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[IC] DIY Cable kits
« on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 10:55:15 »
As above, who would be interested in a custom kit that included everything you need to create your own custom cable?

I can offer kits for USB, Audio, PC etc. let me know what you think.

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Re: [IC] DIY Cable kits
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 10:58:13 »
How much skill is required to build a kit? As I am interested but have the co-ordination of a elephant.
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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 10:58:28 »
So would you be able to offer this in custom lengths?

I think it's an interesting idea, especially for those who might want to try the DIY route but have a hard time sourcing parts and/or only need a few parts and don't want to buy in bulk.

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Re: [IC] DIY Cable kits
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 11:03:09 »
So would you be able to offer this in custom lengths?

I think it's an interesting idea, especially for those who might want to try the DIY route but have a hard time sourcing parts and/or only need a few parts and don't want to buy in bulk.

Of course, I can offer lengths from 0.1m to 10m.

Thats the idea behind it, I can supply the parts at a cheaper price than buying from sellers with large MOQ and high shipping costs.

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« Reply #4 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 11:05:29 »
This seems like a good idea for trying it out. I'd be in for one just for fun.
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« Reply #5 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 11:11:15 »
I'd be interested if it were feasible for someone to do if they have never done something like that before. It could be cheaper and you could learn from it. I'm down.

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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 11:18:17 »
yes i'd be interested in this!

A DIY Filco cable would be sweet but im not sure how difficult that would be for someone who isn't experience with sleeving.
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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 11:20:08 »
I'd be interested since it seems like a fun project.

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« Reply #8 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 11:20:21 »
Not practical for the average joe to build one. If they're truly made from scratch, soldering the miniB side is a pain because the 4 pins are so tiny.

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« Reply #9 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 12:14:16 »
i like the idea, i guess it would be all about cost at the end of the day, would the reduction be enough to justify doing it yourself etc

that being said, i would get at least one just to give it a go lol
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Re: [IC] DIY Cable kits
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:07:09 »
Well I can do a nice photo guide and write up and ship it with each one. It is tough if you do not have experience and in particular the Filco crimps are tricky, perhaps I can solder the mini and crimp the filco and the let the user sleeve the USB A (which is easier), sleeve it etc.

Its just an IC, give me more feedback dudes, I love it!  ;)

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« Reply #11 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:11:45 »
Well I can do a nice photo guide and write up and ship it with each one. It is tough if you do not have experience and in particular the Filco crimps are tricky, perhaps I can solder the mini and crimp the filco and the let the user sleeve the USB A (which is easier), sleeve it etc.

Its just an IC, give me more feedback dudes, I love it!  ;)

If this is just an experiment in DIY having instruction etc sounds like a good idea!!

But I'm with Bunny all comes down to money, I would likely buy one 'set' just so I can say I 'made' a cable.

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Re: [IC] DIY Cable kits
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:14:01 »
Well obviously the kit will work out a little cheaper. I like the idea of me doing a print out and a video guide on how to solder them up. A video would be cool  :cool:

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« Reply #13 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:17:38 »
Well obviously the kit will work out a little cheaper. I like the idea of me doing a print out and a video guide on how to solder them up. A video would be cool  :cool:

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« Reply #14 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:19:28 »
Well obviously the kit will work out a little cheaper. I like the idea of me doing a print out and a video guide on how to solder them up. A video would be cool  :cool:
Any point printing stuff out? That just adds to the cost, most people will be able to just use a PDF and can print it off at home if they want? You could offer to print it off also but "SAVE THE RAINFORESTS!"
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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:20:12 »
If it's not a Filco end, I think it'd be more than manageable to work on our own cables. Especially with a fun guide.

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« Reply #16 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:28:08 »
I'm very interested in this, sounds like a great project.  :)

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« Reply #17 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:35:28 »
Sounds really interesting!

All depends on the price of the kit though ;)

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« Reply #18 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:38:13 »
I need a cool internal-connection cable for my Filco Copper project :)  Interested in how this will turn out!
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« Reply #19 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:40:55 »
I think we can all go
Well obviously the kit will work out a little cheaper. I like the idea of me doing a print out and a video guide on how to solder them up. A video would be cool  :cool:

i feel a closed beta is needed

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I think this is going to turn into 'cable making for dummies'...haha :P

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« Reply #20 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:46:31 »
I think this is going to turn into 'cable making for dummies'...haha :P

Whiskerbox already has an extensive thread on this. Doesn't mean a video wouldn't be cool though.

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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:49:18 »
I think this is going to turn into 'cable making for dummies'...haha :P

Whiskerbox already has an extensive thread on this. Doesn't mean a video wouldn't be cool though.

This is what I had in mind.

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Re: [IC] DIY Cable kits
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:57:37 »
Got an order form created, you guys interested?

I will get working on a video and a photo guide that I will sort into a JPEG or PDF,

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« Reply #23 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 14:58:28 »
Sound very interesting  ;D

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« Reply #24 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:00:57 »
What are you looking to include in the kit?  Can we choose particular colors and textures?  Basically it'll be personalized based on request but just not soldered together vs. a completely premade cable?
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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:03:18 »
What are you looking to include in the kit?  Can we choose particular colors and textures?  Basically it'll be personalized based on request but just not soldered together vs. a completely premade cable?

Yep, all of our colours are avaliable for the DIY kits, I have a large selection. Any additional sleeving types such as MDPC or steel braid can be requested.

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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:09:38 »
interested!

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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:13:45 »
Interested, pending on price :)
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Re: [IC] DIY Cable kits
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:16:21 »
What price will you be interested at?

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:19:50 »
As little as possible, because of my limited budget and recent expenses.  So you should definitely base it on realistic expenses and ignore me--I may just need to stick with pure DIY stuff for myself or to the stock cable for now, so I won't name the price--I'll just see what you'll list the kits at yourself (you know better what those components should cost).
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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:20:23 »
What price will you be interested at?

See this is the problem! We do not know how you value the time it takes you to build these!!  ;)

We would essentially be buying parts with a markup plus any costs for the instruction materials plus shipping and handling.

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Re: [IC] DIY Cable kits
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:28:04 »
Mini USB Kits:12 GBP
Unterminated Kits: 11 GBP
Filco Kits: 13GBP
Ergo Dox kits: 22GBP

Any good?

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:37:09 »
What price will you be interested at?

here is the thing

i will buy one pretty much no matter what, just to give it a go and have a cable that i made, where the pricing is more important to me is whether i would then do it again
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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:38:18 »
What about the prices above Bunny?

How are you getting along with the coiled cable? I want to roll them out soon!

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:40:59 »
What about the prices above Bunny?

How are you getting along with the coiled cable? I want to roll them out soon!

for me those prices look good, but i am a special case also being in the UK, as getting a premade cable is cheaper for me from you and more expensive from the states, im not sure how those prices hold up to Americans after exchange rate and shipping, but for me that is actually almost exactly where i would place it
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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:43:03 »
Mini USB Kits:12 GBP
Unterminated Kits: 11 GBP
Filco Kits: 13GBP
Ergo Dox kits: 22GBP

Any good?

Are these shipped prices? And what about custom size cables, different terminations etc....

I guess the thing to think about is is their a big enough difference in buying a kit versus buying the cable already to get people to go for it.

I'm in the same boat as bunny, I would probably buy at least one kit just to say I made a cable!

But at the end of the day you've got to make enough money to eat also.

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« Reply #36 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:56:02 »
I could drop the postage down if I go second class too?

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:58:09 »
I could drop the postage down if I go second class too?

as i say, i think the prices are good for uk prices, the conversion rate may hurt it for others though right now, but ill finally get a chance to own some of that blue snakey number
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« Reply #38 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 16:16:15 »
Well I will pop an order form up in a second.

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« Reply #39 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 16:23:59 »
I would be super interested in this. I'm sure I would buy a couple.

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« Reply #40 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 16:25:44 »
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« Reply #41 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 18:29:32 »
Not practical for the average joe to build one. If they're truly made from scratch, soldering the miniB side is a pain because the 4 pins are so tiny.

It is tricky, but as long as you take your time, it's not too hard.  You will probably ruin your first USB Mini B connector doing it if you're not careful, but as long as you keep your temps in check and tin the wires you should be fine.

Mini USB Kits:12 GBP
Unterminated Kits: 11 GBP
Filco Kits: 13GBP
Ergo Dox kits: 22GBP

Any good?

Not trying to threadcrap, but those prices seem kind of high to me unless the kits come with sleeving, shipping is included, or your parts costs are a much higher than the parts I source.  $12GBP comes out to almost $19 USD and that's not including shipping.  I was talking with Badwrench when I first started making my own cables about doing a DIY kit since he expressed interest, and I was planning on charging around $10-12 USD range shipped for a 6' cable kit that comes with instructions, a 6' length of cable, cut heatshrink for the ends of the sleeving, USB Mini B connector and housing, and a USB A connector and housing.   
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« Reply #42 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 18:41:48 »
Mini USB Kits:12 GBP
Unterminated Kits: 11 GBP
Filco Kits: 13GBP
Ergo Dox kits: 22GBP

Any good?

Not trying to threadcrap, but those prices seem kind of high to me unless the kits come with sleeving, shipping is included, or your parts costs are a much higher than the parts I source.  $12GBP comes out to almost $19 USD and that's not including shipping.  I was talking with Badwrench when I first started making my own cables about doing a DIY kit since he expressed interest, and I was planning on charging around $10-12 USD range shipped for a 6' cable kit that comes with instructions, a 6' length of cable, cut heatshrink for the ends of the sleeving, USB Mini B connector and housing, and a USB A connector and housing.

^^I would pay 10-12 USD for all that shipped.

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« Reply #43 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 18:59:04 »
Audio please! The AD900s are dying to have a sleeved cable.
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« Reply #44 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 19:01:55 »
I'd say though that currency conversion is an expensive deal done at a loss.  When you are in the UK, there are places like London where you'll be easily paying as much for food in number value as you would be in the U.S.  I have friends in the U.K., and I know that you can't just convert directly.  You need to convert relative to salaries and local prices.  Taking that under consideration, it could be that those cables would be more like 12GBP -> 13USD.  But of course, the actual currency conversion and paypal fees kill that parallel.
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« Reply #45 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 19:06:44 »
I cannot source the components that cheap Nub. I am in the UK and the places I get my connectors from charge massive amounts for postage and import charges, all of that often comes in at more than the price of 50 USB hoods, things seem to be a lot cheaper on the other side of the pond. If I can get the price down to 10GBP I will.

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« Reply #46 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 19:40:18 »
Yes I would be interested. Would you able to ship these DIY orders out quite fast since you aren't required to make the cables?
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« Reply #47 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 19:45:47 »
I cannot source the components that cheap Nub. I am in the UK and the places I get my connectors from charge massive amounts for postage and import charges, all of that often comes in at more than the price of 50 USB hoods, things seem to be a lot cheaper on the other side of the pond. If I can get the price down to 10GBP I will.

Could you make use of a US proxy?  If so, I'd volunteer.

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« Reply #48 on: Tue, 18 June 2013, 02:00:24 »
Yes Photekq these kits would go out very quick in terms if dispatch time.

A proxy could be cool, send me a message dude

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