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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #600 on: Thu, 06 July 2017, 22:45:06 »
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #601 on: Thu, 06 July 2017, 23:43:25 »
Cutting prices in addition to the huge exposure massdrop brings in tow with the volume discounts seems a little overkill, but it is what it is.

Five to six years ago getting anything made by GMK was extremely difficult and only a tiny handful of people here on GH had the ability to start and run a group buy for them but they wanted a very distinct number of customers to buy in first before GMK would even warm up their facilities to run the order.

Now with MassDrop GMK gets a very comfortable order number coming through and they know that via MD they get far more interest than by any other means.  So either like or hate MassDrop they actually made buying and owning any type of GMK key-sets far easier.

The trick now is to convince them of certain special keys requirement for certain countries and regions within the EU.

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #602 on: Sun, 09 July 2017, 08:37:07 »
Any chances of this key being added to the Norde kit?


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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #603 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 15:28:26 »
Someone mentioned 55g domes bottom out at 80g so these are 55g copies (75g + 5g from the spring). Makes a lot more sense now.

The domes labeled Realforce look dark like the 55g domes though and have 10 nickels on top, which would be 50g (and the HHKB dome has 8 i.e. 40g). So I think these latest J Cups are indeed just heavier.

So this is what's interesting about the JDomes.

Clearly, the bottom out force is signifcantly higher, I feel that the domes actuation force is close to the Realforce domes. There is a nice big bump in the beginning, which I really like.

I sent final review samples to Gajible, and Quakemz, who may or may not post some final feedback on the domes, but I highly encourage that they do.

I'm really excited, and we're almost there.

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Lastly, we're still trying to mock up the BKE dome, and make sure that it's good to go. I hope we get it done very soon and follow up after this GB is over with.

I'm going to quote a 1 month turnaround time for this GB, as the manufacturer has been extremely timely with their current turnaround times.

Any chances of this key being added to the Norde kit?

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The ^ one was added exceptionally as GMK offered it with no additional charge. Additional keys would suposse a change on the kit's price.

Now the cool stuff:

Base kit's 1500 unit price point has been added: $99.99

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #604 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 15:50:53 »
can we get an update on the numbers, zambu? md seems to lag by a day or two..

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #605 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 15:52:09 »
Base kit's 1500 unit price point has been added: $99.99
Sooner or later we'll need a quote for 2.000 sets.
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #606 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 15:52:14 »
Wow!  :eek: that's a super awesome price! This is my first keycap group buy I'm so happy that I here at the right time to get this kit! Looks suberb.

Someone mentioned 55g domes bottom out at 80g so these are 55g copies (75g + 5g from the spring). Makes a lot more sense now.

The domes labeled Realforce look dark like the 55g domes though and have 10 nickels on top, which would be 50g (and the HHKB dome has 8 i.e. 40g). So I think these latest J Cups are indeed just heavier.

So this is what's interesting about the JDomes.

Clearly, the bottom out force is signifcantly higher, I feel that the domes actuation force is close to the Realforce domes. There is a nice big bump in the beginning, which I really like.

I sent final review samples to Gajible, and Quakemz, who may or may not post some final feedback on the domes, but I highly encourage that they do.

I'm really excited, and we're almost there.

Please fill out the form if you haven't.
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Lastly, we're still trying to mock up the BKE dome, and make sure that it's good to go. I hope we get it done very soon and follow up after this GB is over with.

I'm going to quote a 1 month turnaround time for this GB, as the manufacturer has been extremely timely with their current turnaround times.

Any chances of this key being added to the Norde kit?

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The ^ one was added exceptionally as GMK offered it with no additional charge. Additional keys would suposse a change on the kit's price.

Now the cool stuff:

Base kit's 1500 unit price point has been added: $99.99

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #607 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 16:09:17 »
can we get an update on the numbers, zambu? md seems to lag by a day or two..

Numbers were updated both on Sunday and today…

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #608 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 16:24:51 »
cross my fingers for another spacebar kit price break!

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #609 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 16:27:20 »
Base kit's 1500 unit price point has been added: $99.99
Sooner or later we'll need a quote for 2.000 sets.

Maybe if a colourway runs for its second/third time as GMK (like Carbon). GMK Carbon did 1956 (what was Plum?) and I doubt that'd be possible without the SA set that happened before.

Getting close though.

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #610 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:21:40 »
Do people really prefer scooped over barred f/j???

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« Reply #611 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:29:54 »
Do people really prefer scooped over barred f/j???

Yes.  :p

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« Reply #612 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:32:07 »
Do people really prefer scooped over barred f/j???

I was surprised as well, but it seems to be the designer's choice unfortunately :/

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« Reply #613 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:41:46 »
Do people really prefer scooped over barred f/j???

I do

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #614 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 18:37:09 »
Scooped is by far superior, not even a question.

But I do like the ePBT sets that have scooped + bar
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #615 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 19:35:56 »
I never used scooped until GMK, but I've gotten used to it. I thought I would have hated it, but it's kind of nice. Your fingers rest in a little nook, it's pretty subtle. Instead of being pushed up by a little piece of plastic you want to pick off.

I'm fine either way, just don't change the location like AEK caps did...

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #616 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 03:34:17 »
Do people really prefer scooped over barred f/j???

I don't, but some do.  I know it's up to the designer but I fully support every set offering both scoops and bars

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #617 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 04:05:03 »
I never used scooped until GMK, but I've gotten used to it. I thought I would have hated it, but it's kind of nice.
I had the very same experience, now I like dished keys much better than barred ones.
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #618 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 04:06:18 »
Another german here that could answer my question? If i would buy this, how much would i have to pay at german customs? I know:
22-150 € => Only 19% "Einfuhrumsatzsteuer"
> 150 € => Plus "Zoll" .. What percentage is that for keycaps?
 

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #619 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 04:20:01 »
how much would i have to pay at german customs?

Not German, but for the EU you calculate: price you paid of item itself + duty (zoll?) according to TARIC. Add together item price with duty applied + shipping cost, then add sales tax (MwSt, VAT etc.)  on top, and yes the sales tax is compound on top of duty.

You may expect a customs processing fee, but for Germans it is usually zero or a nominal fee, since for the time being international law is followed and courier agents are not able to charge extra fees to customers just because they feel like grabbing an extra profit from your item.

Fortunately the duty on computer parts and accessories is zero. For Germans 19% sales tax, so it's easy and you just need total price paid at Massdrop checkout × 1.19, plus maybe a few € processing fee.
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #620 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 06:19:35 »
Another german here that could answer my question? If i would buy this, how much would i have to pay at german customs? I know:
22-150 € => Only 19% "Einfuhrumsatzsteuer"
> 150 € => Plus "Zoll" .. What percentage is that for keycaps?

There are no extra Zoll fees for keycaps or other keyboard components for that matter. Imported quite a lot keyboard related stuff already and always only had to pay the Einfuhrumsatzersatzsteuer (19%).

And Einfuhrumsatzersatzsteuer begins at 25€, while the Zoll is up from 125€. Both are always including your shipping costs
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #621 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 06:58:59 »
Thank you both.
Now i must think about if i should throw all my money that's left after amazon prime day at this  ;D
 

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #622 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 15:25:01 »
... Einfuhrumsatzersatzsteuer ...

What a mouthful!
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #623 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 18:24:21 »
Anyone know how close we are to the $99 mark?


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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #624 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 18:31:08 »
Anyone know how close we are to the $99 mark?


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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #625 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 18:52:58 »
By the way, it is a $99 base kit + GMK's plastic tray.  :D

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« Reply #626 on: Thu, 13 July 2017, 01:23:21 »
Anyone know how close we are to the $99 mark?
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #627 on: Thu, 13 July 2017, 03:05:04 »
Guess I'll take the plunge (ha) and get it despite the lack of muh bars

Will there be an extra scooped J in the vim set in the novelties kit?
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« Reply #628 on: Thu, 13 July 2017, 03:26:07 »

Will there be an extra scooped J in the vim set in the novelties kit?

That is a really good question

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« Reply #629 on: Thu, 13 July 2017, 06:15:28 »
Guess I'll take the plunge (ha) and get it despite the lack of muh bars

Will there be an extra scooped J in the vim set in the novelties kit?

The vim J in the render on Massdrop appears to be scooped

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #630 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 18:52:00 »
And we're past 1500 base-kits for that sweet $99 deal.

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #631 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 21:42:50 »
1500+ base kits! Congrats! Is this the highest selling gmk kit ever now? Wish the spacebar kit has another drop point but no biggie.
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #632 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 22:07:09 »
1500+ base kits! Congrats! Is this the highest selling gmk kit ever now? Wish the spacebar kit has another drop point but no biggie.

GMK-MD venture did not do well with extremely large production batches, like the infamous TA set, just hoping that they have learnt their lessons and this order runs smoothly and defect free. It was said that the TA issues were due to a new plastic compound color used, who knows, this set includes custom colors as well.

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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #633 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 22:31:26 »
We're there problems with plum? Huge order and custom colors.
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« Reply #634 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 22:34:50 »
GMK-MD venture did not do well with extremely large production batches

GMK Carbon was IMO fine.

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« Reply #635 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 23:02:27 »
IIRC the biggest problem with GMK TA was that they were shipped in insufficient packaging -- just the old GMK trays in a box. This led to keys coming loose and being scratched. The issues with improper colour mixing were comparatively uncommon, and that would be the real issue about a custom colour
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #636 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 23:27:23 »
IIRC the biggest problem with GMK TA was that they were shipped in insufficient packaging -- just the old GMK trays in a box. This led to keys coming loose and being scratched. The issues with improper colour mixing were comparatively uncommon, and that would be the real issue about a custom colour

TA was the first GMK trays. Before that, they were shipped in bags. Was also the first set with pantone colors.
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #637 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 03:09:39 »
IIRC the biggest problem with GMK TA was that they were shipped in insufficient packaging -- just the old GMK trays in a box. This led to keys coming loose and being scratched. The issues with improper colour mixing were comparatively uncommon, and that would be the real issue about a custom colour

TA was the first GMK trays. Before that, they were shipped in bags. Was also the first set with pantone colors.

I was under the impression the trays had been redesigned since TA, have they not?
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Re: [GB] Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set
« Reply #638 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 13:27:46 »
IIRC the biggest problem with GMK TA was that they were shipped in insufficient packaging -- just the old GMK trays in a box. This led to keys coming loose and being scratched. The issues with improper colour mixing were comparatively uncommon, and that would be the real issue about a custom colour

TA was the first GMK trays. Before that, they were shipped in bags. Was also the first set with pantone colors.

I was under the impression the trays had been redesigned since TA, have they not?

Yup they were redesigned quickly after TA. IMO it was pretty impressive how quickly they responded to the criticism.

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« Reply #639 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 14:38:59 »
The base kit price has come down enough that I added a novelty kit to my order.  I want those 4 yellow arrow keys!!

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« Reply #640 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 14:49:50 »
The base kit price has come down enough that I added a novelty kit to my order.  I want those 4 yellow arrow keys!!

I was on the fence about novelties too.. but yellow arrows are nice, and I like to use novelties for left control since I use hhkb layout and make caps into control. 
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« Reply #641 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 15:09:32 »
The base kit price has come down enough that I added a novelty kit to my order.  I want those 4 yellow arrow keys!!

Good to see I'm not the only one :)

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« Reply #642 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 17:31:44 »
we need more people do add the novelty kit to their order so we kit another price break. 

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« Reply #643 on: Fri, 21 July 2017, 07:07:32 »
Will the Norde set will run even if it doesn't reach 100?

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« Reply #644 on: Fri, 21 July 2017, 07:11:27 »
Very likely, but you can't assume it will, however Yuri was made at 40 units (maybe a few more sold in the extension period for K-Type buyers.) Thanks to GMK and MD for doing it, it was their decision.
 
There have been no updates since Tuesday, so with a few more days to run, the spike at the end, plus Asian proxies to add, Norde may be a lot closer to 100 than any other GMK set so far.
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« Reply #645 on: Fri, 21 July 2017, 07:14:11 »
Cool, thanks for the insight.

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« Reply #646 on: Fri, 21 July 2017, 07:41:05 »
Is this the best-selling norde/Int. kit ever produced? Anyone know the carbon numbers?

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« Reply #647 on: Fri, 21 July 2017, 07:49:37 »
I think so in GMK. Carbon wasn't published? outside of GMK:

XDA Canvas did OK, but MT3 /dev/tty did very well (no surprise since it had the best pricing ever for separate UK and NordeES kits)
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« Reply #648 on: Fri, 21 July 2017, 08:32:31 »
Hey they added another space drop. $1 off is $1!
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« Reply #649 on: Fri, 21 July 2017, 16:07:46 »
Hey they added another space drop. $1 off is $1!

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