Granite Round 4 design update

[Matt3o]

hi   matt3o
 
please   add  the  cat  to  bouns pack

cat key was a limited edition done for my wife never gonna happen again

[abyx]

How about the hacker emblem?

[pomk]

Any chance of adding the pipe/slash key to the elven set? Seems a bit silly to buy the base set for just one key and spacebar (and the function keys if you go full size), which you can buy separately anyway. Or is it supposed to go with the HHKB backspace ?

[Matt3o]

Any chance of adding the pipe/slash key to the elven set? Seems a bit silly to buy the base set for just one key and spacebar (and the function keys if you go full size), which you can buy separately anyway. Or is it supposed to go with the HHKB backspace ?

have to check with massdrop on that.

[ideus]

Is there a final design defined already? Are you gonna share it here, or we should wait for MD to post the drop?

[dohbot]

What about a red backspace key in icon and text extra packs?

[Matt3o]

Is there a final design defined already? Are you gonna share it here, or we should wait for MD to post the drop?

I'm still waiting for the quote from SP. With that we will make some adjustments and publish the final design.

[ideus]

Is there a final design defined already? Are you gonna share it here, or we should wait for MD to post the drop?

I'm still waiting for the quote from SP. With that we will make some adjustments and publish the final design.

Awesome, thank you for the answer.

[nathanrosspowell]

If you don't want to go with the number row on the original 'secondary' mock up:



Can you consider making the number row the same style as these? Centred lower legend with split upper legends:



The design from the imgur album, with the empty space on the top right quarter, makes my skin itch 



In my opinion on this style of number row:
It will look strange if you wanted to mix them with any of the international number row keys (which have centred primary legends and secondary legends off to the side).
If will look strange if you wanted to mix them the included numpad secondary legends.
There is no 'offset' version of the backslash key, so it would look strange with a split backspace layout (on the HHKB layout backslash has a secondary function on insert, tilde has the function of delete).
Basically, style wise they are not mix and match like all the other secondary legend keys     
The ability to use a mix of kits to fill out any keyboard, due to the uniform profile and aesthetics, is one of the biggest achievements of the granite set 

Just my 2 cents 

[Jedi]

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That is beautiful, may I ask what keyboard you used for those awesome keys.

[nathanrosspowell]

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That is beautiful, may I ask what keyboard you used for those awesome keys.

That's one of Matt3o's personal custom builds.

[Latin00032]

If I already have a granite set, if I just get some add on sets, will they still match?

I don't know if a slightly different pbt color is being used.

[iamtootallforthis]

If I already have a granite set, if I just get some add on sets, will they still match?

I don't know if a slightly different pbt color is being used.

They'll match.

[ddot]

Will there be any changes to the Ergodoxian kit?  Have you given any thought about rotating the legends 90 degrees on the = and - keys?

I second some additional 1.5u keys being rotated 90 degrees.  With 4 of those rotated 1.5u spots and only 4 keys with rotated legends, your options are limited.  Everyone is going to have different layouts, but the =+ and -_ are probably as good a candidates as any.

While I'm dreaming, including the 1.5u backspace key may be useful for those that don't map the backspace into their thumb cluster.

Also, any chance on the cut/copy/paste keys making a return?

[OneDudeWolfPack]

Will there be any changes to the Ergodoxian kit?  Have you given any thought about rotating the legends 90 degrees on the = and - keys?

I second some additional 1.5u keys being rotated 90 degrees.  With 4 of those rotated 1.5u spots and only 4 keys with rotated legends, your options are limited.  Everyone is going to have different layouts, but the =+ and -_ are probably as good a candidates as any.

While I'm dreaming, including the 1.5u backspace key may be useful for those that don't map the backspace into their thumb cluster.

Also, any chance on the cut/copy/paste keys making a return?

I like the undo/cut/copy/paste keys as well on my blank Ergodox.  Kinda wanted to add some color to them this round.

@Matt3o: was there any reason why the Text RGB kit doesn't have a Green Shift in 1.5u/1u and Red Control in 1u?  Not trying to get overboard, but just noticed that when I pulled out my baggies from Round 2 or 3.  With the new Planck (Grid type) keyboards have any of  those users asked for those keys in RGB?

[Matt3o]

if it were for me I would put every possible key combination. I think that if you can spend $150-200 in a keyset you can spend $200-250 and have it perfect.

That being said I understand that we have to keep the price down as much as possible, so adding an infinite number of combinations is not actually possible.

[Arcoril]

Looking good! But would it be possible to add 1u modifiers to the RGB pack (or maybe a separate pack) for us color coordinated WhiteFox/Planck/JD40/Ergodox users?

[UTEster750]

if it were for me I would put every possible key combination. I think that if you can spend $150-200 in a keyset you can spend $200-250 and have it perfect.

That being said I understand that we have to keep the price down as much as possible, so adding an infinite number of combinations is not actually possible.

Will SP do single order sets?

[Matt3o]

we've got pricing! Now few updates and I'll post the final version.

[Zapheo]

we've got pricing! Now few updates and I'll post the final version.

Hey Matt3o when is the gb going live?

[Matt3o]

we've got pricing! Now few updates and I'll post the final version.

Hey Matt3o when is the gb going live?

as soon as the MD page is ready, this week for sure

[Zorberema]

we've got pricing! Now few updates and I'll post the final version.

Hey Matt3o when is the gb going live?

as soon as the MD page is ready, this week for sure

This week as before monday or before next sunday?

[Kibort]

can't study properly because i'm watching the massdrop page constantly

[UTEster750]

can't study properly because i'm watching the massdrop page constantly

The drop will be up for a few days so you can relax for a bit 

[Matt3o]

This week as before monday or before next sunday?

this coming week if your week starts on Monday. This week if it starts the wrong day.

[yoobe]

I personnaly like one color for all F-Keys. What about a pack to have all grey or white F-Keys?

[Matt3o]

I personnaly like one color for all F-Keys. What about a pack to have all grey or white F-Keys?

YES! that has been included in the bonus pack!

[Zapheo]

we've got pricing! Now few updates and I'll post the final version.

Hey Matt3o when is the gb going live?

as soon as the MD page is ready, this week for sure

Will it still be live by this coming Friday?

[cryptokey]

Will we ever stop asking you when it will be live? 

[ideus]

Will we ever stop asking you when it will be live? 

Of course, it will stop when the drop becomes live.

[romevi]

Will we ever stop asking you when it will be live? 

Of course, it will stop when the drop becomes live.

Wa, wa.

[BigDov]

How do you feel about this:

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The RGB could be something like this, but I have to check on pricing first.

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Beautiful!!! My ergodox is screaming for that......great great GREAT combo!

edit: I think a 1.5 backspace key would finish off the ergodox set as well, maybe I'm in the minority in that, but I like my backspace on my pinky

[Matt3o]

edit: I think a 1.5 backspace key would finish off the ergodox set as well, maybe I'm in the minority in that, but I like my backspace on my pinky

in which orientation?

[BigDov]

edit: I think a 1.5 backspace key would finish off the ergodox set as well, maybe I'm in the minority in that, but I like my backspace on my pinky

in which orientation?

Horizontal, so I could place it over at the end of the top or second from the top row. If not possible, not a huge deal, I could always place a blank there.

[Matt3o]

can you show me some pictures or introduce me to some users who use that key in that orientation?

[BigDov]

like I said, I could be a minority! I will see what I can find and post here.... but, a blank pack solves this for me just as well, or I learn a more "standard" ergodox layout.

edit: there are a couple on this page, actually some of the first boards I was tempted by when getting into an ergodox  http://xahlee.info/kbd/ergodox_keyboard.html
edit2: a couple here, too  http://keypuller.com/granite/

[Matt3o]

like I said, I could be a minority! I will see what I can find and post here.... but, a blank pack solves this for me just as well, or I learn a more "standard" ergodox layout.

edit: there are a couple on this page, actually some of the first boards I was tempted by when getting into an ergodox  http://xahlee.info/kbd/ergodox_keyboard.html
edit2: a couple here, too  http://keypuller.com/granite/

okay, sold. Let's see if I can fit it...

EDIT: actually... you would need the pro-modifiers anyway for ctrl/alt, so I am not so sure the "back space" is really needed in the ergodox kit

[BigDov]

okay, sold. Let's see if I can fit it...

EDIT: actually... you would need the pro-modifiers anyway for ctrl/alt, so I am not so sure the "back space" is really needed in the ergodox kit

that sounds good to me Matt3o, I can adjust easily... in fact, that has made me go back and evaluate the layout. Another pack to solve this isn't the end of the world to me. Thanks!!

edit: I just went back and looked at the imgur album again, I must have missed the 1.5 backspace in the pro-modifier pack completely! Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

[Matt3o]

few updates.

the ANSI legends on the sindarin kit are way smaller now. The secondary legend kit has a more pleasant number row. The bonus pack has some extras. Monolegend has | and _. Extra homing got a 5.

[FLFisherman]

few updates.

the ANSI legends on the sindarin kit are way smaller now. The secondary legend kit has a more pleasant number row. The bonus pack has some extras. Monolegend has | and _. Extra homing got a 5.

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Those elves and their fancy alphabets. I'm going to guess it's LotR Elvish, right?

[Matt3o]

Those elves and their fancy alphabets. I'm going to guess it's LotR Elvish, right?

it is, yes.

[thaddeus]

The number row (secondary pack) looks way better like this. 

[nathanrosspowell]

The secondary legend kit has a more pleasant number row.

No more complaints from me, I promise I'm now ready to hand over all my money 

[BigDov]

No more complaints from me, I promise I'm now ready to hand over all my money 

Same here, this is looking pretty amazing.

[Delete]

this  time ,the   6u  Spacebar  is  dropped,  how  i  should  use  on  cherry G80-  1865,1869&1808 keyboards？ 
   please 

[ideus]

Secondary legend makes it for me.

[nathanrosspowell]

this  time ,the   6u  Spacebar  is  dropped,  how  i  should  use  on  cherry G80-  1865,1869&1808 keyboards？ 
   please

I think this is what you need

6 SPACE GRAY (GKK) : http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-spacebars-pack-of-1/

[QuickDelat]

and it's on Massdrop https://www.massdrop.com/buy/granite-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

[nathanrosspowell]

and it's on Massdrop https://www.massdrop.com/buy/granite-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

Awesome!

Secondary kit and ISO enter ordered
This is the third round of Granite I've spend money on haha.

[Brammm87]

My first round. The MD order form is a pain if you want to get lots of extras. Anyway... 300$ later... Let's hope my accountant believes the "I need this for work" spiel.