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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1050 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 21:54:08 »
Hey hey!

As promissed i've mapped new icons along with skidata icon mods to see how well they play together. And i'd like to share it with you.

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In my opinion the lines need to be slightly thicker. I'll adjust it. But there it is. On Enter you can see ther i took the scale (the thin rectangle). Ignore that dust on the sides i was in hury :)
would you consider to align the 1u icon mods in centre and other icon mods that on longer keys to have same left indent alignment?
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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1051 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 22:49:21 »
Hey hey!

As promissed i've mapped new icons along with skidata icon mods to see how well they play together. And i'd like to share it with you.

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In my opinion the lines need to be slightly thicker. I'll adjust it. But there it is. On Enter you can see ther i took the scale (the thin rectangle). Ignore that dust on the sides i was in hury :)
would you consider to align the 1u icon mods in centre and other icon mods that on longer keys to have same left indent alignment?
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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1052 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 23:59:24 »
Hey hey!

As promissed i've mapped new icons along with skidata icon mods to see how well they play together. And i'd like to share it with you.

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In my opinion the lines need to be slightly thicker. I'll adjust it. But there it is. On Enter you can see ther i took the scale (the thin rectangle). Ignore that dust on the sides i was in hury :)
would you consider to align the 1u icon mods in centre and other icon mods that on longer keys to have same left indent alignment?
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I get you, but its about having the same alignment as all the existing keys. Sure i can consider making at least 1u keys centered.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1053 on: Thu, 09 March 2017, 06:46:52 »
So When start GB?
I Can't waiting!!

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1054 on: Thu, 09 March 2017, 07:17:43 »
So When start GB?
I Can't waiting!!
Dude like 3 people have asked that on this page. April.
But I'll let it slide I'm excited too :)

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1055 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 15:27:08 »
Another try...

Icons are reworked and boldier.


Of course the alignment on 1u keys is debatable. I for myself like the centered ones.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1056 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 15:28:21 »
Thicker lines look good. I do agree, I like the centered look.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1057 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 15:40:19 »
Ditto, thicker lines and centred 1u for me too. Looks great.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1058 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 15:40:44 »
Not interested in buying the Icon pack but +1 for centered 1u legends

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1059 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 15:55:08 »
centred and bold legends look nice

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1060 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 17:22:32 »
Another try...

Icons are reworked and boldier.
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Of course the alignment on 1u keys is debatable. I for myself like the centered ones.

It seems that you tried to use the same "blank" area for all the symbols. However, the diamond and the super symbols may look better if they were a bit smaller, don't you think?

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1061 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 17:41:54 »
Potentially dumb question but doesn't line thickness and shape size depend on the molds available?

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1062 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 17:43:52 »
Another try...

Icons are reworked and boldier.
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Of course the alignment on 1u keys is debatable. I for myself like the centered ones.

It looks great, I'm really happy with how it turned out. Also +1 on the centered 1u legends.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1063 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 17:44:23 »
Another try...

Icons are reworked and boldier.
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Of course the alignment on 1u keys is debatable. I for myself like the centered ones.

It seems that you tried to use the same "blank" area for all the symbols. However, the diamond and the super symbols may look better if they were a bit smaller, don't you think?

Sure i can make those smaller. Though the diamond may get too small in width but i'll test it first. You are right with the same blanck area. Its a recangle and the symbols are applied by specific rules. Though the diamond is made little bit larger same like one do for letter O,S,I etc... By the way the symbols you've called are super (diamond) and menu... :) If not correct me please.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1064 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 17:49:06 »
Potentially dumb question but doesn't line thickness and shape size depend on the molds available?

What do you mean exactly? For those new symbols gmk needs to make new "legend molds". Probably you mean the limitation for doubleshot technique, then well too thin lines are not good. There are other limitations but i am sure these new symbols are doable without issues.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1065 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 17:57:31 »
Potentially dumb question but doesn't line thickness and shape size depend on the molds available?

What do you mean exactly? For those new symbols gmk needs to make new "legend molds". Probably you mean the limitation for doubleshot technique, then well too thin lines are not good. There are other limitations but i am sure these new symbols are doable without issues.
No I think I just missed that we were getting new molds for the symbols :)

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1066 on: Mon, 13 March 2017, 18:17:04 »
Another try...

Icons are reworked and boldier.
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Of course the alignment on 1u keys is debatable. I for myself like the centered ones.

It seems that you tried to use the same "blank" area for all the symbols. However, the diamond and the super symbols may look better if they were a bit smaller, don't you think?

Sure i can make those smaller. Though the diamond may get too small in width but i'll test it first. You are right with the same blanck area. Its a recangle and the symbols are applied by specific rules. Though the diamond is made little bit larger same like one do for letter O,S,I etc... By the way the symbols you've called are super (diamond) and menu... :) If not correct me please.

They look good, already. I am pretty sure they will look even better in real life. Good job!

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1067 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 00:18:01 »
I'm really not a fan of the off-center symbols on the 1.25u keys, I think they would look better centered, rather than aligned with the 1u. Not sure if I'm getting the set though, so don't let my opinion carry too much weight.
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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1068 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 00:21:04 »
The icon update is very good, with the time passes you will know eventually how the size should be, I know it. For now the only thing bother me is the arrow on Esc, kinda off compared to enter and backspace, seems like it is due to the smaller size but still..

Nice job bud :thumb:

For the 1u centered, ricyuyci's idea is neat, it can be centered as long as it gives the 'same' alignment.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1069 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 08:17:25 »
This is gonna be the set to get next to oblivion.  I mean two years from now people are going to be wishing they could go back in time when this GB opens.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1070 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 13:30:21 »
This is gonna be the set to get next to oblivion.  I mean two years from now people are going to be wishing they could go back in time when this GB opens.

Oh i forgot how much time passed since i've started this IC. Well if you remember i wanted initially to make yuri in cherry profile and look its going to be how i wanted :) How things changed.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1071 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 13:53:23 »
Oh i forgot how much time passed since i've started this IC. Well if you remember i wanted initially to make yuri in cherry profile and look its going to be how i wanted :) How things changed.

I'm so excited, I really wonder how much it'll cost to cover a 60% with the new icons and Cyrillic - it's gonna be such a cool thing to do, hopefully GMK can handle it all well and at as very little cost as can be; the success the set has to see prior to those kits "opening" doesn't worry me in the slightest, I'm sure people are going to be all over the base kit.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1072 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 14:37:24 »
Actually i got other stuff to do, like fix/adjust the size of two icon mods.... But i always wanted to do that.

That is how cherry cyrillics shoud have been done long days ago. Ignore the number row and some symbols, sicne this render was made to show how letters play with everything else and especially the cherry profile.

I really wonder how much it'll cost to cover a 60% with the new icons and Cyrillic.

It will cost reasonably for new molds. But lets wait and see. Its possible GMK is going to surprise us ;)


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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1073 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 15:04:59 »
beautiful legends, comrade

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1074 on: Sun, 19 March 2017, 07:37:38 »
Another try...

Icons are reworked and boldier.
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Of course the alignment on 1u keys is debatable. I for myself like the centered ones.

These icons are looking good!
I like the centered legends on the 1u caps as well.

Is there a standard orientation for the Alt icon? It has been turned upside down compared to the previous mockups.


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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1075 on: Sun, 19 March 2017, 07:55:45 »
[...]
Is there a standard orientation for the Alt icon? It has been turned upside down compared to the previous mockups.


Apple uses this orientation for the option key.
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The ISO icon version for the alt key has the other orientation.
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So I suppose that's why we have seen the two different versions.
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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1076 on: Sun, 19 March 2017, 10:24:54 »
I've been staying away from GMK because of my luv for PBT, but I don't think I'll be able to pass up the doubleshot Cyrillics, in combination with the theme, colorway, and novelties.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1077 on: Sat, 25 March 2017, 09:12:56 »
Rahhhh I don't wanna wait any more!!!

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1078 on: Sat, 25 March 2017, 15:19:47 »
Is here no way to have Cyrillic and Roman letters together in harmony with gmk?

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1079 on: Sat, 25 March 2017, 15:23:29 »
Is here no way to have Cyrillic and Roman letters together in harmony with gmk?

they can do it with pad printing but not doubleshot

it doesn't look especially good, but it's not appalling either
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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1080 on: Sat, 25 March 2017, 15:29:58 »
Is here no way to have Cyrillic and Roman letters together in harmony with gmk?

Only look good if they'd triple shot it which right now is not possible; however, it is in theory (and probably practice too) possible in the future if they get more/new tooling.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1081 on: Sat, 25 March 2017, 15:31:56 »
Is here no way to have Cyrillic and Roman letters together in harmony with gmk?

they can do it with pad printing but not doubleshot

it doesn't look especially good, but it's not appalling either

I'll have to get both sets of alphas then. I convinced my sisters to pitch in and build my brother in law a kb with this set for his birthday or he holidays, depending on timing. Was hoping to have both scripts on one key but I'll take what I can get.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1082 on: Sun, 26 March 2017, 12:28:16 »
Adjusted following icons: Escape, Menu and Super/Gui/Win.


it doesn't look especially good, but it's not appalling either

I dont get this sentence. I think you relate this negativity to padprinting but not the look of possible result.

Anyway padprinting is a no go for me. If someday we got a chance to do tripple shot...
Also its pretty subjective but i think many people will do unspeakable things for something like this:



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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1083 on: Sun, 26 March 2017, 15:17:43 »
I love those orange, please consider a extended set in the future with blues and blacks with that! :thumb: :p

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1084 on: Sun, 26 March 2017, 15:31:30 »
can't take pictures of it right now but there are some weird bleed issues on my GMK cyrillic set
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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1085 on: Sun, 26 March 2017, 16:11:12 »
can't take pictures of it right now but there are some weird bleed issues on my GMK cyrillic set

How long ago was that set produced?  GMK last year corrected those bleed issues after TA.  T0mb3ry already went through extensive bleed thru testing with GMK Carbon before that set was even produced.  Secondly, this is doubleshot cyrillic.  I understand what you are doing by asking the question, but I believe this has been covered (maybe not specifically with Cyrillic legends, but perhaps best for the thread with which those Cryillics were originally run in?

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1086 on: Sun, 26 March 2017, 16:32:21 »
can't take pictures of it right now but there are some weird bleed issues on my GMK cyrillic set

How long ago was that set produced?  GMK last year corrected those bleed issues after TA.  T0mb3ry already went through extensive bleed thru testing with GMK Carbon before that set was even produced.  Secondly, this is doubleshot cyrillic.  I understand what you are doing by asking the question, but I believe this has been covered (maybe not specifically with Cyrillic legends, but perhaps best for the thread with which those Cryillics were originally run in?

I think he relates to padprinting (reading through the conversation about to combine latin and cyrillic alphasbets in one alphas, which ofcourse currently is only possible with padprinting). But as i said before, i will never do padprinting. Thats why there are two alpha sets (latin and cyrillic) being both doubleshot.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1087 on: Sun, 26 March 2017, 20:19:03 »
Anyway padprinting is a no go for me. If someday we got a chance to do tripple shot...
Also its pretty subjective but i think many people will do unspeakable things for something like this:

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yes, think of the children and then... NO! GIVE MEH DAT TRIPLESHOTTT  :eek: :eek: :eek:

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1088 on: Tue, 28 March 2017, 02:43:06 »
A long shot, 1.5u Meta/Code/Command key? Just like on HHKB. This key never have a chance to appear on GMK :/

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1089 on: Tue, 28 March 2017, 10:17:27 »
A long shot, 1.5u Meta/Code/Command key? Just like on HHKB. This key never have a chance to appear on GMK :/

Yes this, it would be useful for Mac layouts as well.

For the bottom row, I use 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.5, 1.5
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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1090 on: Tue, 28 March 2017, 10:19:34 »
This is a great looking set!

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1091 on: Tue, 28 March 2017, 11:24:08 »
Sorry no OS specific keys. I will think about 1.5u code key. Kinda to much working on two sets at the same time.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1092 on: Tue, 28 March 2017, 11:46:43 »
Sorry no OS specific keys. I will think about 1.5u code key. Kinda to much working on two sets at the same time.

Yes! 1.5 code key would work well.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1093 on: Tue, 28 March 2017, 23:53:04 »
I`m ****ing exited. When will it be released?

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1094 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 00:38:01 »
I`m ****ing exited. When will it be released?

April

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1095 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 05:34:00 »
Sorry no OS specific keys. I will think about 1.5u code key. Kinda to much working on two sets at the same time.

It's okay, meta (diamond) is cool too! At least it isn't Alt nor Ctrl and not illustration novelties.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1096 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 08:03:32 »
I`m ****ing exited. When will it be released?

April
Any idea when in April? April's almost here so I want to know when I can start counting down the days

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1097 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 08:08:18 »
Any idea when in April? April's almost here so I want to know when I can start counting down the days

Considering Massdrop's current schedule with the whole Ortholinear madness and everything I'd say you have time - the Planck is about to end but the Preonic is starting right after and we don't know yet if Yuri's coming right after that so I'd say counting down the days is not necessary just yet.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1098 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 09:01:56 »
Any idea when in April? April's almost here so I want to know when I can start counting down the days

Considering Massdrop's current schedule with the whole Ortholinear madness and everything I'd say you have time - the Planck is about to end but the Preonic is starting right after and we don't know yet if Yuri's coming right after that so I'd say counting down the days is not necessary just yet.

So on the reddit page for GMK Oblivion, spoonyluv47 (who I think is the same person as Tomb3ry here on GH, please correct me if I am wrong) said that Yuri got delayed to May.  Sad news, but my wallet is probably better off for it.

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Re: [IC] YURI R1 GMK (Cherry profile)
« Reply #1099 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 09:03:04 »
Any idea when in April? April's almost here so I want to know when I can start counting down the days

Considering Massdrop's current schedule with the whole Ortholinear madness and everything I'd say you have time - the Planck is about to end but the Preonic is starting right after and we don't know yet if Yuri's coming right after that so I'd say counting down the days is not necessary just yet.

So on the reddit page for GMK Oblivion, spoonyluv47 (who I think is the same person as Tomb3ry here on GH, please correct me if I am wrong) said that Yuri got delayed to May.  Sad news, but my wallet is probably better off for it.
So much sadness