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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #600 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 17:43:46 »
got my invoice, looks like im going to have alot going on. DOX, Filco Custom Controller, KMAC and now GH60 Proto Board

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #601 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 17:44:41 »
I want Stainless Steel Beast said it might be a possibility

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #602 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 17:45:30 »
Well, keycaps, naturally. But who doesn't have more sets of keycaps than keyboards to put them on? If not, you haven't been a member of Geekhack for very long. :P

I was thinking along the lines of the Korean custom group buys, which always come with a PCB, plate, and case.
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #603 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 18:06:25 »
Plates are going to be ~$11-$13 like the poker. Even though I got ~90 poker plates ordered, we hit a price ceiling at just 20 plates.
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #604 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 18:09:47 »
Well, keycaps, naturally. But who doesn't have more sets of keycaps than keyboards to put them on? If not, you haven't been a member of Geekhack for very long. :P

I was thinking along the lines of the Korean custom group buys, which always come with a PCB, plate, and case.

That's right. I actually bought a set for this keyboard before I started designing the PCB;)
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #605 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 18:19:58 »
"Invoices" sent.
If you wanted a prototype and didn't get a PM, write to me.
Man I got so busy I forgot about this. What is the prototype layout?

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #606 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 18:22:08 »
The layout is whatever you make it.
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #607 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 18:22:41 »
There is several options for layout, it is up to you to decide if you make it ansi or iso and with what bottom row.

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #608 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 18:25:53 »
The layout is whatever you make it.
Thanks, PM sending; sorry for being late. Just going to do a somewhat Poker replica but with far better firmware.
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #609 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 18:42:51 »
To everybody who is ordering / has ordered a proto kit: please read at least the last 5 pages carefully, or even better, the whole thread.
Unfortunately I'm getting questions which suggest that some of you may not know exactly what you're buying, so I don't want you to be let down when you receive it.

Shortcut:
* the prototype includes a PCB and all the smd components, which you have to solder yourself
* it comes with no warranty. No warranty means no warranty, even if it does not work at all
* there is just one PCB, which supports various layouts (iso and ansi), one of the purposes of this group buy is to test whether all the layouts work correctly
* the kit does not contain a case, keycaps or switches
* it may take some time before the kit comes to you, don't expect it earlier than in a month
* I will mark your payments as shipped so that paypal doesn't lock my account, this will not mean anything has been shipped
« Last Edit: Thu, 25 October 2012, 18:47:44 by komar007 »
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #610 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 19:11:12 »
I've just ordered the parts, so the list is now officially closed.
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #611 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 20:49:15 »
jdcarpe, can you link the PCB layout file in the OP? (a png with a color per layer is fine) i'd like to check it over for a) sanity and to b) bucket list what i'll need to do to help test the proto

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #612 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 20:51:42 »
jdcarpe, can you link the PCB layout file in the OP? (a png with a color per layer is fine) i'd like to check it over for a) sanity and to b) bucket list what i'll need to do to help test the proto

Better yet, link the github with all the PCB files up to date https://github.com/komar007/ghkb

EDIT: KiCad keeps telling me I'm using an old version of pcbnew, what version are you using :s
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #613 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 21:21:05 »
jdcarpe, can you link the PCB layout file in the OP? (a png with a color per layer is fine) i'd like to check it over for a) sanity and to b) bucket list what i'll need to do to help test the proto

Not sure if that's what you're looking for. If not, post the .png and I'll link it in the OP.
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #614 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 21:51:29 »
the PNG in the OP is just the backside, no? ie, the diodes are on the backside of the board? (otherwise they look like they're in the keep-out zone of the switches) can you post the front too?

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #615 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 21:56:45 »
It looks like many of the switches, especially the bottom modifiers and right side needs to be mounted sideways.

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #616 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 22:59:35 »
Gah, just joined the forum and found out about this. Is there any room to still get in?

edit: Good to know. But then I just saw the Model M SSK clone thread too!  :eek:
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #617 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 23:08:54 »
It's just the prototype... No reason to freak out.
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #618 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 23:18:23 »
You have a Filco Zero Ski? WTF? When did this happen?

Sorry for the derailment.
Yhea, I made a WTB in the Classifieds, and someone put me in touch with Diatec to purchase one of their last display units.  I paid through the nose - and a week later one showed up for sale on DT for 30 euro :(  I love it though, it's a wonderful board.

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Paid.  For all those questioning ISO functionality:   Despite living in the US I will be building it ISO for my european self     :p
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #619 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 23:23:24 »
That's quite selfless of you.

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #620 on: Thu, 25 October 2012, 23:47:11 »
That's quite selfless of you.
I know there was a small demographic interested in the ISO option.   It was actually the selling point for me.  I love my Poker but it's awkward to type on.
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #621 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 00:17:15 »
Well, keycaps, naturally. But who doesn't have more sets of keycaps than keyboards to put them on? If not, you haven't been a member of Geekhack for very long. :P

I was thinking along the lines of the Korean custom group buys, which always come with a PCB, plate, and case.
I've been here for a year and have yet to get a full cap set... :(

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #622 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 00:19:28 »
Well, keycaps, naturally. But who doesn't have more sets of keycaps than keyboards to put them on? If not, you haven't been a member of Geekhack for very long. :P

I was thinking along the lines of the Korean custom group buys, which always come with a PCB, plate, and case.
I've been here for a year and have yet to get a full cap set... :(

I have 4 full sets, 1 partial and 2 that are in the GH phase. 7 sets, 2 MX boards

And I do have 2 sets for my SSK
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #623 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 00:41:36 »
Wanna sell me a set? :P

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #624 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 00:43:29 »
Wanna sell me a set? :P

I do :) booger/mint green PBT?
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #625 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 00:48:06 »
tempting...

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #626 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 02:22:13 »
jdcarpe, can you link the PCB layout file in the OP? (a png with a color per layer is fine) i'd like to check it over for a) sanity and to b) bucket list what i'll need to do to help test the proto

Better yet, link the github with all the PCB files up to date https://github.com/komar007/ghkb

EDIT: KiCad keeps telling me I'm using an old version of pcbnew, what version are you using :s
I'm using bleeding edge from the repo, cloned a few days ago.
It didn't actually compile, I had to fix it myself, sorry for the inconvenience:D

As for layout for you to check before sending, give me a couple of hours to finalize the artwork and I'll post nice PNGs.
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #627 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 04:49:43 »
I'm not sure if you're still taking interest, but colour me interested. Never saw this thread til now and it'll be a long time of reading before I catch up.

I am liking this project a lot..

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #628 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 04:55:30 »
Thanks, the interest list is stalled now. It seems there won't be problems with producing enough boards;)
Stay tuned.
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #629 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 15:52:00 »
I honestly think we need to try to put something spectacular together for the case, similar to what they do for 356 boards. Really nice design, custom brass inserts with a nice logo placard.

We just need to find a shop capable of such awesomeness, and of course, someone well versed in CAD for the design.

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #630 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 16:41:41 »
i think case design is important point, too.
what kind of material .. color... it seems not easy..


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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #631 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 16:44:23 »
Definitely, leesofi. I mean, it should be a complete experience, not just a PCB to slap in a Poker.

I am going to sketch a couple of designs up, and see what we can come up with, logistically.

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #632 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 16:44:35 »
I want Beasts stainless case hands down!

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #633 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 16:58:52 »
I want Beasts stainless case hands down!

I still need to ask my laser guy if he can cut 1/4" stainless or aluminum. If not, I'll talk to my waterjet guy, he should be able to cut stuff up to 1/2" no matter the material with a super nice edge quality
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #634 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 17:01:13 »
I want Beasts stainless case hands down!

I still need to ask my laser guy if he can cut 1/4" stainless or aluminum. If not, I'll talk to my waterjet guy, he should be able to cut stuff up to 1/2" no matter the material with a super nice edge quality
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #635 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 17:22:06 »
Just a quick draft of what I was thinking. Possibly a 2-pc case (top and bottom parts) with a fitting for a plate.


There would be a cutout for a brass plate embossed with the GH60, and geekhack.org in the middle of the inside, or possibly the bottom (backside) of the case.


This would be Aluminum, anodized.


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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #636 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 17:22:33 »
What about a 3d printed case?

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #637 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 17:24:26 »
I dont think you can print metal

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #638 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 17:25:28 »
Actually you can print metal, the Swedish guy was going to print Ti spacebars n stuff

What about a 3d printed case?

I haven't seen any good 3d printed cases :'(
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #639 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 17:29:55 »
Here are the current pcb files.
I am not a professional electronics designer, so if you have any knowledge or know someone who has, please comment or show it to someone to help fix errors before prototype production.
I'm attaching a zip with gerbers, schematic and renders of both sides.
Top side:
6787-0
Bottom side:

6789-1


jdcarpe, could you update the OP with this package and replace the current render?
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #640 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 17:51:48 »
When this board is completed can we get the Gerber's for the community?

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #641 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 18:51:23 »
Actually you can print metal, the Swedish guy was going to print Ti spacebars n stuff

What about a 3d printed case?

I haven't seen any good 3d printed cases :'(

Wow, I didn't know metal printing at all.

suka at DESKTHORITY showed his very nice ergo cases from Shapeways.
http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/my-diy-keyboard-collection-or-how-i-became-a-kb-geek-t2534.html

I myself like to order (CNC milling?) aluminum case from treble318 when he and his factory come back to the operation.

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #642 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 19:16:11 »
They do have sintered metal 3d printing, also powdered metal in epoxy.
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #643 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 19:43:35 »
I started working on case design a week or two ago in CAD program. I'm trying to have it so that the plate is integrated with the case to hold up the PCB instead of having standoffs that's pushing the PCB up. Basically the plate will the the structural support and the PCB just floats.

What happened to all the other guys that know how to work CAD programs?

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #644 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 19:56:16 »
i am super interested in it!
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #645 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 20:18:01 »
Here are the current pcb files.
I am not a professional electronics designer, so if you have any knowledge or know someone who has, please comment or show it to someone to help fix errors before prototype production.
I'm attaching a zip with gerbers, schematic and renders of both sides.
Top side:
(Attachment Link)
Bottom side:

(Attachment Link)


jdcarpe, could you update the OP with this package and replace the current render?

That is a piece of art you have created komar. Absolutely gorgeous.

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #646 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 20:23:36 »
the plate is integrated with the case to hold up the PCB instead of having standoffs that's pushing the PCB up.


Same here
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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #647 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 22:35:08 »
Something like the LZmini case (designed for MXmini) would be ideal  :cool:


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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #648 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 22:51:08 »
Count me in

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Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #649 on: Fri, 26 October 2012, 23:47:27 »
I'll see what I can mock up in my free time... I have AutoCAD Inventor and Solidworks that I can tinker with...