to a loca lshop a few months ago who told me they'd just finished filling up a dumpster with a ton of old boards, some of which were almost assurably cherry. pretty hilarious how all these nice old boards get thrown out in favor of new flimsy crappy ones ;00000

Because people like to keep up with the modern shiny sheed yo. -_-
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: jeroplane on Mon, 24 December 2012, 01:02:40: Quote from: precarious on Tue, 27 November 2012, 13:04:24
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Beta-8100-Home-Typing-System-Business-Office-Electronic-Typewriter-Vintage-/370700139470

not pbt but looks like another set of 8100 with doubleshots as previously seen in this thread

any idea what profile those keys are on the side? would be nice if they were magically 1.25x bottom row cherry

pic from elsewhere in the thread: http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/6/9/5/5/1/8/webimg/591981231_o.jpg

So I ended up picking up the keys in this listing as the seller was nice enough to pull all the keys and ship them to Australia for a reasonable price. I learnt that post-sale service is miles better than pre-sale service.

The key caps are dark grey on beige doubleshots (they match the beige from my white/beige DS set). So their colour is much darker in person than in the images. They are in much better condition than that second image (which is not the same board). They are not shiny at all and all have their original texture. The only visible wear is some yellowing on the blue keys, while the beige keys don't seem to be noticeably yellowed.

I'll put up some pics soon. Very happy with this pick up and they shall be going on my Poker and matched with the purple GMK mods :)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: jeroplane on Mon, 24 December 2012, 10:42:01: It seems the yellowing shows up on camera, but is really not that noticeable in person.

(http://i.imgur.com/wuAEW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XrKNW.jpg)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: noxwood on Tue, 25 December 2012, 14:45:03: The 8000's are not Cherry, right?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TA-Royal-Beta-8000-Electric-Typewriter-/370509686712?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item56441927b8
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: frostwoozle on Tue, 25 December 2012, 15:18:43: Quote from: noxwood on Tue, 25 December 2012, 14:45:03
The 8000's are not Cherry, right?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TA-Royal-Beta-8000-Electric-Typewriter-/370509686712?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item56441927b8

I got him to pull a cap a few months ago, scroll down to the description pictures.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Tue, 25 December 2012, 15:41:25: Quote from: noxwood on Tue, 25 December 2012, 14:45:03
The 8000's are not Cherry, right?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TA-Royal-Beta-8000-Electric-Typewriter-/370509686712?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item56441927b8

according to lysol anything with that semi-stepped caps lock isn't, also on some other models or pictures of that same model you can see they have rounded corners instead of good ol' sharp cherry slashers

edit: but frostwoozle's answer is probably better (nice name by the way) :)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: noxwood on Tue, 25 December 2012, 23:43:04: Yeah, guess not.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 December 2012, 09:08:54: Looks like it's mitsumi.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Fri, 28 December 2012, 00:18:07: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adler-Royal-Satellite-4-Typewriter-/390518096734

after looking at this (http://www.lonestaronline.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=971563830) and this (http://www.totalofficesales.com/catalog/images/typewriter%202%20002.JPG) i'm almost positive these are cherry dye subs -- if not, then they're doubleshots with dyed sublegends; not sure why they'd do that, though. i'm typing on an almost identical set (http://imgur.com/a/2VrDJ) right now and after looking at enough of those typewriters i don't see how they couldn't be cherry caps. the problem is i contacted the guy via e-mail, with a picture, and even called him on the phone and he kind of hurriedly came back and said they didn't match and hung up. that was about two months ago. i'm thinking he either couldn't get the keycap off with ease or didn't care enough, so, someone else should probably contact this guy and figure out what is going on since it has been relisted about 50 times now and i'm tired of looking at it. :)

if they are dyesubs, you can automatically win at life (http://i.imgur.com/4Ysij.jpg) and enjoy a superior typing experience. the only thing keeping me from contacting the person again are the sublegends, they're a little less pleasing to look at than on the set i have, but you can't deny the feel of cherry pbt.

that caps lock is also center stemmed.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: jeroplane on Fri, 28 December 2012, 01:36:59: Very nice. The positioning of the legends means that it's almost a sure bet that they're dyesubs. If only I lived in the States, I would be picking this up right away.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 28 December 2012, 11:58:17: Quote from: precarious on Fri, 28 December 2012, 00:18:07
i'm almost positive these are cherry dye subs -- if not, then they're doubleshots with dyed sublegends; not sure why they'd do that, though.
I am also pretty sure these are dyesub. I went through a lot of pictures, trying to start a list. Just as an added note: I don't believe ABS dyesubs exist, so they're either DS& pad print or all pad print or PBT dyesub.

Also, if you only get the keycaps shipped (under an ounce sometimes, under 2 Oz very likely) it's pretty cheap shipping, even to Australia.

maybe if I end up getting this, I'll put my green doubleshot keycaps on it, and use these on my keyboard, Since the typewriter works, it'd be a shame not to use it.

I updated my page with the guess that they are dyesub.
http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Typewriters
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 28 December 2012, 12:04:23: If anyone that is using the typewriters want some extra font wheels and ribbons I have some I don't want.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: damorgue on Fri, 28 December 2012, 13:07:42: I posted a while back asking about typewriters. You seem to be discussing them a bit here, and I was wondering if you knew whether these are MX compatible or could estimade the odds of them being useful in any way? I didn't get any good view of them at the time, but they look double shot and sperical to me. Pics are not even taken by a potato cam.

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Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: jeroplane on Fri, 28 December 2012, 20:13:02: Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 28 December 2012, 11:58:17
Quote from: precarious on Fri, 28 December 2012, 00:18:07
i'm almost positive these are cherry dye subs -- if not, then they're doubleshots with dyed sublegends; not sure why they'd do that, though.
I am also pretty sure these are dyesub. I went through a lot of pictures, trying to start a list. Just as an added note: I don't believe ABS dyesubs exist, so they're either DS& pad print or all pad print or PBT dyesub.

Also, if you only get the keycaps shipped (under an ounce sometimes, under 2 Oz very likely) it's pretty cheap shipping, even to Australia.

maybe if I end up getting this, I'll put my green doubleshot keycaps on it, and use these on my keyboard, Since the typewriter works, it'd be a shame not to use it.

I updated my page with the guess that they are dyesub.
http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Typewriters

Nice list. Great resource for anyone looking for these.

And yeah that's exactly what I requested with the Beta 8100 caps I got this week. Except it was easier in that case as I paid the full price for the typewriter ($15) and requested to ship only the keycaps afterwards.

Are you not using your green doubleshots for anything else? I'll take them off your hands if not :)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 29 December 2012, 00:32:46: damorgue, I have seen typewriters with similar keys on eBay before. I do not believe they are MX compatible, but I don't really know for sure (Not having seen one).

jeroplane, They're on my spare grey G80-8113, which is not currently in use. I'm thinking of maybe selling it.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: jeroplane on Sat, 29 December 2012, 02:28:55: Quote from: damorgue on Fri, 28 December 2012, 13:07:42
I posted a while back asking about typewriters. You seem to be discussing them a bit here, and I was wondering if you knew whether these are MX compatible or could estimade the odds of them being useful in any way? I didn't get any good view of them at the time, but they look double shot and sperical to me. Pics are not even taken by a potato cam.

They are most likely not MX-compatible. I have seen sphericals like that on typewriters, and while the stem mount matches the cross of MX stems, I believe the four "stabilising tabs" (not sure what they're called, but the four things that connect the key cap sides to the stem mount) usually extend to the bottom of the key. So while they can be placed on MX switches, they cannot be pressed down at all.

Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 29 December 2012, 00:32:46
damorgue, I have seen typewriters with similar keys on eBay before. I do not believe they are MX compatible, but I don't really know for sure (Not having seen one).

jeroplane, They're on my spare grey G80-8113, which is not currently in use. I'm thinking of maybe selling it.

If you ever do sell it, you have a buyer right here :) I love that dark green, it's my favourite colour. I've been looking around for another Alpha 700D or 610 to get that set, but haven't found one yet.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: damorgue on Sat, 29 December 2012, 05:49:01: Quote from: jeroplane on Sat, 29 December 2012, 02:28:55
They are most likely not MX-compatible. I have seen sphericals like that on typewriters, and while the stem mount matches the cross of MX stems, I believe the four "stabilising tabs" (not sure what they're called, but the four things that connect the key cap sides to the stem mount) usually extend to the bottom of the key. So while they can be placed on MX switches, they cannot be pressed down at all.

At least that might make them usable. I am not above removing those supports to make them fit. I have removed ribs from molded parts before and it is usually very easy with a plier to remove them without damaging the rest. There are like 20 of them stacked in a shed close to where my parents live. I might go have a more thorough look sometime. I could probably only find use in the alpha block though, as the shapes and stabilizers of the others might be more of a hassle to adapt to a modern layout.

Thx
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Sat, 29 December 2012, 15:09:29: Quote from: damorgue on Sat, 29 December 2012, 05:49:01
Quote from: jeroplane on Sat, 29 December 2012, 02:28:55
They are most likely not MX-compatible. I have seen sphericals like that on typewriters, and while the stem mount matches the cross of MX stems, I believe the four "stabilising tabs" (not sure what they're called, but the four things that connect the key cap sides to the stem mount) usually extend to the bottom of the key. So while they can be placed on MX switches, they cannot be pressed down at all.

At least that might make them usable. I am not above removing those supports to make them fit. I have removed ribs from molded parts before and it is usually very easy with a plier to remove them without damaging the rest. There are like 20 of them stacked in a shed close to where my parents live. I might go have a more thorough look sometime. I could probably only find use in the alpha block though, as the shapes and stabilizers of the others might be more of a hassle to adapt to a modern layout.

Thx

(http://i.imgur.com/33gmvh.jpg)

album: http://imgur.com/a/ZBmCn

some old cherry sphericals for reference, as mentioned they will fit onto an MX stem but can't recede into the switch housing. i'd probably recommend a dremel or something for those since you'll need to grind down some of the plastic stem portion, too, but the ones you showed may be different.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: damorgue on Sat, 29 December 2012, 17:36:43: Ah, I see. I thought there were only the ribs that extended to far down and thus hit the housing. Those could easily be removed. I see the problem you mentioned now, that will be much harder to fix.

Probably going to check them out. I am visiting them now, unfortunately I don't have any keycap to compare it too, and don't have my cad files either. What is the normal diameter of the cylinder in which a normal MX socket is located in a keycap?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: jeroplane on Sat, 29 December 2012, 19:05:08: Quote from: damorgue on Sat, 29 December 2012, 17:36:43
Ah, I see. I thought there were only the ribs that extended to far down and thus hit the housing. Those could easily be removed. I see the problem you mentioned now, that will be much harder to fix.

Probably going to check them out. I am visiting them now, unfortunately I don't have any keycap to compare it too, and don't have my cad files either. What is the normal diameter of the cylinder in which a normal MX socket is located in a keycap?

Don't have calipers for a more accurate measurement, but it's approx. 6mm at most.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Tue, 15 January 2013, 18:40:51: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adler-Royal-Satellite-4-Typewriter-/221177572158

blue cherry dyesub pbt ;0
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 15 January 2013, 19:14:03: Quote from: precarious on Tue, 15 January 2013, 18:40:51
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adler-Royal-Satellite-4-Typewriter-/221177572158

blue cherry dyesub pbt ;0
If someone buys this, please post. I would like confirmation for the resource I'm building.
http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Typewriters
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Tue, 15 January 2013, 19:50:52: Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 15 January 2013, 19:14:03
Quote from: precarious on Tue, 15 January 2013, 18:40:51
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adler-Royal-Satellite-4-Typewriter-/221177572158

blue cherry dyesub pbt ;0
If someone buys this, please post. I would like confirmation for the resource I'm building.
http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Typewriters

they're definitely dye subs, i have a set, not sure about the switches though since i only had the seller send the keycaps. didn't really think about it until afterwards but it might have been nice if it had the older linear ones.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 15 January 2013, 22:31:50: Yeah, same as this...
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/d20657e4.jpg)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Wed, 16 January 2013, 06:30:24: i should have remembered that picture, since i'd seen it before -- oh well!

how are those switches compared to modern / vintage blacks, or something they're similar to?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 16 January 2013, 14:40:22: In between black and red.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: kriminal on Thu, 17 January 2013, 07:58:31: i have original cherry DS on my filco, they feel way different... but no im also not a bidder lolol
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Sat, 19 January 2013, 15:09:39: (http://i.imgur.com/laxB69j.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/f7TH1Pt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3eTe3oj.jpg)

album: http://imgur.com/a/YyNqc

green cherry dyesubs from a recent purchase, as well as a quick comparison of blue, green, and gray/black dyesubs from a few royal typewriters
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 19 January 2013, 15:36:55: Very nice.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: jeroplane on Sun, 20 January 2013, 08:21:30: Quote from: precarious on Sat, 19 January 2013, 15:09:39
album: http://imgur.com/a/YyNqc

green cherry dyesubs from a recent purchase, as well as a quick comparison of blue, green, and gray/black dyesubs from a few royal typewriters

Wow, those were packaged real nice. Also very nice find.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 20 January 2013, 22:54:51: Those green dyesubs are excellent.

Do you mind sharing which typewriter model they came from?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Mon, 21 January 2013, 04:12:25: royal alpha 115 for the greens, beta 220 for the black/gray w/ blue code key, satellite 4 for the blue dyesubs
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sat, 26 January 2013, 21:08:52: No really cheap but you can make an offer: Triumph Adler Satellite 8 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TA-ADLER-ROYAL-SATELLITE-8Typewriter-USED-Good-Condition-TESTED-/190690375781?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c66083865)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sun, 27 January 2013, 21:56:50: First fo all excuse me for the double-post :P

(http://i.imgur.com/3dfUC2N.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xdzZ5rJ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6tjrbDS.jpg)

Those keys look like the ones on the Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007L but that typewriter is a Triumph Adler CompacTA 400. Do we have another source for Dye Subs?

I'm probably getting one for 10€ here in Spain and we will see what it has.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Mon, 28 January 2013, 09:59:38: (http://i.imgur.com/334wwUv.jpg)

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39491.msg773357

the ones you those are probably dyesubs, the layout is almost identical to the satellite 4 (above) which has blue dye subs
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 28 January 2013, 13:12:44: Yes, same but there is no legend on the lock and shift for some reason.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: guilleguillaume on Mon, 28 January 2013, 14:16:55: ES layout Dye Sub keycaps :D

I will try to get my hands on it.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 28 January 2013, 15:19:42: I'm sure it would be easier to get your hands on than a 3000S*E/S*AES.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 03 February 2013, 00:47:58: Finally got around to updating the typewriter topic (needs a new title though I can't think of a better one) with precarious' and guilleguillaume's info

http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Typewriters

Please PM me or post here if there are any errors, mistakes, updates, etc.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Fri, 08 February 2013, 05:56:39: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adler-815-Electric-Portable-Typewriter-/221184035053

an interesting model with some windowed keycaps in the mix
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: guilleguillaume on Mon, 11 February 2013, 19:58:29: I already posted this on DT but I think some guys will like those sets even if they are not cheap:

BSP Europe Dye Sub (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.31.OkjDMB&id=22356768463)

(http://i.imgur.com/o5Dzxqp.jpg)

Desko Dye Sub (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.24.OkjDMB&id=22355776207)

(http://i.imgur.com/aw2GEmV.jpg)

By the way I managed to get a Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007L with ES layout that I still have to receive . The deal with that CompacTA 400 didn't go trough because the seller didn't respond anymore after sharing some emails.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: guilleguillaume on Tue, 19 February 2013, 04:43:10: Quoting my posts in Deskthority you can see how I'm talking about another source of Dye Sub keycaps.

Quote from: guilleguillaume
I got a nice surprise today with a Triumph Adler CompacTA 600 that also has MY Linear switches.

Quote
It has Dye Sub keycaps and AWESOME MY linear switches that feel fantastic, almost as vintage MX Black.

I didn't need to open any switch because there is a key that uses a switch as stabiliser with a different Stem so it doesn't activate the switch. I can see how it's made and will take pictures of it so everyone can see innards of the switch.

They don't use any spring and instead use some kind of metal leaf in the bottom left of the switch. They feel fantastic and nothing to do with the ones that 7007L has. This typewriter was in better condition and must be because of that that the switches feel way better.

Will post the pictures once I've cleaned all the keys.

You can see pictures here: Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007L (ES layout) (http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/triumph-adler-gabriele-7007l-es-layout-t5194.html#p100239)

Will add more pictures of both typewriters once I've cleaned all the keycaps.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Thu, 21 February 2013, 11:58:54: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160978274072

really nice dyesubs ;0
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: guilleguillaume on Thu, 21 February 2013, 12:07:05: Quote from: precarious on Thu, 21 February 2013, 11:58:54
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160978274072

really nice dyesubs ;0

Really nice one. Too bad it's in USA for me :P
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 February 2013, 12:42:45: Yes another nice one, I have a set just like it though my shift lock was windowed. I would definitely try to get caps only on that one as it will have M7 switches for sure. Paying to have the whole unit shipped is mostly a huge waste of money.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: precarious on Thu, 21 February 2013, 13:01:31: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 February 2013, 12:42:45
Yes another nice one, I have a set just like it though my shift lock was windowed. I would definitely try to get caps only on that one as it will have M7 switches for sure. Paying to have the whole unit shipped is mostly a huge waste of money.

asked him about shipping the caps / keyboard section only and he said "What would be a more affordable shipping option? I think this will weigh about 30 lbs ready to ship. I don't want to take it apart."

so who knows keep trying maybe
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: guilleguillaume on Thu, 21 February 2013, 13:35:21: By the way I just made a compilation of pictures of typewriters that have or should have Dye Sub Chery MX compatible keycaps.

Will update them tomorrow so we can play the guess game and see if they really look like Dye Sub.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: deltr on Fri, 22 February 2013, 07:51:25: Quote from: guilleguillaume on Thu, 21 February 2013, 13:35:21
By the way I just made a compilation of pictures of typewriters that have or should have Dye Sub Chery MX compatible keycaps.

Will update them tomorrow so we can play the guess game and see if they really look like Dye Sub.

Looking forward to that!
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: guilleguillaume on Fri, 22 February 2013, 08:53:08: Some pictures of the models that have Dye Sub or double-shot keycaps. There are some missing that I didn't save on the computer and all the pictures have been taken from Ebay, Deskthority and Geekhack.

Triumph Adler Gabriele Cyclo

(http://i.imgur.com/a9Yg4Zw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FZzer4l.jpg)

Triumph Adler CompacTA 600 DS

(http://i.imgur.com/OvbNuDt.jpg)

Triumph Adler CompacTA 400 DS

(http://i.imgur.com/lM7OrB0.jpg)

Triumph Adler CompacTA SE 410 & SE 410 L

(http://i.imgur.com/mRwFvkG.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/RsU2vLv.jpg)

TA Royal Beta 8100

(http://i.imgur.com/Ckk9MSu.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5RVxbGB.jpg)

TA Royal satellite III

(http://i.imgur.com/2fncbwP.jpg)

Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007L

(http://i.imgur.com/5DaWAZg.jpg)

TA Royal Satellite 8

(http://i.imgur.com/Eg1ddVk.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/2Bd7RMC.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BVY4mkc.jpg)

TA Royal Satellite 4

(http://i.imgur.com/WRHeGy4.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dPlAOrk.jpg)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Acetrak on Fri, 22 February 2013, 09:41:30: Are the legends on the front of the keycaps pad printed or are those dyesubbed as well?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 22 February 2013, 12:08:11: On dyesubs all is dyesub. Front print on doubleshots ones (Alpha, Beta, maybe others?) are pad print of course.
Nice mini guide guilleguillaume. I am sure some will find that really helpful.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 22 February 2013, 12:38:28: Thanks for the compilation, guilleguillaume, I'll add all that information to my list once I am home.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Wed, 01 May 2013, 21:45:51: Just ordered this Royal Alpha 110 from ebay:

[attachimg=1]

Can anyone confirm if the caps on the 110 are mx compatible? I know I've seen a doubleshot version of that "code" key before, not sure where, probably in classifieds, and I was thinking the green on gray caps are dyesubs...
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:26:09: Yes they are Cherry doubleshots. I think this model has the white linear MX switch too.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:35:51: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:26:09
Yes they are Cherry doubleshots. I think this model has the white linear MX switch too.

Doubleshots for the alphas, too? And maybe some mx switches? Nice.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: codyeatworld on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:36:47: So this is where the code key comes from...

I bought the last one to pop in the classifieds, but it was blue :)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 02 May 2013, 11:02:18: Right they are all doubleshots. I have almost identical set, but sadly my CODE key is 1x1.25 so it is essentially useless, but the XXX key makes up for it a little :))
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:48:52: So, the typewriter arrived today just as I was heading out the door, not enough time for photos, but I am able to confrim the keycaps are cherry compatible - dye-subs for the gray keys, doubleshots for the bright green. Switches are pre-mx linears of some kind, probably m7's. I don't like them - they are heavier than mx blacks with a weird progressive force curve - longer travel than mx, gets heavier as you press down on them. All in all not bad though, that code key is pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 05 May 2013, 07:48:11: Don't forget to check the carriage return mechanism inside for a gen1 MX white.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Sun, 05 May 2013, 19:45:42: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 05 May 2013, 07:48:11
Don't forget to check the carriage return mechanism inside for a gen1 MX white.

Curiously enough, my carriage return uses an MX black:
[attachimg=1]

And the actual typewriter switches - Cherry, but what the heck are these?
[attachimg=2]
[attachimg=3]

And the keycaps - the doubleshot "Code" key on my Dolch:
[attachimg=4]

One of the dye-subs and the other doubleshot:
[attachimg=5]
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sun, 05 May 2013, 21:07:30: Very nice pictures!
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 05 May 2013, 21:09:44: Make those 1920x1200 if you can, I'd love some more keyboard related desktop backgrounds!
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 05 May 2013, 23:50:49: Man, that Cyan backspace and those green caps are stunning. I'd love to have a modifier pack of those coupled with white.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 06 May 2013, 01:16:59: Quote from: Dianoda on Sun, 05 May 2013, 19:45:42
And the actual typewriter switches - Cherry, but what the heck are these?
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
They look like the vintage MY found on many typewriters.

Excellent keycaps! I've always liked the typewriter keycaps, and this is my favourite of the lot (dyesub green!) even the doubleshots are nice. I had a few doubleshots in the same colourway with my typewriter keycaps. Excellent pictures, too.

The fulltouch "LOCK" key is great, but it's a shame both shift's are the same size.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 06 May 2013, 07:01:45: Having 2x 2.25 shifts is not a bad thing if you wanted a nice set for Leopold FC660...
Yes those are old MY switch, like revision 2, quite a bit better than the rev3 MY most people rightly despise.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Tue, 07 May 2013, 23:07:48: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adler-Royal-Meteor-II-Typewriter-Portable-Electric-Nice-Vintage-/161022649685?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item257db2a555 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adler-Royal-Meteor-II-Typewriter-Portable-Electric-Nice-Vintage-/161022649685?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item257db2a555)

No bids yet, opening bid is $27.75 + $18.75 shipping

I'm pretty sure these caps are cherry compatible - I can see part of the switches in one of the photos (third picture with the flash, look at the outline of the z+x+c keys), and it looks to be the same Cherry MY switches as the Royal Alpha typewriter I just bought. Price is more than I'd be willing to pay (as I'm not a huge fan of this colorway), but that red on light gray/beige code key is pretty cool looking.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 07 May 2013, 23:55:42: I sort-of want to start a typewriter "code" key collection.
Hopefully I'll find some time to update the list.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 07:59:58: Yes that one has brown and redorange dyesub on creamy grey. I have a set just like them, though my shift lock key is windowed, from a different model.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:43:51: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Word-Processor-Typewriter-Royal-Signet-Working-Vintage-Portable-/140972263029?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item20d29a0675 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Word-Processor-Typewriter-Royal-Signet-Working-Vintage-Portable-/140972263029?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item20d29a0675)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Signet-25-Typewriter-Word-Processor-Portable-1980-s-VG-Condition-/200922837152?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item2ec7ef30a0 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Signet-25-Typewriter-Word-Processor-Portable-1980-s-VG-Condition-/200922837152?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item2ec7ef30a0)

Prices are way up there, but are these the source of the blue code key? Although it looks like the code keys are oddly shaped - doesn't seem to be cherry B profile but that could just be odd lighting...
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: guilleguillaume on Thu, 09 May 2013, 00:37:34: The keys don't look like Cherry compatible to me because of the rounded edges.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Thu, 09 May 2013, 00:47:31: Quote from: guilleguillaume on Thu, 09 May 2013, 00:37:34
The keys don't look like Cherry compatible to me because of the rounded edges.

Yeah, I think you are right. Nevermind then, nothing to see here...
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 May 2013, 09:22:44: Made in Japan models, never Cherry. Only those marked made in W. Germany can be Cherry.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Peter on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:33:05: Here's another :

Hermes H 16
[attach=1]

It's the same typewriter as Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 L .
Mine has double-shot 'erase backwards'-key and a white carriage-return switch ..
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:24:51: Decent deal on a Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 typewriter (vintage PBT dye subs) if you are in the UK (free next day shipping for UK buyers, according to the listing, at least):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TA-Triumph-Adler-Gabriele-7007-DS-Electonic-Typewriter-/370860286593?pt=UK_BOI_Office_Equipment_Supplies_Office_Equipment_ET&hash=item5658fee281

edit: Okay, I'm not sure if these are MX compatible caps or not - there is a difference between the 7007 and 7007L, apparently (7007L - definitely MX compatible, 7007 - unknown).
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:36:17: Quote from: Peter on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:33:05
Here's another :

Hermes H 16
(Attachment Link)

It's the same typewriter as Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 L .
Mine has double-shot 'erase backwards'-key and a white carriage-return switch ..

This made me go look up Hermes typewriters. Now I really want a mint chocolate chip cap set for my white RK9000

(http://i.imgur.com/s5u2yTf.jpg)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dgsbllx on Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:39:04: Quote from: Dianoda on Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:24:51
Decent deal on a Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 typewriter (vintage PBT dye subs) if you are in the UK (free next day shipping for UK buyers, according to the listing, at least):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TA-Triumph-Adler-Gabriele-7007-DS-Electonic-Typewriter-/370860286593?pt=UK_BOI_Office_Equipment_Supplies_Office_Equipment_ET&hash=item5658fee281

edit: Okay, I'm not sure if these are MX compatible caps or not - there is a difference between the 7007 and 7007L, apparently (7007L - definitely MX compatible, 7007 - unknown).

Nice find. Does anybody know if these are MX compatible?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:57:59: Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:36:17
Quote from: Peter on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:33:05
Here's another :

Hermes H 16
(Attachment Link)

It's the same typewriter as Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 L .
Mine has double-shot 'erase backwards'-key and a white carriage-return switch ..

This made me go look up Hermes typewriters. Now I really want a mint chocolate chip cap set for my white RK9000

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/s5u2yTf.jpg)

keycaps can make a person hungry...case in point ^^^....anybody for ice cream?
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 23 July 2013, 21:09:45: Quote from: Dgsbllx on Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:39:04
Quote from: Dianoda on Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:24:51
Decent deal on a Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 typewriter (vintage PBT dye subs) if you are in the UK (free next day shipping for UK buyers, according to the listing, at least):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TA-Triumph-Adler-Gabriele-7007-DS-Electonic-Typewriter-/370860286593?pt=UK_BOI_Office_Equipment_Supplies_Office_Equipment_ET&hash=item5658fee281

edit: Okay, I'm not sure if these are MX compatible caps or not - there is a difference between the 7007 and 7007L, apparently (7007L - definitely MX compatible, 7007 - unknown).

Nice find. Does anybody know if these are MX compatible?

The whole ebay image viewer is broken for me, but they sure look MX compatible from what I see
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Wed, 04 December 2013, 22:55:17: I believe these are vintage Cherry/BSP dye-subs (looks like navy and light blue on light gray), not sure about switches, probably vintage MY's (if so, the keycaps should be MX compatible) - just note that this ships from Alaska...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIMPLE-PORTABLE-ELECTRIC-TYPEWRITER-TA-ADLER-ROYAL-GABRIELE-CYCLO-works-well-/171186826509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27db87ad0d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIMPLE-PORTABLE-ELECTRIC-TYPEWRITER-TA-ADLER-ROYAL-GABRIELE-CYCLO-works-well-/171186826509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27db87ad0d)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 05 December 2013, 10:23:43: Nope. Check the corner of keycap, it's too rounded.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Thu, 05 December 2013, 13:13:17: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 05 December 2013, 10:23:43
Nope. Check the corner of keycap, it's too rounded.

You're probably right. Although the vintage dye-subs caps I have from TA typewriters are similar when it comes to rounded corners, and they are MX compatible. Here's a pic - the vintage dyesubs are the 3 teal on light gray keys on the numberpad, the other keys are imsto dyesubs and modern BSP dyesubs:

(http://i3.minus.com/ibwoCVXA98Y9HH.jpg)

I was also able to track down a few more pictures of the various Cyclo models, some were manufactured in Germany, some in the Czech Republic. Based on color scheme I think this model is from the Czech Republic, I suppose that makes it less likely for these keycaps to be MX compatible.

If anyone's interested in these, before you bid consider contacting the seller and see if they'll pull a cap for you.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 05 December 2013, 17:46:14: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 05 December 2013, 10:23:43
Nope. Check the corner of keycap, it's too rounded.
Reallyhard to tell with the pictures being that shaky, but the corners might be too rounded.

I was going to reject it on the basis of having too much area on the top of the keycap. Again. too hard to say for sure without better images. Those are like the ones where I accidentally press the button when I'm moving the camera to a new angle, except worse.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:34:52: You can see it best in the third picture, very clear ^ gap between the spacebar and adjacent keys like how SP keys do. On Cherry it's hard straight lines.
I have a very good eye for these things, having to rely on equally bad or even worse than those picture when buying. I have only been wrong about Cherry keys one time in my own purchasing.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 06 December 2013, 17:28:07: this guy has quite a few dyesub sets for sale, and one very interesting one..

http://shop107253296.taobao.com/category-820052253.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4010-4494308221.7.78JMV5&search=y&catName=%BC%FC%C5%CC%C0%E0&v=1#bd

the one that caught my attention :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4002-4494308226.43.78JMV5&id=36091150935

also some nice ansi sets.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 07 December 2013, 12:29:53: Czech/US set from Peacock G81-3004SAT, those are indeed very nice.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 07 December 2013, 12:43:54: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 07 December 2013, 12:29:53
Czech/US set from Peacock G81-3004SAT, those are indeed very nice.
Thanks for the identification :) Good to know that tab is an original Cherry dyesub, not a replacement. It looked very odd to me at first.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 07 December 2013, 13:47:41: Well they made a frankenset with some ANSI one...
(http://i.imgur.com/mm0NKZD.jpg)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: boardcolletor on Tue, 10 December 2013, 23:30:12: Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 06 December 2013, 17:28:07
this guy has quite a few dyesub sets for sale, and one very interesting one..

http://shop107253296.taobao.com/category-820052253.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4010-4494308221.7.78JMV5&search=y&catName=%BC%FC%C5%CC%C0%E0&v=1#bd

the one that caught my attention :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4002-4494308226.43.78JMV5&id=36091150935

also some nice ansi sets.

It seems we can not directly place the order on Taobao.com. But can here for the keyboard cap:

http://www.pabbos.com/36091150935.shtml

(http://img01.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i1/10521030805161136/T15KFaFt0aXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 14 December 2013, 07:54:57: Quote from: boardcolletor on Tue, 10 December 2013, 23:30:12
Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 06 December 2013, 17:28:07
this guy has quite a few dyesub sets for sale, and one very interesting one..

http://shop107253296.taobao.com/category-820052253.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4010-4494308221.7.78JMV5&search=y&catName=%BC%FC%C5%CC%C0%E0&v=1#bd

the one that caught my attention :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4002-4494308226.43.78JMV5&id=36091150935

also some nice ansi sets.

It seems we can not directly place the order on Taobao.com. But can here for the keyboard cap:

http://www.shopitchina.com/item/36091150935

Show Image
(http://img01.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i1/10521030805161136/T15KFaFt0aXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg)

Taobao requires the use of a proxy/agent which is what that site is that you listed. There are many to choose from and even a few forum members who proxy as well.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 08 January 2014, 23:14:27: Those typewriters had some really interesting keys.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:39:09: Blue "CODE" key resurfaces, plus some interesting vintage cherry dyesubs (also note the MX black carriage return switch): http://www.ebay.com/itm/121286307872 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/121286307872)

Couldn't help myself I totally ordered this.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:50:19: TA Royal Alpha 115: teal/bright green on light gray PBT dye-subs w/ green CODE key if anyone's interested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d)
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:22:53: Quote from: Dianoda on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:50:19
TA Royal Alpha 115: teal/bright green on light gray PBT dye-subs w/ green CODE key if anyone's interested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d)

$40 shipping.....
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:25:40: Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:22:53
Quote from: Dianoda on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:50:19
TA Royal Alpha 115: teal/bright green on light gray PBT dye-subs w/ green CODE key if anyone's interested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d)

$40 shipping.....

You could contact the seller and see if they will sell just the caps.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:28:10: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:25:40
Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:22:53
Quote from: Dianoda on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:50:19
TA Royal Alpha 115: teal/bright green on light gray PBT dye-subs w/ green CODE key if anyone's interested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d)

$40 shipping.....

You could contact the seller and see if they will sell just the caps.

Somebody paid the BIN
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: Dianoda on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:30:43: Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:22:53
Quote from: Dianoda on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:50:19
TA Royal Alpha 115: teal/bright green on light gray PBT dye-subs w/ green CODE key if anyone's interested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d)

$40 shipping.....

Shipping is based on your location, and, for me at least, I see a cheaper FedEx option, ie: $32.30 economy shipping via USPS Parcel Select and a $14.16 standard shipping option via FedEx Ground.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: REVENGE on Mon, 10 March 2014, 18:46:36: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:25:40
Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:22:53
Quote from: Dianoda on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:50:19
TA Royal Alpha 115: teal/bright green on light gray PBT dye-subs w/ green CODE key if anyone's interested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Professional-Royal-ALPHA-115-Electric-Typewriter-w-Pro-Spell-Works-Great-/371020134237?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item566285f75d)

$40 shipping.....

You could contact the seller and see if they will sell just the caps.
You can also push your luck and ask for the seller to disassemble the keyboard module and send it to you.

Just in case you need some raised MX switches.
Title: Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
Post by: johndavis730 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:30:32: does anyone know if the royal signet typewriter has mx compatible keys?