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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #100 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:06:26 »
I just want one of the Rev. B controllers, especially to make use of wireless!!!

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #101 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:25:23 »
I so need one of these! I can't wait for Rev B

hasu, you should talk to komar007 about the PCB manufacturing. He had the GH60 Rev B assembled with all components at the fab, and they turned out great. I believe he was also interested in integrating Bluetooth into the GH60 in the future.
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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #102 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:33:42 »
I so need one of these! I can't wait for Rev B

hash, you should talk to komar007 about the PCB manufacturing. He had the GH60 Rev B assembled with all components at the fab, and they turned out great. I believe he was also interested in integrating Bluetooth into the GH60 in the future.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #103 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 07:02:07 »
jdcarpe,
I'll ask komar when my design is finally fixed if demand of the controller is enough. Thanks.
I'd need production service or better equipments like reflow oven and stencil. I'll be tired with soldering SMT components by hand if I have to do tens of PCB.
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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #104 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:58:20 »
I can't wait for the next batch!!

Meanwhile, I've been using keyremap4macbook, but it would be great to have it in hardware too :D

One thing that would be amazing is if I could get either the return key or one of the keys around hjkl to map to the fn key, then remap the arrows to the vi movement keys. I think the only straightforward way would be through firmware ....

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #105 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 23:07:22 »
I will definetly get a HHKB if the bluetooth contoller is done.

put me on the list.

also does it also work for the HHKB JP?

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #106 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 13:32:46 »
Great news!

I'm definitely interested, I actually would like to get 5, put me on the list!

Cheers.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #107 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 13:50:21 »
As a owner of the current version I must say that hasu has done an amazing job with the controller.
The installation was very painless, and everything appears to be working this far.
Though I have not had time to do much programming of the controller.

Not sure if I really need the wireless functionality. But I guess it there were a wireless version I would be interested to play with it.

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Re: Rev.B PCB
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 13:54:50 »
I'll start to design Rev.B PCB before long. Before start the work I'd try to ask some.

1) Rev.A users, do you have any flaw or thought on the board?
If you have requeset, complain, suggestion or anything, post it here(or PM me if it needs). Feedback from real users is very important and helps me a lot.

2) Other suggestion or idea on this?
Are there missing or wanting features?
(But... Don't say about USB hub and DIP switch :) I don't need them!)
Or recommended compornent supplier PCB manufacturer or other production service?

3) Any advices on circuit or PCB work?
I'm not an expert of electronics at all. No doubt I did and will make many mistakes. I need advices.


Why Rev.B?
Rev.A works well with HHKB pro2 and Type-S as a wired USB controller. The reason why I set to Rev.B is to add wireless option with Bluetooth. Rev.B still works as USB controller and also can  connect with wireless if you install BT module and other parts on it. In my plan you can switch between USB and Buletooth, and Li-po battery are charged with USB.

Wired controller part of Rev.A has no apparent flaws so I wont change its design except for some parts are removed or replaced, while its wireless portion has some flaws to be fixed. In Rev.B I'll use new module Roving RN-42 and add FET switching circuit for power control between USB and battery.


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https://github.com/tmk/HHKB_controller/tree/revA
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http://i.imgur.com/NHAavrm.jpg
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Hasu you are a rockstar! Count me in for a rev.B controller especially if it comes with bluetooth!

Please let me know if there's anything I could do to help you with (even if you need funds for the development!)
« Last Edit: Wed, 04 December 2013, 16:45:29 by Matt3o »

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #109 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 14:04:55 »
I didn't see where he asked for interest, so much as advice, so I'm not sure if I'm supposed to throw my name in now, but here it is.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #110 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 22:01:59 »
@Wraul, great. Thanks for your feedback!

@MarioRicalde, 5? too much HHKBs :) and you are already on the list.

@esoomenona, I certainly received PM long ago, you are on 2nd place of my list.

@Matt3o, if you want wireless you must wait for later revision. Wireless option is still very beta phase of development. And thanks for you kind word!

My post might be a bit confusing.
If you want to connect your HHKB with USB Rev.B is good for you. But Bluetooh is not mature enough on Rev.B yet, it will need to be revised several times like Rev.C,D,... to finish this wireless project. So you should wait for long time if you need wireless.

Thank you for your interest, guys!


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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #111 on: Sat, 07 December 2013, 01:37:14 »
My post might be a bit confusing.
If you want to connect your HHKB with USB Rev.B is good for you. But Bluetooh is not mature enough on Rev.B yet, it will need to be revised several times like Rev.C,D,... to finish this wireless project. So you should wait for long time if you need wireless.

I'm interested anyway! :) With or without wireless :)

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #112 on: Sat, 07 December 2013, 02:18:40 »
/i'm assuming we're at the wait for rev b phase now?  Cause I want two of these thangs

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #113 on: Sun, 08 December 2013, 04:31:10 »
I'd like to reserve one too please. I don't really care if it has wireless or not. Thanks!

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #114 on: Sun, 08 December 2013, 06:39:42 »
I want one of these. The PCB and all the components. I'll solder it myself of course =)
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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #115 on: Sun, 08 December 2013, 06:43:29 »
I'm also interested in one of those :)

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #116 on: Sun, 08 December 2013, 09:09:27 »


I'm also interested in one. 

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #117 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 06:56:08 »
Wrote down on my waiting list, thanks all.

Now it sums up 20+ boards, I'll split them into some runs to minimize risk of my silly failure. Maybe I'll order 10(or 5) PCBs each run.
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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #118 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 19:42:33 »
I pmed you about the pcb, not sure if you put me down.

Either way, count me in for 1! :)

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #119 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 20:57:38 »
I pm'd! I hope it's not too late :)
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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #120 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:22:31 »
I'm in for two !

I don't need wireless and I don't need the USB hub so: I don't care if the next batch as wireless or not and I don't care if it has the USB hub or not.
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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #121 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 00:32:03 »
phatdood9, you're already on list, sure.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #122 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 08:52:07 »
btw... All that is needed to install this is a screwdriver?
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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #123 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 09:00:56 »
I'm in. Been wanting a hhkb for a while and this is just the nudge I needed.
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #124 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 09:29:46 »
I so need one of these! I can't wait for Rev B

hasu, you should talk to komar007 about the PCB manufacturing. He had the GH60 Rev B assembled with all components at the fab, and they turned out great. I believe he was also interested in integrating Bluetooth into the GH60 in the future.
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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #125 on: Sun, 15 December 2013, 09:48:34 »
count me in!
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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #126 on: Sun, 12 January 2014, 01:28:50 »
I'm interested in this as well.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #127 on: Sun, 12 January 2014, 03:43:47 »
I'm interested for sure, would love to make it programmable. Has anyone tried plugging it into the camera connector kit on iPad? Apparently it wouldn't work as an iPad keyboard std because it draws too much power for the USB hub, so I was wondering if it worked with this mod.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #128 on: Sun, 12 January 2014, 05:56:25 »
100% in

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #129 on: Sun, 12 January 2014, 08:42:42 »
I would be very much interested in obtaining one for my HHKB. Most awesome work your doing hasu, I hope you can include me on the list.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #130 on: Sun, 12 January 2014, 09:31:46 »
BT means I could use my HHKB with iPad ? If so then yes yes, I'm in for sure.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #131 on: Sun, 12 January 2014, 19:43:45 »
I am in for one as well, am not picky about bluetooth feature. Should it have bluetooth feature I hope one can still use the keyboard via wired as well (also disabling bluetooth would be nice when using wired). I haven't caught up much of the topic let alone have read what are the official specifications on rev. B.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #132 on: Sun, 12 January 2014, 20:40:18 »
Yeah wireless would be great but it's not a showstopper for me. Having more flexibility with the board itself is what I really, really want.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #133 on: Mon, 13 January 2014, 21:07:25 »
Thanks for your interests, guys.

I'm working on Bluetooth(2.1+EDR) controller but it is still very personal project without good power control and pairing feature. You will need to wait for very long if you want wireless function. At least, with next several revisions I won't/can't offer assembled wireless controller.
I don't expect wireless HHKB can work long with bettery and to me Bluetooth is just supplementary feature. My Buletooth controller will have USB connection for main feature.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #134 on: Mon, 13 January 2014, 21:33:40 »
phatdood9, you're already on list, sure.

kennardsmith, TacticalCoder, welcome! wrote down.

Put me down on your list too hasu.  I'd love to be able to reprogram my HHKB!
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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #135 on: Mon, 13 January 2014, 21:36:15 »
BT means I could use my HHKB with iPad ? If so then yes yes, I'm in for sure.

You shouldn't need bt for that.  Use the camera connection thing.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #136 on: Mon, 13 January 2014, 21:55:14 »
BT means I could use my HHKB with iPad ? If so then yes yes, I'm in for sure.

You shouldn't need bt for that.  Use the camera connection thing.

I know but camera conection kit just for the additional keyboard doesnt sound good to me, I mean I never get in the wire-mess just for a tablet and a better keyboard. In fact I'm impressed with the Minila Air and the convinient it brings but the layout and the sw are nothing compared to HHKB so I just want a HHKB "Air"  :p

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #137 on: Thu, 16 January 2014, 16:45:42 »
Would love to get in on this if still possible! My hack to use the HHKB with an iPad is not exactly convenient. I'd be in for one, maybe even two of these for now.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #138 on: Thu, 16 January 2014, 17:17:15 »
Would love to get in on this if still possible! My hack to use the HHKB with an iPad is not exactly convenient. I'd be in for one, maybe even two of these for now.

Now that's just silly :)

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #139 on: Thu, 16 January 2014, 17:30:39 »
Hope I'm still on that waiting list.
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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #140 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 05:49:29 »
Hi Hasu,

Just received a HHKB Pro 2 as a gift recently and after reading nathankot's blog post "Modding the HHKB," wanted to put my name on the list for one of these mod boards in addition to one of the upcoming ones (Rev. B) if I could.

Thanks!

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #141 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 07:07:13 »
BT means I could use my HHKB with iPad ? If so then yes yes, I'm in for sure.

You shouldn't need bt for that.  Use the camera connection thing.

As far as I know it doesn't work because of the extra power draw for the USB hub, might work with this mod but not sure, can anyone confirm?

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #142 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 09:14:19 »
BT means I could use my HHKB with iPad ? If so then yes yes, I'm in for sure.

You shouldn't need bt for that.  Use the camera connection thing.

As far as I know it doesn't work because of the extra power draw for the USB hub, might work with this mod but not sure, can anyone confirm?

See http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29626.msg566856#msg566856 for power requirements. I believe the iPad (with the Camera Connection Kit) is capable of powering certain flash drives so it should be sufficient.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #143 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 18:59:58 »
I might have missed this but any idea what the timeline looks like for this controller?

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #144 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 20:50:16 »
This is current waiting list, let me know via PM if you are listed or not listed wrongly.
I'll PM you from top of the list when controllers get to be available. After that you can decide whether you accept it or not. No risk of you being on the list, in other words.

Design of new revision PCB is currently stuck a bit and I'm working on other small project. And another project will be comming. So this will progress very slow for a while, you need big patience. Sorry for this.

Thanks for your interesting.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #145 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 22:53:36 »
This is current waiting list, let me know via PM if you are listed or not listed wrongly.
I'll PM you from top of the list when controllers get to be available. After that you can decide whether you accept it or not. No risk of you being on the list, in other words.

Design of new revision PCB is currently stuck a bit and I'm working on other small project. And another project will be comming. So this will progress very slow for a while, you need big patience. Sorry for this.

Thanks for your interesting.

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Thanks Hasu!

In the mean time, I'm going to look into trying out my hand at building a prototype board based on the previous blog posts from which this project is derived. Got into Arduino a bit at the beginning of 2013 but didn't really have a use for it after a while so I lost interest. Might just pick it up again for this project.

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #146 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 22:55:10 »
Hi hasu, please add me on the list. Thanks

Offline simkev

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #147 on: Thu, 30 January 2014, 03:57:03 »
This is current waiting list, let me know via PM if you are listed or not listed wrongly.
I'll PM you from top of the list when controllers get to be available. After that you can decide whether you accept it or not. No risk of you being on the list, in other words.

Design of new revision PCB is currently stuck a bit and I'm working on other small project. And another project will be comming. So this will progress very slow for a while, you need big patience. Sorry for this.

Thanks for your interesting.

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Offline steve.v

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #148 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 21:43:10 »
Hello,

I am thinking of making a purchase of a HHKB (haven't decided on on a pro 2 or the type-S). It seems your work is one of the missing pieces that will make this keyboard almost perfect. I am right that you are working to create a hardware component that will enable a HHKB to be fully programmable? If interested, will there need to be any installation steps such as soldering? Before I commit, I would like to know what kinds of installation it will require; I am not too confident yet to do any soldering on a HHKB yet as I am afraid of breaking something due to my lack of soldering skills. Thank you.

Steve

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Re: Alternative Controller for HHKB
« Reply #149 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 01:03:27 »
Yes, wIth this controller it is fully programmable in my terminology. Even if my firmware doesn't fulfill your requirement you can still program it fully youself with GNU tools like compiler, assembler and etc. You can do almost everything with this keyboard if you are a C or AVR assembly programmer.

To install the controller board you need only a screw driver and a bit courage enough to void your warranty :)
You don't need soldering skills.

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