BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets

[sherryton]

http://instagram.com/p/abzaqsC-Im/

We are going to be offering the BSP PBT Dye Sublimation sets soon.

There will be 4 colors available.

Black
Blue
Green
Red

Our sets will have 85 keys.  We will be offering the spacebar in the same colorway as the white in about 2 months.  The cost of the spacebar will be very minimal. 

Our F and J keys are nippled.  We are offering a 1x Windows key.

The cost will be approximately $135.  Other people were able to offer it at a lower price because they did a group buy on it. 



The product, CKS-SHLIV-G81, was for us.  The SHLIV stands for my name, Sheraton Liv.  Do not let anyone fool you that this is their product.  I believe it was wrong that BSP allowed someone to order a small amount, because the MOQ is very high.  I had to order a high amount, and someone jumped on our MOQ somehow.  I have talked with them, and I believe they are going to cancel their order.

Why did I choose these colors?

Everyone loves the original black font set. 

I wanted to do the Olivetti more better this time.

Everyone wanted a Red Alert set in Cherry PBT (or I believe they would want it).

I thought it'd be fun to make a SoWaRe set with green legends!

[sherryton]

Oh yeah, I also asked them to put the Pause and Break key on the top of the key, but they did it kind of ugly.  I am sorry about that too.

The green did not come out as how we imagined it, but it is still nice.  It's more Olive.  I was hoping for the Green color in the RGB, but they had to contrast it correctly on the white and grey keycap.  It would have looked like a different green if they used the RGB green on those two keycaps.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Sherry, possible to set a few sets aside without any printing? Only interested in blanks.

[sherryton]

Sherry, possible to set a few sets aside without any printing? Only interested in blanks.

I did not order any of those, but I'm going to get them in soon. 

[Photekq]

This is awesome Sherry. I was waiting for you to stock BSP. I will definitely pick up a set when I have the money!

[sherryton]

This is awesome Sherry. I was waiting for you to stock BSP. I will definitely pick up a set when I have the money!

I was the first to stock BSP with the RGB sets already!

[Dianoda]

Fun, I ordered one of those BSP sets from who I assume is the other buyer.  Sherry, how soon will we be able to order the BSP sets from Originative?

[Photekq]

Do you think you'd be able to photograph this set next to your beige GMK set? I want to see the colour difference between ABS and PBT.

EDIT : I don't mean the entire set. Just one white ABS key next to a white PBT key and a beige ABS key next to a beige PBT key.

[AKIMbO]

1.5 mods with a 7x space bar....yes, please.

[calavera]

Still quite expensive considering its only 85 keys, not full 104/105. I would understand if the price was for a full set.

[mashby]

Sherry, possible to set a few sets aside without any printing? Only interested in blanks.

I did not order any of those, but I'm going to get them in soon.

I'd be interested in blanks as well. 

[eyesmiles]

Sherry, possible to set a few sets aside without any printing? Only interested in blanks.

I did not order any of those, but I'm going to get them in soon.

I'd be interested in blanks as well. 

I'm not sure if this has been addressed before but since there's the topic on blanks, would there be a possibility of black blanks Sherry? 1.5x mods / 7x in black blanks makes me feel all gitty.

[sherryton]

After we QC'd these keys, we have to return them for new keys.

They might be another week delayed.  I am sorry about that guys.

[The_Beast]

So this has 1.5 bottom mods, a 1x windows key and no spacebar? Could you put this set on one of the cap set checks (I suggested this a while ago, so people know exactly what they're getting)? Could these ship with the Dolch?

[sherryton]

So this has 1.5 bottom mods, a 1x windows key and no spacebar? Could you put this set on one of the cap set checks (I suggested this a while ago, so people know exactly what they're getting)? Could these ship with the Dolch?

Yeah, we just made our own keycap set check thingy.  I'll have to go laminate it tomorrow.  I totally forgot about this.

[Dianoda]

What profile is the bottom row?

[sherryton]

What profile is the bottom row?

What profile do you prefer?

[Dianoda]

What profile is the bottom row?

What profile do you prefer?

B profile!

That's what all my other caps/spacebars are...

[sherryton]

What profile is the bottom row?

What profile do you prefer?

B profile!

That's what all my other caps/spacebars are...

That's what has gone wrong.  If you guys like A profile, then maybe you guys can get it first.  We ordered it in B profile, and that's where it has gone wrong.

[Dianoda]

That's what has gone wrong.  If you guys like A profile, then maybe you guys can get it first.  We ordered it in B profile, and that's where it has gone wrong.

Gotcha.  Do you have pics of the green set?  I'm curious about how the color turned out...

[The_Beast]

So this has 1.5 bottom mods, a 1x windows key and no spacebar? Could you put this set on one of the cap set checks (I suggested this a while ago, so people know exactly what they're getting)? Could these ship with the Dolch?

Yeah, we just made our own keycap set check thingy.  I'll have to go laminate it tomorrow.  I totally forgot about this.

What about my other questions? Also, what is the most common cherry first row profile?

[sherryton]

That's what has gone wrong.  If you guys like A profile, then maybe you guys can get it first.  We ordered it in B profile, and that's where it has gone wrong.

Gotcha.  Do you have pics of the green set?  I'm curious about how the color turned out...

We were just photographing them, and we had to stop because of the QC during photographing.  I can send you a potato pic though (camera picture).

[sherryton]

Fixed that Tab for you guys!

If you guys noticed, the left Control is B profile while the other keys are A profile.

Only stepped caps lock is available.  Sorry to my winkey fans, but this one is for my winkeyless guys out there!

[Hades]

Everyone wanted a Red Alert set in Cherry PBT (or I believe they would want it).

You believed correctly; I want a BSP RA set.

[Photekq]

Do you think you'd be able to photograph this set next to your beige GMK set? I want to see the colour difference between ABS and PBT.

EDIT : I don't mean the entire set. Just one white ABS key next to a white PBT key and a beige ABS key next to a beige PBT key.

Any chance of this Sherry?

[sherryton]

Do you think you'd be able to photograph this set next to your beige GMK set? I want to see the colour difference between ABS and PBT.

EDIT : I don't mean the entire set. Just one white ABS key next to a white PBT key and a beige ABS key next to a beige PBT key.

Any chance of this Sherry?

Yeah, in the photo.  The Spacebar is a ABS key by GMK

[Photekq]

Yeah, in the photo.  The Spacebar is a ABS key by GMK

I missed that. Thanks. How about an ABS modifier vs PBT modifier?

[sherryton]

Of course!  I'll do that too, but just to let you know... The beige we chose for our ABS is a lot different than the dark grey chosen on the PBT.

[bazemk1979]

Sherry any plans for the 10keypad, maeby when you get the spacebars you can acquire the10 keypads, or is not worth the hustle due to high MOQ? I do love the fact that it has x1 Window key!!!

[The_Beast]

B profile for the win

Could these ship with the Dolch?

[sherryton]

Sherry any plans for the 10keypad, maeby when you get the spacebars you can acquire the10 keypads, or is not worth the hustle due to high MOQ? I do love the fact that it has x1 Window key!!!

I'm not sure if we can do the 10 key pad.  Maybe in the future, I will do BSP sets.  For now, these sets will remain as is.  Perhaps I can get someone to do a group buy for the number pad set, and I will buy the remaining sets.

B profile for the win

Could these ship with the Dolch?

I really hate that I cannot give these sets to you guys ahead of time, because they feel amazing.  I can ship these with the Dolch though.

[The_Beast]

Any chance of F and J nubs or without the little bump?

I'll let you know when you send an email about the Dolch sets

[sherryton]

Any chance of F and J nubs or without the little bump?

I'll let you know when you send an email about the Dolch sets

I am not exactly sure of what you mean.  You mean just a regular key?  I'll see what BSP has.  I think they do offer keys without the bump because it is dye subbed.  This might have to be within that group buy though.

Here's a little fact about BSP.  They are the original company who owned the tools from the start.  I believe Cherry ordered sets from them, and they requested their own font. 

A few months ago, I found the little BSP sign on the back of the Backspace key.  I cannot believe no one saw this before.   Soon after that, the Chinese found out about that little logo, and pictures of the logo on the back of the key started popping up.

As always, I did not tell anyone about it because I wanted to surprise you guys (again), but then everyone found out about it, and it was not a surprise anymore (again).

[The_Beast]

I'd prefer scoops, then blanks, and then what you show in the pictures


When I said nubs, I meant scoops. sorry

[bazemk1979]

Sherry any plans for the 10keypad, maeby when you get the spacebars you can acquire the10 keypads, or is not worth the hustle due to high MOQ? I do love the fact that it has x1 Window key!!!

I'm not sure if we can do the 10 key pad.  Maybe in the future, I will do BSP sets.  For now, these sets will remain as is.  Perhaps I can get someone to do a group buy for the number pad set, and I will buy the remaining sets.

B profile for the win

Could these ship with the Dolch?

I really hate that I cannot give these sets to you guys ahead of time, because they feel amazing.  I can ship these with the Dolch though.

thanks Sherry, would love to have full and complete set with space bar and 10 keypad and pair it with the RGB + Esc from the same brand Guess I will wait a lil bit longer for that one.

[sherryton]

Sherry any plans for the 10keypad, maeby when you get the spacebars you can acquire the10 keypads, or is not worth the hustle due to high MOQ? I do love the fact that it has x1 Window key!!!

I'm not sure if we can do the 10 key pad.  Maybe in the future, I will do BSP sets.  For now, these sets will remain as is.  Perhaps I can get someone to do a group buy for the number pad set, and I will buy the remaining sets.

B profile for the win

Could these ship with the Dolch?

I really hate that I cannot give these sets to you guys ahead of time, because they feel amazing.  I can ship these with the Dolch though.

thanks Sherry, would love to have full and complete set with space bar and 10 keypad and pair it with the RGB + Esc from the same brand Guess I will wait a lil bit longer for that one.

I'd really like to try to satisfy everyone, but it's just hard to with the huge MOQ.

I know there are a lot of ISO people, there's some that love the LED windows, the winkey guys, etc.

[sherryton]

Man, they feel so good with ergo clears...

[Elrick]

Man, they feel so good with ergo clears...

Okay, so where do we pay up for these babies?

[sleepy916]

The product, CKS-SHLIV-G81, was for us.  The SHLIV stands for my name, Sheraton Liv.  Do not let anyone fool you that this is their product.  I believe it was wrong that BSP allowed someone to order a small amount, because the MOQ is very high.  I had to order a high amount, and someone jumped on our MOQ somehow.  I have talked with them, and I believe they are going to cancel their order.

Are you talking about this thread? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43104.0

The same picture is in there so does that mean whoever bought those sets are going to get their order cancelled? This would be upsetting to say the least.

[rao2100]

Yup I would like to ship them together with my Dolch set.

Now, should I or should I now add the PBT RGB set?   

[Binge]

scoops please

[kaiserreich]

Wallethack at its best.
Cases GB, and now, lovely keycaps for sale directly.

Yay

[tsangan]

Wallethack at its best.
Cases GB, and now, lovely keycaps for sale directly.

Yay

Well I understand where you're coming from but from someone that drop thousands of dollars on his own to make it happen someone decided to just jump on the MOQ to get the same price is kinda of shady.

I am also pretty sure kboardvintage added on a cost of his own to make it worth his time, who knows maybe the price ends up being the same as that "groupbuy"

[squarebox]

Well I understand where you're coming from but from someone that drop thousands of dollars on his own to make it happen someone decided to just jump on the MOQ to get the same price is kinda of shady.

I am also pretty sure kboardvintage added on a cost of his own to make it worth his time, who knows maybe the price ends up being the same as that "groupbuy"

But you dont see Cherry, Dolch, Desko crying foul or send lawyer letter for using the same colours... Unless you've patented the colour combination, I dont see an problem.
"It's just business" I would say. You'll never know if GMK and others decide to jump on the mechanical keyboard trend bandwagon and set up a end-consumer department like QWERkeys.

[Latin00032]

I was really hoping you could make a dolch style set that was dye-sub pbt.

Does anyone else think this would be cool?

[tsangan]

Well I understand where you're coming from but from someone that drop thousands of dollars on his own to make it happen someone decided to just jump on the MOQ to get the same price is kinda of shady.

I am also pretty sure kboardvintage added on a cost of his own to make it worth his time, who knows maybe the price ends up being the same as that "groupbuy"

But you dont see Cherry, Dolch, Desko crying foul or send lawyer letter for using the same colours... Unless you've patented the colour combination, I dont see an problem.
"It's just business" I would say. You'll never know if GMK and others decide to jump on the mechanical keyboard trend bandwagon and set up a end-consumer department like QWERkeys.

Your two points has nothing to do with what I was trying to say...

The issue was the MOQ. Since I don't know the details my examples might be exaggerating.

If the MOQ is 100 sets per colour (400 sets total) to get that price, then that means Sherry dropped enough money to get that price for those colours, but kboardvintage having to only buy 30 sets total to get the same price how is that fair for Sherry?

Also as I said, I am pretty sure kboardvintage added on cost to his group buy so who knows maybe the price Sherry is selling it at is more or less the same (for reference the cost was 95,60 € = $127.60 USD)

I was really hoping you could make a dolch style set that was dye-sub pbt.

Does anyone else think this would be cool?

can't dyesub on a darker base colour

[Hades]

can't dyesub on a darker base colour

TIL

[Jocelyn]

I was really hoping you could make a dolch style set that was dye-sub pbt.

Does anyone else think this would be cool?

Gotta wait for PBT Double Shots

[sherryton]

I'll have these sold as I get some pictures.

I might sell the A profile first for people who wants them.

The price will be $130.

[quochung1989]

I'll have these sold as I get some pictures.

I might sell the A profile first for people who wants them.

The price will be $130.

When? I'm waiting info

[tsangan]

I'll have these sold as I get some pictures.

I might sell the A profile first for people who wants them.

The price will be $130.

So $2.40 cents more then that group buy, and lets also consider here that Sherry dropped thousands+++ of dollars to order this to make whatever profit hes making.

For the people in the US, this is even cheaper as this is local shipping, as for Asia maybe it's a tad more expensive? I'm not sure on the shipping cost in EU

EDIT: Actually it's probably even less as there's the PayPal currency conversion of the 95,60 € which they always take a cut

EDIT2: Oh and it comes with a GMK spacebar compared to no spacebar, I think with the PayPal conversion rate + the spacebar thing I'm pretty sure it's well more then $2.40

[kaiserreich]

Wallethack at its best.
Cases GB, and now, lovely keycaps for sale directly.

Yay

Well I understand where you're coming from but from someone that drop thousands of dollars on his own to make it happen someone decided to just jump on the MOQ to get the same price is kinda of shady.

I am also pretty sure kboardvintage added on a cost of his own to make it worth his time, who knows maybe the price ends up being the same as that "groupbuy"

I was wondering why you were saying that to me, then I realized you were quoting another guy
Indeed it is unfair to sheraton to have someone jump on his order.

I hope the conflict can be resolved amicably.
For what its worth, I ordered blanks from kbdvintage.
Since sheraton isn't offering those, is there a conflict in this sense?

[Latin00032]

I was really hoping you could make a dolch style set that was dye-sub pbt.

Does anyone else think this would be cool?

Gotta wait for PBT Double Shots

Are pbt double shots even possible?

[The_Beast]

I was really hoping you could make a dolch style set that was dye-sub pbt.

Does anyone else think this would be cool?

Gotta wait for PBT Double Shots

Are pbt double shots even possible?

Yes, but super expensive and the one DS PBT I had, the stem broke since PBT is so brittle

[squarebox]

Your two points has nothing to do with what I was trying to say...

The issue was the MOQ. Since I don't know the details my examples might be exaggerating.

If the MOQ is 100 sets per colour (400 sets total) to get that price, then that means Sherry dropped enough money to get that price for those colours, but kboardvintage having to only buy 30 sets total to get the same price how is that fair for Sherry?

Also as I said, I am pretty sure kboardvintage added on cost to his group buy so who knows maybe the price Sherry is selling it at is more or less the same (for reference the cost was 95,60 € = $127.60 USD)

You will be surprise how often such things happen. Companies wouldn't care as long they get paid. The only thing that matters is who will be the first sucker to pay the set up cost. If you've been in business for a long time. You will see worst things than this. Dont be surprise that kboardvintage would still get "your" keys regardless.

It's just typical (modern day)businesses where loyalty and protection counts nothing. As disgusting as it is, only money talks.

I'm not trying to say what Sherryton did is wrong but rather I'm trying to say is what they(manufacturer) did is a business norm these days.

[sleepy916]

I just hope the people who paid for sets already, myself included, don't get screwed.

[sherryton]

Beast, I have not forgotten about your sheet yet.

I just need to set up the photography again.  I'll use it to take pics of the sets.

[The_Beast]

Beast, I have not forgotten about your sheet yet.

I just need to set up the photography again.  I'll use it to take pics of the sets.

I like pictures just to visualize exactly what we're getting


Thanks!

[Rabbit]

I just hope the ones got in the GB will get the keycaps. whether from you or him.

[___q]

So, perhaps this is a silly question, but I've heard such great things about the cherry/BSP PBTs (and that red set looks quite nice), and I'm a little lost.

What are the differences between these and the thick imsto pbts? I understand that they're made by different companies, but how do they compare?

[kekstee]

Will there be a 1.25 mod 6.25 space option at some point in the future?

[Dianoda]

So, perhaps this is a silly question, but I've heard such great things about the cherry/BSP PBTs (and that red set looks quite nice), and I'm a little lost.

What are the differences between these and the thick imsto pbts? I understand that they're made by different companies, but how do they compare?

I'm expecting these to have slightly crisper legends and a truer white color for white keys.  Imsto's keys are an imatation, these are the real deal.  Also, mod sizes (ctrl/win/alt) of the BSP sets are the right size for customs and vintage keyboards while imsto's are sized for the layout of more modern boards (1.25x for imsto versus 1.5x/1x/1.5x for BSP).

[BlackDragonTribal]

So, perhaps this is a silly question, but I've heard such great things about the cherry/BSP PBTs (and that red set looks quite nice), and I'm a little lost.

What are the differences between these and the thick imsto pbts? I understand that they're made by different companies, but how do they compare?

I'm expecting these to have slightly crisper legends and a truer white color for white keys.  Imsto's keys are an imatation, these are the real deal.  Also, mod sizes (ctrl/win/alt) of the BSP sets are the right size for customs and vintage keyboards while imsto's are sized for the layout of more modern boards (1.25x for imsto versus 1.5x/1x/1.5x for BSP).

Thank you

[sherryton]

So, perhaps this is a silly question, but I've heard such great things about the cherry/BSP PBTs (and that red set looks quite nice), and I'm a little lost.

What are the differences between these and the thick imsto pbts? I understand that they're made by different companies, but how do they compare?

They're both kind of similar, but they are both a lot different as well.  The way the companies print the legends on the keycap is a lot different from one another.  The print on the BSP key is a lot more clear as compared to the imsto keys.  I'm sure the weight is a little different as well.  For some keys like the Shift, the imsto keys win in being thicker.  Also, Cherry PBT has been considered to many as really soft and smooth.  The imsto keys are not as smooth. 

I'm not sure why the legends are more clear on the BSP.  Maybe it's because they have the original file.  The print on the imsto keys are a lot thicker.  Also, the font is bigger.  I imagine on some keys that the BSP are around 10 while the imsto are 12 size.

Will there be a 1.25 mod 6.25 space option at some point in the future?

This will not be available for a long time.

[___q]

Interesting, thanks for the explanation!

I'm kind of interested in picking some up, but I'm already waiting on a dolch set, and already have more keycap sets than keyboards (and only one with 1.5x/1x/1.5x/7x)... we will see.

[Dubsgalore]

very awesome sherry
Hopefully i can pick up a red set eventually
first priority goes to your dolch set though!

[Halverson]

Sherry, pics yo!

Also, I have some pbt I may want to compare these to.....I can't imagine these being smoother than what I have been feeling

[sherryton]

DanGWanG helped with a blog post.

Here is his picture from his blog, http://dangwang.wordpress.com/.

http://i.imgur.com/lj8XCkN.jpg

People who are interested in it right now will have to message me or email (sheraton@originativeco.com) with the message title "A Profile BSP Dye Sublimation Set".

In the body, put the following information:

Name/Alias on forums
Paypal address/Amazon Payments address
Shipping address
Color of the sets you would like

At this time, we will only limit each set to 2 per person. 

[The_Beast]

I'm a bit dissapointed in the flaws that Dan listed:


    Print Screen and Pause/Break have different legends
    F5-F8 use white base
    F and J have nipples instead of scoops
    Tilde is also a different legend

[sherryton]

I'm a bit dissapointed in the flaws that Dan listed:


    Print Screen and Pause/Break have different legends
    F5-F8 use white base
    F and J have nipples instead of scoops
    Tilde is also a different legend

Our set strongly follows this set! http://i.imgur.com/zCv56MR.jpg

[rao2100]

Our set strongly follows this set! http://i.imgur.com/zCv56MR.jpg
[/quote]

What keyboard is that? Btw any RGB set to complement this set? Thanks.

[Elrick]

Our set strongly follows this set! http://i.imgur.com/zCv56MR.jpg

Damn Sherryton, it looks like I'll be paypalling you again for these babies.  Just let me know when and how much.

[rainb1ood]

Will there be preorders or will there be enough quantities that you can order these 3-5 days after release?

[sherryton]

Our set strongly follows this set! http://i.imgur.com/zCv56MR.jpg

What keyboard is that? Btw any RGB set to complement this set? Thanks.

The original RGB set has been available on our web-site.

https://www.originativeco.com/pbt-dye-sublimation-rgb-and-red-esc

I would not say absolute original as this set is B profile, while the original DESKO RGB is A profile.

[/quote]

That's one of the original Olivetti's, an Italian G80-3000.  You can tell that one is double shotted because of the F and J scoop, but they made a PBT Dye-Sublimation using the same font and colored keycaps.

Our set strongly follows this set! http://i.imgur.com/zCv56MR.jpg

Damn Sherryton, it looks like I'll be paypalling you again for these babies.  Just let me know when and how much.

Just send me a message or e-mail me, and I can send you an invoice.

Will there be preorders or will there be enough quantities that you can order these 3-5 days after release?

Will there be preorders or will there be enough quantities that you can order these 3-5 days after release?

No pre orders.  I ship it as we go.

[kboardvintage]

The product, CKS-SHLIV-G81, was for us.  The SHLIV stands for my name, Sheraton Liv.  Do not let anyone fool you that this is their product.  I believe it was wrong that BSP allowed someone to order a small amount, because the MOQ is very high.  I had to order a high amount, and someone jumped on our MOQ somehow.  I have talked with them, and I believe they are going to cancel their order.

Are you talking about this thread? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43104.0

The same picture is in there so does that mean whoever bought those sets are going to get their order cancelled? This would be upsetting to say the least.

Well it is definitely upsetting.

[tinlong117]

Our set strongly follows this set! http://i.imgur.com/zCv56MR.jpg

What keyboard is that? Btw any RGB set to complement this set? Thanks.


[/quote]

it's KBD 2812, A.K.A. G80/81-3011.

P.S. Sherry, Have you asked them why they don't have ISO molds?

[sherryton]

Our set strongly follows this set! http://i.imgur.com/zCv56MR.jpg

What keyboard is that? Btw any RGB set to complement this set? Thanks.

it's KBD 2812, A.K.A. G80/81-3011.

P.S. Sherry, Have you asked them why they don't have ISO molds?
[/quote]

I did not ask them why.  I was just told it was not available.

[kaiserreich]

Can you please tell me what keys come with the set other than the usual?
1x winkey?
Spacebar?
1.25x winkey?

[sherryton]

Can you please tell me what keys come with the set other than the usual?
1x winkey?
Spacebar?
1.25x winkey?

2 - 1x winkey.

There are no space bar and 1.25x winkey in the set.  BSP do not have the molds for those keys.

[Dianoda]

Can you please tell me what keys come with the set other than the usual?
1x winkey?
Spacebar?
1.25x winkey?

The sets look pretty much like this:



No spacebar is included, the F5-F8 keys are white (instead of beige like they would be on most 2 tone sets), and the print screen/sys req and pause/break keys have that line (although I don't think they are as thick as I made them in my mockup).

[sherryton]

Can you please tell me what keys come with the set other than the usual?
1x winkey?
Spacebar?
1.25x winkey?

The sets look pretty much like this:

Show Image

No spacebar is included, the F5-F8 keys are white (instead of beige like they would be on most 2 tone sets), and the print screen/sys req and pause/break keys have that line (although I don't think they are as thick as I made them in my mockup).

THANKS A LOT DIANODA! :)

The only thing that is different is the Windows legend.  It's a lot cuter than in the picture :D

Also, the caps lock is stepped.  The legend is 2 separate lines instead of 1 line.

[The_Beast]

Can you please tell me what keys come with the set other than the usual?
1x winkey?
Spacebar?
1.25x winkey?

The sets look pretty much like this:

Show Image

No spacebar is included, the F5-F8 keys are white (instead of beige like they would be on most 2 tone sets), and the print screen/sys req and pause/break keys have that line (although I don't think they are as thick as I made them in my mockup).

Looks great! I'm still on the fence about no scoops and the F5-F8. The no spacebar and the bars on the print screen and pause don't bug me as much anymore

[sherryton]

Can you please tell me what keys come with the set other than the usual?
1x winkey?
Spacebar?
1.25x winkey?

The sets look pretty much like this:

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No spacebar is included, the F5-F8 keys are white (instead of beige like they would be on most 2 tone sets), and the print screen/sys req and pause/break keys have that line (although I don't think they are as thick as I made them in my mockup).

Looks great! I'm still on the fence about no scoops and the F5-F8. The no spacebar and the bars on the print screen and pause don't bug me as much anymore

I talked about getting blanks for you.  It should be available soon.

I asked them about the F5-F8, and they said it would cost around $15-18 (for 4 keys).  I'm not sure if anyone is interested.  Let me know!

[Photekq]

I talked about getting blanks for you.  It should be available soon.

I asked them about the F5-F8, and they said it would cost around $15-18 (for 4 keys).  I'm not sure if anyone is interested.  Let me know!

I would probably be interested. How much do you expect the spacebar will cost?

[sherryton]

$5-10. 

[The_Beast]

Can you please tell me what keys come with the set other than the usual?
1x winkey?
Spacebar?
1.25x winkey?

The sets look pretty much like this:

Show Image

No spacebar is included, the F5-F8 keys are white (instead of beige like they would be on most 2 tone sets), and the print screen/sys req and pause/break keys have that line (although I don't think they are as thick as I made them in my mockup).

Looks great! I'm still on the fence about no scoops and the F5-F8. The no spacebar and the bars on the print screen and pause don't bug me as much anymore

I talked about getting blanks for you.  It should be available soon.

I asked them about the F5-F8, and they said it would cost around $15-18 (for 4 keys).  I'm not sure if anyone is interested.  Let me know!

Any news about scoops? Honestly, push for these, I know a lot of people are interested in them and it's a mold for SP that I think someone is trying to raise funds for.

[Dianoda]

Any news about scoops? Honestly, push for these, I know a lot of people are interested in them and it's a mold for SP that I think someone is trying to raise funds for.

BSP thick PBT dye-sub scoops would be awesome.

[Sifo]

I can't wait for blanks

[sherryton]

Can you please tell me what keys come with the set other than the usual?
1x winkey?
Spacebar?
1.25x winkey?

The sets look pretty much like this:

Show Image

No spacebar is included, the F5-F8 keys are white (instead of beige like they would be on most 2 tone sets), and the print screen/sys req and pause/break keys have that line (although I don't think they are as thick as I made them in my mockup).

Looks great! I'm still on the fence about no scoops and the F5-F8. The no spacebar and the bars on the print screen and pause don't bug me as much anymore

I talked about getting blanks for you.  It should be available soon.

I asked them about the F5-F8, and they said it would cost around $15-18 (for 4 keys).  I'm not sure if anyone is interested.  Let me know!

Any news about scoops? Honestly, push for these, I know a lot of people are interested in them and it's a mold for SP that I think someone is trying to raise funds for.

The molds are around $10k (I'm not sure why), but BSP are not interested in making them.  Would you not rather be interested in a PBT Spacebar? :D

[Photekq]

The molds are around $10k (I'm not sure why), but BSP are not interested in making them.  Would you not rather be interested in a PBT Spacebar?

Jesus christ..

[The_Beast]

Can you please tell me what keys come with the set other than the usual?
1x winkey?
Spacebar?
1.25x winkey?

The sets look pretty much like this:

Show Image

No spacebar is included, the F5-F8 keys are white (instead of beige like they would be on most 2 tone sets), and the print screen/sys req and pause/break keys have that line (although I don't think they are as thick as I made them in my mockup).

Looks great! I'm still on the fence about no scoops and the F5-F8. The no spacebar and the bars on the print screen and pause don't bug me as much anymore

I talked about getting blanks for you.  It should be available soon.

I asked them about the F5-F8, and they said it would cost around $15-18 (for 4 keys).  I'm not sure if anyone is interested.  Let me know!

Any news about scoops? Honestly, push for these, I know a lot of people are interested in them and it's a mold for SP that I think someone is trying to raise funds for.

The molds are around $10k (I'm not sure why), but BSP are not interested in making them.  Would you not rather be interested in a PBT Spacebar? :D

I personally don't care about a PBT spacebar, but I know a lot of people do (Ti spacebars for life)

[Photekq]

I would be extremely interested in a PBT spacebar that matches the colour of the alphas perfectly.

[Dianoda]

I personally don't care about a PBT spacebar, but I know a lot of people do (Ti spacebars for life)

y u no wood spacebar?

[SpAmRaY]

I personally don't care about a PBT spacebar, but I know a lot of people do (Ti spacebars for life)

y u no wood spacebar?

That might be better posted to The_Beast as a challenge!

[The_Beast]

I personally don't care about a PBT spacebar, but I know a lot of people do (Ti spacebars for life)

y u no wood spacebar?

I've thought about 1x caps before, but I deemed them too hard to make at the time. Now that I have a bit more experience in the shop, I think a spacebar might be doable

[Dianoda]

I personally don't care about a PBT spacebar, but I know a lot of people do (Ti spacebars for life)

y u no wood spacebar?

I've thought about 1x caps before, but I deemed them too hard to make at the time. Now that I have a bit more experience in the shop, I think a spacebar might be doable

Sounds like the perfect show piece for KeyCon...

[dorkvader]

I personally don't care about a PBT spacebar, but I know a lot of people do (Ti spacebars for life)

y u no wood spacebar?

I've thought about 1x caps before, but I deemed them too hard to make at the time. Now that I have a bit more experience in the shop, I think a spacebar might be doable

You want lignum vitae for the spacebar for higher density / strength.
I would buy one.

[guilleguillaume]

[...]
Here's a little fact about BSP.  They are the original company who owned the tools from the start.  I believe Cherry ordered sets from them, and they requested their own font. 
[...]

[blablablabla]

The molds are around $10k (I'm not sure why), but BSP are not interested in making them.  Would you not rather be interested in a PBT Spacebar?

If they don't have the scoop molds then couldn't do the Cherry PBT Dye Sub sets at all because I have an Olivetti Dye Sub ISO ES set with them and a ISO DE Dye Sub one also with them and every Cherry Dye Sub keyboard I've seen have those scoops in the F and J keys.

By the way I'm still shocked about what happened to Kboardvintage GB...you just made some people lose their opportuniy of getting those sets because you want to have monopoly over GMK and BSP sets. Not a good thing in my opinion.

[kaiserreich]

Can you please tell me what keys come with the set other than the usual?
1x winkey?
Spacebar?
1.25x winkey?

The sets look pretty much like this:

Show Image

No spacebar is included, the F5-F8 keys are white (instead of beige like they would be on most 2 tone sets), and the print screen/sys req and pause/break keys have that line (although I don't think they are as thick as I made them in my mockup).

Looks great! I'm still on the fence about no scoops and the F5-F8. The no spacebar and the bars on the print screen and pause don't bug me as much anymore

I talked about getting blanks for you.  It should be available soon.

I asked them about the F5-F8, and they said it would cost around $15-18 (for 4 keys).  I'm not sure if anyone is interested.  Let me know!

You should've just did the beige F5-F8 in the first place :(

I don't care about PBT spacebars. Just sell replacements in matching colors.

[sherryton]

[...]
Here's a little fact about BSP.  They are the original company who owned the tools from the start.  I believe Cherry ordered sets from them, and they requested their own font. 
[...]

[blablablabla]

The molds are around $10k (I'm not sure why), but BSP are not interested in making them.  Would you not rather be interested in a PBT Spacebar?

If they don't have the scoop molds then couldn't do the Cherry PBT Dye Sub sets at all because I have an Olivetti Dye Sub ISO ES set with them and a ISO DE Dye Sub one also with them and every Cherry Dye Sub keyboard I've seen have those scoops in the F and J keys.

By the way I'm still shocked about what happened to Kboardvintage GB...you just made some people lose their opportuniy of getting those sets because you want to have monopoly over GMK and BSP sets. Not a good thing in my opinion.

I do not want monopoly over GMK and BSP sets.  I just want to make sure the sets I ordered goes into my hands and not someone else's.  If someone offered you a MOQ, you paid for it, and then someone else got the same item at no moq, then would you not be mad as well?

[calavera]

From what I can tell it's really BSP's fault for allowing Kboardvintage to eat into sherryton's order in the first place. If you want someone to blame, blame BSP.

Also, whats the ETA on these again?

edit: got company name wrong. lol

[sherryton]

From what I can tell it's really BSP's fault for allowing Kboardvintage to eat into sherryton's order in the first place. If you want someone to blame, blame BSP.

Also, whats the ETA on these again?

edit: got company name wrong. lol

Thanks for understanding.  I saw that many people tried to do the samething with the RGB sets too, so I went to BSP with this.  I did not try to stop the group buy or anything.

The items are for sale right now.  I'm working with BSP on the B Profile keys though.

Edit: But you can order the BSP PBT sets right now.

[Latin00032]

From what I can tell it's really BSP's fault for allowing Kboardvintage to eat into sherryton's order in the first place. If you want someone to blame, blame BSP.

Also, whats the ETA on these again?

edit: got company name wrong. lol

Thanks for understanding.  I saw that many people tried to do the samething with the RGB sets too, so I went to BSP with this.  I did not try to stop the group buy or anything.

The items are for sale right now.  I'm working with BSP on the B Profile keys though.

Edit: But you can order the BSP PBT sets right now.

Where? From the website?

[Dianoda]

Send a PM to sherryton and you can place an order directly through him.  That's what I did, was able to pay via paypal, got my set last week, love it.

[Latin00032]

Looks nice.

I'd like it to come with the spacebar though.

I guess I should wait for when it comes with it.

It looks nice on your keyboard.

[sherryton]

Send a PM to sherryton and you can place an order directly through him.  That's what I did, was able to pay via paypal, got my set last week, love it.

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Nice setup!

[boost]

Fixed tab key looks good

[kaiserreich]

Will you offer gmk spacebars for sale?

I hope you can just bundle them together in the future. I think that not bundling them together is miscalculation.
Its a shame that we pay so much for a set of bsp dyesubs only to have to hunt for spacebars that has a matching profile and....less shine.

Please at least sample the colors before putting them up for sale. The last thing I want is a spacebar that has a different color. Since you are making money off this community, in an honest way, maybe you could let people judge the whatever you are sampling. Perhaps by contacting more prominent members of the community for opinions. Just a suggestion.

I do not mean to sound harsh, but from the way the first Gmk sets went for sale, you did not pay too much attention to detail. In a community that buys expensive keycaps just to make their keyboards look good/better, this is bad.

The TAB legend on the GMK set is an example. There are others too, but this is the most glaring one. I am glad it has been fixed. However, it could have been done immediately, the wrong legend in the purple GmK GB shows how fast GMK can fix their errors.

All that being said, it is great that you took so much risk, and paid so much money to put these sets up in the shelf. A GB might work, but the colorway options might have been limited, given the MOQ. Good job on this.

[sherryton]

Will you offer gmk spacebars for sale?

I hope you can just bundle them together in the future. I think that not bundling them together is miscalculation.
Its a shame that we pay so much for a set of bsp dyesubs only to have to hunt for spacebars that has a matching profile and....less shine.

Please at least sample the colors before putting them up for sale. The last thing I want is a spacebar that has a different color. Since you are making money off this community, in an honest way, maybe you could let people judge the whatever you are sampling. Perhaps by contacting more prominent members of the community for opinions. Just a suggestion.

I do not mean to sound harsh, but from the way the first Gmk sets went for sale, you did not pay too much attention to detail. In a community that buys expensive keycaps just to make their keyboards look good/better, this is bad.

The TAB legend on the GMK set is an example. There are others too, but this is the most glaring one. I am glad it has been fixed. However, it could have been done immediately, the wrong legend in the purple GmK GB shows how fast GMK can fix their errors.

All that being said, it is great that you took so much risk, and paid so much money to put these sets up in the shelf. A GB might work, but the colorway options might have been limited, given the MOQ. Good job on this.

I had sent the colors to GMK to make the matching space bar already.

It's really hard to work with these companies because making sample sets are very costly for them.

[bazemk1979]

Will you offer gmk spacebars for sale?

I hope you can just bundle them together in the future. I think that not bundling them together is miscalculation.
Its a shame that we pay so much for a set of bsp dyesubs only to have to hunt for spacebars that has a matching profile and....less shine.

Please at least sample the colors before putting them up for sale. The last thing I want is a spacebar that has a different color. Since you are making money off this community, in an honest way, maybe you could let people judge the whatever you are sampling. Perhaps by contacting more prominent members of the community for opinions. Just a suggestion.

I do not mean to sound harsh, but from the way the first Gmk sets went for sale, you did not pay too much attention to detail. In a community that buys expensive keycaps just to make their keyboards look good/better, this is bad.

The TAB legend on the GMK set is an example. There are others too, but this is the most glaring one. I am glad it has been fixed. However, it could have been done immediately, the wrong legend in the purple GmK GB shows how fast GMK can fix their errors.

All that being said, it is great that you took so much risk, and paid so much money to put these sets up in the shelf. A GB might work, but the colorway options might have been limited, given the MOQ. Good job on this.

I had sent the colors to GMK to make the matching space bar already.

It's really hard to work with these companies because making sample sets are very costly for them.

Sherry will the GMK space bars be PBT as I believe the original Cherry boards with PBT dyesub keys the space bars were made out of PBT. If BSP was making the PBT caps for the Cherry boards back then, then who made the x7 PBT space bars if BSP can't make them?

BTW please check your PM's Sherry, you got 2 messages from me I want to add one more sticker sheet and 65g springs.

[rao2100]

So from what I can gather the only difference between the A and B profiles are the
-Space bar row

Is this correct?

[quochung1989]

I need set full Cherry profile A, Sherryton. Waiting that 

[sherryton]

Will you offer gmk spacebars for sale?

I hope you can just bundle them together in the future. I think that not bundling them together is miscalculation.
Its a shame that we pay so much for a set of bsp dyesubs only to have to hunt for spacebars that has a matching profile and....less shine.

Please at least sample the colors before putting them up for sale. The last thing I want is a spacebar that has a different color. Since you are making money off this community, in an honest way, maybe you could let people judge the whatever you are sampling. Perhaps by contacting more prominent members of the community for opinions. Just a suggestion.

I do not mean to sound harsh, but from the way the first Gmk sets went for sale, you did not pay too much attention to detail. In a community that buys expensive keycaps just to make their keyboards look good/better, this is bad.

The TAB legend on the GMK set is an example. There are others too, but this is the most glaring one. I am glad it has been fixed. However, it could have been done immediately, the wrong legend in the purple GmK GB shows how fast GMK can fix their errors.

All that being said, it is great that you took so much risk, and paid so much money to put these sets up in the shelf. A GB might work, but the colorway options might have been limited, given the MOQ. Good job on this.

I had sent the colors to GMK to make the matching space bar already.

It's really hard to work with these companies because making sample sets are very costly for them.

Sherry will the GMK space bars be PBT as I believe the original Cherry boards with PBT dyesub keys the space bars were made out of PBT. If BSP was making the PBT caps for the Cherry boards back then, then who made the x7 PBT space bars if BSP can't make them?

BTW please check your PM's Sherry, you got 2 messages from me I want to add one more sticker sheet and 65g springs.

I am not sure who made the PBT Spacebar back then.  I have asked, but I got no answers.  The space bar will be in ABS.

So from what I can gather the only difference between the A and B profiles are the
-Space bar row

Is this correct?

They are in the same row, but the height is a little different from one another.

[bazemk1979]

Thanks for the answer, so how about checking my last messages that I sent to you and send me the invoice trough paypal.

[Photoelectric]

Has anyone gotten the green version and would be so kind to post some good photos, please?

[sherryton]

PHOTOS will be available tomorrow.  I swear.  We just took all the photos yesterday.

[quochung1989]

PHOTOS will be available tomorrow.  I swear.  We just took all the photos yesterday.

Good info, Thank you sherryton

[sherryton]

Here's a simple image,

[Photoelectric]

Mmmmm that's gorgeous!

[Dianoda]

Here's a simple image,

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Nice, looks pretty close to the triumph alder green.

Any news from BSP on getting B-profile replacement keys for the bottom row?  Or are these only going to be A-profile?

[bazemk1979]

Here's a simple image,

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looks good Sherry, will jump on one when the numberpad becomes available :)

[quochung1989]

I think that is A - profile

[Latin00032]

Looks nice. Are these going to be sold as a full key set with a space bar? When?

[sherryton]

They are already being sold as a tenkeyless set with A Profile and no space bar.

[Sai]

sherry, when are you selling the blank set ?

[sherryton]

sherry, when are you selling the blank set ?

Ordering them over the weekend.

[Sifo]

sherry, when are you selling the blank set ?

Ordering them over the weekend.

omgs

[calavera]

Will 1.5 mods and 7x spacebar be available in the future?

[reiuorw]

what about material of 7x spacebar in future?

I only saw ABS 7x spacebar.

but I hope it would be PBT too...

[Forever]

Still available now? I also want A-profile RGB keycaps

[mashby]

These sets look fantastic. The only thing holding me back is the lack of a spacebar and the lack of a 1.25 modifier for the Win/Cmd key.

Knowing that you're planning on adding a spacebar is there any way would might consider adding a blank 1.25 modifier as well?

Just a thought.

[Photekq]

These sets look fantastic. The only thing holding me back is the lack of a spacebar and the lack of a 1.5 modifier for the Win/Cmd key.

Knowing that you're planning on adding a spacebar is there any way would might consider adding a blank 1.5 modifier as well?

Just a thought.

Which keyboard needs a 1.5 win/cmd?

[mashby]

These sets look fantastic. The only thing holding me back is the lack of a spacebar and the lack of a 1.5 modifier for the Win/Cmd key.

Knowing that you're planning on adding a spacebar is there any way would might consider adding a blank 1.5 modifier as well?

Just a thought.

Which keyboard needs a 1.5 win/cmd?

Whoops, I meant 1.25, not 1.5. 

I've fixed it.

[esoomenona]

They don't offer any 1.25x mods, mashby.

[Dianoda]

These sets look fantastic. The only thing holding me back is the lack of a spacebar and the lack of a 1.5 modifier for the Win/Cmd key.

Knowing that you're planning on adding a spacebar is there any way would might consider adding a blank 1.5 modifier as well?

Just a thought.

Which keyboard needs a 1.5 win/cmd?

Whoops, I meant 1.25, not 1.5. 

I've fixed it.

BSP doesn't have a mold for 1.25x keys in A/B profile - only 1.5x and 1x.  The mods included w/ these sets are pretty much for vintage and customs - if you need 1.25x mods then you want one of imsto/IvanIvanovich cherry replica sets.

[mashby]

These sets look fantastic. The only thing holding me back is the lack of a spacebar and the lack of a 1.5 modifier for the Win/Cmd key.

Knowing that you're planning on adding a spacebar is there any way would might consider adding a blank 1.5 modifier as well?

Just a thought.

Which keyboard needs a 1.5 win/cmd?

Whoops, I meant 1.25, not 1.5. 

I've fixed it.

BSP doesn't have a mold for 1.25x keys in A/B profile - only 1.5x and 1x.  The mods included w/ these sets are pretty much for vintage and customs - if you need 1.25x mods then you want one of imsto/IvanIvanovich cherry replica sets.

Thank you for clearing this up for me. I wasn't aware of the limitations of BSP. Poop. I was really hoping to try a set of the BSP. Oh well, my wallet thanks you. 

[Photekq]

Thank you for clearing this up for me. I wasn't aware of the limitations of BSP. Poop. I was really hoping to try a set of the BSP. Oh well, my wallet thanks you. 

Switch to 1.5 mods on your GH60

[quochung1989]

I am expecting GB Spacebar PBT 7x. If you can, please open it )

[audukent]

I am expecting GB Spacebar PBT 7x. If you can, please open it )

yes, I've ordered a set and really hope to see this coming soon.

[The_Beast]

I am expecting GB Spacebar PBT 7x. If you can, please open it )

yes, I've ordered a set and really hope to see this coming soon.

I don't think GMK does PBT... and I'm pretty sure BSP doesn't either. So you'll have to settle for a GMK ABS spacebar...

[audukent]

I am expecting GB Spacebar PBT 7x. If you can, please open it )

yes, I've ordered a set and really hope to see this coming soon.

I don't think GMK does PBT... and I'm pretty sure BSP doesn't either. So you'll have to settle for a GMK ABS spacebar...

Ahhh... any idea where I could get one? SP huh?

[___q]

I am expecting GB Spacebar PBT 7x. If you can, please open it )

yes, I've ordered a set and really hope to see this coming soon.

I don't think GMK does PBT... and I'm pretty sure BSP doesn't either. So you'll have to settle for a GMK ABS spacebar...

Ahhh... any idea where I could get one? SP huh?

I'm using a SP spacebar (from a CCnG set, not sure exactly what SP color that is) with one of these pbt sets, and am pretty happy with it.

The color is close enough not to bother me (it's a bit brighter), and the profile matches the profile of the mods very well.

Of course, a lot of people don't like SP spacebars and claim they are "sharp" or whatever, but I have never felt that way.