Post by: Crapiface on Wed, 08 March 2017, 11:54:02
Please note that those kits will undergo major changes in the future.
I'd like to gather opinions on what should be supported since this was a community created keyset.
Here is the (NEW!) Massdrop Poll :
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Calm-Depths-SA-and-DSA
Ninja edit : Here's the confirmation of the original leader of the GB for the non-sayers : http://i.imgur.com/8oSoA9f.png
And Melissa's approval : http://i.imgur.com/OEhmI32.png
Update 7-13:
Updated extensions, mods and added macros.
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Update 7-07:
More renders ! A big thanks again to Oblotzky!
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Update 6-27:
We have some sweet renders ! Thanks Oblotzky ! :D
He's still in the process of doing the renders with the promise of a few more kits to come :
- Ergodox (maybe)
- 40%
- Ortho/Planck
- Arrows (both base colors)
- Dvorak & Colemak
- NorDeUK (or UK and NorDe split)
- GTA spacebars
- Spacekeys (both base colors)
- Community kit
- Accent kit (maybe)
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Update 5-25:
So I contacted Melissa at SP and well I have bad news and/or good news depending on your point of view. She told me they're booked until May next year. So, assuming the 6 months + of production and then shipping we're looking at end of 2018 which I don't think will fly with anybody (I wouldn't).
So now we're faced with a choice : MaxKey SA or DSA SP if they can do it before May 2018. I also added 1.75u shift and the missing ISO key !
Second update : Melissa told me DSA was booked until September this year which I find could be reasonable. It would give me the time to finish designing the kits and in a perfect world we could have a GB up on Massdrop in June (I hope so!). I know DSA wasn't the original plan but I feel like there is enough demand for the kit in DSA and a SA kit could really be done when SP's queue clears up/increase their production/etc. I will put up a poll for this tomorrow and talk with doom2 and Obloztky of these changes. Nothing is set in stone and nothing forbids a R3 SA Calm Depths!
Update 5-24:
I know it's been a long time since I did an update but I'm finally free !
Also, since I'm not as active on Geekhack as I would like, user doom2 offered help with the unofficial updates of the set and will be able to answer the majority of your questions.
You can also always contact me on reddit under /u/Crapiface.
I decided to change the way kits were offered and was wondering what sculpting we could use so I have created a poll to cumulate results.
Here's the link : http://www.strawpoll.me/13034716
If you choose the "Other" option please comment.
Now... the big changes.
Instead of doing multiple small kits I think it would be easier to offer a basic kit, pictured here :
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and then work from there with the community. Since I want to do this Group Buy as fast as possible, I'll will NOT design novelties. This will have to wait for a 3rd (counting the original) round.
Also, I currently am pondering the possibility to do a 40% adapter kit and an international kit.
Concerning the international kit I will take inspiration from other sets as I never had an international kit myself. I will also take suggestions.
The current official kits are the Ergodox (it's the same as the original) and the basic kit.
Update 4-18:
Sorry I have been away for quite a time since I'm not active on Geekhack and I had major things come up in the meantime.
I am still waiting on an update from Massdrop and I believe I will not hear from them for a while because of SP's backlog. I am currently looking at other options and I am leaning towards a DSA set because I feel the keyset NEEDS to be re-run and because of SP's backlog and lack of competitors I find that maybe I'll need to find another company to do it. I also feel like this keyset needs the big centered legends.
I'll update the IC as I go but if you want more details you can contact me easily on reddit : /u/Crapiface.
Thanks for all the support!
Post by: Crapiface on Wed, 08 March 2017, 11:55:05
Post by: nastrovje on Wed, 08 March 2017, 11:59:40
But when would it run? 2018?
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 08 March 2017, 11:59:57
Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 08 March 2017, 12:01:10
Post by: Crapiface on Wed, 08 March 2017, 12:37:50
IN-terested!
But when would it run? 2018?
Sadly. SP queue is booked for a year :/ I don't know if the buy is gonna happen before and then we get the goodies in 2018. I still need to get Massdrop's OK.
Post by: Crapiface on Wed, 08 March 2017, 12:39:36
Nice, stoked to see some novelties!
Any plans to include some novelties? I know the set is more colorway inspired than theme but would be nice.
I'd really like to include some novelties but I'm kinda short on ideas on this front. I was thinking of maybe doing something related to scuba diving and maybe a little something relating to C4lm.
Post by: mr scooty on Wed, 08 March 2017, 12:47:27
Nice, stoked to see some novelties!Any plans to include some novelties? I know the set is more colorway inspired than theme but would be nice.
I'd really like to include some novelties but I'm kinda short on ideas on this front. I was thinking of maybe doing something related to scuba diving and maybe a little something relating to C4lm.
Just thinking the name Calm Depths, I'd be happy with stuff that sticks with the theme of things in the deep sea. Maybe something like a submarine, shipwreck?, disconnected anchor, angler fish, giant squid, horse shoe crab, deep sea suit like bioshock might be sweet too.
Post by: Crapiface on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:02:19
Just thinking the name Calm Depths, I'd be happy with stuff that sticks with the theme of things in the deep sea. Maybe something like a submarine, shipwreck?, disconnected anchor, angler fish, giant squid, horse shoe crab, deep sea suit like bioshock might be sweet too.
Yeah that'd be a great idea ! :D
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:10:51
Post by: Crapiface on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:24:18
Basically, wait till the novelties for GMK Nautilus are announced and take inspiration from there :P
Pretty sure the creators wouldn't be happy with me if I did that :P
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:27:04
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:33:18
Basically, wait till the novelties for GMK Nautilus are announced and take inspiration from there :P
Pretty sure the creators wouldn't be happy with me if I did that :P
Take inspiration, don't steal!
Post by: mr scooty on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:33:31
Just thinking the name Calm Depths, I'd be happy with stuff that sticks with the theme of things in the deep sea. Maybe something like a submarine, shipwreck?, disconnected anchor, angler fish, giant squid, horse shoe crab, deep sea suit like bioshock might be sweet too.
Yeah that'd be a great idea ! :D
Well if someone wants to take a crack at designing some that'd be sweet. Unfortunately I'm not too artsy..
Post by: Crapiface on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:35:43
Please make it the same profile as the original! Some new layout compatibility would be really nice to have.
I intend to do just that actually. :)
Post by: gaiden on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:46:56
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Post by: clappingcactus on Thu, 09 March 2017, 00:12:53
Post by: superpiya on Thu, 09 March 2017, 06:16:35
Post by: The_Boom_Boy on Thu, 09 March 2017, 07:40:30
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 09 March 2017, 08:33:40
Post by: zenless on Thu, 09 March 2017, 08:52:53
Post by: dubious on Thu, 09 March 2017, 13:01:20
Post by: mintyfruits on Thu, 09 March 2017, 13:11:26
Post by: doom2 on Thu, 09 March 2017, 15:59:46
Post by: limitz on Thu, 09 March 2017, 20:47:31
Please make it the same profile as the original! Some new layout compatibility would be really nice to have.
I intend to do just that actually. :)
If you're going to replicate it, at least pay homage and do it in a different profile. This is just boring copy/pasting.
Post by: breusch91 on Thu, 09 March 2017, 21:14:37
Please make it the same profile as the original! Some new layout compatibility would be really nice to have.
I intend to do just that actually. :)
If you're going to replicate it, at least pay homage and do it in a different profile. This is just boring copy/pasting.
Agreed please don't do original profile. At that point you might as well just go all R3 because with the uptick in smaller boards such as 65%, 60% and 40% you are basically giving a full R3 board.
Please make this a fully sculpted set.
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Post by: nastrovje on Fri, 10 March 2017, 09:21:52
Post by: potatobot on Fri, 10 March 2017, 09:41:11
I hope MaxKey/ModKey would be a viable option for this as the set/s i got from their previous sale was good enough. I hear they are improving on the current issues too. :thumb:
Post by: zenless on Fri, 10 March 2017, 09:46:22
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Post by: zabuza1997 on Fri, 10 March 2017, 12:17:15
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Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 10 March 2017, 12:23:56
I have always dreamed of having this set! I am interested! However, will this be running through Maxkey because of SP's backlog?
from the original post, crapiface mentioned that he already talked to SP about making it. So it stands to reason that SP is gonna make it
Post by: Str1pez on Fri, 10 March 2017, 12:47:48
Anyone know if someone is gonna do Hack'd By Geeks again? That's the set I'd personally love someone to re-run.
Post by: Arallu on Fri, 10 March 2017, 13:23:27
Post by: punksinatra on Fri, 10 March 2017, 13:52:46
Post by: nastrovje on Fri, 10 March 2017, 14:13:16
I'd get down on this for sure.
Anyone know if someone is gonna do Hack'd By Geeks again? That's the set I'd personally love someone to re-run.
Last I saw, jdcarpe mentioned it may come to PMK store?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79797.msg2234591#msg2234591
Would kill to get Hack'd by Geeks for retail price!
Post by: Niomosy on Sat, 11 March 2017, 02:54:36
Post by: maximm on Sat, 11 March 2017, 06:53:49
Post by: feediko on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:11:22
Post by: Niomosy on Sun, 12 March 2017, 00:55:54
Maxkeys does not seem to have ISO/Norde molds so please go with SP/MD :)
By the time SP is a possibility, we'd already have a round of MaxKeys out and could do another round with SP/MD later. The other option is to get those molds made. Maxkeys seem to be willing to do novelties.
Post by: potatobot on Sun, 12 March 2017, 06:10:55
Maxkeys does not seem to have ISO/Norde molds so please go with SP/MD :)
By the time SP is a possibility, we'd already have a round of MaxKeys out and could do another round with SP/MD later. The other option is to get those molds made. Maxkeys seem to be willing to do novelties.
Yep they are willing to make novelties but the pricing was a bit high for each design. But if the demand is high, they know what to do :thumb:
Post by: breusch91 on Sun, 12 March 2017, 19:05:22
Maxkeys does not seem to have ISO/Norde molds so please go with SP/MD :)
By the time SP is a possibility, we'd already have a round of MaxKeys out and could do another round with SP/MD later. The other option is to get those molds made. Maxkeys seem to be willing to do novelties.
Yep they are willing to make novelties but the pricing was a bit high for each design. But if the demand is high, they know what to do :thumb:
I think even if this pricing was a bit high you're still saving a good amount in the end. I mean don't forget originative is running a GB for them and you get a full size keyset for $75, even if novelties bumped that price up $50 it's still worth it imo
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Post by: nastrovje on Tue, 14 March 2017, 06:43:45
(http://i.imgur.com/YrR5VZl.png)
There is also a Hack'd by Geeks imitate coming
(http://i.imgur.com/14C1mJ8.png)
GB: https://www.keyclack.com/product/group-buy-maxkey-sa/ (https://www.keyclack.com/product/group-buy-maxkey-sa/)
Post by: FLOCKA on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:13:58
Post by: Niomosy on Sat, 18 March 2017, 03:27:51
I'm definitely interested if the original designer has given his blessing!
Does it matter?
(https://i.imgur.com/9gDp7ZG.mp4) (https://i.imgur.com/9gDp7ZG.mp4)
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sun, 19 March 2017, 04:21:28
Post by: clappingcactus on Sun, 19 March 2017, 09:07:26
Post by: potatobot on Sun, 19 March 2017, 20:28:59
I'm definitely interested if the original designer has given his blessing!
I dont think it matters though haha unless novelties were also copied.
Post by: ghostdeini on Sun, 19 March 2017, 20:48:49
I'm definitely interested if the original designer has given his blessing!
I dont think it matters though haha unless novelties were also copied.
Good point, consider me on board! Personally I would much rather go with SP as the manufacturer since they have a proven track record and you know exactly what you're getting. I love that Maxkeys is introducing some much-needed competition into the market, but there's something to be said for supporting an American business and its workers.
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:01:25
I'd rather support a company that has been nothing but nice to its customers than a company using recycled broken molds to undercut the competition. This whole anti-SP nonsense is childish and entitled.
It's not really anti-SP so much as pro competition and availability of product. To call it entitled seems a poor choice of words. You simply have what's essentially been a monopoly in SP SA caps and now another maker comes along that can provide a similar product. That has people curious to see what's going to come of it. Personally, I hope MaxKeys does well. Competition is always good and, perhaps, that will help encourage SP to invest in some additional tooling/molds to handle the SA load.
Post by: potatobot on Mon, 20 March 2017, 04:04:09
I'd rather support a company that has been nothing but nice to its customers than a company using recycled broken molds to undercut the competition. This whole anti-SP nonsense is childish and entitled.
It's not really anti-SP so much as pro competition and availability of product. To call it entitled seems a poor choice of words. You simply have what's essentially been a monopoly in SP SA caps and now another maker comes along that can provide a similar product. That has people curious to see what's going to come of it. Personally, I hope MaxKeys does well. Competition is always good and, perhaps, that will help encourage SP to invest in some additional tooling/molds to handle the SA load.
This, yeah SP has been around monopolizing this profile for awhile, we only see new color combinations and novelty design from the community. But what about triple shot? :D
Post by: Ouhei on Mon, 20 March 2017, 08:33:29
Yeah, I have nothing against SP, but the more options we have the better off we all are. With the wait time that SP currently has on SA Profile caps, Maxkey has a great opportunity to fulfill demand for that profile. As of now they seem more limited in what they can do (no changing legends or doing novelties) but it's a great alternative to get some cool colorways out there.I'd rather support a company that has been nothing but nice to its customers than a company using recycled broken molds to undercut the competition. This whole anti-SP nonsense is childish and entitled.
It's not really anti-SP so much as pro competition and availability of product. To call it entitled seems a poor choice of words. You simply have what's essentially been a monopoly in SP SA caps and now another maker comes along that can provide a similar product. That has people curious to see what's going to come of it. Personally, I hope MaxKeys does well. Competition is always good and, perhaps, that will help encourage SP to invest in some additional tooling/molds to handle the SA load.
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 21 March 2017, 00:43:35
Post by: zoomwalt on Wed, 22 March 2017, 01:39:21
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 22 March 2017, 17:15:13
Post by: dubious on Wed, 22 March 2017, 17:42:50
Any thoughts on GMK Calm Depths? Would be a shorter wait time for sure.
It would not have the large centered legends, and IMHO that's sorta what makes the set work. It would look good in GMK I'm sure, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 22 March 2017, 17:50:37
Any thoughts on GMK Calm Depths? Would be a shorter wait time for sure.
It would not have the large centered legends, and IMHO that's sorta what makes the set work. It would look good in GMK I'm sure, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
True... MaxKeys might be the solution, then.
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 22 March 2017, 18:45:06
Any thoughts on GMK Calm Depths? Would be a shorter wait time for sure.
It would not have the large centered legends, and IMHO that's sorta what makes the set work. It would look good in GMK I'm sure, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not sure how much that matters, truthfully. What would need to be considered are the colors, though. The current GMK cyan is not nearly as bright in person as some of the pictures make it out to be so a custom color for the cyan/turquoise might be in order.
Post by: ghostdeini on Wed, 29 March 2017, 10:53:47
Any thoughts on GMK Calm Depths? Would be a shorter wait time for sure.
It would not have the large centered legends, and IMHO that's sorta what makes the set work. It would look good in GMK I'm sure, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not sure how much that matters, truthfully. What would need to be considered are the colors, though. The current GMK cyan is not nearly as bright in person as some of the pictures make it out to be so a custom color for the cyan/turquoise might be in order.
Yeah but then it would no longer be the legendary SA Calm Depths! :)
TBH, I'm not sure if an interest check for a GMK version would fare as well, since there's more competition in terms of navy-colored sets..
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 29 March 2017, 16:38:00
Any thoughts on GMK Calm Depths? Would be a shorter wait time for sure.
It would not have the large centered legends, and IMHO that's sorta what makes the set work. It would look good in GMK I'm sure, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not sure how much that matters, truthfully. What would need to be considered are the colors, though. The current GMK cyan is not nearly as bright in person as some of the pictures make it out to be so a custom color for the cyan/turquoise might be in order.
Yeah but then it would no longer be the legendary SA Calm Depths! :)
TBH, I'm not sure if an interest check for a GMK version would fare as well, since there's more competition in terms of navy-colored sets..
I think GMK Nautilus has the Calm Depths alpha colors covered pretty well and there's been good interest in that set. We might look toward DSA instead for those that want spherical caps with centered legends.
Post by: SeedyOne on Sun, 02 April 2017, 05:21:54
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Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 02 April 2017, 05:45:21
Post by: nsmechkb on Sun, 02 April 2017, 08:33:50
A dream set would be GMK Calm Depths.
I don't doubt SA will be a monetary and aesthetic success, but GMK would be more welcome by people looking for a keyset to type on.
Post by: nsmechkb on Sun, 02 April 2017, 08:36:32
I think GMK Nautilus has the Calm Depths alpha colors covered pretty well and there's been good interest in that set. We might look toward DSA instead for those that want spherical caps with centered legends.
I agree about the GMK Nautilus alphas. Nautilus is super nice. But it suits its own theme. The yellow legends in the modifiers give a totally different impression from Calm Depths.
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 03 April 2017, 00:58:33
Calm Depths SA looks amazing, but I hear few reports of people who like typing on SA keycaps, while many people say that they don't like typing on SA.
A dream set would be GMK Calm Depths.
I don't doubt SA will be a monetary and aesthetic success, but GMK would be more welcome by people looking for a keyset to type on.
I agree that GMK would be a fine choice. I'm currently typing on GMK Skeletor. I was more originally commenting on centered legends. DSA might work well there.
Post by: doom2 on Mon, 17 April 2017, 16:21:17
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Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 17 April 2017, 16:23:57
What is the status on this? Crapiface basically made the IC and left. I'm suspecting a bamboozle.
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The IC was shut down, IIRC, as the original designer / GB runner did not want for this particular GB to be run. The IC organizer did not properly contact the past runner for advice/permission to re-run.
Post by: Weiss on Mon, 17 April 2017, 16:46:35
What is the status on this? Crapiface basically made the IC and left. I'm suspecting a bamboozle.
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The IC was shut down, IIRC, as the original designer / GB runner did not want for this particular GB to be run. The IC organizer did not properly contact the past runner for advice/permission to re-run.
Wow really? From what I read on Reddit, the IC organizer said he ran it by the initial designer and got his permission. Really big bamboozle.
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 17 April 2017, 17:09:13
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 17 April 2017, 17:13:50
Unfortunately, that was not the case, as some community members decided to look into it a little more deeply and figured it was indeed a bamboozle. Anyone may correct me if I am mistaken. I don't want to misinform anyone, but this is what I read/heard.
Do you remember where it was discussed?
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 17 April 2017, 17:34:04
r/mk had its IC posted by OP, but there haven't been updates since, so it appears as though it won't be going anywhere for now, or it is waiting for the SP queue to clear up (which won't happen given the increasing influx of ICs for SA sets):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5y2whb/buyingcalm_depths_poll_up_on_massdrop_more_info/
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 18 April 2017, 02:15:31
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 18 April 2017, 12:54:18
So... then someone else start a new thread and run it? It's going to be a while if it remains SP SA. Otherwise, there's MaxKeys SA, GMK, DSA, and DCS as considerations.
As confusing as these things are, I think SP recently said something about not wanting to re-run sets without the original person's permission (or something) after that Penumbra thing went down. Since it seems like permission was not given by the original GB runner, starting another IC thread doesn't seem to be the issue. Getting the OK to run the set seems to be the issue. As it always is.
So, I don't think it's going to be happening if this is the case. Kind of silly if you ask me.
Post by: doom2 on Tue, 18 April 2017, 13:41:57
Post by: Crapiface on Tue, 18 April 2017, 15:06:33
AFAIK it was discussed on a private chat channel, and one of my friends relayed me the info casually when we met. I'm so sorry for not providing a solid, reliable source.
r/mk had its IC posted by OP, but there haven't been updates since, so it appears as though it won't be going anywhere for now, or it is waiting for the SP queue to clear up (which won't happen given the increasing influx of ICs for SA sets):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5y2whb/buyingcalm_depths_poll_up_on_massdrop_more_info/
This was never discussed. I will update the IC.
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 18 April 2017, 15:12:20
Has the "permission" been obtained from the original runner and Melissa from SP? Can we get proof?AFAIK it was discussed on a private chat channel, and one of my friends relayed me the info casually when we met. I'm so sorry for not providing a solid, reliable source.
r/mk had its IC posted by OP, but there haven't been updates since, so it appears as though it won't be going anywhere for now, or it is waiting for the SP queue to clear up (which won't happen given the increasing influx of ICs for SA sets):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5y2whb/buyingcalm_depths_poll_up_on_massdrop_more_info/
This was never discussed. I will update the IC.
I wish this does become a GB.
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Post by: Crapiface on Tue, 18 April 2017, 15:13:41
What is the status on this? Crapiface basically made the IC and left. I'm suspecting a bamboozle.
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The IC was shut down, IIRC, as the original designer / GB runner did not want for this particular GB to be run. The IC organizer did not properly contact the past runner for advice/permission to re-run.
Wow really? From what I read on Reddit, the IC organizer said he ran it by the initial designer and got his permission. Really big bamboozle.
This never happened. Check the original post, I updated it.
Post by: Crapiface on Tue, 18 April 2017, 15:16:16
Has the "permission" been obtained from the original runner and Melissa from SP? Can we get proof?AFAIK it was discussed on a private chat channel, and one of my friends relayed me the info casually when we met. I'm so sorry for not providing a solid, reliable source.This was never discussed. I will update the IC.
r/mk had its IC posted by OP, but there haven't been updates since, so it appears as though it won't be going anywhere for now, or it is waiting for the SP queue to clear up (which won't happen given the increasing influx of ICs for SA sets):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5y2whb/buyingcalm_depths_poll_up_on_massdrop_more_info/
I wish this does become a GB.
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Done and done!
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 18 April 2017, 15:19:51
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Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 April 2017, 15:20:28
Has the "permission" been obtained from the original runner and Melissa from SP? Can we get proof?AFAIK it was discussed on a private chat channel, and one of my friends relayed me the info casually when we met. I'm so sorry for not providing a solid, reliable source.This was never discussed. I will update the IC.
r/mk had its IC posted by OP, but there haven't been updates since, so it appears as though it won't be going anywhere for now, or it is waiting for the SP queue to clear up (which won't happen given the increasing influx of ICs for SA sets):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5y2whb/buyingcalm_depths_poll_up_on_massdrop_more_info/
I wish this does become a GB.
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Done and done!
You might want to edit out email addresses in the images you posted but congrats on trying to do things the right way and good luck moving forward.
Post by: Crapiface on Tue, 18 April 2017, 15:29:31
Has the "permission" been obtained from the original runner and Melissa from SP? Can we get proof?AFAIK it was discussed on a private chat channel, and one of my friends relayed me the info casually when we met. I'm so sorry for not providing a solid, reliable source.This was never discussed. I will update the IC.
r/mk had its IC posted by OP, but there haven't been updates since, so it appears as though it won't be going anywhere for now, or it is waiting for the SP queue to clear up (which won't happen given the increasing influx of ICs for SA sets):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5y2whb/buyingcalm_depths_poll_up_on_massdrop_more_info/
I wish this does become a GB.
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Done and done!
You might want to edit out email addresses in the images you posted but congrats on trying to do things the right way and good luck moving forward.
On the other hand, nobody would believe me if I edited them out :P I don't really care about my email address.
Post by: pikafunky on Tue, 18 April 2017, 15:54:57
Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 18 April 2017, 20:47:42
If this does run, please keep it SA profile. I think part of the appeal of the set is with the profile and, at least personally, I would be sad to see it changed.
I'd like SA Profile to but not how it was run. Would love a fully sculpted set. This was something like R1,R2,R3,R3,R3 correct?
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Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 18 April 2017, 21:11:25
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 18 April 2017, 23:32:08
Has the "permission" been obtained from the original runner and Melissa from SP? Can we get proof?AFAIK it was discussed on a private chat channel, and one of my friends relayed me the info casually when we met. I'm so sorry for not providing a solid, reliable source.
r/mk had its IC posted by OP, but there haven't been updates since, so it appears as though it won't be going anywhere for now, or it is waiting for the SP queue to clear up (which won't happen given the increasing influx of ICs for SA sets):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5y2whb/buyingcalm_depths_poll_up_on_massdrop_more_info/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5y2whb/buyingcalm_depths_poll_up_on_massdrop_more_info/)
This was never discussed. I will update the IC.
Treat it like any other "classic" set that's been run many times over and just run it.
As for Melissa, we've got it in another thread from a while back in the Keycaps forum from Melissa that no explicit permission was needed for the colorways themselves.
Post by: SeedyOne on Thu, 20 April 2017, 23:36:09
If this does run, please keep it SA profile. I think part of the appeal of the set is with the profile and, at least personally, I would be sad to see it changed.
Agreed. Interested at same profile.
Post by: RyuDragoon on Fri, 21 April 2017, 08:53:31
Post by: The_Boom_Boy on Fri, 21 April 2017, 09:01:06
Post by: doom2 on Fri, 21 April 2017, 10:03:41
Post by: rmendis on Fri, 21 April 2017, 10:05:13
If this does run, please keep it SA profile. I think part of the appeal of the set is with the profile and, at least personally, I would be sad to see it changed.
Agreed. Interested at same profile.
+3 for SA. Not sure I would be interested otherwise, tbh. It would be a travesty to run this set in any other profile. I would gladly wait.
Post by: waldorf120 on Fri, 21 April 2017, 16:36:28
Post by: atypikal on Sat, 22 April 2017, 00:35:52
Post by: kevinzavier on Mon, 01 May 2017, 13:39:42
Post by: rustywok on Mon, 01 May 2017, 16:31:55
Post by: online on Mon, 01 May 2017, 17:21:22
Post by: diqkiq on Mon, 01 May 2017, 18:49:27
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Post by: kevinzavier on Wed, 10 May 2017, 18:29:31
Post by: doom2 on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:40:55
Bump, any news on this?
I would PM the guy on reddit. His username is somewhere in this thread.
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 14 May 2017, 00:14:18
Post by: dblack on Wed, 17 May 2017, 04:49:54
Post by: doom2 on Wed, 17 May 2017, 13:51:19
For reference, here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48214.msg1032276#msg1032276) is the original GB page, with kits and all that.
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 17 May 2017, 15:48:00
Post by: kevinzavier on Wed, 17 May 2017, 16:24:57
Post by: kevinzavier on Mon, 22 May 2017, 19:38:21
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 22 May 2017, 20:53:21
Should I pick this up, what skills do I need?
As in running the GB? You either need to be more well known or have the backing of someone trustworthy.
Post by: zoomwalt on Mon, 22 May 2017, 23:27:02
Should I pick this up, what skills do I need?
As in running the GB? You either need to be more well known or have the backing of someone trustworthy.
I have no fear of getting scammed as long as we use PayPal.
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 22 May 2017, 23:48:03
As for PayPal, if going with Signature Plastics, the buy period would be pretty far out and depending on when the money is taken, you might be well outside a refund window before there's a problem.
MaxKeys and MassDrop or Originative would be a good duo here unless people are willing to wait until slots open up for SP SA.
Post by: kevinzavier on Tue, 23 May 2017, 00:08:48
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 23 May 2017, 22:59:47
So is there anything that people, other than OP can do to make this gb happen at all
If they want to, sure. Someone can take the info already known, throw that into KLE for a base level of mockups, then see if MaxKeys is willing to produce it. Otherwise? The set is in limbo while we wait to see when SP will allow orders again for doubleshot SA sets.
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 23 May 2017, 23:07:56
Post by: kevinzavier on Wed, 24 May 2017, 01:49:08
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 24 May 2017, 01:57:02
Why does it necessarily need to be SP SA, why not MaxKeys SA? Should be the same right? Or at least very closeGotta get good compatibility kits
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Post by: doom2 on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:13:42
So is there anything that people, other than OP can do to make this gb happen at all
I've been in touch with Crapiface via reddit. He's hoping to post some kit ideas soon. Also looking for somebody to do renders. Seen a lot of Oblotzky's work, but if you know someone else, let me know! :thumb:
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:30:02
So is there anything that people, other than OP can do to make this gb happen at all
I've been in touch with Crapiface via reddit. He's hoping to post some kit ideas soon. Also looking for somebody to do renders. Seen a lot of Oblotzky's work, but if you know someone else, let me know! :thumb:
Ready to rock'n'roll, I'll gladly help out designing the kits to ensure great compatibility
Post by: doom2 on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:38:08
I've been in touch with Crapiface via reddit. He's hoping to post some kit ideas soon. Also looking for somebody to do renders. Seen a lot of Oblotzky's work, but if you know someone else, let me know! :thumb:
Ready to rock'n'roll, I'll gladly help out designing the kits to ensure great compatibility
:eek: Thanks! I'll get him in touch with you!
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 24 May 2017, 13:33:01
Post by: rmendis on Wed, 24 May 2017, 13:39:19
So is there anything that people, other than OP can do to make this gb happen at all
I've been in touch with Crapiface via reddit. He's hoping to post some kit ideas soon. Also looking for somebody to do renders. Seen a lot of Oblotzky's work, but if you know someone else, let me know! :thumb:
Ready to rock'n'roll, I'll gladly help out designing the kits to ensure great compatibility
HYPE!
Post by: dblack on Wed, 24 May 2017, 14:07:57
So is there anything that people, other than OP can do to make this gb happen at all
I've been in touch with Crapiface via reddit. He's hoping to post some kit ideas soon. Also looking for somebody to do renders. Seen a lot of Oblotzky's work, but if you know someone else, let me know! :thumb:
Ready to rock'n'roll, I'll gladly help out designing the kits to ensure great compatibility
HYPE!
Ill be so happy if this happens.
Post by: doom2 on Wed, 24 May 2017, 17:15:59
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 24 May 2017, 18:41:16
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170524/4664e6a88f0ed4a7c266abee554414d6.jpg)
On the subject of one big kit. Those of us that already have calm depths are just looking to add in compatibility, not buy a whole other set. Having smaller kits doesn't take away anything from those that are buying for the first time, they just buy what they need.
Post by: Crapiface on Thu, 25 May 2017, 15:45:43
In the updated "big kit" i noticed the 1u /| is grey instead of blue. Normally it's made to match the alpha color. Then symmetry like this is possible.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170524/4664e6a88f0ed4a7c266abee554414d6.jpg)
On the subject of one big kit. Those of us that already have calm depths are just looking to add in compatibility, not buy a whole other set. Having smaller kits doesn't take away anything from those that are buying for the first time, they just buy what they need.
I'm currently looking at the possiblity of doing and adapter kit for the R1 guys in a smaller kit. The only problem is... well see Update 5-25.
Post by: kevinzavier on Thu, 25 May 2017, 16:16:14
Post by: Crapiface on Thu, 25 May 2017, 20:32:03
I think MaxKeys would be better, even if it means a loss in compatibility? You should do a poll for SA DSA or MaxKeys SA.
I will put up a poll tomorrow. I've updated the post again!
Post by: Niomosy on Fri, 26 May 2017, 00:51:47
Why does it necessarily need to be SP SA, why not MaxKeys SA? Should be the same right? Or at least very closeGotta get good compatibility kits
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The set will sell well regardless of those compatibility kits. I think the importance of them is a bit overstated.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 26 May 2017, 01:28:52
Lol. Then what is the point of making any set ever?Why does it necessarily need to be SP SA, why not MaxKeys SA? Should be the same right? Or at least very closeGotta get good compatibility kits
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The set will sell well regardless of those compatibility kits. I think the importance of them is a bit overstated.
Post by: Niomosy on Fri, 26 May 2017, 02:25:10
Lol. Then what is the point of making any set ever?Why does it necessarily need to be SP SA, why not MaxKeys SA? Should be the same right? Or at least very closeGotta get good compatibility kits
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The set will sell well regardless of those compatibility kits. I think the importance of them is a bit overstated.
I'm referring to the compatibility kits being overstated in their importance within a set.
Post by: a_ak57 on Fri, 26 May 2017, 06:56:08
Post by: potatobot on Fri, 26 May 2017, 11:22:34
Post by: Niomosy on Fri, 26 May 2017, 22:46:50
People don't want compatibility kits to maximize profits for the GB runner, they want them because they want compatibility for their keyboards.
Yes but it's an item that provides extras to a very small population. Blanks can cover any caps missing for the odd layouts requiring those specialty sets. That or check with MaxKeys to see about making the missing keys.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 26 May 2017, 23:18:38
...People don't want compatibility kits to maximize profits for the GB runner, they want them because they want compatibility for their keyboards.
Yes but it's an item that provides extras to a very small population. Blanks can cover any caps missing for the odd layouts requiring those specialty sets. That or check with MaxKeys to see about making the missing keys.
Post by: a_ak57 on Sat, 27 May 2017, 00:29:08
Post by: potatobot on Sat, 27 May 2017, 09:06:23
made this render for reference.
(http://i.imgur.com/ozLE3Dn.jpg)
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sat, 27 May 2017, 14:31:13
Id still vote for SP, i wouldn't waste this colorway if its going to be made without compatibility kits and subpar quality.
Once this hit Reddit it was a whirlwind of votes for MaxKeys and not caring about potentially poor quality. I agree it feels like a wasted opportunity. The one stipulation here is that I'd need it to be done through MD or O.Co or KeyClack or some business so that I have some confidence in being able to get my money back outside of PP protection and general confidence in the runner being substantially invested in seeing its completion in a timely manner.
Post by: Niomosy on Sat, 27 May 2017, 14:55:21
For one thing, you can't simply just buy proper blanks for any set (not to mention it'd look bad to have a mostly printed set with a blank here and there). And another, by that logic no keyset should have any compatibility outside the normal 104 since you can just buy blanks. Heck, don't even bother with normal sets at all, just use blanks.
MaxKeys would cover a majority of the need. That's my point. There's small amounts they might not cover and that's typically stuff like 1u modifiers for ortholinear keyboards and a few other things. Otherwise, MaxKeys is at about a point where SP was originally with SA caps - missing some keys for newer layouts and kerning issues but otherwise able to produce sets and kits that will cover most keyboards.
Post by: maximm on Sat, 27 May 2017, 15:11:25
For one thing, you can't simply just buy proper blanks for any set (not to mention it'd look bad to have a mostly printed set with a blank here and there). And another, by that logic no keyset should have any compatibility outside the normal 104 since you can just buy blanks. Heck, don't even bother with normal sets at all, just use blanks.
MaxKeys would cover a majority of the need. That's my point. There's small amounts they might not cover and that's typically stuff like 1u modifiers for ortholinear keyboards and a few other things. Otherwise, MaxKeys is at about a point where SP was originally with SA caps - missing some keys for newer layouts and kerning issues but otherwise able to produce sets and kits that will cover most keyboards.
Thats BS. MaxKeys are for example missing ISO compatibility which 20% of users use. They also do not make NORDEUK kits.
Post by: Niomosy on Sat, 27 May 2017, 15:29:15
For one thing, you can't simply just buy proper blanks for any set (not to mention it'd look bad to have a mostly printed set with a blank here and there). And another, by that logic no keyset should have any compatibility outside the normal 104 since you can just buy blanks. Heck, don't even bother with normal sets at all, just use blanks.
MaxKeys would cover a majority of the need. That's my point. There's small amounts they might not cover and that's typically stuff like 1u modifiers for ortholinear keyboards and a few other things. Otherwise, MaxKeys is at about a point where SP was originally with SA caps - missing some keys for newer layouts and kerning issues but otherwise able to produce sets and kits that will cover most keyboards.
Thats BS. MaxKeys are for example missing ISO compatibility which 20% of users use. They also do not make NORDEUK kits.
Still covers a large amount of the keyboard buying population. Again, you could likely run a MaxKeys run while sitting in queue for SP and still have ample time between runs the way things are going with SP and people already waiting to get into the queue again. That or do as some other buys have done and run it on DSA or such while waiting for a slot in the SA queue. Seems to have worked out for Oblivion. A GMK/SA duo would work out well, covering the fans of SA while also covering the fans of GMK.
Post by: boogiemanspud on Sun, 28 May 2017, 22:35:55
One question, why are the letters on the render so small? Part of the appeal to me is that the original had large centered letters. If only SP can make large centered letters, I'd gladly wait til 2018 to get them.
I'm fine with MaxKeys as long as the colors are close and there are large centered letters. As far as profile, I'd only buy SA. After using SA, there's no way I'd want any other profile. I'm fine with MaxKeys, but honestly, I'm also fine with SP, even with the 2018 wait time. I don't really care how long it takes, as long as we can get Calm Depths in SA profile.
IDK how much of a pain it would be, but it would be nice to see 60% kits as not everyone wants full sets, but a full set would be just fine if it simplifies ordering and the manufacturing process.
As much as I want a Calm Depths now, I don't want one with tiny letters. To me, this really hinges on that. IMO it would be worth the wait for large letters. If it goes SP route, it will also allow oddball adapter kits and such. I don't know what the novelties were as I've never seen them, but with SP and the blessing of the original maker, they probably could re-produce them. I seriously doubt that they would get rid of the tooling for novelties as it's a major investment.
Post by: potatobot on Mon, 29 May 2017, 05:57:04
For one thing, you can't simply just buy proper blanks for any set (not to mention it'd look bad to have a mostly printed set with a blank here and there). And another, by that logic no keyset should have any compatibility outside the normal 104 since you can just buy blanks. Heck, don't even bother with normal sets at all, just use blanks.
MaxKeys would cover a majority of the need. That's my point. There's small amounts they might not cover and that's typically stuff like 1u modifiers for ortholinear keyboards and a few other things. Otherwise, MaxKeys is at about a point where SP was originally with SA caps - missing some keys for newer layouts and kerning issues but otherwise able to produce sets and kits that will cover most keyboards.
Thats BS. MaxKeys are for example missing ISO compatibility which 20% of users use. They also do not make NORDEUK kits.
Still covers a large amount of the keyboard buying population. Again, you could likely run a MaxKeys run while sitting in queue for SP and still have ample time between runs the way things are going with SP and people already waiting to get into the queue again. That or do as some other buys have done and run it on DSA or such while waiting for a slot in the SA queue. Seems to have worked out for Oblivion. A GMK/SA duo would work out well, covering the fans of SA while also covering the fans of GMK.
Does anyone know if maxkey can offer customization of sculpt? AFAIK they only had 12343 (had the purple/white and black/white sets)....
Running it on both profiles would affect the number of participants per profile... I think that's what happened to oblivion. Unless someone orders the rest of the sets to meet the MOQ, both profiles would end up not being run at all.
As someone who has compared the mk and sp SA keycap, I must say that MK isn't any slouch but the problem is that they can only offer that pricing at very high quantities... So they most probably would offer the sets in the 127-ish keys they did last time.
I made an account just for this IC. I've been wanting an Calm Depths forever. After wanting one for about two years, I decided to see if anyone wanted to trade for a full Chocolatier set with modifiers, novelties etc. Very surprised to see they were going from $500+, to me that means the demand for these caps is very high, high enough to warrant another run.
One question, why are the letters on the render so small? Part of the appeal to me is that the original had large centered letters. If only SP can make large centered letters, I'd gladly wait til 2018 to get them.
I'm fine with MaxKeys as long as the colors are close and there are large centered letters. As far as profile, I'd only buy SA. After using SA, there's no way I'd want any other profile. I'm fine with MaxKeys, but honestly, I'm also fine with SP, even with the 2018 wait time. I don't really care how long it takes, as long as we can get Calm Depths in SA profile.
IDK how much of a pain it would be, but it would be nice to see 60% kits as not everyone wants full sets, but a full set would be just fine if it simplifies ordering and the manufacturing process.
As much as I want a Calm Depths now, I don't want one with tiny letters. To me, this really hinges on that. IMO it would be worth the wait for large letters. If it goes SP route, it will also allow oddball adapter kits and such. I don't know what the novelties were as I've never seen them, but with SP and the blessing of the original maker, they probably could re-produce them. I seriously doubt that they would get rid of the tooling for novelties as it's a major investment.
1. Mk and SP use the same font, LARGE ones. lol
2. there are moq's, if you only run a GB for 60% most probably you cant meet those quantities. that would be a waste of time for the manufacturer and the gb runner.
3. again, no tiny letters on SA profile unless you are talking about the vortex DSA caps which had small legends.
Refer to the render i made (the alt enter,esc,arrow,spacebars are my suggestion)
(http://i.imgur.com/ozLE3Dn.jpg)
Post by: Arallu on Mon, 29 May 2017, 10:20:19
Does anyone know if maxkey can offer customization of sculpt? AFAIK they only had 12343 (had the purple/white and black/white sets)....
112343 have been what all the Maxkey SA sets are, from running SA Taboo I was told adding anything other than the standard layouts that have been sold (the base 104 + small amount of adapter keys) would be priced at their novelty costs, if even available.
Those novelty charges were individually by profile & width, and at over $10 per key @100 moq, quickly becomes unrealistic unless Maxkey changes their novelty pricing or builds new molds themselves.
Post by: boogiemanspud on Mon, 29 May 2017, 14:00:27
1. Mk and SP use the same font, LARGE ones. lol
2. there are moq's, if you only run a GB for 60% most probably you cant meet those quantities. that would be a waste of time for the manufacturer and the gb runner.
3. again, no tiny letters on SA profile unless you are talking about the vortex DSA caps which had small legends.
Refer to the render i made (the alt enter,esc,arrow,spacebars are my suggestion)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ozLE3Dn.jpg)
1. Good to hear it's a large font, the render in the OP is what made me wonder as it looks small.
2. That's what I figured. I'm totally fine with a full size kit, my stand alone numpad will want a facelift too :)
Man, I'm getting excited!
Post by: Overchecken8 on Mon, 29 May 2017, 14:42:21
Post by: boogiemanspud on Mon, 29 May 2017, 16:03:18
Wait so this is DSA now? I've been following it for a while but not closely. No chance for even MaxKey SA?
It's my understanding they are deciding between DSA or MaxKeys SA. I personally hope they go SA.
Post by: Arallu on Mon, 29 May 2017, 16:32:13
Wait so this is DSA now? I've been following it for a while but not closely. No chance for even MaxKey SA?
It's my understanding they are deciding between DSA or MaxKeys SA. I personally hope they go SA.
Oh I see in the first post the change to DSA/Maxkey SA, that's ashame.
Don't be scared by long times.
Finalize the kits, get some quotes, a vendor and launch and get in the queue.
There's been 2 or 3 SP GBs launched since this IC was started.
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 30 May 2017, 00:12:35
Wait so this is DSA now? I've been following it for a while but not closely. No chance for even MaxKey SA?
It's my understanding they are deciding between DSA or MaxKeys SA. I personally hope they go SA.
Oh I see in the first post the change to DSA/Maxkey SA, that's ashame.
Don't be scared by long times.
Finalize the kits, get some quotes, a vendor and launch and get in the queue.
There's been 2 or 3 SP GBs launched since this IC was started.
It's not that huge a problem. SP can be used in the future if another run is desired.
Post by: jebbra on Thu, 01 June 2017, 01:52:17
Post by: Niomosy on Thu, 01 June 2017, 02:37:38
Maxkey typesetting is more horrible than already horrible SP's doubleshots. I have a dream about SP remaking their doubleshot moulds, working with seasoned typographer to make the typeset a lot better.
Rumor has it it's the old Comtec France SA tooling that MaxKeys bought complete with all the old issues SP had originally with SA. If so, we'd at least know what they are and be able to work on getting them fixed. The problem is more MaxKeys willingness to fix them rather than just crank out set after set with the molds they've already got. Hopefully they'll work with the community on making improvements. The community would certainly benefit from it and throw money at them in the process.
Post by: The_Boom_Boy on Thu, 01 June 2017, 03:11:48
Post by: Niomosy on Thu, 01 June 2017, 23:58:54
I feel like this set needs to be manufactured in SA profile and isn't suited at all to DSA. And the post with the cyan highlights just really goes against the theme of this set, to be calm and mellow, cyan is bright and not mellow. Any way.
Eh, the colors themselves would be fine on most any profile. Seems like people are feeling specifically nostalgic for SA which is fine but I also see no reason why this colorway can't run as another profile as well. It's not really an either-or decision in the long run, though a decision will need to be made about this specific run.
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 02 June 2017, 00:03:30
I feel like this set needs to be manufactured in SA profile and isn't suited at all to DSA. And the post with the cyan highlights just really goes against the theme of this set, to be calm and mellow, cyan is bright and not mellow. Any way.
Eh, the colors themselves would be fine on most any profile. Seems like people are feeling specifically nostalgic for SA which is fine but I also see no reason why this colorway can't run as another profile as well. It's not really an either-or decision in the long run, though a decision will need to be made about this specific run.
I'll only buy a set if it's SP SA.
Post by: h3xadat on Fri, 02 June 2017, 00:25:23
I'll only buy a set if it's SP SA.
+1 for SP SA
Post by: Niomosy on Fri, 02 June 2017, 22:45:05
I feel like this set needs to be manufactured in SA profile and isn't suited at all to DSA. And the post with the cyan highlights just really goes against the theme of this set, to be calm and mellow, cyan is bright and not mellow. Any way.
Eh, the colors themselves would be fine on most any profile. Seems like people are feeling specifically nostalgic for SA which is fine but I also see no reason why this colorway can't run as another profile as well. It's not really an either-or decision in the long run, though a decision will need to be made about this specific run.
I'll only buy a set if it's SP SA.
I'm sure there are plenty that will want SA. I'm also sure that there are plenty that will want some other profile. There's no reason the set need be restricted to a single profile. Additional runs on other profiles can always occur if people want them.
Post by: diqkiq on Sat, 03 June 2017, 22:09:05
Post by: MeloDet on Sat, 03 June 2017, 22:12:12
Post by: potatobot on Tue, 06 June 2017, 20:28:25
Edit: is this going to be via a vendor? or a traditional GB? Since some have issues with traditional gbs..
we also have to take into account that vendors have queues.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 06 June 2017, 21:09:06
why cant we just run it on another profile, then have it on queue for the SA profile. we know thats going to take awhile.
I wouldn't mind this idea. With the issues MaxKeys has with their sets, I wouldn't be interested in anything other than SP for SA profile. Also, I think OP originally said something about MD which gives protection for the long wait SP is bound to have but that MD probably has their own queue. The idea that selling sets from MaxKeys and then a set through MD could potentially split the ability to reach high MOQ, they also wouldn't really be the same set as SP provides superior legends and more compatibility.
Post by: kevinzavier on Tue, 06 June 2017, 21:15:32
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 06 June 2017, 21:23:46
superior legends? as in how the lettering looks like? I feel like thats a big deal. But id rather get a group buy that ships next year from maxkeys with limited compatability than something will all compatibility that ships 2019.
They used to have legend inconsistency but they may have fixed it, at least from a glance at what people post. "SHIF T" "Back Space" I think there is something with control that is weird too. Carbon is shipping April next year, if this gets into a queue in any sort of timely manner and you have patience to wait until next year then I'm not sure why you wouldn't just want a set from SP in 2018? I don't have anything against MaxKeys, I just don't think spending $80 on a set that isn't everything I want it to be (having ogled high price Calm Depths sets) isn't really saving money or time. I just think they aren't the same product.
The compatibility argument is a difficult one as if you are running a standard layout I can see why not giving a damn about other people's boards is attractive. To each their own on that.
Post by: potatobot on Tue, 06 June 2017, 22:23:33
superior legends? as in how the lettering looks like? I feel like thats a big deal. But id rather get a group buy that ships next year from maxkeys with limited compatability than something will all compatibility that ships 2019.
You have a point with the shipping dates being too far out for SP. For now i think we can have a gb via oco or zfrontier(which might be cheaper) for a maxkey with this colorway. I doubt they would follow through with the exact colorway though.
superior legends? as in how the lettering looks like? I feel like thats a big deal. But id rather get a group buy that ships next year from maxkeys with limited compatability than something will all compatibility that ships 2019.
They used to have legend inconsistency but they may have fixed it, at least from a glance at what people post. "SHIF T" "Back Space" I think there is something with control that is weird too. Carbon is shipping April next year, if this gets into a queue in any sort of timely manner and you have patience to wait until next year then I'm not sure why you wouldn't just want a set from SP in 2018? I don't have anything against MaxKeys, I just don't think spending $80 on a set that isn't everything I want it to be (having ogled high price Calm Depths sets) isn't really saving money or time. I just think they aren't the same product.
The compatibility argument is a difficult one as if you are running a standard layout I can see why not giving a damn about other people's boards is attractive. To each their own on that.
Yes every vendors have timelines to follow too. If OP is planning on being listed on MD, this isn't gonna run anytime soon. My keyset has been on massdrop's queue since last year. lol
Post by: doom2 on Wed, 07 June 2017, 11:53:18
Post by: lecorsair on Wed, 07 June 2017, 13:58:51
I think someone like KeyClack might be a better vendor. As for SP vs MaxKey, while the SA queue is indeed cray, I would rather people be able to get all the kit support they want (without going 7bit crazy) and decent legends. Word on the street is that MaxKey won't make new molds to support even the most basic of kits like ISO.
Are you sure about Maxkey not doing novel keys? That would mean SP's continued unfortunate domination of the market. Saw this on /reddit this week in fact. And zfrontier is a reputable shop.
http://www.zfrontier.com/m/2012?refer=m
Post by: Arallu on Wed, 07 June 2017, 14:02:29
I think someone like KeyClack might be a better vendor. As for SP vs MaxKey, while the SA queue is indeed cray, I would rather people be able to get all the kit support they want (without going 7bit crazy) and decent legends. Word on the street is that MaxKey won't make new molds to support even the most basic of kits like ISO.
Are you sure about Maxkey not doing novel keys? That would mean SP's continued unfortunate domination of the market. Saw this on /reddit this week in fact. And zfrontier is a reputable shop.
http://www.zfrontier.com/m/2012?refer=m
They may have changed their novelty prices, but when I ran SA Taboo last month it was over $10 per key, per width. Notice that novelty add-on jumps the price $30 - $40, which is alot when your set is < $90.
Post by: doom2 on Wed, 07 June 2017, 14:03:20
I think someone like KeyClack might be a better vendor. As for SP vs MaxKey, while the SA queue is indeed cray, I would rather people be able to get all the kit support they want (without going 7bit crazy) and decent legends. Word on the street is that MaxKey won't make new molds to support even the most basic of kits like ISO.
Are you sure about Maxkey not doing novel keys? That would mean SP's continued unfortunate domination of the market. Saw this on /reddit this week in fact. And zfrontier is a reputable shop.
http://www.zfrontier.com/m/2012?refer=m
MaxKey doing novelties for zFrontier and doing novelties for "western" buyers is a different thing. They're both Chinese companies ultimately supporting the Chinese market. It's probably worth at least trying, but it's far less of a guarantee than SP.
Post by: lecorsair on Wed, 07 June 2017, 14:15:02
I think someone like KeyClack might be a better vendor. As for SP vs MaxKey, while the SA queue is indeed cray, I would rather people be able to get all the kit support they want (without going 7bit crazy) and decent legends. Word on the street is that MaxKey won't make new molds to support even the most basic of kits like ISO.
Are you sure about Maxkey not doing novel keys? That would mean SP's continued unfortunate domination of the market. Saw this on /reddit this week in fact. And zfrontier is a reputable shop.
http://www.zfrontier.com/m/2012?refer=m
They may have changed their novelty prices, but when I ran SA Taboo last month it was over $10 per key, per width. Notice that novelty add-on jumps the price $30 - $40, which is alot when your set is < $90.
Yikes. Thanks for the insight, neat to learn about behind the scene little things like that.
Post by: Crapiface on Thu, 08 June 2017, 18:25:52
why cant we just run it on another profile, then have it on queue for the SA profile. we know thats going to take awhile.
Edit: is this going to be via a vendor? or a traditional GB? Since some have issues with traditional gbs..
we also have to take into account that vendors have queues.
That's probably what's gonna happen. I want to run it through MD.
Post by: potatobot on Thu, 08 June 2017, 19:32:05
why cant we just run it on another profile, then have it on queue for the SA profile. we know thats going to take awhile.
Edit: is this going to be via a vendor? or a traditional GB? Since some have issues with traditional gbs..
we also have to take into account that vendors have queues.
That's probably what's gonna happen. I want to run it through MD.
Has MD contacted you about it? Coz their queue is just as crazy.
Post by: Niomosy on Thu, 08 June 2017, 23:36:48
why cant we just run it on another profile, then have it on queue for the SA profile. we know thats going to take awhile.
Edit: is this going to be via a vendor? or a traditional GB? Since some have issues with traditional gbs..
we also have to take into account that vendors have queues.
That's probably what's gonna happen. I want to run it through MD.
Has MD contacted you about it? Coz their queue is just as crazy.
Seems like another vendor might be a good choice in this situation. MD can likely be used when the SP SA buy is cleared to run.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 27 June 2017, 17:16:30
#1 Alphas, split off from base kit to make Ergodox/40%/Ortho etc more accessible/cheaper
(http://i.imgur.com/RZJG1Li.png)
#2 Modifiers, but with the most common non-standard stuff, such as split long shift, WKL bottom row, R1 DEL/END/PAGE DOWN and stepped caps. A more GMK approach to the main kit of this set.
(http://i.imgur.com/OaWSHr4.png)
#3 Extension for HHKB, 65%, 75%, Minila, 60% with arrows etc (Edit: just noticed the duplicate R4 FUNC key in there, gotta remove that)
(http://i.imgur.com/qFdDR8H.png)
#4 Numpad
(http://i.imgur.com/mXffNLb.png)
What I would add to this:
- Ergodox (maybe with text like Professional on Carbon R2 drop?)
- 40%
- Ortho/Planck
- Arrows (both base colors)
- Dvorak & Colemak
- NorDeUK (or UK and NorDe split)
- GTA spacebars
- Spacekeys (both base colors)
- Community kit
- Accent kit maybe? Using legend color
Post by: tialdo on Tue, 27 June 2017, 23:59:41
Post by: Troif on Wed, 28 June 2017, 05:54:22
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Post by: limitz on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:38:40
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:42:07
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Post by: dubious on Wed, 28 June 2017, 11:40:53
Post by: Arallu on Wed, 28 June 2017, 11:48:42
Also should have at least a MENU or META key
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 28 June 2017, 12:05:42
Tbh, I'll wait for SP if it means getting all the right kits I want.
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At the rate SP is going, you could do both. Let the Good Enough crowd jump in on MaxKeys. Let the Patience Is A Virtue crowd jump in on SP.
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 28 June 2017, 12:13:01
Tbh, I'll wait for SP if it means getting all the right kits I want.
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At the rate SP is going, you could do both. Let the Good Enough crowd jump in on MaxKeys. Let the Patience Is A Virtue crowd jump in on SP.
I agree, I'd rather wait for it to be done properly. I plan to clack along on my keebs and keysets for decades.
FN > FUNC it's already burning my eyes in Carbon and Oblivion.
Also should have at least a MENU or META key
Looking at the 1.25u FN key of my Valentine set, I disagree at least on that key size. Will probably put it to a community vote together with a few other things when I've progressed further through the planned kits.
Post by: Arallu on Wed, 28 June 2017, 12:21:09
FN > FUNC it's already burning my eyes in Carbon and Oblivion.
Also should have at least a MENU or META key
Looking at the 1.25u FN key of my Valentine set, I disagree at least on that key size. Will probably put it to a community vote together with a few other things when I've progressed further through the planned kits.
Hmm, looks ok on my Hack'd.
I get that it's small but the func word just isn't appealing to me.
(https://i.imgur.com/2RuBpm6.jpg)
Post by: Crapiface on Wed, 28 June 2017, 13:00:11
FN > FUNC it's already burning my eyes in Carbon and Oblivion.
Also should have at least a MENU or META key
Looking at the 1.25u FN key of my Valentine set, I disagree at least on that key size. Will probably put it to a community vote together with a few other things when I've progressed further through the planned kits.
Hmm, looks ok on my Hack'd.
I get that it's small but the func word just isn't appealing to me.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2RuBpm6.jpg)
I like FN better than FUNC. We'll have to see what the community thinks about it. Once we have the renders and the kits sorted out, I'll put up a Google Form to get these "little" things sorted out.
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 03 July 2017, 18:25:16
Edit: big thanks to t0mb3ry for letting me copy paste his layouts for ergo prof/40% etc and taking the time to discuss some points
(http://i.imgur.com/5mEXOzd.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/TIYe4WO.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/uiMyo5Z.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Jp7Twqe.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/n36QAV0.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/lfhrUij.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/ttmxjTh.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/UXJDwKX.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/gue71fy.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/6AZ1OvG.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Z3ILdjN.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/pPLKbvC.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/gOwXSFO.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/n3jFt54.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/9Yjj4CB.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/QqiSPcU.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/UkBgFoQ.png)
Post by: Arallu on Mon, 03 July 2017, 18:32:18
From my cursory glance it looks great! :thumb:
Post by: Troif on Mon, 03 July 2017, 18:43:32
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Post by: robotsokk on Mon, 03 July 2017, 20:08:49
- Really like that there are options for ergodox keys as blanks or with legends. I know some folks gripe about ED kits with legends, but IMO legends provide an opportunity to add more visual interest to the keys.
- Hooray for 1.75U R4 shift in the base mod kit, and having the R1 del key.
I can't speak too much to the Colevrak kit, but I do not see any overt errors in the others.
As a stretch, it'd be nice to have a 'macros' kit. In a pinch, I could scrounge together R3 keys from other kits. For reference, the board I have in mind is something like the Red Scarf II+ vB.
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 03 July 2017, 20:22:26
It seems incredible! Please GB ASAP!
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ASAP could well be a wait. If through MassDrop, there will be a long queue. In either case, you're waiting at least 12 months to get the caps and probably longer given the need to finish things up, run the buy, give SP the money, then sit in a 12 month SA queue.
Post by: Shell058 on Mon, 03 July 2017, 21:24:52
I also agree that it should be FN instead of FUNC, just not a fan of that legend. Everything else looks awesome though, I'd probably end up picking up most of the kits!
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 04 July 2017, 01:30:11
As a stretch, it'd be nice to have a 'macros' kit. In a pinch, I could scrounge together R3 keys from other kits. For reference, the board I have in mind is something like the Red Scarf II+ vB.
Good idea, thoughts on legends? M1 - M10 maybe? Though would need to check if those legends exist, would be overkill if they didn't have molds yet.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 04 July 2017, 01:33:37
It seems incredible! Please GB ASAP!
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ASAP could well be a wait. If through MassDrop, there will be a long queue. In either case, you're waiting at least 12 months to get the caps and probably longer given the need to finish things up, run the buy, give SP the money, then sit in a 12 month SA queue.
I assume that is the why of the asap lol.
Post by: kevinzavier on Tue, 04 July 2017, 01:38:51
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 04 July 2017, 01:42:14
Why not maxkeys?
Keming
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 04 July 2017, 01:43:18
Why not maxkeys?
Because all the kits I posted above would not be possible, all you could get via Maxkeys is a pre-defined layout with 150something keys that cover fullsize and a few other layouts. Also a few fudged up legends like BACK SPACE and SHIF T
Post by: rmendis on Tue, 04 July 2017, 12:16:13
Why not maxkeys?
Keming
Not really. More because limited support for non-standard layouts.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 04 July 2017, 13:39:01
Why not maxkeys?
Keming
Not really. More because limited support for non-standard layouts.
SHIF T is a kerning issue. That is literally the name for that issue. Kerning is the spacing between characters.
This is literally called out by Oblotzsky directly before your post. So yes, really.
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Post by: Troif on Tue, 04 July 2017, 13:42:55
Really like what I see! Specific points I like:
- Really like that there are options for ergodox keys as blanks or with legends. I know some folks gripe about ED kits with legends, but IMO legends provide an opportunity to add more visual interest to the keys.
- Hooray for 1.75U R4 shift in the base mod kit, and having the R1 del key.
I can't speak too much to the Colevrak kit, but I do not see any overt errors in the others.
As a stretch, it'd be nice to have a 'macros' kit. In a pinch, I could scrounge together R3 keys from other kits. For reference, the board I have in mind is something like the Red Scarf II+ vB.
12 months? It is nothing to have a Calm Depths SA keyset I have been dreaming of forever...
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Post by: robotsokk on Tue, 04 July 2017, 13:55:35
As a stretch, it'd be nice to have a 'macros' kit. In a pinch, I could scrounge together R3 keys from other kits. For reference, the board I have in mind is something like the Red Scarf II+ vB.
Good idea, thoughts on legends? M1 - M10 maybe? Though would need to check if those legends exist, would be overkill if they didn't have molds yet.
I think M1-M10 would work well (hopefully they already have those legends)! I will give some thought to other stuff that might work... since there's not a special theme (like SA Oblivion, where the programming/computing theme is fitting and the legends follow from that), probably shouldn't be something too over-the-top. All that said, I think M1-M10 is an excellent option that wouldn't stick out from the rest of the set.
Post by: DreLLin on Tue, 04 July 2017, 14:04:03
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 04 July 2017, 22:58:46
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 05 July 2017, 02:01:33
Really like what I see! Specific points I like:
- Really like that there are options for ergodox keys as blanks or with legends. I know some folks gripe about ED kits with legends, but IMO legends provide an opportunity to add more visual interest to the keys.
- Hooray for 1.75U R4 shift in the base mod kit, and having the R1 del key.
I can't speak too much to the Colevrak kit, but I do not see any overt errors in the others.
As a stretch, it'd be nice to have a 'macros' kit. In a pinch, I could scrounge together R3 keys from other kits. For reference, the board I have in mind is something like the Red Scarf II+ vB.
12 months? It is nothing to have a Calm Depths SA keyset I have been dreaming of forever...
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For some people, it's a long wait. I've seen luthiers with multi-year waits for instruments. 12 months isn't that bad for SA caps if that's what you're after but some people aren't used to such long waits.
Post by: zabuza1997 on Fri, 07 July 2017, 19:13:26
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Post by: dblack on Sat, 08 July 2017, 02:38:01
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 08 July 2017, 04:34:03
So has he decided on Maxkeys or DSA yet? And is the option of SP SA still out?
This thread is aiming to get this done with SP in SA form. A separate thread can ofc be opened for DSA or so.
Oh, and I talked with Yanbo again, this is gonna take a while to plan/schedule etc, but the current intention is to get this done on MD.
Post by: clappingcactus on Sat, 08 July 2017, 08:45:30
This thread is aiming to get this done with SP in SA form. A separate thread can ofc be opened for DSA or so.
Oh, and I talked with Yanbo again, this is gonna take a while to plan/schedule etc, but the current intention is to get this done on MD.
I'm glad you're getting involved. Have you considered what profile you're running this in?
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 08 July 2017, 08:48:13
This thread is aiming to get this done with SP in SA form. A separate thread can ofc be opened for DSA or so.
Oh, and I talked with Yanbo again, this is gonna take a while to plan/schedule etc, but the current intention is to get this done on MD.
I'm glad you're getting involved. Have you considered what profile you're running this in?
What I've been working on so far is SA, but DSA or GMK could surely be done too at some point. I think in GMK form it would clash with Nautilus and Solarized Dark right now, but maybe in a while.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 08 July 2017, 15:02:24
Post by: clappingcactus on Sat, 08 July 2017, 22:03:29
This thread is aiming to get this done with SP in SA form. A separate thread can ofc be opened for DSA or so.
Oh, and I talked with Yanbo again, this is gonna take a while to plan/schedule etc, but the current intention is to get this done on MD.
I'm glad you're getting involved. Have you considered what profile you're running this in?
What I've been working on so far is SA, but DSA or GMK could surely be done too at some point. I think in GMK form it would clash with Nautilus and Solarized Dark right now, but maybe in a while.
Sorry, I asked my question in an INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY dumb way. For the SP SA, have you considered what Row profiles you'd be using? The original was 1-2-3-3-3-4 (which was good because colemak/dvorak compatibility was inherent). I know you personally prefer 1-1-2-3-4-3 on your sets though.
Post by: Hypocaffeinic on Sun, 09 July 2017, 11:31:15
Post by: Devkey on Sun, 09 July 2017, 21:42:08
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 10 July 2017, 23:13:48
This thread is aiming to get this done with SP in SA form. A separate thread can ofc be opened for DSA or so.
Oh, and I talked with Yanbo again, this is gonna take a while to plan/schedule etc, but the current intention is to get this done on MD.
I'm glad you're getting involved. Have you considered what profile you're running this in?
What I've been working on so far is SA, but DSA or GMK could surely be done too at some point. I think in GMK form it would clash with Nautilus and Solarized Dark right now, but maybe in a while.
Sorry, I asked my question in an INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY dumb way. For the SP SA, have you considered what Row profiles you'd be using? The original was 1-2-3-3-3-4 (which was good because colemak/dvorak compatibility was inherent). I know you personally prefer 1-1-2-3-4-3 on your sets though.
The kits are designed for a 112343 profile currently, indeed.
Small update:
Swapped capslock replacement keys, all stepped are now in the Extension, the regular ones in regular modifiers kit. Also removed modifier colored R1 \| key from Extension kit, didn't make too much sense since its the second key from the right on HHKB etc where it's used.
(http://i.imgur.com/373zce3.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/iv5kaR8.png)
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 11 July 2017, 14:32:48
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 11 July 2017, 14:33:16
(http://i.imgur.com/qxbI2xM.png)
Post by: ludd on Tue, 11 July 2017, 20:51:43
Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 12 July 2017, 00:12:26
I'd be more keen if it were Maxkeys, the wait for SP is absurd.
There is nothing absurd in waiting for the SP high quality and variety of sets. I'll wait for SP SA.
Post by: euphxenos on Wed, 12 July 2017, 01:18:40
I'd be more keen if it were Maxkeys, the wait for SP is absurd.
Can Maxkeys provide the range of molds that SP can? I've got a Maxkeys Portland set sitting in front of me right now, and am typing on a Saber68 (Originative's branded version of the Tada68 65%). I can't even cover my bottom row because it lacks the 1U Alt, Fn, and Ctrl, which is as far as I got before I gave up and put it back in the box (perhaps I should've bought the set with the extra cherry novelties for this, but I just don't like them). I suspect there are other issues with covering this board if I sat down and really tried. When I look at the range of keys in the various SP SA sets recently, the range and the compatibility that they provide is fantastic. To me, that's worth waiting for. Getting it fast doesn't help if it doesn't cover the keyboard layouts I use. If you're on a TKL or 100%, I can see Maxkeys being a viable alternative.
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Wed, 12 July 2017, 01:35:20
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 12 July 2017, 01:46:51
In here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84601.msg2456289#msg2456289) I've seen that Calm Depths is currently scheduled at SP?
I seem to remember a TaoBao GB popping up some time ago. I'm guessing that it is that.
Post by: robotsokk on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:58:06
Macros, legends should exist since DSA Miami Dolch has them too, but not sure if M0 is nice or if I should put M1 there insteadShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/qxbI2xM.png)
Thumbs up from me on the macros kit :thumb:
For the 2U macro key, what kind of board did you have in mind for it? I can't think of any off of the top of my head, so i don't have strong feedback re: using "M0" or "M1" for that key's legend...
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 12 July 2017, 10:30:45
Macros, legends should exist since DSA Miami Dolch has them too, but not sure if M0 is nice or if I should put M1 there insteadShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/qxbI2xM.png)
Thumbs up from me on the macros kit :thumb:
For the 2U macro key, what kind of board did you have in mind for it? I can't think of any off of the top of my head, so i don't have strong feedback re: using "M0" or "M1" for that key's legend...
RAMA M-10 for example
Post by: jakecromley on Wed, 12 July 2017, 10:39:25
Post by: Crapiface on Thu, 13 July 2017, 18:54:51
In here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84601.msg2456289#msg2456289) I've seen that Calm Depths is currently scheduled at SP?
I didn't order it.
Post by: yuppie on Thu, 13 July 2017, 22:34:11
Post by: limitz on Fri, 14 July 2017, 00:53:08
In here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84601.msg2456289#msg2456289) I've seen that Calm Depths is currently scheduled at SP?
I didn't order it.
China had a Calm Depths GB on Taobao last year.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5jx51p/news_sp_sa_calms_depths_gb_on_taobao/
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Could there be a possibility of a novelty pack? Perhaps something ocean themed to fit the set.
Post by: Asbrodeus on Fri, 14 July 2017, 06:10:51
Post by: ye_cole on Tue, 25 July 2017, 19:42:06
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 26 July 2017, 13:25:50
What's the status on this? It's been in IC for quite a while now.
Given the combination of MD and SP backlog, it's probably going to remain as such for quite a while. Even moving to another vendor, the backlog is such that you could purchase then wait a year before receiving the caps.
Post by: Crapiface on Wed, 26 July 2017, 15:39:53
What's the status on this? It's been in IC for quite a while now.
Still alive but I was quite busy with work and renovations at the house! But it'll come up on MD soon enough.
Post by: Cods on Sat, 29 July 2017, 17:54:51
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Post by: omegafivethreefive on Wed, 02 August 2017, 23:17:02
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 03 August 2017, 08:26:58
1-2-3-3-3-4 :(
That sculpt brings a lot of disadvantages with it that make it difficult to properly support big and small layouts at the same time since there are quite a few keys that move between the two top rows which is much easier to do when both are R1
Post by: punksinatra on Thu, 03 August 2017, 08:59:50
1-2-3-3-3-4 :(
That sculpt brings a lot of disadvantages with it that make it difficult to properly support big and small layouts at the same time since there are quite a few keys that move between the two top rows which is much easier to do when both are R1
Yeah understood unfortunately I like typing in that profile :(
Post by: hhkbp2 on Wed, 16 August 2017, 08:09:43
Post by: SeedyOne on Thu, 17 August 2017, 20:41:22
1-2-3-3-3-4 :(
That sculpt brings a lot of disadvantages with it that make it difficult to properly support big and small layouts at the same time since there are quite a few keys that move between the two top rows which is much easier to do when both are R1
Exactly the issue I'm running into with the first CD set I have. As great as it is and as much as I'm a fan of "sticking to the original" for things when possible, I'd have to agree that a more modern sculpt would be preferred.
Post by: limitz on Wed, 30 August 2017, 11:32:58
Really not interested in MaxKeys, would prefer to wait for SP.
Post by: robotsokk on Wed, 30 August 2017, 22:02:48
Is MD still planning on running this? Is there any movement at all on this buy?
Really not interested in MaxKeys, would prefer to wait for SP.
I don't believe there's news to share yet:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/talk/1796942?mode=guest_open
Post by: hhkbp2 on Thu, 31 August 2017, 06:10:29
Is MD still planning on running this? Is there any movement at all on this buy?
Really not interested in MaxKeys, would prefer to wait for SP.
I don't believe there's news to share yet:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/talk/1796942?mode=guest_open
It seems the MaxKeys version of SA Calm Depths will be run soon. It will draw away some of the fans of the Calm Depths theme. Anyone who want the SP version with various kits needs to hold tight and wait longer.
Post by: efeng on Sun, 03 September 2017, 20:35:36
Post by: hhkbp2 on Mon, 04 September 2017, 04:31:20
Any evidence of MaxKeys running it? (First time on GH, I really like this set. :) )
Check this out https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90792.0
Post by: Miotch92 on Sat, 09 September 2017, 02:42:46
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Post by: YH YOON on Tue, 31 October 2017, 03:10:57
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 27 November 2017, 21:30:58
Can't wait for the SA Calm Depths R2..
Post by: ninjacore on Wed, 29 November 2017, 21:28:59
Will this still take place?+1 @iArson proxied a few of these sets recently, but I didn’t make the list. I’d be interested in this.
Can't wait for the SA Calm Depths R2..
Post by: iArson on Wed, 29 November 2017, 23:39:03
Will this still take place?+1 @iArson proxied a few of these sets recently, but I didn’t make the list. I’d be interested in this.
Can't wait for the SA Calm Depths R2..
Yeah we sold 20 of them for 250 shipped. Will try to get more
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 01 December 2017, 13:35:04
Will this still take place?+1 @iArson proxied a few of these sets recently, but I didn’t make the list. I’d be interested in this.
Can't wait for the SA Calm Depths R2..
Yeah we sold 20 of them for 250 shipped. Will try to get more
Hey there,
I feel bad for letting go of my "spot" after winning a raffle. lol
I need the keycaps to be compatible with HHKB...:(
Post by: hhkbp2 on Sun, 17 December 2017, 03:34:00
Post by: schmoktopus on Sun, 17 December 2017, 06:40:32
Post by: ejewell89 on Sun, 24 December 2017, 09:49:40
We need another SP SA set, no matter how long the production queue is. I am fed up with seeing Maxkey SA and sets popping up weekly.
with ****ty compatibilities, at that.
Post by: bcbishop on Fri, 26 January 2018, 09:33:45
Post by: otanishock on Mon, 03 September 2018, 13:29:46
Post by: distracteddev on Mon, 03 September 2018, 16:31:44
Post by: mik1 on Tue, 23 October 2018, 22:56:07
(Wider NorDe conversation here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97874 .)
Post by: mimalik on Wed, 24 October 2018, 10:29:22
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 24 October 2018, 12:52:55