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Offline PheonixStarr

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — (11/8) btw protos OTW
« Reply #150 on: Tue, 26 November 2019, 17:34:28 »
Skipping both Chimera and E8.5 for this. Hopefully I'll be able to cop one

Same -- in a fierce debate between this and J02. Chomping at the bit for protos. Pheonix, what are the odds there'll be a build stream?

Maybe! I'm thinking about it—personally, I don't feel like it's hype/interesting enough of a board to make it worth a stream. It's just a wacky layout with some basic gasketing.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — (11/8) btw protos OTW
« Reply #151 on: Tue, 26 November 2019, 17:43:47 »
Skipping both Chimera and E8.5 for this. Hopefully I'll be able to cop one

Same -- in a fierce debate between this and J02. Chomping at the bit for protos. Pheonix, what are the odds there'll be a build stream?

Maybe! I'm thinking about it—personally, I don't feel like it's hype/interesting enough of a board to make it worth a stream. It's just a wacky layout with some basic gasketing.

:shrug: oh how this hobby is spoiled now with all these fancy GBs and build streams
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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — (11/8) btw protos OTW
« Reply #152 on: Tue, 26 November 2019, 20:15:02 »
No stream, keep the hype low, we all get keebs :)

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — (11/8) btw protos OTW
« Reply #153 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 00:57:16 »
No stream, keep the hype low, we all get keebs :)
this.

don't hype this board too much since there are only very few boards available :D

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — (11/8) btw protos OTW
« Reply #154 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 22:01:31 »
don't hype this board too much since there are only very few boards available :D

naw, bro. Unlimited buy :P

also, nice oneplus 6t

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #155 on: Thu, 28 November 2019, 00:29:36 »
don't hype this board too much since there are only very few boards available :D

naw, bro. Unlimited buy

also, nice oneplus 6t
oh unlimited now?
I thought only 55 units.

But that's nice then

Edit: missed the update lol. Damn that prototype is fire!

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #156 on: Thu, 28 November 2019, 02:06:30 »
Prototypes look amazing AND unlimited quant. So many great drops firing at once and now I have to choose.  :eek:

OP, you may have answered this already, but do you have a rough estimate as to manu time on these?
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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #157 on: Thu, 28 November 2019, 06:51:42 »
So let’s get this straight...you currently have a significant amount of money ($14,000) held up from one semi-public/private group buy and you intend to open up an unlimited quantity group buy for another design before you resolve the issues from your other buy?

Smells like the second coming of Tesletron.
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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #158 on: Thu, 28 November 2019, 07:19:22 »
So let’s get this straight...you currently have a significant amount of money held up from one semi-public/private group buy and you intend to open up an unlimited quantity group buy for another design before you resolve the issues from your other buy?

Smells like the second coming of Tesletron.
Some would say this is an absolute triumph of keyboarding group buys.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #159 on: Thu, 28 November 2019, 07:29:13 »
can we buy the Wakizashi PCB's separate?

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #160 on: Thu, 28 November 2019, 12:48:32 »
So let’s get this straight...you currently have a significant amount of money ($14,000) held up from one semi-public/private group buy and you intend to open up an unlimited quantity group buy for another design before you resolve the issues from your other buy?

Smells like the second coming of Tesletron.

nah bro, they gotta take this gb money to fund the previous gb -- the forbidden gb tech

also nice pcb, where did you take it from?
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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #161 on: Fri, 29 November 2019, 08:52:08 »
So let’s get this straight...you currently have a significant amount of money ($14,000) held up from one semi-public/private group buy and you intend to open up an unlimited quantity group buy for another design before you resolve the issues from your other buy?

Smells like the second coming of Tesletron.

So let’s get this straight...you currently have a significant amount of money ($14,000) held up from one semi-public/private group buy and you intend to open up an unlimited quantity group buy for another design before you resolve the issues from your other buy?

Smells like the second coming of Tesletron.

nah bro, they gotta take this gb money to fund the previous gb -- the forbidden gb tech

also nice pcb, where did you take it from?

As the uninitiated one, I know about the hate for Tesletron already, but what's this new stuff here? I'm a fan of this board but now I wanna know what I might be involving myself with.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #162 on: Fri, 29 November 2019, 10:35:55 »
What’s this Kaylace Co. the OP Speak of

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #163 on: Fri, 29 November 2019, 11:05:16 »
The prototype looks really good and the board layout is superb.  Is there really no way for ISO on this?
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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #164 on: Fri, 29 November 2019, 14:07:26 »
So let’s get this straight...you currently have a significant amount of money ($14,000) held up from one semi-public/private group buy and you intend to open up an unlimited quantity group buy for another design before you resolve the issues from your other buy?

Smells like the second coming of Tesletron.

So let’s get this straight...you currently have a significant amount of money ($14,000) held up from one semi-public/private group buy and you intend to open up an unlimited quantity group buy for another design before you resolve the issues from your other buy?

Smells like the second coming of Tesletron.

nah bro, they gotta take this gb money to fund the previous gb -- the forbidden gb tech

also nice pcb, where did you take it from?

As the uninitiated one, I know about the hate for Tesletron already, but what's this new stuff here? I'm a fan of this board but now I wanna know what I might be involving myself with.

The $14k thing... basically what happened was that there was, not sure what to call it, maybe an unadvertised soft launch, of the website where some early orders of the Cygnus and a different board were allowed.  This was halted after a day, I believe the main reason was sales were higher than expected. It appears OP intended / expected just a couple of people to order and was not comfortable with too many orders.

Maybe a week later, the payment processing company (Square) locked and closed the account.  According to OP, the Square account was not new and was used before, however the guesses given were either the larger amount of money, or the fact that there were several international sales that may have set off red flags.  In any case, When this happens, Square locks the money for 90 days, no exceptions apparently, which would be February. OP has also stated that Square shuts off all customer service after locking the account, so there is no way to allow for refunds.

There are some Cygnus orders in there, however the vast majority of the funds are from the other board.

The payment processor was switched to a new one. OP has reported that they have discussed the business model with the new company before opening the account in the hopes to avoid the same problem.

Currently, it has been stated that previous Cygnus preorders are being honored despite not having access to funds (OP will front the cash until funds get released).

The other board is being delayed until the funds are released.

This is all according to what OP has said.  There are some risks here of course, so it's up to you to decide.
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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #165 on: Fri, 29 November 2019, 14:17:06 »
So let’s get this straight...you currently have a significant amount of money ($14,000) held up from one semi-public/private group buy and you intend to open up an unlimited quantity group buy for another design before you resolve the issues from your other buy?

Smells like the second coming of Tesletron.

So let’s get this straight...you currently have a significant amount of money ($14,000) held up from one semi-public/private group buy and you intend to open up an unlimited quantity group buy for another design before you resolve the issues from your other buy?

Smells like the second coming of Tesletron.

nah bro, they gotta take this gb money to fund the previous gb -- the forbidden gb tech

also nice pcb, where did you take it from?

As the uninitiated one, I know about the hate for Tesletron already, but what's this new stuff here? I'm a fan of this board but now I wanna know what I might be involving myself with.

The $14k thing... basically what happened was that there was, not sure what to call it, maybe an unadvertised soft launch, of her website where some early orders of the Cygnus and a different board were allowed.  This was halted after a day, I believe the main reason was sales were higher than expected. It appears OP intended / expected just a couple of people to order and was not comfortable with too many orders.

Maybe a week later, the payment processing company (Square) locked and closed the account.  According to OP, the Square account was not new and was used before, however the guesses given were either the larger amount of money, or the fact that there were several international sales that may have set off red flags.  In any case, When this happens, Square locks the money for 90 days, no exceptions apparently, which would be February. OP has also stated that Square shuts off all customer service after locking the account, so there is no way to allow for refunds.

There are some Cygnus orders in there, however the vast majority of the funds are from the other board.

The payment processor was switched to a new one. OP has reported that they have discussed the business model with the new company before opening the account in the hopes to avoid the same problem.

Currently, it has been stated that previous Cygnus preorders are being honored despite not having access to funds (OP will front the cash until funds get released).

The other board is being delayed until the funds are released.

This is all according to what OP has said.  There are some risks here of course, so it's up to you to decide.

Well, that is some awkward news to me. I am in the Lumina GB with Tesletron, and albeit that I am not particularly the most happy with it I do not want to have to be put into a similar situation like that. The problem is that both of the boards are really nice seeming to me and I wouldnt mind having either of them.

Definitely need to find more about this whole situation so that I can make a good decision and hopefully protect my ass in the end of this. Thanks for the clarification though!

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #166 on: Fri, 29 November 2019, 21:24:48 »
I had no idea Cygnus was opened for a private soft launch. I've been following this GB pretty darn close. How do some of this information gets passed me? Are there groups of people who are in a special discord I didn't know about?

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #167 on: Fri, 29 November 2019, 22:05:56 »
Really like the board but it looks like there's quite a gap on the left side.



Is this how it's going to be for the production boards?

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #168 on: Sat, 30 November 2019, 01:11:58 »
Really like the board but it looks like there's quite a gap on the left side.

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Is this how it's going to be for the production boards?

That issue was brought up as well in the Discord.  The official proto plates were taking awhile to ship, so they ordered plates separately but accidentally used a slightly smaller plate length. The official proto plates (and production plates) will reportedly fix that problem.

Also, since it's isolation mount, my understanding is that if you're not careful in mounting the board, you can get gaps if you put the plate in off center, but I don't think that's the problem here (or at least not the only problem).

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #169 on: Sat, 30 November 2019, 03:18:21 »
Really like the board but it looks like there's quite a gap on the left side.

The gaps were my mistake. The brass plates (and the Slate Gray prototype) encountered some issues during production and were delayed by the manufacturer. I decided to quickly cut up some POM plates for pictures, and accidentally used a 19.00mm spacing instead of the Cygnus' 19.05mm.
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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #170 on: Sat, 30 November 2019, 03:19:46 »
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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #171 on: Sat, 30 November 2019, 03:47:20 »
... if you're not careful in mounting the board, you can get gaps if you put the plate in off center ...

Yes, this is an inherent problem with some gasket boards. For Cygnus, I would heavily recommend using a couple keycaps to try and perfect the alignment, after which one would remove the caps, carefully turn the board over, and screw it in. This will all be addressed in an "unboxing & assembly" video produced by an associate of mine

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #172 on: Sat, 30 November 2019, 15:35:33 »
Is that supposed to be cygnus teal, because it looks more like a green.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #173 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 05:23:16 »
Never thought I'd go larger than a 60% (or a 65% at a push) again, but this is too hot to ignore. Love the proportions, the low angle (better for your wrists), and the uniqueness of the layout.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — Prototypes Unveiled.
« Reply #174 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 19:40:23 »
Is that supposed to be cygnus teal, because it looks more like a green.

It is admittedly closer to a mint green in the renders and a vibrant forest green in the prototypes; I've worked with the manufacturer on getting a tone closer to 351 C.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Details, Gray Prototype
« Reply #175 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 21:42:12 »
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I've decided upon Saturday, December 7th, 12:00 PM PST as the opening date of the group-buy. With a minimum of 50, it will remain open as an unlimited buy until January 7th (unless I hit some ridiculous number like 200 orders, but I highly doubt it'll get that far).
So is it unlimted or limited? Whats the minimum of 50?

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Details, Gray Prototype
« Reply #176 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 22:17:46 »
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I've decided upon Saturday, December 7th, 12:00 PM PST as the opening date of the group-buy. With a minimum of 50, it will remain open as an unlimited buy until January 7th (unless I hit some ridiculous number like 200 orders, but I highly doubt it'll get that far).
So is it unlimted or limited? Whats the minimum of 50?

It means they need at least 50 people to buy to have the group buy.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Details, Gray Prototype
« Reply #177 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 22:29:20 »
 It means they need at least 50 people to buy to have the group buy.
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Thank you! do you by chance know where i can find keylace co?

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Details, Gray Prototype
« Reply #178 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 22:51:27 »
It means they need at least 50 people to buy to have the group buy.
Thank you! do you by chance know where i can find keylace co?
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No idea but once they group buy starts i'm pretty sure he'll post the link.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Details, Gray Prototype
« Reply #179 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 23:48:38 »
That Nightingale Blue calls to me.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Details, Gray Prototype
« Reply #180 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 09:17:45 »
An embarassment of prototypes! Looking real good all-round.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Details, Gray Prototype
« Reply #181 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 03:47:34 »

Is the blue piece what is supposed to be the nightingale blue?

because the blue looks much more subtle in the renders.
The example piece is much more vibrant.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Details, Gray Prototype
« Reply #182 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 04:40:49 »
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Is the blue piece what is supposed to be the nightingale blue?

because the blue looks much more subtle in the renders.
The example piece is much more vibrant.

Hmm... now that I peer at it closely, you're right. The camera made the blue seem a little more saturated than in real life. I'll add a note to the IC—thanks for the catch!

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Sunday, 10 AM.
« Reply #183 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 11:10:22 »
The nightingale blue looks amazing.
Is there a pantone # for that specific color?

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Sunday, 10 AM.
« Reply #184 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 12:48:40 »
GB moved up one day now?

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Sunday, 10 AM.
« Reply #185 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 14:32:12 »
The nightingale blue looks amazing.
Is there a pantone # for that specific color?

Pantone 533 C.

GB moved up one day now?

Just a day.

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Sunday, 10 AM.
« Reply #186 on: Mon, 09 December 2019, 23:20:31 »
The nightingale blue looks amazing.
Is there a pantone # for that specific color?

Pantone 533 C.

GB moved up one day now?

Just a day.


Copying aegis navy as well. What is original with this gb?

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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Sunday, 10 AM.
« Reply #187 on: Mon, 09 December 2019, 23:36:35 »
Copying aegis navy as well. What is original with this gb?

UK-78 (from 2017) uses Pantone 533C.

GMK Nautilus (also from 2017) uses Pantone 533C.

AeBoards has aegis navy in 2018.

Cypher (from 2019) uses Pantone 533C. No one insinuated that that was copied. Wonder why?

So, who’s copying who? And why is Phoenix being piled on liked this? What is possibly different? What COULD it be? I wonder.
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Re: [IC] CYGNUS — GB Sunday, 10 AM.
« Reply #188 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 00:17:19 »
Copying aegis navy as well. What is original with this gb?

UK-78 (from 2017) uses Pantone 533C.

GMK Nautilus (also from 2017) uses Pantone 533C.

AeBoards has aegis navy in 2018.

Hmmm. Who copied who?

Copying aegis navy as well. What is original with this gb?

UK-78 (from 2017) uses Pantone 533C.

GMK Nautilus (also from 2017) uses Pantone 533C.

AeBoards has aegis navy in 2018.

Hmmm. Who copied who?

We prototyped the aegis in 2018. It included a long run of communication to get it right with the anno supplier. Having said that I've never seen the uk78, and comparing gmk cap colours to anno is a bit strange.

 But it is quite serendipitous on how much copying is done particularly for this model.
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