Need some linux help.

[lam47]

My mouse seems to be upsetting my Ubuntu install.
I will include my xorg for anyone good with this kind of thing.
Its all new to me you see.
Issue is at the bottom where it gets stuck in some kind of loop.
Any ideas?


X.Org X Server 1.5.2
Release Date: 10 October 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-16-server x86_64 Ubuntu
Current Operating System: Linux laurie-desktop 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:15:32 UTC 2008 x86_64
Build Date: 24 October 2008  09:06:49AM
xorg-server 2:1.5.2-2ubuntu3 (buildd@crested.buildd)
   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
   to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Dec 14 16:24:51 2008
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Configured Monitor"
(**) |   |-->Device "Configured Video Device"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) No FontPath specified.  Using compiled-in default.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
   Entry deleted from font path.
(==) FontPath set to:
   /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
   /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
   /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
   /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
   /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
   /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
   /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
   If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput.
(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) Loader magic: 0x7b7320
(II) Module ABI versions:
   X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
   X.Org Video Driver: 4.1
   X.Org XInput driver : 2.1
   X.Org Server Extension : 1.1
   X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6
(II) Loader running on linux
(++) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0@1:0:0) nVidia Corporation GeForce 8800 Ultra rev 162, Mem @ 0xfa000000/16777216, 0xe0000000/268435456, 0xf8000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x0000ac00/128, BIOS @ 0x??/131072
(II) System resource ranges:
   

• -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
[1] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX

   [2] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [3] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [4] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
   [5] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX
   [6] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [7] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [8] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
   [9] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX
   [10] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [11] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [12] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
   [13] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX
   [14] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [15] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [16] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [17] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
   [18] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [19] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
   [20] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [21] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
   [22] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [23] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
(II) "extmod" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded by default.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "freetype" will be loaded by default.
(II) "record" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dri" will be loaded by default.
(II) LoadModule: "glx"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
   compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
   Module class: X.Org Server Extension
(II) NVIDIA GLX Module  177.80  Wed Oct  1 15:09:29 PDT 2008
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.2, module version = 1.0.0
   Module class: X.Org Server Extension
   ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.2, module version = 1.0.0
   Module class: X.Org Server Extension
   ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//fonts/libfreetype.so
(II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project"
   compiled for 1.5.2, module version = 2.1.0
   Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
   ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.6
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "record"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.2, module version = 1.13.0
   Module class: X.Org Server Extension
   ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.2, module version = 1.0.0
   ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
   compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
   Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  177.80  Wed Oct  1 14:50:00 PDT 2008
(II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0
(II) Loading sub module "fb"
(II) LoadModule: "fb"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so
(II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.2, module version = 1.0.0
   ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
(II) Loading sub module "wfb"
(II) LoadModule: "wfb"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so
(II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.2, module version = 1.0.0
   ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
(II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
(II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
(II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
(II) resource ranges after probing:
   

• -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
[1] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX

   [2] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [3] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [4] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
   [5] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX
   [6] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [7] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [8] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
   [9] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX
   [10] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [11] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [12] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
   [13] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX
   [14] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [15] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [16] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [17] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
   [18] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [19] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
   [20] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [21] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
   [22] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [23] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
(II) NVIDIA(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
   "Default Screen" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "NoLogo" "True"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is
(II) NVIDIA(0):     enabled.
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 8800 Ultra (G80) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 786432 kBytes
(--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 60.80.18.00.11
(II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X
(--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
(--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 8800 Ultra at
(--) NVIDIA(0):     PCI:1:0:0:
(--) NVIDIA(0):     LG W2452 (DFP-1)
(--) NVIDIA(0): LG W2452 (DFP-1): 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(0): LG W2452 (DFP-1): Internal Dual Link TMDS
(II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: DFP-1
(==) NVIDIA(0):
(==) NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default mode "nvidia-auto-select"
(==) NVIDIA(0):     will be used as the requested mode.
(==) NVIDIA(0):
(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "nvidia-auto-select"
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1200
(--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (93, 95); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config
(--) NVIDIA(0):     option
(==) NVIDIA(0): Enabling 32-bit ARGB GLX visuals.
(--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
(II) do I need RAC?  No, I don't.
(II) resource ranges after preInit:
   

• -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
[1] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX

   [2] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [3] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [4] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
   [5] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX
   [6] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [7] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [8] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
   [9] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX
   [10] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [11] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [12] -1   0   0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX
   [13] -1   0   0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX
   [14] -1   0   0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
   [15] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX
   [16] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [17] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
   [18] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [19] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
   [20] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [21] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
   [22] -1   0   0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX
   [23] -1   0   0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX
(II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART.
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "nvidia-auto-select"
(II) Loading extension NV-GLX
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
(==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
(==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
(II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL
(II) Loading extension XINERAMA
(==) RandR enabled
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP
(II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE
(II) Initializing extension GLX
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Macintosh mouse button emulation
(II) LoadModule: "evdev"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//evdev_drv.so
(II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.2, module version = 2.0.99
   Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
   ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.1
(**) Macintosh mouse button emulation: always reports core events
(**) Macintosh mouse button emulation: Device: "/dev/input/event0"
(II) Macintosh mouse button emulation: Found x and y relative axes
(II) Macintosh mouse button emulation: Found 3 mouse buttons
(II) Macintosh mouse button emulation: Configuring as mouse
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Macintosh mouse button emulation" (type: MOUSE)
(**) Macintosh mouse button emulation: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Macintosh mouse button emulation: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event1"
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: xkb_rules: "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: xkb_model: "pc105"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "gb"
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: xkb_layout: "gb"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device   USB Keyboard
(**)   USB Keyboard: always reports core events
(**)   USB Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
(II)   USB Keyboard: Found keys
(II)   USB Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "  USB Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_rules: "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_model: "pc105"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "gb"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_layout: "gb"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device   USB Keyboard
(**)   USB Keyboard: always reports core events
(**)   USB Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event2"
(II)   USB Keyboard: Found keys
(II)   USB Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "  USB Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_rules: "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_model: "pc105"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "gb"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_layout: "gb"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser
(**) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: always reports core events
(**) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: Device: "/dev/input/event4"
(II) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: Found x and y relative axes
(II) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: Found 7 mouse buttons
(II) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: Found keys
(II) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: Configuring as mouse
(II) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: xkb_rules: "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
(**) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: xkb_model: "pc105"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "gb"
(**) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: xkb_layout: "gb"
(**) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) SteelSeries ApS Ikari Laser: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.

[bigpook]

What version of Ubuntu?
Is it a new install?
Is this a new mouse?
Was there a previous mouse?
Is that previous mouse still plugged in?

[lam47]

8.10
Its a new install yes of the 64bit version. I do have compiz installed though.
It does it with both my mice.
A logitech G9
Steel series Ikari Laser.
Both are USB with built in memory.

Thanks for the reply.

[bigpook]

Hmm. I have 8.10 also and its 64 bit with compiz too.

I have a kensingtion mouse but no issues.

They changed the xorg server in 8.10. It used to be everything was configured in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

X11 can be a pain. In the past I would backup my xorg.conf to xorg.conf-bak and reboot.
This could go sideways and leave you at a command prompt or prompt you to reconfigure your X11.
Its the reconfigure part I am looking for.

This problem existed since the install or just started happening?

[lam47]

since the install. I was running 32bit before and also had the same problem.
2.6.27-9 has been locking up during start up too which is strange.
I just booted 2.6.27-7 kernal and it started fine.
It did go to the black screen that shows you all the bits and bobs being loaded during boot though.

[bigpook]

since the install. I was running 32bit before and also had the same problem.
2.6.27-9 has been locking up during start up too which is strange.
I just booted 2.6.27-7 kernal and it started fine.
It did go to the black screen that shows you all the bits and bobs being loaded during boot though.

I have 2.6.27-9 running on 2 machines with no issues.
You don't have any live cd's lying around do you?
You could boot off of one of them and see if the problem follows.

Is it possible you have a hardware issue?

[bigpook]

Unless something has been manually misconfigured,its hard to say.
Linux does a good job of recognizing keyboards, mice etc during the install and I don't remember having issues with a mouse.
Sometimes X11 doesn't get the screen resolution right, but I think they fixed that in 8.10.

Still thinking....

[lam47]

thanks bigpook.
Im just going to have a bath then I will try a live CD, thanks for trying mate

[bigpook]

If the mouse problem persists with the live cd then you may very well have some issue with hardware.

[lam47]

This is the xinput section from the live boot.
The loop which takes up about 8 pages is gone.
Is it going to do any harm just leaving it as it is?

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//evdev_drv.so
(II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.5.2, module version = 2.0.99
   Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
   ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.1
(**) Macintosh mouse button emulation: always reports core events
(**) Macintosh mouse button emulation: Device: "/dev/input/event0"
(II) Macintosh mouse button emulation: Found x and y relative axes
(II) Macintosh mouse button emulation: Found 3 mouse buttons
(II) Macintosh mouse button emulation: Configuring as mouse
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Macintosh mouse button emulation" (type: MOUSE)
(**) Macintosh mouse button emulation: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Macintosh mouse button emulation: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event1"
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: xkb_rules: "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: xkb_model: "pc105"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: xkb_layout: "us"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device   USB Keyboard
(**)   USB Keyboard: always reports core events
(**)   USB Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event5"
(II)   USB Keyboard: Found keys
(II)   USB Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "  USB Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_rules: "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_model: "pc105"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_layout: "us"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device   USB Keyboard
(**)   USB Keyboard: always reports core events
(**)   USB Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event4"
(II)   USB Keyboard: Found keys
(II)   USB Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "  USB Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_rules: "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_model: "pc105"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
(**)   USB Keyboard: xkb_layout: "us"
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
(**) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: always reports core events
(**) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
(II) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: Found 1 mouse buttons
(II) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: Found keys
(II) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Logitech G9 Laser Mouse" (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: xkb_rules: "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
(**) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: xkb_model: "pc105"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
(**) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: xkb_layout: "us"
(**) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
(**) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: always reports core events
(**) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event2"
(II) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
(II) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: Found 16 mouse buttons
(II) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: Configuring as mouse
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Logitech G9 Laser Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
(**) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Logitech G9 Laser Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200

[bigpook]

Ok, so your mouse works off of a live cd.

If so then your X11 config is hosed on your installed version

try this and see if it fixes it.


sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

[lam47]

Hmm this is strange.
Package `xserver-xor' is not installed and no info is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xor is not installed.
laurie@laurie-desktop:~$

[bigpook]

Hmm this is strange.
Package `xserver-xor' is not installed and no info is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xor is not installed.
laurie@laurie-desktop:~$

xserver-xorg

[lam47]

lol oh yeah.

[bigpook]

lol oh yeah.

yeah, I've done that before too....

[lam47]

seems to be gone! I switched the first option to yes and it seems to be OK.

[bigpook]

excellent.

[lam47]

And now its back

[lam47]

Just went through the config again. i don't think it saved properly.
The mouse seems fine now the loop is not in the xorg.
The Xorg has a load more video entries though. Is that correct?
can we upload attachments on here.
Thanks guy.



And its back. Ir seems to be caused by the graphics driver.
With the driver disabled the loop is gone.
With the effects on etc the loop is there.
Not sure what to try now.

[bigpook]

what video card do you have and what driver are you using.

I have a nvidia card and am using the closed nvidia driver with no issues.

[iMav]

If you haven't already, check out http://ubuntuforums.org.

The community is large enough that you'll likely find others who worked through the same issues.

[lam47]

I have an 8800 Ultra and driver 177.
I just booted again and the loop is gone again.
Why would it be there some of the time and not the rest?

I have had a look through The Ubuntu forums with no luck.
I have found some other reports of the same loop but no way of fixing it.

[D-EJ915]

well I know in 8.10 they use HAL to set up the keyboard and mouse, maybe that has something to do with it?  Have you tried a previous version like 8.04.1 ? (I think it still uses the xorg.conf file for input device configuration in that version)

[lam47]

I have tried the earlier Kernal but not a whole other build no.
Running from live cd is OK as the video drivers are not installed.

[D-EJ915]

so you've come to the conclusion it's the nvidia driver then?  why not try using the 'nv' driver for a bit then or try using a different nvidia driver version

IMO this HAL bull**** makes everything way too hard

[lam47]

Not sure what the nv driver is sorry. I am like a brand new baby with a rubix cube here.
If its the built in support then running with that is fine no problems at all no server loop.
Once I enable the unsupported nvidia driver the loop comes back.
There is a new beta driver out but I couldn't work out how to install it.
I intend to learn the terminal properly but for now I just need it running how it should.
Thanks for all the help and ideas everyone

[bhtooefr]

The nv driver is an open-source nVidia driver without hardware 3D support. Sounds like that is the "built-in" driver.

[lam47]

Yeah that one is fine.
But I use expose A LOT! its the thing I loved the most about OSX

[D-EJ915]

Yeah that one is fine.
But I use expose A LOT! its the thing I loved the most about OSX

I think that requires GLX which I'm not sure nv does.

[lam47]

It does yes which is a shame.
I might try posting in the Ubuntu forum see if anyone has any ideas.
Thanks everyone, keep trying if you can

[andb]

Just came back to the thread... If things work from the live cd, try going to the restricted drivers and disable the nvidea drivers, which ever one is in use. For Nvidea I usually use the Envy package, which does a great job of cleanly installing the drivers.

[lam47]

I have re installed 64bit Ubuntu and so far no loop everything is working well.
I did get this on my xorg today though.
AUDIT: Sun Dec 21 12:14:15 2008: 7098 X: client 4 rejected from local host ( uid=0 gid=0 pid=7118 )
AUDIT: Sun Dec 21 12:14:25 2008: 7098 X: client 4 rejected from local host ( uid=1000 gid=1000 pid=7122 )
AUDIT: Sun Dec 21 12:14:25 2008: 7098 X: client 4 rejected from local host ( uid=1000 gid=1000 pid=7123 )
AUDIT: Sun Dec 21 12:14:25 2008: 7098 X: client 4 rejected from local host ( uid=1000 gid=1000 pid=7124 )

And I'm a simple farm hand it mean no not nothing to I.

[andb]

Its best to stick to 32 bit, imo. Typically program support for 64bit has been slow to catch up. Flash FINALLY came out for 64, I think that there wasn't a JAVA browser plug-in for ages, and Skype definitely wont run on it.

I always recommend to people to use the 32bit i386 version of their distro unless they are setting up a high performance server and know what they are doing. If you have any odd problems, I wouldn't spend to much time fighting it and would fall back to the 32 bit version.

On an unpleasant note though, the current (8.10) and older 32bit version of the ubuntu kernel is missing support for larger amounts of RAM, and if you want go get to more than 3gb, you either need to recompile the kernel with the right switches enabled or use 64 bit IIRC,  the server version of the kernel already has it enabled, but its not ideal for a desktop.

[lam47]

Thanks for the advice mate.
The general opinion over on the Ubuntu forum and overclock.net was to go with 64 as there is more support for it. Thats why I chose it over 32. Using all my ram is not an issue.
Seems there is no hard rule on this. Can it really be so subjective?

[bigpook]

I have been running the 64bit version of ubuntu since at least 8.04, probably 7.10.I have 64 bit 8.10 going now and for what I am doing it works fine.
I do have flash support in firefox, I think that worked by default too.
The one issue I do have is the bitpim does not work, bitpim is used to connect to your cell phone to pull down the address book and pictures. Its not a big deal to me though. Otherwise its all good.

[bhtooefr]

From the Ubuntu forums:

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sudo apt-get install linux-server linux-headers-server linux-restricted-modules-server

The last one being necessary to install the nVidia drivers. Then, the server kernel will be available in GRUB.

There's also this thread, with links on how to build your own kernel.

[andb]

Thanks for the advice mate.
The general opinion over on the Ubuntu forum and overclock.net was to go with 64 as there is more support for it.

Wow, thats the first time I ever heard that claimed. My hardcore Linux support buddies, ones a  RHCE to the tenth degree (thats scientific talk, btw), the other does tons of SUSE support, and on their own machines they avoid 64 bit like the plague. Maybe we're behind the times and resistant to change though, who knows...

When I get advice at ubuntu forums, I carefully look at the profile of whos giving it. I tend to use http://linuxforums.org/, I feel theres a lot better people there, ubnutu forums is heavily noob oriented. And most of my questions aren't distro but package oriented.

[D-EJ915]

I wouldn't suggest someone run the server kernel on their desktop.

[cchan]

Yeah. I remember having run server kernel on the desktop - I needed to mess around quite a bit to get sound working, and I never had webcam support. The compiled-in drivers are much more targeted to server use (esoteric lan cards, scsi cards, etc) than desktop use.

[lal]

Wow, thats the first time I ever heard that claimed. My hardcore Linux support buddies, ones a  RHCE to the tenth degree (thats scientific talk, btw), the other does tons of SUSE support, and on their own machines they avoid 64 bit like the plague.

I second that. Currently 64 bit operating systems (incl. Windows) are only recommended if you really have a need for more than 4 GB of memory. In all other cases it's strongly recommended to go with a 32 bit version because it's much less hassle.

[lam47]

but everyone on the other forum have been saying the 64bit has more support than 32?
I run 64 vista with no issues at all. And it is faster at a lot of things for sure.
Perhaps Linux is different like I say I am new to it.

[bigpook]

I am running 64 bit ubuntu. On the desktop. It seems to work ok for me.

I would go with 64 bit first. If for some reason there is a hardware/software issue that cannot be resolved then punt to the 32 bit version.

[lal]

I really can't imagine what would be "more supported" in the 64 bit version. But we're currently living in a transition period from 32 bit to 64 bit and not all the software is ready for it yet. Most is, but not all. If everything works for you then you've no reason to "downgrade" to 32 bit. But be prepared, you *may* get into trouble sooner or later. Especially when it comes to things like hardware drivers, plug-ins (e.g. flash), video/audio codecs, third party software packages et cetera. And this does not pertain to Linux only.

Regarding performance... CPUs do have some additional instructions and registers when run in 64 bit mode, but last I heard only few mostly computing intensive scientific applications make use of them and get a small boost. But otherwise (standard software like the OS itself, browsers, games, ...) performance is absolutely identical, sometimes a bit better in 64 bit and sometimes better in 32 bit. Depends on specific application.

What's for sure is that 64 bit software consumes more RAM, because integers need 8 bytes instead of 4, as well as other data types. And this leads to the one and only reason (AFAIK) to use a 64 bit OS at this time: more than 4 GB of RAM, because 32 bit OSs have a hard time accessing it. On some machines it works, though.

[lam47]

Well Im not personally going to disagree with you as I really dont know what Im talking about.
However every forum but this one has been recommending 64bit over 32.
And has said that there is an increase in performance in a lot of applications.
Certainly in Vista I get better FPS in games than on 32bit.
Its not an issue at the moment in my Linux as flash is fine and all videos etc play fine.
I have yet to have a single issue relating to the OS being 64, nor in vista.
Again Im not doubting anyone here. I can only speak from my own experience.

[bigpook]

Well Im not personally going to disagree with you as I really dont know what Im talking about.
However every forum but this one has been recommending 64bit over 32.
And has said that there is an increase in performance in a lot of applications.
Certainly in Vista I get better FPS in games than on 32bit.
Its not an issue at the moment in my Linux as flash is fine and all videos etc play fine.
I have yet to have a single issue relating to the OS being 64, nor in vista.
Again Im not doubting anyone here. I can only speak from my own experience.

Well, thats the acid test isn't it?

If you are running 64bit and are happy with it then...just be happy : )

It only gets ugly when there are issues. And even then you can go to 32 bit and be done with it. While I agree that 634 bit seems faster, thats not saying that 32 bit is a dog.

Its not like I am folding proteins or something : P

[lal]

No problem! As I said, if it works then fine!

In my opinion lots of people have been misleaded by successful propaganda to believe that 64 bit is inherently better than 32 bit. And if the user base of 64 bit OSs grows, that's actually good because then the vendors are forced to make sure their products run smooth on 64 bit.

This seems so be a well done, quite recent comparison benchmark (I linked the summary for convenience).

[andb]

However every forum but this one has been recommending 64bit over 32.
And has said that there is an increase in performance in a lot of applications.

Have you tried Linuxforums.org or the Redhat forums? They're the only forums I'll even begin to listen to. Show me one person on UbuntuForums who recommends keeping old versions. Most of them are fanbois who just love the next version. I love old, stable no hassles. My mediacenter still runs on 6.10! Why change something that works?

Performance benefit? PLEASE. Maybe if you are doing Weather modeling. Anything that is slowing you down on a modern computer is either disk access or network speed. Maybe if you are doing video editing or encoding then yes, 64bit may be a whopping 5% faster than 32bit kernel on the same machine. But Firefox or Open Office isn't going to open any faster. If you want that, invest in a couple extra disks and make a RAID array.

32bit linux can actually support >4gb memory, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
However, Ubuntu kernel for reasons unknown to humanity, don't enable this in their distro. RedHat, SUSE and I think even Debian do enable this. Its easy to compile a kernel once you've read through every switch and know what you need, and if you need patches for anything you are using. Wait, I guess it is a PIA...

I think I wrote before, forums need to be taken with a grain of salt. When someone recommends something, make sure you question what this person's qualifications are. Especially if they tell you how cool it is if you type 'sudo rm -rf /'    

Don't try that ^ at home children!

Older, stable versions are (IMO) the better bet since most bugs have already been experienced and solved by someone else.
The moral of the story - find what works for you, then ignore all of us trying to give you advice

[bhtooefr]

Except for the fact that security updates may not be as quickly developed and distributed for older versions.

My server is running on Ubuntu 8.04 Server, though, and I plan to stick with LTS versions on it, simply because they do have guaranteed long term support (that being what LTS stands for.)

[D-EJ915]

PAE Doesn't work on all processors and it's rather ghetto which might be why they disable it.

[bhtooefr]

Um...

PAE is provided by Intel Pentium Pro and above CPUs (including all later Pentium-series processors except the 400 MHz bus versions of the Pentium M), as well as by some compatible processors such as the Athlon and later models from AMD.

The only things that it won't work on don't have support for 4GB of RAM anyway.