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geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: Faux on Sat, 28 October 2017, 00:09:24
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Hi Everyone,
Thank you for your interest. We’ve gotten in touch with the manufacturer and have finalized our order. There will be no MOQ since we will be covering any costs necessary to make sure this GB goes through. We will be offering the lubricant in quantities of 1.8ml units, but there will be no limit on orders. If you are a vendor and wants to stock RO-59, please contact us separately at goosekeyboards@gmail.com and mention RO-59 in the subject.
If you are unfamiliar with RO-59, it is a rare lubricant. While popular in Korea, it is rarely seen in the Western world. We spoke to the manufacturers to obtain the best lube specifically for keyboards.
Photo (Yeah this probably isn't the best photo, but it's the only one we have from the manufacturer):
(http://[attachimg=1])
Pricing:
Each vial of 1.8 ml lube will cost 5 dollars + Shipping
If you are CONUS, shipping will cost 3 dollars.
If you are international, shipping will cost 15 dollars.
If you are in the EU, shipping is 9 dollars through our proxy! (Big thanks to mechboards.co.uk)
If you are in Canada, shipping is 13 dollars. This is the best USPS could do for us, factoring in shipping costs.
Timeline:
GB opens--10/28/2017
GB Closes--11/30/2017
Invoices Start--12/1/2017
Payment Deadline--12/14/2017
Payment to Manufacturer--12/14/2017
Lube Arrives--12/17/2017
Lube Goes out--12/20/17 (just in time for Christmas, although this really depends on how many orders we get)
GB ORDER FORM: https://goo.gl/forms/2wuFjuTvfRvS63xt2
If you have any specific questions, please email us at: Support@goosekbd.com
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UPDATE 12/21/17: Lube has arrived later than expected. We will take photos and begin on packaging the lube, but shipping it out will be delayed until it is all packed.
1.26.17: Quick photos: https://imgur.com/a/ty5ic . Lube is packaged and we will work on shipping out now. Sorry for the delays!
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Approval bump :thumb:
As always, CAVEAT EMPTOR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0).
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Approval bump :thumb:
As always, CAVEAT EMPTOR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0).
It closed 5 days ago :-\
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Approval bump :thumb:
As always, CAVEAT EMPTOR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0).
It closed 5 days ago :-\
lmao
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So is this actually closed or was the timeline shifted due to waiting on approval?
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So is this actually closed or was the timeline shifted due to waiting on approval?
ran on /r/mechmarket and is done, i think
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So is this actually closed or was the timeline shifted due to waiting on approval?
ran on /r/mechmarket and is done, i think
Sucks!
I thought the whole purpose of mentioning it on here was because there was going to be a GB on here?
I don't use reddit.
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So is this actually closed or was the timeline shifted due to waiting on approval?
ran on /r/mechmarket and is done, i think
Sucks!
I thought the whole purpose of mentioning it on here was because there was going to be a GB on here?
I don't use reddit.
yes but clearly mods didn't approve it in time
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So is this actually closed or was the timeline shifted due to waiting on approval?
ran on /r/mechmarket and is done, i think
Sucks!
I thought the whole purpose of mentioning it on here was because there was going to be a GB on here?
I don't use reddit.
It was submitted at the same time, but I guess they didn't expect approval to take 3 and a half weeks either.
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Greets all!
We did not expect this to be approved so late, however, it could be a good thing. We've extended the deadline since we have been working on getting an EU proxy for EU buyers. I will update the original post to reflect the changes, however, the deadline is now extended since this post was approved late.
-Goose Keyboards.
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Greets all!
We did not expect this to be approved so late, however, it could be a good thing. We've extended the deadline since we have been working on getting an EU proxy for EU buyers. I will update the original post to reflect the changes, however, the deadline is now extended since this post was approved late.
-Goose Keyboards.
Sweet!
I'll be ordering tonight when I get home.
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Has anyone used this kind of lube on Silent switches? Is it safe?
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Has anyone used this kind of lube on Silent switches? Is it safe?
Although we haven't tested this lube on silent switches, it should be safe on any switch that you can already lube with Krytox.
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Has anyone used this kind of lube on Silent switches? Is it safe?
Although we haven't tested this lube on silent switches, it should be safe on any switch that you can already lube with Krytox.
Perfect. I'll look forward for the EU proxy then. Thanks.
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Is it still possible to buy this?
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Is it still possible to buy this?
Yes, you can fill out the google forms on the original post at the top.
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Greets all!
We did not expect this to be approved so late, however, it could be a good thing. We've extended the deadline since we have been working on getting an EU proxy for EU buyers. I will update the original post to reflect the changes, however, the deadline is now extended since this post was approved late.
-Goose Keyboards.
Will it be coming from the factory pre-packaged in the two sizes offered?
Curious if there will be any manufacturer identification to show that said lube actually came from ro59inc?
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Greets all!
We did not expect this to be approved so late, however, it could be a good thing. We've extended the deadline since we have been working on getting an EU proxy for EU buyers. I will update the original post to reflect the changes, however, the deadline is now extended since this post was approved late.
-Goose Keyboards.
Will it be coming from the factory pre-packaged in the two sizes offered?
Curious if there will be any manufacturer identification to show that said lube actually came from ro59inc?
The factory only sells in 5 gallon or 55 gallon sizes. We will be separating it and selling it, however, we can upload photos of the 5 gallon drum when we receive it.
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Approval bump :thumb:
As always, CAVEAT EMPTOR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0).
It closed 5 days ago :-\
Can’t win em all.
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Hi there,
Any updates on shipping costs for Canadians?
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Is there a way to check orders? I forgot if I ordered this or not on /r/mechmarket :|
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Is there a way to check orders? I forgot if I ordered this or not on /r/mechmarket :|
Same here
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Is there a way to check orders? I forgot if I ordered this or not on /r/mechmarket :|
Same here
You can send a quick email to support@goosekbd.com with your username and I can check for you.
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Hi there,
Any updates on shipping costs for Canadians?
I'll double check, however, I believe it is around 12-13 dollars. Sadly it isn't much cheaper, but that was the best USPS could do for us.
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Any updates on the eu proxy? Would definitely get it if there is a proxy.
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Any updates on the eu proxy? Would definitely get it if there is a proxy.
An EU proxy is near confirmed. We're working out some small details now.
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How much shiping in Italia ?
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How much shiping in Italia ?
If it's through us, then it would be standard international shipping. If it's through the EU proxy, the shipping cost should be much lower.
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You have proxy EU?
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Since we haven't heard anything about the EU proxy yet.
Will the GB be extended if there is one? Will placed orders be shifted to the proxy if we fill the form out now? Will we be able to cancel the order in case the proxy doesn't happen?
The GB is supposed to end soon and I would really like to get in on it, but only if the EU proxy is happening.
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Since we haven't heard anything about the EU proxy yet.
Will the GB be extended if there is one? Will placed orders be shifted to the proxy if we fill the form out now? Will we be able to cancel the order in case the proxy doesn't happen?
The GB is supposed to end soon and I would really like to get in on it, but only if the EU proxy is happening.
We do have an EU proxy. We are working with Mechboards.co.uk to proxy orders. Orders filled out on the form, with an address within the EU, will be sent through the proxy. You can cancel an order if the proxy doesn't go through by sending an email to our support email.
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have you started invoicing for this yet? It totally slipped my mind but I think i signed up on reddit maybe?
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have you started invoicing for this yet? It totally slipped my mind but I think i signed up on reddit maybe?
Invoices should go out Friday.
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have you started invoicing for this yet? It totally slipped my mind but I think i signed up on reddit maybe?
We plan to start invoicing on Friday and finish by Saturday at the latest.
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What would the shelf life of these lube vials be?
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What would the shelf life of these lube vials be?
The shelf life is 1 year
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What would the shelf life of these lube vials be?
The shelf life is 1 year
Thanks, is this ending at midnight PST?
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What would the shelf life of these lube vials be?
The shelf life is 1 year
Damn! Really? I figured/hoped it would last longer than that.
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What would the shelf life of these lube vials be?
The shelf life is 1 year
Thanks, is this ending at midnight PST?
Correct.
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What would the shelf life of these lube vials be?
The shelf life is 1 year
Damn! Really? I figured/hoped it would last longer than that.
I'm sure that it does last longer, but that was the quote from the manufacturer. They are probably conservative with their numbers to avoid liability.
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I'm in! Lookin' forward to some silky smooth switches in the future.
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We are no longer accepting orders. Look for invoices within the next day or two. If you do not receive an invoice by the end of this weekend, please send us a support email including your username. Thank you all!
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*Update* Invoices will go out a little later since we are finalizing the set-up for our paypal so that none of the money gets held up and delayed.
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Have invoices been sent out yet?
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Did the price go up? I ordered 3x, and my invoice says $18 + $3 shipping but it should be $15 + $3 shipping.
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Did the price go up? I ordered 3x, and my invoice says $18 + $3 shipping but it should be $15 + $3 shipping.
Hmm send us an email and I can look into this later
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I've looked into the invoices, and some users were accidentally charged double for shipping. If you receive another invoice, please pay the new one. If you have already paid the higher one, send us an email at supposed@goosekbd.com and we will refund you the difference. We apologize for the issues.
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I've looked into the invoices, and some users were accidentally charged double for shipping. If you receive another invoice, please pay the new one. If you have already paid the higher one, send us an email at supposed@goosekbd.com and we will refund you the difference. We apologize for the issues.
Thanks for the quick reply!
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I've looked into the invoices, and some users were accidentally charged double for shipping. If you receive another invoice, please pay the new one. If you have already paid the higher one, send us an email at supposed@goosekbd.com and we will refund you the difference. We apologize for the issues.
I got an invoice (#134) but it was canceled and I didn't receive a new one. Looking forward to this lube!
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same here...
I got an invoice (132) but then it was cancelled. I'll wait for a new one!
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Got invoice, paid! Thanks. Looking forward to trying this stuff out.
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I've looked into the invoices, and some users were accidentally charged double for shipping. If you receive another invoice, please pay the new one. If you have already paid the higher one, send us an email at supposed@goosekbd.com and we will refund you the difference. We apologize for the issues.
Thanks for the quick reply!
Corrected invoices should have been sent out.
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Corrected invoices should have been sent out.
Received. Thanks!
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Paid! Will be using this on my next build. Totally forgot that I signed up for this.
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I've looked into the invoices, and some users were accidentally charged double for shipping. If you receive another invoice, please pay the new one. If you have already paid the higher one, send us an email at supposed@goosekbd.com and we will refund you the difference. We apologize for the issues.
looks like auto correct fudged the email address. Should be support@goosekbd.com in case anyone didn't already figure that out :)) :thumb:
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paid! woohoooo....
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I've looked into the invoices, and some users were accidentally charged double for shipping. If you receive another invoice, please pay the new one. If you have already paid the higher one, send us an email at supposed@goosekbd.com and we will refund you the difference. We apologize for the issues.
looks like auto correct fudged the email address. Should be support@goosekbd.com in case anyone didn't already figure that out :)) :thumb:
Nice catch!
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Invoice paid :thumb:
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Invoice paid
Looking forward to lube my switches!
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Invoice paid!
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Damn, I missed this. Will mechboards.co.uk sell some upfront?
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Damn, I missed this. Will mechboards.co.uk sell some upfront?
Yes, they will be stocking a limited quantity
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Interested in this too.
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Damn, missed this. Will be keeping eyes on mechboards.co.uk
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Got an update:
UPDATE 12/21/17: Lube as arrived later than expected. We will take photos and begin on packaging the lube, but shipping it out will be delayed until it is all packed.
We apologize for the delays.
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Thanks for the update.
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Thanks for the update! Please post some pictures of the packing process - looking forward to getting slippery!
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Greets all!
We did not expect this to be approved so late, however, it could be a good thing. We've extended the deadline since we have been working on getting an EU proxy for EU buyers. I will update the original post to reflect the changes, however, the deadline is now extended since this post was approved late.
-Goose Keyboards.
Will it be coming from the factory pre-packaged in the two sizes offered?
Curious if there will be any manufacturer identification to show that said lube actually came from ro59inc?
The factory only sells in 5 gallon or 55 gallon sizes. We will be separating it and selling it, however, we can upload photos of the 5 gallon drum when we receive it.
Would love to see some pictures of what the 5 gallon drum label looks like, as well as any packaging pictures you can do :thumb:
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Delayed but small update: https://imgur.com/a/6xrQi
We'll work on shipping soon.
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Delayed but small update: https://imgur.com/a/6xrQi
We'll work on shipping soon.
Sweet! Thanks for the pics :thumb:
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Any news?
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any news?
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Where my lube at?
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We'll have an update in the next 2 days when the rest of our supplies come in.
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Missed out on this group buy because I never thought I would spend loads of time lubing switches. Definitely regret that decision. Any chance of you having extras for purchase?
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Missed out on this group buy because I never thought I would spend loads of time lubing switches. Definitely regret that decision. Any chance of you having extras for purchase?
Yes, we'll have extras for purchase. Send an email to support@goosekbd.com for more information.
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Any update?
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Update posted.
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Update posted.
Thanks for the update!!
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Update posted.
Can't wait
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So now that we are getting closer, I wanted to ask what kind of brush is recommended to lube switch stems.
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So now that we are getting closer, I wanted to ask what kind of brush is recommended to lube switch stems.
Go to a craft store. Buy one of the smallest water color brushes they have. Buy a nicer one that doesn't fall apart. It's annoying picking the bristles off the switch.
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I have not had good luck with those little plastic vials.
Everyone I've ever gotten something in ended up leaking eventually.
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Any updates on the shipping? I've got a bunch of switches just begging for that sweet lube.
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Also looking for an update
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Almost forgot about this! Looking forward to trying RO-59.
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Ahh sorry. I don't have an update. We're still working on shipping stuff out, but it's been slow because school. Hopefully we can get it shipped out soon. Also, important note. You HAVE to mix the lube with water. The ratio is really up to you, but if you don't mix it, you're not going to get that great results.
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Ahh sorry. I don't have an update. We're still working on shipping stuff out, but it's been slow because school. Hopefully we can get it shipped out soon. Also, important note. You HAVE to mix the lube with water. The ratio is really up to you, but if you don't mix it, you're not going to get that great results.
Are we going to get shipping notifications, or will stuff just start showing up?
Mix with water? Is there some kinda documentation anywhere to show what the best mixture is?
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Ahh sorry. I don't have an update. We're still working on shipping stuff out, but it's been slow because school. Hopefully we can get it shipped out soon. Also, important note. You HAVE to mix the lube with water. The ratio is really up to you, but if you don't mix it, you're not going to get that great results.
Are we going to get shipping notifications, or will stuff just start showing up?
Mix with water? Is there some kinda documentation anywhere to show what the best mixture is?
We'll look into organizing tracking numbers for everyone, but I don't want to speculate too much into the future.
For mixing, start of with equal parts water and lube and then play with ratios. That's the easiest way.
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Looking forward to this getting shipped soon! gonna put together some zilents.
Question: can you lube springs with this a well?
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I read about how RO-59 needs to be cured overnight. Does that mean we'll need to lube the switches and then let them sit out for the lube to dry before putting the switches back together?
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I read about how RO-59 needs to be cured overnight. Does that mean we'll need to lube the switches and then let them sit out for the lube to dry before putting the switches back together?
you don't 'have to' but its highly recommended. Either that or take a hairdryer to them for 1/2 an hour.
I believe they use the RO-59tm88G (http://www.ro59inc.com/products.html) formula, but I could be wrong.
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Ahh sorry. I don't have an update. We're still working on shipping stuff out, but it's been slow because school. Hopefully we can get it shipped out soon. Also, important note. You HAVE to mix the lube with water. The ratio is really up to you, but if you don't mix it, you're not going to get that great results.
Are we going to get shipping notifications, or will stuff just start showing up?
Mix with water? Is there some kinda documentation anywhere to show what the best mixture is?
We'll look into organizing tracking numbers for everyone, but I don't want to speculate too much into the future.
For mixing, start of with equal parts water and lube and then play with ratios. That's the easiest way.
So is mixing the water something that the manufacturer recommends, or is it something that you discovered works best?
It must be pretty thick if your suggesting to dilute it with water?
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Just got notification of my R9 Blue Zilent switches, so I guess I am waiting on this now. This was supposed to happen before Christmas.
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The Lube:Water ratio for this is 1:1
Also, to apply RO-59tmKT:
1. Clean target surface
2. Brush on RO-59 so surface is covered, but not so much that puddles are created
3. Air dry until liquid evaporates. Paperwork says 30 minutes, but can take longer depending on the humidity
4. At this point, there are two options:
a. Heat at 65C for 3 minutes (for example, using a hairdryer)
b. Air dry for another 1-2x the time it took for the liquid to evaporate
NOTE: RO-59 should be stored out of direct sunlight, and should be shaken once a week to prevent sedimentation. Unapplied lube expires 1 year from manufacture.
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Kind of feeling like this was a mistake of a GB
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2 months later, still hasn't shipped.
What's going on?
Feel like I shouldn't have joined this GB, there's someone selling 5mL vials of RO-59 for $5+shipping on discord now.
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2 months later, still hasn't shipped.
What's going on?
Feel like I shouldn't have joined this GB, there's someone selling 5mL vials of RO-59 for $5+shipping on discord now.
and the discord lube is premixed.
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So according to the manufacturer specs. If we got it in our hands today it would now have about 10 months shelf life left?
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Goose Keyboards
Jan 23
to me
Kinda, we packed everyone except for 1 person. We just need to place our return address on packages and then work on getting them shipped out. I'm not sure when we'll have everything out at this point as our schedules are staring to pick up with school work.
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2 months later, still hasn't shipped.
What's going on?
Feel like I shouldn't have joined this GB, there's someone selling 5mL vials of RO-59 for $5+shipping on discord now.
I can't seem to find the right discord. Any help?
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Packages are getting picked up later today, plan to be shipped tomorrow. Waiting on getting back from the EU proxy so those will go out when we get the confirmation.
We offer ours unmixed since it offers you more freedom on what ratio you want to work with. Also, you get more lube. If you make a 1:1 mixture, 5ml of lube becomes 10. We apologize for the unacceptable delays. This should have been shipped out at the end of December as planned. Hopefully we can wrap everything up cleanly and quickly.
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Packages are getting picked up later today, plan to be shipped tomorrow. Waiting on getting back from the EU proxy so those will go out when we get the confirmation.
We offer ours unmixed since it offers you more freedom on what ratio you want to work with. Also, you get more lube. If you make a 1:1 mixture, 5ml of lube becomes 10. We apologize for the unacceptable delays. This should have been shipped out at the end of December as planned. Hopefully we can wrap everything up cleanly and quickly.
thanks for the update! looking forward to making some zilents with this. Do you have a suggested ratio for linears?
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So according to the manufacturer specs. If we got it in our hands today it would now have about 10 months shelf life left?
10 months or less. We don’t know exactly when it was produced.
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While moving the packages for shipping, we discovered some packages that we missing vials. We're now going through all packages and making sure that they have the correct amount of vials. In the mean time, customs forms for international packages have been completed.
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Packages are getting picked up later today, plan to be shipped tomorrow. Waiting on getting back from the EU proxy so those will go out when we get the confirmation.
We offer ours unmixed since it offers you more freedom on what ratio you want to work with. Also, you get more lube. If you make a 1:1 mixture, 5ml of lube becomes 10. We apologize for the unacceptable delays. This should have been shipped out at the end of December as planned. Hopefully we can wrap everything up cleanly and quickly.
thanks for the update! looking forward to making some zilents with this. Do you have a suggested ratio for linears?
We suggest a 1:1 ratio of lube to water and then working from there, changing the ratio until you get what you desire. Be sure to let it cure.
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Be sure to let it cure.
For how long?
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Have a question... What does it mean when the lubricant expire? Since it's premixed and has no water elements what's there to expire? I'm not aware of any active additives in silicone based greases.
Generally for most expiry of lubricants, it's for purposes of 'intended' performance...
Also a shelf life of 1year is really fast? I know preserved foods to last longer than that! Lol
If someone could shed some light or check with the manufacturer, that'd be fantastic. More importantly, how will the lubricant perform after 1 year? Does it harden up and become unusable? Or does it just reduces the efficiency of reducing friction?
So many questions on expiry of a non perishable product!
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Be sure to let it cure.
For how long?
For a couple of hours out in the air.
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Be sure to let it cure.
For how long?
For a couple of hours out in the air.
Will do. Thanks.
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I sent an email asking about picking up some extras but got no response. How do I get in on this sweet RO-59 buy?
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There will be extras at Goose Keyboards at some point.
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im confused as well about the shelf life. Will our lubed switches not "work" anymore after a year? or do we need to relube every year?
Thanks!
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im confused as well about the shelf life. Will our lubed switches not "work" anymore after a year? or do we need to relube every year?
Thanks!
the lube will still work as far as i am aware
it's just that the raw lube doesn't keep for more than a year
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im confused as well about the shelf life. Will our lubed switches not "work" anymore after a year? or do we need to relube every year?
Thanks!
the lube will still work as far as i am aware
it's just that the raw lube doesn't keep for more than a year
cool thats what i figured. thanks!
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While moving the packages for shipping, we discovered some packages that we missing vials. We're now going through all packages and making sure that they have the correct amount of vials. In the mean time, customs forms for international packages have been completed.
Any new info on when these will be shipping out?
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While moving the packages for shipping, we discovered some packages that we missing vials. We're now going through all packages and making sure that they have the correct amount of vials. In the mean time, customs forms for international packages have been completed.
Any new info on when these will be shipping out?
I am also curious. This lube is the last thing I need for my build, I'm getting a bit antsy after 2 months of delays...
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Last update was 10 days ago.
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Last update was 10 days ago.
An update and some movement on the shipping would be appreciated.
Please keep in mind that you are sitting on a product with a limited shelf life...
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Shipment to the EU proxy went out today. Expect to receive those packages soon when they arrive in the UK.
CONUS packages and all other int packages should be going out in the next couple of days
Due to logistics, it will be most likely too difficult to provide shipping tracking (wrote this while tired rip) to each order.
Again, we apologize for the delays and hope that the packages get to everyone asap.
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Have all the international orders shipped out now ? I want to know if there is a tracking number available for my order to India.
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CONUS packages and all other int packages should be going out in the next couple of days
Will you be updating this thread when shipping is complete?
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CONUS packages and all other int packages should be going out in the next couple of days
Will you be updating this thread when shipping is complete?
+1
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CONUS packages and all other int packages should be going out in the next couple of days
Will you be updating this thread when shipping is complete?
+1
Yes, I will be updating this immediately after shipping is complete. Should be soon.
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SoonTM
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All CONUS packages have been shipped out today. We are working on a way to get tracking numbers to everyone, although you might receive the package before we figure out tracking numbers. We'll update again when the remaining international packages are shipped.
As always, if you have any issues with your order (maybe you didn't get the right amount of tubes. We tried our hardest to make sure this doesn't happen, however, there's always a chance.) feel free to contact us at support@goosekbd.com and we'll try to get back to you.
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UT checking in. I was starting to lose faith since I joined Pearl after this and got the Pearl first. I checked the mail today and was pleasantly surprised to see the lube. While delays are never fun, I appreciate you running the GB. Thanks!
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Received my order as well. Looks like I'll be doing some of my own testing tonight.
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Just received my lube, looks like it is already mixed with some water. Will do some testing soon!
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Received mine yesterday.
It does look very "liquidy" already.
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Any news on the EU proxy orders?
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Anyone else get a smaller size than they paid for? Mine looks mixed as well. I thought we were getting it unmixed?
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I got my 3 vials of really watery milk looking stuff... I cant imagine this requires more water? I'm a little confused i guess. :confused:
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I cant imagine this requires more water? I'm a little confused i guess. :confused:
+1
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I got my 3 vials of really watery milk looking stuff... I cant imagine this requires more water? I'm a little confused i guess. :confused:
How to apply RO-59tmKT the proper way
1. Clean target surface
2. Brush on RO-59 so surface is covered, but not so much that puddles are created
3. Air dry until liquid evaporates. Paperwork says 30 minutes, but can take ages depending on the humidity
4. At this point, there are two options:
a. Heat at 65C for 3 minutes. This can be done with things such as a hairdryer
b. Air dry for another 1-2x the time it took for the liquid to evaporate.
RO-59 should be stored out of direct sunlight, and should be shaken once a week to prevent sedimentation. Unapplied lube expires 1 year from manufacturing.
**These instructions came from a friend on discord, not myself :) **
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I got my 3 vials of really watery milk looking stuff... I cant imagine this requires more water? I'm a little confused i guess. :confused:
How to apply RO-59tmKT the proper way
1. Clean target surface
2. Brush on RO-59 so surface is covered, but not so much that puddles are created
3. Air dry until liquid evaporates. Paperwork says 30 minutes, but can take ages depending on the humidity
4. At this point, there are two options:
a. Heat at 65C for 3 minutes. This can be done with things such as a hairdryer
b. Air dry for another 1-2x the time it took for the liquid to evaporate.
RO-59 should be stored out of direct sunlight, and should be shaken once a week to prevent sedimentation. Unapplied lube expires 1 year from manufacturing.
**These instructions came from a friend on discord, not myself :) **
Thanks for the instructions, but what I'm trying to figure out is if we really need to add extra water? It's already so "liquidy".
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I got my 3 vials of really watery milk looking stuff... I cant imagine this requires more water? I'm a little confused i guess. :confused:
How to apply RO-59tmKT the proper way
1. Clean target surface
2. Brush on RO-59 so surface is covered, but not so much that puddles are created
3. Air dry until liquid evaporates. Paperwork says 30 minutes, but can take ages depending on the humidity
4. At this point, there are two options:
a. Heat at 65C for 3 minutes. This can be done with things such as a hairdryer
b. Air dry for another 1-2x the time it took for the liquid to evaporate.
RO-59 should be stored out of direct sunlight, and should be shaken once a week to prevent sedimentation. Unapplied lube expires 1 year from manufacturing.
**These instructions came from a friend on discord, not myself :) **
Thanks for the instructions, but what I'm trying to figure out is if we really need to add extra water? It's already so "liquidy".
I'm assuming the RO-59 in this GB isn't pre-mixed, so you should mix water in it.
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I paid for the largest option and received the smallest.
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try putting water on a switch stem... you'll see that it doesnt coat anything, it just pools up in the creases and a small spot on the face of the plastic. This isnt going to work. I have applied and reapplied a few times on a few switches but I have very little confidence this is going to do anything.
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try putting water on a switch stem... you'll see that it doesnt coat anything, it just pools up in the creases and a small spot on the face of the plastic. This isnt going to work. I have applied and reapplied a few times on a few switches but I have very little confidence this is going to do anything.
I had a similar issue during my testing with a 50/50 water and lube mix. It doesn't really feel like the lube made a difference with the switch. I want to say using a pure lube solution had better results with both linear and tactile switches but my experiment was mostly inconclusive. Perhaps we're just not applying the lube properly. I used the same watercolor brush I used for thick and thin krytox mixes but it didn't work out that well, like you said.
Would anyone with proper RO-59 application experience like to chime in :)
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I got my 3 vials of really watery milk looking stuff... I cant imagine this requires more water? I'm a little confused i guess. :confused:
How to apply RO-59tmKT the proper way
1. Clean target surface
2. Brush on RO-59 so surface is covered, but not so much that puddles are created
3. Air dry until liquid evaporates. Paperwork says 30 minutes, but can take ages depending on the humidity
4. At this point, there are two options:
a. Heat at 65C for 3 minutes. This can be done with things such as a hairdryer
b. Air dry for another 1-2x the time it took for the liquid to evaporate.
RO-59 should be stored out of direct sunlight, and should be shaken once a week to prevent sedimentation. Unapplied lube expires 1 year from manufacturing.
**These instructions came from a friend on discord, not myself :) **
applying several coats will give you better results with this type of lube
and I think this stuff is pre-mixed... it seems much thinner than normal
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I got my 3 vials of really watery milk looking stuff... I cant imagine this requires more water? I'm a little confused i guess. :confused:
How to apply RO-59tmKT the proper way
1. Clean target surface
2. Brush on RO-59 so surface is covered, but not so much that puddles are created
3. Air dry until liquid evaporates. Paperwork says 30 minutes, but can take ages depending on the humidity
4. At this point, there are two options:
a. Heat at 65C for 3 minutes. This can be done with things such as a hairdryer
b. Air dry for another 1-2x the time it took for the liquid to evaporate.
RO-59 should be stored out of direct sunlight, and should be shaken once a week to prevent sedimentation. Unapplied lube expires 1 year from manufacturing.
**These instructions came from a friend on discord, not myself :) **
applying several coats will give you better results with this type of lube
and I think this stuff is pre-mixed... it seems much thinner than normal
I can experiment with applying several coats today. And it would be a problem if this is premixed since OP clearly stated it will not be. Then again I can't confirm because I've never used this kind of lube before.
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yah it might not be premixed, I don't want to misinform anyone... It just looks realllllly thin :/
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The lube itself is not premixed. We haven't added anything to it. That's just how it naturally is. We still found that adding water and multiple coats helped it.
As for the sizes, we originally ordered two different size containers for the lube. However, the smaller containers started leaking, so we switched everyone over to the large size. The difference is now that if you ordered a large size, your vial was filled completely. If you ordered smaller quantities, your vial was filled to represent how much you ordered. The quantity of lube, over the size of the container, is a more accurate way to check that you got your amount.
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The lube itself is not premixed. We haven't added anything to it. That's just how it naturally is. We still found that adding water and multiple coats helped it.
As for the sizes, we originally ordered two different size containers for the lube. However, the smaller containers started leaking, so we switched everyone over to the large size. The difference is now that if you ordered a large size, your vial was filled completely. If you ordered smaller quantities, your vial was filled to represent how much you ordered. The quantity of lube, over the size of the container, is a more accurate way to check that you got your amount.
thanks for clarifying.
I'll try 1:1 ratio on my switches tonight
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All CONUS packages have been shipped out today. We are working on a way to get tracking numbers to everyone, although you might receive the package before we figure out tracking numbers. We'll update again when the remaining international packages are shipped.
As always, if you have any issues with your order (maybe you didn't get the right amount of tubes. We tried our hardest to make sure this doesn't happen, however, there's always a chance.) feel free to contact us at support@goosekbd.com and we'll try to get back to you.
Any update on international shipping ? When can I expect a tracking number ?
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Any news on the EU proxy orders?
EDIT: Got in contact with mechboards, they should be shipping out today!
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Anyone else besides me in the US waiting for their order to arrive?
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I'm. But I no longer want to wait, especially since the product has a limited shelf life.
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I'm. But I no longer want to wait, especially since the product has a limited shelf life.
All US orders should have gone out. Could you please send us an email with your order so we can figure out what happened?
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I'm. But I no longer want to wait, especially since the product has a limited shelf life.
All US orders should have gone out. Could you please send us an email with your order so we can figure out what happened?
What the update on International orders shipped by you???
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Anyone tried to apply this with any good results yet?
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I'm. But I no longer want to wait, especially since the product has a limited shelf life.
All US orders should have gone out. Could you please send us an email with your order so we can figure out what happened?
I too have yet to receive mine, I'm in NorCal
Anyone receive tracking info?
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Anyone tried to apply this with any good results yet?
Nope. I'm thinking i might put it in a spray bottle (like a perfume atomizer) and see if i can get it to evenly coat the stem... if not i'll just give my vials away to those who havent gotten theirs yet.
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Anyone tried to apply this with any good results yet?
Nope. I'm thinking i might put it in a spray bottle (like a perfume atomizer) and see if i can get it to evenly coat the stem... if not i'll just give my vials away to those who havent gotten theirs yet.
Let us know how that works out. I'm going to do some trial and error test soon myself.
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Hi All,
Int shipments went out a couple days ago. You should be receiving them soon. If you do not receive a package/are living in CONUS and did not get one, please let us know. There was probably an error pulling up your order. We'll get it sorted out.
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Hi All,
Int shipments went out a couple days ago. You should be receiving them soon. If you do not receive a package/are living in CONUS and did not get one, please let us know. There was probably an error pulling up your order. We'll get it sorted out.
Hey Faux, I live in California and still have not received mine. How should I get in touch with you?
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Hi All,
Int shipments went out a couple days ago. You should be receiving them soon. If you do not receive a package/are living in CONUS and did not get one, please let us know. There was probably an error pulling up your order. We'll get it sorted out.
Hey Faux, I live in California and still have not received mine. How should I get in touch with you?
Contact us at support@goosekbd.com and we'll look into it.
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Any progress on the European part of the buy?
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Hi All,
Int shipments went out a couple days ago. You should be receiving them soon. If you do not receive a package/are living in CONUS and did not get one, please let us know. There was probably an error pulling up your order. We'll get it sorted out.
Hey Faux, I live in California and still have not received mine. How should I get in touch with you?
Contact us at support@goosekbd.com and we'll look into it.
I sent an email to the email a few days ago with a query..... can you please look into it ?
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Received mine today. Thanks!
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Got extra lube for sale?
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any update on SEA orders? hmmm
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Any progress on the European part of the buy?
nope, we are still waiting :-[
KMK Labs.
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Im from EU and got mine. But the vials are garbage.
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Im from EU and got mine. But the vials are garbage.
and the contents of the vials? :rolleyes:
KMK Labs
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Im from EU and got mine. But the vials are garbage.
and the contents of the vials? :rolleyes:
KMK Labs
Havent tested yet haha, still waiting for my switches. Very runny/thin is all I can tell you.
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Im from EU and got mine. But the vials are garbage.
and the contents of the vials? :rolleyes:
KMK Labs
Havent tested yet haha, still waiting for my switches. Very runny/thin is all I can tell you.
ok, we'll see :thumb:
KMK Labs.
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RO-59 arrived today, I am in India
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oh yeah i got mine last week, thanks. if i'm not too lazy i'll make a video of how i use it
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Arrived yesterday, but when I saw it, I was very disappointed!
It look like water with white opaque color and thin. How about u guys who have already received it?
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Arrived yesterday, but when I saw it, I was very disappointed!
It look like water with white opaque color and thin. How about u guys who have already received it?
that's what it's supposed to be
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oh yeah i got mine last week, thanks. if i'm not too lazy i'll make a video of how i use it
Sifo, please do make a video, or take pictures.
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Arrived yesterday, but when I saw it, I was very disappointed!
It look like water with white opaque color and thin. How about u guys who have already received it?
that's what it's supposed to be
Do I need to use it as it is or do I dilute it further ? And would normal tap water work or I should use distilled water instead.
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oh yeah i got mine last week, thanks. if i'm not too lazy i'll make a video of how i use it
Sifo, please do make a video, or take pictures.
I second this.
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I haven't actually opened my package, I'm going off of the previous ro59 bottle I had. I never had to mix mine with water
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I lubed 200 vintage blacks with RO-59 but nothing magical happened. I had to re-lube them with 3204.
It would be great if someone can post a tutorial or video on how to use these lubes. Or RO-59 just doesn't work on MX switches?
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With the thinness, I was concerned that due to the extended period of time between delivery and when Goosekb got it caused it to settle. Looking forward to seeing someone else use it before I lube 400 switches unnecessarily.
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I think I’m slowly making some headway with figuring out how to use this stuff. I initially tried it straight (no water), because I forgot to add… which gave poor results. Then I tried the recommended 1:1 with water… still not good (actually seemed worse than no lube at the time). I added a few more coats with 1:1, letting each coat dry for at least 24 hours in between. One switch (Gat Clear) has about 6 coats now and I’m starting to see some great results. It has the smoothness of a heavy oil or grease, but without the drag… in other words, the switch doesn’t feel different, just smoother. A significant amount of scratchiness is eliminated with a few coats. I’ve tried EK Mechlube, Krytox 106, and Tribosys 3204. When enough RO-59 is on, it does feel superior to all of these others, hands down… at least in terms of a smooth and transparent feel. I also suspect that there is a breaking-in period after lubing… the switch seems to get smoother as you use it… but I could be wrong.
I don’t know if there is another way to go about this… it’s an insane amount of work and time to do at least a few coats per switch. Seems like special stuff, but for those who are willing to put in 500%+ for their board(s).
Anyone else have any insight and/or revelations?
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I think I’m slowly making some headway with figuring out how to use this stuff. I initially tried it straight (no water), because I forgot to add… which gave poor results. Then I tried the recommended 1:1 with water… still not good (actually seemed worse than no lube at the time). I added a few more coats with 1:1, letting each coat dry for at least 24 hours in between. One switch (Gat Clear) has about 6 coats now and I’m starting to see some great results. It has the smoothness of a heavy oil or grease, but without the drag… in other words, the switch doesn’t feel different, just smoother. A significant amount of scratchiness is eliminated with a few coats. I’ve tried EK Mechlube, Krytox 106, and Tribosys 3204. When enough RO-59 is on, it does feel superior to all of these others, hands down… at least in terms of a smooth and transparent feel. I also suspect that there is a breaking-in period after lubing… the switch seems to get smoother as you use it… but I could be wrong.
I don’t know if there is another way to go about this… it’s an insane amount of work and time to do at least a few coats per switch. Seems like special stuff, but for those who are willing to put in 500%+ for their board(s).
Anyone else have any insight and/or revelations?
Lubing a board worth of switches would take forever..
I tried single coat on a few linears and noticed very little effect. Maybe even less than with the Superlube oil :confused:
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I think I’m slowly making some headway with figuring out how to use this stuff. I initially tried it straight (no water), because I forgot to add… which gave poor results. Then I tried the recommended 1:1 with water… still not good (actually seemed worse than no lube at the time). I added a few more coats with 1:1, letting each coat dry for at least 24 hours in between. One switch (Gat Clear) has about 6 coats now and I’m starting to see some great results. It has the smoothness of a heavy oil or grease, but without the drag… in other words, the switch doesn’t feel different, just smoother. A significant amount of scratchiness is eliminated with a few coats. I’ve tried EK Mechlube, Krytox 106, and Tribosys 3204. When enough RO-59 is on, it does feel superior to all of these others, hands down… at least in terms of a smooth and transparent feel. I also suspect that there is a breaking-in period after lubing… the switch seems to get smoother as you use it… but I could be wrong.
I don’t know if there is another way to go about this… it’s an insane amount of work and time to do at least a few coats per switch. Seems like special stuff, but for those who are willing to put in 500%+ for their board(s).
Anyone else have any insight and/or revelations?
Did you notice any changes to the sound of the switch after all those coats?
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i ended up using it the way it came, no diluting...2 coats on modern mx black switches and they feel the same as without lube...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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How should the stem look like after lubing with RO-59? Is the coating evenly distributed or not?
The stems I lubed have some visible residues/spots after dried out. I applied too much I think?
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Did you notice any changes to the sound of the switch after all those coats?
Yes, the switch becomes a bit quieter overall, more muted. On a Cherry Brown, it noticed that it actually introduced some spring ring, but that was fixed by applying a tiny bit of oil or grease to the spring ends. So far, that seems to be the best scenario, multiple coats of RO-59 on the stem and housing, and something wet on the spring ends.
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How should the stem look like after lubing with RO-59? Is the coating evenly distributed or not?
The stems I lubed have some visible residues/spots after dried out. I applied too much I think?
I haven't tested this enough to say with certainty. I've also had the pooled residue… but then I would reassemble the switches after each coat and test for a bit. After a bunch of coats and testing, the final result has been a smooth even coating. It seems that applying a moderate amount dries better than trying to apply as much as possible per coat.
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Has anyone still not received their lube? I'm based in SEA and haven't received mine...
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Has anyone still not received their lube? I'm based in SEA and haven't received mine...
Yes, i did not receive it
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Has anyone still not received their lube? I'm based in SEA and haven't received mine...
Yes, i did not receive it
The wait is getting a little ridiculous though... Hmm
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SEA Here...
still waiting... :( :confused: :mad:
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Hey all - We've got some leftover that you can purchase here - https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/parts/ro-59-switch-lubricant-5ml/
Worldwide shipping is available
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SEA here. Anyone else haven't received their packages...?
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Is it too late to use this stuff? Looks like we're closing in on the 1 year shelf life.
How do I know if it's good or bad? What happens if you use expired RO-59?
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it's probably fine to use, but might be harder to apply and possibly less effective at lubricating. The water/ptfe/additives in lubes like these tend to separate over time, so it might be clumpy, inconsistent, watery, THICC or wtvr.
If it looks fine, I would still try it out on a few switches and see how it works.
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it's probably fine to use, but might be harder to apply and possibly less effective at lubricating. The water/ptfe/additives in lubes like these tend to separate over time, so it might be clumpy, inconsistent, watery, THICC or wtvr.
If it looks fine, I would still try it out on a few switches and see how it works.
I wasn't part of the original GB but I bought mine secondhand. It looks pretty much the same as it did when I received it.
I made sure to shake it up very well, then tried to brush on a thin coat. It only seemed to make the switches scratchier, even after curing overnight, then reassmbling the switch and pressing it several times. Not sure if my stuff is expired or I'm just doing it wrong :-\ . I see that there has been past discussion on how to apply this correctly, but I don't see anything conclusive.
I also tried, for kicks, putting a small amount in a plastic container and shaking it with a few stems, like the "tub lube" method that's becoming popular for MX sliders, in the hope that it would distribute a thinner, more even coat. But that produced worse results than the brush :blank:
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So what's the verdict on this? I got some from mechboards.uk many months ago, and I'm not sure if I want to use it after reading this thread.
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^ in all transparency, i have tried it 3 times on Salmon alps and Orange Alps and I have yet to get it to do anything for me other than drip off and whatever is left doesnt make a difference (to me).
Anyone who comes to Keycon, DC, or Raleigh meet up and wants some, i'll just give it to you. No reason for it to go to waste.
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^ in all transparency, i have tried it 3 times on Salmon alps and Orange Alps and I have yet to get it to do anything for me other than drip off and whatever is left doesnt make a difference (to me).
Anyone who comes to Keycon, DC, or Raleigh meet up and wants some, i'll just give it to you. No reason for it to go to waste.
Thought so, I don't feel a difference for my alps. Whats the alternative at this point? PTFE powder?
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Full transparency, I am by no means an expert on this; my testing and experimentation is limited.
I've been using this stuff on and off for over a year now and if used correctly, it's easily the most impressive lube I'm aware of, extremely smooth and more transparent than oil. The catch is that it can be an insane amount of work to get a switch to a happy place. For me, I've been diluting with distilled water 1:1, brushing on stem & housing points of contact (sometimes even the leaf), then allowing to dry completely (which can range from 1-5 days depending on weather conditions), then repeat. One coating usually makes very little difference, sometimes you can't notice any change at all. On average, I find you need to apply no less than 3 coats to make this stuff worth while. After 3 coats, it starts to shine. The most coats I've done so far is with a Gateron Clear, 6 coats… smoother than a Tealios lubed w/Krytox 106 at that point, no question. Obviously the spring weights are drastically different in this comparison, but the point is that the switch transformed from a "meh" switch into something impressive.
I usually lube spring ends with either oil or grease… RO-59 doesn't do too much in that area, at least in my testing.
So, my impression as of right now is that some people in the community are aware of how badass this stuff is, but it's also not surprising that it hasn't caught on. I recently put in somewhere between 25-30 hours actively lubing switches for a 108-key board… but the total process time took months because of all the waiting for drying, plus you need to keep track of how many coats each piece has, sheltering from dust over that kind of timeline, etc… it's not your typical lubing situation. This is an above-and-beyond kind of investment to do it right and it can take a toll on your enthusiasm for the hobby… unless you LOVE lubing like nothing else.
Maybe someone else has a quicker way of using this substance effectively? But like I said, it's unlike any other lube I've used, it's on another level… to me, it's kinda worth the insanity.
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Full transparency, I am by no means an expert on this; my testing and experimentation is limited.
I've been using this stuff on and off for over a year now and if used correctly, it's easily the most impressive lube I'm aware of, extremely smooth and more transparent than oil. The catch is that it can be an insane amount of work to get a switch to a happy place. For me, I've been diluting with distilled water 1:1, brushing on stem & housing points of contact (sometimes even the leaf), then allowing to dry completely (which can range from 1-5 days depending on weather conditions), then repeat. One coating usually makes very little difference, sometimes you can't notice any change at all. On average, I find you need to apply no less than 3 coats to make this stuff worth while. After 3 coats, it starts to shine. The most coats I've done so far is with a Gateron Clear, 6 coats… smoother than a Tealios lubed w/Krytox 106 at that point, no question. Obviously the spring weights are drastically different in this comparison, but the point is that the switch transformed from a "meh" switch into something impressive.
I usually lube spring ends with either oil or grease… RO-59 doesn't do too much in that area, at least in my testing.
So, my impression as of right now is that some people in the community are aware of how badass this stuff is, but it's also not surprising that it hasn't caught on. I recently put in somewhere between 25-30 hours actively lubing switches for a 108-key board… but the total process time took months because of all the waiting for drying, plus you need to keep track of how many coats each piece has, sheltering from dust over that kind of timeline, etc… it's not your typical lubing situation. This is an above-and-beyond kind of investment to do it right and it can take a toll on your enthusiasm for the hobby… unless you LOVE lubing like nothing else.
Maybe someone else has a quicker way of using this substance effectively? But like I said, it's unlike any other lube I've used, it's on another level… to me, it's kinda worth the insanity.
Interesting. I might give it another go for my next build.
As for last time I tried it, I used a hair dryer to make it dry up a bit quicker.
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Trying this for my Alps. I did a coat about 6 months ago, and have a jar of this that's been kept sealed and in the dark for about a year, so hopefully it still works. I'm doing a second coat tomorrow and will try for 3 and see if the poster above is onto something.
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also have some I bought like a year ago, not even sure what shelf life is like but its the same consistency as when I bought it so I'm going to risk :p
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The triple coat worked pretty well, I'm loving my blues.
What I did was take a space heater and a shoebox, took one end off so I have a little heat cave, and positioned it against the heater. As I lubed I threw the finished stems in there for 15 mins a batch - did this for all 3 coats. They're pretty darn smooth now.
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The triple coat worked pretty well, I'm loving my blues.
What I did was take a space heater and a shoebox, took one end off so I have a little heat cave, and positioned it against the heater. As I lubed I threw the finished stems in there for 15 mins a batch - did this for all 3 coats. They're pretty darn smooth now.
Im assuming Blue Alps? (probably is if its you lol)
I'm putting it in a plastic box + sun. doing similar right now haha.
Really looking forward to them now actually following your comment :thumb:
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The triple coat worked pretty well, I'm loving my blues.
What I did was take a space heater and a shoebox, took one end off so I have a little heat cave, and positioned it against the heater. As I lubed I threw the finished stems in there for 15 mins a batch - did this for all 3 coats. They're pretty darn smooth now.
Im assuming Blue Alps? (probably is if its you lol)
I'm putting it in a plastic box + sun. doing similar right now haha.
Really looking forward to them now actually following your comment :thumb:
I'm not sure if the plastic box + sun approach is the right way to go - I'm just basing it off the theory that this stuff needs heat to cure, so unless you can take that box up to 60-70 degrees C then you might not be doing much.
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The triple coat worked pretty well, I'm loving my blues.
What I did was take a space heater and a shoebox, took one end off so I have a little heat cave, and positioned it against the heater. As I lubed I threw the finished stems in there for 15 mins a batch - did this for all 3 coats. They're pretty darn smooth now.
Im assuming Blue Alps? (probably is if its you lol)
I'm putting it in a plastic box + sun. doing similar right now haha.
Really looking forward to them now actually following your comment :thumb:
I'm not sure if the plastic box + sun approach is the right way to go - I'm just basing it off the theory that this stuff needs heat to cure, so unless you can take that box up to 60-70 degrees C then you might not be doing much.
I actually managed to experiment a bit with different coatings, they all seem to cure regardless, sun or no sun. Unless I'm mistaken and I'm suppose to see something when else it cures? (I just see a transparent thin coat of grease and it feels as how lube usually feels)
Done building with my Blues now, not noticing any difference yet but I did see a thread that said it could take a while to break in :p kind happy about it either way tbh