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Offline DarkShot

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Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« on: Sat, 27 October 2012, 23:04:39 »
So I just found this neat project on Kickstarter called the 'Minion', a wireless enabled dev board.

It seems like it'd be something easy to add to a keyboard for easy wireless functionality.

Anyone here who knows howto program shed some light on this? I'd love to make a wireless Poker for shiggles and giggles but can't into programming very well.

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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 27 October 2012, 23:19:50 »
Well, then you'd have to figure out how to power it. The keyboard will need additional circuitry for batteries.
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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 27 October 2012, 23:22:51 »
/sigh... I hate how Kickstarter has all the badass stuff that I want now!
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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 27 October 2012, 23:36:40 »
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 October 2012, 23:19:50
Well, then you'd have to figure out how to power it. The keyboard will need additional circuitry for batteries.

Already thought that one out. Right off the top of my head I'm sure there are aftermarket rechargeable batteries in a thin enough size to fit underneath the PCB with some slight modifications to the case. The batteries would be charged by USB while it's plugged in for wired use and the wireless board would run off of the same batteries when not plugged in. There are cheap overcharge protection units that are small and could be of use, and a simple flick of a switch would turn the keyboard and radio board on when not plugged in. Another method to do it would have it completely wireless, and have the USB cable only there for charging.

I just wanted to know if it was something feasible to do on the programming side. It seems like it'd be relatively simple in comparison to other methods attempted.
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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 27 October 2012, 23:38:11 »
The Teensy is a ATMega32U4, the same processor as Minion, so the code would be compatible with Biphany's work for the most part.
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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 27 October 2012, 23:39:49 »
Quote from: SmallFry on Sat, 27 October 2012, 23:38:11
The Teensy is a ATMega32U4, the same processor as Minion, so the code would be compatible with Biphany's work for the most part.

That would require a lot of work. I'm not looking at it as rewiring the controller, but using the two minions as a wireless bridge between the computer and keyboard.
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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 27 October 2012, 23:40:44 »
Well, then... erm...Not sure since this is capable of being a full controller replacement.
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Offline __red__

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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 28 October 2012, 08:24:07 »
Waaay too expensive.

http://imall.iteadstudio.com/wireless/im120606002.html

$3.20 per tranceiver.
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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 28 October 2012, 22:11:59 »
Could tear down and install one of these, just make openings for LEDs and charging.

http://handheldsci.com/kb
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Re: Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 28 October 2012, 22:33:09 »
Quote from: 0100010 on Sun, 28 October 2012, 22:11:59
Could tear down and install one of these, just make openings for LEDs and charging.

http://handheldsci.com/kb

Wow that looks awesome

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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 28 October 2012, 23:26:54 »
Quote from: 0100010 on Sun, 28 October 2012, 22:11:59
Could tear down and install one of these, just make openings for LEDs and charging.

http://handheldsci.com/kb

That's awesome. It'd be much easier than the way I was gonna do it.

Screw getting the keyboard case with a Microsoft Surface, lemme just whip out my bluetooth'd Poker :D
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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 29 October 2012, 20:02:04 »
If you want Bluetooth, Bluegiga WT12 module is one of good options.
iWRAP firmware contain HID support which will make your dev easy.
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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 01 November 2012, 19:04:19 »
Quote from: SmallFry on Sat, 27 October 2012, 23:40:44
Well, then... erm...Not sure since this is capable of being a full controller replacement.
Only 6 pins are analog IO.

There's a lot of good information here! I would really like to make my IBM selectric wireless. I can probably fit 4 D cells in there pretty easily, so powering it will be cake.

I was looking into this earlier. I know that bluetooth modules are pretty cheap (like the one above) but to be honest, I'm not really familiar with it to just make it work. How are the data packets handled? How do I make the computer detect that it's a keyboard? I'd rather have RF, personally.

Quote from: 0100010 on Sun, 28 October 2012, 22:11:59
Could tear down and install one of these, just make openings for LEDs and charging.

http://handheldsci.com/kb
Wow, looks good, but UGH, it's $59? That's almost as bad as the QIDO (which is great, but also overpriced, IMO)
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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 02 November 2012, 14:12:35 »
wow, it's to expenlsive
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Re: Easy way to convert wired to wireless?
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 02 November 2012, 18:45:14 »
Bad price!? oh, my! You guys are so picky :)

I don't think it is expensive at all. I know DIY requires more my time and money.
I'll be happy to pay that if my keyboard is a battle ship and can hold it inside.
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