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Offline sl70309

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 25 April 2019, 11:32:25 »
Quote from: onefivenine on Wed, 24 April 2019, 23:38:42
Quote from: fireworm on Wed, 24 April 2019, 23:22:04
Quote from: sl70309 on Wed, 24 April 2019, 23:19:27
what makes this worth $300-400 more than those $400-500 keyboards? no offense, just want to know if there is difference in material used or other stuffs. thanks
PVD brass bottom. Lots of machining for the curves, I think. A few nice included peripherals (case) too.

This.

Yes, brass is a relatively cheap material. However.. machining, hand polishing, and PVD finishing such a large piece of brass is not cheap. The cabled connectors and pelican case are included at bulk per unit pricing.

Thanks. few other questions:

1. who will be the manufacturer?
2. is there a top case brass option?
3. $850 is most expensive GroupBuy keyboard i have seen in this community, and i think everyone is worry about Quality Control as no one is willing to spending 850 on an imperfect keyboard.
4. if you can make Pelican case as an option, i think this will attract more people to join.
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Offline onefivenine

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 25 April 2019, 13:06:36 »
Quote from: sl70309 on Thu, 25 April 2019, 11:32:25
Quote from: onefivenine on Wed, 24 April 2019, 23:38:42
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Quote from: sl70309 on Wed, 24 April 2019, 23:19:27
what makes this worth $300-400 more than those $400-500 keyboards? no offense, just want to know if there is difference in material used or other stuffs. thanks
PVD brass bottom. Lots of machining for the curves, I think. A few nice included peripherals (case) too.

This.

Yes, brass is a relatively cheap material. However.. machining, hand polishing, and PVD finishing such a large piece of brass is not cheap. The cabled connectors and pelican case are included at bulk per unit pricing.

Thanks. few other questions:

1. who will be the manufacturer?
2. is there a top case brass option?
3. $850 is most expensive GroupBuy keyboard i have seen in this community, and i think everyone is worry about Quality Control as no one is willing to spending 850 on an imperfect keyboard.
4. if you can make Pelican case as an option, i think this will attract more people to join.


1. Santa ;)
2. Probably not...this contradicts with the concerns you had previously and for question 4?
3. I'm 100% concerned with QC as well, which brings us back to the cost.
4. With or without the pelican case it will still be $850. The case was a two birds with one stone idea, but I can remove this from the kit entirely.
« Last Edit: Thu, 25 April 2019, 13:10:22 by onefivenine »
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Offline ptiede

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 25 April 2019, 16:17:01 »


Please keep the pelican case. That thing is awesome, and I would love to have one.
« Last Edit: Sat, 27 April 2019, 09:11:13 by ptiede »
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Offline Jkush463

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 26 April 2019, 23:22:33 »
yeah keep the peli if the price isnt changing i want this thing to get to me not ****ed up.
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Offline rottencat

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #54 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 13:10:51 »
Interested, but will the PCB support ISO?
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Offline Starston3

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[IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 13:37:54 »
Quote from: rottencat on Sat, 27 April 2019, 13:10:51
Interested, but will the PCB support ISO?

Hiney's h87a pcb supports ISO.
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Offline xondat

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #56 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 14:17:24 »
Quote from: Starston3 on Sat, 27 April 2019, 13:37:54
Quote from: rottencat on Sat, 27 April 2019, 13:10:51
Interested, but will the PCB support ISO?

Hiney's h87a pcb supports ISO.

Plate doesn't though :eek:
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Offline damagepoint

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 19:02:46 »
Quote from: xondat on Sat, 27 April 2019, 14:17:24
Quote from: Starston3 on Sat, 27 April 2019, 13:37:54
Quote from: rottencat on Sat, 27 April 2019, 13:10:51
Interested, but will the PCB support ISO?

Hiney's h87a pcb supports ISO.

Plate doesn't though :eek:

159 said in discord he offer fixed iso plates, as well as releasing plate files.
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Offline onefivenine

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #58 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 20:11:10 »
Quote from: damagepoint on Sat, 27 April 2019, 19:02:46
Quote from: xondat on Sat, 27 April 2019, 14:17:24
Quote from: Starston3 on Sat, 27 April 2019, 13:37:54
Quote from: rottencat on Sat, 27 April 2019, 13:10:51
Interested, but will the PCB support ISO?

Hiney's h87a pcb supports ISO.

Plate doesn't though :eek:

159 said in discord he offer fixed iso plates, as well as releasing plate files.

Yes, I will offer fixed plates for ISO if buyers can agree on a single plate material. I won't have it available on the product page but you can send me an email (I'm assuming a small amount of orders for this layout).

Also, I have ordered a final pre-production prototype with a PVD silver base, WK top, and pvd brass plate to show case.
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Offline aceventura25

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 20:40:14 »
Is this the heaviest board that's been done as a group buy here?
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Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #60 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 20:55:31 »
If you are prototyping PVD silver, is there a reason to not offer that in the gb?
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Offline Rise

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #61 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 21:09:09 »
Quote from: aceventura25 on Sat, 27 April 2019, 20:40:14
Is this the heaviest board that's been done as a group buy here?

yeah, probably. The original weigh-ins we did on the protos were insane.
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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #62 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 21:11:35 »
Quote from: Rise on Sat, 27 April 2019, 21:09:09
Quote from: aceventura25 on Sat, 27 April 2019, 20:40:14
Is this the heaviest board that's been done as a group buy here?

yeah, probably. The original weigh-ins we did on the protos were insane.

no 1 with brass is 11.8lbs unbuilt, 456GT is ~12-13lbs
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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #63 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 21:25:30 »
Quote from: Puddsy on Sat, 27 April 2019, 21:11:35
Quote from: Rise on Sat, 27 April 2019, 21:09:09
Quote from: aceventura25 on Sat, 27 April 2019, 20:40:14
Is this the heaviest board that's been done as a group buy here?

yeah, probably. The original weigh-ins we did on the protos were insane.

no 1 with brass is 11.8lbs unbuilt, 456GT is ~12-13lbs

thanks for correcting me, kind of new to the hobby so I appreciate a bit of the history. :)
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Offline onefivenine

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 21:40:01 »
Quote from: fireworm on Sat, 27 April 2019, 20:55:31
If you are prototyping PVD silver, is there a reason to not offer that in the gb?

I am actually going to change the options:
Silver tops will come with silver pvd bottom
Black tops will come with black pvd bottom
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Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 21:48:26 »
Quote from: onefivenine on Sat, 27 April 2019, 21:40:01
Quote from: fireworm on Sat, 27 April 2019, 20:55:31
If you are prototyping PVD silver, is there a reason to not offer that in the gb?

I am actually going to change the options:
Silver tops will come with silver pvd bottom
Black tops will come with black pvd bottom
Cool. Might have to bite...
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Offline mrpetrov

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 23:10:50 »
So if Jane v2 CE sold 100 spots in 2 seconds, based on my highly proprietary algorithm it should take Kepler...
... <calculating>
... <calculating>
... <calculating>
...1 second to sell 50 spots?
« Last Edit: Sun, 28 April 2019, 00:12:13 by mrpetrov »
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Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 23:33:00 »
That's what I was worried about. This won't take very long.
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Offline Moac

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 00:05:38 »
Maybe limit the Kepler for one day to , 1 per purchase and only one from that IP (if possible).

Board looks stellar , it’s between the Kepler and the satisfaction 75%. Choices choices.


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Offline ptiede

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 00:06:49 »
Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 27 April 2019, 23:33:00
That's what I was worried about. This won't take very long.
Same I'm gonna have to be ready to get one if these.
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Offline mrpetrov

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 00:12:57 »
Quote from: Moac on Sun, 28 April 2019, 00:05:38
Board looks stellar , it’s between the Kepler and the satisfaction 75%. Choices choices.

Do whatever you gotta do to get both imo.
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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 00:19:53 »
Quote from: mrpetrov on Sat, 27 April 2019, 23:10:50
So if Jane v2 CE sold 100 spots in 2 seconds, based on my highly proprietary algorithm it should take Kepler...
... <calculating>
... <calculating>
... <calculating>
...1 second to sell 50 spots?

at nearly double the price? nah

i'm not sure it'll sell out
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Offline Jkush463

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 01:05:33 »
alot of people talk big but dont have the wallet to keep up, im sure this one wont sell out too fast at the price point.
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Offline Solotov

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #73 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 02:52:20 »
When will the GB start? Can’t wait to enter thai one asap after a disappointment on Jane Cancel Edition v2..
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Offline Surefoot

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #74 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 09:41:39 »
I might join for a brass ISO plate...
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Offline onefivenine

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 02 May 2019, 13:20:45 »


Hoping to get clear GB date/info this weekend. Thanks for your patience.
« Last Edit: Thu, 02 May 2019, 13:23:44 by onefivenine »
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Offline King4477

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 02 May 2019, 15:13:00 »
Might be too good looking for my dingy office.
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Offline mrpetrov

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 02 May 2019, 15:57:30 »
Quote from: onefivenine on Thu, 02 May 2019, 13:20:45
Show Image


Hoping to get clear GB date/info this weekend. Thanks for your patience.

That is a stunningly puckered little ring.
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Offline iammeuru

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #78 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 01:57:25 »
Thanks for being on the ball by wanting to get GB info up early enough for everyone to know... I'm going to be ready to pull the trigger right when you open it up... I was sad to not get in on No.2 or Jane V2 CE (the latter of which I just didn't know about the GB info on, because of how quick it went from info to GB opening)...

Frankly, Kepler, HBCP, and IRMA (plastic Alice too, but IRMA moreso) are the upcoming board GBs I'm truely excited about; I CAN'T miss out on the opportunity to jump in on these if I can help it.

You rock, and that board looks spectacular. I can't wait!
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Offline onefivenine

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #79 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 02:48:34 »
Quote from: iammeuru on Sat, 04 May 2019, 01:57:25
Thanks for being on the ball by wanting to get GB info up early enough for everyone to know... I'm going to be ready to pull the trigger right when you open it up... I was sad to not get in on No.2 or Jane V2 CE (the latter of which I just didn't know about the GB info on, because of how quick it went from info to GB opening)...

Frankly, Kepler, HBCP, and IRMA (plastic Alice too, but IRMA moreso) are the upcoming board GBs I'm truely excited about; I CAN'T miss out on the opportunity to jump in on these if I can help it.

You rock, and that board looks spectacular. I can't wait!

Thanks for your support!
Enjoy:
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Offline Slash Emperor

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Re: [IC] Kepler (Update: pricing and kit details)
« Reply #80 on: Mon, 06 May 2019, 07:30:25 »
Quote from: onefivenine on Sat, 04 May 2019, 02:48:34
Quote from: iammeuru on Sat, 04 May 2019, 01:57:25
Thanks for being on the ball by wanting to get GB info up early enough for everyone to know... I'm going to be ready to pull the trigger right when you open it up... I was sad to not get in on No.2 or Jane V2 CE (the latter of which I just didn't know about the GB info on, because of how quick it went from info to GB opening)...

Frankly, Kepler, HBCP, and IRMA (plastic Alice too, but IRMA moreso) are the upcoming board GBs I'm truely excited about; I CAN'T miss out on the opportunity to jump in on these if I can help it.

You rock, and that board looks spectacular. I can't wait!

Thanks for your support!
Enjoy:
Show Image


Bottom one looks sharp with that carbon fiber plate, wow.
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Offline onefivenine

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Re: [IC] Kepler (GB date: May 10)
« Reply #81 on: Wed, 08 May 2019, 02:27:59 »
Couple of shots with some keysets:

GMK Muted


GMK Camping


GMK Space Cadet



GMK Phantom


GMK Taro
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Offline ywcsam

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Re: [IC] Kepler (GB date: May 10)
« Reply #82 on: Wed, 08 May 2019, 16:12:58 »
So mix and match is not possible? I like that render where it's silver top and black bottom.
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Offline onefivenine

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Re: [IC] Kepler (GB date: May 10)
« Reply #83 on: Wed, 08 May 2019, 20:22:30 »
Quote from: ywcsam on Wed, 08 May 2019, 16:12:58
So mix and match is not possible? I like that render where it's silver top and black bottom.

To keep logistics simple, they will be fixed to all black or silver.
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Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

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Re: [IC] Kepler (GB date: May 10)
« Reply #84 on: Wed, 08 May 2019, 20:37:45 »
That may be the most accurate color of GMK phantom I've ever seen.

Beautiful board you've made.
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Offline PiotrMKG

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Re: [IC] Kepler (GB date: May 10)
« Reply #85 on: Fri, 10 May 2019, 13:05:53 »
I didn’t find anyone asking. Where is it shipped from?
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Offline xondat

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Re: [IC] Kepler (GB date: May 10)
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 10 May 2019, 13:07:30 »
Quote from: PiotrMKG on Fri, 10 May 2019, 13:05:53
I didn’t find anyone asking. Where is it shipped from?

Fairly sure 159 is from the US.
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Offline mrpetrov

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Re: [IC] Kepler (GB date: May 10)
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 10 May 2019, 13:17:08 »
Yes it's shipped from the US.
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Re: [IC] Kepler (GB date: May 10)
« Reply #88 on: Sat, 11 May 2019, 01:33:05 »
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