I'm not really sure what you're asking. Are you implying people as in most people hate browns? Because that's really not the case. And if you're asking why individuals don't like browns, well, that's like asking why anyone doesn't like any given switch i.e. pure personal opinion.
I'm not really sure what you're asking. Are you implying people as in most people hate browns? Because that's really not the case. And if you're asking why individuals don't like browns, well, that's like asking why anyone doesn't like any given switch i.e. pure personal opinion.i noticed that it's one of the most criticized MX switches here which surprises me considering MX whites exist
people who've used browns > people who've used whites(http://deskthority.net/w/images/e/e3/Cherry_MY_--_infobox.jpg)
i think they're the two worst MX switches
As many have observed, browns seem like "dirty reds".yeah that's mostly why browns are my favorite switch so far, blues felt really "plasticky" after a while because of their click and it might have been a bad batch of switches but they clicked at different points in the actuation, they were also really annoying sounding in general compared to clicky switches like BS
I have now tried all the major Cherry mx switch types (blue, green, brown, clear, red, black). To me, blues felt like typing on rice crispies, greens were just heavier blues, browns and clears felts like someone had put sand in the works, and reds and blacks were devoid of any tactile or aural feedback. Of all these, I liked reds the best; I could use bottoming out as feedback. Blacks were also okay, but a bit too heavy.
The thing is, all Cherry switches are inherently linear. Those with feedback simply have a bump grafted onto the stem. If I were to use Cherry mx, I would prefer them without an artificial bump. I'd go for either reds or maybe vintage blacks.
Nevertheless, browns are rather popular, perhaps because they provide some degree of tactile feedback without an annoying high-pitched click. Thus, they are a happy medium between reds and blues; an okay all-purpose switch.
but that's MY not MX seriespeople who've used browns > people who've used whites
i think they're the two worst MX switchesShow Image(http://deskthority.net/w/images/e/e3/Cherry_MY_--_infobox.jpg)
but that's MY not MX seriespeople who've used browns > people who've used whites
i think they're the two worst MX switchesShow Image(http://deskthority.net/w/images/e/e3/Cherry_MY_--_infobox.jpg)
but that's MY not MX seriespeople who've used browns > people who've used whites
i think they're the two worst MX switchesShow Image(http://deskthority.net/w/images/e/e3/Cherry_MY_--_infobox.jpg)
OHbut that's MY not MX seriespeople who've used browns > people who've used whites
i think they're the two worst MX switchesShow Image(http://deskthority.net/w/images/e/e3/Cherry_MY_--_infobox.jpg)
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They feel much less "cheap" than blues IMO and I don't know what stock tactile switch other than Clears would be better(as far as Cherry switches go)
Honestly I've pretty much seen no discussion on browns, it's usually TOPRETOPRETOPRE or ERGOCLEARSONACUSTOMKOREANBOARDHNNGGH. >_>I'm not really sure what you're asking. Are you implying people as in most people hate browns? Because that's really not the case. And if you're asking why individuals don't like browns, well, that's like asking why anyone doesn't like any given switch i.e. pure personal opinion.
If you've spent any time on a keyboard forum other than reddit, you'll see that a pretty solid portion of longtime users dislike browns. I'd say up near 70%.
They feel much less "cheap" than blues IMO and I don't know what stock tactile switch other than Clears would be better(as far as Cherry switches go)
My reason for hating browns is that every batch I've used has been scratchy as hell well after their break in period. It's not a feeling I enjoy, so I've sworn off the switch at this point.
There are usually 2 groups of people. One that like the click, which will love blues/greens, one will hate the click, which will love the reds/blacks. Both group thinks that browns are meh.
The third group (I'd say considerably smaller in number) like topres, which could like browns better than blue or red, but still think brown is meh because for them all MX are meh.
Then there is clears, I guess there is some rarity associated with it...
....If you want tactile switches, the browns are much less tactile than clicky switches or clears, which have larger tactile bumps.
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Why do people hate MX browns?
i love my mx browns there just so squishy ;D if you will.
If you've spent any time on a keyboard forum other than reddit, you'll see that a pretty solid portion of longtime users dislike browns. I'd say up near 70%.
i like browns but they are somewhat a little light for me. I need harder springs so im gonna try tactoblacks :)I tried to replace 60g on Browns with 80g spring from Black before. For me, the results are pretty bad unfortunately. It is really awkward, the tactile feeling nearly disappeared. It became something like a sanded Cherry MX Black in a negative way.
....If you want tactile switches, the browns are much less tactile than clicky switches or clears, which have larger tactile bumps.
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Clicky switches do not have larger tactile bumps than Brown. You can measure it if you like, they're the same. The greater sense of tactility on clicky switches comes from the audible click and the knock you can sesne through your fingertips, the actual tactility is roughly the same as, or possibly even less than, Browns.
I hate the pretentious senior member ****heads in the offtopic forum but don't hate little keyboard switches.It's OK, they hate you too
Browns are OK.
browns are very middle of the road in a lot of ways:
in side by side comparisons brown always seems to lose because every switch does something better than browns.
this causes most enthusiasts to dislike the switch. it is also one of the more popular switches for beginners because its not to heavy, not to light, tactile but no click etc.
this causes a lot of people to "move on" from browns, because they bought them on their first board to be safe,
then like a rebellious teen they rail against the safety of their home that sheltered them in their younger days as a doe eyed keyboard enthusiast.
they think "moving on" from browns is a sign that the switch is bad and not just that they were perhaps picking a switch that was not for them.
and even those who 'like' what browns have to offer, topre is very close to browns in alot of ways, but they are much more smooth which is what many people think is wrong with browns.
but browns have always been there for you.
they wait up faithfully while you are out with other women.
"oh this board with mx clears has such a BIG tactile BUMP! and the click on these greens. . . my hands can barely handle such a heavy switch!"
browns do not mind that you need to spread your wings
they are happy for you,
and they hope they served you well while you used them.
all she asks is that you pull her out every now and then.
just for old memories sake.
remind her that she is appreciated for her faithful service.
for always being there for you
mx browns still loves you. . .
don't break her heart, she does not ask for much,
just to know that she is loved
browns are very middle of the road in a lot of ways:
in side by side comparisons brown always seems to lose because every switch does something better than browns.
this causes most enthusiasts to dislike the switch. it is also one of the more popular switches for beginners because its not to heavy, not to light, tactile but no click etc.
this causes a lot of people to "move on" from browns, because they bought them on their first board to be safe,
then like a rebellious teen they rail against the safety of their home that sheltered them in their younger days as a doe eyed keyboard enthusiast.
they think "moving on" from browns is a sign that the switch is bad and not just that they were perhaps picking a switch that was not for them.
and even those who 'like' what browns have to offer, topre is very close to browns in alot of ways, but they are much more smooth which is what many people think is wrong with browns.
but browns have always been there for you.
they wait up faithfully while you are out with other women.
"oh this board with mx clears has such a BIG tactile BUMP! and the click on these greens. . . my hands can barely handle such a heavy switch!"
browns do not mind that you need to spread your wings
they are happy for you,
and they hope they served you well while you used them.
all she asks is that you pull her out every now and then.
just for old memories sake.
remind her that she is appreciated for her faithful service.
for always being there for you
mx browns still loves you. . .
don't break her heart, she does not ask for much,
just to know that she is loved
browns are very middle of the road in a lot of ways:saved
in side by side comparisons brown always seems to lose because every switch does something better than browns.
this causes most enthusiasts to dislike the switch. it is also one of the more popular switches for beginners because its not to heavy, not to light, tactile but no click etc.
this causes a lot of people to "move on" from browns, because they bought them on their first board to be safe,
then like a rebellious teen they rail against the safety of their home that sheltered them in their younger days as a doe eyed keyboard enthusiast.
they think "moving on" from browns is a sign that the switch is bad and not just that they were perhaps picking a switch that was not for them.
and even those who 'like' what browns have to offer, topre is very close to browns in alot of ways, but they are much more smooth which is what many people think is wrong with browns.
but browns have always been there for you.
they wait up faithfully while you are out with other women.
"oh this board with mx clears has such a BIG tactile BUMP! and the click on these greens. . . my hands can barely handle such a heavy switch!"
browns do not mind that you need to spread your wings
they are happy for you,
and they hope they served you well while you used them.
all she asks is that you pull her out every now and then.
just for old memories sake.
remind her that she is appreciated for her faithful service.
for always being there for you
mx browns still loves you. . .
don't break her heart, she does not ask for much,
just to know that she is loved
Y'all need Kalih Browns in your life 4srs
I'm drafting a Kalih Brown review for all you non-believers out there. If you used them, you would be a convert.
I went from Reds to Browns and well, Browns definitely feel like "dirty Reds", but it doesn't mean they're bad.
I prefer typing on Browns, because I definitely type more accurately and accidental presses are less common. But for gaming I prefer linears - I just love that smooth feeling, even though they're a bit too light for me. I should try Blacks, maybe.
They are really nice aren't they? I'll say this again later but to me, they're everything MX Browns should be.
Y'all need Kalih Browns in your life 4srs
I'm drafting a Kalih Brown review for all you non-believers out there. If you used them, you would be a convert.
They are really nice aren't they? I'll say this again later but to me, they're everything MX Browns should be.
While there's only one other really popular tactile switch (tactile greys aren't very common), people like clears substantially more than browns on a pretty consistent basis. The two main problems people seem to have with browns is that the feel pretty scratchy, not very smooth, and that the tactile bump is barely noticeable, hence the nickname "dirty reds", while the bump in clears is much more prominentT his makes me want clears so much more.
i like browns but they are somewhat a little light for me. I need harder springs so im gonna try tactoblacks :)I tried to replace 60g on Browns with 80g spring from Black before. For me, the results are pretty bad unfortunately. It is really awkward, the tactile feeling nearly disappeared. It became something like a sanded Cherry MX Black in a negative way.
They feel much less "cheap" than blues IMO and I don't know what stock tactile switch other than Clears would be better(as far as Cherry switches go)
They feel much less "cheap" than blues IMO and I don't know what stock tactile switch other than Clears would be better(as far as Cherry switches go)Not sure people dislike browns in general. People who like a heavier switch will obviously not feel comfortable on them. I am using 65g clears right now, but I still like browns.
Needs moar ABX blind testing.Y'all need Kalih Browns in your life 4srs
I'm drafting a Kalih Brown review for all you non-believers out there. If you used them, you would be a convert.
They are really nice aren't they? I'll say this again later but to me, they're everything MX Browns should be.
They feel much less "cheap" than blues IMO and I don't know what stock tactile switch other than Clears would be better(as far as Cherry switches go)
I love them. At first I did not appreciate them, but it was my mistake.
I'm still not sure that clears are even as good.
Browns allow you to float above the keyboard with very little bottoming out. It's a unique experience (disclaimer: I have not tried ALPS switches, and I believe some ALPS are as good).
I have a hard time choosing between Trope 45g and MX browns, so I alternate. :)
But my typing style is very different on Topre than on MX brown, it's surprising and refreshing.
They are really nice aren't they? I'll say this again later but to me, they're everything MX Browns should be.is your favorite MX switch still 65g blacks? out of the three stock switches i used (black, red, brown), i like black the most because it has this smoothness that's absent in the other two, kinda like bouncing up and down on a soft cushion. it got tiring real quick though, and after reading your review, i ordered some 65g springs for any future build i might use to replace the (80g?) stock springs
is your favorite MX switch still 65g blacks?MX black with 65g/67g springs are pretty similar to green Alps. 62g is also a good weight. Stock MX red springs are much too light and MX black springs are too stiff.
62g is also a good weight.yeah, if i ever have a second custom board i'll put 62g clears into it. there's just so many possible switch/spring combinations (to speak nothing of stems and non-MX switches) that it's impossible to test out everything by myself, hence i rely a lot on reviews to help make a decision.
From my limited experience broken in browns are amazing, smooth and imo you feel the tactile bump a bit more. Using a new set of browns on my current kb and i can see why someone may not like them, I was ready to give up on browns after using a new ducky with them, but then i bought a used filco with browns that had been broken in and they made me reconsider.
Having defaulted to reds for the past several months, I'm so glad I picked up a board with Browns again. I have always liked them with the thick PBT sets and find the bump useful for both gaming and typing. I prefer having a board with Browns on the desk by default for jack of all trades use, even over my 65g ergo clear. I especially like using the arrow keys and the six pack for web navigation, the super subtle bump is just enough.
From my limited experience broken in browns are amazing, smooth and imo you feel the tactile bump a bit more. Using a new set of browns on my current kb and i can see why someone may not like them, I was ready to give up on browns after using a new ducky with them, but then i bought a used filco with browns that had been broken in and they made me reconsider.
+1. All modern MX switches need to be "worn in" to achieve their potential. They all seem to be slightly "scratchy" from the factory, with the tactile switches seeming to suffer the most. I'm going to be trying some Ghost Blacks (Blacks with Clear springs) when my latest keyboard-related package clears customs :) I'm hoping they'll go well with SA profile caps.
And by smoother, they mean worked until they offer no resistance. Sounds like a call for the reinstatement of slavery if you ask me.
Ever hear how people like browns because they're quiet and good for work, but hate them for everything else?
They feel much less "cheap" than blues IMO and I don't know what stock tactile switch other than Clears would be better(as far as Cherry switches go)
I don't hate MX brown, I just can't stand the noise every time when you bottom it out, which all the MX switch dose, which means...
I don't like MX switch really :(
...or, y'know, don't bottom out.How do you not bottom out on anything lighter than 68g?
I don't hate MX brown, I just can't stand the noise every time when you bottom it out, which all the MX switch dose, which means...
I don't like MX switch really :(
O-rings, then. It's what people do when they don't like the noise.
mostly racism.
if it was mx whites they'd all love it. but since it's brown, it's inferior.
why do you think these racists like vintage blacks more than new blacks?
****ing racists.
Easily. It took me several keyboard swaps to learn that though.
At first, I switched from some decent rubber dome to complicated white Alps or Cherry MX Black. I bottomed out all the time and felt fatigued, because of the stiffness. Getting a keyboard with MX Red and thick keycaps was a bliss; I immediately started to enjoy the cloud of boobs (barely any bottoming out). Then I finally built my ErgoDox with stock clears, but still kept the board with reds for gaming. I had to exercise a bit to rebuild strength in fingers for the clears, and I think it was crucial that I didn't abandon reds in the process. I've been able to adjust myself to almost any kind of key mechanism ever since.