Post by: Emir on Sun, 20 January 2019, 09:50:57
A big thank you to Janglad for rendering Linjär in a keyboard!
(https://i.imgur.com/rgHarqI.jpg)
Linjär is a linear switch which will be manufactured by Gateron, which aims to be as smooth as a Gateron yellow, offered in Swedish themed housing- and stem colors.
It started out as a meme in the swedish community, and turned in to something much bigger! We are happy to bring this switch to ourselves and to everyone else interested!
It will be limited to 1 production run ONLY.
Switch information for Linjär:
Manufacturer: Gateron
Housing Pantone 301 C, Stem Pantone 116 C (official pantones for the flag of Sweden)
Type: Linear (LINJÄR)
Weight: 65cN bottom out, gold plated spring
Factory lubed: Yes, slightly
Pricing per switch: 0.35USD~ EU, 0.36USD US
For EU, sold in packs of 90 or 120; US will be able to buy in increments of 10
MOQ: 20000 switches
-- This switch is non-profit, which is why the price is kept low. The pricing is simply Gaterons quote + import fees and logistics from the proxies. It is a community project, and no one who was part of making this happen from the Swedish community will earn anything from this GB. Switches sold after the 20k mark will result in a few cents profit per switch. This microscopic profit will go to the proxies for assisting us and being kind and offering to do this non-profit as well. With this, we feel we are true to the non-profit spirit. --
Additional renders:
(https://i.imgur.com/wupQaPm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Qzoew5x.jpg)
By KBDFans:
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(https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/134583372/O1CN01jGPL5x1amQ1tZlfD8_!!134583372.jpg)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/files/1_863fa33c-cb3c-44c0-aab0-7d7384480ec7.jpg?v=1548581852)
The GB will be open for orders starting January 21st, running until February 20th (end of Chinese new year). The production time is expected to take 15 days.
Proxies:
EU - Mykeyboard.eu - https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/linjar-switch_136/
US - Novelkeys - https://novelkeys.xyz/products/linjar-switch-gb
Asia+worldwide - KBDFans - https://kbdfans.cn/products/gb-linjar-custom-linear-switch
Link to the IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99021.0
Post by: Signature on Sun, 20 January 2019, 11:03:14
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Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 20 January 2019, 11:46:51
Approved o lycka till!
I always forget you're a Swede
Glwgb
Post by: mgsickler on Sun, 20 January 2019, 11:59:03
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Post by: Emir on Sun, 20 January 2019, 12:39:01
Any idea of how the switch will compare to other linears like gateron yellow and tealio?
As we couldn't front the money, we do not have samples. However, Gateron confirms these will be as smooth as Gateron Yellows, and be similar in feel. Gateron also confirms the housing will be in Nylon (dat deep sound signature!) and according to our other specifications, including the pantones.
Post by: Smoff on Sun, 20 January 2019, 12:45:10
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Post by: Signature on Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:18:04
Post by: Smoff on Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:29:23
Any plans of running these linear switches in the superior danish colorway?Gotta be a clicky switch in that case
Post by: Emir on Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:51:11
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Post by: Noxygen on Sun, 20 January 2019, 17:50:26
Post by: dhb82 on Sun, 20 January 2019, 18:22:24
My first group buy :D Can't wait to use these as I am learning to solder :P I have some Red Pandas coming for my first build and I hope to use these in the future
If you want to make some Holy pandas, you need another switch to build it. Not to rain on your parade.
Post by: Noxygen on Sun, 20 January 2019, 18:26:08
My first group buy :D Can't wait to use these as I am learning to solder :P I have some Red Pandas coming for my first build and I hope to use these in the future
If you want to make some Holy pandas, you need another switch to build it. Not to rain on your parade.
Oh no I'm just using the Red Pandas as it :) I'm new to switches outside of Cherry and Box Heavy switches. Are holy pandas really good?
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 20 January 2019, 18:38:43
Post by: MMKB on Sun, 20 January 2019, 18:56:51
Post by: Gati on Sun, 20 January 2019, 18:59:05
Post by: OfTheWild on Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:00:56
Post by: otanishock on Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:03:37
Are holy pandas really good?People don't call it holy for no reason :cool:
Post by: Noxygen on Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:09:48
Are holy pandas really good?People don't call it holy for no reason :cool:
Oh :P do you know where I can get the other switches to make holy pandas? I think I saw some switch named panda on massdrop a bit ago but idk if those are the right ones :)
Post by: Gati on Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:38:32
Oh :P do you know where I can get the other switches to make holy pandas? I think I saw some switch named panda on massdrop a bit ago but idk if those are the right ones :)You need Halo stems and a Panda (or clone) housing... Gsus and YOK Reds are supposedly really close to OG panda housing
If you don't wanna go through the trouble, buying Zealios v2 or KBD T1 are really close to OG panda tactility (if not arguably better)
Post by: Noxygen on Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:41:45
Oh :P do you know where I can get the other switches to make holy pandas? I think I saw some switch named panda on massdrop a bit ago but idk if those are the right ones :)You need Halo stems and a Panda (or clone) housing... Gsus and YOK Reds are supposedly really close to OG panda housing
If you don't wanna go through the trouble, buying Zealios v2 or KBD T1 are really close to OG panda tactility (if not arguably better)
Oh okay :) thanks
Post by: click clack jack on Sun, 20 January 2019, 21:24:03
Post by: Emir on Mon, 21 January 2019, 02:39:21
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Post by: Lyle88 on Mon, 21 January 2019, 05:25:15
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Post by: Emir on Mon, 21 January 2019, 05:38:16
Are these PCB mount?
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Yes, as seen in the renders.
Post by: vewy_nice on Mon, 21 January 2019, 08:22:40
I know people like them to make "uber tactile" nonsense or whatever, but it's cool for me, too... an avid linear fan. I'm typing on linear converted outemu skies right now haha
Post by: Zeimus on Tue, 22 January 2019, 02:12:23
Post by: Emir on Tue, 22 January 2019, 15:07:50
Thanks everyone, we are very humbled by the response!
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 22 January 2019, 15:12:01
Hi Everyone, I am happy to announce that we've already hit MOQ - this switch is happening! GB runs until 20th of February, so make sure to get your orders in for this one limited run!
Thanks everyone, we are very humbled by the response!
super!
Post by: Ashardalon on Wed, 23 January 2019, 00:07:41
Hi Everyone, I am happy to announce that we've already hit MOQ - this switch is happening! GB runs until 20th of February, so make sure to get your orders in for this one limited run!
Thanks everyone, we are very humbled by the response!
Girlfriend and I are in for 70 each! Very excited to get it; makes me want to build a board with GMK Hammerhead when it comes out :)
Post by: pandemic123 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 00:15:15
Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 01:37:27
can someone explain what's special about these - sorry just not familiar with the background hereIt's recolored gat yellow with nylon housing.
It looks nice.
Post by: HomerSp on Wed, 23 January 2019, 05:32:04
Post by: Emir on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:20:09
can someone explain what's special about these - sorry just not familiar with the background here
Pretty much what Starston3 posted, in addition to the price being attractive. Treat your keyboards with this glorious swedish colorscheme! :)
As MOQ has been reached, I will ask for weekly updates from NK and mykeeb.eu and let everyone know. Not much point in daily updates since we do not need to track MOQ - if you buy these switches now, you will receive them. Me and the rest of the swedish community are beyond excited!
Thanks again for making this happen everyone!
Post by: Emir on Sun, 27 January 2019, 04:38:45
They also did some additional renders without me even asking for it:
(https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/134583372/O1CN01AZw4341amQ1v5Fjdz_!!134583372.jpg)
(https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/134583372/O1CN01PEqIHm1amQ1qRrH8r_!!134583372.jpg)
(https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/134583372/O1CN01jGPL5x1amQ1tZlfD8_!!134583372.jpg)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/files/1_863fa33c-cb3c-44c0-aab0-7d7384480ec7.jpg?v=1548581852)
https://kbdfans.cn/products/gb-linjar-custom-linear-switch
Post by: Lyle88 on Mon, 28 January 2019, 05:20:45
Good news Everyone! KBDFans has offered to Proxy for Asia, and well - the rest of the world as well!Yayyy!
They also did some additional renders without me even asking for it:Show Image(https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/134583372/O1CN01AZw4341amQ1v5Fjdz_!!134583372.jpg)Show Image(https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/134583372/O1CN01PEqIHm1amQ1qRrH8r_!!134583372.jpg)Show Image(https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/134583372/O1CN01jGPL5x1amQ1tZlfD8_!!134583372.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/files/1_863fa33c-cb3c-44c0-aab0-7d7384480ec7.jpg?v=1548581852)
https://kbdfans.cn/products/gb-linjar-custom-linear-switch
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Post by: Emir on Wed, 30 January 2019, 05:38:07
NK: over 16K
Mykeyboard.eu: Over 10k
KBDFans: 1300~
I imagine it will stay pretty slow until the last couple of days before the GB ends, but so far we are very satisfied with the numbers! I was worried we wouldn't meet MOQ, but support has been great! :)
Post by: leece3 on Wed, 30 January 2019, 12:06:17
And second, any disadvantage if I still wanted to lube it with something else?
Post by: schlep on Thu, 31 January 2019, 08:44:55
Slightly factory lubed? Anyone care to elaborate? I guess this is not its main selling point, but there are not many factory lubed switches around. That would make it even smoother than stock Gateron linears.. not? Shouldn't that make it quite special in itself, like Tealios with the sound of retooled Cherrys, but with a price point below Cherrys? Missing something?
And second, any disadvantage if I still wanted to lube it with something else?
I want to know about this too. Is this simply Gateron Yellows with a different housing?
I've used Gateron Yellows before and I didn't enjoy how stiff the switch felt. I enjoyed using he Tealios though. Is this switch somewhere in between?
Post by: mgsickler on Thu, 31 January 2019, 09:58:27
Slightly factory lubed? Anyone care to elaborate? I guess this is not its main selling point, but there are not many factory lubed switches around. That would make it even smoother than stock Gateron linears.. not? Shouldn't that make it quite special in itself, like Tealios with the sound of retooled Cherrys, but with a price point below Cherrys? Missing something?
And second, any disadvantage if I still wanted to lube it with something else?
I want to know about this too. Is this simply Gateron Yellows with a different housing?
I've used Gateron Yellows before and I didn't enjoy how stiff the switch felt. I enjoyed using he Tealios though. Is this switch somewhere in between?
Almost all switches are slightly factory lubed. Typically on the legs of the stem.
Post by: Emir on Thu, 31 January 2019, 13:46:59
Slightly factory lubed? Anyone care to elaborate? I guess this is not its main selling point, but there are not many factory lubed switches around. That would make it even smoother than stock Gateron linears.. not? Shouldn't that make it quite special in itself, like Tealios with the sound of retooled Cherrys, but with a price point below Cherrys? Missing something?
And second, any disadvantage if I still wanted to lube it with something else?
As mgsickler mentioned, most switches are lubed - but we specifically asked for the same amount as Gateron Yellows - which is very slight (and inconsistent in Gat yellows...) This will still allow for lubing of your own, right on top of it without having to remove it - it's that slight.
The sound signature will be similar to cherry nylon housings, if not identical. I can't recall which exact nylon composition cherry uses, but these will be Nylon 66 - which should produce that deep clack sound signature that black housings are known for.
Post by: leece3 on Fri, 01 February 2019, 05:21:36
Post by: Emir on Mon, 04 February 2019, 17:07:24
NK: 19k
Mykeyboard.eu:12k
KBDFans: 3.6k
Looking great, and surprisingly, murricans' support our nation colors more than we do ourselves! :))
Post by: Janne on Mon, 04 February 2019, 17:12:28
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 February 2019, 17:30:16
Two weeks in update with numbers:
NK: 19k
Mykeyboard.eu:12k
KBDFans: 3.6k
Looking great, and surprisingly, murricans' support our nation colors more than we do ourselves! :))
Let's go!
Post by: Capsy on Tue, 05 February 2019, 10:38:23
Two weeks in update with numbers:
NK: 19k
Mykeyboard.eu:12k
KBDFans: 3.6k
Looking great, and surprisingly, murricans' support our nation colors more than we do ourselves! :))
We all Zlatan.
Post by: Emir on Wed, 06 February 2019, 03:51:11
Post by: dorf on Sat, 09 February 2019, 11:58:49
Post by: ctrl on Sat, 09 February 2019, 12:11:09
The sound signature will be similar to cherry nylon housings, if not identical. I can't recall which exact nylon composition cherry uses, but these will be Nylon 66 - which should produce that deep clack sound signature that black housings are known for.
Precis vad jag hoppades på! :thumb:
In for 90x. Will mod for the a e s t h e t i c s.
Post by: Emir on Mon, 11 February 2019, 07:22:16
Mykeyboard: 13k
KBDFans: 7,2k
Novelkeys: 20k
Over double MOQ sold, and I suspect that sales will pick back up towards the end of the GB (as per usual in GBs!).
Hype!
Post by: Emir on Wed, 13 February 2019, 09:16:21
Post by: wellbeing44 on Wed, 13 February 2019, 09:29:42
Post by: Emir on Mon, 18 February 2019, 01:08:29
Post by: kakiharaOne on Mon, 18 February 2019, 08:56:40
Thanks for making this happen!
Post by: ian13 on Mon, 18 February 2019, 09:10:55
Post by: LeoShi on Mon, 18 February 2019, 09:18:43
Post by: Emir on Mon, 18 February 2019, 09:27:54
The housing is the same as the new retooled cherry blacks, right? I'm just wondering if it will also reduce the typical gateron wobble?
Sorry, but I can't confirm either. I do not know what exact nylon composition cherry uses, but these switches will be nylon 66. As for wobble, I can't tell without samples I'm afraid.
Post by: ARSLOCK on Mon, 18 February 2019, 10:05:38
Post by: Emir on Tue, 19 February 2019, 01:13:39
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 19 February 2019, 02:49:42
Thank you for the support once again! Only a day left now, and I am in talks with all proxies and Gateron to push this to everyones home ASAP!
Thanks!
Perhaps about the wobble too - I know running a GB based on color is different from fixing and tweaking the housing mold, but I’m just hoping.
Post by: ttot on Tue, 19 February 2019, 15:02:35
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Post by: Emir on Wed, 20 February 2019, 08:19:20
Post by: OracleKev on Wed, 20 February 2019, 08:22:47
Post by: Emir on Thu, 21 February 2019, 02:59:53
The GB purchase period has concluded, with the following numbers:
KBDFans: 19150 sold
Mykeyboard.eu: 18090 sold
NovelKeys: 35000 sold
Grand total 72240. This number is insane, I was thinking we would struggle to even reach MOQ of 20k.
We now move on to purchasing the switches and production, I will keep you up to date as always with any update!
Post by: ctrl on Thu, 21 February 2019, 03:17:39
Hello Everyone,
The GB purchase period has concluded, with the following numbers:
KBDFans: 19150 sold
Mykeyboard.eu: 18090 sold
NovelKeys: 35000 sold
Grand total 72240. This number is insane, I was thinking we would struggle to even reach MOQ of 20k.
We now move on to purchasing the switches and production, I will keep you up to date as always with any update!
Grattis och bra jobbat! :thumb:
It's the power of the memes. I predict an onslaught of blue frankenswitches in the time to come. ;)
Also, Gat Yellow smoothness, Gateron nylon housings... there's a lot of interesting things going on with this switch. Really looking forward to it.
Post by: Emir on Thu, 21 February 2019, 03:21:43
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 21 February 2019, 10:13:26
I have also asked for Gateron to show me samples of the plastic before massproduction, to make sure it is according to the pantones. It won't be perfect as I can't inspect in person, but yeah - better than hoping in the blind. :D
Is this using the same magic spring as gat yellow? Or just similar in bottom out?
Post by: Emir on Thu, 21 February 2019, 10:52:01
I have also asked for Gateron to show me samples of the plastic before massproduction, to make sure it is according to the pantones. It won't be perfect as I can't inspect in person, but yeah - better than hoping in the blind. :D
Is this using the same magic spring as gat yellow? Or just similar in bottom out?
While in contact with Gateron, I only specified gold plated spring with the desired bottom out weight - so I do not know if it's the same as a Gateron yellow or not I'm afraid.
Post by: Geroximo on Thu, 21 February 2019, 12:09:40
Post by: Rubbermilitia on Thu, 21 February 2019, 12:44:11
I have also asked for Gateron to show me samples of the plastic before massproduction, to make sure it is according to the pantones. It won't be perfect as I can't inspect in person, but yeah - better than hoping in the blind. :D
Is this using the same magic spring as gat yellow? Or just similar in bottom out?
Would also like to know this
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 21 February 2019, 13:20:57
Post by: Emir on Thu, 21 February 2019, 13:24:07
Is 65cN bottom out the same as 65g springs?
Most springs are measured at bottom out, and cN will equal what you understand as "g".
Gram is not a correct term of measuring force, it is a weight - centinewton is a more correct term when speaking about force. :)
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 21 February 2019, 16:34:30
Post by: Emir on Sun, 24 February 2019, 07:53:02
Update:
The 25th (tomorrow) Gateron will ship me sample switches using DHL Express, so let's hope I get them fast. I asked for some photos, but this might be better. I will make sure to give some thorough feedback here once I get them.
Payment is underway, to my understanding no vendor has paid yet but Gateron has their information for invoicing and vendors are in touch with Gateron. I will let you know whenever any development happens on that end.
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 24 February 2019, 14:25:42
I'm no spring expert, but do gateron yellows not have some special property where they're perfectly linear and everything else is a bit exponential (or the other way around, I don't remember specifics beyond the fact it's unique)
It's more the slope of the force curve.
Pulled up from an old post:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZlUZ4Z2.png)
Post by: wellbeing44 on Mon, 25 February 2019, 00:38:24
So it has a higher preload with lower spring coefficient. I can see how that would feel "more linear" to some people.I'm no spring expert, but do gateron yellows not have some special property where they're perfectly linear and everything else is a bit exponential (or the other way around, I don't remember specifics beyond the fact it's unique)
It's more the slope of the force curve.
Pulled up from an old post:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZlUZ4Z2.png)
Post by: Emir on Mon, 25 February 2019, 02:23:18
Post by: ctrl on Mon, 25 February 2019, 03:44:51
I will have tealios, gat yellows, retooled blacks and vintage blacks to compare the Linjär switches to. I will try different lubes, too, and compare feel and sound among these.
Sounds great! In particular interested in differences in wobble/house tightness and sound profile.
Post by: Emir on Mon, 25 February 2019, 07:26:17
It could be a bedroom condition type of thing, but it doesn't seem to match pantones, and also, it's plate mount.
(https://i.imgur.com/J2cXZyH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sCHJGGE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hgKseua.jpg)
It could be poor photos, but it seems too extreme in the colors (too bright).
Gateron offered to make new samples, but it'll take a week. I rather delay with a week and have this one limited production run done right, than rush it and disappoint everyone (mostly ourselves in the Swedish community).
Sorry, and let's hope the new samples are on point!
Post by: Rubbermilitia on Mon, 25 February 2019, 08:33:01
Ok, so Gateron send me images of the samples they were about to send me, and unfortunately I didn't like it.
It could be a bedroom condition type of thing, but it doesn't seem to match pantones, and also, it's plate mount.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J2cXZyH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sCHJGGE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hgKseua.jpg)
It could be poor photos, but it seems too extreme in the colors (too bright).
Gateron offered to make new samples, but it'll take a week. I rather delay with a week and have this one limited production run done right, than rush it and disappoint everyone (mostly ourselves in the Swedish community).
Sorry, and let's hope the new samples are on point!
Completely agreed, those look like Little Tykes switches, way too saturated. Waiting patiently for new samples.
Post by: Emir on Mon, 25 February 2019, 08:50:19
Post by: etong415 on Mon, 25 February 2019, 10:07:33
I don't want a Necro on our hands, I will be sending sample switches to two Swedes that have access to the whole Pantone catalogues for both to double (literally) check the colors. One of them has access to good photography equipment too, I will be sure to update.The colors are off, but how does the feel compare to what you were expecting?
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Post by: Emir on Mon, 25 February 2019, 10:09:44
I don't want a Necro on our hands, I will be sending sample switches to two Swedes that have access to the whole Pantone catalogues for both to double (literally) check the colors. One of them has access to good photography equipment too, I will be sure to update.The colors are off, but how does the feel compare to what you were expecting?
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Photos are by gateron, not in my posession yet. They were set to ship today, but I rejected it based on photos. Gateron has acknowledged that they're too bright and saturated, and will tone them down and make them darker in accordance to pantones. Also, they will make them PCB mount.
Post by: The_Royal on Mon, 25 February 2019, 10:19:09
Ok, so Gateron send me images of the samples they were about to send me, and unfortunately I didn't like it.
It could be a bedroom condition type of thing, but it doesn't seem to match pantones, and also, it's plate mount.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J2cXZyH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sCHJGGE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hgKseua.jpg)
It could be poor photos, but it seems too extreme in the colors (too bright).
Gateron offered to make new samples, but it'll take a week. I rather delay with a week and have this one limited production run done right, than rush it and disappoint everyone (mostly ourselves in the Swedish community).
Sorry, and let's hope the new samples are on point!
Completely agreed, those look like Little Tykes switches, way too saturated. Waiting patiently for new samples.
Why do I want a Run of Gateron "Fisher-Price" Switches now?....lol
Post by: etong415 on Mon, 25 February 2019, 10:37:41
Ah thanks for the clarificationI don't want a Necro on our hands, I will be sending sample switches to two Swedes that have access to the whole Pantone catalogues for both to double (literally) check the colors. One of them has access to good photography equipment too, I will be sure to update.The colors are off, but how does the feel compare to what you were expecting?
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Photos are by gateron, not in my posession yet. They were set to ship today, but I rejected it based on photos. Gateron has acknowledged that they're too bright and saturated, and will tone them down and make them darker in accordance to pantones. Also, they will make them PCB mount.
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 25 February 2019, 13:25:13
Less Fisher Price and more SKRATTAR DU
Post by: Regret on Mon, 25 February 2019, 13:26:52
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 25 February 2019, 15:13:24
So it has a higher preload with lower spring coefficient. I can see how that would feel "more linear" to some people.I'm no spring expert, but do gateron yellows not have some special property where they're perfectly linear and everything else is a bit exponential (or the other way around, I don't remember specifics beyond the fact it's unique)
It's more the slope of the force curve.
Pulled up from an old post:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZlUZ4Z2.png)
Ah, this is interesting. I'll have to ask sprit what his lowest m and highest b spring is (mx+b) and try it in these.
Post by: Emir on Tue, 26 February 2019, 06:04:55
(https://i.imgur.com/9XZBVFA.jpg)
I've asked Gateron to take photos next to a pantone sample book, if they have one, to get a better understanding of the colors. If they look similar to the pantones on the photo, then it's fine if our screens show a different color than expected (for example, lighting, image processing, uncalibrated screens etc) - it would be good enough to have samples sent here to us in Sweden to do some comparisons of our own.
I could ask them to send every round of samples here as basing something on photos is just dumb, but that'd delay by weeks. I'd rather have samples that appear to be CLOSE to the pantones sent here rather than reject samples every other week until it's correct.
Post by: ctrl on Tue, 26 February 2019, 06:19:58
New sample round with photos from gateron, definitely better but it's impossible to judge by photos.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/9XZBVFA.jpg)
I've asked Gateron to take photos next to a pantone sample book, if they have one, to get a better understanding of the colors. If they look similar to the pantones on the photo, then it's fine if our screens show a different color than expected (for example, lighting, image processing, uncalibrated screens etc) - it would be good enough to have samples sent here to us in Sweden to do some comparisons of our own.
I could ask them to send every round of samples here as basing something on photos is just dumb, but that'd delay by weeks. I'd rather have samples that appear to be CLOSE to the pantones sent here rather than reject samples every other week until it's correct.
It's a limited run. You have specfic features in mind. Let it take the time necessary to achieve them. After all, in this hobby waiting for a SA keyset can take quite some time. Waiting a week here or there for these switches is nothing. Better they end up the way you envision them. :thumb:
Post by: Emir on Tue, 26 February 2019, 06:22:12
New sample round with photos from gateron, definitely better but it's impossible to judge by photos.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/9XZBVFA.jpg)
I've asked Gateron to take photos next to a pantone sample book, if they have one, to get a better understanding of the colors. If they look similar to the pantones on the photo, then it's fine if our screens show a different color than expected (for example, lighting, image processing, uncalibrated screens etc) - it would be good enough to have samples sent here to us in Sweden to do some comparisons of our own.
I could ask them to send every round of samples here as basing something on photos is just dumb, but that'd delay by weeks. I'd rather have samples that appear to be CLOSE to the pantones sent here rather than reject samples every other week until it's correct.
It's a limited run. You have specfic features in mind. Let it take the time necessary to achieve them. After all, in this hobby waiting for a SA keyset can take quite some time. Waiting a week here or there for these switches is nothing. Better they end up the way you envision them. :thumb:
We are doing our best to deliver on our vision, we will get there! :) Thank you for the kind words!
Post by: wellbeing44 on Tue, 26 February 2019, 06:25:06
Good save, it's easy to just let it pass but you did the right thing :thumb:I don't want a Necro on our hands, I will be sending sample switches to two Swedes that have access to the whole Pantone catalogues for both to double (literally) check the colors. One of them has access to good photography equipment too, I will be sure to update.The colors are off, but how does the feel compare to what you were expecting?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Photos are by gateron, not in my posession yet. They were set to ship today, but I rejected it based on photos. Gateron has acknowledged that they're too bright and saturated, and will tone them down and make them darker in accordance to pantones. Also, they will make them PCB mount.
Post by: Starius on Tue, 26 February 2019, 07:45:28
Post by: Emir on Tue, 26 February 2019, 08:17:34
(https://i.imgur.com/q0IyTY2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zj0oZ5G.jpg)
Got samples next to the pantone, it looks close enough in these shots. I will ask Gateron to send me these for review.
Post by: HomerSp on Tue, 26 February 2019, 08:23:08
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 26 February 2019, 08:24:06
Post by: Emir on Tue, 26 February 2019, 08:26:22
Me and some other swedes will do individual comparisons to other popular linears, both feel and sound wise, lubed and unlubed.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 26 February 2019, 09:57:09
Yeah, exposure isn't the best on the photos, but we got to keep in mind they are matching plastic to paper. Honestly, it won't be a 100% perfect match, it's a meme switch with a meme color - if it's very close then we will accept it. Let's see what they're like when they arrive! :)
Me and some other swedes will do individual comparisons to other popular linears, both feel and sound wise, lubed and unlubed.
If these things sound like cherrys and feel as smooth as gat yellows, I think you win the linear game, sven.
Post by: Emir on Tue, 26 February 2019, 10:04:13
Yeah, exposure isn't the best on the photos, but we got to keep in mind they are matching plastic to paper. Honestly, it won't be a 100% perfect match, it's a meme switch with a meme color - if it's very close then we will accept it. Let's see what they're like when they arrive! :)
Me and some other swedes will do individual comparisons to other popular linears, both feel and sound wise, lubed and unlubed.
If these things sound like cherrys and feel as smooth as gat yellows, I think you win the linear game, sven.
That's the goal, no one would be happier than me if that was the case! :D
ALSO, exclusive news: there is a tactile switch called "Taktil" in the planning stages... Not by gateron, and more tactile than zeal v1 and equivalents... :eek: Enough about that for now! :)
Post by: Starius on Tue, 26 February 2019, 13:50:59
Me and some other swedes will do individual comparisons to other popular linears, both feel and sound wise, lubed and unlubed.
ALSO, exclusive news: there is a tactile switch called "Taktil" in the planning stages... Not by gateron, and more tactile than zeal v1 and equivalents... :eek: Enough about that for now! :)
God bless the Swedes. :thumb:
Post by: Emir on Fri, 01 March 2019, 05:07:19
Post by: wellbeing44 on Fri, 01 March 2019, 07:24:52
Got confirmation from gateron (with photo) that the package with samples is on the way! Will update as soon as I get it! :)
Let's hope the colors are just right :)
Post by: Lyle88 on Sat, 02 March 2019, 03:39:14
Post by: Emir on Mon, 04 March 2019, 02:55:38
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 04 March 2019, 06:44:57
Post by: Emir on Mon, 04 March 2019, 09:22:23
(https://i.imgur.com/rxaf3Sh.png)
My girlfriend was at home waiting for the samples all day... Asked for it to be delivered to a service point instead, sigh. Guess tomorrow is the day.
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Mon, 04 March 2019, 09:33:00
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 04 March 2019, 09:33:28
Well, ****. Got hit with the classic DHL:
The good ole DHL "haha didn't actually ring your doorbell pranked good luck getting it from the grocery shop service point some other day" manoeuvre. """""""express delivery"""""""
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 12:34:27
Ok, so Gateron send me images of the samples they were about to send me, and unfortunately I didn't like it.
It could be a bedroom condition type of thing, but it doesn't seem to match pantones, and also, it's plate mount.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J2cXZyH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sCHJGGE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hgKseua.jpg)
It could be poor photos, but it seems too extreme in the colors (too bright).
Gateron offered to make new samples, but it'll take a week. I rather delay with a week and have this one limited production run done right, than rush it and disappoint everyone (mostly ourselves in the Swedish community).
Sorry, and let's hope the new samples are on point!
Thank you so much for putting us first and work with Gateron on new samples! Kudos to your team!
Post by: bard on Tue, 05 March 2019, 04:49:41
Post by: Emir on Tue, 05 March 2019, 04:51:31
Let's try again... :cool:
are they smooth like c3 tangerine?
I'll compare to tangerines when I get them.
Post by: HomerSp on Tue, 05 March 2019, 05:02:24
DHL outright refuse to deliver to me, so I know the pain. Luckily they now default to deliver it to a service point instead - before I had to do a bunch of calls just for them to actually deliver it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fBgw9tM.png)
Let's try again... :cool:are they smooth like c3 tangerine?
I'll compare to tangerines when I get them.
If you need another Swede to do switch testing, I'm available *wink* :))
Post by: Gondolindrim on Tue, 05 March 2019, 07:07:28
Post by: Emir on Tue, 05 March 2019, 07:42:43
Yo Emir, from what I understood this is a one-time production? There is not going to be anymore production of these switches?
That is correct, one production run and we won't run it again. Hold on tight to these. :)
Post by: Gondolindrim on Tue, 05 March 2019, 07:50:51
Yo Emir, from what I understood this is a one-time production? There is not going to be anymore production of these switches?
That is correct, one production run and we won't run it again. Hold on tight to these. :)
Goddamnit why do I feel like I should have gotten more?
Post by: Emir on Tue, 05 March 2019, 07:53:44
Yo Emir, from what I understood this is a one-time production? There is not going to be anymore production of these switches?
That is correct, one production run and we won't run it again. Hold on tight to these. :)
Goddamnit why do I feel like I should have gotten more?
Save the money for GMK Nines... :))
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 March 2019, 12:13:34
Yo Emir, from what I understood this is a one-time production? There is not going to be anymore production of these switches?
That is correct, one production run and we won't run it again. Hold on tight to these. :)
Goddamnit why do I feel like I should have gotten more?
Save the money for GMK Nines... :))
Too many good things coming out!
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 05 March 2019, 14:11:59
are they smooth like c3 tangerine?
I hope it is at least as smooth as Gateron ink - which is smoother than c3 tangerine according to some reviews
My concern is also - how much wobble?
I already like Gateron yellows and Gateron blacks so that should be fine anyway even with wobbles.
Post by: Emir on Tue, 05 March 2019, 14:43:28
First off, the color look goods to me - but I do not have a pantone catalogue. I will send out samples to Swedes with access to good photography setups + pantone catalogues for some comparisons tomorrow - we in the community are however satisfied just based on the color in photos and IRL, even if it's off the pantone by a lil bit.
Some photos shot with my iPhone, don't got access to a DSLR today (I will tomorrow):
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534360185523929088/552551755821613059/image2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QHXXmf8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DGuPb4w.jpg)
Light source reduced to half:
(https://i.imgur.com/BKN0lNB.jpg)
bonus bedroom conditions
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534360185523929088/552552305032167424/image0.jpg)
They look good to me, but on to other details:
- Springs are not the same as Gateron yellow
- They feel slightly lighter than Gateron Yellows (perhaps because of the nature of gat yellow springs?)
- No unordinary spring ping (to the degree that I did not notice it stock)
- Wobble is the same as Gateron Yellow
- Feels equally smooth as a Gateron yellow, perhaps slightly better than yellow and more towards a tealio (both in hand and in board) - difficult to tell with the inconsistent lube stock
- Lube job is inconsistent, common with gateron factory lubed switches. Lubed very lightly, easily lube anything else ontop
- Nylon housing definitely changes the sound signature stock
Only board I have available right now to test sound in that is hotswap is a HHKB tofu, I recorded some sound clips.
All sound clips are with R1 GMK caps.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=11nJsA0A4UjpjJmx4mx66mWZeAbhhYA6r
Clips are recorded in the order the file names are (black is actually vint black).
Clips of both stock and 205g0 lubed linjär vs others.
In summary, Nylon housing definitely changes the sound signature, just as we wanted! It may not be too obvious in the clips, but keep in mind that the board used is top mount and not known for sounding good in general.
It is more obvious to me when listening in my hand, but that does not really tell much other than that they are "different", I can't really judge how good Linjär really can sound.
My quick analysis. Tomorrow I will be sending out samples to a few swedes to make their own comparisons and base their own opinions. We will also get some pantone comparisons for you guys!
Post by: HAYAN on Tue, 05 March 2019, 14:51:38
Post by: Emir on Tue, 05 March 2019, 14:55:39
Would it be too greedy to expect this to be as smooth as tealios? :roll:
Anyway, the price is almost 1/3 of tealios, the housing color is nice. So i'll be satisfied if it's as smooth as gat yellow or black :)
I barely tell a difference in a keyboard with a tealio and linjär next to each other, but then again I'd say gat yellows aren't far from tealios either. I'd say Linjär are inbetween, maybe. Not sure, I haven't got full boards of these to actually base a real opinion. What I can say for sure though, is that they are smooth.
We will see what the other swedes say! :)
Post by: Starius on Tue, 05 March 2019, 18:11:31
(http://bestanimations.com/Flags/Europe/Western/Scandinavia/sweden/sweden-flag-waving-animated-gif-7.gif)
Post by: Emir on Wed, 06 March 2019, 02:30:12
We also decided to accept these colors as is, and will not ask for another round of samples.
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 06 March 2019, 03:14:52
But if there is, please consider possibility of getting sponsorship from IKEA.
Post by: Emir on Wed, 06 March 2019, 03:25:51
I know there's no second round.
But if there is, please consider possibility of getting sponsorship from IKEA.
Look out for the tactile version. ;) I'll contact ikea for sponsoring DIY-leaflets and ship in parts!
Post by: wellbeing44 on Wed, 06 March 2019, 03:59:52
Ok, so let's start.
First off, the color look goods to me - but I do not have a pantone catalogue. I will send out samples to Swedes with access to good photography setups + pantone catalogues for some comparisons tomorrow - we in the community are however satisfied just based on the color in photos and IRL, even if it's off the pantone by a lil bit.
Some photos shot with my iPhone, don't got access to a DSLR today (I will tomorrow):Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534360185523929088/552551755821613059/image2.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QHXXmf8.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DGuPb4w.jpg)
Light source reduced to half:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BKN0lNB.jpg)
bonus bedroom conditionsShow Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534360185523929088/552552305032167424/image0.jpg)
They look good to me, but on to other details:
- Springs are not the same as Gateron yellow
- They feel slightly lighter than Gateron Yellows (perhaps because of the nature of gat yellow springs?)
- No unordinary spring ping (to the degree that I did not notice it stock)
- Wobble is the same as Gateron Yellow
- Feels equally smooth as a Gateron yellow, perhaps slightly better than yellow and more towards a tealio (both in hand and in board) - difficult to tell with the inconsistent lube stock
- Lube job is inconsistent, common with gateron factory lubed switches. Lubed very lightly, easily lube anything else ontop
- Nylon housing definitely changes the sound signature stock
Only board I have available right now to test sound in that is hotswap is a HHKB tofu, I recorded some sound clips.
All sound clips are with R1 GMK caps.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=11nJsA0A4UjpjJmx4mx66mWZeAbhhYA6r
Clips are recorded in the order the file names are (black is actually vint black).
Clips of both stock and 205g0 lubed linjär vs others.
In summary, Nylon housing definitely changes the sound signature, just as we wanted! It may not be too obvious in the clips, but keep in mind that the board used is top mount and not known for sounding good in general.
It is more obvious to me when listening in my hand, but that does not really tell much other than that they are "different", I can't really judge how good Linjär really can sound.
My quick analysis. Tomorrow I will be sending out samples to a few swedes to make their own comparisons and base their own opinions. We will also get some pantone comparisons for you guys!
Thanks for providing pictures with different light sources! Although I can't see it in person, I have a pretty good idea of what they look like. Looking good! :thumb:
Post by: FreeCopy on Wed, 06 March 2019, 04:28:38
Post by: Emir on Wed, 06 March 2019, 06:20:22
The community was divided about the sample, so we have told Gateron to hold off until more people clear the samples.
Tomorrow we will post some better photos, also next to pantone catalogues. Sorry for the delay, but the end result is the most important to us.
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 06 March 2019, 06:52:37
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Wed, 06 March 2019, 09:31:26
Hi Everyone, sorry, but another update.
The community was divided about the sample, so we have told Gateron to hold off until more people clear the samples.
Tomorrow we will post some better photos, also next to pantone catalogues. Sorry for the delay, but the end result is the most important to us.
I would much rather have a delayed success than a rushed failure. Thank you for the updates and hard work!
Post by: Emir on Thu, 07 March 2019, 02:41:02
Hi Everyone, sorry, but another update.
The community was divided about the sample, so we have told Gateron to hold off until more people clear the samples.
Tomorrow we will post some better photos, also next to pantone catalogues. Sorry for the delay, but the end result is the most important to us.
I would much rather have a delayed success than a rushed failure. Thank you for the updates and hard work!
Yes, thanks! It is difficult as we decide as a community. Many different voices and opinions.
On one side, we have the camp that is like "it's just a meme, who cares if it is a shade or two off, it looks good enough and you can easily tell the colors are based on the swedish flag"
the other side are the ones that want to deliver a more accurate color, but even this side tends to be OK with the color being slightly off with the argument "it's not GMK, we are not matching keycaps here.." but still want it to be fairly accurate.
We will see, samples should arrive to other swedes now. I have asked them to report their feedback in the thread and without being influenced by others opinions. :)
Post by: Gabbzan on Thu, 07 March 2019, 09:40:00
Post by: Emir on Thu, 07 March 2019, 13:46:35
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534360185523929088/553301057405583361/P1133143.JPG)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534360185523929088/553300782771077143/P1133135.JPG)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534360185523929088/553301164138037279/P1133146.JPG)
We found out that requesting a new sample might delay the shipping up to 8 weeks, if not longer. IMO the switch looks good, we will find out soon after we match to pantones. I also found out Gateron can't really match perfectly like GMK would be able to for example, so we might have to compromise. In any case, switch looks great to me!
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 07 March 2019, 15:15:02
I took some more, this time with a DSLR white balanced off of a white sheet of paper.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534360185523929088/553301057405583361/P1133143.JPG)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534360185523929088/553300782771077143/P1133135.JPG)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534360185523929088/553301164138037279/P1133146.JPG)
We found out that requesting a new sample might delay the shipping up to 8 weeks, if not longer. IMO the switch looks good, we will find out soon after we match to pantones. I also found out Gateron can't really match perfectly like GMK would be able to for example, so we might have to compromise. In any case, switch looks great to me!
Thanks for the update!
Post by: otanishock on Thu, 07 March 2019, 16:02:07
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Post by: dhb82 on Thu, 07 March 2019, 16:14:35
I do wish the blue looks just a little bit more muted. The sample looks just a little bit too saturated for me, but maybe that was because of the light. That being said, I'm cool either way. Very nice job overall :thumb:
Tbh, the render looks nothing like IKEA or the SWE flag, the blue is too dark, but i hear you, i like the muted blue aswell, but if they are going for a meme switch, the one they got now is the one that matches the colors.
Post by: TheMnBN on Thu, 07 March 2019, 17:43:51
I do wish the blue looks just a little bit more muted. The sample looks just a little bit too saturated for me, but maybe that was because of the light. That being said, I'm cool either way. Very nice job overall :thumb:
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I'm more interested in feel and sound profile but I must say I have nothing against the IKEA-ish blue ;D
Post by: Starius on Thu, 07 March 2019, 17:46:20
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 07 March 2019, 18:44:45
Post by: wellbeing44 on Thu, 07 March 2019, 23:09:17
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 07 March 2019, 23:49:25
Post by: Emir on Fri, 08 March 2019, 02:14:02
The KBDFans renders are probably too dark, it does not remind me of the Swedish flag as much as our original renders.
None of the renders have the same lighting as the shots showed, so we can't make a fair comparison in any case. We will wait for the swedish guy with the pantone references to take some shots, then we will know for sure how close or far off it is.
In any case, we are all in agreement to the most important question to us: Do the switches look like Sweden? Yes.
We are aware that many people bought this because they like the colors in the render, not necessarily it being "Swedish" per say - and those might be very upset.
We do not know what to do yet, but want to be as transparent as we can - I hope everyone can understand the situation we are in, and we want to please everyone including ourselves.
Post by: leece3 on Fri, 08 March 2019, 03:46:44
Post by: DasGnome on Fri, 08 March 2019, 08:28:33
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 08 March 2019, 08:53:04
Post by: Janne on Fri, 08 March 2019, 14:00:41
I got two sample switches from Emir today, and I've got to say that while they don't look quite as dark as the renders, they look good enough for me personally.
The alternative is to wait another 11 weeks, and I really do not want that. I put one of them in my 3x3 switch tester and with keycaps on, it obviously looks darker.
Keep in mind though that I've been part of making the switch.
I have yet to lube one of them to test, but when it comes to feel, I think it feels a tiny bit less scratchier than the Gateron Yellows. It has a slightly different spring. The spring does not sound as much as the one in the Gat Yellows.
The Linjär is slightly scratchier compared to Zeal's Tealio switch. Both of them are completely stock and unlubed.
I will report back later when I have lubed one of them. It will be lubed with Krytox 205g0.
Post by: Smoff on Fri, 08 March 2019, 14:10:12
Bad photo from basement like conditions:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7884/47268167352_4ae6204b9f_b.jpg)
IMO they look a lot better in person. The pictures I've seen (including mine obviously) looks a lot brighter. However the blue is a little off in my opinion, but still good enough.
Sound test recorded with my phone, all switches slightly lubed with 204g0: https://soundcloud.com/ffoms/linjarsound
-They feel really good and sound really good, even better than I expected. (even though you can't really hear it on the sound test)
-I would say that they are equally smooth to my r9-10 tealios stock and lubed.
-Spring feels the same as gateron yellow to me.
-About the same amount of wobble as a gateron yellow.
Ideally I'd prefer them to be darker as well, but I don't think it is worth to wait 11 weeks to MAYBE have more a more accurate blue.
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Fri, 08 March 2019, 15:08:56
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Fri, 08 March 2019, 15:11:54
Post by: Starius on Fri, 08 March 2019, 15:25:28
I am of the opinion that since the switch aren't on display in a final product (keycaps cover the switches) and if the feel of the switch is good (which is what it seems like people are reporting) then they shouldn't go through another 8-11 weeks of essentially twiddling thumbs and waiting. My opinion is selfish though since I just want them ASAP to put on my new TKC1800 that's collecting dust in the meantime :<
That's the same board I want to put mine on too. :thumb:
Post by: CarlQs on Fri, 08 March 2019, 15:27:54
Post by: Emir on Sat, 09 March 2019, 07:22:02
We are aware that it is a few shades lighter than we initially wanted, but delaying the production for something that isn't guaranteed isn't a risk we want to take. Gateron can't match perfectly like for example GMK would be able to, and we are actually happy with the switch.
The switch feels and sounds good, and honestly, Sweden aside, it looks quite good. Everyone who received samples relayed back that they look better in person than what they expected from my initial photos, so that's good too.
It portrays Sweden quite well as is, we are happy with it.
To anyone who wanted something exactly as the render, we as a community offer our sincerest apologies, but we don't think we will be able to get it much more accurate. Gateron already tried to match the pantone, so us relaying back "just make it darker" might make it more worse in the end. It is nice, I hope you will all like it!
One person that got a sample noticed the blues are just a tiiiiiiiiiny bit different between top and bottom, and tried it in UV light:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534360185523929088/553636391758594071/IMG_20190308_185207.jpg)
We have no idea why the bottom specifically reacts to UV, but I will ask Gateron about it. I spoke to some people and a reason COULD be that gateron uses a slightly different nylon composition for bottoms with some very fine powder in order to make the bottoms more smooth. We will test with some other switches and hope Gateron has an answer for it.
TL;DR - PRODUCTION TIME!
Post by: wellbeing44 on Sat, 09 March 2019, 08:14:23
Post by: Gondolindrim on Sat, 09 March 2019, 09:41:09
TL;DR - PRODUCTION TIME!
Oh boy oh boy oh boy
Post by: Emir on Mon, 11 March 2019, 03:30:06
Well, not even Gateron could tell us why the bottom reacts to UV. They explained that the composition between top and bottom differs, and thus under direct sun light, you might notice a slight color difference. It's not something I or others noticed, besides 1 person who really looked for it, so don't be worried about that.
They have the "go ahead" anyway, let's see how long production will take! :)
Post by: HomerSp on Mon, 11 March 2019, 05:03:42
Hi Everyone,Hopefully not too long - can't wait! :D
Well, not even Gateron could tell us why the bottom reacts to UV. They explained that the composition between top and bottom differs, and thus under direct sun light, you might notice a slight color difference. It's not something I or others noticed, besides 1 person who really looked for it, so don't be worried about that.
They have the "go ahead" anyway, let's see how long production will take! :)
Post by: sendrim on Wed, 13 March 2019, 13:10:40
I took color-accurate pictures today. Many thanks to my design mentor who hooked me up with someone who had different Pantone-charts in Stockholm. I haven't asked them for permission to shout them out here so I'll just keep it to myself for now.
My goal with these pictures was not to get them pretty, but rather color-correct. I'll take the beautyshots later...
This is a poorly converted JPEG (there is a link to the untouched RAW-files below)
(https://i.imgur.com/MBNfdb1.jpg)
Gear used:
Canon EOS 6d
Sigma 150mm APO DG Macro
Canon SpeedLight
An all white room
Link to the RAW photos:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dkrfplLX34OPaMe9ZssOIIVapdf9l16R
Post by: Pluto19 on Wed, 13 March 2019, 13:27:07
Post by: sendrim on Wed, 13 March 2019, 13:33:52
These samples were accidentally made plate-mount correct?
Correct, the final product will have 5 legs (allignment pins)
Post by: Emir on Thu, 14 March 2019, 06:34:02
Hey!
I took color-accurate pictures today. Many thanks to my design mentor who hooked me up with someone who had different Pantone-charts in Stockholm. I haven't asked them for permission to shout them out here so I'll just keep it to myself for now.
My goal with these pictures was not to get them pretty, but rather color-correct. I'll take the beautyshots later...
This is a poorly converted JPEG (there is a link to the untouched RAW-files below)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MBNfdb1.jpg)
Gear used:
Canon EOS 6d
Sigma 150mm APO DG Macro
Canon SpeedLight
An all white room
Link to the RAW photos:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dkrfplLX34OPaMe9ZssOIIVapdf9l16R
TBH it surprised all of us how close it actually is. Keep in mind this is comparing plastic to paper, and they react to light differently so it's hard to get a real idea. However, it's ****ing close in any case, I am satisfied with this, and so are the rest of our community! Thanks for the great shots Sendrim! :)
Post by: sendrim on Thu, 14 March 2019, 07:13:28
TBH it surprised all of us how close it actually is. Keep in mind this is comparing plastic to paper, and they react to light differently so it's hard to get a real idea. However, it's ****ing close in any case, I am satisfied with this, and so are the rest of our community! Thanks for the great shots Sendrim! :)
Well, thank you! :)
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 14 March 2019, 07:29:02
How do you guys plan to lube? just upper housing, just stem, or both? And then springs?
And are there blue lubes or yellow lubes to pair with?
Post by: ctrl on Thu, 14 March 2019, 07:46:27
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 14 March 2019, 09:02:03
I saw some signs of lube of the lower housing in the photo - is it just me?
How do you guys plan to lube? just upper housing, just stem, or both? And then springs?
And are there blue lubes or yellow lubes to pair with?
Prepare to lube yourself. Gaterons factory lubing is a little inconsistent we've found, so you're safest to do it yourself.
Post by: Emir on Wed, 20 March 2019, 03:27:33
Post by: The_Royal on Wed, 20 March 2019, 08:53:15
...However, proxies have relayed to me that the production has started and is expected to be done by 10th of April...
NICE!
April Can't get here fast enough! Excited to get these switches all lubed up and clackin!
Post by: GigaFlop on Fri, 22 March 2019, 22:52:59
So I've actually not heard back from Gateron (even sent a reminder), so I don't have first hand status reports to share. However, proxies have relayed to me that the production has started and is expected to be done by 10th of April. I will try to get in touch with Gateron for a confirmation personally as well, but we are moving along and everything is paid!
I can't wait - I have a brass Boardwalk that's waiting for these and Godspeed caps!
Post by: nasp on Sat, 23 March 2019, 00:12:19
Post by: Emir on Sat, 23 March 2019, 06:10:31
There will be SOME extras at all 3 proxies, on their own account - so please get those after shipment is done. As it is only one production run and extras are limited, don't wait to grab yours! :)
Each proxy did this non-profit with us, so rather than paying flipping dolphins on mechmarket, support the proxies who did this basically for free first. <3
Post by: Prelim on Sat, 23 March 2019, 07:36:07
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 23 March 2019, 11:12:17
I've contacted the EU proxy, but didn't get any reply yet :(
Might have to wait a bit, the extras were bought for those who missed out and more importantly to ensure if any deliveries to the GB participants get lost, the proxy can have extra stock to replace those orders.
Post by: GigaFlop on Sat, 23 March 2019, 11:36:08
Brass Boardwalk? You aren't talking about the ortholinear PCB are you? Just curious.
I'm talking exactly about that, yes :)
Brass plate, and a PVD bronze case. The blue and yellow on these switches should fit well with all those components and Godspeed caps.
Post by: nasp on Sat, 23 March 2019, 11:49:01
Post by: Emir on Sun, 24 March 2019, 10:01:22
:cool:
Post by: bard on Sun, 24 March 2019, 12:27:15
Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481802937375653889/559312240931504130/mmexport1553420792349.jpg)
:cool:
is it done? :cool:
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 24 March 2019, 13:02:49
Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481802937375653889/559312240931504130/mmexport1553420792349.jpg)
:cool:
Pretty excited to see them done. I've got my No.1 65% silver with blue accents waiting for these.
Post by: Ashardalon on Mon, 25 March 2019, 13:44:56
Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481802937375653889/559312240931504130/mmexport1553420792349.jpg)
:cool:
I just wanna put my hands in that pile and pick them all up. The gf and I are really excited for these, especially after hearing from someone who had samples that they sound and feel really good.
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 27 March 2019, 14:17:51
Post by: Emir on Sat, 30 March 2019, 20:11:38
Switches are done and are being shipped (need to confirm with all proxies, but kbdfans will receive theirs shortly)!
This means that Linjär is soon in your hands. ;)
Post by: TheMnBN on Sat, 30 March 2019, 20:18:56
Hello!
Switches are done and are being shipped (need to confirm with all proxies, but kbdfans will receive theirs shortly)!
This means that Linjär is soon in your hands. ;)
Hype! :thumb:
Post by: Zeit on Sun, 31 March 2019, 00:00:05
Post by: bball2 on Mon, 01 April 2019, 00:22:56
Post by: TunnaTown on Mon, 01 April 2019, 00:38:20
It looks like our switches are on their Wei. :cool:
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 01 April 2019, 16:32:42
Post by: Emir on Mon, 01 April 2019, 16:44:18
Post by: Jinnnxxu on Mon, 01 April 2019, 21:39:20
Post by: LeoShi on Tue, 02 April 2019, 09:02:44
looks good to me ;D
Post by: Emir on Tue, 02 April 2019, 09:04:53
got mine today
looks good to me ;D
How do you like them? Would you agree in our sample feedback? I still don't have the production run so I am curious! :)
Post by: eas on Tue, 02 April 2019, 14:48:12
Post by: Emir on Tue, 02 April 2019, 15:07:38
Wondering how people will remove the factory lube from the stem and what lube you'll then apply?
You really don't have to remove any factory lube, in my opinion. It is very minimal (and inconsistent).
As for lubing, I plan to use 205g0 in mine! :)
Post by: Ashardalon on Tue, 02 April 2019, 17:45:55
Post by: jackie89 on Thu, 04 April 2019, 01:42:41
I'll be lubing mine with 205g0 for sure, love me a thicc linear. If anyone in NA wants their switches lubed, shoot me a PM and I'll let you know the prices. I'll do as many as you want :)
Oh hey, pretty much signed up to say I'm interested. AND I'm over here in Mainland BC: ) Will PM you shortly.
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 07 April 2019, 07:16:27
Post by: mgsickler on Sun, 07 April 2019, 12:23:33
Hoping for that NovelKeys shipping notice shortly!
This week! I expect to get the switches on Monday/Tuesday and then will begin shipping out. :)
Post by: Ashardalon on Mon, 08 April 2019, 14:05:54
Hoping for that NovelKeys shipping notice shortly!
This week! I expect to get the switches on Monday/Tuesday and then will begin shipping out. :)
This is excellent news! I'm really stoked to receive these, as the early review samples that people have received seem to be doing quite well.
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 08 April 2019, 14:24:14
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 08 April 2019, 17:48:21
The switches have made it to the country of superior hockey. Much better home than Sweden :p
(https://i.imgur.com/9pJSZi9.jpg)
Kbdfans wrap these in a box than makes it look like a brick of fentanyl, so these became very expensive after I had to pay the bad boy tax at the border. Oh well. They feel really smooth as is, and I think some 3204 will make these comparable to vints in the feels and sound department.
Post by: Rubbermilitia on Mon, 08 April 2019, 18:19:41
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/T6z33Jq.jpg)
The switches have made it to the country of superior hockey. Much better home than Sweden :pShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/9pJSZi9.jpg)
Kbdfans wrap these in a box than makes it look like a brick of fentanyl, so these became very expensive after I had to pay the bad boy tax at the border. Oh well. They feel really smooth as is, and I think some 3204 will make these comparable to vints in the feels and sound department.
So cute. How does the nylon housing sound? I have vint blacks and love the sound, are they also nylon? Hard to find material details on switch housings...
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 08 April 2019, 18:53:51
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 08 April 2019, 21:00:59
Yep. Cherry housings are nylon, as are these. I haven't given them a proper sound test, but since they're the same materials and geometry as cherries, I'd expect identical sound.
i think the geometries are slightly different, and the springs are a different design so that may affect things as well
but it shouldn't be too far off
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 08 April 2019, 22:03:05
Post by: etong415 on Tue, 09 April 2019, 21:12:33
Oh yeah, speaking of which, anyone taking the plunge and spring swapping these with actual gateron yellow springs? I think that will take these to be what gateron yellow should have been IMHO.I have some gateron yellows to compare it to, and if they feel noticeably different, I'll be spring swapping to the Gat Yellow springs.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 09 April 2019, 21:26:39
Post by: mgsickler on Wed, 10 April 2019, 06:35:55
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 10 April 2019, 08:31:41
Post by: eskimojo on Wed, 10 April 2019, 08:56:01
He's like betelgeuse...
I agree, he is a star
Post by: Starius on Wed, 10 April 2019, 08:57:52
Our switches have been received. Packaging will start today and shipping will begin tomorrow! Everyone should have automatically received the tracking numbers from me.
I've got my tracking! :thumb:
Post by: Emir on Wed, 10 April 2019, 09:19:59
Our switches have been received. Packaging will start today and shipping will begin tomorrow! Everyone should have automatically received the tracking numbers from me.
<3
MyKeeb seems to be last as Gateron didn't send out their shipment prior to the Chinese holiday, but ours are coming too! :)
Post by: etong415 on Thu, 11 April 2019, 01:27:22
How do they feel compared to vintage blacks, if you have any? I expect them to sound the same, but I'm wondering about the smoothness and wobbleOh yeah, speaking of which, anyone taking the plunge and spring swapping these with actual gateron yellow springs? I think that will take these to be what gateron yellow should have been IMHO.I have some gateron yellows to compare it to, and if they feel noticeably different, I'll be spring swapping to the Gat Yellow springs.
Post by: wellbeing44 on Thu, 11 April 2019, 05:33:34
The color seems to vary depending on the light source used. It looks closer to the ikea shade irl.
Edit: was shipped from kbdfans, before someone asks ;D
Post by: Lyle88 on Thu, 11 April 2019, 08:08:34
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Post by: Emir on Thu, 11 April 2019, 08:15:39
In the off chance that anyone wants to sell some. I would be very keen to buy 70
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There will be extras though!
Post by: TunnaTown on Thu, 11 April 2019, 09:38:26
First impression: smooth AF
Will see, how they feel in a build.
Post by: Ashardalon on Thu, 11 April 2019, 11:42:58
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 11 April 2019, 11:49:38
Post by: Lyle88 on Thu, 11 April 2019, 17:19:20
From the proxies?In the off chance that anyone wants to sell some. I would be very keen to buy 70
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There will be extras though!
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Post by: bengine on Thu, 11 April 2019, 22:13:09
From the proxies?In the off chance that anyone wants to sell some. I would be very keen to buy 70
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There will be extras though!
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Novelkeys said the extras will be available next week.
Post by: Smoff on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:13:36
From the proxies?In the off chance that anyone wants to sell some. I would be very keen to buy 70
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There will be extras though!
Yes, pretty sure all proxies bought a fair amount of extras^^
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Post by: Smoff on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:17:14
Has anyone who's received them opened them up and see whether they'll need switch films or not?I received proto switches a while back. Would not say that they need switch films, but I personally don't notice wobble that much.
They have about the same amount of wobble as a Gateron yellow.
Post by: Starius on Sat, 13 April 2019, 18:28:01
I received mine today!
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They are very cool, and super smooth!
I've just been sitting here comparing them by touch with Tealios and FEI switches.
As you can imagine, all three of these switches are fantastic linears and very smooth.
The Linjar feels almost as smooth as the Tealios to me, with the FEI just a hair behind. The Linjar, like the FEI, has a bit of a spring sound on the down stroke, but it's less so. The Tealios has no such sound at all as far as I can hear. The upstroke sound on the Linjar and FEI are also very similar. But this is all just playing around with them next to my ear.
If I were to try them all out on the same board, I'm really not sure if I'd be able to tell them apart. But considering I have a Tokyo60 sitting in front of me with hot swap sockets, I may have to try just that.
Post by: Icte on Sun, 14 April 2019, 04:19:34
Post by: macken on Sun, 14 April 2019, 04:25:12
Has anyone received any notification/their ordered switches from mykeyboard.eu?
I am also waiting on my notification from mykeyboard.eu.
Post by: Emir on Sun, 14 April 2019, 04:26:48
Has anyone received any notification/their ordered switches from mykeyboard.eu?
Due to some confusion with the EU logistics, they have been delayed and have not yet arrived to MyKeyboard.eu
From MyKeyboard discord:
NecromanXLast Thursday at 16:21
Still waiting on gateron to shio
They are not used to the extra paperwork
NecromanXLast Thursday at 16:25
its ok. I assume he got it resolved.
To help them we booked it in our selves he just has to fill in documents he gets from TNT but thats already an issue
Not sure how different it is compared to other regions
One things is that we demand that all documents are correct so probably that
With that said, Walker did an excellent review on Linjär:
Ironic the Swedes get their switches last, but oh well no biggie! :)
Post by: Emir on Sun, 14 April 2019, 07:11:24
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/group-buy/products/gb-linjar-custom-linear-switch
Post by: Jedi on Sun, 14 April 2019, 16:50:52
Post by: Sythe on Sun, 14 April 2019, 19:16:00
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 14 April 2019, 19:19:08
Post by: TunnaTown on Mon, 15 April 2019, 11:33:16
Super smooth, nice sound, great colors.
Contra:
2 of my switches were DOA and couldn't fix them so far. :(
Post by: appaboy on Mon, 15 April 2019, 11:36:49
Pro:
Super smooth, nice sound, great colors.
Contra:
2 of my switches were DOA and couldn't fix them so far. :(
Pretty much a summary of gateron. Smooth but **** qc
Post by: ywcsam on Mon, 15 April 2019, 16:03:07
- Linjars are not Gateron Yellows clone.
- The spring is gold plated and feel a little lighter than Gat Yellows.
- From my unscientific stem kissing experiment, I can consistently move the Linjar's stem before the Gat Yellow's.
- Stock Linjar is alright. Needs lube to shine.
- Once lubed, Linjar is as smooth as lubed Gat Yellows, and slightly smoother than the lubed MX Blacks.
- It sounds closer to MX Blacks than either of the Gat Yellows.
- Has enough room for a switch film, but sounds significantly higher pitched with the film.
Post by: Rubbermilitia on Mon, 15 April 2019, 16:06:48
Got my Linjars over the weekend and did some comparison against Gateron Yellows (Clear and Milky) and MX Blacks (Vintage and Retooled) with my fingers.
- Linjars are not Gateron Yellows clone.
- The spring is gold plated and feel a little lighter than Gat Yellows.
- From my unscientific stem kissing experiment, I can consistently move the Linjar's stem before the Gat Yellow's.
- Stock Linjar is alright. Needs lube to shine.
- Once lubed, Linjar is as smooth as Gat Yellows, and slightly smoother than the MX Blacks.
- It sounds closer to MX Blacks than either of the Gat Yellows.
- Has enough room for a switch film, but sounds significantly higher pitched with the film.
Awesome review, thanks. Looking to mess with these myself soon
Post by: Ashardalon on Mon, 15 April 2019, 17:49:10
Got my Linjars over the weekend and did some comparison against Gateron Yellows (Clear and Milky) and MX Blacks (Vintage and Retooled) with my fingers.
- Linjars are not Gateron Yellows clone.
- The spring is gold plated and feel a little lighter than Gat Yellows.
- From my unscientific stem kissing experiment, I can consistently move the Linjar's stem before the Gat Yellow's.
- Stock Linjar is alright. Needs lube to shine.
- Once lubed, Linjar is as smooth as Gat Yellows, and slightly smoother than the MX Blacks.
- It sounds closer to MX Blacks than either of the Gat Yellows.
- Has enough room for a switch film, but sounds significantly higher pitched with the film.
This is some really useful information, thank you! I've also had a few pieces of info gathered from the TopClack discord:
- Christo 129 lube has a slightly higher-pitched sound signature than 205g0 but both feel really good (less updrag on the 129, according to Walker)
- The housing is tight enough that a switch film isn't really necessary
- Standard spring design, not like the Gateron Yellows (good candidate for spring swapping)
I'm looking forward to receiving mine and doing some testing. I'm going to do some spring swapping and stem swapping and see what kind of results I get.
Post by: etong415 on Mon, 15 April 2019, 17:57:38
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 15 April 2019, 18:11:26
Are you guys planning on adding switch films to your Linjärs? It helps a lot on vint blacks but not sure how big of an impact it’ll have here, and I don’t have any extra to test out anymore
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I use lubed vintage blacks with spring swap and films, but for these I'm actually going to leave them unfilmed, unlubed and just add a gat yellow spring. Lubing for some could be an option, but these do not need films.
Post by: ywcsam on Mon, 15 April 2019, 18:42:33
Are you guys planning on adding switch films to your Linjärs? It helps a lot on vint blacks but not sure how big of an impact it’ll have here, and I don’t have any extra to test out anymore
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Films are not necessary for this switch since the top is tight enough, but the films will change the tone of the switch so it's a preference thing.
Post by: OracleKev on Mon, 15 April 2019, 23:36:07
Wondering how similar to Cherry tops. Tried Outemu nylon tops, but they weren't as low pitch sounding as Cherry tops.
Post by: HomerSp on Mon, 22 April 2019, 02:32:25
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Post by: Ares2105 on Thu, 02 May 2019, 04:26:58
Haven’t heard anything either
me neither, has someone already written them?
Post by: Emir on Thu, 02 May 2019, 05:40:41
Haven’t heard anything either
me neither, has someone already written them?
Mykeyboard has a bit of a backlog due to sick leave and other reasons, but they are catching up and most linjär orders are sent by now. I received mine a while back and I know of many others who did as well.
Please be patient, I know it's inconvenient but they'll come soon! :)
Post by: ttot on Thu, 02 May 2019, 08:15:38
Post by: orim23 on Fri, 10 May 2019, 04:13:32
Post by: dhb82 on Fri, 10 May 2019, 06:09:18
Post by: leece3 on Sat, 11 May 2019, 18:34:34
Post by: dhb82 on Sun, 12 May 2019, 09:36:13
Did anyone hear something from KBDFans? I ordered there and haven't got any notification that something has been send out.. Anybody else got news from there? Thx.
Try and message them?
Post by: Sythe on Sun, 12 May 2019, 10:25:09
Did anyone hear something from KBDFans? I ordered there and haven't got any notification that something has been send out.. Anybody else got news from there? Thx.
I received mine from KBDfans like 1-2 weeks ago now. If you haven't heard anything by now, best to contact them imo.
Post by: leece3 on Sun, 12 May 2019, 14:33:28
Post by: futurecrime on Sun, 12 May 2019, 16:56:42
Post by: Emir on Mon, 13 May 2019, 04:53:07
Have mykeyboard extras been and gone? Looks like KBDfans are sold out...
Hi, extras at mykeeb have not yet gone live because they had a backlog of orders.
I received word that mykeeb is shipping the last of their orders today, and extras will be live shortly after (today or tomorrow).
Extras are also live at novelkeys right now!
Post by: futurecrime on Mon, 13 May 2019, 14:58:48
Have mykeyboard extras been and gone? Looks like KBDfans are sold out...
Hi, extras at mykeeb have not yet gone live because they had a backlog of orders.
I received word that mykeeb is shipping the last of their orders today, and extras will be live shortly after (today or tomorrow).
Extras are also live at novelkeys right now!
Thanks! Will grip em on mykeyboard.
Post by: Geroximo on Tue, 14 May 2019, 07:38:36
Post by: g_ken92 on Tue, 14 May 2019, 09:52:11
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 15 May 2019, 00:21:02
Hows the smoothness of the switch? Standard gateron smoothness?Quite buttery smooth. Coming from a hardcore tealios' user, I don't think I have any complaint thus far.
Post by: Tekniqs on Wed, 15 May 2019, 01:42:00
snip
did you go straight to lubing? or did you try it stock first? might pick up some for a future build.
Post by: Emir on Wed, 15 May 2019, 02:19:09
First of all, the springs ping way more stock than the samples I received, they had virtually no ping at all stock - this isn't a big issue as lubing springs is standard practice these days.
Second, the samples are a slightly different hue in color, but not too noticable - I think they came out good.
Third and final, the samples were a tad bit smoother in my opinion, but the production samples are smooth as well - like to be expected of gateron.
Lubed up they are quite a nice switch and sound well, stock - not so much; but then again, which linear switch is amazing stock besides creams? :)
I am happy with the end result, but a few let downs compared to the samples.
Post by: befbef on Wed, 15 May 2019, 18:54:20
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Post by: Emir on Tue, 04 June 2019, 07:45:11
https://mykeyboard.eu/search/?q=Linj%C3%A4r+Switch
Post by: orim23 on Tue, 04 June 2019, 10:31:21
Post by: Emir on Tue, 04 June 2019, 11:02:19
funy, I'm still waiting on my switches from mykeyboard!
I am sorry to hear about that. :(
Try reaching out to them on Discord, they are very support oriented and will assist you:
https://discord.gg/KYXV9Rh
Post by: orim23 on Tue, 04 June 2019, 12:39:57
Wrote an email. Again.
Apparently they are to be sent out tomorrow. Will see.