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Title: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Wed, 05 March 2014, 22:03:59
The intro

This is a group buy for ANSI 125 stainless steel uTKL plates. I've been wanting one for my Filco for a while now but got tired of waiting so I went out and found a local metal fabrication shop with a 5KW laser cutter that is willing to cut the plates from 16 ga. 304 stainless steel.

The plate

This is for ANSI 125 plates ONLY. I'm sure a lot of people are going to want other kinds of plates and if everything goes well enough with this initial GB I will likely do a second round and open it up to other plate designs.

This plate should fit TKL boards from Filco, QFR, Ducky, Phantom, PLU87, and possibly even a few others and will allow for switch top removal. Based on the CAD drawings (thanks jdcarpe!) I've sent to the metal fabricators, the final product should look just like this.

(http://i.imgur.com/1JifDzR.png)

The orders

There is a MOQ of at least 36 plates for this to go to production. Cost per plate is $35. CONUS shipping is $6. International shipping is $25. Plates will be shipped via USPS flat rate envelopes for both domestic and international orders. I should be able to get a maximum of 2 plates per shipping envelope. If >4 plates I'll use a USPS flat rate box.

Pricing:
$35 per plate

CONUS
1-2 plates - $6 shipping
3-4 plates - $12 shipping
5+ plates - $18 shipping

International
1-2 plates - $25 shipping
3-4 plates - $50 shipping
5+ plates - $75 shipping

Payments will be collected via PayPal and all payments should be made in USD. Payments will be due within 72 hours from the time you receive the invoice. Orders will close a few days after we hit the 36 plate MOQ. Invoicing will start pretty much immediately after that.

I will also accept BroBots as payment ;)

The fine print

I've never worked with this metal shop before so I'm not giving any estimates on lead times before I have the plates in hand or final quality. However, they are a very big, very well-known metal fabrication business that even does work for the US military so I'm going to assume the final product will be of sufficient quality and should be completed relatively quickly once production starts.

The metal fabricators have stated that the plates will have production markings (slight scratches and scuffs) so dont expect an art piece with a mirror finish. If you're going to be using costar stabilizers you will likely have to file down small sections of the plate (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.msg824224#msg824224) where the stabilizers clip in for proper fitment.

The order form

Current total: 41 plates

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/11P-1se5YWmoiRXjUiMwSLk8IlCiFT3oAgza2MTILzro/viewform
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 March 2014, 15:44:34
Ordered!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 06 March 2014, 15:53:51
Order submitted....Thanks for putting this together.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 06 March 2014, 16:11:34
What a nice surprise to shorten the waiting time for the Toxic Launch :D

Ordered 2 plates :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 06 March 2014, 16:27:49
Any chance they could sand blast finish afterwards?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 March 2014, 16:30:55
Any chance they could sand blast finish afterwards?

Do like I do and have a go at it with 80-grit sandpaper. I love how it looks.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Thu, 06 March 2014, 16:48:14
Been waiting for this.

Think i just might grab one.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: gh_pp on Thu, 06 March 2014, 18:07:53
Ordered two

Need to build two Phantoms for all my incoming MX keycaps :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Techno Trousers on Thu, 06 March 2014, 18:09:22
Ordered my two. Thanks for running this GB! Is there any chance of a price break on the plates if this goes totally viral?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 06 March 2014, 18:42:12
Thanks so much for running this group buy strict! I've been after one of these for a while now.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 06 March 2014, 18:46:49
This should technically work for the Ducky Shine II 9087 model right ?
I might get one :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: mark0331 on Thu, 06 March 2014, 19:38:33
Ordered one. Many Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: HendyZone on Thu, 06 March 2014, 19:58:45
Ordered :D

I will also accept BroBots as payment  :))
^
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Thu, 06 March 2014, 19:59:48
This should technically work for the Ducky Shine II 9087 model right ?
I might get one :)

From looking at pictures of the outside of the case I would guess it would work. I couldn't easily find pictures of the guts to be able to give a better idea than that though. You're best bet would be to open it up and compare it to a torn-apart Filco TKL.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 06 March 2014, 20:03:39
This should technically work for the Ducky Shine II 9087 model right ?
I might get one :)

From looking at pictures of the outside of the case I would guess it would work. I couldn't easily find pictures of the guts to be able to give a better idea than that though. You're best bet would be to open it up and compare it to a torn-apart Filco TKL.

IF you'd like I can take apart mine. But I'll have to look for some tools tho..  :p

Edit : I found an old pic when i dismantle it last time
(http://i.imgur.com/14OCqKQ.jpg)
not exactly the clearest pic. can you sorta work it out tho ?  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 06 March 2014, 20:34:08
This should technically work for the Ducky Shine II 9087 model right ?
I might get one :)

From looking at pictures of the outside of the case I would guess it would work. I couldn't easily find pictures of the guts to be able to give a better idea than that though. You're best bet would be to open it up and compare it to a torn-apart Filco TKL.

IF you'd like I can take apart mine. But I'll have to look for some tools tho..  :p

Edit : I found an old pic when i dismantle it last time
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/14OCqKQ.jpg)

not exactly the clearest pic. can you sorta work it out tho ?  :)

I'm pretty sure it works, but just double check the screw holes. Worse comes to worse, all you need to do is drill an extra hole.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: skcheng on Thu, 06 March 2014, 20:42:05
Exactly what I was looking for!!   Thanks much.   Ordered. 

BTW, can someone explain how this plate mount allows access to the switch case?   And how to open the switch case with a similar plate?   Thanks and sorry for the newbness....
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 06 March 2014, 21:16:35
Exactly what I was looking for!!   Thanks much.   Ordered. 

BTW, can someone explain how this plate mount allows access to the switch case?   And how to open the switch case with a similar plate?   Thanks and sorry for the newbness....

You'll need either Beast's switch tool opener:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36677.0

Or tweezers and a screwdriver.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: n0rvig on Thu, 06 March 2014, 21:24:27
Conus is $6 and shipping to Canada is $25? Yikes. Going to have to think about this..
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 March 2014, 21:33:34
Unfortunately not much can be done about the prices USPS charges for international shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: n0rvig on Thu, 06 March 2014, 21:35:29
Unfortunately not much can be done about the prices USPS charges for international shipping.

Yeah, I also haven't had much luck explaining to USPS how their international prices are wrong.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 06 March 2014, 21:37:53
Im gonna get some pics up later, hope its' compatible.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 06 March 2014, 22:08:56
Im gonna get some pics up later, hope its' compatible.

Check out my thread:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51292.msg1128527#msg1128527

Hopefully those pics saves you the trouble.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 06 March 2014, 22:26:54
Unfortunately not much can be done about the prices USPS charges for international shipping.

Yeah, I also haven't had much luck explaining to USPS how their international prices are wrong.

If there is enough canadian interest, it may be cheaper to ship to a proxy in canada for local distribution.

By the way, I am really happy about this. Enough of those lame aluminium plates! Stainless steel doesn't need to be shipped on a hardboard to prevent it from bending in the mail (though it helps). Stainless steel is awesome. I hope I can get one.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 06 March 2014, 22:42:23
Unfortunately not much can be done about the prices USPS charges for international shipping.

Yeah, I also haven't had much luck explaining to USPS how their international prices are wrong.

If there is enough canadian interest, it may be cheaper to ship to a proxy in canada for local distribution.

By the way, I am really happy about this. Enough of those lame aluminium plates! Stainless steel doesn't need to be shipped on a hardboard to prevent it from bending in the mail (though it helps). Stainless steel is awesome. I hope I can get one.

A Canadian proxy sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 07 March 2014, 02:11:17
Is there another price tier in the ~60 plates range?

If so it might be worth waiting because it looks like we will get these 36 orders with ease :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: mattics on Fri, 07 March 2014, 02:35:09
Any idea whether this would fit in a Leopold FC200R? I can tear mine down and take some pics if required.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 07 March 2014, 04:53:46
Ordered two. Looking forward to making my Keycool compatible with all keysets. :D
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: JayKthnx on Fri, 07 March 2014, 05:08:54
Ordered one. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 07 March 2014, 05:19:09
Ordered one. 

If/when you do a round2, and/or a poker2 plate I will order some more.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: badboybry9000 on Fri, 07 March 2014, 08:38:32
Ordered! Finally the time has come. I've been waiting for one of these group buys for a while.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 07 March 2014, 08:59:59
Is there another price tier in the ~60 plates range?

If so it might be worth waiting because it looks like we will get these 36 orders with ease :)


Wow, 28 orders already!

Any chance we might get a little discount if we reacher higher tiers?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 07 March 2014, 09:16:55
I'm tempted by at least 2...  If you were to buy these, would there be anything stopping you from dremeling out the bit of metal between the modifier switches on the bottom row to allow for different sized mods?  In effect creating a sort of "Universal" plate, to use the GH60 terminology
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 07 March 2014, 09:32:56
I'm tempted by at least 2...  If you were to buy these, would there be anything stopping you from dremeling out the bit of metal between the modifier switches on the bottom row to allow for different sized mods?  In effect creating a sort of "Universal" plate, to use the GH60 terminology

If you have a PCB which supports PCB-mount stabilizers, then sure, you can do that. The reason this design doesn't incorporate that "feature" is that you lose the ability to use plate mounted stabilizers, which are needed by most of the TKL keyboards this is designed for, including Phantom.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Fri, 07 March 2014, 09:47:11
Is there another price tier in the ~60 plates range?

If so it might be worth waiting because it looks like we will get these 36 orders with ease :)


Wow, 28 orders already!

Any chance we might get a little discount if we reacher higher tiers?

Being that this is the first group buy I've ever organized I'm hesitant to potentially bite off more than I can chew with the number of orders. I'll leave this open for a little while after we hit 36 plates for anyone late getting to see this but I would like keep it small enough to get familiar with the entire process from start to finish before diving into the deep end.  My main priority is making sure this goes as smoothly as possible for everyone involved (myself included).
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 07 March 2014, 10:02:02
That's understandable :)

Thank you for running this GB!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 07 March 2014, 10:31:07
Hoping in an ISO version for the next round
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 07 March 2014, 11:49:19
I'm tempted by at least 2...  If you were to buy these, would there be anything stopping you from dremeling out the bit of metal between the modifier switches on the bottom row to allow for different sized mods?  In effect creating a sort of "Universal" plate, to use the GH60 terminology

If you have a PCB which supports PCB-mount stabilizers, then sure, you can do that. The reason this design doesn't incorporate that "feature" is that you lose the ability to use plate mounted stabilizers, which are needed by most of the TKL keyboards this is designed for, including Phantom.

Awesome - I have an A.87 PCB coming my way and am tempted for that :)  Would want the other for my Filco though :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 07 March 2014, 12:15:13
I'm interested but can we talk about a Canadian proxy?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Fri, 07 March 2014, 12:31:10
I'm interested but can we talk about a Canadian proxy?

Im totally fine with shipping to a proxy. If someone wants to volunteer just speak up and I will try to work something out.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 11 March 2014, 16:24:22
I'd act as a UK proxy if people are interested.  I've done similar things in the past and am familiar with posting things on this end.  I'm definitely in for one plate but no more than that I think :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 11 March 2014, 16:55:38
I'd act as a UK proxy if people are interested.  I've done similar things in the past and am familiar with posting things on this end.  I'm definitely in for one plate but no more than that I think :)

Do you mean for UK only or would you ship to Germany too?

If this was cheaper than direct shipping from then US, I'd be interested :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 12 March 2014, 01:39:22
I'll look into it for you :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 12 March 2014, 01:51:04
I'll look into it for you :)

Thank you very much!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 12 March 2014, 02:35:00
The only information I would need is how much they weigh packaged up.  If it's less than 500g (which it should be right?) then it'll cost £4.95 (about $8) which added on to half the shipping cost from the US is just over $20 which would indeed save you some money :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 12 March 2014, 02:38:30
The only information I would need is how much they weigh packaged up.  If it's less than 500g (which it should be right?) then it'll cost £4.95 (about $8) which added on to half the shipping cost from the US is just over $20 which would indeed save you some money :thumb:

Well in my case we are talking about 2 plates, but even 2 plates shouldn't be more than 500g right?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 12 March 2014, 14:27:58
Depends on how many others we get involved as 3 plates (which is all we're at now) would cost too much.  I might have one other interested but he wants to know:

Will this fit a Leopold FC200R (which takes plate mount cherry stabs) ?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: animated on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:20:23
ordered  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:43:22
Depends on how many others we get involved as 3 plates (which is all we're at now) would cost too much.  I might have one other interested but he wants to know:

Will this fit a Leopold FC200R (which takes plate mount cherry stabs) ?

It is compatible with cherry plate stabs but I don't know if it will fit the FC200R. I couldn't find readily available pictures of the guts of that keyboard so your friend or someone else would have to pop open the case and compare the existing plate to the picture from the first post.

Regarding international shipping, keep in mind I can only get 2 plates per envelope so for proxy shipping to even approach being worth it I think we will need at least 4 or more plates shipped in a large flat rate box ($75). Im guessing I could get close to a dozen or so plates into one of the large flat rate boxes.

The good news though is that we're up to 32 orders now!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:49:33
Depends on how many others we get involved as 3 plates (which is all we're at now) would cost too much.  I might have one other interested but he wants to know:

Will this fit a Leopold FC200R (which takes plate mount cherry stabs) ?

It is compatible with cherry plate stabs but I don't know if it will fit the FC200R. I couldn't find readily available pictures of the guts of that keyboard so your friend or someone else would have to pop open the case and compare the existing plate to the picture from the first post.

Regarding international shipping, keep in mind I can only get 2 plates per envelope so for proxy shipping to even approach being worth it I think we will need at least 4 or more plates shipped in a large flat rate box ($75). Im guessing I could get close to a dozen or so plates into one of the large flat rate boxes.

The good news though is that we're up to 32 orders now!
Woohoo!! Almost there!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: deSheol on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:56:50
When does this end?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 12 March 2014, 21:10:00
When does this end?
When the MOQ is met I'm guessing.  I think Strict mentioned he wanted to keep this a relatively low order since it's his first time working with this company.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: deSheol on Wed, 12 March 2014, 21:33:26
When does this end?
When the MOQ is met I'm guessing.  I think Strict mentioned he wanted to keep this a relatively low order since it's his first time working with this company.

Sounds reasonable. Any Australian wants to combine shipping? Let me know, I'm only looking to get 1 plate for my ducky.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 13 March 2014, 06:00:01
Depends on how many others we get involved as 3 plates (which is all we're at now) would cost too much.  I might have one other interested but he wants to know:

Will this fit a Leopold FC200R (which takes plate mount cherry stabs) ?

It is compatible with cherry plate stabs but I don't know if it will fit the FC200R. I couldn't find readily available pictures of the guts of that keyboard so your friend or someone else would have to pop open the case and compare the existing plate to the picture from the first post.

Regarding international shipping, keep in mind I can only get 2 plates per envelope so for proxy shipping to even approach being worth it I think we will need at least 4 or more plates shipped in a large flat rate box ($75). Im guessing I could get close to a dozen or so plates into one of the large flat rate boxes.

The good news though is that we're up to 32 orders now!

Thanks - I've passed that on to him and am waiting to hear back.  I have another couple of people interested on another forum so including LechnerDE's two that might be 5 or 6 which would make one flat rate box quite good value at ~$12 per plate (unless like LechnerDE you have 2 plates in which case it would still be cheaper to have it sent direct...)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 13 March 2014, 06:13:46
Well, if it costs 2x 12$ through you, I'd save one precious Dollar :D

And if it comes from the UK there is no risk for me to pay import taxes, so if you don't mind I'd be happy to get my 2 plates from you.


Edit:

I am stupid and forgot that it costs another 8$ to forward my plates. If you get more people interested we might be able to lower the shipping costs per plate to something like 8$. Then it would be worthwhile for me again :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 13 March 2014, 07:09:02
Yeah - let's see how it goes with yours. 

Does anyone else in the UK / EU want me to proxy stuff?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Fri, 14 March 2014, 07:10:16
Should be getting a prototype plate early next week  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 14 March 2014, 07:31:22
Should be getting a prototype plate early next week  :cool:

Sweet :)

Excited to see how it turned out.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 07:52:33
Sorry for nothing related to the Topic but you guys saw this topic ID?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55555.50

WOW  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 14 March 2014, 07:58:10
Sorry for nothing related to the Topic but you guys saw this topic ID?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55555.50

WOW  :eek:

Your link is to this thread?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 08:00:13
Sorry for nothing related to the Topic but you guys saw this topic ID?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55555.50

WOW  :eek:

Your link is to this thread?

Yes, I think it is quite rate to have 6 number 5 in a row like that.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 15:19:15
hmmmm... I might need to order another one of these. This would be the third time lol (previously aluminum and steel).
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 17 March 2014, 16:06:12
Sorry for nothing related to the Topic but you guys saw this topic ID?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55555.50

WOW  :eek:

Your link is to this thread?

Yes, I think it is quite rate to have 6 number 5 in a row like that.

Looks as though somebody has a spoilt switch that spams 5
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Mon, 17 March 2014, 18:16:53
Here is an imgur album of the prototype I picked up today. This is a 063 aluminum plate that was used ONLY for the prototype, the production plates will be 304 stainless. Aluminum was used for the prototype mainly because I was just concerned with all the measurements being correct and making sure the tolerances could be met.

There are some slight surface scuffs and markings, however they are all pretty light. The production stainless plates should be a more resilient metal and hopefully have less markings. Let me know what you guys think!

http://imgur.com/a/Up10e (http://imgur.com/a/Up10e)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 March 2014, 18:22:11
Looks good to me!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 18:55:54
Looks great Strict!!! Hope we get to MOQ soon!!  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:54:01
Yeah, I'm somewhat surprised this isn't sitting at about 50 orders so far. One thing to think about, if you can afford it, is that you might want to pick up an extra plate, or even two in this GB. The plates only seem to be made once a year or so, and people are ALWAYS wanting them. You could probably use one of these to trade for something that doesn't come along every day, because these plates will end up being highly sought after once they haven't been produced for a while. New people come into this hobby all the time, and want things that were made before they started.

Now, if there is a steady stream of them being produced, this doesn't really apply, but I feel it's better to have extra than not enough. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 17 March 2014, 21:38:14
Here is an imgur album of the prototype I picked up today. This is a 063 aluminum plate that was used ONLY for the prototype, the production plates will be 304 stainless. Aluminum was used for the prototype mainly because I was just concerned with all the measurements being correct and making sure the tolerances could be met.

There are some slight surface scuffs and markings, however they are all pretty light. The production stainless plates should be a more resilient metal and hopefully have less markings. Let me know what you guys think!

http://imgur.com/a/Up10e (http://imgur.com/a/Up10e)

Looks good :thumb:

Strict do you think you will do a round2 after these are made?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 18 March 2014, 02:23:11
Yeah, I'm somewhat surprised this isn't sitting at about 50 orders so far. One thing to think about, if you can afford it, is that you might want to pick up an extra plate, or even two in this GB. The plates only seem to be made once a year or so, and people are ALWAYS wanting them. You could probably use one of these to trade for something that doesn't come along every day, because these plates will end up being highly sought after once they haven't been produced for a while. New people come into this hobby all the time, and want things that were made before they started.

Now, if there is a steady stream of them being produced, this doesn't really apply, but I feel it's better to have extra than not enough. :)

If another plate wouldn't increase the shipping costs from 25$ to 50$ I'd be up for another one :)

Looks good :thumb:

Strict do you think you will do a round2 after these are made?

Yeah, I am also interested in a Round 2, if you offer a universal plate that allows all kinds of setups. Like 1.5 mods and short right shift keys similar to the universal layout of the GH plates  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 18 March 2014, 03:55:09
I should be adding an order for another 3 or 4 once I get confirmation from a few people this end :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 March 2014, 06:39:20

Yeah, I am also interested in a Round 2, if you offer a universal plate that allows all kinds of setups. Like 1.5 mods and short right shift keys similar to the universal layout of the GH plates  :thumb:

I could easily design the plate to have those options, but what PCB would you use it with? Almost all the keyboards this plate is designed for use plate mount stabilizers only, not PCB mount. Meaning there are no holes at all on the PCB for mounting stabilizers. And to have a plate with those different layout options, you have to use PCB mount stabilizers. Because the holes in the plate for switches and stabilizers overlap, so you just end up with a big hole where the stabilizer goes, and not the proper cutout for mounting the stabilizer to the plate. Which is fine, as long as you can use PCB mounted stabilizers.

I guess the few people who have A.87 PCBs could use a plate like that, but I don't think you would ever hit any kind of MOQ for the plate. :(
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Tue, 18 March 2014, 07:44:14
Here is an imgur album of the prototype I picked up today. This is a 063 aluminum plate that was used ONLY for the prototype, the production plates will be 304 stainless. Aluminum was used for the prototype mainly because I was just concerned with all the measurements being correct and making sure the tolerances could be met.

There are some slight surface scuffs and markings, however they are all pretty light. The production stainless plates should be a more resilient metal and hopefully have less markings. Let me know what you guys think!

http://imgur.com/a/Up10e (http://imgur.com/a/Up10e)

Looks good :thumb:

Strict do you think you will do a round2 after these are made?

Let me finish up R1 and I will say for sure but currently things have gone well enough its a very good possibility. We still have a ways to go though (invoicing, production, shipping, etc).
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Ishamael on Tue, 18 March 2014, 08:08:27
Seriously tempted. Gotta mull it over, but might order one when I get home from work.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 18 March 2014, 08:18:53

Yeah, I am also interested in a Round 2, if you offer a universal plate that allows all kinds of setups. Like 1.5 mods and short right shift keys similar to the universal layout of the GH plates  :thumb:

I could easily design the plate to have those options, but what PCB would you use it with? Almost all the keyboards this plate is designed for use plate mount stabilizers only, not PCB mount. Meaning there are no holes at all on the PCB for mounting stabilizers. And to have a plate with those different layout options, you have to use PCB mount stabilizers. Because the holes in the plate for switches and stabilizers overlap, so you just end up with a big hole where the stabilizer goes, and not the proper cutout for mounting the stabilizer to the plate. Which is fine, as long as you can use PCB mounted stabilizers.

I guess the few people who have A.87 PCBs could use a plate like that, but I don't think you would ever hit any kind of MOQ for the plate. :(

Oh, I wasn't aware of these details. I am still a total noob when it comes to building a keyboard :p

The Phantom will be my first project. Doesn't the Phantom PCB allow 1,5 Mods or were you specifically talking about the short right shift key?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 March 2014, 08:35:34
Oh, I wasn't aware of these details. I am still a total noob when it comes to building a keyboard :p

The Phantom will be my first project. Doesn't the Phantom PCB allow 1,5 Mods or were you specifically talking about the short right shift key?

Yes, the Phantom PCB allows for 1.5-unit mods, but you need a separate plate design for that. You can't combine the designs for 125 and 150 into a single plate, as in the GH60 Universal plate, because GH60 allows for PCB mount stabilizers, and Phantom doesn't. In this case, the term "Universal" means that this ANSI125 plate will replace the stock plates of several different keyboards, e.g. Filco, QFR, Phantom, etc. In the case of the GH60 "Universal" plate, it means that one plate covers several layout options.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 18 March 2014, 08:43:12
Thanks for the clarification  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: skcheng on Tue, 18 March 2014, 11:09:11
Yeah, I'm somewhat surprised this isn't sitting at about 50 orders so far. One thing to think about, if you can afford it, is that you might want to pick up an extra plate, or even two in this GB. The plates only seem to be made once a year or so, and people are ALWAYS wanting them. You could probably use one of these to trade for something that doesn't come along every day, because these plates will end up being highly sought after once they haven't been produced for a while. New people come into this hobby all the time, and want things that were made before they started.

Now, if there is a steady stream of them being produced, this doesn't really apply, but I feel it's better to have extra than not enough. :)


You convinced me.   Just ordered another.....
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: n7 on Tue, 18 March 2014, 22:29:29
I broke the stem of one of the switches on my FC200R. Since this kind of damage isn't covered by my warranty anyway, I was thinking about doing some other mods. What would be the best way to determine if the plate would fit this keyboard? I saw a couple of other people ask about it in this thread, but it doesn't look like there was a definitive answer
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 March 2014, 23:01:49

I broke the stem of one of the switches on my FC200R. Since this kind of damage isn't covered by my warranty anyway, I was thinking about doing some other mods. What would be the best way to determine if the plate would fit this keyboard? I saw a couple of other people ask about it in this thread, but it doesn't look like there was a definitive answer

I can't be sure, since I haven't tried this plate on a Leopold, but there is a high probability that it will fit. If it does, you also gain the ability to mount stabilizers to the plate which will accept normal spacebars. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 March 2014, 23:20:59

I broke the stem of one of the switches on my FC200R. Since this kind of damage isn't covered by my warranty anyway, I was thinking about doing some other mods. What would be the best way to determine if the plate would fit this keyboard? I saw a couple of other people ask about it in this thread, but it doesn't look like there was a definitive answer

I can't be sure, since I haven't tried this plate on a Leopold, but there is a high probability that it will fit. If it does, you also gain the ability to mount stabilizers to the plate which will accept normal spacebars. :)

Jalaj was selling a Leopold TKL here on GH that had one of WFD's plates in it with Costar stabilizers.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Wed, 19 March 2014, 08:50:50
Were now at 34 orders so if you're holding off for some reason now is the time to get in. Even if we don't get all 36 orders I don't plan on keeping this open much longer. If I have to, I will buy the remaining plates myself and figure out something to do with them.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: n7 on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:05:16
Went ahead and ordered! These look too nice to pass up  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Wed, 19 March 2014, 15:18:12
Went ahead and ordered! These look too nice to pass up  :thumb:

That makes number 36. I plan on closing this up by end-of-day on Friday and starting the process of sending out PayPal invoices either Saturday or Sunday. If all that goes well hopefully I can give the go ahead to start production of the plates by the middle of next week.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 19 March 2014, 15:30:23
Went ahead and ordered! These look too nice to pass up  :thumb:

That makes number 36. I plan on closing this up by end-of-day on Friday and starting the process of sending out PayPal invoices either Saturday or Sunday. If all that goes well hopefully I can give the go ahead to start production on the plates by the middle of next week.
Thanks again for making this happen Strict!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 19 March 2014, 16:49:46
Best get chasing up this end then - can you wait to hear from me?  I won't hold things up - I promise!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Wed, 19 March 2014, 18:55:52
Best get chasing up this end then - can you wait to hear from me?  I won't hold things up - I promise!

I plan on closing the order form on Friday night so as long as you can get those orders sorted out by then thats no problem. If not, you/they will have to hold out for round 2.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 19 March 2014, 21:27:20
Best get chasing up this end then - can you wait to hear from me?  I won't hold things up - I promise!

I plan on closing the order form on Friday night so as long as you can get those orders sorted out by then thats no problem. If not, you/they will have to hold out for round 2.

Glad to hear you are going to do a round2.  I will definitely order another one/two for my other Filcos.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 20 March 2014, 04:49:52
Best get chasing up this end then - can you wait to hear from me?  I won't hold things up - I promise!

I plan on closing the order form on Friday night so as long as you can get those orders sorted out by then thats no problem. If not, you/they will have to hold out for round 2.

I'll definitely get an order in by then :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 20 March 2014, 14:16:30
If I have a QFR, is the benefit of this plate that I can do switch top removal without desoldering (well, once I've desoldered and resoldered to install the plate)?  I'm kind of looking for an excuse to buy this, but I'm already pretty happy with the default QFR plate (I THINK it's powder coated stainless steel).
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 15:23:21
If I have a QFR, is the benefit of this plate that I can do switch top removal without desoldering (well, once I've desoldered and resoldered to install the plate)?  I'm kind of looking for an excuse to buy this, but I'm already pretty happy with the default QFR plate (I THINK it's powder coated stainless steel).
Yes, once the plate is installed, it will allow for the removal of the top of the switch which will allow for installation of new springs and stems.  In addition, you'd also be able to install switch stickers or apply lube as well.  It's a really nice way to try different switches/springs to potentially find new combinations you might like.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 21 March 2014, 13:10:26
Placed an order for 3 plates although that may change to 4 but maybe not :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Fri, 21 March 2014, 23:29:08
Final count for round 1 was 41 plates from 26 users. I'm going to try to get all invoices sent out before the end of the weekend. As soon as all the invoices are paid I will give the green light for production to start. Thanks everyone for making this a success thus far! :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 21 March 2014, 23:33:34
Final count for round 1 was 41 plates from 26 users. I'm going to try to get all invoices sent out before the end of the weekend. As soon as all the invoices are paid I will give the green light for production to start. Thanks everyone for making this a success thus far! :cool:

Thank you strict for doing this :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Sat, 22 March 2014, 20:14:36
Invoices have been sent. I double checked everything but if there are any problems with them please let me know.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: n7 on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:00:51
Paid!! Thanks for organizing this buy :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:04:47
Paid! Thanks again Strict!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:45:37
Paid.  Thanks again strict, and I look forward to round2.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: whiskytango on Sat, 22 March 2014, 22:12:26
Paid. Thanks strict
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 22 March 2014, 22:12:28
Paid up....excited to finally get my hands on a custom TKL plate.

Thanks a TON strict!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: HendyZone on Sat, 22 March 2014, 22:22:21
Check PM strict

Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: skcheng on Sun, 23 March 2014, 08:42:09
Invoice received and paid.   Thx,

skc
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Reckthor on Sun, 23 March 2014, 16:22:05
Paid.
 Can't wait to finish my phantom.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 20:01:57
Is this over? Still taking orders?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 24 March 2014, 02:48:57
Is this over? Still taking orders?

I don't think he will place an order before everyone has paid the invoice, so just send him a PM.

In other news I also paid mine :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 24 March 2014, 09:29:35
Paid! Looking forward to getting my hands on this. :D
Now, do I order another board for that second plate?...
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Mon, 24 March 2014, 09:32:00
Is this over? Still taking orders?

I'm hesitant to take on any new orders since I've already sent out the invoices and all but 4 orders are paid for so we're probably a day or two at most away from starting production of the plates. My preference would be to have anyone who missed out on this to wait for round 2 which I'm hoping to start sometime in April.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: HendyZone on Mon, 24 March 2014, 11:11:44
Paid strict

Thanks :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Mon, 24 March 2014, 19:51:15
All invoices have been paid except two. I went ahead and told the metal shop to get started on production. If you haven't paid your invoice yet please do so.

Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: gh_pp on Mon, 24 March 2014, 23:06:51
All invoices have been paid except two. I went ahead and told the metal shop to get started on production. If you haven't paid your invoice yet please do so.

Is this over? Still taking orders?

Just got the invoice but I'm in a keyboard depression right now...   :'(
I bought a few parts just need this plate and a phantom pcb to start my build.

However since sheraton / originative still won't ship my GMK keyset after 6 months I really hate looking at my mx boards/parts. I don't even browse this forum that often nowadays.

If any of you want to take my orders it's yours (2 plates).

Strict, I'll still pay my invoice if this creates hassles for you, and I apologize in advance.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 25 March 2014, 06:33:49
I went ahead and told the metal shop to get started on production. If you haven't paid your invoice yet please do so.

Oooh exciting :D
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Tue, 25 March 2014, 09:41:25
All invoices have been paid except two. I went ahead and told the metal shop to get started on production. If you haven't paid your invoice yet please do so.

Is this over? Still taking orders?

Just got the invoice but I'm in a keyboard depression right now...   :'(
I bought a few parts just need this plate and a phantom pcb to start my build.

However since sheraton / originative still won't ship my GMK keyset after 6 months I really hate looking at my mx boards/parts. I don't even browse this forum that often nowadays.

If any of you want to take my orders it's yours (2 plates).

Strict, I'll still pay my invoice if this creates hassles for you, and I apologize in advance.

That's no problem. I went ahead and cancelled your invoice. One of the two plates from your order has already been requested so I still have one more if someone wants it (lightsout714?).
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 25 March 2014, 10:31:29
Hey thanks man. I think I'll hold off for now.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: motoyuki on Thu, 27 March 2014, 09:51:33
Please ignore.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Thu, 27 March 2014, 14:36:35
Just received an update today that if all goes well I should be able to go pickup the plates sometime this coming week.  :thumb:

Also, we had another order cancellation so I now have 3 unclaimed plates. If you want one (or all) of them get in contact with me and I'll get you on the list.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 27 March 2014, 16:04:11
Awesome turnaround on these - well done good sir
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: stancato9 on Fri, 28 March 2014, 08:31:04
Just received an update today that if all goes well I should be able to go pickup the plates sometime this coming week.  :thumb:

Also, we had another order cancellation so I now have 3 unclaimed plates. If you want one (or all) of them get in contact with me and I'll get you on the list.

I'm sort of interested, but is there no cheaper method of shipping to Canada?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 28 March 2014, 09:08:12
Just received an update today that if all goes well I should be able to go pickup the plates sometime this coming week.  :thumb:

Also, we had another order cancellation so I now have 3 unclaimed plates. If you want one (or all) of them get in contact with me and I'll get you on the list.

I'm sort of interested, but is there no cheaper method of shipping to Canada?

International shipping doesn't get much cheaper than that, unless it's something like a keycap in a small bubble mailer. I believe the price quoted is for Priority Mail International. You might save a few dollars by using First Class Mail, but in my experience that has a much higher risk of getting lost, damaged, or taking half a year to arrive.

Large commercial vendors can charge less for international shipping because they have special volume rates with the shipping companies, and because they can eat some of the international shipping costs by overcharging a small percentage on domestic order shipping, due to the economies of scale.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Fri, 28 March 2014, 11:39:10
The final 3 plates were just claimed which means all orders have now been paid. Thank you everyone! I will keep you updated.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Techno Trousers on Fri, 28 March 2014, 13:42:33
Awesome! Thanks for running this, strict. The best group buys are the ones that go quickly and everyone comes out happy.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: SeeThruHead on Fri, 28 March 2014, 16:12:12
Any vendors buy some for resell? I'm got into the mechanical keyboard modding just slightly too late for this GB.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Fri, 28 March 2014, 16:25:26
Any vendors buy some for resell? I'm got into the mechanical keyboard modding just slightly too late for this GB.

Nope, I thought we would have at least one vendor purchase some but my biggest order was GeorgeK's 4 plates.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: SeeThruHead on Fri, 28 March 2014, 16:29:01
Ok whelp, I suppose I'll watch this thread for the inevitable round 2!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 01 April 2014, 01:34:44
Any vendors buy some for resell? I'm got into the mechanical keyboard modding just slightly too late for this GB.

Nope, I thought we would have at least one vendor purchase some but my biggest order was GeorgeK's 4 plates.

Once  people see how these turn out I would think you should get more orders for R2.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:33:49
I picked up the plates from the fabricators today and I've got good news and bad news.

The good news is that the plates all turned out very nicely. They all have clean cut outs and they have nice, smooth edges around the perimeter. The stainless steel is substantially heavier and much more rigid than the aluminum prototype. They all have some scuffing and scratching on the front face to some degree but nothing too serious. I'll be keeping the two worst looking plates for myself and shipping the the best ones to all of you.

The bad is that, due to a miscommunication on my part, the plates are all the v1 design. This means the caps lock and space bar switch holes are not cut to allow for offsets. This is the only design difference between v1 and v2. I think for most people this will make very little difference (if at all). Maybe someone who is more knowledgeable than I can weigh in with more info about what specific keyboards would be affected by this.

I am very sorry for this mistake and if this is a deal breaker for anyone please get in contact with me ASAP and I will refund your entire purchase without hesitation. I'm going to work on getting everything ready to ship over the weekend so if I haven't heard from you by Monday or Tuesday I'm going to assume you're okay with the v1 design and go ahead and ship out your order.

There was some sort of sticker residue on some of the plates that can be seen in the photo below. I went through and cleaned it off all the affected plates with rubbing alcohol.
(http://i.imgur.com/B5oj2Yw.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Techno Trousers on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:38:57
Well, the two I ordered were for QFRs. Can anybody tell me if this means the plates are now incompatible?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:52:29
The only people who would be affected by the offset cuts not being present are those who wanted to use the plate for a Phantom build, and really wanted to use an offset caps lock and/or spacebar. And someone would only really want to do that if they planned to use a set of keycaps from a vintage Cherry Corp keyboard, such as a G80-8113.

Glad to hear they came out nicely, strict. They look amazing!

Also, good guy strict offering refunds if people can't use the plate as made.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 03 April 2014, 23:11:38
The mistake doesn't matter to me. Should be just fine for QFR like jd said.

Jd, I've been meaning to ask you what are the extra Stab holes for on space bar? There must be a board that uses a shorter Stab. Leopold?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 April 2014, 23:15:34
The mistake doesn't matter to me. Should be just fine for QFR like jd said.

Jd, I've been meaning to ask you what are the extra Stab holes for on space bar? There must be a board that uses a shorter Stab. Leopold?

Heh, yeah they were included in the original Phantom plates, so they migrated into this one. Yes, I believe they are for compatibility with Leopold FC200R spacebars, but I haven't tested that theory. Why anyone would desire compatibility for those is a mystery to me. But it kinda looks cool there with so much space available in the spacebar area.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Techno Trousers on Thu, 03 April 2014, 23:22:08
Cool, glad to hear everything is still good to go. They look great! I'm looking forward to some modding in the near future.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 03 April 2014, 23:44:17
I picked up the plates from the fabricators today and I've got good news and bad news.

The good news is that the plates all turned out very nicely. They all have clean cut outs and they have nice, smooth edges around the perimeter. The stainless steel is substantially heavier and much more rigid than the aluminum prototype. They all have some scuffing and scratching on the front face to some degree but nothing too serious. I'll be keeping the two worst looking plates for myself and shipping the the best ones to all of you.

The bad is that, due to a miscommunication on my part, the plates are all the v1 design. This means the caps lock and space bar switch holes are not cut to allow for offsets. This is the only design difference between v1 and v2. I think for most people this will make very little difference (if at all). Maybe someone who is more knowledgeable than I can weigh in with more info about what specific keyboards would be affected by this.

I am very sorry for this mistake and if this is a deal breaker for anyone please get in contact with me ASAP and I will refund your entire purchase without hesitation. I'm going to work on getting everything ready to ship over the weekend so if I haven't heard from you by Monday or Tuesday I'm going to assume you're okay with the v1 design and go ahead and ship out your order.

There was some sort of sticker residue on some of the plates that can be seen in the photo below. I went through and cleaned it off all the affected plates with rubbing alcohol.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/B5oj2Yw.jpg)


They look good from what I can see in the picture. 

As long as the V1 version will work fine in my MJ2 it doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: nickr on Fri, 04 April 2014, 00:13:53
Glad to hear it weighs more.  I want people to work up a sweat when they move my boards.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 04 April 2014, 00:17:10
Glad to hear it weighs more.  I want people to work up a sweat when they move my boards.

I like heft on my electronics as well.  Can't wait for this plate to get delivered  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: cultofjosh on Fri, 04 April 2014, 03:14:32
I'm certainly OK with the v1 design. Can't wait! Now I just need a board and switches for my first custom TKL build because I certainly have enough TKL plates and springs now :)

Edit: Apparently 4am EST makes it too difficult for me to spell "TKL" correctly...
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: JayKthnx on Fri, 04 April 2014, 03:22:13
Looks good to me!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Fri, 04 April 2014, 09:45:00
Glad to hear it weighs more.  I want people to work up a sweat when they move my boards.

I like heft on my electronics as well.  Can't wait for this plate to get delivered  :thumb:

The difference between the stainless and aluminum plates is remarkable. After comparing the two I don't think I would ever run a GB for aluminum plates, they feel so flimsy and frail while the stainless is very heavy and is almost entirely inflexible. IMO the stainless plate *feels* so much nicer as well, it's hard to describe but they have an almost surgical instrument type feel to them. In comparison, the aluminum just kind of feels like metal.

Be forewarned that making any modifications to these will not be an easy task, they are exceptionally tough. I started working on filing down the stabilizer cutout sections on my two personal plates so I could use costar stabs. I could easily use sandpaper to do this to the aluminum prototype but I ended up using my dremel tool on the stainless.

I'll try to get a few better pictures of the plates tonight while I'm working on getting some packed up.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: skcheng on Fri, 04 April 2014, 09:48:18
Awesome!!   Really looking forward to getting mine!!    This is the LAST piece of the puzzle for me!!   
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 04 April 2014, 10:52:15
Glad to hear it weighs more.  I want people to work up a sweat when they move my boards.

I like heft on my electronics as well.  Can't wait for this plate to get delivered  :thumb:

The difference between the stainless and aluminum plates is remarkable. After comparing the two I don't think I would ever run a GB for aluminum plates, they feel so flimsy and frail while the stainless is very heavy and is almost entirely inflexible. IMO the stainless plate *feels* so much nicer as well, it's hard to describe but they have an almost surgical instrument type feel to them. In comparison, the aluminum just kind of feels like metal.

Be forewarned that making any modifications to these will not be an easy task, they are exceptionally tough. I started working on filing down the stabilizer cutout sections on my two personal plates so I could use costar stabs. I could easily use sandpaper to do this to the aluminum prototype but I ended up using my dremel tool on the stainless.

I'll try to get a few better pictures of the plates tonight while I'm working on getting some packed up.

If you haven't already considered this, for R2 you could offer to file down the costar stab areas for a service fee.  If you have, that's cool :cool:

EDIT:  Changed my comment above to apply to R2 - don't want to pressure strict into any more work than he's already done for this round.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Techno Trousers on Fri, 04 April 2014, 10:52:59

Be forewarned that making any modifications to these will not be an easy task, they are exceptionally tough. I started working on filing down the stabilizer cutout sections on my two personal plates so I could use costar stabs. I could easily use sandpaper to do this to the aluminum prototype but I ended up using my dremel tool on the stainless.

I'll try to get a few better pictures of the plates tonight while I'm working on getting some packed up.

Can you include some shots showing where you ground the plates for your stabilizers? I guess this will be the project that finally makes me buy my own Dremel.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 04 April 2014, 13:40:44

Be forewarned that making any modifications to these will not be an easy task, they are exceptionally tough. I started working on filing down the stabilizer cutout sections on my two personal plates so I could use costar stabs. I could easily use sandpaper to do this to the aluminum prototype but I ended up using my dremel tool on the stainless.

I'll try to get a few better pictures of the plates tonight while I'm working on getting some packed up.

Can you include some shots showing where you ground the plates for your stabilizers? I guess this will be the project that finally makes me buy my own Dremel.

The OP has a link to another thread that has a nice picture.  For your convenience, here it is (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.msg824224#msg824224)  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 05 April 2014, 08:06:50
PM'd you bud about the plates - unfortunately I'll have to reduce my order to just 2 as only 2 of the 4 were destined for Filco (or Filco-esque) boards :)

Thanks

George
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 05 April 2014, 08:15:32
I'm so excited for these, went ahead and ordered a 100 pack of mx clears from mechanicalkeyboards.com and a thick lube kit.  I'll need to trim the PCB pins in order to mount switches on this plate, right? First time for me doing a mod of this kind.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:53:05
If you haven't already considered this, for R2 you could offer to file down the costar stab areas for a service fee.  If you have, that's cool :cool:

EDIT:  Changed my comment above to apply to R2 - don't want to pressure strict into any more work than he's already done for this round.

To be honest, I dont think its even necessary. I started filing down my first plate thinking it would be, but out of curiousity I tried the costar stabs on an unmodified plate and they worked just fine. All I had to do was fiddle with the black plate clips a little to get them to fully seat and then they worked just fine. I guess the stainless steel this shop uses is just the right size to work without modification. I didn't try this on all the plates so YMMV but I think they will be okay.

PM'd you bud about the plates - unfortunately I'll have to reduce my order to just 2 as only 2 of the 4 were destined for Filco (or Filco-esque) boards :)

Thanks

George

You should see a refund for those two plate shortly. Sorry about any inconvenience!

I'm so excited for these, went ahead and ordered a 100 pack of mx clears from mechanicalkeyboards.com and a thick lube kit.  I'll need to trim the PCB pins in order to mount switches on this plate, right? First time for me doing a mod of this kind.

Depending upon your PCB you will need to a flush cutter to make those switches work. I think some of the A87 PCBs have holes to allow for PCB or plate mount switches but if your going with a Filco/Phantom/QFR type keyboard you will very likely need to trim the legs off the switch housing.

I dont have any more pictures of the plates yet, something unexpected came up last night and I didn't get back home until pretty late. After I eat some lunch and maybe watch an episode or two of GoT I'm going to start working on getting everyones stuff packaged up so its ready to be shipped on Monday or Tuesday.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 05 April 2014, 11:32:42
If you haven't already considered this, for R2 you could offer to file down the costar stab areas for a service fee.  If you have, that's cool :cool:

EDIT:  Changed my comment above to apply to R2 - don't want to pressure strict into any more work than he's already done for this round.

To be honest, I dont think its even necessary. I started filing down my first plate thinking it would be, but out of curiousity I tried the costar stabs on an unmodified plate and they worked just fine. All I had to do was fiddle with the black plate clips a little to get them to fully seat and then they worked just fine. I guess the stainless steel this shop uses is just the right size to work without modification. I didn't try this on all the plates so YMMV but I think they will be okay.

Yeah, I was going to say, sometimes filing is not even necessary. It really just depends on the thickness of the steel, and how stubborn you are in trying to get the Costar inserts to fit.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 05 April 2014, 12:22:31
You should see a refund for those two plate shortly. Sorry about any inconvenience!

All received my friend - thank you very much!  Glad to say that I'm still going to be having one of these as they look awesome - my Filco is looking forward to being stickered, lubed and plated (well as I'm going to have to desolder the thing to put the plate on it seems rude to not do the rest at the same time :D 

Pics will be supplied!

GK
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 05 April 2014, 12:49:49
I just caught up on this thread.

I indeed wanted to use these plates for my 2 Phantom PCBs. So I have until tomorrow until I decide right?

Is a Round 2 with V2 plates and more options (e.g. 1.5 Mods) confirmed? If not, I will definitely stick to my order :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 05 April 2014, 16:02:38
If you haven't already considered this, for R2 you could offer to file down the costar stab areas for a service fee.  If you have, that's cool :cool:

EDIT:  Changed my comment above to apply to R2 - don't want to pressure strict into any more work than he's already done for this round.

To be honest, I dont think its even necessary. I started filing down my first plate thinking it would be, but out of curiousity I tried the costar stabs on an unmodified plate and they worked just fine. All I had to do was fiddle with the black plate clips a little to get them to fully seat and then they worked just fine. I guess the stainless steel this shop uses is just the right size to work without modification. I didn't try this on all the plates so YMMV but I think they will be okay.

Yeah, I was going to say, sometimes filing is not even necessary. It really just depends on the thickness of the steel, and how stubborn you are in trying to get the Costar inserts to fit.

Great news :) 

Now if it only works that way on mine.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Sat, 05 April 2014, 23:21:23
I just caught up on this thread.

I indeed wanted to use these plates for my 2 Phantom PCBs. So I have until tomorrow until I decide right?

Is a Round 2 with V2 plates and more options (e.g. 1.5 Mods) confirmed? If not, I will definitely stick to my order :)

I'm still not positive whats in store for round 2 or if it will even happen. This process has been appreciably more tedious and laborious than I had imagined. Considering the effort and time I have invested, shipping materials, fees, etc I'm not convinced round 2 will be worth all the effort. This has really given my a new appreciation for people like Ivan, I have no idea how any one person could run that many GB's one after another all shipping hundreds of products to hundreds of people.

On a more positive note, I have everyones order packaged. I just need to fill out the customs forms for the international orders and I'll be ready to take this 50lb box of steel plates to the poor lady at the shipping dept. where I work  :))

Also, here is the imgur album with more pictures as promised - http://imgur.com/a/WLaM9
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 06 April 2014, 02:13:16
I just caught up on this thread.

I indeed wanted to use these plates for my 2 Phantom PCBs. So I have until tomorrow until I decide right?

Is a Round 2 with V2 plates and more options (e.g. 1.5 Mods) confirmed? If not, I will definitely stick to my order :)

I'm still not positive whats in store for round 2 or if it will even happen. This process has been appreciably more tedious and laborious than I had imagined. Considering the effort and time I have invested, shipping materials, fees, etc I'm not convinced round 2 will be worth all the effort. This has really given my a new appreciation for people like Ivan, I have no idea how any one person could run that many GB's one after another all shipping hundreds of products to hundreds of people.

On a more positive note, I have everyones order packaged. I just need to fill out the customs forms for the international orders and I'll be ready to take this 50lb box of steel plates to the poor lady at the shipping dept. where I work  :))

Also, here is the imgur album with more pictures as promised - http://imgur.com/a/WLaM9

Pictures look good.  Thanks for running this GB.  I hope you change your mind about R2.  It would be awesome to get some V2 plates made.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 06 April 2014, 02:35:01
The only people who would be affected by the offset cuts not being present are those who wanted to use the plate for a Phantom build, and really wanted to use an offset caps lock and/or spacebar. And someone would only really want to do that if they planned to use a set of keycaps from a vintage Cherry Corp keyboard, such as a G80-8113.

Glad to hear they came out nicely, strict. They look amazing!

Also, good guy strict offering refunds if people can't use the plate as made.


To be clear, the 8113 and 8200 have center stem capslock.

This issue really affects people who wanted to use it with their phantom (or sprit or whatever) and wanted cherry keycaps on it. I like to put POM spacebars on my KBs, but it's not a big deal for me (I'll just grab another aluminium spacebar)

On the plus side, they stabilize the spacebar switch from both sides, which may have a minimal effect on sound/feel.

Stainless plates are the only way to go. Aluminium ones need to be shipped on a hardboard so they don't bend: stainless don't really need that. They are much more durable and pretty much better in every way. Plus the sound of a metal spacebar bottoming out one is music to my ears (and my roommate's when I'm playing a platformer)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 06 April 2014, 13:10:07
I just caught up on this thread.

I indeed wanted to use these plates for my 2 Phantom PCBs. So I have until tomorrow until I decide right?

Is a Round 2 with V2 plates and more options (e.g. 1.5 Mods) confirmed? If not, I will definitely stick to my order :)

I'm still not positive whats in store for round 2 or if it will even happen. This process has been appreciably more tedious and laborious than I had imagined. Considering the effort and time I have invested, shipping materials, fees, etc I'm not convinced round 2 will be worth all the effort. This has really given my a new appreciation for people like Ivan, I have no idea how any one person could run that many GB's one after another all shipping hundreds of products to hundreds of people.

On a more positive note, I have everyones order packaged. I just need to fill out the customs forms for the international orders and I'll be ready to take this 50lb box of steel plates to the poor lady at the shipping dept. where I work  :))

Also, here is the imgur album with more pictures as promised - http://imgur.com/a/WLaM9

Thanks for your reply!

I'll keep my Round 1 order then and hope there will be a Round 2 ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Mon, 07 April 2014, 14:36:01
Plates will be shipping out tomorrow morning. They would have shipped today but I wanted to make sure everyone was given ample time to contact me if they wanted to cancel/change their order. If I haven't heard from you by that point I'm going to assume you're okay with the v1 plate and go ahead and ship your order.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 15:22:09
Plates will be shipping out tomorrow morning. They would have shipped today but I wanted to make sure everyone was given ample time to contact me if they wanted to cancel/change their order. If I haven't heard from you by that point I'm going to assume you're okay with the v1 plate and go ahead and ship your order.
Thanks for all your hard work Strict, I'm very happy this GB turned out successful.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Tue, 08 April 2014, 10:56:46
All orders have been shipped  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:35:47
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Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 08 April 2014, 18:59:54
cool. any tracking information?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 08 April 2014, 19:05:16
All orders have been shipped  :cool:

Thanks Strict

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Random%20Funny%20Picks/HighFive-1.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:09:52
cool. any tracking information?

Sorry, no tracking info. I suspect the CONUS plates will arrive before the end of the week. Not sure when the international ones will show up, this is my first experience shipping outside of the country.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:23:35
ok, thanks for the reply, i look forward to it.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: cultofjosh on Thu, 10 April 2014, 12:26:28
Just got my plates. Thanks, Strict!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 10 April 2014, 12:59:08
Just got my plates. Thanks, Strict!

PICS!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 April 2014, 13:37:22
Got my plates today, too. I have to say, these have probably the cleanest laser work, with the tightest tolerances, I've ever seen in a laser cut plate. I've participated in multiple buys, and sent work to online shops, and these are the best I've seen. There is some minor surface scratching all over the front, which detracts from the finish a bit, but the cutting is out-freakin'-standing. Kudos to the shop you found, strict.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: cultofjosh on Thu, 10 April 2014, 13:39:47
I tried with my phone but too much glare and direct sunlight to get a decent pic. I'm attaching 1 so there's something. I'll have to bring my camera into work for the future.

[attach=1]

They look really good. The "slight scratches and scuffs" mentioned in the OP are pretty minimal on the top side and don't take away from the plates at all IMHO.

Edit: cropped and rotated my terrible photo :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 10 April 2014, 13:43:24
That looks really good strict.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Thu, 10 April 2014, 14:00:58
Im glad you guys are happy with them. I've been anxious for feedback ever since they were shipped.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 April 2014, 14:07:07
Yeah, the scratches on the finish don't bother me at all. I like to use 80-grit sandpaper on mine, anyway, to give them a non-brushed, sanded finish. After that I sometimes decide to paint them, usually satin black.

They aren't bent or warped in any way. The edges are nice and clean. And even the chamfers on the corners are cleanly cut, not ground.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Techno Trousers on Thu, 10 April 2014, 14:25:08
Wow, I can't wait to see mine. I ordered a set of #LEGITBALLIN gold springs, so now I just need to buy  the clear switches and get to moddin'!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: skcheng on Thu, 10 April 2014, 14:43:13
I received my two plates today.   They're really nice.   I'm going to mirror polish the finish on one of mine just for the heck of it.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 10 April 2014, 15:12:00
Mine looks great Strict, thank you very much.  Can't wait to solder this on my filco.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: pexon on Thu, 10 April 2014, 15:20:06
Can't wait to get ours in the EU/UK. Going be painting mine with Plasticoat, don't like it, just peel it off!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 10 April 2014, 21:41:27
Got my two plates today. I am very impressed as well. I mostly agree with what everyone who has received theirs has said above. Mine do have some slight bends in them, but that is not a bid deal. I don't think that can be helped with normal package handling, and it won't take much to bend them straight.

Awesome job strict! To be honest, these cost more than I would have liked for them to, but I see now that your shop does good work.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 11 April 2014, 00:49:53
got my plate

mine was a little bit curved when i got it and it was actually tearing through the packaging and you could tell what it was without lifting the package, but the plate wasnt damaged, easy to bend straight and the manufacturing scratches don't bother me much

the quality is impressive

fits the QFR PCB and QFR Case just fine (there wasnt any doubts to begin with)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3722/13773054514_dba06dda59.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mZ5vg9)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Techno Trousers on Fri, 11 April 2014, 02:01:48
I got my two plates today and they are awesome.

Thanks for running this strict! For everyone else's sake, I hope you consider running a round 2 after you've recovered from this one. If not, I may just keep these pristine as an investment. Just kidding.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 11 April 2014, 02:08:58
Haven't got mine yet.  Hopefully it will get here tomorrow.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 11 April 2014, 22:43:36
Got mine today.  Looks really good.  Had a slight warp to it from being shipped in the envelope, but I got it straightened out.

Thanks again Strict.

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/20140411_232921_LLS.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: n7 on Sat, 12 April 2014, 04:49:45
Got mine in the mail yesterday! looks pretty sweet, and I took apart my FC200R to see if it will line up properly. It looks like I may have to dremel a couple of the mounting holes to get it to sit right in the 200R's case, but otherwise it looks like things will match up nicely :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 13 April 2014, 13:16:27
Plate received! Now to straighten it, paint it, and install it in Scarlett.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 13 April 2014, 13:17:33
I hope mine gets here this week :D  I have the week off and I would love to sort my Filco one day :) :) :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Reckthor on Sun, 13 April 2014, 20:17:00
Got mine the other day. Thanks!

(http://i.imgur.com/NdquQLv.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: DelKey on Sun, 13 April 2014, 20:29:34
My plates came Thursday or Friday- I just picked up the mail today after being away. They look even better than I expected! Good work and thanks so much for sharing this project with us.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 13 April 2014, 21:53:00
My plates came Thursday or Friday- I just picked up the mail today after being away. They look even better than I expected! Good work and thanks so much for sharing this project with us.
Yep, It was just in an envelope and that's all it needed! SS for the win.

I'm 100% satisfied with this plate and just need to figure out what I'm going to use it with. maybe a direct wire KB with standoffs or something. maybe a qfr. maybe phantom. The sky's the limit!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 13 April 2014, 22:38:47
These turned out nice.

Really hope Strict decides to do a round of the V2 design  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: badboybry9000 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 11:38:33
Received mine on Friday! It's beautiful. Thanks Strict. I hope you're able to do something with the extra plates you have.

Also, saw your phantom build on reddit. Nice build!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: nickr on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:44:55
I also got mine today.  Scuffed but straight with clean cuts.  She'll be a beauty once I finish the jdcarpe method of polishing stainless steel.

If anyone's interested, I posted some pics of her: https://plus.google.com/photos/114094639856581800366/albums/6002356721071973169 (https://plus.google.com/photos/114094639856581800366/albums/6002356721071973169)

The thing that strikes me as odd the most, Strict, is that you're nearly a stone's throw away and the post office just now got the plate to me.  At least they didn't lose it.  Thanks for running the group buy and running it efficiently.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:59:30
I also got mine today.  Scuffed but straight with clean cuts.  She'll be a beauty once I finish the jdcarpe method of polishing stainless steel.

If anyone's interested, I posted some pics of her: https://plus.google.com/photos/114094639856581800366/albums/6002356721071973169 (https://plus.google.com/photos/114094639856581800366/albums/6002356721071973169)

The thing that strikes me as odd the most, Strict, is that you're nearly a stone's throw away and the post office just now got the plate to me.  At least they didn't lose it.  Thanks for running the group buy and running it efficiently.

The back of the plates definitely look worse than the front. You can tell which side is the back by the light brown outlining from the laser, the front wont have that and should be a lot less marked up. Since you will never see the backside once its installed I would only worry about sanding/finishing the front. Shipping USPS cant be hit or miss sometimes. Im glad everything got there regardless!

I'm very glad everyone is happy with their plates so far! Keep those pictures coming, I love seeing the plates in their new homes  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 15 April 2014, 05:31:57
Mine arrived today in the UK

Thanks again strict - they look amazing!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 15 April 2014, 13:00:33
If anyone decides they don't want theirs and wants to sell it, please PM me :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 15 April 2014, 13:38:09
strict did have spares - he may still have some :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Tue, 15 April 2014, 15:04:41
Mine arrived today in the UK

Thanks again strict - they look amazing!

Glad to hear it! I was more nervous about the international orders than the others since this was my first adventure shipping overseas.

If anyone decides they don't want theirs and wants to sell it, please PM me :)

The fabricators cut me a few extra plates (3) and I've already sold all of them except one because it has a minor a cosmetic defect. Its a minor defect and does not affect functionality at all but I didn't want to send it out to someone unsuspecting. There is a grove on the front of the plate deep enough to catch your fingernail on between the F1 and F2 keys. Other than that its a totally normal, usable plate. I'll be more than happy to sell it to you if you're still interested in it.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 15 April 2014, 16:55:08
Mine arrived today in the UK

Thanks again strict - they look amazing!

Glad to hear it! I was more nervous about the international orders than the others since this was my first adventure shipping overseas.

If anyone decides they don't want theirs and wants to sell it, please PM me :)

The fabricators cut me a few extra plates (3) and I've already sold all of them except one because it has a minor a cosmetic defect. Its a minor defect and does not affect functionality at all but I didn't want to send it out to someone unsuspecting. There is a grove on the front of the plate deep enough to catch your fingernail on between the F1 and F2 keys. Other than that its a totally normal, usable plate. I'll be more than happy to sell it to you if you're still interested in it.

Yes, thank you! I'll gladly take that.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:01:04
Since this GB seems to be over for now, I want to point out techpriest is selling freshly sanded aluminum ANSI 125 phantom plates (no cutout where the usual CM/Filco/etc controller goes) here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53761.0), in case you made it late to the party and are looking for a plate for your phantom.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 15 April 2014, 18:39:32
Here is my plate.  I'm planning on sanding and painting it.  Thanks strict :thumb:

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Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Wed, 16 April 2014, 08:53:19
Yes, thank you! I'll gladly take that.

Send me a PM with your info and I'll send you a PayPal invoice and get it shipped out (first & last name, shipping address, PayPal email).
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: JayKthnx on Wed, 16 April 2014, 11:54:05
plate arrived. great work strict!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: nickr on Wed, 16 April 2014, 13:50:09
The back of the plates definitely look worse than the front. You can tell which side is the back by the light brown outlining from the laser, the front wont have that and should be a lot less marked up. Since you will never see the backside once its installed I would only worry about sanding/finishing the front. Shipping USPS cant be hit or miss sometimes. Im glad everything got there regardless!

I'm very glad everyone is happy with their plates so far! Keep those pictures coming, I love seeing the plates in their new homes  :thumb:

I'm looking forward to sanding both sides.  It'll be my weekend meditation  ;D  The scuffs don't bother me at all -- only the (local) US Postal Service continues to annoy me but that's not your fault.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 16 April 2014, 14:54:53
Before

(http://i.imgur.com/ShyFAX6.jpg)

Mid-way

(http://imgur.com/foIXzXS.jpg)

Final pics coming tomorrow when it's done :D
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 16 April 2014, 15:32:31
Before

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ShyFAX6.jpg)


Mid-way

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/foIXzXS.jpg)


Final pics coming tomorrow when it's done :D


I like that brushed look...may have to change my mind on painting my plate. Can't wait to see those final pics!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 16 April 2014, 16:05:32
Nice simple sandpaper effect but it's nice :)

To give an alternative view, here's my poker with red plate

(http://i.imgur.com/iKgwAjD.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 17 April 2014, 09:09:44
All finished :D  Lubed, stickered MX Reds are sooo good :)

(http://i.imgur.com/wA6m9JD.jpg)

Thanks again strict!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:35:31
Any chance of another round of these?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 19 April 2014, 05:42:39
Still no sign of my plates :(

@ Strict

Did you send all EU orders on the same day? Because GeorgeK received his plates 4 days ago.

Hopefully they will show on tuesday  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Sat, 19 April 2014, 10:36:34
Still no sign of my plates :(

@ Strict

Did you send all EU orders on the same day? Because GeorgeK received his plates 4 days ago.

Hopefully they will show on tuesday  :thumb:

All orders were shipped on the same day (minus the people who bought left overs). I can't imagine yours will take much longer to arrive.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 19 April 2014, 10:57:39
I received mine yesterday you should get it pretty soon too.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 19 April 2014, 17:56:59
I wanted this but shipping held me back. Might join a round 2.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: PolaBurrr on Mon, 12 May 2014, 11:26:51
Does anybody know if a plate like this would work with the vortex aluminum case? Or would I need plate adapters?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 May 2014, 11:35:33
Does anybody know if a plate like this would work with the vortex aluminum case? Or would I need plate adapters?

It will fit inside the case just fine, but there won't be anything supporting the PCB/Plate to the case. The Vortex case uses a ledge, or shelf, on the front and back inside the case to support the plate by the bends in the original Filco or QFR plate. Since these plates don't have those bends, you will have to use something under the PCB to support it inside the case. A few pieces of modeling clay or sugru will work fine. Or leslieann was selling some 3D printed supports for this purpose.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: PolaBurrr on Mon, 12 May 2014, 12:08:24
Does anybody know if a plate like this would work with the vortex aluminum case? Or would I need plate adapters?

It will fit inside the case just fine, but there won't be anything supporting the PCB/Plate to the case. The Vortex case uses a ledge, or shelf, on the front and back inside the case to support the plate by the bends in the original Filco or QFR plate. Since these plates don't have those bends, you will have to use something under the PCB to support it inside the case. A few pieces of modeling clay or sugru will work fine. Or leslieann was selling some 3D printed supports for this purpose.

ok thanks, thats what i wanted to know, because I want to switch to cherry stabilizers with my filco and vortex case. Where would you put the modeling clay? Between pcb and plate? Or under pcb where it touches the side ledges?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 May 2014, 12:30:10
Where would you put the modeling clay? Between pcb and plate? Or under pcb where it touches the side ledges?

Just under the PCB to support it, probably at the corners and center.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Mon, 12 May 2014, 12:40:28
Does anybody know if a plate like this would work with the vortex aluminum case? Or would I need plate adapters?

It will fit inside the case just fine, but there won't be anything supporting the PCB/Plate to the case. The Vortex case uses a ledge, or shelf, on the front and back inside the case to support the plate by the bends in the original Filco or QFR plate. Since these plates don't have those bends, you will have to use something under the PCB to support it inside the case. A few pieces of modeling clay or sugru will work fine. Or leslieann was selling some 3D printed supports for this purpose.

ok thanks, thats what i wanted to know, because I want to switch to cherry stabilizers with my filco and vortex case. Where would you put the modeling clay? Between pcb and plate? Or under pcb where it touches the side ledges?

Here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46827.0) is the Leslieann thread complete with a few pictures showing where her 3d printed supports were placed.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: PolaBurrr on Mon, 12 May 2014, 20:48:28
Does anybody know if a plate like this would work with the vortex aluminum case? Or would I need plate adapters?

It will fit inside the case just fine, but there won't be anything supporting the PCB/Plate to the case. The Vortex case uses a ledge, or shelf, on the front and back inside the case to support the plate by the bends in the original Filco or QFR plate. Since these plates don't have those bends, you will have to use something under the PCB to support it inside the case. A few pieces of modeling clay or sugru will work fine. Or leslieann was selling some 3D printed supports for this purpose.

ok thanks, thats what i wanted to know, because I want to switch to cherry stabilizers with my filco and vortex case. Where would you put the modeling clay? Between pcb and plate? Or under pcb where it touches the side ledges?

Here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46827.0) is the Leslieann thread complete with a few pictures showing where her 3d printed supports were placed.

I know where adapters would go, but modeling clay is a much more malleable material, and I don't think it would work if that is placed in between the plate and pcb. Most likely stuff it under at random places under the pcb to emulate standoffs.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 12 May 2014, 21:09:29
PolaBurrr, if you are interested, I have a set of those adapters that I will let you have for cost. I never used them. I bought them thinking I was going to get a vortex alu case, but I have decided not to get one after all so now I have these adapters just sitting here. Just pm me if interested.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 12 May 2014, 21:45:38
I PM'd Leslieann earlier today to see if she had any left. 

I'm hoping she does because I wasn't even thinking about needing something like that for a Vortex case.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Salisen on Fri, 16 May 2014, 13:36:54
Just wanted to note: if ever you start selling ISO Plates, I'd be interested in buying one (or two).
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 16 May 2014, 13:42:59
I PM'd Leslieann earlier today to see if she had any left. 

I'm hoping she does because I wasn't even thinking about needing something like that for a Vortex case.
I have an extra one. Margon is putting mine in the Keycool that's in my Sig and I just got another TKL in the mail today. Two of those should be enough. :P
Shoot me a PM if you want one.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: n7 on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:30:06
This is probably a shot in the dark at this point, but did anyone buy an extra plate they didn't end up using? Mine ended up being defective. I returned it to strict and he gave me a refund (thanks for that, by the way)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:32:50
This is probably a shot in the dark at this point, but did anyone buy an extra plate they didn't end up using? Mine ended up being defective. I returned it to strict and he gave me a refund (thanks for that, by the way)

What was wrong with it?

I'd buy it off him if it wasn't too bad
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: whiskytango on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:36:28
This is probably a shot in the dark at this point, but did anyone buy an extra plate they didn't end up using? Mine ended up being defective. I returned it to strict and he gave me a refund (thanks for that, by the way)

You're in luck. I did buy an extra that I am not using. PM me and we'll sort out the details.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: n7 on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:42:36
This is probably a shot in the dark at this point, but did anyone buy an extra plate they didn't end up using? Mine ended up being defective. I returned it to strict and he gave me a refund (thanks for that, by the way)

What was wrong with it?

I'd buy it off him if it wasn't too bad
strict mentioned that he would be taking it back to the shop to get a refund from them, so I'm not sure if that would be an option. However, this is quoted verbatim from the message I sent strict:
It looks like something messed up the plate during the cutting process, because one of the mounting holes is actually a little stunted. I can't even fit a switch into this mounting hole on the board: http://i.imgur.com/cgFNxoM.jpg

In addition to this, the switch mounts below and to the left of this one appear to be shifted down slightly: http://i.imgur.com/21VZ8IH.jpg

Because of the offset of the switch mounts on the left side of the plate, I couldn't even mount it to my PCB with only the four corner switches attached (I could try, but the PCB would bend some or one of the switches would end up sitting at an angle that would prevent it from even operating properly)

I had also already taken a dremel to some of the mounting holes to get it to fit in my FC200R's case (but this was minor, really just widening a couple of the existing holes)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: n7 on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:44:10
This is probably a shot in the dark at this point, but did anyone buy an extra plate they didn't end up using? Mine ended up being defective. I returned it to strict and he gave me a refund (thanks for that, by the way)

You're in luck. I did buy an extra that I am not using. PM me and we'll sort out the details.
Awesome, thanks. sent you a PM  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:52:17
Aw, yea, he probably gave it to them in order to get the refund.


And luck you. Was looking to get a plate as well.

Glad you were able to get an extra one off whiskytango
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 16 May 2014, 17:10:18
I PM'd Leslieann earlier today to see if she had any left. 

I'm hoping she does because I wasn't even thinking about needing something like that for a Vortex case.
I have an extra one. Margon is putting mine in the Keycool that's in my Sig and I just got another TKL in the mail today. Two of those should be enough. :P
Shoot me a PM if you want one.

I have a plate.  I was talking about the plate adapters that Leslieann makes to make uTKL plates fit in the aluminum Vortex cases.

Thanks though :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: IonutZ on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:20:14
Always late :( I'm really interested in one if anyone's planning on selling theirs or someone has an extra... can't believe I missed it again :[
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 19 June 2014, 17:09:47
I have a spare one. Bit I live in The Netherlands so shipping might be expensive.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: digiosia on Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:13:43
Looking to buy a plate, I live in Canada and am willing to cover shipping costs for the most part.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: retrochick on Sat, 23 August 2014, 12:47:24
Looking for a plate as well. I'm in the US. Please let me know if you have one available. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 23 August 2014, 12:56:50
Looking for a plate as well. I'm in the US. Please let me know if you have one available. Thanks!

Strict currently runs Round 2 for this plates!

Check the GB section  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Sat, 23 August 2014, 13:10:22
Looking for a plate as well. I'm in the US. Please let me know if you have one available. Thanks!

Strict currently runs Round 2 for this plates!

Check the GB section  :thumb:

The plates from this thread are different than the Phantom ones I'm currently selling. Phantom plates will not fit on on boards where the controller is on the top (Filco, QFR, Ducky, etc). uTKL plates will work with the Phantom PCB but Phantom plates will not fit on most mass-produced TKL PCB's.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: henz on Thu, 02 October 2014, 03:17:11
a Round 2 running anytime soon? :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Arcoril on Thu, 02 October 2014, 11:08:29
Crossing my fingers for a round 2 as well. :)

Strict currently has his hands full with the Phantom plate GB, so we'll have to wait at least until that gets wrapped up before he can gauge interest. Keep an eye on the IC forum!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: DzyDzyDino on Wed, 08 October 2014, 10:07:20
I would also be interested in a round 2. (And for 60% or 75% sizes!)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: clacktalk on Tue, 28 July 2015, 18:19:22
NECROI'M DESPERATE

r2 pls
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: strict on Tue, 28 July 2015, 18:21:42

NECROI'M DESPERATE

r2 pls

If there's enough interest I would consider getting the ball rolling on another group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: clacktalk on Tue, 28 July 2015, 18:37:31


NECROI'M DESPERATE

r2 pls

If there's enough interest I would consider getting the ball rolling on another group buy.

bless you, mister.

you are a kind person
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Tue, 28 July 2015, 18:40:29

NECROI'M DESPERATE

r2 pls

If there's enough interest I would consider getting the ball rolling on another group buy.

I am also very interested. 
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: honoka on Sat, 01 August 2015, 18:27:58
Strong interest for these plates in ISO. Need 5 of them :P
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: Karura on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:09:42
Strict, there is definitely enough interest. I need one of these, please :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 04:44:38
Very interested uTKL plate. Hope you run both.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless steel universal TKL plates (ANSI 125)
Post by: jchou on Sat, 02 July 2016, 08:50:57
Strict :Is it possible to have GB run on 2016?
I will need 3 pices of this plate.
Thanks
Jchou