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Title: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 14 February 2014, 14:55:29
Dolch keyset owners: would you be interested in an Esc key the color of the Dolch square? I am thinking white (or possibly black) Cherry type:

(http://i.imgur.com/teLQmMe.jpg)

If yes, how much would you be willing to pay for one? Let's assume produced by GMK.

DISCLAIMERS: I haven't run a group buy before. I haven't worked with GMK before. Given that they'd probably need a custom color for this run, it's entirely possible, even likely, that the MOQ would be ridiculous--we're only talking a single key, so even with a lot of interest we're not exactly tapping into economies of scale. That said, it may be less of a problem than I think, and/or maybe this key can be rolled into a production run for another custom set at some point. This is purely an interest check for now. If interest is strong, I will put in the time and effort to figure out the options. If any senior members want to tell me why a single key run is totally stupid/infeasible, be my guest, although productive advice would be appreciated much more. I have always liked the juxtaposition of the minimal green against the dark keys, and I think a Dolch Esc would be quite nice.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 15 February 2014, 06:40:55
The stock color UN6037 Cyan is pretty close really with CP for the legend color so it matches Dolch set. If use stock color, you only need 250 which isn't too bad. Single key should be like $2-$3. Maybe it would be cool to do also something like Enter, WASD, cursors.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tbc on Sat, 15 February 2014, 07:24:49
a single key is rather ridiculous shipping for international buyers.

- international buyer with $0.02
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 15 February 2014, 07:35:39
Esc + Wasd Cluster pls :D
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: snoopy on Sat, 15 February 2014, 07:56:18
what about an additional "Dolch"-key?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 15 February 2014, 08:24:02
I doubt such a 'Dolch' legend exist, so it would have to be a pad print as they are not offering to cut new legend just yet. Also there may be some trademark of the name still, in which case they may refuse it.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Candyflip on Sat, 15 February 2014, 08:24:29
Maybe a whole function row to justify international shipping, anyway I am in :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 15 February 2014, 14:49:38
The stock color UN6037 Cyan is pretty close really with CP for the legend color so it matches Dolch set. If use stock color, you only need 250 which isn't too bad. Single key should be like $2-$3. Maybe it would be cool to do also something like Enter, WASD, cursors.

Thanks for the info, that's really helpful.

We could definitely expand it to include WASD, arrows, function keys, whatever y'all want. Will definitely need more interest, though. Anybody able to post this on one of the Korean forums?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 17 February 2014, 04:19:59
Maybe it would be cool to do also something like Enter, WASD, cursors.

Esc, WASD, arrows and Enter, I'd be in for that.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 17 February 2014, 08:55:04
I don't own a set but I'd be down

Cheap GMK love love love
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:02:37
Do I here GMK? IN!
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:05:44
In for Esc, WASD, Enter, F5-F8, entire nav cluster. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: ebacho on Mon, 17 February 2014, 16:01:16
In for Esc, WASD, Enter, F5-F8, entire nav cluster. :)

Nav cluster sounds great honestly.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Moosecraft on Mon, 17 February 2014, 16:24:54
In for Esc, WASD, Enter, F5-F8, entire nav cluster. :)
THIS^^^^
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 17 February 2014, 16:49:59
In for Esc, WASD, Enter, F5-F8, entire nav cluster. :)
THIS^^^^

This ^.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: shawn o on Tue, 18 February 2014, 08:55:49
Great idea. I'd like the ESC, WASD, arrows, and enter.

White lettering to match Dolch keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: fknraiden on Sun, 23 February 2014, 09:05:59
definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: naokira on Sun, 23 February 2014, 09:11:25
Also add some FN keys!

1.0 ROW B FN key is not included in OG Dolch set.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Tue, 25 February 2014, 15:53:51
Great idea. I'd like the ESC, WASD, arrows, and enter.

White lettering to match Dolch keyboard.

+1 for all of this.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 16:40:53
Thanks for all of the input.

Who else is interested? We'll need more than ~20 people to make this happen.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 25 February 2014, 16:55:09
Esc and Fn and I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Reckthor on Tue, 25 February 2014, 17:11:41
If this works out I'm in for a ESC Key
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Brummell on Tue, 25 February 2014, 22:50:50
Great idea. I'd like the ESC, WASD, arrows, and enter.

White lettering to match Dolch keyboard.

Great idea. I'd like the ESC, WASD, arrows, and enter.

White lettering to match Dolch keyboard.

In for Esc, WASD, Enter, F5-F8, entire nav cluster. :)
THIS^^^^

This ^.

That ^.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: ideus on Tue, 25 February 2014, 23:20:40
If you guys are willing to add two 2.25 u shift keys I am in. Yeah, a Leo user here.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:05:07
Is there still interest in this? 

Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: mashby on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:18:37
I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:31:34
Very interested. But i agree with ivan. I think that we should go to Cp on Cyan :))
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: ideus on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:57:53
A humble esc key now escalates into a full nav + esc + enter, and functions keys? There should be a sweet spot  where the quantity of caps, shipping cost, and their price is reasonable. But I think anything Dolch related always has a lot of pull at GH.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 20 March 2014, 11:37:23
Proposed Set #1: Esc, F5, F6, F7, F8, Arrows, Enter - 10 keys.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: billnye on Tue, 25 March 2014, 18:01:20
What TJ proposed sounds pretty solid to me!

Count me in.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: eth0s on Tue, 25 March 2014, 18:36:35
If you're doing Esc, then I would want one with white lettering and a blank one too.  Blank actually seems most appealing.

Also I would like to see this too: WASD, F5 thru F8, Arrows, Enter.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Kfactork on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:47:24
I am interested as well. Especially Fn and some standard Ctrl+Alt+Shift and the F rows.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 26 March 2014, 18:56:30
Please enumerate your proposed set so we can come to a consensus.

 
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 18:59:11
I will do so within the next day or two!
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: ideus on Wed, 26 March 2014, 18:59:37
Esc, Enter, Caps Lock.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: fknraiden on Wed, 26 March 2014, 21:03:26
interested in that 10 keys tj proposed
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 15:43:27
Guys, sorry I have let this lapse, have been busy with the custom carrying case project.

As I mentioned in the OP, this would be my first keycap group buy, and I'm not completely clear on GMK's MOQ requirements. I believe it's 250, but are we completely free to choose the number/selection of caps in each order? For example, does MOQ=250 mean we could do an order for 250 green esc's for a total of only 250 keycaps? Or choose 10-15 select caps per order? Or what?

Regardless, I am concerned that we're way short of 250.

Would Ivan or another experienced GB facilitator shed some light?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 24 April 2014, 15:51:21
Guys, sorry I have let this lapse, have been busy with the custom carrying case project.

As I mentioned in the OP, this would be my first keycap group buy, and I'm not completely clear on GMK's MOQ requirements. I believe it's 250, but are we completely free to choose the number/selection of caps in each order? For example, does MOQ=250 mean we could do an order for 250 green esc's for a total of only 250 keycaps? Or choose 10-15 select caps per order? Or what?

Regardless, I am concerned that we're way short of 250.

Would Ivan or another experienced GB facilitator shed some light?


Talking to Ivan is probably the best bet.  I attempted to get some consensus on what to order, my proposed set is:
Quote
Esc, F5, F6, F7, F8, Arrows, Enter - 10 keys.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 15:55:26
Guys, sorry I have let this lapse, have been busy with the custom carrying case project.

As I mentioned in the OP, this would be my first keycap group buy, and I'm not completely clear on GMK's MOQ requirements. I believe it's 250, but are we completely free to choose the number/selection of caps in each order? For example, does MOQ=250 mean we could do an order for 250 green esc's for a total of only 250 keycaps? Or choose 10-15 select caps per order? Or what?

Regardless, I am concerned that we're way short of 250.

Would Ivan or another experienced GB facilitator shed some light?


Talking to Ivan is probably the best bet.  I attempted to get some consensus on what to order, my proposed set is:
Quote
Esc, F5, F6, F7, F8, Arrows, Enter - 10 keys.

Yea, I do appreciate that! I will review all replies and propose a set, prob. very similar to that, if it looks like we have any hope of a successful GB. But with only 20-30ish folks interested, I'm not sure what the prospects are. I might be willing to front some of the cost, give everyone the GB price, and sell extras later. But not 200+ orders  :-X

Let's see what Ivan says. If he doesn't drop in, I will PM him.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: fknraiden on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:05:39
Yes. Will buy and help meet moq
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:07:18
Yes. Will buy and help meet moq

  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: fknraiden on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:09:11
I'd love to get a full mod set if this ends up going from IC to GB
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Kfactork on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:13:06
I would get 2 or 3 set if it becomes a GB at an appropriate time  :))
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 24 April 2014, 19:08:39
I would get 2 or 3 set if it becomes a GB at an appropriate time  :))

Ditto.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 24 April 2014, 19:38:29
yes....
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 25 April 2014, 18:02:16
I plan on picking this up as an extras option when I attempt full set GMK Dolch soon.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 18:03:14
I plan on picking this up as an extras option when I attempt full set GMK Dolch soon.

That's fine with me. Good luck!
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Fri, 25 April 2014, 19:19:29
I plan on picking this up as an extras option when I attempt full set GMK Dolch soon.

How soon is soon? ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 25 April 2014, 19:31:23
Not too far away. Just need to work with GMK to try and get the base set to $100 or less without loosing anything 'essential'.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 20:29:27
I'm not interested.

I hate Dolch.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 20:33:07
I plan on picking this up as an extras option when I attempt full set GMK Dolch soon.

Would your gmk dolch set have support for 60% or a hhkb layout?

Not that I'd be interested in it or anything like that.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Fri, 25 April 2014, 20:39:48
Not too far away. Just need to work with GMK to try and get the base set to $100 or less without loosing anything 'essential'.

Thank youuu!
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 25 April 2014, 20:50:11
Dolch set will be very similar in key selection as what was tried in the all grey set buy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0) but some keys will be cut to drop that extra $20. Some of the 'fun' non essential stuff will be moved into the extras pack along with the white/cyan alternates proposed in here.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:10:16
Do you think it would be possible to get just alphas of that dark grey colour? Either as an add-on for the future Dolch group buy or later as a separate one? That way whoever signs up for the Dolch group buy could get a second keycaps set by ordering the extra alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:30:03
Dolch set will be very similar in key selection as what was tried in the all grey set buy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0) but some keys will be cut to drop that extra $20. Some of the 'fun' non essential stuff will be moved into the extras pack along with the white/cyan alternates proposed in here.
Curious about the odd legends on the home cluster and no text on the mods. Is that staying? I assume that's what everyone preferred in the previous IC?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 25 April 2014, 22:52:59
Text free mods will stay as long as there is an ISO options, because 1.25 with 'shift' on it looks crazy, and having one with and one without looks bad too. If there is no text on shift, there might as well not be any text on others either. Having multiples of the same keys is dumb and not cost effective. What is weird about the nav cluster?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 23:03:33
Text free mods will stay as long as there is an ISO options, because 1.25 with 'shift' on it looks crazy, and having one with and one without looks bad too. If there is no text on shift, there might as well not be any text on others either. Having multiples of the same keys is dumb and not cost effective. What is weird about the nav cluster?
Sounds good on the mods, looking again it looks nice.

My bad on the nav cluster I was referring to a mockup someone put in the spacebar GB thread that I thought they had just taken from your GMK GB that fell through. Looking at your OP I see they are standard, phew. They look great. Here's what someone else posted.
(http://i.imgur.com/sroSK1U.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 26 April 2014, 04:29:58
Not too far away. Just need to work with GMK to try and get the base set to $100 or less without loosing anything 'essential'.

Excite!

And hope for June deadline as I have run out of money this and next months.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tmk1207 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 03:21:37
ESC, aswd, enter and spacebar <3
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: sth on Sun, 27 April 2014, 03:24:09
i'm in for whatever :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Cafiend on Sun, 27 April 2014, 08:30:07
Totally interested.. All the above!
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: gh_pp on Mon, 28 April 2014, 16:34:07
Dolch set will be very similar in key selection as what was tried in the all grey set buy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0) but some keys will be cut to drop that extra $20. Some of the 'fun' non essential stuff will be moved into the extras pack along with the white/cyan alternates proposed in here.

Totally in.
originative still left me stranded with no GMK keyset :(
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 29 April 2014, 09:18:22
I'm in, excited to see what the add-on set.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 12 May 2014, 06:14:44
Anything to be made by GMK I will be in it  :thumb: .

Just name the date when this Group Buy will start, and I shall be there with my wallet.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: bueller on Mon, 12 May 2014, 06:54:57
Anything to be made by GMK I will be in it  :thumb: .

Just name the date when this Group Buy will start, and I shall be there with my wallet.


Yup, me too. I'm broke as hell at the moment but I'll always find a way to save for GMK goodies.

Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:48:26
Just waiting on pricing and updated mock ups from GMK. As soon as I have them I will start up the groupbuy.
For this kit, it will have 2x variation of Esc white/cyan and cyan/dark grey, white on cyan ▲ style arrows WASD replacement, cyan on grey F J, white on cyan ANSI ISO and NP enters, 1.25 and 1x cyan on dark grey win8 keys.
There will be a Dolch base set that will be around $110, a F'n'A rows pack, and an 'odd' mods+nav pack for minila, fc660, choc mini, keycool 84, Pure Pro/Tex, Race, 5000, 1800, and etc.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Mon, 12 May 2014, 14:44:14
Just waiting on pricing and updated mock ups from GMK. As soon as I have them I will start up the groupbuy.
For this kit, it will have 2x variation of Esc white/cyan and cyan/dark grey, white on cyan ▲ style arrows WASD replacement, cyan on grey F J, white on cyan ANSI ISO and NP enters, 1.25 and 1x cyan on dark grey win8 keys.
There will be a Dolch base set that will be around $110, a F'n'A rows pack, and an 'odd' mods+nav pack for minila, fc660, choc mini, keycool 84, Pure Pro/Tex, Race, 5000, 1800, and etc.

WANT. All of it, please :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 16:17:58
Just waiting on pricing and updated mock ups from GMK. As soon as I have them I will start up the groupbuy.
For this kit, it will have 2x variation of Esc white/cyan and cyan/dark grey, white on cyan ▲ style arrows WASD replacement, cyan on grey F J, white on cyan ANSI ISO and NP enters, 1.25 and 1x cyan on dark grey win8 keys.
There will be a Dolch base set that will be around $110, a F'n'A rows pack, and an 'odd' mods+nav pack for minila, fc660, choc mini, keycool 84, Pure Pro/Tex, Race, 5000, 1800, and etc.

Any purple keys?

I'd love a black/purple esc key.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:00:30
No purple this time, but I do like that idea.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:15:04
Just waiting on pricing and updated mock ups from GMK. As soon as I have them I will start up the groupbuy.
For this kit, it will have 2x variation of Esc white/cyan and cyan/dark grey, white on cyan ▲ style arrows WASD replacement, cyan on grey F J, white on cyan ANSI ISO and NP enters, 1.25 and 1x cyan on dark grey win8 keys.
There will be a Dolch base set that will be around $110, a F'n'A rows pack, and an 'odd' mods+nav pack for minila, fc660, choc mini, keycool 84, Pure Pro/Tex, Race, 5000, 1800, and etc.
Excellent news! Can't wait Ivan!
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:25:27
No purple this time, but I do like that idea.

Think about it for a future GB. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:54:47
Just waiting on pricing and updated mock ups from GMK. As soon as I have them I will start up the groupbuy.
For this kit, it will have 2x variation of Esc white/cyan and cyan/dark grey, white on cyan ▲ style arrows WASD replacement, cyan on grey F J, white on cyan ANSI ISO and NP enters, 1.25 and 1x cyan on dark grey win8 keys.
There will be a Dolch base set that will be around $110, a F'n'A rows pack, and an 'odd' mods+nav pack for minila, fc660, choc mini, keycool 84, Pure Pro/Tex, Race, 5000, 1800, and etc.

Oh Ivan, this is the BEST news of today that I've read thus far.

PLEASE make it so  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 12 May 2014, 19:05:23
Excited! Even though I already have a Dolch set, I can't have too many of them. In for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 12 May 2014, 19:08:03
Excited! Even though I already have a Dolch set, I can't have too many of them. In for sure.

You are so right, once you go Dolch there is no turning back  8) .
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 15:20:17
Just waiting on pricing and updated mock ups from GMK. As soon as I have them I will start up the groupbuy.
For this kit, it will have 2x variation of Esc white/cyan and cyan/dark grey, white on cyan ▲ style arrows WASD replacement, cyan on grey F J, white on cyan ANSI ISO and NP enters, 1.25 and 1x cyan on dark grey win8 keys.
There will be a Dolch base set that will be around $110, a F'n'A rows pack, and an 'odd' mods+nav pack for minila, fc660, choc mini, keycool 84, Pure Pro/Tex, Race, 5000, 1800, and etc.

Will this include Choc Mini spacebar?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:23:29
No, the odd mods pack won't include any spacebar, well except for minila or JIS keyboard that use but it's actually just a normal B profile key like a shift. GMK says they don't have any spacebar profile keys smaller than 6.25 and nothing in B profile over 3. At least with Choc it's the same profile, even if it's not the same color, at least it's easier to live with on feels.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:24:18
No, the odd mods pack won't include any spacebar, well except for minila or JIS keyboard that use but it's actually just a normal B profile key like a shift. GMK says they don't have any spacebar profile keys smaller than 6.25 and nothing in B profile over 3.

got ya, I figured as much. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:46:47
Ivan, any chance the Dolch set could include a 7u spacebar and/or an option to order extra spacebars?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:57:11
Base set will have 7x winkeyless stuff too. Extra spacebar separate could be possible for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:15:10
Awesome! Thanks :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: BlackDragonTribal on Thu, 15 May 2014, 07:46:54
Just waiting on pricing and updated mock ups from GMK. As soon as I have them I will start up the groupbuy.
For this kit, it will have 2x variation of Esc white/cyan and cyan/dark grey, white on cyan ▲ style arrows WASD replacement, cyan on grey F J, white on cyan ANSI ISO and NP enters, 1.25 and 1x cyan on dark grey win8 keys.
There will be a Dolch base set that will be around $110, a F'n'A rows pack, and an 'odd' mods+nav pack for minila, fc660, choc mini, keycool 84, Pure Pro/Tex, Race, 5000, 1800, and etc.

Hello i am newbine. I don't understand which you wrote

"2x variation of Esc white/cyan and cyan/dark grey" is mean ESC white on cyan & cyan on dark grey?

"white on cyan ANSI ISO" is mean white on cyan mods + nav?

What color is NP?

Can you help me ?

Thanks
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: archer on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:29:00
So this is no longer just an IC for a cyan ESC key, right?

Now we're talking an entire dolch set? along with some other cyan-colored extras?

Either way, count me in! I could always use another GMK dolch set!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:48:15
Either way, count me in! I could always use another GMK dolch set!  :thumb:

This person is right, just want a GMK key-set to go through and finally be made.  Would that be too much to hope for?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:55:10
Either way, count me in! I could always use another GMK dolch set!  :thumb:

This person is right, just want a GMK key-set to go through and finally be made.  Would that be too much to hope for?
Word
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:06:00
This person is right, just want a GMK key-set to go through and finally be made.  Would that be too much to hope for?

Agreed.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 15 May 2014, 12:51:01
You guys will see what everything is really soon. Just waiting on GMK to get back to me... working to resolve some legend/key size combination that I requested for that don't seem available. If the alternate I suggest are not available either, there will be some pad printing but nothing really major.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: BlackDragonTribal on Thu, 15 May 2014, 21:43:08
You guys will see what everything is really soon. Just waiting on GMK to get back to me... working to resolve some legend/key size combination that I requested for that don't seem available. If the alternate I suggest are not available either, there will be some pad printing but nothing really major.

Ok i 'll wait
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 May 2014, 21:49:30
Just waiting on pricing and updated mock ups from GMK. As soon as I have them I will start up the groupbuy.
For this kit, it will have 2x variation of Esc white/cyan and cyan/dark grey, white on cyan ▲ style arrows WASD replacement, cyan on grey F J, white on cyan ANSI ISO and NP enters, 1.25 and 1x cyan on dark grey win8 keys.
There will be a Dolch base set that will be around $110, a F'n'A rows pack, and an 'odd' mods+nav pack for minila, fc660, choc mini, keycool 84, Pure Pro/Tex, Race, 5000, 1800, and etc.

I'm totally in for this.  Surprised I only saw this IC now.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:18:41
You guys will see what everything is really soon.

Okay Ivan we will wait, but you know what that is like here on Geekhack, waiting is what no cap-head wants to hear.  Patience is a dirty word amongst most of us here.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: BlackDragonTribal on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:57:00
You guys will see what everything is really soon.

Okay Ivan we will wait, but you know what that is like here on Geekhack, waiting is what no cap-head wants to hear.  Patience is a dirty word amongst most of us here.

Yeah ivan can you set time? example like June....
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 15 May 2014, 23:27:31
In for Esc, WASD, Enter, F5-F8, entire nav cluster. :)
This This This!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 16 May 2014, 15:44:55
I expect to have quotes and everything next week some time. We got all the legend stuff settled.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 16 May 2014, 19:54:46
I expect to have quotes and everything next week some time. We got all the legend stuff settled.

Just want to finally see a GMK complete key-set here.  I won't buy anymore SP rubbish until this one key-set has been accepted and made by GMK.  That is my hope and furthest desire in seeing this happen finally.  We have not had a decent all GMK key-set made for years.

Time to end our misery and dread Ivan and make sure this one gets put through GMK's molds as soon as possible  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 16 May 2014, 20:36:30
I think it will make it. Even the all dark grey set came really close and I know no where as near as popular as Dolch. If we can get big Korean and Chinese keyboard forums to participate too it will be no problem for sure... might even hit into the 400 tier.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Fri, 16 May 2014, 20:39:06
I think it will make it. Even the all dark grey set came really close and I know no where as near as popular as Dolch. If we can get big Korean and Chinese keyboard forums to participate too it will be no problem for sure... might even hit into the 400 tier.

That dark grey :'(
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 16 May 2014, 21:33:44
I know... maybe sometime later we can do a little alphas kit to make mono set to interchange with Dolch.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 16 May 2014, 22:53:42
I know... maybe sometime later we can do a little alphas kit to make mono set to interchange with Dolch.
Good good :thumb: i am expecting that  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: BlackDragonTribal on Sat, 17 May 2014, 01:15:59
I expect to have quotes and everything next week some time. We got all the legend stuff settled.
goodddddddddddddddd  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: garoti on Sat, 17 May 2014, 01:37:22
Great, ivan.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 17 May 2014, 02:00:49
I think it will make it. Even the all dark grey set came really close and I know no where as near as popular as Dolch. If we can get big Korean and Chinese keyboard forums to participate too it will be no problem for sure... might even hit into the 400 tier.

There was a Dolch group buy in Korea not too long ago and a China forum was in it too. I doubt that this group buy will get many orders from China or Korea. But it should still hit MOQ very easily.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Sat, 17 May 2014, 06:58:19
I know... maybe sometime later we can do a little alphas kit to make mono set to interchange with Dolch.

You're saying all the right things!
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: welsinki on Sat, 17 May 2014, 11:39:23
(http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/23695000/ngbbs4f289da3aa35a.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: ideus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 08:24:27
Just waiting on pricing and updated mock ups from GMK. As soon as I have them I will start up the groupbuy.
For this kit, it will have 2x variation of Esc white/cyan and cyan/dark grey, white on cyan ▲ style arrows WASD replacement, cyan on grey F J, white on cyan ANSI ISO and NP enters, 1.25 and 1x cyan on dark grey win8 keys.
There will be a Dolch base set that will be around $110, a F'n'A rows pack, and an 'odd' mods+nav pack for minila, fc660, choc mini, keycool 84, Pure Pro/Tex, Race, 5000, 1800, and etc.

Have not read all the thread, but are you considering to keep the mods as a separated subset?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 18 May 2014, 08:31:40
No the normal modifier selection will be part of the base set.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 18 May 2014, 11:01:33
No the normal modifier selection will be part of the base set.
I like this  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Kakkun on Mon, 19 May 2014, 09:13:38
Would love to get my hands on a Dolch set (though it does seem pretty pricey)

Any info on what sort of profiles they'll come in?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 19 May 2014, 09:18:43
Would love to get my hands on a Dolch set (though it does seem pretty pricey)

Any info on what sort of profiles they'll come in?

This is the cheapest GMK groupbuy I have ever seen.

Cherry profile.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 19 May 2014, 09:39:44
Preview:
BASE
[attachimg=1]

F'n'A add on
[attachimg=2]

Color pack
[attachimg=3]

ODD mods
[attachimg=4]
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Mon, 19 May 2014, 09:48:44
EEK! I'm down for base and all the options :)

I know you mentioned it earlier but I don't see it in the mock-ups, could a spacebar-only addon be added?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 19 May 2014, 09:54:40
I'm very interested. Would look great with my Dolch PAC case :D.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: sth on Mon, 19 May 2014, 09:57:53
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1026161/no-god-no-o.gif)

i don't have the money for this!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:02:04
GG buying colour pack 100%
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:19:09
So down for it.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: bueller on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:26:07
I'm in for a color pack, that looks sexy and would probably go with a lot of different sets.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:34:20
Looking good Ivan.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:40:29
Ivan, you are awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:43:14
Why blank windows keys in the base set? Just curious.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:51:17
Blank Windows keys... because I am tired of endless debate about which style logo and better for Apple/NIX user.
Yes there will be extra spacebar... no need for a mock up of spacebar. There may also be EDOX add on... maybe a blank 37 set or something like this if the price isn't stupid.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:56:22
Preview:
BASE
(Attachment Link)

F'n'A add on
(Attachment Link)

Color pack
(Attachment Link)

ODD mods
(Attachment Link)

Ivan you are a GMK keycap set hero lol
How much would these cost exactly?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:01:19
Now to wait for the price. :(
For the base set I assume 104 keys + the ANSI & tsangan add ons right.

Do you think colour pack windows key will look alright with the base set tho..  :-X
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:01:52
Base should be something like $110. I don't have final price for the other yet. Should not be too high though... well maybe the ODD pack will be more pricy as there is lot of keys there.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:03:46

Base should be something like $110. I don't have final price for the other yet. Should not be too high though... well maybe the ODD pack will be more pricy as there is lot of keys there.
That's sick!
That's with some pad printing too!
You've outdone yourself, ivan
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:05:11
Blank Windows keys... because I am tired of endless debate about which style logo and better for Apple/NIX user.
Yes there will be extra spacebar... no need for a mock up of spacebar. There may also be EDOX add on... maybe a blank 37 set or something like this if the price isn't stupid.
I understand. Impatiently waiting for pricing. Are you still waiting on gmk or just need to make the GB thread?

oops you answered above.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:11:41
Base should be something like $110. I don't have final price for the other yet. Should not be too high though... well maybe the ODD pack will be more pricy as there is lot of keys there.

=O IN totally IN
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:15:26
Base should be something like $110. I don't have final price for the other yet. Should not be too high though... well maybe the ODD pack will be more pricy as there is lot of keys there.

110 seems alright. I'm going for base + colour pack xD first GMK set. Excited :D
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:26:04
The first thing which i want talk. This is big group buy with too much options. It is almost fit all layout which i know :). But i hope you 'll add Ergodox pack later. But i already don't like color pack. It seems not fit dolch, sorry but i just say thing i think :(. And in 3 pack: Base, Fn, Odd; i have seen more key is same same. That can effect MOQ? I see why you make mock up like this. It is good for odd order but it make confuse for people wanna order more than or equal 2 in 3 that pack. That is all thing i feel when i see your mock up. Anyway thanks your effort :thumb:

In additonal, 110 is great price for base set. I think i 'll go to base,fn,odd :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:31:35
I thought the shift keys would actually say "shift" on them.

The originative dolch gb had the shift text on them.

(http://i.imgur.com/HTPsAtD.jpeg)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:33:03
I thought the shift keys would actually say "shift" on them.

The originative dolch gb had the shift text on them.

(http://i.imgur.com/HTPsAtD.jpeg) (http://i.imgur.com/HTPsAtD.jpeg)


They do when the other modifiers have text, but notice tab, caps lock, enter, backspace are symbol only.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Razor Lotus on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:38:58
Am I missing something?

The pictures and the mockups look slightly different from this :(

(http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg)

The mods in the picture look alot darker, maybe even blackish already

Or am I seeing wrongly?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:39:53
Will the color pack F and J actually have raised nubs like they do in the mockup or will they be scooped like the base kit is?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:40:52
For ISO user, 'shift' is a problem because it doesn't fit well on 1.25 key... and also the arrow alignment is different on text and no text for whatever reason so even then it would mismatch. Other mods also then don't have text so it is more uniform.

What keys are same in each packs? Only duplicate key is extra 2.25 shift in ODD pack for FC660. F'n'A have same legend... appear to be redundant but it have different row profiles F and A like original 1000 set.
(http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/images/mx_keydim_cyl.gif)
Modern sets use double E and double B instead which is what BASE configuration.

Mock ups are not 100% color accurate... also that picture is Dolch alpha with SP black Cherryesque font modifiers so it's not even the same thing.
Color pack F J will have homing bar, it's something different to have.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:41:21
Am I missing something?

The pictures and the mockups look slightly different from this :(

Show Image
(http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg)


The mods in the picture look alot darker, maybe even blackish already

Or am I seeing wrongly?

That picture isn't dolch.
It's the dolch alphas with black mods.
Dolch colourway is what you see in Ivan's preview pictures. Go google some dolch keyboards or check 'dolch' on ebay for the right colourways
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: bazh on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:41:23
Am I missing something?

The pictures and the mockups look slightly different from this :(

Show Image
(http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg)


The mods in the picture look alot darker, maybe even blackish already

Or am I seeing wrongly?

Gmk mock-up are usually lighter than they might appear


But, why blank windows key, why :(
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:47:46
I was hoping for white-on-green WASD and/or F5-F8, but buying the colour pack nevertheless.

Great work as always Ivan.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:49:43
Blank Windows keys... because I am tired of endless debate about which style logo and better for Apple/NIX user.
If you want Win8 key, you can get color pack. I thought to do just WASD, but I thought the arrow would be more interesting for something different.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 12:03:36
Oh that mean R0 same profile F???
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: cphead on Mon, 19 May 2014, 12:06:38
Sweeeet. The dark gray group buy lives on  :'( ... as dolch  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 12:08:35
Blank Windows keys... because I am tired of endless debate about which style logo and better for Apple/NIX user.
If you want Win8 key, you can get color pack. I thought to do just WASD, but I thought the arrow would be more interesting for something different.

Long shot but any chance of getting blanks as well as the Dolch set windows key? :| I know people will argue and all. Maybe add it in the colour packs? Cause most of the people wants a full Dolch set I assume.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 19 May 2014, 12:35:08
Mockup looks amazing.  I'm totally in when this goes live.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: Razor Lotus on Mon, 19 May 2014, 13:13:55
For ISO user, 'shift' is a problem because it doesn't fit well on 1.25 key... and also the arrow alignment is different on text and no text for whatever reason so even then it would mismatch. Other mods also then don't have text so it is more uniform.

What keys are same in each packs? Only duplicate key is extra 2.25 shift in ODD pack for FC660. F'n'A have same legend... appear to be redundant but it have different row profiles F and A like original 1000 set.
Show Image
(http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/images/mx_keydim_cyl.gif)

Modern sets use double E and double B instead which is what BASE configuration.

Mock ups are not 100% color accurate... also that picture is Dolch alpha with SP black Cherryesque font modifiers so it's not even the same thing.
Color pack F J will have homing bar, it's something different to have.


That picture isn't dolch.
It's the dolch alphas with black mods.
Dolch colourway is what you see in Ivan's preview pictures. Go google some dolch keyboards or check 'dolch' on ebay for the right colourways

Alright thanks alot for your replies :) I'll still be in on this
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 13:44:26
Does the majority prefer no text mods. Or are you just doing it how you like it Ivan? Seems like a big change just cause of the iso shift. Maybe just give them a blank right shift in the iso kit
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 19 May 2014, 13:52:47
Does the majority prefer no text mods. Or are you just doing it how you like it Ivan? Seems like a big change just cause of the iso shift. Maybe just give them a blank right shift in the iso kit

I'm running my GMK dolch set with symbol only mods.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 14:02:01
Does the majority prefer no text mods. Or are you just doing it how you like it Ivan? Seems like a big change just cause of the iso shift. Maybe just give them a blank right shift in the iso kit

I'm running my GMK dolch set with symbol only mods.
Yeah me too. I am fan of only mod symbol
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Mon, 19 May 2014, 14:28:47
Does the majority prefer no text mods. Or are you just doing it how you like it Ivan? Seems like a big change just cause of the iso shift. Maybe just give them a blank right shift in the iso kit

I'm running my GMK dolch set with symbol only mods.
Yeah me too. I am fan of only mod symbol

Ditto
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 14:41:54
That's cool then. I'm in regardless.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 15:23:36
Either way, I'm still down for a set.  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: adamseto on Mon, 19 May 2014, 23:37:59
Dear Ivan

I hope open GB ASAP . I will forllow GB of you .
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:03:44
Do you mind to add another color pack with red color???

Base should be something like $110. I don't have final price for the other yet. Should not be too high though... well maybe the ODD pack will be more pricy as there is lot of keys there.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: MrClaus on Tue, 20 May 2014, 04:09:20
will this dolch be in abs (made by gmk?) or pbt?

pbt would be terrific for my long-lasting collection  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: bazh on Tue, 20 May 2014, 04:16:25
will this dolch be in abs (made by gmk?) or pbt?

pbt would be terrific for my long-lasting collection  :p
Gmk doubleshot, you can't have PBT Dolch with dyesub, and no one wants pad printed
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 21 May 2014, 22:48:39
Still waiting on GMK?
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 03:21:24
Still waiting on GMK?
Yeah sure :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:15:22
Nope, just waiting on moderator approval.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:37:41
Nope, just waiting on moderator approval.
Sweet!!
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:38:38
if anyone can't wait you can see it up at DT ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: cphead on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:45:37
if anyone can't wait you can see it up at DT ;)

The colorpack is sweeeeet.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: swornxin on Sun, 25 May 2014, 21:54:09
I would be interested in this for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: avtar on Sun, 25 May 2014, 22:14:45
I would be interested in this for sure.

It's happening, buddy http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.0 Get in on it.
Title: Re: [IC] Dolch Green ESC
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 26 May 2014, 16:24:01
On that note, >LOCK<