Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:10:08
CONSTELLATION by AEBOARDS
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The CONSTELLATION started as a conceptual design of a single keyboard case that could offer a granular and personalized assembly experience through multiple mounting methods and unique construction options.
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The mounting method (described as how the plate and printed circuit board (PCB) construction is affixed to the case) has always been a focus of discussion, research, and innovation within mechanical keyboard enthusiasts and designer circles.
The CONSTELLATION is designed to offer the freedom to experiment and experience three of the most popular mounting techniques in one board, allowing you to discern what feels and sounds you enjoy most without having too many variables affecting your judgement.
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The CONSTELLATION started as a conceptual design of a single keyboard case that could offer a granular and personalized assembly experience through multiple mounting methods and unique construction options.
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5b6be8b4f8370a0921fef083/1579686809952-BU65R8EFC80G1U8EN1U4/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kLkXF2pIyv_F2eUT9F60jBl7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0iyqMbMesKd95J-X4EagrgU9L3Sa3U8cogeb0tjXbfawd0urKshkc5MgdBeJmALQKw/CONSTELLATION+SIDE?format=1500w) (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5b6be8b4f8370a0921fef083/1579686726867-AUV13565MAZAMGLF4CSI/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kLkXF2pIyv_F2eUT9F60jBl7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0iyqMbMesKd95J-X4EagrgU9L3Sa3U8cogeb0tjXbfawd0urKshkc5MgdBeJmALQKw/CONSTELLATION+FRONT?format=1500w)
The mounting method (described as how the plate and printed circuit board (PCB) construction is affixed to the case) has always been a focus of discussion, research, and innovation within mechanical keyboard enthusiasts and designer circles.
The CONSTELLATION is designed to offer the freedom to experiment and experience three of the most popular mounting techniques in one board, allowing you to discern what feels and sounds you enjoy most without having too many variables affecting your judgement.
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5b6be8b4f8370a0921fef083/1579781732001-KDKBLCXH66WOW8QP466P/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kLkXF2pIyv_F2eUT9F60jBl7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0iyqMbMesKd95J-X4EagrgU9L3Sa3U8cogeb0tjXbfawd0urKshkc5MgdBeJmALQKw/CONSTELLATION?format=1500w) (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5b6be8b4f8370a0921fef083/1579687389433-BLW46MA6327WK0PCEFMA/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kHH9S2ID7_bpupQnTdrPcoF7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0nQwvinDXPV4EYh2MRzm-RRB5rUELEv7EY2n0AZOrEupxpSyqbqKSgmzcCPWV5WMiQ/PLATE?format=1500w)
MOUNTING STYLES:
O-Ring Gasket Mount
The ‘O-ring gasket mount’ was originally first seen in some of the very early custom keyboard designs that spawned from the Korean community. As these kits were only made in very small numbers during production, they have become something of a rarity that only very few people have had a chance to experience. Only recently has the O-ring seen a resurgence in popularity, promising unique feel and acoustic attributes. It is believed that the gasket offers unique dampening beneath the plate while also dispersing force through to contact points in the bottom of the case. The O-ring gasket sits between the plate and PCB, and utilises specific PCB cutouts and bottom case standoffs to keep the plate in place. You can install and remove the O-ring by stretching it around the plate and specifically the USB-C port. We recommend that you be gentle while installing this gasket.
Gasketed Sandwich Mount
The ‘sandwich mount’ traditionally involves clamping the plate between the two halves of the case - this typically results in a very sturdy construction that reciprocates with a very clean and distinct sensation on switch bottom out. Although popular, one of the common criticisms is that this bottom out becomes too harsh; the lack of any relief or cushioning results in fatigue from longer periods of typing. By adding a series of gaskets where the plate is clamped, an element of cushioned dampening is added to this mounting style. The result is a fine balance between a typing sensation that feels sturdy and crisp that doesn’t cause as much fatigue as the former over periods of time. You can try half isolation (where one side, usually bottom, of the plate having this gasket to dampen out the bottom out), or full isolation (both sides of the plate having gaskets). Please be aware of material thicknesses and be vigilant when installing gaskets in both half isolation and full isolation, keeping in mind compression and material density as you decide to install these gaskets. Please ensure you do not have too much gasket thickness and are able to screw the top and bottom pieces of the case together.
Top Plate Mount
Amidst all of the different innovations and designs, top mount has remained one of the tried and trusted mounting designs that many enthusiasts favour due to its consistent feeling and balance between relief and rigidity. The mounting points are placed along the top and bottom perimeter of the plate and screw into the top piece of the case. This allows the plate to flex along its lateral axis giving a nice semi-cushioned bottom out whilst still retaining structural integrity. Top mount was included to act as a control or baseline that builders can use to compare with the O-ring and sandwich mount methods to determine which they enjoy the most.
SPECIFICATIONS
Case Specifications
• Grade 6063 anodised aluminium case
• Clear coated brass weight
• 65% layout with no blockers (fixed layout (https://bit.ly/2upTZ8G))*
• 7 degrees typing incline
• Standardised AEBoards rubber feet strips
• Standardised AEBoards gaskets
• Interchangeable accent pieces
PCB Specifications
• Horizontal relief cuts
• Powered by QMK
• VIA Configurator support
• Center USB-C
• Black solder mask
Case Colours
Signature Colours
• Black
• Aegis Navy
• Space Grey
Limited Edition Colours
• Influencer Red
• Limited Edition Vickrey Colour
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Availability
CONSTELLATION will be available as an in-stock keyboard kit, with additional add-ons available at time of purchase. We will have several waves of availability: Friends and Family, Early Access and then Public Sale. We aim to have at least 100 units for Public Sale.
It will be vendored through our community storefront - The Keyboard Treehouse.
Our release date is to be confirmed, slated for Q1 2020.
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Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:10:58
https://www.aeboards.com/s/CONSTELLATION_RENDER_FILES.rar (https://www.aeboards.com/s/CONSTELLATION_RENDER_FILES.rar)
Post by: would? on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:13:41
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:15:45
you're insane, this board is insane. You and Solid are too good at keyboard stuff
don't forget xelus, who does our pcbs!
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Post by: would? on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:20:15
you're insane, this board is insane. You and Solid are too good at keyboard stuff
don't forget xelus, who does our pcbs!
of course Xelus too <3
Post by: MuffinCat on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:21:25
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:21:58
ne 6u bottom row avail?
Right now, we have only made it with our fixed layout. I have intentions to offer more layouts at some point. Note that the plate right now in the prototype doesn't have stepped caps, but we will support it.
If you've got a layout in mind, link it, we'll see what we can do in the future.
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Post by: Sissy on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:27:40
Really interesting choices with the mounting options. Also like the brass? Spacer separator thing.
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:33:51
Been awhile since I seen a 65 without any blockers.
Really interesting choices with the mounting options. Also like the brass? Spacer separator thing.
Yeah, the accents?
We'll offer different colours accents so you can match up some of your keysets. For example with my prototype in rose gold: https://imgur.com/a/cOlUTqk
If you've got suggestions for accent colours, then free feel to post. I'm going to get some more colours made for prototypes, so ideally ones that match popular keysets with our signature colours - Black, Aegis Navy and Space Gray
Post by: nug on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:37:29
ne 6u bottom row avail?
Right now, we have only made it with our fixed layout. I have intentions to offer more layouts at some point. Note that the plate right now in the prototype doesn't have stepped caps, but we will support it.
If you've got a layout in mind, link it, we'll see what we can do in the future.
Please support this bottom row in the future (https://i.imgur.com/wmGZx5S.png)
Post by: eniigma on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:37:32
seems like a compilation of all the innovations in this community, which is awesome.
Post by: Agilr on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:39:47
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:42:49
looks really great! good job guys!
seems like a compilation of all the innovations in this community, which is awesome.
We've been working on it during the EXT65 as well. With EXT65 we were trying different gasket materials as well as positive/negative angle style boards.
For this one, we wanted to give a "baseline" feel with top mount, then allow you to add the gaskets to try out what you want to discover, allowing you to limit other variances so you can get a feel for the differences. The prototypes have been pleasant to build and type on, and I hope that our buyers will also enjoy messing around with it.
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Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 23 January 2020, 07:11:20
No ISO ?
ISO - pls!
Sadly no, right now we are running with one fixed layout. Down the track we may support more. It's more of a case of the plate having too much cutouts for ANSI users (our core market). We would have to make sure that there is enough ISO demand for it, which I'm sure there is, but we're taking one step at a time to minimise risk, since I'm going to front my money to buy the units to get them instock (better experience for the buyer imo, and the future of keyboard buys)
Does the brass form that full edge? or is it just an insert?
It's an insert (it's called an accent). Example: https://imgur.com/a/cOlUTqk
We want to offer a range of colours so you can mix and match to your keysets. It's not connected to your plate.
Post by: victorpre on Thu, 23 January 2020, 07:12:15
what's the price range?+1
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Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 23 January 2020, 07:14:44
what's the price range?
I'm aiming for 450-550. Trying to get it cheaper as possible, but for a reference, our previous model the EXT65 was 500.
We've had to buy a bunch of extras to make this work. I've gotten a custom rubber feet which will be standardised across our lineup moving forward (paid for moulds and materials for this). It's the same with the gaskets, we've standardising the sizes moving forward (they are slightly different to the EXT65 gaskets). We'll also be including O-rings.
I'm working on packaging now, so final costs will vary based on what decisions we make for this, as well as doing a bit of IC thread reading to check demand. I'm paying for the units and selling it as an instock product, so I want to minimise the risk on my end.
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 23 January 2020, 07:20:12
Does the brass form that full edge? or is it just an insert?
It's an insert (it's called an accent). Example: https://imgur.com/a/cOlUTqk
We want to offer a range of colours so you can mix and match to your keysets. It's not connected to your plate.
Ah, OK, so it's an accent, wasn't sure if it was meant to also weight the board.
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Post by: SolidCactus on Thu, 23 January 2020, 11:16:08
Absolutely stunning. Great work and I love the variety of mounting options.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Thu, 23 January 2020, 11:18:51
So far, consensus tend to indicate that both "O-Ring Gasket Mount" and "Gasketed Sandwich Mount" allow for a softer and more stable typing feel, to the point that they sometimes all fall under the "gasket" bracket.
Since you offer both choices here, I assume you believe these 2 methods lead to significant-enough results, typing feel and/or sound? Can you elaborate a bit here?
Post by: lunr on Thu, 23 January 2020, 11:20:57
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 23 January 2020, 11:24:32
Beautiful board with interesting features. Love it. I'm sure I won't get one fast enough yet again.
Post by: PikaJoyce on Thu, 23 January 2020, 11:40:27
In stock 100 public units... so we have around what, 8-11 seconds to purchase one? :pBuahaha, I feel the very same. I'm loving this board, just unsure if it's actually possible to get in on it :(
Beautiful board with interesting features. Love it. I'm sure I won't get one fast enough yet again.
Post by: eyedrop on Thu, 23 January 2020, 11:50:45
Love the innovation. I am enjoying my EXT65 at the moment while waiting for this.
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Post by: Robosculpts on Thu, 23 January 2020, 14:57:27
Finally a 65% layout that isn't messed up by blockers. Well done. Looking forward to this one :)
The only reason why I dig this 65%.
Post by: mudcakehoney on Thu, 23 January 2020, 15:12:51
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 23 January 2020, 15:13:26
In stock 100 public units... so we have around what, 8-11 seconds to purchase one? :p
Beautiful board with interesting features. Love it. I'm sure I won't get one fast enough yet again.
We're only a small team so even though I'll have 100 units, I'll sell them in manageable waves, similiar to the EXT65 where I had a wave of boards open for US timezone, then one for EU timezone - but they are not region locked. I do think it's easier and 'fairer' this way, as you get a few opportunities to get it. And if there's demand, we could potentially have another run.
Are any of the brass inserts going to be coated or will they all be raw?
These are clear coated, and will not patina. Same finish as the brass plates in the AEGIS and EXT65.
Just to clarify...this won’t be stocked regularly right after that 100 unit for another round or something like a tofu? It’s just those units will be already made and ship shortly?
It really depends on demand. Since I buy the stock first before taking payments, it means my money is tied up in a product with uncertainty to sell. If there's demand then it will make sense to get more stock.
I remembered filling out the friends and family form before. How would we know if we made it on that list?
Love the innovation. I am enjoying my EXT65 at the moment while waiting for this.
Yeap, I haven't hit out our friends and family who have supported us with the AEGIS/EXT65 yet - we are still stress testing the prototype making sure we are confident with the board. Thinks are feeling/sounding good, so I hope to get the ball rolling after CNY.
As a Mac user, I just want to say thank you for the 1.25 x 3 bottom row. Phew.
So far, consensus tend to indicate that both "O-Ring Gasket Mount" and "Gasketed Sandwich Mount" allow for a softer and more stable typing feel, to the point that they sometimes all fall under the "gasket" bracket.
Since you offer both choices here, I assume you believe these 2 methods lead to significant-enough results, typing feel and/or sound? Can you elaborate a bit here?
That's entirely preference. The aim for this board was to provide a few options so you could test yourself and have little variances as possible using the same switches, pcb and plate. I've tested both half isolation and oring, and currently running oring with bottom row half isolation and enjoy that.
Really good idea on this, and probably some clever internals to make it work. I'll have to see about price and front height before joining.
Just measured from the table, front height from table is around 21mm.
Wrote this from my CONSTELLATION
(https://i.imgur.com/r7IZlyH.jpg)
I'll chuck up some internal pictures of my rose gold prototype on my instagram today: https://www.instagram.com/aeryxz/
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Post by: noahf on Thu, 23 January 2020, 16:14:09
what purpose does the brass mid piece serve? is it a weight like 1/65 or a plate like kyuu? just curios how it is integrated.
Post by: DukeEsquire on Thu, 23 January 2020, 16:17:04
hey aeryxz,
what purpose does the brass mid piece serve? is it a weight like 1/65 or a plate like kyuu? just curios how it is integrated.
He answered it earlier: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104338.msg2857049#msg2857049
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Post by: noahf on Thu, 23 January 2020, 16:24:46
hey aeryxz,
what purpose does the brass mid piece serve? is it a weight like 1/65 or a plate like kyuu? just curios how it is integrated.
He answered it earlier: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104338.msg2857049#msg2857049
thanks duke! must have missed it
Post by: Kawamashi on Thu, 23 January 2020, 16:26:43
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Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 23 January 2020, 17:16:11
Ne split space
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None avail.
Definitely loving the possible combos and options. A hotswap pcb would turn it truly into jack of all trades board. Do you know if the board will be mill-max compatible?
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Great question! I've actually using a type of holtites/millmax in my prototype and I do not recommend it. Due to the flex and gasket styles, you may find that some variations might cause your board to short as the holtites/millmax add extra height the bottom of the pcb. I am still using it, but I have taped the bottom of my PCB to stop the shorting. To iterate once again, I DO NOT recommend using holtites, but it is possible.
Hey Aeryxz, sorry if my question is a bit bold. Can the happy backers of the Ægis or Ext65 hope to be part of the early access ? ;D
Yes, PM me on discord.
Post by: superdoedoe on Thu, 23 January 2020, 17:16:22
Definitely loving the possible combos and options. A hotswap pcb would turn it truly into jack of all trades board. Do you know if the board will be mill-max compatible?
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Hotswap probs won't be an option, but you could always add them to the pcb yourself i'd assume
Post by: jinrawke on Thu, 23 January 2020, 17:19:39
Post by: d00deitsnik on Thu, 23 January 2020, 17:30:29
Post by: zhang2118 on Thu, 23 January 2020, 17:31:24
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 23 January 2020, 17:33:18
Quote from: aeryxz link=topic=104338.msg2857305#msg2857305
Great question! I've actually using a type of holtites/millmax in my prototype and I do not recommend it. Due to the flex and gasket styles, you may find that some variations might cause your board to short as the holtites/millmax add extra height the bottom of the pcb. I am still using it, but I have taped the bottom of my PCB to stop the shorting. To iterate once again, I DO NOT recommend using holtites, but it is possible.
Hmm. Yeah. I could def see that. I wonder if you could get around this with the newer modern integrated hotswaps, which have a plastic housing on the bottom. Clearly that'd mean offering two different PCBs or only the hotswap as an option, which I'm sure some wouldn't appreciate. Not saying you should do any of this, just that I'd love to see someone solve the flex hotswap dilemma.
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Post by: dRpkebs on Thu, 23 January 2020, 17:41:20
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 23 January 2020, 17:42:56
Quote from: aeryxz link=topic=104338.msg2857305#msg2857305
Great question! I've actually using a type of holtites/millmax in my prototype and I do not recommend it. Due to the flex and gasket styles, you may find that some variations might cause your board to short as the holtites/millmax add extra height the bottom of the pcb. I am still using it, but I have taped the bottom of my PCB to stop the shorting. To iterate once again, I DO NOT recommend using holtites, but it is possible.
Hmm. Yeah. I could def see that. I wonder if you could get around this with the newer modern integrated hotswaps, which have a plastic housing on the bottom. Clearly that'd mean offering two different PCBs or only the hotswap as an option, which I'm sure some wouldn't appreciate. Not saying you should do any of this, just that I'd love to see someone solve the flex hotswap dilemma.
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If there's a big market for it, since it's mostly fixed layout, it is possible to make a hotswap board. Right now, since there's already many options like accent pieces, plate types, gaskets etc - having too many options might cause decision paralysis and makes logistics a bit harder for us. If the CONSTELLATION proves to be successful and popular, we will support it with addition bits and pieces in the future. I want to create a sustainable ecosystem for this board so that you can buy parts from us and do some customisation and never feel like you can't get new gaskets or pieces for the board once it's done.
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 23 January 2020, 18:46:03
Man. That is the dream! I really support this concept. Revolutionary imo. Most boards are one and done, you grow by buying new boards and selling/shelving old ones. Would be cool to see any ecosystem grow around this one (assuming additional hardware doesn't follow Apple dongle pricing, lol). Sure you can desolder and change caps or switches, but hardware changing the whole feel of the board, count me in! Am hoping that I luck out and get in on this, great work!Quote from: aeryxz link=topic=104338.msg2857305#msg2857305
Great question! I've actually using a type of holtites/millmax in my prototype and I do not recommend it. Due to the flex and gasket styles, you may find that some variations might cause your board to short as the holtites/millmax add extra height the bottom of the pcb. I am still using it, but I have taped the bottom of my PCB to stop the shorting. To iterate once again, I DO NOT recommend using holtites, but it is possible.
Hmm. Yeah. I could def see that. I wonder if you could get around this with the newer modern integrated hotswaps, which have a plastic housing on the bottom. Clearly that'd mean offering two different PCBs or only the hotswap as an option, which I'm sure some wouldn't appreciate. Not saying you should do any of this, just that I'd love to see someone solve the flex hotswap dilemma.
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If there's a big market for it, since it's mostly fixed layout, it is possible to make a hotswap board. Right now, since there's already many options like accent pieces, plate types, gaskets etc - having too many options might cause decision paralysis and makes logistics a bit harder for us. If the CONSTELLATION proves to be successful and popular, we will support it with addition bits and pieces in the future. I want to create a sustainable ecosystem for this board so that you can buy parts from us and do some customisation and never feel like you can't get new gaskets or pieces for the board once it's done.
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Post by: modeseven on Thu, 23 January 2020, 19:07:01
Post by: Abec13 on Thu, 23 January 2020, 19:19:02
Post by: segami on Fri, 24 January 2020, 08:00:23
Post by: willyG on Fri, 24 January 2020, 10:58:51
EDIT: NVM I see that only applies to certain items... Sickkkk
Post by: DasGnome on Fri, 24 January 2020, 11:06:35
Like, if you use an O-ring, won't the top mount and gasket tabs be free to rub against the case?
Post by: caronte0 on Fri, 24 January 2020, 12:09:23
The limited runs it's the only thing that i hate about the community.
Beautiful board, looks super nice :)
Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 24 January 2020, 12:16:28
this is going to be like the gskt 00. Complete success. I really want one (REALLY I WANT ONE), but it's so limited i am not going to get one probably, and after the sale people will flip them for 3 times the price.
The limited runs it's the only thing that i hate about the community.
Beautiful board, looks super nice :)
Nah. the Gskt 00 is a budget keyboard. This won't be as crazy since the price point--deservedly--is going to be much higher.
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 January 2020, 12:35:10
this is going to be like the gskt 00. Complete success. I really want one (REALLY I WANT ONE), but it's so limited i am not going to get one probably, and after the sale people will flip them for 3 times the price.
The limited runs it's the only thing that i hate about the community.
Beautiful board, looks super nice :)
Nah. the Gskt 00 is a budget keyboard. This won't be as crazy since the price point--deservedly--is going to be much higher.
I mean to be fair $450-$550 isn't that much higher than the gskt-00 (which came out to about $350 with bells and whistles)
Post by: Yakbats on Fri, 24 January 2020, 13:30:01
Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 24 January 2020, 14:02:33
this is going to be like the gskt 00. Complete success. I really want one (REALLY I WANT ONE), but it's so limited i am not going to get one probably, and after the sale people will flip them for 3 times the price.
The limited runs it's the only thing that i hate about the community.
Beautiful board, looks super nice :)
Nah. the Gskt 00 is a budget keyboard. This won't be as crazy since the price point--deservedly--is going to be much higher.
I mean to be fair $450-$550 isn't that much higher than the gskt-00 (which came out to about $350 with bells and whistles)
I mean, it's $150 more than the GSKT even after maxing out the GSKT.
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 January 2020, 14:07:05
Eh, you'd be shocked how fast community is growing, with people willing to flash that cash. Tons lining up for the Sat75 extra stock sale, and that'll likely be $500 and go in minutes.this is going to be like the gskt 00. Complete success. I really want one (REALLY I WANT ONE), but it's so limited i am not going to get one probably, and after the sale people will flip them for 3 times the price.
The limited runs it's the only thing that i hate about the community.
Beautiful board, looks super nice :)
Nah. the Gskt 00 is a budget keyboard. This won't be as crazy since the price point--deservedly--is going to be much higher.
I mean to be fair $450-$550 isn't that much higher than the gskt-00 (which came out to about $350 with bells and whistles)
I mean, it's $150 more than the GSKT even after maxing out the GSKT.
Personally I love the idea of an ecosystem project board. One that's supported into the future. And am willing to pay that difference. I'm sure others see that too.
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Post by: ctxgoldsamy on Fri, 24 January 2020, 14:44:53
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Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 24 January 2020, 16:49:38
Eh, you'd be shocked how fast community is growing, with people willing to flash that cash. Tons lining up for the Sat75 extra stock sale, and that'll likely be $500 and go in minutes.this is going to be like the gskt 00. Complete success. I really want one (REALLY I WANT ONE), but it's so limited i am not going to get one probably, and after the sale people will flip them for 3 times the price.
The limited runs it's the only thing that i hate about the community.
Beautiful board, looks super nice :)
Nah. the Gskt 00 is a budget keyboard. This won't be as crazy since the price point--deservedly--is going to be much higher.
I mean to be fair $450-$550 isn't that much higher than the gskt-00 (which came out to about $350 with bells and whistles)
I mean, it's $150 more than the GSKT even after maxing out the GSKT.
Personally I love the idea of an ecosystem project board. One that's supported into the future. And am willing to pay that difference. I'm sure others see that too.
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I have no doubt that this will sell well. Just saying that it won't be like GSTK.
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 January 2020, 18:40:10
Haha. That's true.Eh, you'd be shocked how fast community is growing, with people willing to flash that cash. Tons lining up for the Sat75 extra stock sale, and that'll likely be $500 and go in minutes.this is going to be like the gskt 00. Complete success. I really want one (REALLY I WANT ONE), but it's so limited i am not going to get one probably, and after the sale people will flip them for 3 times the price.
The limited runs it's the only thing that i hate about the community.
Beautiful board, looks super nice :)
Nah. the Gskt 00 is a budget keyboard. This won't be as crazy since the price point--deservedly--is going to be much higher.
I mean to be fair $450-$550 isn't that much higher than the gskt-00 (which came out to about $350 with bells and whistles)
I mean, it's $150 more than the GSKT even after maxing out the GSKT.
Personally I love the idea of an ecosystem project board. One that's supported into the future. And am willing to pay that difference. I'm sure others see that too.
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I have no doubt that this will sell well. Just saying that it won't be like GSTK.
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Post by: Jaxxstatic on Fri, 24 January 2020, 20:09:15
Only thing that I think should be worked out is bottom row.
One question: the spacing between keys is normal spacing? Must just be my eyes, but the pics make it seems slightly different.
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 January 2020, 20:17:00
With all those mounting methods, this a no brainer. Must-buy.Haha. I was thinking the same thing. But I think it's just the angle and the super dark keycaps. I'd love to see some rendors or a prototype in some lighter caps.
Only thing that I think should be worked out is bottom row.
One question: the spacing between keys is normal spacing? Must just be my eyes, but the pics make it seems slightly different.
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Post by: RedCamel on Fri, 24 January 2020, 20:48:58
Post by: mgsickler on Fri, 24 January 2020, 21:02:33
Post by: kolyz on Fri, 24 January 2020, 21:43:46
Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 24 January 2020, 22:21:54
With all those mounting methods, this a no brainer. Must-buy.Haha. I was thinking the same thing. But I think it's just the angle and the super dark keycaps. I'd love to see some rendors or a prototype in some lighter caps.
Only thing that I think should be worked out is bottom row.
One question: the spacing between keys is normal spacing? Must just be my eyes, but the pics make it seems slightly different.
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Normal spacing. The "artsy"-ness of the photos might be giving you that illusion. We try to never show renders because I believe that it can be misleading on what the final product will be like, whereas prototypes tend to be much closer - but this limits the options of "showing off" the board. I do have some more pictures on my personal instagram, and I should post more actually (thanks for reminding) - username is aeryxz. My prototype is rose gold and I have jamon on it, previously I had SA olivia.
This looks incredible, would love to see cyan as an accent option, would look so good with the upcoming Atlantis keyset.
Thanks for the suggestion, teal/cyan is something I'd also like to provide.
this is going to be like the gskt 00. Complete success. I really want one (REALLY I WANT ONE), but it's so limited i am not going to get one probably, and after the sale people will flip them for 3 times the price.
The limited runs it's the only thing that i hate about the community.
Beautiful board, looks super nice :)
Looking at our previous boards, not many have been flipped/shown on the aftermarket - meaning that people who have bought our boards have enjoyed them enough to keep in their collection. This to me is the value perception of what we do - not the after market price. If things run successfully, I will definitely be interested in manufacturing and selling more boards, with more options. We have even more ideas but have to be realistic on what we can achieve and in what timeframes, but we are only 3 people with small amount of capital, living in an expensive country. We also have other projects in the works, mostly collabs, and will reveal more "news" on that when we are ready.
this is going to be like the gskt 00. Complete success. I really want one (REALLY I WANT ONE), but it's so limited i am not going to get one probably, and after the sale people will flip them for 3 times the price.
The limited runs it's the only thing that i hate about the community.
Beautiful board, looks super nice :)
Nah. the Gskt 00 is a budget keyboard. This won't be as crazy since the price point--deservedly--is going to be much higher.
I mean to be fair $450-$550 isn't that much higher than the gskt-00 (which came out to about $350 with bells and whistles)
I mean, it's $150 more than the GSKT even after maxing out the GSKT.
Is it a bit unfair to compare prices at this point - I wanted to give a ball park figure so people could have an idea. We have still yet to finalise the packaging options, and extras - so that pricepoint is purely for a base kit, which should provide everything for a fantastic baseline experience. Any extras is a nice to have and entirely up to you :) There's a bit more bits and pieces going on with this board, for example our custom rubber feet, which I'd paid a mould for out of pocket, which gets subsidised over more boards being sold - so there's a bit of accounting and logistics involved to offer these options to you. I don't actually mind the GB running process and delivery, but it does take a lot of time, risk assessment and trust that things work out between ourselves, factories and end user. That is why I want to do an instock model for the public, the burden of risk is on us and our belief that we can deliver a product to you. This means that vs. gb pricing, the instock model has a bit of a 'premium' since it is tying up money that could have been used else where. I do think we can hit around the 500$ ball park, for comparison that was the price for the EXT65 which was also instock, and gave gasket kits with several materials and enabled us to create relationships between our factories and getting feedback from our users. I would love to share way more about the process as well, maybe sometime over a podcast or something.
Can you explain/provide pics on how you can "choose" to only use one mounting solution per side on a single plate?
Like, if you use an O-ring, won't the top mount and gasket tabs be free to rub against the case?
The internals of the case have been designed so that it is possible for one, single type of mounting to be engaged without conflicting with the other types. When the plate is top mounted, it does not come into contact with the bottom piece of the case. There is enough clearance so the stand offs for the o ring and the space for the sandwich mounting tabs don’t touch the plate (provided the o ring and gaskets are taken out).
(https://imgur.com/rLFP2dN.jpg)
Note: this is a cross section of our model, we have not cut the prototype :)
Red is the o-ring
Blue is the PCB
Yellow parts are brass
Hopefully it shows when the o-ring is in place, the tabs on the plate don’t touch the bottom half
and finally....
People have asked about the brass weight - I haven't taken it out but with my DYI options of measuring weight (my digital scale broke, I may be getting fat), I've hacked together a simple measurement of the board with caps and switches.
*drumroll*
(https://i.imgur.com/qrd2qJM.jpg)
Setting the tare weight (400g)
(https://imgur.com/MP9Fl3E.jpg)
Total: 2.4kg + 0.4kg = 2.8kg
(https://imgur.com/V6YOi8S.jpg)
Sorry for the wall of text. Hope all that is helpful in your decision to support us!
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 25 January 2020, 06:22:26
All great information. Especially that diagram. And thanks for the Instagram reminder. Turns out I was already following you, I just hadn't seen that post yet.With all those mounting methods, this a no brainer. Must-buy.Haha. I was thinking the same thing. But I think it's just the angle and the super dark keycaps. I'd love to see some rendors or a prototype in some lighter caps.
Only thing that I think should be worked out is bottom row.
One question: the spacing between keys is normal spacing? Must just be my eyes, but the pics make it seems slightly different.
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Normal spacing. The "artsy"-ness of the photos might be giving you that illusion. We try to never show renders because I believe that it can be misleading on what the final product will be like, whereas prototypes tend to be much closer - but this limits the options of "showing off" the board. I do have some more pictures on my personal instagram, and I should post more actually (thanks for reminding) - username is aeryxz. My prototype is rose gold and I have jamon on it, previously I had SA olivia.This looks incredible, would love to see cyan as an accent option, would look so good with the upcoming Atlantis keyset.
Thanks for the suggestion, teal/cyan is something I'd also like to provide.this is going to be like the gskt 00. Complete success. I really want one (REALLY I WANT ONE), but it's so limited i am not going to get one probably, and after the sale people will flip them for 3 times the price.
The limited runs it's the only thing that i hate about the community.
Beautiful board, looks super nice :)
Looking at our previous boards, not many have been flipped/shown on the aftermarket - meaning that people who have bought our boards have enjoyed them enough to keep in their collection. This to me is the value perception of what we do - not the after market price. If things run successfully, I will definitely be interested in manufacturing and selling more boards, with more options. We have even more ideas but have to be realistic on what we can achieve and in what timeframes, but we are only 3 people with small amount of capital, living in an expensive country. We also have other projects in the works, mostly collabs, and will reveal more "news" on that when we are ready.this is going to be like the gskt 00. Complete success. I really want one (REALLY I WANT ONE), but it's so limited i am not going to get one probably, and after the sale people will flip them for 3 times the price.
The limited runs it's the only thing that i hate about the community.
Beautiful board, looks super nice :)
Nah. the Gskt 00 is a budget keyboard. This won't be as crazy since the price point--deservedly--is going to be much higher.
I mean to be fair $450-$550 isn't that much higher than the gskt-00 (which came out to about $350 with bells and whistles)
I mean, it's $150 more than the GSKT even after maxing out the GSKT.
Is it a bit unfair to compare prices at this point - I wanted to give a ball park figure so people could have an idea. We have still yet to finalise the packaging options, and extras - so that pricepoint is purely for a base kit, which should provide everything for a fantastic baseline experience. Any extras is a nice to have and entirely up to you :) There's a bit more bits and pieces going on with this board, for example our custom rubber feet, which I'd paid a mould for out of pocket, which gets subsidised over more boards being sold - so there's a bit of accounting and logistics involved to offer these options to you. I don't actually mind the GB running process and delivery, but it does take a lot of time, risk assessment and trust that things work out between ourselves, factories and end user. That is why I want to do an instock model for the public, the burden of risk is on us and our belief that we can deliver a product to you. This means that vs. gb pricing, the instock model has a bit of a 'premium' since it is tying up money that could have been used else where. I do think we can hit around the 500$ ball park, for comparison that was the price for the EXT65 which was also instock, and gave gasket kits with several materials and enabled us to create relationships between our factories and getting feedback from our users. I would love to share way more about the process as well, maybe sometime over a podcast or something.Can you explain/provide pics on how you can "choose" to only use one mounting solution per side on a single plate?
Like, if you use an O-ring, won't the top mount and gasket tabs be free to rub against the case?
The internals of the case have been designed so that it is possible for one, single type of mounting to be engaged without conflicting with the other types. When the plate is top mounted, it does not come into contact with the bottom piece of the case. There is enough clearance so the stand offs for the o ring and the space for the sandwich mounting tabs don’t touch the plate (provided the o ring and gaskets are taken out).Show Image(https://imgur.com/rLFP2dN.jpg)
Note: this is a cross section of our model, we have not cut the prototype :)
Red is the o-ring
Blue is the PCB
Yellow parts are brass
Hopefully it shows when the o-ring is in place, the tabs on the plate don’t touch the bottom half
and finally....
People have asked about the brass weight - I haven't taken it out but with my DYI options of measuring weight (my digital scale broke, I may be getting fat), I've hacked together a simple measurement of the board with caps and switches.
*drumroll*Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qrd2qJM.jpg)
Setting the tare weight (400g)Show Image(https://imgur.com/MP9Fl3E.jpg)
Total: 2.4kg + 0.4kg = 2.8kgShow Image(https://imgur.com/V6YOi8S.jpg)
Sorry for the wall of text. Hope all that is helpful in your decision to support us!
And totally understand on price. I'm disappointed I hadn't found you guys earlier as your previous boards look great and ive been reading up on the reviews. Very solid. Hopefully I can get in on this group buy purely for the opportunity to get it sooner and gaining access to new products in the ecosystem as soon as they're released.
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Post by: brln on Sat, 25 January 2020, 06:52:17
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Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 27 January 2020, 09:38:00
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Post by: djmantis on Mon, 27 January 2020, 17:41:10
Just wondering if I miss out on this round, could I be on the wait list for the next?
Post by: ywcsam on Mon, 27 January 2020, 18:34:21
My only concern is availability...judging from recent buys (cough cough GSKT), looks like 100 units for public will sell out in seconds. I understand larger quantity will bring other issues like lead time and QC, but sounds like your concern is lack of initial capital for more units. Perhaps you can open a short GB window, maybe an hour, so people who really want the keyboard and committed to buy will get a unit secured? I have seen this in Chinese GB and seems to work pretty well so I am just suggesting. :)
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 28 January 2020, 00:13:59
Will this be "in-stock" for the first public sale? Or will this always be "in-stock" on your website (ala a CannonKeys kinda situation with manufacturing rounds)?
Just wondering if I miss out on this round, could I be on the wait list for the next?
Will do an initial round first, if it's proven successful then we'll do another run soon after - we'll try keep it in stock if there's demand.
Definitely looking to get one. Love the concept of multiple mounting methods, it's like 3 keyboards in 1!
My only concern is availability...judging from recent buys (cough cough GSKT), looks like 100 units for public will sell out in seconds. I understand larger quantity will bring other issues like lead time and QC, but sounds like your concern is lack of initial capital for more units. Perhaps you can open a short GB window, maybe an hour, so people who really want the keyboard and committed to buy will get a unit secured? I have seen this in Chinese GB and seems to work pretty well so I am just suggesting. :)
I will be doing a 'small' gb for friends and family - because there's a level of trust both ways. Doing a public groupbuy would just mean I'd have to do the work for running a gb as usual, whereas doing it small and private means I can just work on the other things without the need of updates/reporting.
Post by: sadhappypills on Tue, 28 January 2020, 00:37:33
Post by: ywcsam on Tue, 28 January 2020, 01:32:17
I will be doing a 'small' gb for friends and family - because there's a level of trust both ways. Doing a public groupbuy would just mean I'd have to do the work for running a gb as usual, whereas doing it small and private means I can just work on the other things without the need of updates/reporting.You are my new best friend ;)
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 28 January 2020, 04:58:02
Haha. Right? What if we trust you as if we've been lifelong friends?I will be doing a 'small' gb for friends and family - because there's a level of trust both ways. Doing a public groupbuy would just mean I'd have to do the work for running a gb as usual, whereas doing it small and private means I can just work on the other things without the need of updates/reporting.You are my new best friend ;)
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Post by: brenbread on Tue, 28 January 2020, 11:02:27
Post by: willyG on Tue, 28 January 2020, 12:11:18
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 28 January 2020, 12:18:03
Any chance for us not-VIP's to get one of the limited edition color-ways?Live sacrifice!
Post by: brothercore on Tue, 28 January 2020, 15:42:29
Post by: denym_ on Tue, 28 January 2020, 17:45:08
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Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 29 January 2020, 03:32:41
Sorry wasn't able to find any information on what colors is this supposed to be released? Would be my first time buying it not from stock or mass drop. How does this whole ordering process work? Tried to figure this out for keycult and there it seems to be some sort of lottery.
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Follow this thread or my instagram (@aeryxz, @aeboards) and all the info about dates will be released there. FYI there's going to be a delay across the board because of the CNY/Coronavirus, so some time may slip out for that. But either way, stay tuned and we will release more info and sound tests etc!
Post by: willyG on Wed, 29 January 2020, 08:38:07
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Post by: DukeEsquire on Wed, 29 January 2020, 09:33:11
Sorry wasn't able to find any information on what colors is this supposed to be released? Would be my first time buying it not from stock or mass drop. How does this whole ordering process work? Tried to figure this out for keycult and there it seems to be some sort of lottery.
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Case Colours
Signature Colours
• Black
• Aegis Navy
• Space Grey
Limited Edition Colours
• Influencer Red
• Limited Edition Vickrey Colour
Post by: JvMil on Wed, 29 January 2020, 17:19:20
Post by: Acabi on Wed, 29 January 2020, 20:53:59
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 29 January 2020, 21:12:01
Does the clear coating on the brass weight prevent patina and corrosion from appearing on the brass? Is there also a coating on the accent as well? Thanks! It really does look great.
Yes.
Yes.
Thanks!
Sorry wasn't able to find any information on what colors is this supposed to be released? Would be my first time buying it not from stock or mass drop. How does this whole ordering process work? Tried to figure this out for keycult and there it seems to be some sort of lottery.
Best
Case Colours
Signature Colours
• Black
• Aegis Navy
• Space Grey
Limited Edition Colours
• Influencer Red
• Limited Edition Vickrey Colour
Will be up on the aeboards website soon. It's the same signature colours from the EXT65 and Aegis (Except for Dark Gray)
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 29 January 2020, 21:16:56
Hype meter rising!Does the clear coating on the brass weight prevent patina and corrosion from appearing on the brass? Is there also a coating on the accent as well? Thanks! It really does look great.
Yes.
Yes.
Thanks!Sorry wasn't able to find any information on what colors is this supposed to be released? Would be my first time buying it not from stock or mass drop. How does this whole ordering process work? Tried to figure this out for keycult and there it seems to be some sort of lottery.
Best
Case Colours
Signature Colours
• Black
• Aegis Navy
• Space Grey
Limited Edition Colours
• Influencer Red
• Limited Edition Vickrey Colour
Will be up on the aeboards website soon. It's the same signature colours from the EXT65 and Aegis (Except for Dark Gray)
Post by: neojonathan on Wed, 29 January 2020, 21:39:19
Post by: d00deitsnik on Thu, 30 January 2020, 03:20:20
Will be up on the aeboards website soon. It's the same signature colours from the EXT65 and Aegis (Except for Dark Gray)
Will you have pictures of protos for the Limited Edition colors soon as well?
Post by: bowen on Thu, 30 January 2020, 03:45:16
Will you be offering different colour plates other than brass? Not a problem if not, I’m just going for GMK Blink colour scheme.
Post by: Denyial on Thu, 30 January 2020, 04:51:04
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Post by: YungDaff on Thu, 30 January 2020, 06:59:25
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 30 January 2020, 07:37:47
As I am new to the hobby I have not tried all the mounting styles yet. Nice to see a board that can let me try out several ones. Definitely in for this one.Right?! Definitely appeals to me as a not noob not yet veteran as well. Feel like it works on all levels.
Post by: Serious salamander on Thu, 30 January 2020, 10:20:32
As I am new to the hobby I have not tried all the mounting styles yet. Nice to see a board that can let me try out several ones. Definitely in for this one.Right?! Definitely appeals to me as a not noob not yet veteran as well. Feel like it works on all levels.
Same! I'm hoping I'm fast enough for the public sales. I love the aesthetic too with the metal accent.
Post by: ilemondrop on Thu, 30 January 2020, 13:18:56
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Post by: Sedyn on Fri, 31 January 2020, 00:43:36
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:58:37
Noob here. I signed up here just to say I'm very interested. Curious, the brass looking line around the sides/back of the case, is that just a visual aspect of the design or is that the side of the plate?
It's just an accent, I asked earlier in the thread.
@aeryxz And man, just started looking for a southpaw and realized you made the EXT65, what a beautiful board. Don't suppose there will be an R2 at some point?
Post by: Pach on Sat, 01 February 2020, 11:10:54
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Sat, 01 February 2020, 18:55:48
Post by: segami on Sun, 02 February 2020, 00:14:50
Any chance there will be ALPS support for the PCB?
This^^
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 02 February 2020, 18:45:27
Noob here. I signed up here just to say I'm very interested. Curious, the brass looking line around the sides/back of the case, is that just a visual aspect of the design or is that the side of the plate?
It's just an accent, I asked earlier in the thread.
@aeryxz And man, just started looking for a southpaw and realized you made the EXT65, what a beautiful board. Don't suppose there will be an R2 at some point?
Looking to do an”DYI” cut your own case design for it, we will release files and sell pcbs. As for round 2, if there’s demand for it after constellation. Was a great project and layout and would like to do it again.
Any chance there will be ALPS support for the PCB?
I’ve asked for a pcb design for alps and plate but no promises. May well as an add on kit down the track once we have sold some constellations and there’s demand for alps. Would require some testing as well before I feel comfortable selling it.
Post by: dRpkebs on Sun, 02 February 2020, 20:52:25
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Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 02 February 2020, 21:04:33
Noob here. I signed up here just to say I'm very interested. Curious, the brass looking line around the sides/back of the case, is that just a visual aspect of the design or is that the side of the plate?
It's just an accent, I asked earlier in the thread.
@aeryxz And man, just started looking for a southpaw and realized you made the EXT65, what a beautiful board. Don't suppose there will be an R2 at some point?
Looking to do an”DYI” cut your own case design for it, we will release files and sell pcbs. As for round 2, if there’s demand for it after constellation. Was a great project and layout and would like to do it again.
Ooo. I like that route. I could def get some acrylic work done to house it. Will be looking for that down the line. Well after this. So far this might be my board of the year, and it's only Feb, lol.
Post by: Surefoot on Mon, 03 February 2020, 03:16:28
Post by: ItsDante on Mon, 03 February 2020, 07:08:12
Great work!
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 03 February 2020, 20:22:29
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Post by: hottrout on Wed, 05 February 2020, 10:14:12
This looks absolutely gorgeous, worth shifting from ISO to ANSI for, I'm in.
See, this is where I am at as well. Can I readjust to justify buying? Not convinced just yet but following in the meantime.
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 05 February 2020, 10:37:11
This looks absolutely gorgeous, worth shifting from ISO to ANSI for, I'm in.
See, this is where I am at as well. Can I readjust to justify buying? Not convinced just yet but following in the meantime.
Just imagine if every keyboard purchase was easier! :D
Post by: hiisdesign on Thu, 06 February 2020, 12:45:57
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Post by: Makaveli6103 on Fri, 07 February 2020, 12:44:35
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 07 February 2020, 21:44:17
Post by: Lurkings on Sat, 08 February 2020, 02:09:49
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 08 February 2020, 19:41:36
Def not my first build but could be my last. This is the only board as of late that's really kept my interest outside of some crazy split and southpaw boards.
I do love the southpaw layout. The EXT65 i've been using since release has been stowed away while I test out the constellation.
Didn't get time to do a video this weekend, because I got a puppy!
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 08 February 2020, 20:40:21
Def not my first build but could be my last. This is the only board as of late that's really kept my interest outside of some crazy split and southpaw boards.
I do love the southpaw layout. The EXT65 i've been using since release has been stowed away while I test out the constellation.
Didn't get time to do a video this weekend, because I got a puppy!
Grats! Puppies are both awesome, and intense, lol. And I'm sad I missed out on the EXT65. Hopefully with a lucky constellation grab I'll be satisfied!
Post by: akina on Sat, 08 February 2020, 22:29:20
the black one looks perfect for the gmk hero set but maybe one matching even more could be cool
Post by: mechanicalbeginner on Sun, 09 February 2020, 12:03:06
ill get one for sure, any idea on the price?
the black one looks perfect for the gmk hero set but maybe one matching even more could be cool
$450-$550 supposedly, honestly wouldnt be surprised if it was higher because its an in stock item
this is definitely a buy for me because of all the mounting options
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 09 February 2020, 14:20:39
Again. Totally realize that's just how it is, but in stock is cool.
Post by: mechanicalbeginner on Sun, 09 February 2020, 16:05:11
I'm just a huge fan of supporting in stock. If it's a widely praised board, and looks as gorgeous as this, I want others to have the opportunity. I don't mind rare one-offs existing. But it feels bad when it's someone's endgame and they're forced to pay twice as much cause they were a month late in finding it.
Again. Totally realize that's just how it is, but in stock is cool.
lol of course we are fans of in-stock, we don't take any of the risk
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 09 February 2020, 16:40:05
Eh. I'd argue there's still risk. Just cause it's in stock now doesn't mean it'll be supported or have replacement parts for forever. And it's no guarantee of quality.I'm just a huge fan of supporting in stock. If it's a widely praised board, and looks as gorgeous as this, I want others to have the opportunity. I don't mind rare one-offs existing. But it feels bad when it's someone's endgame and they're forced to pay twice as much cause they were a month late in finding it.
Again. Totally realize that's just how it is, but in stock is cool.
lol of course we are fans of in-stock, we don't take any of the risk
Don't think we have to worry about that in this case. But I've backed tons of risky boards this past year. At least thats not a reason for me.
Post by: PikaJoyce on Sun, 09 February 2020, 16:49:02
Just wanna note that he plans on having a limited stock. It still sounds like there will be a lot of hype around this board. Which means if it gets popular enough, it’ll be similar to what happened with the Unikorn extras as well as what happened with GSKT. Basically it’s limited FCFS no matter how you look at it. But of course, we aren’t the ones bearing any risk that typically comes hand in hand with GBs (inevitable delays, factories pulling the cash grab and go, etc). I trust that the QC will be tight enough so l that we don’t have to wait 2 years to get a board in our hands.Eh. I'd argue there's still risk. Just cause it's in stock now doesn't mean it'll be supported or have replacement parts for forever. And it's no guarantee of quality.I'm just a huge fan of supporting in stock. If it's a widely praised board, and looks as gorgeous as this, I want others to have the opportunity. I don't mind rare one-offs existing. But it feels bad when it's someone's endgame and they're forced to pay twice as much cause they were a month late in finding it.
Again. Totally realize that's just how it is, but in stock is cool.
lol of course we are fans of in-stock, we don't take any of the risk
Don't think we have to worry about that in this case. But I've backed tons of risky boards this past year. At least thats not a reason for me.
With that being said, it also means that folks coming in a month late would still not be able to buy this board when however many in stock units sell out.
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 09 February 2020, 17:13:51
Post by: d00deitsnik on Mon, 10 February 2020, 01:36:57
Yeah. So I guess it's still a FCFS. From what was said it's confusing as to whether it'll be restocked or not. Or just supported in the future, for those who already bought.
How will they know what the interest is like after they run out of the first run? That part kinda confused me (if I remember reading it correctly).
Post by: PocketAces on Mon, 10 February 2020, 06:39:45
Could we get renders in the other colors?
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Post by: Pach on Mon, 10 February 2020, 18:05:28
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Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 11 February 2020, 04:59:09
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 11 February 2020, 05:45:56
Yeah. So I guess it's still a FCFS. From what was said it's confusing as to whether it'll be restocked or not. Or just supported in the future, for those who already bought.
How will they know what the interest is like after they run out of the first run? That part kinda confused me (if I remember reading it correctly).
Speed of how quick it sells, people messaging about r2 etc. For example, ext65 still gets requested, and because of that, we are doing a revision pcb for ext65, and releasing files to cut your own case. If there's still demand, then a round 2 may happen. Assessing risk is probably the most difficult thing to do as someone who wants to do instock, it takes capital and guts to see it out to the end, with so many moving parts that things that can go wrong. I don't like the gb model because it means that you're playing around with other people's money, and if someone does go wrong, it's harder to control. So far we've been lucky that we haven't had to dip into our own pockets too often, prototyping is expensive and is offset by selling more.
Having said that, we'll be delayed and possible moving to q2 just because of the stuff that's happening in China. Unfortunately that's the way things are at the moment. We will most likely do one more set of prototypes with minor tweaks from our current prototypes.
I dunno. It's so rare to find a 65 without any blockers. I love this just for that.
We think so too! I want to offer blockered styles down the track if there's demand for it.
Can't wait to see all the color options rendered on this board!
Most likely we won't have renders. I'll be doing another round of proto, we're confident on our signature colours, so maybe looking to do something a bit left field like a lilac or something like that. Open to suggestions.
Yeah. So I guess it's still a FCFS. From what was said it's confusing as to whether it'll be restocked or not. Or just supported in the future, for those who already bought.
If it's successful and people want it, then yeah - will be restocked. I wish there was better way to keep a production line going of these things, but at the end of the day, we have to make it manageable amount to deliver and maintain QC. We are only 3 people, and don't have access to a warehouse, and rely a lot of friends to help us out when we need it :)
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 11 February 2020, 06:09:39
Post by: d00deitsnik on Tue, 11 February 2020, 15:50:19
And I still think the plate looks super cool. :thumb:
Post by: sevenseacat on Tue, 11 February 2020, 23:44:09
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 19 February 2020, 19:11:17
how have I only just seen this now? I am rather interested, I've been looking for a good quality 65...
There's been some noise about it on discord / insta
I've done some type tests on video so at some point I will stitch it together and upload it.
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 19 February 2020, 20:10:49
how have I only just seen this now? I am rather interested, I've been looking for a good quality 65...
There's been some noise about it on discord / insta
I've done some type tests on video so at some point I will stitch it together and upload it.
def excited to see that video. Of course I want 3 videos, one for each config, but I'll just have to live otherwise.
Post by: shxWN on Wed, 19 February 2020, 20:51:13
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 19 February 2020, 21:04:33
Post by: inifist on Mon, 02 March 2020, 15:03:13
Been looking for a custom I like for a real long time.
And with 3 mounting methods & hopefully some plate options, I'll finally figure myself out. :p
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 02 March 2020, 15:14:29
how have I only just seen this now? I am rather interested, I've been looking for a good quality 65...
There's been some noise about it on discord / insta
I've done some type tests on video so at some point I will stitch it together and upload it.
def excited to see that video. Of course I want 3 videos, one for each config, but I'll just have to live otherwise.
Soon!
We are in talks again with our manufacturing people’s so things are starting to move again. We have made a few changes based on our tests over the last months and will do another round of prototyping. This will add a bit of delay as expected but we think it will improve feel and sound and is worth it. It’s all a bit vague but will show you all what we mean when we get the new proto and test it out a bit.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 06 March 2020, 04:11:48
Post by: fudegudedude on Fri, 06 March 2020, 10:09:20
Also please offer white.
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 07 March 2020, 18:54:11
Zambumon reppin that EXT65. Anxiously awaiting those PCBs
Post by: eyedrop on Sat, 07 March 2020, 23:09:36
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 08 March 2020, 07:46:54
You got a EXT65, Zeelobby?Nah. Sadly I missed out. I really want one. But at least theyr going to release an updated PCB in a bit, and there's been hints of some case option. Maybe acrylic files or who knows. Definitely excited.
Post by: baoduy23 on Sun, 08 March 2020, 09:09:16
Post by: kbye on Sun, 08 March 2020, 17:36:27
Love this keeb, looking forward to updates
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:17:17
ill get one for sure, any idea on the price?
the black one looks perfect for the gmk hero set but maybe one matching even more could be cool
Looking at 520ish at this point, if everything goes to plan.
Will there be any extra plate materials offered?
We are about to test a 4.5mm brass and polycarb plates. The base kit comes with 1.5mm brass.
Any update for GB Date :)
FNF GB is underway. Looking at Q2 at this point, earlier if we're lucky. Still got some logistics things going on too, so hopefully will sort that stuff out soon.
Post by: dbeats824 on Mon, 09 March 2020, 09:43:44
ill get one for sure, any idea on the price?
the black one looks perfect for the gmk hero set but maybe one matching even more could be cool
Looking at 520ish at this point, if everything goes to plan.Will there be any extra plate materials offered?
We are about to test a 4.5mm brass and polycarb plates. The base kit comes with 1.5mm brass.Any update for GB Date :)
FNF GB is underway. Looking at Q2 at this point, earlier if we're lucky. Still got some logistics things going on too, so hopefully will sort that stuff out soon.
4.5mm brass plate would be amazing. Please keep us updated on if it works out or not!
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 09 March 2020, 11:07:24
Post by: PocketAces on Mon, 09 March 2020, 12:02:28
Will there be accent color choices other than raw brass?
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Post by: Surostu on Sun, 05 April 2020, 00:02:59
Post by: Pach on Sun, 05 April 2020, 09:48:55
Is the sale still good for Q2 2020? May? June?
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 07 April 2020, 02:25:01
How is it going? I'm anxious for an update, it's been a while :p
Is the sale still good for Q2 2020? May? June?
Yeah looking like that. Still waiting for news on this side.
How does space grey look?
Will there be accent color choices other than raw brass?
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Black, Dark Gray, Red
Post by: jauny on Tue, 07 April 2020, 09:19:26
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Post by: ElKapitain on Fri, 10 April 2020, 19:37:51
Post by: eyedrop on Fri, 10 April 2020, 19:39:33
The Aegis Navy looks so gorgeous. Any news on if we may see this soon?The AE navy is one of their signature color, it will definitely be part of the constellation choices.
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Post by: Kenny20x2 on Sun, 12 April 2020, 08:50:06
Post by: eyedrop on Sun, 12 April 2020, 14:14:52
Will paypal be a payment option
I do not believe keyboardtreehouse accepts Paypal.
Post by: are2dcrz on Mon, 13 April 2020, 01:44:43
Post by: Basckk on Mon, 13 April 2020, 02:04:25
Post by: bard on Mon, 13 April 2020, 03:35:51
Been following the Constellation 65% GB since that start. Can't wait for the GB... I hope I'm able to get one
you are not alone :p
Post by: Badmutha on Mon, 13 April 2020, 12:18:00
The fact it's Australian is just another plus.
What are the chances of getting in on a GB for something like this? Seems like it'll sell out in minutes
Post by: BigBabyJesus on Mon, 13 April 2020, 16:01:33
Post by: Pach on Mon, 13 April 2020, 20:17:18
As someone that's new to the mech scene and looking to get in on a good GB, I think I've found my match. Being able to try multiple mounting methods on one keeb seems like a great idea.My prediction is that it will sell out in minutes, if not even sooner depending on the number of units they have (At least 100). Just gotta be ready on GB day, whenever that's announced. ;)
The fact it's Australian is just another plus.
What are the chances of getting in on a GB for something like this? Seems like it'll sell out in minutes
Post by: edctog on Tue, 14 April 2020, 20:02:03
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Post by: eczactly on Wed, 15 April 2020, 19:39:23
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Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 15 April 2020, 20:27:10
I believe we may have a case of first Constellation in the wild...Can verify this is a real-world sighting. Can assume a typing test is around the corner.
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Post by: HypeZero on Wed, 15 April 2020, 21:26:30
Post by: Pach on Fri, 17 April 2020, 11:32:23
I believe we may have a case of first Constellation in the wild...ya think that's the vickrey color?
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edit: credit to TaeKeyboards on Youtube with this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PERTVJFSgRg& (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PERTVJFSgRg&)
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Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 12:18:43
I’d be very interested in adding this to my 65% collection!
Post by: Pach on Mon, 27 April 2020, 12:28:44
Has pricing been announced yet?
I’d be very interested in adding this to my 65% collection!
what's the price range?
I'm aiming for 450-550. Trying to get it cheaper as possible, but for a reference, our previous model the EXT65 was 500.
Looks like around 500, but that was announced end of January. We haven't really heard of any updates since then. I hope an update comes soon, I want this before summer ends :(
Post by: RedBeardDog on Tue, 28 April 2020, 12:28:31
Sad...
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 28 April 2020, 16:02:37
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Post by: monkeywants on Sun, 03 May 2020, 03:46:20
Post by: break on Sun, 03 May 2020, 14:33:45
Is there any way of registering interest at this point? So as to know when the keyboard will be released to the public for sale.
Best way is to follow AEBoards on Instagram or keep an eye on this thread.
Post by: CrlaoSvloadr on Sat, 09 May 2020, 20:33:13
Post by: BreezyR on Sun, 10 May 2020, 01:12:14
Post by: eyedrop on Sun, 10 May 2020, 09:02:22
Prepared to have my bank call me for fraud protection, this and the Think 6.5 look fantastic. If only there were renders of the red one...
You mean this? ;D
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Post by: RedBeardDog on Sun, 10 May 2020, 13:27:37
Post by: skrunk on Sun, 10 May 2020, 14:40:27
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those are some huge feet
board looks amazing!
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 10 May 2020, 19:27:12
Honestly I'm a huge fan of big feet. My bumpons on other boards get knocked off all the time.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654506927451275295/705623507337216071/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654506927451275295/705623665819123732/image0.jpg)
those are some huge feet
board looks amazing!
Post by: __init__ on Sun, 10 May 2020, 19:29:56
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Post by: karlb on Mon, 11 May 2020, 03:58:04
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 11 May 2020, 08:47:45
Will paypal be a payment option
I do not believe keyboardtreehouse accepts Paypal.
No, we don't due to the changing paypal rules about charge backs. They are seemingly becoming anti-vendor friendly these days...
Will there be half plates to take advantage of the pcb cut outs? What plate materials will be offered?
No half plates as of yet, but since we have this modular system in mind, we can offer it later
We are offering 1.5mm brass that comes with base kit, and then addons of 4.5mm Polycarb and 4.5mm Brass. I enjoy the thick brass one myself.
HOT DANG! And from Aus no less! I hope I'll be able to snag one :)
Yeap. Make sure you're on the aussie discord... for uhhh non specific reasons.
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those are some huge feet
board looks amazing!
You know what they say about big feet. Big toes.
Is there any way of registering interest at this point? So as to know when the keyboard will be released to the public for sale.
We've received production samples and currently testing them. We will be machining the rest fairly soon... fingerse crossed.
Has pricing been announced yet?
I’d be very interested in adding this to my 65% collection!what's the price range?
I'm aiming for 450-550. Trying to get it cheaper as possible, but for a reference, our previous model the EXT65 was 500.
Looks like around 500, but that was announced end of January. We haven't really heard of any updates since then. I hope an update comes soon, I want this before summer ends :(
Yeah, as you can imagine COVID19, shutting down of china and current state of logistics threw things out of whack. We're finally getting back on track-ish, just a few more things to close off!
Has pricing been announced yet?
I’d be very interested in adding this to my 65% collection!
Aiming around 500- but to be finalised. Shipping is now costing more due to surcharges, which makes it a bit of a bummer to pass this on.
Does this PCB have ESD protection? I couldn't find that information and it seems important for a custom kit to reduce the chances of it dying (I'd buy an extra PCB anyways).
No but it should be resilient enough for your use cases. Don't take it swimming or through a tesla machine.
As someone that's new to the mech scene and looking to get in on a good GB, I think I've found my match. Being able to try multiple mounting methods on one keeb seems like a great idea.My prediction is that it will sell out in minutes, if not even sooner depending on the number of units they have (At least 100). Just gotta be ready on GB day, whenever that's announced. ;)
The fact it's Australian is just another plus.
What are the chances of getting in on a GB for something like this? Seems like it'll sell out in minutes
It will be in stock. We'll do multiple timezone waves. We ordered a bit more than 100, due to demand. I'm hoping most of yall can get one! We'll keep supporting it with new addons like plate layouts, materials, accent pieces etc, so I imagine there will be future runs to fast follow if the appetite is still there. We wanted a 65% for ourselves to try stuff with, and hopefully it resonates with the community to also want this.
The Aegis Navy looks so gorgeous. Any news on if we may see this soon?The AE navy is one of their signature color, it will definitely be part of the constellation choices.
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Yeap! It's actually a difficult colour to match and reproduce, so it does cost a bit more to get it to where we think it's acceptable. Hence my annoyance previously at other people rebranding this pantone colour.
It's my favourite colour and the way light touches and changes the tone makes it a very special navy for me.
I believe we may have a case of first Constellation in the wild...ya think that's the vickrey color?
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edit: credit to TaeKeyboards on Youtube with this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PERTVJFSgRg& (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PERTVJFSgRg&)
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Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 11 May 2020, 08:54:15
We'll have more pictures soon(tm)
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Post by: Loges on Mon, 11 May 2020, 09:02:27
My place is a bit dusty to excuse the dust. And my lamp is a very warm colour which affects the anno. And excuse the cables. In other words, it's a work spaceWhat switches are you using? And how do they feel and sound?
We'll have more pictures soon(tm)Show Image(https://imgur.com/3ncaGKP.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/8R3eMIw.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/ZwsiLW2.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/18gmzTQ.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/oIGOvdX.jpg)
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Post by: Pach on Mon, 11 May 2020, 09:04:40
My place is a bit dusty to excuse the dust. And my lamp is a very warm colour which affects the anno. And excuse the cables. In other words, it's a work space :p
We'll have more pictures soon(tm)Show Image(https://imgur.com/3ncaGKP.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/8R3eMIw.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/ZwsiLW2.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/18gmzTQ.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/oIGOvdX.jpg)
That is mighty thicc
Post by: ab042896 on Mon, 11 May 2020, 09:12:08
My place is a bit dusty to excuse the dust. And my lamp is a very warm colour which affects the anno. And excuse the cables. In other words, it's a work space :p
We'll have more pictures soon(tm)Show Image(https://imgur.com/3ncaGKP.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/8R3eMIw.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/ZwsiLW2.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/18gmzTQ.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/oIGOvdX.jpg)
The finish quality on these parts is outstanding :cool:
Post by: RedBeardDog on Mon, 11 May 2020, 10:29:46
Post by: CrlaoSvloadr on Mon, 11 May 2020, 15:45:51
My place is a bit dusty to excuse the dust. And my lamp is a very warm colour which affects the anno. And excuse the cables. In other words, it's a work space :p
We'll have more pictures soon(tm)Show Image(https://imgur.com/3ncaGKP.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/8R3eMIw.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/ZwsiLW2.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/18gmzTQ.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/oIGOvdX.jpg)
This looks insane. Cannot wait! And that beautiful plate 👀 i'm set
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 11 May 2020, 17:32:06
My place is a bit dusty to excuse the dust. And my lamp is a very warm colour which affects the anno. And excuse the cables. In other words, it's a work spaceWhat switches are you using? And how do they feel and sound?
We'll have more pictures soon(tm)Show Image(https://imgur.com/3ncaGKP.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/8R3eMIw.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/ZwsiLW2.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/18gmzTQ.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/oIGOvdX.jpg)
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:eyes:
project I've been working on... nothing to announce yet.
Post by: kchlam on Tue, 12 May 2020, 00:05:51
Post by: eczactly on Tue, 12 May 2020, 08:03:25
My place is a bit dusty to excuse the dust. And my lamp is a very warm colour which affects the anno. And excuse the cables. In other words, it's a work space :p
We'll have more pictures soon(tm)Show Image(https://imgur.com/3ncaGKP.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/8R3eMIw.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/ZwsiLW2.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/18gmzTQ.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/oIGOvdX.jpg)
damn hot. makes me think of Zephyr.
Post by: RedBeardDog on Tue, 12 May 2020, 08:31:46
Post by: TeslaDev on Tue, 12 May 2020, 12:37:51
Post by: bard on Tue, 12 May 2020, 13:01:54
Post by: tazercow on Tue, 12 May 2020, 15:32:06
Post by: PikaJoyce on Tue, 12 May 2020, 15:44:51
My place is a bit dusty to excuse the dust. And my lamp is a very warm colour which affects the anno. And excuse the cables. In other words, it's a work space :pI'm looking forward to getting my hands on one. This is looking like it's really coming along! I also hope that there will be more future rounds in case I'm not quick enough. I am never fast enough for FCFS :C
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Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 12 May 2020, 18:40:08
are you going to change bottom design (for a better bumpon location/look)?
No these are custom feet designed for additional surface area, made with a thicker rubber material. You can use your own if you want to.
I can see GMK Lux looking amazing with those brass trim pieces. Really hope I get a chance at this!
Me too!
Is there going to be a typing sound test any time soon?
Yes soon(tm)
who is the pcb vendor?
PCB will come with a standard kit. Xelus designed it (he designed all the other AEBoards pcbs too!)
Post by: DoCallMeKing on Tue, 12 May 2020, 19:28:40
Is there any way to purchase a prototype or one that has imperfections even? I love the design and would settle for non perfect.
Post by: mta on Wed, 13 May 2020, 00:02:15
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Post by: CrlaoSvloadr on Fri, 22 May 2020, 11:54:24
I've been wondering if the 450-550 price range is still looking to be true, and if a groupbuy date is in the works? I've read that it's been moved to Q2 of 2020, but am just wondering how far into the quarter.
Lastly, i'd love to see the space grey colour if you've got the prototype around! I'm wondering how dark/light it'd be compared to most anodized aluminum greys.
Post by: x9Memoriez on Fri, 22 May 2020, 21:28:25
Wonderful work as always!
I've been wondering if the 450-550 price range is still looking to be true, and if a groupbuy date is in the works? I've read that it's been moved to Q2 of 2020, but am just wondering how far into the quarter.
Lastly, i'd love to see the space grey colour if you've got the prototype around! I'm wondering how dark/light it'd be compared to most anodized aluminum greys.
450-550 will almost certainly still hold true, although expect the upper half of that estimate.
Post by: break on Fri, 22 May 2020, 23:46:30
Wonderful work as always!
I've been wondering if the 450-550 price range is still looking to be true, and if a groupbuy date is in the works? I've read that it's been moved to Q2 of 2020, but am just wondering how far into the quarter.
Lastly, i'd love to see the space grey colour if you've got the prototype around! I'm wondering how dark/light it'd be compared to most anodized aluminum greys.
You can see the grey on the EXT65 product page: https://www.aeboards.com/ext65 (https://www.aeboards.com/ext65)
Post by: Xemnova on Sat, 23 May 2020, 20:34:38
Post by: TruIQ on Sat, 23 May 2020, 22:58:37
Post by: __init__ on Sun, 24 May 2020, 20:16:48
This is very nice! Quite honestly I want this board to be my first build, I'm worried it'll sellout in seconds since there's limited available. Looking forward to the typing test!
Also worried this will sellout. But still hopeful i'll be able to get my hands on one, fingers crossed!
Post by: Arithmetics on Sun, 24 May 2020, 23:11:44
Post by: mvkoto on Mon, 25 May 2020, 11:35:42
hopefully a raffle could be put together for something with this amount of anticipation.
i just recently heard of ppl using bots for FCFS. is this a prevalent issue in the mech keyboard community when it comes to these highly anticipated items?
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Mon, 25 May 2020, 11:49:06
hopefully a raffle could be put together for something with this amount of anticipation.
i just recently heard of ppl using bots for FCFS. is this a prevalent issue in the mech keyboard community when it comes to these highly anticipated items?
I'd assume so, it's prevalent in basically anything that is sold in limited quantities and has resale value. High end keyboards have some resale value. This is all an assumption of mine but I wouldn't put it past some to use bots.
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 25 May 2020, 17:16:01
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Post by: haiichuu on Tue, 26 May 2020, 23:28:06
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 26 May 2020, 23:51:12
Wonderful work as always!
I've been wondering if the 450-550 price range is still looking to be true, and if a groupbuy date is in the works? I've read that it's been moved to Q2 of 2020, but am just wondering how far into the quarter.
Lastly, i'd love to see the space grey colour if you've got the prototype around! I'm wondering how dark/light it'd be compared to most anodized aluminum greys.
450-550 will almost certainly still hold true, although expect the upper half of that estimate.
Yeah, due to new shipping COVID pricing, plus customs and additional logistics of things, I'm still trying to lower costs as much as possible.
Any chances of an aluminum plate? Excited to throw my wallet at this!
Alu plates maybe later down the track!
hopefully a raffle could be put together for something with this amount of anticipation.
i just recently heard of ppl using bots for FCFS. is this a prevalent issue in the mech keyboard community when it comes to these highly anticipated items?
We'll try to avoid botting, maybe putting a 1 person per household limit or something like that. We'll do something we did with the EXT65, having different waves/timezones for release so at least there will be a timeslot that is reasonable for you.
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Update:
We have tested the brass plate and it seems to be working great with our design. We're finalising the polycarb plate for initial issues and once those are sorted out, we're good to run with production.
Still waiting on a few more pieces as well to complete the whole packaging process!
Post by: LordOwen on Wed, 27 May 2020, 00:24:51
There's really no way to stagger release times in such a way that would prevent someone else in a different country from doing the same, but having different waves would be greatly appreciated so it maybe gives us a slightly better chance!
Post by: Xemnova on Mon, 01 June 2020, 17:08:25
Post by: keyboardkrill on Tue, 02 June 2020, 18:42:10
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 03 June 2020, 20:42:49
I've sourced alternative manufacturer for Orings, I believe my previous order was affected by COVID and lost at sea through the shipping container that toppled a few weeks ago. These were ordered pre-COVID. I will be testing with these new orings, but the dimensions and material density should be the same.
We've greenlit production about a week ago, but there's many pieces involved as well as higher MOQ - so I'll update you when things are "ready" or "readier".
Still waiting on our packaging with constellation, and I think when it is revealed you'll all be happy about the choice we made.
While it's almost end of Q2, it's likely that we'll start shipping some out to our FNF GB early Q3 if nothing else comes up (fingers crossed). Apologies for the delay, but we actually went through an extra round of prototyping and production samples to make sure we try to solve everything and ensure that we are happy with the product we're releasing.
For those who are worried about not being able to get one, there's 150units being made outside the FNF, and will be shipped to me in batches. This means that they will come to me, have QC and packing, then listed on the keyboard treehouse and shipped after purchase. We'll have several windows/timezones of releases, so there will be multiple chances to get one. Having said that, if there's still demand for more, we'll make more.
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 03 June 2020, 20:43:49
hopefully a raffle could be put together for something with this amount of anticipation.
i just recently heard of ppl using bots for FCFS. is this a prevalent issue in the mech keyboard community when it comes to these highly anticipated items?
I'd assume so, it's prevalent in basically anything that is sold in limited quantities and has resale value. High end keyboards have some resale value. This is all an assumption of mine but I wouldn't put it past some to use bots.
So far, our models (AEGIS, EXT65) haven't really hit the after market. This makes me happy as it means that people are actually using their boards, and I hope this will be the case with constellation.
Post by: break on Thu, 04 June 2020, 09:24:17
So far, our models (AEGIS, EXT65) haven't really hit the after market. This makes me happy as it means that people are actually using their boards, and I hope this will be the case with constellation.
Just want to confirm this as someone who bought an EXT65 after-market - they're really challenging to find. It took a lot of asking around, and there are many other folks looking for them on r/mm since I received mine.
If these boards were flipped regularly you'd see far more sale posts, but they're just not out there.
Post by: musicgecko on Sun, 07 June 2020, 00:53:34
Post by: LordOwen on Sun, 07 June 2020, 22:44:45
Thanks for the kind words everyone!
I've sourced alternative manufacturer for Orings, I believe my previous order was affected by COVID and lost at sea through the shipping container that toppled a few weeks ago. These were ordered pre-COVID. I will be testing with these new orings, but the dimensions and material density should be the same.
We've greenlit production about a week ago, but there's many pieces involved as well as higher MOQ - so I'll update you when things are "ready" or "readier".
Still waiting on our packaging with constellation, and I think when it is revealed you'll all be happy about the choice we made.
While it's almost end of Q2, it's likely that we'll start shipping some out to our FNF GB early Q3 if nothing else comes up (fingers crossed). Apologies for the delay, but we actually went through an extra round of prototyping and production samples to make sure we try to solve everything and ensure that we are happy with the product we're releasing.
For those who are worried about not being able to get one, there's 150units being made outside the FNF, and will be shipped to me in batches. This means that they will come to me, have QC and packing, then listed on the keyboard treehouse and shipped after purchase. We'll have several windows/timezones of releases, so there will be multiple chances to get one. Having said that, if there's still demand for more, we'll make more.
Judging from my reactions at seeing pictures of concepts and prototypes, and also from the reactions and feedback of just about everyone in this thread, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there's going to be a demand for more. MANY more.
Post by: adamjohari on Mon, 08 June 2020, 06:11:09
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Post by: Lyle88 on Tue, 23 June 2020, 07:41:11
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Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 23 June 2020, 07:58:08
Is the O ring mount just O rings between the plate/case where the screws thread?Nah. It's not burger. Official o-ring (Jane v2 ce, otd 356 mini, gskt-00, etc).
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Post by: CoolMike on Tue, 23 June 2020, 08:11:46
I don't believe you will have any issues hitting MOQ that's for sure.
GLW everything, I would love to add one of these to my collection.
Mike
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 25 June 2020, 18:57:29
You guys have a beautiful design here and I am really enjoying the weight design also.
I don't believe you will have any issues hitting MOQ that's for sure.
GLW everything, I would love to add one of these to my collection.
Mike
We won't have a problem because we set the MOQ and have bought out all the units. It will be instock when available to the public. This model works better for you as WE take on the risk, and is far more customer friendly than group buys. Keep in mind we are only 3 people doing this as a hobby part time, and still manage to raise the capital required for such a project...
Post by: Rew23 on Thu, 25 June 2020, 20:36:24
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Post by: Lyle88 on Tue, 30 June 2020, 08:25:55
Interesting, just looked at how the Jane ce. Do you know what the thought process is behind the gasket? I'm guessing that it's supposed to prevent switch noise traveling into the case?Is the O ring mount just O rings between the plate/case where the screws thread?Nah. It's not burger. Official o-ring (Jane v2 ce, otd 356 mini, gskt-00, etc).
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Post by: break on Tue, 30 June 2020, 09:01:05
Interesting, just looked at how the Jane ce. Do you know what the thought process is behind the gasket? I'm guessing that it's supposed to prevent switch noise traveling into the case?Is the O ring mount just O rings between the plate/case where the screws thread?Nah. It's not burger. Official o-ring (Jane v2 ce, otd 356 mini, gskt-00, etc).
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Here's a helpful explainer: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101731.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101731.0).
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Post by: mta on Thu, 16 July 2020, 12:06:12
Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 17 July 2020, 02:00:58
Will the Limited edition "Influencer Red" be available in small quantity in the public sale?
Not on public sale no.
Is the O ring mount just O rings between the plate/case where the screws thread?
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Between PCB and the cast specific standoffs.
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things are moving on with manufacturing. Some parts are complete, we're still looking at Q3 to ship these out.
Post by: regionfree on Sun, 19 July 2020, 20:34:31
yeah, the influencer red is really gorgeous!
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Post by: menuhin on Tue, 21 July 2020, 05:39:35
A point about the plate design:
The fixed layout has split-backspace and the plate still offers a 2u backspace slot.
May as well be a hotswap PCB if the layout is fixed.
Post by: tazercow on Fri, 24 July 2020, 01:00:06
Interested
A point about the plate design:
The fixed layout has split-backspace and the plate still offers a 2u backspace slot.
May as well be a hotswap PCB if the layout is fixed.
The plate design and keyboard layout diagram implies that either 2u or split backspace is possible. @aeryxz can you confirm this? Maybe post a pic of the pcb?
Post by: caronte0 on Sun, 26 July 2020, 04:49:40
Maybe i'm wrong but when you say "It will be instock when available to the public", that means the is it first come , first served?You guys have a beautiful design here and I am really enjoying the weight design also.
I don't believe you will have any issues hitting MOQ that's for sure.
GLW everything, I would love to add one of these to my collection.
Mike
We won't have a problem because we set the MOQ and have bought out all the units. It will be instock when available to the public. This model works better for you as WE take on the risk, and is far more customer friendly than group buys. Keep in mind we are only 3 people doing this as a hobby part time, and still manage to raise the capital required for such a project...
Post by: caronte0 on Sun, 26 July 2020, 04:54:56
The different mounting styles is a super nice feature.
Also 150 it's a really low number, there is a LOT, and i really mean A LOT of interest in this board, maybe after first batch (and all the winners have recieved their boards) you should made a GB with a 24h window, or something like that.
Also is there a discord to follow the process?
Post by: poyenc on Mon, 27 July 2020, 22:31:03
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 27 July 2020, 22:43:16
Interested
A point about the plate design:
The fixed layout has split-backspace and the plate still offers a 2u backspace slot.
May as well be a hotswap PCB if the layout is fixed.
The layout is fixed with 2 exceptions of the caps and split backspace.
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f67c44dc3cd9d7ff552fb7e10076240e
No hotswap since the team prefers soldered components, maybe later down the track.
Super interested in this board. The space grey is a dark grey or a light grey?
The different mounting styles is a super nice feature.
Also 150 it's a really low number, there is a LOT, and i really mean A LOT of interest in this board, maybe after first batch (and all the winners have recieved their boards) you should made a GB with a 24h window, or something like that.
Also is there a discord to follow the process?
We can always machine more later on. 150 is a lot for an instock (no gb) item, and it's our biggest project yet, but I'm sure with time we can scale up.
Maybe i'm wrong but when you say "It will be instock when available to the public", that means the is it first come , first served?You guys have a beautiful design here and I am really enjoying the weight design also.
I don't believe you will have any issues hitting MOQ that's for sure.
GLW everything, I would love to add one of these to my collection.
Mike
We won't have a problem because we set the MOQ and have bought out all the units. It will be instock when available to the public. This model works better for you as WE take on the risk, and is far more customer friendly than group buys. Keep in mind we are only 3 people doing this as a hobby part time, and still manage to raise the capital required for such a project...
Yes, waves of stock will be up on our vendor website, keyboard treehouse.
Super interested in this board. The space grey is a dark grey or a light grey?
The different mounting styles is a super nice feature.
Also 150 it's a really low number, there is a LOT, and i really mean A LOT of interest in this board, maybe after first batch (and all the winners have recieved their boards) you should made a GB with a 24h window, or something like that.
Also is there a discord to follow the process?
keyboardtreehouse.com/discord
It's a darker gray.
@aeryxz how's the FnF/prototype batch going?
yeah, the influencer red is really gorgeous!
Same batch as public - they're doing through annodisation at the moment. So hopefully will start shipping out in the next month I'm hoping.
Post by: thestateofmay on Tue, 28 July 2020, 00:05:02
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 29 July 2020, 01:00:34
I may have missed this somewhere, but we'll be notified days before the GB correct? I'd imagine It'd get grabbed up quickly given the number of slots.
Yeah just join the discord or follow us on instagram.
Post by: thestateofmay on Wed, 29 July 2020, 02:06:05
I may have missed this somewhere, but we'll be notified days before the GB correct? I'd imagine It'd get grabbed up quickly given the number of slots.
Yeah just join the discord or follow us on instagram.
Where is the Discord link?
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 29 July 2020, 02:35:57
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Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 25 August 2020, 00:03:41
We're getting to the finish line soon(tm) - it took a little longer than we wanted but that's the situation of things in 2020.
Once they're ready and packed, they'll reach us in Sydney. We'll spend time doing our internal QC and making sure that we have some boards we're happy to sell and send out.
The first wave of units will be the FNF GB - these will be shipped out first.
The next wave of units will be on the keyboard treehouse website. We'll definitely post information about release schedule when we have them in stock. We'll do multiple waves of times for releasing units, so that at least one of the windows will be around your prime time. We like doing waves of releases as it helps us manage and pack things at the rate we feel comfortable with, and it allows people multiple chances to try snag one. We'll put a limit of 1 per person for now.
We plan to have 150 units for instock public sale, with additional accessories. We'll also have accessories in sale from waves. The standard kit should give you everything you need to toy around with your base line experience - and don't worry if you miss out on accessories, we'll fast follow with additional accessories if there is a demand for it.
We'll probably do another round of PCBS with additional layout support, plates of other various materials (POM is a new favourite of mine, using it in the EXT65) and accent colours.
Please join the keyboard treehouse discord (keyboardtreehouse.com/discord) to keep up to date, and be part of the constellation conversation when it happens, as I'm keen to find out what people like, and what accessories are most in demand.
Until then, hope everyone has enjoyed the naevy switches (R2 will be soon, just making minor adjustments based on the first round of feedback), and EXT65r2 PCBs (I loved seeing people make their own cases for this great layout) - and we'll have more news soon(tm)
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 25 August 2020, 00:13:48
Post by: mechmafia on Tue, 25 August 2020, 03:17:11
Is it possible for me to know the specs of the dimensions of this keyboard somewhere?
Post by: bakuretsu on Tue, 25 August 2020, 04:08:41
I'm very interested in this keyboard :cool:
Is it possible for me to know the specs of the dimensions of this keyboard somewhere?
It's a very standard 65% layout, so it'll be basically the same size as most other 65% layout keyboards - about 13" wide x 5" front to back (about 33 cm x 12.5 cm).
Post by: eczactly on Tue, 25 August 2020, 09:25:10
Update: Annodisation is almost done.
We're getting to the finish line soon(tm) - it took a little longer than we wanted but that's the situation of things in 2020.
Once they're ready and packed, they'll reach us in Sydney. We'll spend time doing our internal QC and making sure that we have some boards we're happy to sell and send out.
The first wave of units will be the FNF GB - these will be shipped out first.
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Post by: etong415 on Tue, 25 August 2020, 14:17:25
Update: Annodisation is almost done.What plate materials will be offered in the initial purchase?
We're getting to the finish line soon(tm) - it took a little longer than we wanted but that's the situation of things in 2020.
Once they're ready and packed, they'll reach us in Sydney. We'll spend time doing our internal QC and making sure that we have some boards we're happy to sell and send out.
The first wave of units will be the FNF GB - these will be shipped out first.
The next wave of units will be on the keyboard treehouse website. We'll definitely post information about release schedule when we have them in stock. We'll do multiple waves of times for releasing units, so that at least one of the windows will be around your prime time. We like doing waves of releases as it helps us manage and pack things at the rate we feel comfortable with, and it allows people multiple chances to try snag one. We'll put a limit of 1 per person for now.
We plan to have 150 units for instock public sale, with additional accessories. We'll also have accessories in sale from waves. The standard kit should give you everything you need to toy around with your base line experience - and don't worry if you miss out on accessories, we'll fast follow with additional accessories if there is a demand for it.
We'll probably do another round of PCBS with additional layout support, plates of other various materials (POM is a new favourite of mine, using it in the EXT65) and accent colours.
Please join the keyboard treehouse discord (keyboardtreehouse.com/discord) to keep up to date, and be part of the constellation conversation when it happens, as I'm keen to find out what people like, and what accessories are most in demand.
Until then, hope everyone has enjoyed the naevy switches (R2 will be soon, just making minor adjustments based on the first round of feedback), and EXT65r2 PCBs (I loved seeing people make their own cases for this great layout) - and we'll have more news soon(tm)
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Post by: bakuretsu on Tue, 25 August 2020, 14:45:04
Post by: Oddstag on Tue, 25 August 2020, 15:14:06
Did you really need to quote the entire update to ask that?
What, we paying by the pixel here?
Post by: bakuretsu on Tue, 25 August 2020, 15:24:04
What, we paying by the pixel here?Clogging up the post with unnecessary blocks of text makes searching through it harder in the future.
Post by: KurageOuji on Tue, 25 August 2020, 16:02:55
What, we paying by the pixel here?Clogging up the post with unnecessary blocks of text makes searching through it harder in the future.
the irony.
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Post by: eczactly on Mon, 31 August 2020, 17:08:18
Post by: dRpkebs on Mon, 31 August 2020, 17:27:29
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got'em.I need this nowwww!!
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Post by: Kings on Mon, 31 August 2020, 17:47:09
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got'em.My body is ready
Post by: frostfiree on Mon, 31 August 2020, 18:33:15
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got'em.
Man, those colors and plate options. Definitely an endgame 65% if I can get my hands on it. Hope I can get it for retail :x
Post by: chriszhu on Mon, 31 August 2020, 18:45:12
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 31 August 2020, 19:58:34
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got'em.
N E Video Avail?
Yes.
Post by: lushiie on Mon, 31 August 2020, 20:29:03
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got'em.
N E Video Avail?
Yes.
Looks so nice.
Post by: aadk5 on Mon, 31 August 2020, 20:37:13
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got'em.
FINALLY! I really NEED a blue one in my life. Typically not into blockers on 65s, so this styling is perfect for me. I'm assuming we can order additional accent pieces to mix and match them when the time comes?
Post by: mudcakehoney on Mon, 31 August 2020, 22:24:48
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got'em.
Stunning! Ngl I was pretty nervous during the Tower build :eek:
Post by: __init__ on Mon, 31 August 2020, 22:44:23
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Mon, 31 August 2020, 22:45:59
I hope this isn't a dumb question but on the website it says it will be an in-stock board, does that mean it will be available year-round? Or available in batches year-round?
They will have a limited number of units available for purchase right away, unlike a typical GB where you place an order and wait months for the board.
Post by: premise_ on Mon, 31 August 2020, 22:48:22
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got'em.
Stunning! Ngl I was pretty nervous during the Tower build :eek:
Yes.
Post by: __init__ on Mon, 31 August 2020, 23:15:52
Does that mean that there is a possibility for a traditional group buy in the future?I hope this isn't a dumb question but on the website it says it will be an in-stock board, does that mean it will be available year-round? Or available in batches year-round?
They will have a limited number of units available for purchase right away, unlike a typical GB where you place an order and wait months for the board.
Post by: deedz on Tue, 01 September 2020, 01:13:06
In the video, the gasket mounted method shows the gap between the top aluminum piece and the bottom aluminum piece when he compresses it to show the compression. ( @ 5:34)
Does that mean if mounted in gasket form, the keyboard will always have that gap when the build is completed?
Post by: bakuretsu on Tue, 01 September 2020, 01:32:14
Noob question for you guys.
In the video, the gasket mounted method shows the gap between the top aluminum piece and the bottom aluminum piece when he compresses it to show the compression. ( @ 5:34)
Does that mean if mounted in gasket form, the keyboard will always have that gap when the build is completed?
That's just to show how much the gasket gets compressed by the case when you screw the top and bottom together. Bigger gap before compression = stiffer feeling plate.
Post by: deedz on Tue, 01 September 2020, 01:48:20
Noob question for you guys.
In the video, the gasket mounted method shows the gap between the top aluminum piece and the bottom aluminum piece when he compresses it to show the compression. ( @ 5:34)
Does that mean if mounted in gasket form, the keyboard will always have that gap when the build is completed?
That's just to show how much the gasket gets compressed by the case when you screw the top and bottom together. Bigger gap before compression = stiffer feeling plate.
Hahaha wow. Well I have definitely been educated.
Really appreciate the response :D
Post by: Nvr_Smile on Tue, 01 September 2020, 08:13:57
Post by: briyun on Tue, 01 September 2020, 10:43:06
Post by: break on Wed, 02 September 2020, 08:43:25
Have prices been determined? On the board itself and extra such as the 4.5mm plates, ect.
Prices have not yet been publicly released, no. You can check the website (https://www.aeboards.com/constellation) for those details, and they'll surely be posted here when ready.
Post by: Lastpadawan on Wed, 02 September 2020, 23:36:42
Post by: isot0nic on Thu, 03 September 2020, 22:01:34
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Thu, 03 September 2020, 22:02:36
How do I get this? Im new to the Mech keyboard scene, this would be my first board :)
Who's going to tell him?
Post by: isot0nic on Thu, 03 September 2020, 22:07:00
How do I get this? Im new to the Mech keyboard scene, this would be my first board :)
Who's going to tell him?
This is not a good sign...
Post by: isot0nic on Thu, 03 September 2020, 22:15:51
How do I get this? Im new to the Mech keyboard scene, this would be my first board :)
Who's going to tell him?
This is not a good sign...
Ok nevermind, just read through the post a bit. Hope to nab one at retail, thank you
Post by: jubei on Mon, 07 September 2020, 22:24:25
Post by: Drakenocas on Mon, 07 September 2020, 22:27:33
How do I get this? Im new to the Mech keyboard scene, this would be my first board :)
Who's going to tell him?
This is not a good sign...
Ok nevermind, just read through the post a bit. Hope to nab one at retail, thank you
Lolz I've had the store tab open for 2 weeks check various times a day. When they go, they'll in like 5 minutes, so be prepared. Welcome to the community.
Post by: Pach on Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:18:25
How do I get this? Im new to the Mech keyboard scene, this would be my first board :)
Who's going to tell him?
This is not a good sign...
Ok nevermind, just read through the post a bit. Hope to nab one at retail, thank you
Lolz I've had the store tab open for 2 weeks check various times a day. When they go, they'll in like 5 minutes, so be prepared. Welcome to the community.
Chill, it's not like they won't announce a date in advance and just have it in stock randomly. haha
Post by: Drakenocas on Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:20:23
How do I get this? Im new to the Mech keyboard scene, this would be my first board :)
Yeah, but I don't want to miss the announcement. It sometimes dates are given just a week in advance. It happens. They will go in 5 minutes though.
Who's going to tell him?
This is not a good sign...
Ok nevermind, just read through the post a bit. Hope to nab one at retail, thank you
Lolz I've had the store tab open for 2 weeks check various times a day. When they go, they'll in like 5 minutes, so be prepared. Welcome to the community.
Chill, it's not like they won't announce a date in advance and just have it in stock randomly. haha
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 08 September 2020, 18:57:33
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Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 08 September 2020, 23:59:03
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got'em.
FINALLY! I really NEED a blue one in my life. Typically not into blockers on 65s, so this styling is perfect for me. I'm assuming we can order additional accent pieces to mix and match them when the time comes?
Yes extras will be in stock as well, with a fast follow based on demand.
How do I get this? Im new to the Mech keyboard scene, this would be my first board :)
Who's going to tell him?
This is not a good sign...
Ok nevermind, just read through the post a bit. Hope to nab one at retail, thank you
Lolz I've had the store tab open for 2 weeks check various times a day. When they go, they'll in like 5 minutes, so be prepared. Welcome to the community.
We'll let you know ahead of time when we receive it. We will have to QC it!
Have prices been determined? On the board itself and extra such as the 4.5mm plates, ect.
Prices have not yet been publicly released, no. You can check the website (https://www.aeboards.com/constellation) for those details, and they'll surely be posted here when ready.
Not yet, it's dependent on factory shipment costs (everything went up due to covid) + import taxes. So once we receive, I will be able to price accordingly.
Noob question for you guys.
In the video, the gasket mounted method shows the gap between the top aluminum piece and the bottom aluminum piece when he compresses it to show the compression. ( @ 5:34)
Does that mean if mounted in gasket form, the keyboard will always have that gap when the build is completed?
It is not that rigid/stiff for it's intended build - which is poron strips on the bottom. You can DIY (and I encourage you to) with how you want to have your setup, using different materials and even trying top/bottom strips for 'full' isolation, just have to be within our tolerances. Oring feels a bit 'bouncier'.
I hope this isn't a dumb question but on the website it says it will be an in-stock board, does that mean it will be available year-round? Or available in batches year-round?
They will have a limited number of units available for purchase right away, unlike a typical GB where you place an order and wait months for the board.
People will have to wait - from announcement to being purchased, except you've not put money on the line :)
How do I get this? Im new to the Mech keyboard scene, this would be my first board :)
Who's going to tell him?
We'll do another run straight after if there's demand for it. We all like the model design and it's fairly unique and pretty dope, and I wanna make sure everyone can try to get one. We'll work out how that is possible once we've finish the first run and have gotten feedback.
Nice
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Yes.
Post by: CustomerSupport on Wed, 09 September 2020, 00:58:59
We'll do another run straight after if there's demand for it. We all like the model design and it's fairly unique and pretty dope, and I wanna make sure everyone can try to get one. We'll work out how that is possible once we've finish the first run and have gotten feedback.
Based on the feedback in this thread and how beautiful yet accessible the design is, I'm sure (and hope) there's adequate demand :)
Very much hope that it is within my price range so I can pick one of these up!
Post by: dRpkebs on Wed, 09 September 2020, 15:31:24
Will you be doing anything to try and combat bots?
Post by: baoduy23 on Sat, 12 September 2020, 01:18:06
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 15 September 2020, 22:08:53
Considering this thread has been read over 108,000+ times. I'd say there's more than adequate demand lol.
Will you be doing anything to try and combat bots?
Yes. we have manual payments on shopify so it's all reviewed. It will be limited one per person. We'll have multiple waves for releases too. And we'll have R2 fast follow straight after we have these sold.
Post by: dibstern on Wed, 16 September 2020, 03:49:40
Post by: CustomerSupport on Thu, 17 September 2020, 13:40:17
Considering this thread has been read over 108,000+ times. I'd say there's more than adequate demand lol.
Will you be doing anything to try and combat bots?
Yes. we have manual payments on shopify so it's all reviewed. It will be limited one per person. We'll have multiple waves for releases too. And we'll have R2 fast follow straight after we have these sold.
Love this. I wish this strategy was more viable for other vendors/designers/kit runners so everyone could get what they want.
Definitely lets me plan around getting in on this with some amount of certainty.
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 17 September 2020, 19:45:17
Considering this thread has been read over 108,000+ times. I'd say there's more than adequate demand lol.
Will you be doing anything to try and combat bots?
Yes. we have manual payments on shopify so it's all reviewed. It will be limited one per person. We'll have multiple waves for releases too. And we'll have R2 fast follow straight after we have these sold.
Love this. I wish this strategy was more viable for other vendors/designers/kit runners so everyone could get what they want.
Definitely lets me plan around getting in on this with some amount of certainty.
We are testing a few things. Jubi went up on the keyboard treehouse as a surprise flash sale, with some keyword stuff in there.
I think other vendors/designers/kit runners can do something but it requires effort and time, Cannonkeys did a pretty good one with stickers, lol. Some vendors might even like the quick sellout as it gives the board a "value", especially in the aftermarket. We personally aren't interested in seeing the aftermarket value, but the lack of aftermarket selling, as it shows people want to use/keep it. Previously there weren't many aegis/ext65 for sale, which makes us feel good inside about the stuff we're making.
Please dear god make enough of these. I want this so damn bad.
We are trying with what manpower and capital we have. It's not a GB, so it's kind of all my money and friends and family on the line. Moving forward I'll figure out ways to make this more streamlined, i'm always up for testing new methods.
Considering this thread has been read over 108,000+ times. I'd say there's more than adequate demand lol.
Will you be doing anything to try and combat bots?
Yeah it's been crzy - honestly didn't expect it. We released info on the board after the gsk00t since I thought the oring might be something people would enjoy. Since then, COVID and other delays, it's been unfortunate that they're not out yet. Usually I don't like to announce too early otherwise it feels like a group buy. Taekeyboards did an amazing video, honestly one of the best ones, I love his process and production values, and this might have made the board a bit more visible to the market.
We'll do another run straight after if there's demand for it. We all like the model design and it's fairly unique and pretty dope, and I wanna make sure everyone can try to get one. We'll work out how that is possible once we've finish the first run and have gotten feedback.
Based on the feedback in this thread and how beautiful yet accessible the design is, I'm sure (and hope) there's adequate demand :)
Very much hope that it is within my price range so I can pick one of these up!
We're hoping it will be. Looking at the extra surcharges these days, prices will be adjusted. I still think it's good value in any case, since you can do a bit of testing, and the knowledge of buying into an ecosystem that will continually get stronger.
We had this ecosystem idea after EXT65, I wanted more people to enjoy that layout but didn't want to run another one because we had constellations on our mind. We redid the pcb, added some features like Underglow and OLED, and then made an opensource case. This allowed far more accessibility (althought with a bit more hacking involved) for the board. I think it turned out well. Since then we've expanded the ext65 ecosystem with additional plate materials (POM for example), Cork ext65 dampeners etc.
If you're still reading this, then here's a small update.
It seems like they're finally being shipped to us in Australia. We'll pray to the custom overlords that it doesn't get more delayed. Once it reaches here, a good round of QC (and potential KBBQ with the AEboards team), and sending out the FNF units accordingly. After that, we'll annouce how we're gonna make selling boards fair again (MSBFA)
Have a good friday and weekend!
Post by: KurageOuji on Thu, 17 September 2020, 21:34:25
Post by: smoochara on Fri, 18 September 2020, 10:40:18
really love this board, if a hotswap version comes out i'll definitely join. since this lets you try so many mounting methods in one go, i really want to have a hotswap pcb to go with it so i can do even more testing with less work.
This makes sense, IMO would be awesome to have an addon option for hotswap, even if the design team prefers solder PCB, offering this will probably make it the end game kb all around and get more ppl talking about it.
Post by: dRpkebs on Fri, 18 September 2020, 10:54:17
really love this board, if a hotswap version comes out i'll definitely join. since this lets you try so many mounting methods in one go, i really want to have a hotswap pcb to go with it so i can do even more testing with less work.
This makes sense, IMO would be awesome to have an addon option for hotswap, even if the design team prefers solder PCB, offering this will probably make it the end game kb all around and get more ppl talking about it.
There's already more than enough people talking about this board. The demand and hype for it is real.
I really wish that wasn't the case because I NEED this one in my collection!
Post by: Cloods on Sat, 19 September 2020, 02:24:01
Post by: djroberts on Sun, 20 September 2020, 14:41:22
Post by: idealape on Mon, 21 September 2020, 05:06:47
Post by: japonxl on Thu, 24 September 2020, 01:13:42
Post by: ligongduck on Sun, 27 September 2020, 15:37:40
Post by: ookey on Sun, 27 September 2020, 16:58:18
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 27 September 2020, 20:00:32
I've also released files for our gasket sizing and feet, available here https://www.aeboards.com/resources
If you're designing something, we want to help you with our feet / gaskets.
Our storefront, Keyboard treehouse, also has a Aegis Navy Jubi vickrey going.
We've received PCBs for testing with our collaboration with Biso, the Kikuichimonji. Once constellation is done, we'll do another run of constellation as well as start on our production of the kikuichimonji.
This year is coming to an end, and since we ran this IC, a lot has happened in 2020. What a crazy year. We're hoping that we can finish off on a good note and look forward to our pipeline in 2021.
Post by: astudler on Mon, 28 September 2020, 04:57:34
Post by: mjohlnir09 on Mon, 28 September 2020, 11:21:18
Post by: eczactly on Mon, 28 September 2020, 12:17:54
I understood you had issues with Navy Blue Quality, is this still valid or am I wrong?
I believe you're wrong. I think the delay is because of the Grey color.
Post by: cannon-cat on Mon, 28 September 2020, 12:34:23
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 28 September 2020, 20:21:28
I understood you had issues with Navy Blue Quality, is this still valid or am I wrong?
No issues yet. Not sure where you heard this.
We have multiple shipments due to the amount ordered, most of the Dark Grays will be sent in the second batch. We will still have DG in the first shipment.
how can i get it? under keyboard treehouse linked to this thread :((
You can buy it when we list it on the shop
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 29 September 2020, 23:58:51
We'll be finalising pricing soon, so stay tuned.
Post by: SherlockBunny on Wed, 30 September 2020, 08:10:05
Would love to see a hotswap PCB option for this, that would tick all the boxes for me. Would this be a possibility? Amazing keyboard nonetheless!
Seconded. With hot-swap PCB I would buy this in a heartbeat. Love the design and the community aspect of this keyboard. I hope you do a round 2 sometime in the future (I'm guessing I won't be fast enough, considering the interest).
Post by: smoochara on Wed, 30 September 2020, 12:09:52
Would love to see a hotswap PCB option for this, that would tick all the boxes for me. Would this be a possibility? Amazing keyboard nonetheless!
Seconded. With hot-swap PCB I would buy this in a heartbeat. Love the design and the community aspect of this keyboard. I hope you do a round 2 sometime in the future (I'm guessing I won't be fast enough, considering the interest).
There’s a mill max option that would probably be more secure/durable, I am planning on going that route if I manage to get one of these.
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 01 October 2020, 20:40:34
Would love to see a hotswap PCB option for this, that would tick all the boxes for me. Would this be a possibility? Amazing keyboard nonetheless!
Seconded. With hot-swap PCB I would buy this in a heartbeat. Love the design and the community aspect of this keyboard. I hope you do a round 2 sometime in the future (I'm guessing I won't be fast enough, considering the interest).
We're exploring hotswaps and we are looking at doing our first hotswap board with the EXT65 pcb revision.
The problem with hotswap is that we would have to enforce choices like stepped or split backspace - luckily not the bottom row since this is fixed. The other challenge is making sure the pcb is locked securely into place, since our design isn't a tray mount - but this might be a minor issue and not a real world problem as it seems.
Since constellation will get another release and updates to the eco system, it will likely happen in the future. Otherwise you can get holtites (my preffered) or some millmaxs and chuck em in.
Post by: soloplayer on Thu, 01 October 2020, 20:54:52
Would love to see a hotswap PCB option for this, that would tick all the boxes for me. Would this be a possibility? Amazing keyboard nonetheless!
Seconded. With hot-swap PCB I would buy this in a heartbeat. Love the design and the community aspect of this keyboard. I hope you do a round 2 sometime in the future (I'm guessing I won't be fast enough, considering the interest).
We're exploring hotswaps and we are looking at doing our first hotswap board with the EXT65 pcb revision.
The problem with hotswap is that we would have to enforce choices like stepped or split backspace - luckily not the bottom row since this is fixed. The other challenge is making sure the pcb is locked securely into place, since our design isn't a tray mount - but this might be a minor issue and not a real world problem as it seems.
Since constellation will get another release and updates to the eco system, it will likely happen in the future. Otherwise you can get holtites (my preffered) or some millmaxs and chuck em in.
any revision toward those gasket strips (or the gasket sandwich method) in the next round Eric?
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 01 October 2020, 22:20:39
any revision toward those gasket strips (or the gasket sandwich method) in the next round Eric?
not sure what you mean here.
We have our standarised gaskets (https://www.aeboards.com/resources) available, we've tried a few different materials but in the works trying a new material. Shape won't change but probably will offer a few more materials.
Post by: soloplayer on Fri, 02 October 2020, 01:13:49
any revision toward those gasket strips (or the gasket sandwich method) in the next round Eric?
not sure what you mean here.
We have our standarised gaskets (https://www.aeboards.com/resources) available, we've tried a few different materials but in the works trying a new material. Shape won't change but probably will offer a few more materials.
i saw tae's vid and he said that half isolation was recommended and it was too tight for the full isolation. so i think there are some kind of faults about strip thickness or design 😅
correct me if i'm wrong, and this is still a must buy board for me tho
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 03 October 2020, 06:09:57
any revision toward those gasket strips (or the gasket sandwich method) in the next round Eric?
not sure what you mean here.
We have our standarised gaskets (https://www.aeboards.com/resources) available, we've tried a few different materials but in the works trying a new material. Shape won't change but probably will offer a few more materials.
i saw tae's vid and he said that half isolation was recommended and it was too tight for the full isolation. so i think there are some kind of faults about strip thickness or design 😅
correct me if i'm wrong, and this is still a must buy board for me tho
It's designed for gaskets on the bottom only. You can try it on top as well, it's up to you - you can explore and do what you want.
Post by: soloplayer on Sat, 03 October 2020, 08:47:43
last questions. is it possible to combine the oring and top isolation on this board? ne caution avail? 😅😅
Post by: thestateofmay on Sat, 03 October 2020, 14:25:26
Post by: mjohlnir09 on Sun, 04 October 2020, 10:06:21
I understood you had issues with Navy Blue Quality, is this still valid or am I wrong?
No issues yet. Not sure where you heard this.
We have multiple shipments due to the amount ordered, most of the Dark Grays will be sent in the second batch. We will still have DG in the first shipment.how can i get it? under keyboard treehouse linked to this thread :((
thx
You can buy it when we list it on the shop
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 04 October 2020, 22:38:10
wew so that's how it is. ty so much
last questions. is it possible to combine the oring and top isolation on this board? ne caution avail? 😅😅
Yes, YMMV though. It's not designed for that purpose but why not?!
Will there be an option to add on an extra PCB?
Right now, we have a handful of extras, we're gonna do another run of pcbs soon as well as new plates materials
----
We're waiting for some invoices from old mate customs and DHL, once we have that we can work out the finalised pricing.
We've QC'ed the boards we have on hand and waiting for second shipment soon.
Once FNF units are out, we'll have 50 for sale as in-stock, over several waves and timezones, including extra addons like accents, plates etc.
We mostly have BLACK and NAVY avail, with DARK GARYS coming in the second shipment.
You'll be seeing a bunch of photos and videos soon I suspect as our friends and family start receiving them.
Thanks for bearing with us!
Post by: thestateofmay on Mon, 05 October 2020, 00:40:40
wew so that's how it is. ty so much
last questions. is it possible to combine the oring and top isolation on this board? ne caution avail? 😅😅
Yes, YMMV though. It's not designed for that purpose but why not?!Will there be an option to add on an extra PCB?
Right now, we have a handful of extras, we're gonna do another run of pcbs soon as well as new plates materials
----
We're waiting for some invoices from old mate customs and DHL, once we have that we can work out the finalised pricing.
We've QC'ed the boards we have on hand and waiting for second shipment soon.
Once FNF units are out, we'll have 50 for sale as in-stock, over several waves and timezones, including extra addons like accents, plates etc.
We mostly have BLACK and NAVY avail, with DARK GARYS coming in the second shipment.
You'll be seeing a bunch of photos and videos soon I suspect as our friends and family start receiving them.
Thanks for bearing with us!
50 in stock!???! T_T??? I'm going to poop my pants if I don't get this board I've waited literally 5 month smh. I'm working with an old HHKB right now I think it's so old it might explode any chance you can make an exception for a future covid patient?
Post by: keyboardkrill on Mon, 05 October 2020, 00:52:26
wew so that's how it is. ty so much
last questions. is it possible to combine the oring and top isolation on this board? ne caution avail? 😅😅
Yes, YMMV though. It's not designed for that purpose but why not?!Will there be an option to add on an extra PCB?
Right now, we have a handful of extras, we're gonna do another run of pcbs soon as well as new plates materials
----
We're waiting for some invoices from old mate customs and DHL, once we have that we can work out the finalised pricing.
We've QC'ed the boards we have on hand and waiting for second shipment soon.
Once FNF units are out, we'll have 50 for sale as in-stock, over several waves and timezones, including extra addons like accents, plates etc.
We mostly have BLACK and NAVY avail, with DARK GARYS coming in the second shipment.
You'll be seeing a bunch of photos and videos soon I suspect as our friends and family start receiving them.
Thanks for bearing with us!
50 in stock!???! T_T??? I'm going to poop my pants if I don't get this board I've waited literally 5 month smh. I'm working with an old HHKB right now I think it's so old it might explode any chance you can make an exception for a future covid patient?
5 months? the IC is 10 months old. just calm down, try to get the board like the rest of us, and maybe start carrying around some flushable wipes ;)
Post by: thestateofmay on Mon, 05 October 2020, 01:25:37
wew so that's how it is. ty so much
last questions. is it possible to combine the oring and top isolation on this board? ne caution avail? 😅😅
Yes, YMMV though. It's not designed for that purpose but why not?!Will there be an option to add on an extra PCB?
Right now, we have a handful of extras, we're gonna do another run of pcbs soon as well as new plates materials
----
We're waiting for some invoices from old mate customs and DHL, once we have that we can work out the finalised pricing.
We've QC'ed the boards we have on hand and waiting for second shipment soon.
Once FNF units are out, we'll have 50 for sale as in-stock, over several waves and timezones, including extra addons like accents, plates etc.
We mostly have BLACK and NAVY avail, with DARK GARYS coming in the second shipment.
You'll be seeing a bunch of photos and videos soon I suspect as our friends and family start receiving them.
Thanks for bearing with us!
50 in stock!???! T_T??? I'm going to poop my pants if I don't get this board I've waited literally 5 month smh. I'm working with an old HHKB right now I think it's so old it might explode any chance you can make an exception for a future covid patient?
5 months? the IC is 10 months old. just calm down, try to get the board like the rest of us, and maybe start carrying around some flushable wipes ;)
Absolutely not I will poop!
Post by: x9Memoriez on Mon, 05 October 2020, 01:26:53
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 05 October 2020, 03:32:41
wew so that's how it is. ty so much
last questions. is it possible to combine the oring and top isolation on this board? ne caution avail? 😅😅
Yes, YMMV though. It's not designed for that purpose but why not?!Will there be an option to add on an extra PCB?
Right now, we have a handful of extras, we're gonna do another run of pcbs soon as well as new plates materials
----
We're waiting for some invoices from old mate customs and DHL, once we have that we can work out the finalised pricing.
We've QC'ed the boards we have on hand and waiting for second shipment soon.
Once FNF units are out, we'll have 50 for sale as in-stock, over several waves and timezones, including extra addons like accents, plates etc.
We mostly have BLACK and NAVY avail, with DARK GARYS coming in the second shipment.
You'll be seeing a bunch of photos and videos soon I suspect as our friends and family start receiving them.
Thanks for bearing with us!
50 in stock!???! T_T??? I'm going to poop my pants if I don't get this board I've waited literally 5 month smh. I'm working with an old HHKB right now I think it's so old it might explode any chance you can make an exception for a future covid patient?
We have another 100 coming in another shipment. What we accepted was around 360kg and we didn't have space to take on more.
We're running straight outta some guys bedroom, we don't have a warehouse etc etc. It's a hobby level design, so everything we do is in the best intent for all of you, but also what makes sense for us. We didn't really do a GB and have it in stock, which I think is a better model but also has it's pros and cons.
Once we sell the 200 units we'll be putting another order through, and hopefully turn around time won't be 8 months this time!
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 05 October 2020, 03:34:40
wew so that's how it is. ty so much
last questions. is it possible to combine the oring and top isolation on this board? ne caution avail? 😅😅
Yes, YMMV though. It's not designed for that purpose but why not?!Will there be an option to add on an extra PCB?
Right now, we have a handful of extras, we're gonna do another run of pcbs soon as well as new plates materials
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We're waiting for some invoices from old mate customs and DHL, once we have that we can work out the finalised pricing.
We've QC'ed the boards we have on hand and waiting for second shipment soon.
Once FNF units are out, we'll have 50 for sale as in-stock, over several waves and timezones, including extra addons like accents, plates etc.
We mostly have BLACK and NAVY avail, with DARK GARYS coming in the second shipment.
You'll be seeing a bunch of photos and videos soon I suspect as our friends and family start receiving them.
Thanks for bearing with us!
50 in stock!???! T_T??? I'm going to poop my pants if I don't get this board I've waited literally 5 month smh. I'm working with an old HHKB right now I think it's so old it might explode any chance you can make an exception for a future covid patient?
5 months? the IC is 10 months old. just calm down, try to get the board like the rest of us, and maybe start carrying around some flushable wipes ;)
Flushable wipes are bad for the environment. Don't use these! haha.
We'll have a limit of one per customer, so at least there's 200 people getting boards. This hobby exploaded since we ran the IC, and we haven't got the capability to support these numbers yet.
Post by: cabeggar on Mon, 05 October 2020, 11:39:28
Nice keyboard
Is this Naevy blue or black? Asking as I thought the black one has red strip around it.
Post by: aadk5 on Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:48:01
Nice keyboard
Is this Naevy blue or black? Asking as I thought the black one has red strip around it.
They've already said the accent pieces are interchangeable so you can combine different colors
Post by: shxWN on Mon, 05 October 2020, 13:14:42
Post by: x9Memoriez on Mon, 05 October 2020, 17:03:26
Nice keyboard
Is this Naevy blue or black? Asking as I thought the black one has red strip around it.
All constellation stock kits come with brass accents, regardless of colour. The one i have is a black unit :)
Post by: cabeggar on Tue, 06 October 2020, 14:00:45
Nice keyboard
Is this Naevy blue or black? Asking as I thought the black one has red strip around it.
All constellation stock kits come with brass accents, regardless of colour. The one i have is a black unit :)
Thanks! Does that mean red accent won't come in as stock and will be offered later as extra? I think I saw the black kit with red accent in TaeKeyboard's video and that looks sick.
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 08 October 2020, 21:00:23
Nice keyboard
Is this Naevy blue or black? Asking as I thought the black one has red strip around it.
All constellation stock kits come with brass accents, regardless of colour. The one i have is a black unit :)
Thanks! Does that mean red accent won't come in as stock and will be offered later as extra? I think I saw the black kit with red accent in TaeKeyboard's video and that looks sick.
Accents will be instock as well, avail in red, dark gray and black.
Pricing will be announced soon, we are almost finished with sending out all the FNF units.
Post by: treeleaf64 on Thu, 08 October 2020, 21:06:12
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 13 October 2020, 03:30:10
Update: FNF Units and EA slots are 95.495837% done, packed, just waiting for shipment to pickup. There's gonna be an annoucement on keyboard treehouse, as well as the discord, regarding pricing and how to get it. We'll be launching with another favourite keyboard of mine on the keyboard treehouse, which I'm excited to share more information later on. There's going to be around 40 constellations for public waves. If you don't want to miss out on the latest news, make sure you join the discord at keyboardtreehouse.com/discord - we're friendly!
We're still expecting another shipment of keyboards (they're ready to go) - which means that the next wave will be again QC'd but this time ALL units will be for the public. This means there will be an additional 100 constellations for the public.
We still have a bunch of addons, like accents and thick plates in stock. We've made another order of PCBS, and I'm putting a new one in for new plates. I'm planning to run:
1.5mm ALU plate
1.5mm POM plate
4.5mm Brass plate extras
4.5mm Poly plate extras
Also looking into FR4 plates if there's demand.
I've really enjoyed our FNF feedback with this board - I think it will definitely stay in your collection instead of being resold. We'll try everything we possibly can to keep this board in front of people's desks, and not being flipped. This board definitely deserves to be built and used. You'll be seeing more streamers making this board.
Don't feel bad if you miss out on constellation this run. We'll fast follow with another huge order, and keep on making more as long as you all love it. Just like our EXT65 ecosystem, we've keep supporting it with new PCB designs, opensourcing cases, and allowing new makers make stuff. We'll keep supporting constellation and adding even more addons, new accent colours, plate materials, gasket materials, and so on.
Thanks for the support!
Post by: MABC01 on Tue, 13 October 2020, 03:51:36
Nice! we CANT buy it, BUT they get it for FREE!
Always thinking about the costumers:(
Post by: aadk5 on Tue, 13 October 2020, 08:47:00
-- You'll be seeing more streamers making this board---
Nice! we CANT buy it, BUT they get it for FREE!
Always thinking about the costumers:(
Just because they have it, doesn't mean they got it for free. They just got first bids to be able to buy it
Post by: DeepKeys on Tue, 13 October 2020, 08:57:12
First of all, very nice keyboard! I am new to the mechanical keyboard scene and was wondering if there is a way to get notified when this becomes available. Amazing job on the keyboard! :thumb:
EDIT: nevermind. Discord Server is the answer
Post by: cong314159 on Tue, 13 October 2020, 13:37:12
-- You'll be seeing more streamers making this board---
Nice! we CANT buy it, BUT they get it for FREE!
Always thinking about the costumers:(
Just because they have it, doesn't mean they got it for free. They just got first bids to be able to buy it
Cmon, be realistic, they are not paying for it.
Post by: dRpkebs on Tue, 13 October 2020, 13:46:18
Don't feel bad if you miss out on constellation this run. We'll fast follow with another huge order, and keep on making more as long as you all love it.
THIS is how you do it. Wish this were true for all keyboard makers so anyone who actually wants one gets one.
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 13 October 2020, 20:07:33
-- You'll be seeing more streamers making this board---
Nice! we CANT buy it, BUT they get it for FREE!
Always thinking about the costumers:(
Just because they have it, doesn't mean they got it for free. They just got first bids to be able to buy it
Cmon, be realistic, they are not paying for it.
Gasp/apiary was part of fnf and she paid for hers like all our fnf. ZT boards was a trade between AEboards as I like to keep each keyboard we have collaborated with. Qw3 will be lent one of my personal boards, mostly for creating dope content for him. Other fnf people have sent theirs to other streamers directly, like lightning and bueno.
No boards were given free, I don’t operate on that model because I’m prepaying out of pocket to get these made. Please don’t assume how we operate or do things, and I’m usually transparent on how we do things.
Post by: oziii on Tue, 13 October 2020, 20:55:46
-- You'll be seeing more streamers making this board---
Nice! we CANT buy it, BUT they get it for FREE!
Always thinking about the costumers:(
Just because they have it, doesn't mean they got it for free. They just got first bids to be able to buy it
Cmon, be realistic, they are not paying for it.
Gasp/apiary was part of fnf and she paid for hers like all our fnf. ZT boards was a trade between AEboards as I like to keep each keyboard we have collaborated with. Qw3 will be lent one of my personal boards, mostly for creating dope content for him. Other fnf people have sent theirs to other streamers directly, like lightning and bueno.
No boards were given free, I don’t operate on that model because I’m prepaying out of pocket to get these made. Please don’t assume how we operate or do things, and I’m usually transparent on how we do things.
Love the transparency on this. As someone who is often sent stuff to review I'm amazed how many people assume you get to keep it for free. While it does occasionally happen the vast majority of stuff I've been sent to review has to be sent back or passed on to the next reviewer.
Post by: KeebRealtor on Wed, 14 October 2020, 01:32:55
-- You'll be seeing more streamers making this board---
Nice! we CANT buy it, BUT they get it for FREE!
Always thinking about the costumers:(
Just because they have it, doesn't mean they got it for free. They just got first bids to be able to buy it
Cmon, be realistic, they are not paying for it.
Gasp/apiary was part of fnf and she paid for hers like all our fnf. ZT boards was a trade between AEboards as I like to keep each keyboard we have collaborated with. Qw3 will be lent one of my personal boards, mostly for creating dope content for him. Other fnf people have sent theirs to other streamers directly, like lightning and bueno.
No boards were given free, I don’t operate on that model because I’m prepaying out of pocket to get these made. Please don’t assume how we operate or do things, and I’m usually transparent on how we do things.
^^^
All Truth here, I got lucky in one of the Vickery Auction, was able to secure one, (priced higher than the regular drop) and sent my board in to get commissioned build by Bueno.
What Aeryxz is stating is true. He doesn't give discounts, hook ups, freebies. Don't assume things, if anything, just ask for clarification.
Much love,
KR
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 15 October 2020, 01:51:47
Post by: mudcakehoney on Thu, 15 October 2020, 18:40:06
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Post by: aadk5 on Thu, 15 October 2020, 19:38:31
This board is stunning!Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709294597431361597/766253629702406164/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709294597431361597/766253630453448704/image1.jpg)
Damn, you didn't have to flex on us like that lol. Great looking build! Really want a navy with red accents for mine
Post by: ligongduck on Fri, 16 October 2020, 11:40:08
Post by: cwestwood on Sat, 17 October 2020, 08:02:24
I understand how unique this board is but the keycult lvl pricing is just killing me.
All the best to you guys, the keyboard looks amazing.
Post by: Lyle88 on Sat, 17 October 2020, 08:19:50
Damn i was so exited for this board but the pricetag... 500 was already pushing it but 600 is too much imo.Is that 600usd or aud?
I understand how unique this board is but the keycult lvl pricing is just killing me.
All the best to you guys, the keyboard looks amazing.
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Post by: aadk5 on Sat, 17 October 2020, 11:18:04
Damn i was so exited for this board but the pricetag... 500 was already pushing it but 600 is too much imo.Is that 600usd or aud?
I understand how unique this board is but the keycult lvl pricing is just killing me.
All the best to you guys, the keyboard looks amazing.
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It's USD. Keep in mind that this is an in stock item. You buy it, and they will ship it to you as soon as possible. They had to front all the costs initially, which will always mean a slightly higher price
Post by: etong415 on Sat, 17 October 2020, 12:30:07
Also blame the FNF that tried to flip their boards lolDamn i was so exited for this board but the pricetag... 500 was already pushing it but 600 is too much imo.Is that 600usd or aud?
I understand how unique this board is but the keycult lvl pricing is just killing me.
All the best to you guys, the keyboard looks amazing.
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It's USD. Keep in mind that this is an in stock item. You buy it, and they will ship it to you as soon as possible. They had to front all the costs initially, which will always mean a slightly higher price
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Post by: dak148 on Sat, 17 October 2020, 14:14:04
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 17 October 2020, 16:17:54
Board looks amazing but for 600 I'm out. If the PCB was hotswap I would be more tempted so I could try all the different mounting styles with different switches. It would be an amazing tester board with all the mounting styles and plates. Truly endgame.Just use mill max sockets.
Post by: aadk5 on Sat, 17 October 2020, 17:07:49
Also blame the FNF that tried to flip their boards lol
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Not sure if I read their posts on discord correctly, but I don't think the flipped price raised the retail price did it? I think they finally released what the retail price was to avoid people from flipping it with astronomical figures since there wasn't a set price on it yet. I may be completely wrong though, so let me know otherwise
Post by: CustomerSupport on Sun, 18 October 2020, 02:28:39
Also blame the FNF that tried to flip their boards lol
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Not sure if I read their posts on discord correctly, but I don't think the flipped price raised the retail price did it? I think they finally released what the retail price was to avoid people from flipping it with astronomical figures since there wasn't a set price on it yet. I may be completely wrong though, so let me know otherwise
This makes sense. I was also thinking that the flipper basically revealed at least the high end of the pricing spectrum, so from aeryxz's perspective, why keep the truth from people, who may see that flip price and think it's way way more expensive than actually is.
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 18 October 2020, 07:30:47
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 19 October 2020, 07:48:02
Also blame the FNF that tried to flip their boards lol
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Not sure if I read their posts on discord correctly, but I don't think the flipped price raised the retail price did it? I think they finally released what the retail price was to avoid people from flipping it with astronomical figures since there wasn't a set price on it yet. I may be completely wrong though, so let me know otherwise
No, It was already decided on price after being invoiced shipping and taxes.
I was just annoyed at the FNF unit being flipped. I like my boards to go to people who want to keep them, not just get flipped over and over like other maker's boards. We design for people, not wallets.
Post by: StingrayShuffle on Mon, 19 October 2020, 08:36:22
Post by: davisthegreat on Mon, 19 October 2020, 13:38:33
-- You'll be seeing more streamers making this board---
Nice! we CANT buy it, BUT they get it for FREE!
Always thinking about the costumers:(
Just because they have it, doesn't mean they got it for free. They just got first bids to be able to buy it
BOOP.
Cmon, be realistic, they are not paying for it.
Gasp/apiary was part of fnf and she paid for hers like all our fnf. ZT boards was a trade between AEboards as I like to keep each keyboard we have collaborated with. Qw3 will be lent one of my personal boards, mostly for creating dope content for him. Other fnf people have sent theirs to other streamers directly, like lightning and bueno.
No boards were given free, I don’t operate on that model because I’m prepaying out of pocket to get these made. Please don’t assume how we operate or do things, and I’m usually transparent on how we do things.
Post by: break on Fri, 23 October 2020, 09:13:30
Damn i was so exited for this board but the pricetag... 500 was already pushing it but 600 is too much imo.
I understand how unique this board is but the keycult lvl pricing is just killing me.
All the best to you guys, the keyboard looks amazing.
I would expect what folks think of as "Keycult-level pricing" to move upward in the coming months. My understanding is that the pandemic has increased manufacturing and shipping costs across the board.
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 23 October 2020, 10:05:38
Post by: nsyinc on Fri, 23 October 2020, 18:09:09
Also gotta factor in that this is an in-stock. All KC boards have been group buys so far. There's an increase in price associated with in stock and lask of investment risk. The big advantage is getting your board now, and not 6-9 months from now.
That's a bit of stretch to rationalize that in-stock should charge/cost more. There's a difference between in-stock and extras. In stock items does not cost a vendor any more money to manufacture. you can argue that they may need additional storage space but these in stock boards aren't made in huge quantities and sitting somewhere for months. so if you say that in stock should cost more, then what are you paying that extra $$$ for? interest on the money vendor fronted? time on the consumer side? how is a vendor to determine how much each person's time cost?
the notion that in stock should cost more is just a rationalization that doesn't make sense (to me). see for example, KDB in stock vs pre-order gb and in stock switches.
OTOH, vendors can monetize on extras because of the fear of scarcity or the fear that they will never be made again. but that's a completely different issue than in stock.
Post by: prizeS on Fri, 23 October 2020, 18:21:13
Also gotta factor in that this is an in-stock. All KC boards have been group buys so far. There's an increase in price associated with in stock and lask of investment risk. The big advantage is getting your board now, and not 6-9 months from now.
That's a bit of stretch to rationalize that in-stock should charge/cost more. There's a difference between in-stock and extras. In stock items does not cost a vendor any more money to manufacture. you can argue that they may need additional storage space but these in stock boards aren't made in huge quantities and sitting somewhere for months. so if you say that in stock should cost more, then what are you paying that extra $$$ for? interest on the money vendor fronted? time on the consumer side? how is a vendor to determine how much each person's time cost?
the notion that in stock should cost more is just a rationalization that doesn't make sense (to me). see for example, KDB in stock vs pre-order gb and in stock switches.
OTOH, vendors can monetize on extras because of the fear of scarcity or the fear that they will never be made again. but that's a completely different issue than in stock.
You're overlooking a major issue here, which is the risk factor for the vendor. as someone that's trying to run boards in-stock, the capital upfront, not including stuff like storage space, packaging, etc, is huge. And comparatively, the custom keyboard hobby is still relative young and small, which therefore brings with it and additional risk factor. What if your board doesn't sell? What if people don't like it? What if by the time my 500pcs of keyboard kits complete manufacturing, the whole market is convoluted with more supply of keyboards than demand? These are all inherent risks that selling in-stock carries, compared to a GB. In a GB, buyers pay before a large sunk cost has to be paid by the vendor. Therefore, the risk is on the buyers for the vendor to deliver. On the flip side, selling in-stock reverses this issue. The added cost can be attributed to the uncertainty I suppose, and the risk that a vendor carries by selling in-stock is significantly higher than a buyer joining a GB. It's tens of thousands of dollars on the line compared to a couple hundred for a buyer.
Additionally, high end custom keyboards are not cheap to manufacture and the profit margins simply aren't that high. You can't just say it doesn't cost the vendor any more money to manufacture when a board is sold in-stock. It's not incorrect, but there are a lot more indirect costs than say a GB would bring, and they aren't all monetary.
Post by: Capsy on Fri, 23 October 2020, 19:21:05
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Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 23 October 2020, 20:31:32
Also gotta factor in that this is an in-stock. All KC boards have been group buys so far. There's an increase in price associated with in stock and lask of investment risk. The big advantage is getting your board now, and not 6-9 months from now.
That's a bit of stretch to rationalize that in-stock should charge/cost more. There's a difference between in-stock and extras. In stock items does not cost a vendor any more money to manufacture. you can argue that they may need additional storage space but these in stock boards aren't made in huge quantities and sitting somewhere for months. so if you say that in stock should cost more, then what are you paying that extra $$$ for? interest on the money vendor fronted? time on the consumer side? how is a vendor to determine how much each person's time cost?
the notion that in stock should cost more is just a rationalization that doesn't make sense (to me). see for example, KDB in stock vs pre-order gb and in stock switches.
OTOH, vendors can monetize on extras because of the fear of scarcity or the fear that they will never be made again. but that's a completely different issue than in stock.
Oh sweet summer child.
Yeah let me compare a full time vendor based in china vs. a group of hobbyist doing this in their spare time. Like I've been saying, don't like the price, vote with your wallet, feel free to not buy it.
Post by: aadk5 on Fri, 23 October 2020, 20:41:25
Also gotta factor in that this is an in-stock. All KC boards have been group buys so far. There's an increase in price associated with in stock and lask of investment risk. The big advantage is getting your board now, and not 6-9 months from now.
That's a bit of stretch to rationalize that in-stock should charge/cost more. There's a difference between in-stock and extras. In stock items does not cost a vendor any more money to manufacture. you can argue that they may need additional storage space but these in stock boards aren't made in huge quantities and sitting somewhere for months. so if you say that in stock should cost more, then what are you paying that extra $$$ for? interest on the money vendor fronted? time on the consumer side? how is a vendor to determine how much each person's time cost?
the notion that in stock should cost more is just a rationalization that doesn't make sense (to me). see for example, KDB in stock vs pre-order gb and in stock switches.
OTOH, vendors can monetize on extras because of the fear of scarcity or the fear that they will never be made again. but that's a completely different issue than in stock.
In-stock items should definitely cost more if you're looking at it purely from a money point of view. The vendors will have to pay up front for all these boards; money that they could've been used for other investments or even to put in any accounts that will yield them money back. Even putting them in the market will give them some sort of return back. Charging you group buy pricing after they've paid for all the boards up front months before they can sell it publicly is not good business practice and the businesses would run out of business pretty quickly if they did that. That's a pretty simple idea and not even a "rationalization" as you call it
Post by: nsyinc on Sat, 24 October 2020, 17:41:05
Oh sweet summer child.
Yeah let me compare a full time vendor based in china vs. a group of hobbyist doing this in their spare time. Like I've been saying, don't like the price, vote with your wallet, feel free to not buy it.
don't need to get defensive and don't misconstrue my comment as applying directly to your board.
saw zee's comment and got me thinking that way of thinking is incorrect, IMO. it's also a bad seed to plant within the community.
i can understand what prizes and aadk is thinking. but to me, in stock vs gb is purely a choice of business model. to say one business model should be able to charge a premium doesn't make sense.
sorry if this is a bit off topic. still this is more of a theoretical discussion and not a discussion directly on your pricing or your board. your board. your price. just be comfortable with ppl discussion on everything. feel free to not read comments and discussions.
Post by: paperassgasket on Sat, 24 October 2020, 17:48:47
Oh sweet summer child.
Yeah let me compare a full time vendor based in china vs. a group of hobbyist doing this in their spare time. Like I've been saying, don't like the price, vote with your wallet, feel free to not buy it.
don't need to get defensive and don't misconstrue my comment as applying directly to your board.
saw zee's comment and got me thinking that way of thinking is incorrect, IMO. it's also a bad seed to plant within the community.
i can understand what prizes and aadk is thinking. but to me, in stock vs gb is purely a choice of business model. to say one business model should be able to charge a premium doesn't make sense.
sorry if this is a bit off topic. still this is more of a theoretical discussion and not a discussion directly on your pricing or your board. your board. your price. just be comfortable with ppl discussion on everything. feel free to not read comments and discussions.
If this isn't a discussion directed at this board, then maybe don't have it in a thread about this board?
If your choice of "business model" is putting up a quarter million dollars(or any amount really) of your own money, then I think you are obligated to charge "a premium."
Post by: KurageOuji on Sat, 24 October 2020, 17:52:23
Oh sweet summer child.
Yeah let me compare a full time vendor based in china vs. a group of hobbyist doing this in their spare time. Like I've been saying, don't like the price, vote with your wallet, feel free to not buy it.
don't need to get defensive and don't misconstrue my comment as applying directly to your board.
saw zee's comment and got me thinking that way of thinking is incorrect, IMO. it's also a bad seed to plant within the community.
i can understand what prizes and aadk is thinking. but to me, in stock vs gb is purely a choice of business model. to say one business model should be able to charge a premium doesn't make sense.
sorry if this is a bit off topic. still this is more of a theoretical discussion and not a discussion directly on your pricing or your board. your board. your price. just be comfortable with ppl discussion on everything. feel free to not read comments and discussions.
i dont understand why some runners feel like they need to use sarcasm against people's questions or comments.
Post by: Lyle88 on Sat, 24 October 2020, 22:57:33
They're probably getting fed up of people continuing to remark on the price. I have to agree that it's quite expensive, but not crazy. I don't know any other group in the hobby that have produced 100s of high end boards with their own money to be sold as in-stock (I've only been in the hobby a few years though, so may not know). That is reason enough I think to charge what they are.Oh sweet summer child.
Yeah let me compare a full time vendor based in china vs. a group of hobbyist doing this in their spare time. Like I've been saying, don't like the price, vote with your wallet, feel free to not buy it.
don't need to get defensive and don't misconstrue my comment as applying directly to your board.
saw zee's comment and got me thinking that way of thinking is incorrect, IMO. it's also a bad seed to plant within the community.
i can understand what prizes and aadk is thinking. but to me, in stock vs gb is purely a choice of business model. to say one business model should be able to charge a premium doesn't make sense.
sorry if this is a bit off topic. still this is more of a theoretical discussion and not a discussion directly on your pricing or your board. your board. your price. just be comfortable with ppl discussion on everything. feel free to not read comments and discussions.
i dont understand why some runners feel like they need to use sarcasm against people's questions or comments.
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Post by: etong415 on Sat, 24 October 2020, 23:08:40
There’s a ton more risk for the involved in an in-stock “business model” over a GB model. The seller has to purchase (everything related to materials, manufacturing, shipping and yields/QC) PRIOR to any outside capital being injected into the project.Oh sweet summer child.
Yeah let me compare a full time vendor based in china vs. a group of hobbyist doing this in their spare time. Like I've been saying, don't like the price, vote with your wallet, feel free to not buy it.
don't need to get defensive and don't misconstrue my comment as applying directly to your board.
saw zee's comment and got me thinking that way of thinking is incorrect, IMO. it's also a bad seed to plant within the community.
i can understand what prizes and aadk is thinking. but to me, in stock vs gb is purely a choice of business model. to say one business model should be able to charge a premium doesn't make sense.
sorry if this is a bit off topic. still this is more of a theoretical discussion and not a discussion directly on your pricing or your board. your board. your price. just be comfortable with ppl discussion on everything. feel free to not read comments and discussions.
It IS a difference in business model, like you said, but that choice carries its own risks, depending on which you choose. While AEBoards had successful releases in the past, they’re no RAMA (no offense intended, aeryxz), who have quite a wide-spreading brand. In this case, there’s no guarantee the seller would be able to sell all their boards and make their money back, hence the justification for a higher price to mitigate that risk.
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Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 25 October 2020, 08:15:29
Let's pretend risk isn't even considered at all, that's still capital that could have been used to purchase stock for immediate sale of other items. As a business that's potential profits lost during that wait time, capital that could have been invested elsewhere for a return. It's only fair that they get some greater return for investment. Without it there's really no incentive for in stock.
Personally I'm in favor of saving a little extra for an upcoming sale to accept zero risk and get the product immediately. I totally understand people who like saving a couple bucks and are willing to wait six months. I occasionally join these to support a designer. But there's no way they're equivalent in final sale value.
I mean you'd have to be a real fanboy if Apple came to you and we're like "you can pay us $1000 now and we'll use it to make your phone which we'll deliver 12 months from now, or you can just pay $1000 then", and you were like "sure, here yah go!". Heh
The reality, it is a GB discount. Not an in-stock markup.
Post by: break on Mon, 26 October 2020, 01:49:09
The reality, it is a GB discount. Not an in-stock markup.
Preach, man. Surprised to hear a keyboard hobbyist downplay the benefit paying 10-15% more money for a keyboard kit, then receiving it days later instead of months later. There are so many failed and postponed GBs we can compare to.
Post by: Lyle88 on Mon, 26 October 2020, 03:23:14
*cough cough* g60 *cough cough*The reality, it is a GB discount. Not an in-stock markup.
Preach, man. Surprised to hear a keyboard hobbyist downplay the benefit paying 10-15% more money for a keyboard kit, then receiving it days later instead of months later. There are so many failed and postponed GBs we can compare to.
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Post by: zepled112 on Tue, 27 October 2020, 11:56:42
*cough cough* g60 *cough cough*The reality, it is a GB discount. Not an in-stock markup.
Preach, man. Surprised to hear a keyboard hobbyist downplay the benefit paying 10-15% more money for a keyboard kit, then receiving it days later instead of months later. There are so many failed and postponed GBs we can compare to.
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*cough cough* Lumina *cough cough*
Post by: idealape on Mon, 09 November 2020, 07:51:33
65% really isn't very handy for me when working in a terminal without home, end and pgup/pgdown keys.
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Post by: udller on Mon, 14 December 2020, 08:00:53
strayan designers is always better too. support your local .
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Post by: eczactly on Tue, 29 December 2020, 20:46:17
This looks perfect for me! Will there be a hot-swap PCB option?!
I don't believe there will be, but you can MilMax it. 7305 friendly.
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 02 January 2021, 17:01:55
We have the raffle running NOW.
Join our discord http://keyboardtreehouse.com/discord
Then the Koi https://discord.gg/ap6q3DUaDs
Then join the raffle https://www.koi-raffle.com/
You have 5 hours!
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