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Title: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Matrix-Lab on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:27:52
3th March update:
 
  Everything is ready now.
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22th Feb update:
 
  Added a lot details;
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Hi friends of Geekhack!

  Finally, we can take our number series overseas!

  If you have followed us before, you should be able to find that 3.0 has inherited many of our previous design languages. At the same time, we also hope that the new design can surprise you!


Render:

  Coating - Starry night:

(https://i.imgur.com/8XZc1pp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FnKxLr7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rpoBSAs.jpg)

  Ano - Blue black:

(https://i.imgur.com/K0RMqMU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OvHcqse.jpg)




Proto:

  Ano - Black:

(https://i.imgur.com/JPe7Hh3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WcdYK0e.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7hpg6wz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2u1L5Px.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ujvpxxk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/shCD3RL.jpg)




Full keyboard kit:

  3.0 offers two styles of the top case for the full kit--------'HEART' or 'EYE'!

  As shown below, the top is screen and the the bottom is led.

  The screen can display gifs like a Matrix 6xv 2.0 Vita screen, but only about 80% the size of a vita.

(https://i.imgur.com/EJo1QSJ.png)




Extra top case kit:

  We will also offer extra case available to purchase, and there are 3 options available.

(https://i.imgur.com/bowh27x.png)





Structure:

  3.0 supporting both gasket and top mount.

  The typec position can be swapped left and right by flipping the decorative strips on the side.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ygx0HgJ.jpg)

  We also set 3 screw holes that can be used screw pins to ensure the position of plate will not move

(https://i.imgur.com/aI2FJSW.png)



PCB:



Layout:

  3.0 offers WK and WKL layout.

  The PCB will provide HS and solder options.

(https://i.imgur.com/osut6WZ.jpg)





Plate:

  Alu or PC.

  Alu plate has the same flex cut as the Matrix ME plate. PC plate doesn't has flex cut.

  HS pcb can only use alu plate.

(https://i.imgur.com/CTJTo0C.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Md39OhA.jpg)




Full keyboard kit color:
(https://i.imgur.com/ALofzNT.jpg)

1. Case (black part)
  You can choose the following color for the case:
 
  Ano: Black/ Silver/ Light grey/ Red/ Light pink/ Light blue/ Lilac/ Blue black
 
  Coating: Black/ China red/Light green/ Tiffany/ Grey blue/ Starry night/ McFlurry/ Grey/ Deep grey/ Pink/ Yellow/ Linen/ Creamy white/ White flash/ Nebula

Ano reference color(render):
(https://i.imgur.com/zqla942.png)

  Coating reference color (phycisal samples):

2. Weight (Blue and red part)

  Blue part is made in brass. Red part is made in alu, but can be upgraded to brass.

(https://i.imgur.com/RA1cuw4.jpg)

3. Other accressioes

  Color and surface treatment decided by Matrix Lab. (ex. the led pieces of the 'Heart' style case)





Extra top case kit color options:

Ano:

Coating:

Ano reference color(render):
(https://i.imgur.com/HLa6z4J.png)

Coating reference color (phycisal samples):



Vendor:



Price:

(https://i.imgur.com/8kI2qxn.png)

  According to Prototypist's price, EU customers will not pay the VAT at checkout, and then Prototypist willreach out to them afterwards giving them a chocie:

  1.Prototypist will ship it and the customer can pay VAT on import later;

  2.Prototypist charges them their countries VAT now and ship it so no tax is paid when it ships;

  (I am very sorry if you are disappointed because there is no EU vendor, but all the vendors for this GB have now been determined, and there will be no new ones.)




GB time:

  Unlimited GB starts from 10th to 17th March.




Estimated shipping time:

  Q4 2022.



To do list:

  We have contacted a few content creators to do stream building/ sound test, but due to the covid outbreak in Shenzhen/China, our proto making has been influenced a lot. I will try to get them to do the test before the GB ends.







Thx for your reading. Plz feel free to leave your comment below.

If you want to be the first to know the update, plz join in our discord server: https://discord.gg/GX9DBFp6zF (https://discord.gg/GX9DBFp6zF)





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Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Matrix-Lab on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:28:36
reserved
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Boy_314 on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:30:19
looking forward to it. hopefully the price is reasonable  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: ZavaZ86 on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:32:33
Pog
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: trumanomar on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:33:07
BASED
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: paulgali on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:33:35
LETS GOOOO
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Moods on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:33:43
nice
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: IMZO on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:34:47
Pumped for this. Red ano 💦💦
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Bub on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:34:53
yes
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: hpkb on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:35:11
THIS
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:35:26
Pls support split backspace LMAO :(
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Pyroo on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:35:44
kinda cute
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: vinhsanity on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:35:44
WK gud
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: shay350 on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:35:54
looks awesome! hope to be able to purchase extra top piece like the China gb!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Zetina on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:35:58
Such a nice keyboard  :eek:

Also consider Rheset as a mexican vendor
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: sirieous on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:35:59
At last. Id love one of these. Please consider dailyclack as an Australian vendor

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Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: dabeshu on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:35:59
Coool
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: bigoldbox on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:36:32
hell yeah
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: WXYaa on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:36:49
Screeeen!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: qats on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:37:29
I just pogged my pants
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: CaptainVinceO2 on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:37:43
Can't wait to put some emotes Dafoe . . .
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Zestrion on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:37:52
poggers, excited to get one
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: o3okevin on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:37:57
let's ****in GO
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: ramensan on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:38:20
Finally, hopefully it is an unlimited gb
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: boyjun on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:39:04
 :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Zyrophr on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:39:59
nice
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: alwaysbless on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:41:39
So nais. Very excite
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: LMarci on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:42:35
I like this, but wish there were more plate options available.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: whirlwind on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:43:17
Units available?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: dalunk on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:44:49
3.0 so good
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: TheEerieCold on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:46:05
Matrix GBs are normally unlimited. I am looking forward to adding more 8x boards to my collection. Can’t wait to see one in person with some of these amazing coatings.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: 7empest on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:46:24
Very cool! My 2.0 has been one of my favorite boards for the longest time. I hope the 3.0 will be just as good, if not better!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:47:25
can we get a color guide before this goes live? some of the color names are a little confusing
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: zekth on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:51:10
Pls support split backspace LMAO :(

on a TKL
(https://media.giphy.com/media/6Xq8JjcT5FBzx6XaEa/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Kokaloo on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:52:37
put me in the screenshot mom
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: autocast on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:54:05
:2_: Can't wait for this! Please add the color option Random :)
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: //gainsborough on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:56:31
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: ign on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:58:04
So gucci
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Tyson on Tue, 18 January 2022, 13:58:17
I'm down!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: vheissu on Tue, 18 January 2022, 14:00:40
can we get a color guide before this goes live? some of the color names are a little confusing
Should be similar to this:

(some of them)

(https://i.imgur.com/cKSa3Ft.jpg)


---------

Def in!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 18 January 2022, 14:03:52
can we get a color guide before this goes live? some of the color names are a little confusing
Should be similar to this:

(some of them)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cKSa3Ft.jpg)



---------

Def in!

there are a bunch here that aren't listed there, like mcflurry and nebula, which i think johnny first custom won't be able to figure out.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Matrix-Lab on Tue, 18 January 2022, 14:05:05
can we get a color guide before this goes live? some of the color names are a little confusing

Sure. Most of the colors with those strange names are sparkling. It's hard to describe with a simple color.

If you check my Youtube channel, there are some video was taken for previous GB: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcQDGjPP7pJOXPEe3RRCwjw
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Andertheker on Tue, 18 January 2022, 14:17:28
Very nice!
What front height and Typing angle is the board going to be?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: brudder on Tue, 18 January 2022, 14:18:46
Looking forward to this. An unlimited GB would be awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Grandmasternoob on Tue, 18 January 2022, 14:19:48
If you check my Youtube channel, there are some video was taken for previous GB: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcQDGjPP7pJOXPEe3RRCwjw

just add the ability to view all the information in the IC form, no time to collect information bit by bit...Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: SourSeoul on Tue, 18 January 2022, 14:23:16
I’m in for 3
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: murpy on Tue, 18 January 2022, 14:28:12
time to swipe  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: snicket on Tue, 18 January 2022, 14:37:30
Very nice!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Tue, 18 January 2022, 14:45:15
very excited for this! 2022 starting out nice  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 18 January 2022, 14:49:58
So ready for a intl. Matrix GB! Also my b-day is in March so that's the perfect excuse to treat myself to ones of these LOL!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Keikenhate on Tue, 18 January 2022, 15:29:53
Just hit me with the  price, im so in!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: PossUmKitteH_XD on Tue, 18 January 2022, 15:32:29
Please consider Daily Clack as a vendor for OCE/Australia
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Zach on Tue, 18 January 2022, 15:38:10
Exciting.  Will the weight color combinations be semi random like past GBs or fixed matching the case?

edit: or will we have the same options as the China GB? managed to find the form
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: bball2 on Tue, 18 January 2022, 15:40:15
How usable will the LCD screen be? Looks to about 1/2 the size of the Vita
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Beerbezerker on Tue, 18 January 2022, 15:41:18
Plz consider making Dailyclack the vendor for OCE region. We LOVE Matrix down here in Australia, too! <3
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Yuinth on Tue, 18 January 2022, 15:51:27
Count me in. Two styles of top case means I'll have to get at least two.

Will Snowing McFlurry make a comeback?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: darthcapn on Tue, 18 January 2022, 15:56:41
The screen in renders looks really small, are there dimensions for it/better renders showing the screen? Also is it possible to increase the screen size?

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Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Crabzul on Tue, 18 January 2022, 16:05:56
count me in
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Silk on Tue, 18 January 2022, 16:12:40
Consider DailyClack for vendor please.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Grandmasternoob on Tue, 18 January 2022, 16:18:45
Yeah,Novelkeys and DailyClack please!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: busytimmy on Tue, 18 January 2022, 16:20:57
nais

yes, pls consider Daily Clack
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: linell on Tue, 18 January 2022, 16:28:25
I am a degenerate split bs and rs user
pls add support
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Wasabiz on Tue, 18 January 2022, 16:38:48
This looks pretty sick - please consider Daily Clack as a proxy if for the OCE region :prayge:
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Sissy on Tue, 18 January 2022, 16:55:46
um yes.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: WhatsForLunch on Tue, 18 January 2022, 16:56:07
Honey wake up! Matrix droped a new IC
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: proelio on Tue, 18 January 2022, 17:03:58
nice
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: baka jiken on Tue, 18 January 2022, 17:06:12
2022 starting out strong  :-[
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: nullinasou on Tue, 18 January 2022, 17:07:23
based but unfortunately not f13 pilled

+1 for daily clack <3
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: finalarcadia on Tue, 18 January 2022, 17:31:30
In for 4
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Shoobs on Tue, 18 January 2022, 18:06:07
too lit
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Onnimar on Tue, 18 January 2022, 18:47:59
I'm in for one! I guess this is not compatible with the badges because I have a few haha?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Mecxs on Tue, 18 January 2022, 20:00:34
Finally.

I literally cannot believe it took the human race until the year 2022 to design a linen coloured keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: rpa4life on Tue, 18 January 2022, 20:39:25
Please consider ilumkb/hex keyboards/monokei as the SEA vendor please
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Remsky on Tue, 18 January 2022, 20:47:16
Will there be any more top styles than the current two?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: tommyhongg on Tue, 18 January 2022, 21:05:33
Color guide, please. Actual picture if possible, ty.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: cadrev on Tue, 18 January 2022, 21:18:38
Instabuy!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: elvenmonster on Tue, 18 January 2022, 22:15:39
Pls gib mint gren tx
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Keeblet_257 on Wed, 19 January 2022, 02:32:25
can we get a sound test?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Grandmasternoob on Wed, 19 January 2022, 03:21:24
can we get a sound test?

join the discord channel, there will be all the updates, soon there will be a proto review from one keeb content maker  ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Gvalch_ca on Wed, 19 January 2022, 05:13:50
Why did you remove the badge compatibility? Universal badges supported among the majority of your keyboards (8xv2.0add, 6xv2.0 falcon, 6xv2.0 vita, ME) was very nice idea.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: patzorz on Wed, 19 January 2022, 06:09:57
Please consider Daily Clack as a vendor for OCE/Australia
+1 to this comment <3
Also i cant wait for this ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Araset on Wed, 19 January 2022, 07:36:51
The board sure is nice, but man how much I crave a rerun of GMK Matrix
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Weebito on Wed, 19 January 2022, 08:20:32
Man, time to get another matrix board
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: 7empest on Wed, 19 January 2022, 09:10:55
Why did you remove the badge compatibility? Universal badges supported among the majority of your keyboards (8xv2.0add, 6xv2.0 falcon, 6xv2.0 vita, ME) was very nice idea.

I am wondering this myself. I have collected quite a few badges at this point - it would be such a shame to not be able to use them on the 3.0 and any other future Matrix keyboards.

I hope this can be incorporated into the 3.0 design in some way.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: akzh on Wed, 19 January 2022, 09:48:18
I too would like the badge to be implemented in the design somehow, hopefully the design isn't finalized.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Onnimar on Wed, 19 January 2022, 10:14:28
+1 for Badge compatibility.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: heyimpanda on Wed, 19 January 2022, 10:33:49
another +1 for badge compatibility
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Grandmasternoob on Wed, 19 January 2022, 11:17:36
color options that have been determined for ME
https://imgur.com/a/CsUseSb

should be the same
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Slayer77 on Wed, 19 January 2022, 12:17:17
Green ano if possible?

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Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: unusuaL_ on Wed, 19 January 2022, 12:37:52
matrix ano is stunning, looking forward to how this board looks irl.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Nurseh on Wed, 19 January 2022, 13:00:55
Look forward to hearing more!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: SRTChrisS1 on Wed, 19 January 2022, 19:53:59
Any chance that you will be offering an alu plate without any of the per key flex cuts?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 19 January 2022, 20:00:14
Any chance that you will be offering an alu plate without any of the per key flex cuts?

another alternative would be a plate file and we could go ham on it afterwards. Id go for solid brass myself.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: SaltyRoe on Thu, 20 January 2022, 04:09:19
Really excited to see the red and lilac ano renders
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: PotatoFury on Thu, 20 January 2022, 05:23:21
Let's go!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: amorino on Thu, 20 January 2022, 14:43:16
Please consider Rheset!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: katanakaji keys on Thu, 20 January 2022, 18:06:12
Awesome! Consider Rheset as Mexican (and hopefully soon Latin America)  vendor pls!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: petardo on Thu, 20 January 2022, 18:10:26
Yes! Please consider Rheset.mx as a vendor!

Plus if they happen to consider a Dark Green as a color I'll go all the way looking for this!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Nurseh on Thu, 20 January 2022, 19:04:36
Shame on you for getting me excited
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Aritega on Thu, 20 January 2022, 19:11:56
I'm honestly not a fan of the gasket tabs on the plate, would be nice to keep this as a top mount and maybe optional for no flex cuts on the aluminum plate. I hope the back gets a redesign for badge compatibility.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: alxz on Thu, 20 January 2022, 19:29:31
Rheset as vendor for MX would be sweet!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 21 January 2022, 09:32:52
Why not I deserve one.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: QWER|key on Fri, 21 January 2022, 10:15:14
This I would buy.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Puree on Fri, 21 January 2022, 10:50:44
 :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: TheDuckGod on Sun, 23 January 2022, 19:36:40
Oooh I like the look of this.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: carlfink on Mon, 24 January 2022, 02:45:36
wow cool kebort
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: cadrev on Tue, 25 January 2022, 21:28:16
Any chance we can get a no-flex-cut aluminum plate?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: ChrisJoy on Wed, 26 January 2022, 18:12:15
冲了
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: audax989 on Wed, 26 January 2022, 18:26:02
can it still have space for the custom badges for previous matrix boards?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: nullinasou on Wed, 26 January 2022, 19:40:16
bigger LED please.

amazing board once again matrix!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: pyomaung on Thu, 27 January 2022, 23:31:54
Keen on this one. Also a vote for australian vendor & badges. Wouldn't mind seeing a flex cut pcb also.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: The_judge_168 on Fri, 28 January 2022, 00:00:38
Looks great! Ready for the buy
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: notquant on Sun, 30 January 2022, 02:07:27
Excited for Mcflurry.....  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: marici22 on Sun, 30 January 2022, 03:15:24
It's only been a few weeks since I pulled the trigger on Mammoth75 and this one calls for me. My wallet drying up so quick :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: TypeBis on Sun, 30 January 2022, 21:57:34
top mount TKL count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: MJGameSix on Sun, 30 January 2022, 22:06:13
Larger screen please.   :D
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Nonnegaard on Tue, 01 February 2022, 04:05:07
[attachimg=1]
1.2 homage pls
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Adelscott on Tue, 01 February 2022, 04:54:28
+ 1 for the badge
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: vindfrisk on Tue, 01 February 2022, 09:35:22
very hyped for this board!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Tyson on Sat, 05 February 2022, 02:56:53
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1.2 homage pls

God this looks sexy
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Extra Fox on Sat, 05 February 2022, 17:41:03
After building the Matrix Me SE I'm totally hooked. I guess I might as well start saving up my currency units for another.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: jo h n on Wed, 09 February 2022, 17:34:30
Yes please!!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Briaireous on Thu, 10 February 2022, 00:13:00
Really interested in this. But I feel like the weight text is a bit too convoluted and text heavy, that may put me off an order.

The "powered by" and "since 2015" I feel really detract from the design. Nothing wrong with branding but just the board name and the company name would suffice.

Also I really hope that the weight doesn't have to be color coded with the board. I.e. if the case is blue I don't necessarily want a blue weight, at least the option for color coded or a non colored weight as a secondary option would be nice.

Wish your team all the best

Sent from my LYA-L09 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: IMZO on Tue, 15 February 2022, 00:37:33
would be great to have a bigger screen lol, i cant see my waifus on that small screen, however, this is an instabuy
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Belled on Tue, 15 February 2022, 12:08:22
I Love the heart badge on the top case!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: 7 on Wed, 16 February 2022, 03:34:31
So ready for this! Need a McFlurry.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: chiayu43 on Sun, 20 February 2022, 21:58:49
How is the design of the backside for different case colors? Can we buy back-up PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: Matrix-Lab on Tue, 22 February 2022, 07:20:31
updated
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Tue, 22 February 2022, 07:59:36
I saw that you added vendors, but unfortunately no EU vendors. Is this something that is still being worked on? Or is the list final?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: ZavaZ86 on Tue, 22 February 2022, 08:18:28
I saw that you added vendors, but unfortunately no EU vendors. Is this something that is still being worked on? Or is the list final?

yea so they forgot UK isn't part of EU which is why.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: elongatedmusk on Tue, 22 February 2022, 08:20:57
Any chance of purchasing this directly from Matrix?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: tngpq on Tue, 22 February 2022, 10:45:47
What is the color for the first render with GMK Matrix on it? Looks sexy and I want.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: mr_foggy on Tue, 22 February 2022, 16:32:56
2 questions:

- are we getting an EU vendor? prototypist is UK not EU.
- weight color: what do you mean with "Standard: Random color matching for the weight decided by Matrix Lab"? is it tied to the case color or it's going to different per each single kit?

Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: alwaysbless on Tue, 22 February 2022, 18:52:18
So everything about this board is random? We dont get to choose case color, alu weight color or the top case type?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: max.clacks on Tue, 22 February 2022, 19:01:21
So everything about this board is random? We dont get to choose case color, alu weight color or the top case type?

22th Feb update:
 
  3.0 offers two styles of the top case for the full kit--------'HEART' or 'EYE'!

  We will also offer extra case available to purchase, and there are 3 options available.


1. Case (black part)
  You can choose the following color for the case:
 
  Ano: Black/ Silver/ Light grey/ Red/ Light pink/ Light blue/ Lilac/ Blue black
 
  Coating: Black/ China red/Light green/ Tiffany/ Grey blue/ Starry night/ McFlurry/ Grey/ Deep grey/ Pink/ Yellow/ Linen/ Creamy white/ White flash/ Nebula

It seems like the only thing that is random is the color of the weight.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: thanatic on Wed, 23 February 2022, 01:28:07
Regarding the extra top ano random color

ano: Black/ Silver/ Light grey/ Red/ Light pink/ Light blue/ Lilac/ Blue black
Wine red/ Deep grey/ Dark green/ Coffee/ Cyan/ Orange red/ Random


Does random mean for ano mean the random color is chosen from what is listed already? Or is it a random color from the list and also a color that is not on the list like "mint green"?

Just want to get clarification.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: sirieous on Wed, 23 February 2022, 06:00:24
Really happy to see Dailyclack vendoring this for OCE!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: Adelscott on Wed, 23 February 2022, 06:17:01
No EU vendor? No badge?
Hello darkness my old friend

Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Matrix-Lab on Wed, 23 February 2022, 06:27:58
Really interested in this. But I feel like the weight text is a bit too convoluted and text heavy, that may put me off an order.

The "powered by" and "since 2015" I feel really detract from the design. Nothing wrong with branding but just the board name and the company name would suffice.

Also I really hope that the weight doesn't have to be color coded with the board. I.e. if the case is blue I don't necessarily want a blue weight, at least the option for color coded or a non colored weight as a secondary option would be nice.

Wish your team all the best

Sent from my LYA-L09 using Tapatalk

This is sort of our consistent design. So I cannot change it. Sry.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: Matrix-Lab on Wed, 23 February 2022, 06:34:15
2 questions:

- are we getting an EU vendor? prototypist is UK not EU.
- weight color: what do you mean with "Standard: Random color matching for the weight decided by Matrix Lab"? is it tied to the case color or it's going to different per each single kit?

The same case color may have multiple weight colors. Its the same way as what we did for 2.0 Additional. if we also provide color options for the weight, it will add too many SKUs which is unacceptable to us.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: Matrix-Lab on Wed, 23 February 2022, 06:39:55
Regarding the extra top ano random color

ano: Black/ Silver/ Light grey/ Red/ Light pink/ Light blue/ Lilac/ Blue black
Wine red/ Deep grey/ Dark green/ Coffee/ Cyan/ Orange red/ Random


Does random mean for ano mean the random color is chosen from what is listed already? Or is it a random color from the list and also a color that is not on the list like "mint green"?

Just want to get clarification.

The random color means the color may be in the list, and it may not be in the list too. Of course it could also be mint green.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: aznreaper on Wed, 23 February 2022, 10:11:43
Canadian vendor?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: Miyano on Wed, 23 February 2022, 11:34:15
Why no VIA support? The Satisfaction 75 supports VIA and has an oled…
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 23 February 2022, 16:48:50
The same case color may have multiple weight colors. Its the same way as what we did for 2.0 Additional. if we also provide color options for the weight, it will add too many SKUs which is unacceptable to us.

thanks for the clarification. sounds like I'm getting the clear coated brass extra.

EU vendor pls - or can we order directly from Matrix?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: hkhawk on Wed, 23 February 2022, 22:25:29
When will we know more about pricing? The planned GB is literally a few weeks away now.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: thanatic on Wed, 23 February 2022, 22:53:18
Regarding the extra top ano random color

ano: Black/ Silver/ Light grey/ Red/ Light pink/ Light blue/ Lilac/ Blue black
Wine red/ Deep grey/ Dark green/ Coffee/ Cyan/ Orange red/ Random


Does random mean for ano mean the random color is chosen from what is listed already? Or is it a random color from the list and also a color that is not on the list like "mint green"?

Just want to get clarification.

The random color means the color may be in the list, and it may not be in the list too. Of course it could also be mint green.

Thank you Albert!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: 4milk on Thu, 24 February 2022, 11:07:10
I like forced step caps for the HS PCB
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: Dyno on Thu, 24 February 2022, 12:27:49
Please consider one of the few EU vendors we got here
Also a at least target price would be appreciated since we are very close to the GB date
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: Grandmasternoob on Thu, 24 February 2022, 16:49:58
Please consider one of the few EU vendors we got here
Also a at least target price would be appreciated since we are very close to the GB date


price is expected until the end of february
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: Ella on Sun, 27 February 2022, 04:43:33
Please get an actual EU vendor instead of just having Prototypist
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Leon_TheKing on Sun, 27 February 2022, 08:19:43
would be great to have a bigger screen lol, i cant see my waifus on that small screen, however, this is an instabuy

my guess is they are keeping the screen similar size as the led ring found on 2.0add. If too big, it will look less tasteful.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: NightFox99 on Mon, 28 February 2022, 05:22:15
EU VENDORS ? UK IS NOT EU ANYMORE AS YOU KNOW AND BYUING FROM PROTOTYPIST IS NOT AN OPTION SINCE HELLISH TAXES WILL APPLY. PLEASE CONSIDER.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (22th Feb updated)
Post by: ___LUNK on Mon, 28 February 2022, 09:02:02
Sorry I couldn't quite hear you could you type that louder please.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Matrix-Lab on Wed, 02 March 2022, 10:50:42
updated
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: WhatsForLunch on Wed, 02 March 2022, 11:02:29
What is this like aftermarket prices lol
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: 7empest on Wed, 02 March 2022, 11:37:29
So I guess there will be no badge support then.... sadge
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: ZavaZ86 on Wed, 02 March 2022, 11:41:35
No EU vendor and now we have to pay increase priced because it have to go through the UK or other vendors. Such a bad mistake.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Adelscott on Wed, 02 March 2022, 12:03:47
No EU vendor I guess it's a win for my bank account. But I'll probably buy something else :/
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Rafa_n on Wed, 02 March 2022, 12:06:56
I'm not interested in this board and just came here to say that having 6 vendors and none of them in the EU is a big ****you to the European community
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: cadrev on Wed, 02 March 2022, 12:20:09
So the EYE and HEART colors, we won't be able to choose it? is that correct? Is it randomly selected by Matrix Lab??
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: CJackson19 on Wed, 02 March 2022, 12:54:03
Can the LCD screen display the current time and/or real time typing inputs (kind of like the Sat75)?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 02 March 2022, 16:14:53
So the EYE and HEART colors, we won't be able to choose it? is that correct? Is it randomly selected by Matrix Lab??

Those colors get chosen by Matrix; per discord it was to keep the number of choices down. Colors were going to be chosen to look good w the chosen top so not completely random. The discord has a section for badge trading so I figure these will get traded too…
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 02 March 2022, 16:19:11
I was ready to join this but I don't feel like rewarding a studio that couldn't even be arsed to find an EU vendor. Not keen on getting ravaged by import VAT too.
No disrespect but I'll wait for future Matrix projects hoping they will be handled with more attention to global customers.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Hdjekso on Wed, 02 March 2022, 16:37:25
What is this like aftermarket prices lol

This is how much high end TKLs cost. I'm not sure where you get your "aftermarket prices" from.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: marici22 on Wed, 02 March 2022, 22:37:21
looking gooooood
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: hkhawk on Wed, 02 March 2022, 23:29:36
What are the typing angle and front height?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: WhatsForLunch on Thu, 03 March 2022, 00:17:59
What is this like aftermarket prices lol

This is how much high end TKLs cost. I'm not sure where you get your "aftermarket prices" from.

Finall EU price is over 600€ + shipping and maybe even additional import taxes and all that for a unlimited GB. And im talking about the base price here. This is not a high end board of such value and im normally a person that understands such prices with custom boards. Cheaper for me to get a aftermarket 2.0, which isnt that different
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: juniper37559 on Thu, 03 March 2022, 01:46:12
So no directly purchase from matrix this time? Then I'll pass this time. The vendors prices in Asia are much higher than what I was expected.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: fuzzybaffy on Thu, 03 March 2022, 03:55:49
Holy Bejeezus, I'm so glad I googled "Matrix 2.0 keyboard" before buying a Matrix 2.0 off secondary, because it led me to this!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Hdjekso on Thu, 03 March 2022, 12:19:55
What is this like aftermarket prices lol

This is how much high end TKLs cost. I'm not sure where you get your "aftermarket prices" from.

Finall EU price is over 600€ + shipping and maybe even additional import taxes and all that for a unlimited GB. And im talking about the base price here. This is not a high end board of such value and im normally a person that understands such prices with custom boards. Cheaper for me to get a aftermarket 2.0, which isnt that different

Yes, matrix is kinda at fault for not having an EU vendor, but the majority of people aren't in the EU trying to buy a 3.0 from prototypist. The "intended price" (where you buy from your respective regional vendor) of ~$600 may be a tad pricey for some people, but is nevertheless in line with other high end TKLs, such as the cloudline TKL, the phoenix TKL, the hiney TKL one, the iron180, the Geon F2-84, and more.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Matrix-Lab on Thu, 03 March 2022, 22:55:10
What are the typing angle and front height?

7 degrees. For the front height, I'm not sure which one you are talking about, so ill show you both.

(https://i.imgur.com/nB4vNcA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bGF3DNc.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: mr_foggy on Fri, 04 March 2022, 05:53:05
Yes, matrix is kinda at fault for not having an EU vendor, but the majority of people aren't in the EU trying to buy a 3.0 from prototypist. The "intended price" (where you buy from your respective regional vendor) of ~$600 may be a tad pricey for some people, but is nevertheless in line with other high end TKLs, such as the cloudline TKL, the phoenix TKL, the hiney TKL one, the iron180, the Geon F2-84, and more.

you're mixing limited and unlimited boards, not the greatest comparison. unlimited retail cost is generally lower than limited.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: autocast on Fri, 04 March 2022, 08:40:28
Consider this image


(https://i.imgur.com/Ygx0HgJ.jpg)

How many individual pieces are present here? How many components make up the whole 3.0 board? Also, besides this image how many additional options and colors are available to you as the GB buyer?

Regardless of unlimited or limited GB. Consider the time required for machining, assembly, and design required for this specific board

Just from my past experience with Matrix Lab boards, this board will likely be an array of carefully considered pieces coming together to create a larger cohesive structure with an impeccable surface finish. There's usually many screws! and you will come to love your screwdriver... the customisation and personalisation with matrix boards is unparalleled. Matching accent pieces on Matrix boards to keycap tastes and other color preferences is something you don't get with other boards.

Can't compare the 3.0 to other boards with only 3 pieces of metal (top, bottom, weight) and a few color options
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Hdjekso on Fri, 04 March 2022, 14:08:04
Yes, matrix is kinda at fault for not having an EU vendor, but the majority of people aren't in the EU trying to buy a 3.0 from prototypist. The "intended price" (where you buy from your respective regional vendor) of ~$600 may be a tad pricey for some people, but is nevertheless in line with other high end TKLs, such as the cloudline TKL, the phoenix TKL, the hiney TKL one, the iron180, the Geon F2-84, and more.

you're mixing limited and unlimited boards, not the greatest comparison. unlimited retail cost is generally lower than limited.

There's a lot more to consider than simply unlimited vs limited, such as the number of parts, machining complexity, material costs, fluctuating shipping/ tax rates and more. The 3.0 is definitely on the pricier side of TKLs, but is nowhere near aftermarket pricing. It's also worth noting that the Phoenix TKL is also an unlimited GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: feelingcute on Fri, 04 March 2022, 15:21:20
Here's a crazy thought, if you think the board is too expensive... don't buy it. Total "Woah!" moment I know
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: aa212121 on Fri, 04 March 2022, 17:55:29
It is expensive.
It is bad that there is no EU vendor.

But irrespective of whether people buy it or not, if no one complains and all we do is cheer this on; nothing is going to change the next time.
EU will keep getting cucked.
New people in the hobby will have to pay more and new group buy runners will think that charging 600$ for an unlimited GB is the norm.
And then we all pay 150$ for plastic that ships after 2 years.

it is not about this particular GB, but the future too.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: 4milk on Sat, 05 March 2022, 13:14:15
Here's a crazy thought, if you think the board is too expensive... don't buy it. Total "Woah!" moment I know
People can't criticize things? If you dislike a forum comment... don't read it.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: fleeceman on Sat, 05 March 2022, 17:31:32
Is there any reason that the blank top case is not an option in the base kit? It seems wasteful to have to get an extra top case just to have the blank option. Please consider making the blank case a default option
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Whale_algorithm on Mon, 07 March 2022, 09:03:45
Just to confirm, we only need to purchase the screen daughterboard pack if we order an extra eye top, correct? Meaning, the base kit eye top already includes all the necessary components, correct?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: solracarevir on Mon, 07 March 2022, 13:17:03
Just to confirm, we only need to purchase the screen daughterboard pack if we order an extra eye top, correct? Meaning, the base kit eye top already includes all the necessary components, correct?

I was wondering the same. If I purchase the Full keyboard kit with the Eye Screen top will it come with the full components or I'll have to purchase the Screen daughter  board pack?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: CloudyEyes on Mon, 07 March 2022, 18:57:16
can we get a color guide before this goes live? some of the color names are a little confusing
Should be similar to this:

(some of them)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cKSa3Ft.jpg)



---------

Def in!

Please take my money for jade green :L
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Matrix-Lab on Mon, 07 March 2022, 23:30:55
Just to confirm, we only need to purchase the screen daughterboard pack if we order an extra eye top, correct? Meaning, the base kit eye top already includes all the necessary components, correct?

I was wondering the same. If I purchase the Full keyboard kit with the Eye Screen top will it come with the full components or I'll have to purchase the Screen daughter  board pack?

The full kit has included everything already. Daughter board pack is for those who want an extra set just in case something happened.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: NightFox99 on Wed, 09 March 2022, 03:01:04
Never explained why there's no EU vendor. Prototypist is not an option because VAT is one thing and import fees from UK is a whole other story. Plus DHL fees as an additional bonus. Keep it for yourself then, other vendors are respecting their EU customers more.

Btw unless several typing tests are available, no one schould consider buying it : too much TKLs can be found on the market for a lesser price and decently sounding. It should stand out, to justify the price. Just beacuse it's "Matrix" proves nothing itself. Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: maximize on Wed, 09 March 2022, 10:53:18
No “blank” top case but including as an optional extra purchase? Money grab + wasteful.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: selsik on Wed, 09 March 2022, 14:17:25
No EU vendor and no Via/Vial are the biggest deal breakers for me. It's a shame but I'll pass.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: elvenmonster on Wed, 09 March 2022, 15:51:21
No “blank” top case but including as an optional extra purchase? Money grab + wasteful.

How is it a moneygrab if its literally optional lmao
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: 1017BirckenThot on Wed, 09 March 2022, 16:09:07
How is it a moneygrab if its literally optional lmao

Well you are locked into buying a top case you might not really want if you only wanted the blank one. Not saying its a moneygrab as its likely just to reduce complexity when fulfilling orders, but it is potentially wasteful if you have no interest in the stock top case.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: elvenmonster on Wed, 09 March 2022, 16:14:16
How is it a moneygrab if its literally optional lmao

Well you are locked into buying a top case you might not really want if you only wanted the blank one. Not saying its a moneygrab as its likely just to reduce complexity when fulfilling orders, but it is potentially wasteful if you have no interest in the stock top case.

I think the screen/heart is one of the key design elements. The blank top option would be if anyone wants an extra top but a cheaper one (the other two are more expensive due to the electronic components they come with). It makes sense if someone just wants to get one of the extra colours, or wants to gamble for a unique one not in the list, but still doesnt want to pay for the screen for instance.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: finalarcadia on Wed, 09 March 2022, 16:36:53
Never explained why there's no EU vendor. Prototypist is not an option because VAT is one thing and import fees from UK is a whole other story. Plus DHL fees as an additional bonus. Keep it for yourself then, other vendors are respecting their EU customers more.

Btw unless several typing tests are available, no one schould consider buying it : too much TKLs can be found on the market for a lesser price and decently sounding. It should stand out, to justify the price. Just beacuse it's "Matrix" proves nothing itself. Hope I'm wrong.

No one should consider buying this since there's no sound test ? Lol what a blanket statement. How about you let people make that decision for themselves. I am personally buying it because of the design, and known matrix quality.

I understand you're salty about the EU situation, but at the end of the day they're your country/organization laws, and there's no way to accommodate everyone sometimes.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: selsik on Thu, 10 March 2022, 00:30:30
Never explained why there's no EU vendor. Prototypist is not an option because VAT is one thing and import fees from UK is a whole other story. Plus DHL fees as an additional bonus. Keep it for yourself then, other vendors are respecting their EU customers more.

Btw unless several typing tests are available, no one schould consider buying it : too much TKLs can be found on the market for a lesser price and decently sounding. It should stand out, to justify the price. Just beacuse it's "Matrix" proves nothing itself. Hope I'm wrong.

No one should consider buying this since there's no sound test ? Lol what a blanket statement. How about you let people make that decision for themselves. I am personally buying it because of the design, and known matrix quality.

I understand you're salty about the EU situation, but at the end of the day they're your country/organization laws, and there's no way to accommodate everyone sometimes.

Literally every other GB always has an EU vendor. There are a handful of major vendors in the continent handling GBs: MyKeyboard, CandyKeys, Keygem, EloquentClicks... hell, even SplitKB has some.

There is no possible justification for this. They deserve every bit of flak they get for not securing an EU vendor for this overpriced keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: tngpq on Thu, 10 March 2022, 01:30:26
Well there's always a possibility Matrix could not reach an agreement with any EU vendor. Who's fault is it then? You can't just blame everything on Matrix without knowing what exactly happened or if they even tried to talk with some vendors. I'd wait until any info on that comes out.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: santela on Thu, 10 March 2022, 01:41:19
Don't live in the EU and not interested in the board, but I just love it when they straight-up ignore potential customers asking about EU vendors. Could've just said they are negotiating instead of being rude.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: elongatedmusk on Thu, 10 March 2022, 02:32:30
About the EU vendor (potentially Oblo...at that time), from Matrix's Discord some time ago, in case you didn't join the Discord server or need context

(https://i.imgur.com/YPInKwP.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: halliu on Thu, 10 March 2022, 06:36:25
Keen to get one, just deciding between the full brass or the normal weight, and WKL vs WK..
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Tyson on Thu, 10 March 2022, 08:14:16
Joining for an upgraded WKL eye :D Now to decide what coating to go for! So many options!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Whale_algorithm on Thu, 10 March 2022, 10:06:10
In for ano black eye + white flash blank.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Thu, 10 March 2022, 11:29:58
How come there's no option for a full orange-red case? I have to spend extra $150 just to get a new top? Same idea with a blank top, why is that option not originally included?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: maximize on Thu, 10 March 2022, 11:44:58
No “blank” top case but including as an optional extra purchase? Money grab + wasteful.

How is it a moneygrab if its literally optional lmao

I can guarantee that I’m not the only person who would only consider using a blank top. There is at least one comment above requesting a blank top in the base kit, and likely more users that feel the same way but have not commented. You see, those people are essentially forced to buy an extra top case if they want this keyboard. Please let me know if you still do not understand, and I can attempt to explain it another way.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: ddamko on Thu, 10 March 2022, 12:19:33
Is there QMK support? If not then how will this board be programmed or will it not be able to?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: airs on Thu, 10 March 2022, 12:50:52
Not being able to choose a blank top is wasteful of materials and people's time. I'd rather not roll the dice on a color and then have to try to trade it for one I like. I can't think of a reason they did this other than $ grab.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: feelingcute on Thu, 10 March 2022, 14:31:37
Just pretend they didn't offer the option of a blank top :)
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: NightFox99 on Thu, 10 March 2022, 16:30:48
Never explained why there's no EU vendor. Prototypist is not an option because VAT is one thing and import fees from UK is a whole other story. Plus DHL fees as an additional bonus. Keep it for yourself then, other vendors are respecting their EU customers more.

Btw unless several typing tests are available, no one schould consider buying it : too much TKLs can be found on the market for a lesser price and decently sounding. It should stand out, to justify the price. Just beacuse it's "Matrix" proves nothing itself. Hope I'm wrong.

No one should consider buying this since there's no sound test ? Lol what a blanket statement. How about you let people make that decision for themselves. I am personally buying it because of the design, and known matrix quality.

I understand you're salty about the EU situation, but at the end of the day they're your country/organization laws, and there's no way to accommodate everyone sometimes.

Buying in 2022 without sound test ? This is a “blanket statement” indeed, to say less. And “make your own opinion” based precisely on what ? Country / organization laws ? What are you talking about ? Matrix just didn’t get along with EU vendors or didn’t want to. At least give un an explanation why. So yeah I’m reasonably salty about it. You would be too.
Finally, no conspiracy, but I find it’s strange that the buying window is so short and no sound test at all. Anyway, once again, hope it’s a great keyboard, best of luck.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: feelingcute on Thu, 10 March 2022, 20:27:22
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: JHelsing on Thu, 10 March 2022, 20:49:34
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.

People like the ones complaining here all had their minds made up, there's no point in talking to them. They don't understand that not every single GB is going to secure a vendor for every single region and would rather complain than acknowledge the fact that the people who are running the GB also have lives and can't be asked to add a vendor for everywhere. Well, the Safa people sure didn't.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: maximize on Thu, 10 March 2022, 20:58:24
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.

How many times do we have to have this god**** conversation on this platform? This is an IC, and they posted it to gather feedback. This is the feedback. Yeah, no ****, WE KNOW we aren't forced to buy anything. But we want to be customers and support the vendors, and thus the hobby. Critiquing sellers' methods has made group buys what they are today: fun to be a part of the design process (to some extent), (usually) full of a variety of purchase options, and reasonably safe and convenient to join. You would understand these things if you had been around here for more than *checks profile* six days.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: bigoldbox on Thu, 10 March 2022, 21:11:15
Never explained why there's no EU vendor. Prototypist is not an option because VAT is one thing and import fees from UK is a whole other story. Plus DHL fees as an additional bonus. Keep it for yourself then, other vendors are respecting their EU customers more.

Btw unless several typing tests are available, no one schould consider buying it : too much TKLs can be found on the market for a lesser price and decently sounding. It should stand out, to justify the price. Just beacuse it's "Matrix" proves nothing itself. Hope I'm wrong.

No one should consider buying this since there's no sound test ? Lol what a blanket statement. How about you let people make that decision for themselves. I am personally buying it because of the design, and known matrix quality.

I understand you're salty about the EU situation, but at the end of the day they're your country/organization laws, and there's no way to accommodate everyone sometimes.

Buying in 2022 without sound test ? This is a “blanket statement” indeed, to say less. And “make your own opinion” based precisely on what ? Country / organization laws ? What are you talking about ? Matrix just didn’t get along with EU vendors or didn’t want to. At least give un an explanation why. So yeah I’m reasonably salty about it. You would be too.
Finally, no conspiracy, but I find it’s strange that the buying window is so short and no sound test at all. Anyway, once again, hope it’s a great keyboard, best of luck.

Sound tests are infamously unreliable to begin with, I would never make my purchasing decisions on one. I trust matrix to deliver a quality keyboard based on their previous work. However having no EU vendor and no default blank top option is unacceptable at this price range. I don't see any reason to buy this if you have a 1.0 or 2.0. 
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: //gainsborough on Thu, 10 March 2022, 21:22:59
People need to chill out, for real. 

Up until the ME, matrix hadn't really pursued international buys at all.  We finally get a numbered series board as an international buy and people really out here acting like they've been slighted.  Look, I get it, paying import taxes would suck for sure, but you really need to step back and appreciate that matrix labs is doing an international buy at all.  Your other option, if you'd rather not participate in the GB but still want one, is to wait for aftermarket on mm and xianyu.  There's no guarantee it'll be any more affordable, though.

To the "waste of material" remark regarding extra tops: I think this is a win for everyone involved.  Sure, you may end up having a 3.0 top that's not being used (just like any extra PCBs you have lying around for other boards), but it allows for a cheaper way to significantly change the look of your board pretty easily.  It's being marketed as an accessory, not half a keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: heyimpanda on Thu, 10 March 2022, 22:57:20
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.


the difference there is that the US doesn't have import taxes on keyboards at all
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 11 March 2022, 00:15:30
People need to chill out, for real. 

Up until the ME, matrix hadn't really pursued international buys at all.  We finally get a numbered series board as an international buy and people really out here acting like they've been slighted.  Look, I get it, paying import taxes would suck for sure, but you really need to step back and appreciate that matrix labs is doing an international buy at all.  Your other option, if you'd rather not participate in the GB but still want one, is to wait for aftermarket on mm and xianyu.  There's no guarantee it'll be any more affordable, though.

To the "waste of material" remark regarding extra tops: I think this is a win for everyone involved.  Sure, you may end up having a 3.0 top that's not being used (just like any extra PCBs you have lying around for other boards), but it allows for a cheaper way to significantly change the look of your board pretty easily.  It's being marketed as an accessory, not half a keyboard.

Noah International Edition was the first broadly available Matrix board that was sold and marketed internationally.

It was kind of a ****ty board.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: NightFox99 on Fri, 11 March 2022, 05:17:42
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.

People like the ones complaining here all had their minds made up, there's no point in talking to them. They don't understand that not every single GB is going to secure a vendor for every single region and would rather complain than acknowledge the fact that the people who are running the GB also have lives and can't be asked to add a vendor for everywhere. Well, the Safa people sure didn't.

Apparently not only you don't understand but can't properly read too. EU is the only absent big region and no explanation why has been given by Matrix lab. Have you ever paid the european import taxes ? I'm pretty sick and tired too of people who are not concerned by the issue but find it useful to diminish and deny the whole existence of it. Like "hey, you can't buy it, your problem, just shut up". I mean what kind of mentality is that ? Constructive criticism is what makes hobby evolve and get better, so maybe it's time to grow up.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: elvenmonster on Fri, 11 March 2022, 09:01:19
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.

How many times do we have to have this god**** conversation on this platform? This is an IC, and they posted it to gather feedback. This is the feedback. Yeah, no ****, WE KNOW we aren't forced to buy anything. But we want to be customers and support the vendors, and thus the hobby. Critiquing sellers' methods has made group buys what they are today: fun to be a part of the design process (to some extent), (usually) full of a variety of purchase options, and reasonably safe and convenient to join. You would understand these things if you had been around here for more than *checks profile* six days.

Lmao you're naive if you think IC is for actually checking interest at this point. Its mainly for product advertisement for a lot of the posts, and one place to put all the information. I seriously doubt the GB runners would change anything about the sale depending on feedback on this particular forum.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: elvenmonster on Fri, 11 March 2022, 09:11:14
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.

People like the ones complaining here all had their minds made up, there's no point in talking to them. They don't understand that not every single GB is going to secure a vendor for every single region and would rather complain than acknowledge the fact that the people who are running the GB also have lives and can't be asked to add a vendor for everywhere. Well, the Safa people sure didn't.

Apparently not only you don't understand but can't properly read too. EU is the only absent big region and no explanation why has been given by Matrix lab. Have you ever paid the european import taxes ? I'm pretty sick and tired too of people who are not concerned by the issue but find it useful to diminish and deny the whole existence of it. Like "hey, you can't buy it, your problem, just shut up". I mean what kind of mentality is that ? Constructive criticism is what makes hobby evolve and get better, so maybe it's time to grow up.


Wouldnt you have paid taxes anyway had there been an EU vendor? And its mainly the DHL fees you save on? I may be wrong but that was my understanding, and that the fees are like 15 Euros or so. I can understand why people would be turned off by that since this is an expensive board anyways. However I don't feel like its anything throwing a tantrum over.

It honestly sounds very entitled of people to act as if an explanation was needed, as if they are already customers who have bought the board. Like calm down. There are so many other nations (like India for example) that don't even have a vendor. Sure, EU is a bigger market but I feel like its a few loud ones who are complaining anyway - many who probably had no intention of buying the board in the first place. Why then, should they be obligated to provide an explanation (which could be anything, probably as simple as them wanting to maintain some relationships theyve cultivated)
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Fri, 11 March 2022, 09:40:40
Just to give you an example with another product:
(https://i.imgur.com/zJJzRuS.png)

I think Matrix wanted to sell to all EU through Prototypist because they didn't know UK was not part of EU anymore (according to discord discussions).
Most probably next time we'll have an EU vendor, since Matrix is probably aware of EU demanding.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: elvenmonster on Fri, 11 March 2022, 11:28:05
Just to give you an example with another product:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zJJzRuS.png)


I think Matrix wanted to sell to all EU through Prototypist because they didn't know UK was not part of EU anymore (according to discord discussions).
Most probably next time we'll have an EU vendor, since Matrix is probably aware of EU demanding.

Thanks! This gives much more context to the whole thing.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: JHelsing on Fri, 11 March 2022, 16:57:21
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.

People like the ones complaining here all had their minds made up, there's no point in talking to them. They don't understand that not every single GB is going to secure a vendor for every single region and would rather complain than acknowledge the fact that the people who are running the GB also have lives and can't be asked to add a vendor for everywhere. Well, the Safa people sure didn't.

Apparently not only you don't understand but can't properly read too. EU is the only absent big region and no explanation why has been given by Matrix lab. Have you ever paid the european import taxes ? I'm pretty sick and tired too of people who are not concerned by the issue but find it useful to diminish and deny the whole existence of it. Like "hey, you can't buy it, your problem, just shut up". I mean what kind of mentality is that ? Constructive criticism is what makes hobby evolve and get better, so maybe it's time to grow up.

If we're namecalling and nitpicking then it's "can't properly read either." If we're talking import taxes you know that everyone pays them right? OR am I missing something and the only people who pay them are from the EU?
Plus, It's not as you put it  "hey, you can't buy it, your problem, just shut up" since you CAN buy it. You are crying about the lack of a VENDOR for a region and how the import tax might be more than other regions. I was pointing out how other boards also miss out on large regions like NA and EU so many boards run into the same issue.

I don't even know why I bother since all you ever do according to your post history is crying about how one set doesn't have French localized keys or is not French friendly while adapting a pompous ass tone while doing it:

On the GMK Fleuriste IC:
"Would've been interested with a french layout kit. No kit, no interest."

On this specific IC form:
"Never explained why there's no EU vendor. Prototypist is not an option because VAT is one thing and import fees from UK is a whole other story. Plus DHL fees as an additional bonus. Keep it for yourself then, other vendors are respecting their EU customers more."

You should know that someone who is running a GB doesn't have the time or energy to make sure they line up a vendor for every region right? Sometimes they miss out on a SEA vendor or a US-specific vendor and just go with a global one, which people understand since these IC's may take months if not years to get to the GB stage so they are somewhat pressured to get the GB going for people that support them: The people waiting wants their boards/caps/whatever else, and the artist wants to deliver as soon as possible due to their feelings of obligation towards these people.

You could just have just said "It is a shame that there's no EU-specific vendor on this project, I think I'll sit this one out because I don't want to be fleeced by import taxes" but went full aggro. How is that "constructive criticism"?

Don't like it don't buy it. If you want to offer constructive criticism get rid of your snide tone. Plus if you don't buy it I'll get mine sooner.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Whale_algorithm on Fri, 11 March 2022, 20:15:22
Guys, these are keyboards. Most workplaces provide them for free. And phones have them built in.  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: NightFox99 on Sat, 12 March 2022, 05:07:06
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.

People like the ones complaining here all had their minds made up, there's no point in talking to them. They don't understand that not every single GB is going to secure a vendor for every single region and would rather complain than acknowledge the fact that the people who are running the GB also have lives and can't be asked to add a vendor for everywhere. Well, the Safa people sure didn't.

Apparently not only you don't understand but can't properly read too. EU is the only absent big region and no explanation why has been given by Matrix lab. Have you ever paid the european import taxes ? I'm pretty sick and tired too of people who are not concerned by the issue but find it useful to diminish and deny the whole existence of it. Like "hey, you can't buy it, your problem, just shut up". I mean what kind of mentality is that ? Constructive criticism is what makes hobby evolve and get better, so maybe it's time to grow up.

If we're namecalling and nitpicking then it's "can't properly read either." If we're talking import taxes you know that everyone pays them right? OR am I missing something and the only people who pay them are from the EU?
Plus, It's not as you put it  "hey, you can't buy it, your problem, just shut up" since you CAN buy it. You are crying about the lack of a VENDOR for a region and how the import tax might be more than other regions. I was pointing out how other boards also miss out on large regions like NA and EU so many boards run into the same issue.

I don't even know why I bother since all you ever do according to your post history is crying about how one set doesn't have French localized keys or is not French friendly while adapting a pompous ass tone while doing it:

On the GMK Fleuriste IC:
"Would've been interested with a french layout kit. No kit, no interest."

On this specific IC form:
"Never explained why there's no EU vendor. Prototypist is not an option because VAT is one thing and import fees from UK is a whole other story. Plus DHL fees as an additional bonus. Keep it for yourself then, other vendors are respecting their EU customers more."

You should know that someone who is running a GB doesn't have the time or energy to make sure they line up a vendor for every region right? Sometimes they miss out on a SEA vendor or a US-specific vendor and just go with a global one, which people understand since these IC's may take months if not years to get to the GB stage so they are somewhat pressured to get the GB going for people that support them: The people waiting wants their boards/caps/whatever else, and the artist wants to deliver as soon as possible due to their feelings of obligation towards these people.

You could just have just said "It is a shame that there's no EU-specific vendor on this project, I think I'll sit this one out because I don't want to be fleeced by import taxes" but went full aggro. How is that "constructive criticism"?

Don't like it don't buy it. If you want to offer constructive criticism get rid of your snide tone. Plus if you don't buy it I'll get mine sooner.

And what constructive criticism did you offer except for pointing my non-relative to the topic posts and "stop crying" sentences ? Not a single one. First, for the taxes : they are objectively much higher if delivered from UK (Brexit, heard of it?). Of course, I can buy it elsewhere but this is precisely the poitn you miss : I want to buy it from EU vendor and pay a reasonable price. Secondly, for the vendors : they are plenty in EU and, once again, no reason why has been given. I have an impression you're working for them so blindly you defend their injustifiable position towards EU customers :D And for the record my "snide tone" as you said is the reaction for your impertinent comments, nothing more.

Finally, let me give you one solid example of how a professional vendor should react in such situation. I wanted to buy a HIBI & LNY knob for my Sat75 but no delivery option was available to France. So I asked HIBI via mail why and how can I get it. They contacted Mykeyboard.eu and two days later the knob was available for the pre-order. Two days later.

Yeah, let's just hope your getting your keyboard sooner, don't bother yourself further.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: JHelsing on Sat, 12 March 2022, 05:52:25
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.

People like the ones complaining here all had their minds made up, there's no point in talking to them. They don't understand that not every single GB is going to secure a vendor for every single region and would rather complain than acknowledge the fact that the people who are running the GB also have lives and can't be asked to add a vendor for everywhere. Well, the Safa people sure didn't.

Apparently not only you don't understand but can't properly read too. EU is the only absent big region and no explanation why has been given by Matrix lab. Have you ever paid the european import taxes ? I'm pretty sick and tired too of people who are not concerned by the issue but find it useful to diminish and deny the whole existence of it. Like "hey, you can't buy it, your problem, just shut up". I mean what kind of mentality is that ? Constructive criticism is what makes hobby evolve and get better, so maybe it's time to grow up.

If we're namecalling and nitpicking then it's "can't properly read either." If we're talking import taxes you know that everyone pays them right? OR am I missing something and the only people who pay them are from the EU?
Plus, It's not as you put it  "hey, you can't buy it, your problem, just shut up" since you CAN buy it. You are crying about the lack of a VENDOR for a region and how the import tax might be more than other regions. I was pointing out how other boards also miss out on large regions like NA and EU so many boards run into the same issue.

I don't even know why I bother since all you ever do according to your post history is crying about how one set doesn't have French localized keys or is not French friendly while adapting a pompous ass tone while doing it:

On the GMK Fleuriste IC:
"Would've been interested with a french layout kit. No kit, no interest."

On this specific IC form:
"Never explained why there's no EU vendor. Prototypist is not an option because VAT is one thing and import fees from UK is a whole other story. Plus DHL fees as an additional bonus. Keep it for yourself then, other vendors are respecting their EU customers more."

You should know that someone who is running a GB doesn't have the time or energy to make sure they line up a vendor for every region right? Sometimes they miss out on a SEA vendor or a US-specific vendor and just go with a global one, which people understand since these IC's may take months if not years to get to the GB stage so they are somewhat pressured to get the GB going for people that support them: The people waiting wants their boards/caps/whatever else, and the artist wants to deliver as soon as possible due to their feelings of obligation towards these people.

You could just have just said "It is a shame that there's no EU-specific vendor on this project, I think I'll sit this one out because I don't want to be fleeced by import taxes" but went full aggro. How is that "constructive criticism"?

Don't like it don't buy it. If you want to offer constructive criticism get rid of your snide tone. Plus if you don't buy it I'll get mine sooner.

And what constructive criticism did you offer except for pointing my non-relative to the topic posts and "stop crying" sentences ? Not a single one. First, for the taxes : they are objectively much higher if delivered from UK (Brexit, heard of it?). Of course, I can buy it elsewhere but this is precisely the poitn you miss : I want to buy it from EU vendor and pay a reasonable price. Secondly, for the vendors : they are plenty in EU and, once again, no reason why has been given. I have an impression you're working for them so blindly you defend their injustifiable position towards EU customers :D And for the record my "snide tone" as you said is the reaction for your impertinent comments, nothing more.

Finally, let me give you one solid example of how a professional vendor should react in such situation. I wanted to buy a HIBI & LNY knob for my Sat75 but no delivery option was available to France. So I asked HIBI via mail why and how can I get it. They contacted Mykeyboard.eu and two days later the knob was available for the pre-order. Two days later.

Yeah, let's just hope your getting your keyboard sooner, don't bother yourself further.

"And what constructive criticism did you offer except for pointing my non-relative to the topic posts and "stop crying" sentences"
None, since I didn't have any. My original post was not directed at you but okay.

"for the taxes : they are objectively much higher if delivered from UK"
Of course, since UK and EU are in different regions, and? Everyone has to deal with taxes. I have to pay a bunch in import taxes every time I buy stuff from other regions and I don't complain about every little thing lmao. Sure taxes are high but that doesn't allow you to come and yell at me for literally nothing. Sorry, you have to deal with taxes man, you can deal with aftermarket prices instead I guess.

"I want to buy it from EU vendor and pay a reasonable price"
Okay, great! Next time when you want to point this out maybe don't quote someone else and call them illiterate.

"for the vendors: they are plenty in EU and, once again, no reason why has been given"
Did you DM them? Do they have to come out in a Japanese-style press conference and bow there heads to say sorry, we couldn't get to a EU vendor in time for GB? Why can't you give them the benefit of the doubt?

" I have an impression you're working for them so blindly you defend their injustifiable position towards EU customers"
I don't work for them. I'm just a reasonable guy. Their position is by no means unjustifiable just because you are in a unfortunate position. If I was in your shoes I'd just say oh well and go, or just be reasonable, like I wrote above:
"It is a shame that there's no EU-specific vendor on this project, I think I'll sit this one out because I don't want to be fleeced by import taxes"

"one solid example of how a professional vendor should react in such situation. "
Yep, they did great. Use that example for every new board by independent board maker too, see if everyone else agrees with you.
MatrixLab is from China, and from what I gather they've only done a few GB's. You are comparing them to CannonKeys, which is a US vendor that makes their own keycaps, who would have connection to vendors everywhere.

"Yeah, let's just hope your getting your keyboard sooner"
Thanks, hopefully none of your GB's gets delayed. They say they'll be shipping the 8XV sometime around Q4 so yeah, pretty stoked.

"don't bother yourself further"
sorry
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Matrix-Lab on Sat, 12 March 2022, 08:44:56
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.

People like the ones complaining here all had their minds made up, there's no point in talking to them. They don't understand that not every single GB is going to secure a vendor for every single region and would rather complain than acknowledge the fact that the people who are running the GB also have lives and can't be asked to add a vendor for everywhere. Well, the Safa people sure didn't.

Apparently not only you don't understand but can't properly read too. EU is the only absent big region and no explanation why has been given by Matrix lab. Have you ever paid the european import taxes ? I'm pretty sick and tired too of people who are not concerned by the issue but find it useful to diminish and deny the whole existence of it. Like "hey, you can't buy it, your problem, just shut up". I mean what kind of mentality is that ? Constructive criticism is what makes hobby evolve and get better, so maybe it's time to grow up.

Well, I didn't check the GH thread since the GB started. I have explained many times in my server. The reason is i was asking Prototypist to be the vendor of the whole EU at first, and I didn't know the complicated situation between you guys by that time.

Even if I found out later, out of responsibility for the decisions I made, and also for the prototypist. Even so I might lose a lot of EU orders, i decided not to add another EU local vendor for this GB.

I won't make similar mistakes again in the future, I hope this will not disappoint the love of eu fans for us.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Keeblet_257 on Sat, 12 March 2022, 12:39:47
no EU vendor is a real bummer. Would have liked to join but I havent had good experience with UK vendors.
I'll skip this one and hope that the future round of this will have a EU vendor, if there is gonna be a future round.

GLWGB
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: NightFox99 on Sat, 12 March 2022, 17:12:39
For the recent Safa 588 release US customers were only offered an EU vendor (mykeyboard.eu) and you didn't see anyone crapping their pants over it like this. If it's a big enough deal then don't buy the board. People are acting like matrixlab has a gun to their head and is forcing them to purchase a board along with 20 extras. Grow up, it's a luxury keyboard and the definition of a nonessential purchase.

People like the ones complaining here all had their minds made up, there's no point in talking to them. They don't understand that not every single GB is going to secure a vendor for every single region and would rather complain than acknowledge the fact that the people who are running the GB also have lives and can't be asked to add a vendor for everywhere. Well, the Safa people sure didn't.

Apparently not only you don't understand but can't properly read too. EU is the only absent big region and no explanation why has been given by Matrix lab. Have you ever paid the european import taxes ? I'm pretty sick and tired too of people who are not concerned by the issue but find it useful to diminish and deny the whole existence of it. Like "hey, you can't buy it, your problem, just shut up". I mean what kind of mentality is that ? Constructive criticism is what makes hobby evolve and get better, so maybe it's time to grow up.

If we're namecalling and nitpicking then it's "can't properly read either." If we're talking import taxes you know that everyone pays them right? OR am I missing something and the only people who pay them are from the EU?
Plus, It's not as you put it  "hey, you can't buy it, your problem, just shut up" since you CAN buy it. You are crying about the lack of a VENDOR for a region and how the import tax might be more than other regions. I was pointing out how other boards also miss out on large regions like NA and EU so many boards run into the same issue.

I don't even know why I bother since all you ever do according to your post history is crying about how one set doesn't have French localized keys or is not French friendly while adapting a pompous ass tone while doing it:

On the GMK Fleuriste IC:
"Would've been interested with a french layout kit. No kit, no interest."

On this specific IC form:
"Never explained why there's no EU vendor. Prototypist is not an option because VAT is one thing and import fees from UK is a whole other story. Plus DHL fees as an additional bonus. Keep it for yourself then, other vendors are respecting their EU customers more."

You should know that someone who is running a GB doesn't have the time or energy to make sure they line up a vendor for every region right? Sometimes they miss out on a SEA vendor or a US-specific vendor and just go with a global one, which people understand since these IC's may take months if not years to get to the GB stage so they are somewhat pressured to get the GB going for people that support them: The people waiting wants their boards/caps/whatever else, and the artist wants to deliver as soon as possible due to their feelings of obligation towards these people.

You could just have just said "It is a shame that there's no EU-specific vendor on this project, I think I'll sit this one out because I don't want to be fleeced by import taxes" but went full aggro. How is that "constructive criticism"?

Don't like it don't buy it. If you want to offer constructive criticism get rid of your snide tone. Plus if you don't buy it I'll get mine sooner.

And what constructive criticism did you offer except for pointing my non-relative to the topic posts and "stop crying" sentences ? Not a single one. First, for the taxes : they are objectively much higher if delivered from UK (Brexit, heard of it?). Of course, I can buy it elsewhere but this is precisely the poitn you miss : I want to buy it from EU vendor and pay a reasonable price. Secondly, for the vendors : they are plenty in EU and, once again, no reason why has been given. I have an impression you're working for them so blindly you defend their injustifiable position towards EU customers :D And for the record my "snide tone" as you said is the reaction for your impertinent comments, nothing more.

Finally, let me give you one solid example of how a professional vendor should react in such situation. I wanted to buy a HIBI & LNY knob for my Sat75 but no delivery option was available to France. So I asked HIBI via mail why and how can I get it. They contacted Mykeyboard.eu and two days later the knob was available for the pre-order. Two days later.

Yeah, let's just hope your getting your keyboard sooner, don't bother yourself further.

"And what constructive criticism did you offer except for pointing my non-relative to the topic posts and "stop crying" sentences"
None, since I didn't have any. My original post was not directed at you but okay.

"for the taxes : they are objectively much higher if delivered from UK"
Of course, since UK and EU are in different regions, and? Everyone has to deal with taxes. I have to pay a bunch in import taxes every time I buy stuff from other regions and I don't complain about every little thing lmao. Sure taxes are high but that doesn't allow you to come and yell at me for literally nothing. Sorry, you have to deal with taxes man, you can deal with aftermarket prices instead I guess.

"I want to buy it from EU vendor and pay a reasonable price"
Okay, great! Next time when you want to point this out maybe don't quote someone else and call them illiterate.

"for the vendors: they are plenty in EU and, once again, no reason why has been given"
Did you DM them? Do they have to come out in a Japanese-style press conference and bow there heads to say sorry, we couldn't get to a EU vendor in time for GB? Why can't you give them the benefit of the doubt?

" I have an impression you're working for them so blindly you defend their injustifiable position towards EU customers"
I don't work for them. I'm just a reasonable guy. Their position is by no means unjustifiable just because you are in a unfortunate position. If I was in your shoes I'd just say oh well and go, or just be reasonable, like I wrote above:
"It is a shame that there's no EU-specific vendor on this project, I think I'll sit this one out because I don't want to be fleeced by import taxes"

"one solid example of how a professional vendor should react in such situation. "
Yep, they did great. Use that example for every new board by independent board maker too, see if everyone else agrees with you.
MatrixLab is from China, and from what I gather they've only done a few GB's. You are comparing them to CannonKeys, which is a US vendor that makes their own keycaps, who would have connection to vendors everywhere.

"Yeah, let's just hope your getting your keyboard sooner"
Thanks, hopefully none of your GB's gets delayed. They say they'll be shipping the 8XV sometime around Q4 so yeah, pretty stoked.

"don't bother yourself further"
sorry

So much words and STILL not a single solid argument :D Just unverifiable assumptions about vendors origin, lesson giving on my communication manner, mixing up things that have no relation (for example,buying from GB and a random person in other region is not the same thing obviously, since GB vendor CAN choose the reseller) and the main point that you still didn’t get : make the sale better the next time for the EU folks. The pinacle of your hypocrisy is that you affirm you know about taxes we have to pay if we buy from Prototypist but still think EU folks have no right to complain about that. Plenty of comments here attest of the deception coming from absence of EU vendor, it’s okay, just try to be at our place, it’s not that hard.

You’re seeking so hard to be right, I’m starting to feel sorry for you. Dissecting my posts must provide some strange pleasure to you (please go on be my guest) :D Yet, unfortunately you’re wrong, all these efforts for nothing. See Matrix lab post, who I thank for finally stand out and give a response. Next time, we’ll have more chances to get an EU vendor. You see, maybe reasonable complaining works, reasonable guy.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: TomatoMan on Sat, 12 March 2022, 19:06:35
Would have loved to get this! Unless i find some1 to use as a proxy and undervalue it i'm not gonna pay 30% more, over the already high price, to import it from UK.
It's understandable that you had no clue about the difference between UK and EU what i don't get is why didn't you get in touch with an eu vendor and set it up for the sale. Better late than never you know!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: JHelsing on Sat, 12 March 2022, 21:36:39
So much words and STILL not a single solid argument :D Just unverifiable assumptions about vendors origin, lesson giving on my communication manner, mixing up things that have no relation (for example,buying from GB and a random person in other region is not the same thing obviously, since GB vendor CAN choose the reseller) and the main point that you still didn’t get : make the sale better the next time for the EU folks. The pinacle of your hypocrisy is that you affirm you know about taxes we have to pay if we buy from Prototypist but still think EU folks have no right to complain about that. Plenty of comments here attest of the deception coming from absence of EU vendor, it’s okay, just try to be at our place, it’s not that hard.

You’re seeking so hard to be right, I’m starting to feel sorry for you. Dissecting my posts must provide some strange pleasure to you (please go on be my guest) :D Yet, unfortunately you’re wrong, all these efforts for nothing. See Matrix lab post, who I thank for finally stand out and give a response. Next time, we’ll have more chances to get an EU vendor. You see, maybe reasonable complaining works, reasonable guy.

Welp, It is what it is.
We both have our minds made upon and there's literally no point to this now that Matrix showed up, I concede that I was quite rude in my responses and I apologize for that.

anyways hopefully the board comes soon, and hopefully next time there's nothing to pointlessly yell over.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 14 March 2022, 23:34:58
Lol, Matrix officially goes international beyond Asia/China for once and everyone’s mad.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 15 March 2022, 08:59:22
Ordered on a starry night. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: WXYaa on Wed, 16 March 2022, 01:48:52
The better question is why isn't Blue Star available? :D

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, this is an IC thread afterall! Perhaps direct our anger towards Putin the MOFO instead! >:(

And here is my thoughts:

This board is certainly not cheap. I am in NY and it will cost over $650 after NYC Sales Tax and shipping. I am OK with the price, albeit higher than ordering directly from Matrix like the ME's GB. I understand that the vendors need to eat, and they will likely need to pay import tariff even without VAT. So that's that.

Regarding the available color choices for a full board vs. Top case only, I think it's to minimize the amount of combination of color mating/matching accent pieces of the backweight and the bottom case. This is independent from the top case only option, as we would be using a different bottom/backweight combination. Note that the top case option is made possible because of the new seamless top case design. I think it's a welcome option to own an entirely different look for a mere $150/$200, vs $580. I don't think it's fair to call the top case option a 'money grab'. I would rather have this option than not, even when my preferred options are not available in the full board selection.

However, I do wish that the more 'special' colors are available for the full board option, and make the basic colors available in the top case option if necessary. I wouldn't be paying $650 for a plain old black ano TKL (as much as I LOVE black ano), and absolutely not a black ano 'blank' one. That's probably the rationale behind Matrix decision not to include a 'blank' TKL full board option. There are so many 'blank' TKL at half the price out there... But I am sure there would be complaints either way. More importantly, it doesn't make financial sense as the basic colors are usually best sellers. lol

So my choice is going to be Starry Night and an extra Orange Red top (and a White Flash, and a Blue Black, and a...)! By the way, the special colors are much nicer in person. Photos just don't do them justice. I only wish Blue Star is available. Again, why isn't it available?!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Whale_algorithm on Tue, 05 April 2022, 18:35:05
Are you going to release any statistics on number of boards sold?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: IMZO on Mon, 23 May 2022, 03:14:15
where can we get updates about the gb
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: jo h n on Mon, 23 May 2022, 06:27:37
where can we get updates about the gb

I don't think there is any updates for now but I'm sure they will be posted here aswell as the Matrix Labs Discord

Shipping is not due to vendors until Q4, maybe they have more info on their sites?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Whale_algorithm on Tue, 24 May 2022, 20:41:56
If you are hosting your GB on GH, you have to post your updates on GH.

GB rules: geekhack.org is a community of keyboard enthusiasts and not simply an advertising platform for keyboard-related sales. Thus we require that any group buy organizers who post their group buy threads in this section also provide updates in the thread they have started until the conclusion of the group buy, even if updates are also posted somewhere else. It is requested to post an update at least monthly, even if there is no progress in manufacturing.

You could argue that this was technically never posted in the GB forum so the rules don't apply, but I don't think any mods would agree that the argument holds up to the intent of the rule.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: peterparker111 on Thu, 18 August 2022, 06:11:59
So ready for a intl. Matrix GB! Also my b-day is in March so that's the perfect excuse to treat myself to ones of these LOL!
LOL SAME!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0
Post by: Necrolegion on Sun, 21 August 2022, 22:47:17
So ready for a intl. Matrix GB! Also my b-day is in March so that's the perfect excuse to treat myself to ones of these LOL!
LOL SAME!!!!

You do realize that the international GB already happened, right???
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Whale_algorithm on Sat, 08 October 2022, 13:56:27
Do we have any status updates?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: optimuspine on Sat, 08 October 2022, 21:17:06
Do we have any status updates?

Thanks for reminding me I ordered this. Yeah, any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: andanya on Sun, 09 October 2022, 07:02:05
Do we have any status updates?

Based on chatter in discord, I think they’re done packing international orders. Swagkeys probably will get them first.

This is also my assumption because they said they're shipping out their second GB (Meta) this mid October. So I'm assuming they're done with 8XV 3.0.

And they're also preparing their next GB, Corsa.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: mr_foggy on Thu, 13 October 2022, 04:32:39
EU people should seriously look into the aftermarket instead of extra sales, might actually end up being less expensive lol

I hope they don't pull the same BS for Corsa at least.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: NightFox99 on Thu, 19 January 2023, 15:01:46
With some time passed now, it's for sure that 3.0 is not better or even on the same level as 2.0/add. And it's even worse if they confirm that Magic3 "rabbit" edition design... :D

But yeah at least Oblotzky was there for Corsa
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: elvenmonster on Thu, 19 January 2023, 23:05:11
With some time passed now, it's for sure that 3.0 is not better or even on the same level as 2.0/add.

disagree to agree. It's for sure that my grapes are sweeter than yours.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: NightFox99 on Fri, 20 January 2023, 03:26:28
With some time passed now, it's for sure that 3.0 is not better or even on the same level as 2.0/add.

disagree to agree. It's for sure that my grapes are sweeter than yours.

That's nothing but my opinion ofc. Go ahead if you like it, still a matrix keeb tho, they don't disappoint often. Also no gatekeeping
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: Theman2k on Fri, 20 January 2023, 07:25:29
With some time passed now, it's for sure that 3.0 is not better or even on the same level as 2.0/add. And it's even worse if they confirm that Magic3 "rabbit" edition design... :D

But yeah at least Oblotzky was there for Corsa

What's wrong with it compared to 2.0?
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: NightFox99 on Fri, 20 January 2023, 07:42:28
With some time passed now, it's for sure that 3.0 is not better or even on the same level as 2.0/add. And it's even worse if they confirm that Magic3 "rabbit" edition design... :D

But yeah at least Oblotzky was there for Corsa

What's wrong with it compared to 2.0?

Nothing is really wrong but I prefer USB port location on 2.0, also weight looks cheap compared it. Most importantly, soundwise 2.0 got my preference. Still it's better than most of boards, so Matrix is still on top. Yet, matter of personal preference, this CNY rabbit edition kinda surprised me in a negative way
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: andanya on Fri, 20 January 2023, 07:47:57
What is wrong with the rabbit edition? Kinda over the top in term of design in a good way to me. Very steep price based on discord chatter though.
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: NightFox99 on Fri, 20 January 2023, 09:18:21
What is wrong with the rabbit edition? Kinda over the top in term of design in a good way to me. Very steep price based on discord chatter though.

I just personally don't like the design of the rabbit edition. Grant me that right  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: hkhawk on Fri, 20 January 2023, 10:57:51
With some time passed now, it's for sure that 3.0 is not better or even on the same level as 2.0/add. And it's even worse if they confirm that Magic3 "rabbit" edition design... :D

But yeah at least Oblotzky was there for Corsa

What's wrong with it compared to 2.0?

Nothing is really wrong but I prefer USB port location on 2.0, also weight looks cheap compared it. Most importantly, soundwise 2.0 got my preference. Still it's better than most of boards, so Matrix is still on top. Yet, matter of personal preference, this CNY rabbit edition kinda surprised me in a negative way

And 1.2 is better than 2.0 😝
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: NightFox99 on Sat, 21 January 2023, 04:00:20
With some time passed now, it's for sure that 3.0 is not better or even on the same level as 2.0/add. And it's even worse if they confirm that Magic3 "rabbit" edition design... :D

But yeah at least Oblotzky was there for Corsa

What's wrong with it compared to 2.0?

Nothing is really wrong but I prefer USB port location on 2.0, also weight looks cheap compared it. Most importantly, soundwise 2.0 got my preference. Still it's better than most of boards, so Matrix is still on top. Yet, matter of personal preference, this CNY rabbit edition kinda surprised me in a negative way

And 1.2 is better than 2.0 😝

Oh boi, I would like so much to have it ...
Title: Re: [IC] Matrix lab 8XV 3.0 (GB starts 10th March)
Post by: hkhawk on Sat, 21 January 2023, 09:10:25
With some time passed now, it's for sure that 3.0 is not better or even on the same level as 2.0/add. And it's even worse if they confirm that Magic3 "rabbit" edition design... :D

But yeah at least Oblotzky was there for Corsa

What's wrong with it compared to 2.0?

Nothing is really wrong but I prefer USB port location on 2.0, also weight looks cheap compared it. Most importantly, soundwise 2.0 got my preference. Still it's better than most of boards, so Matrix is still on top. Yet, matter of personal preference, this CNY rabbit edition kinda surprised me in a negative way

And 1.2 is better than 2.0 😝

Oh boi, I would like so much to have it ...

Yeah, same here