Noxary Keyboards

[xondat]

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[Firebolt1914]

literally a rectangle with brass 0/10

[TheVengeance]

Is this not literally the RS84 special edition, brass and all.?

[Photekq]

Is this not literally the RS84 special edition, brass and all.?

The two look nothing alike, aside from the form factor. Git out.

[xondat]

Is this not literally the RS84 special edition, brass and all.?

Form factor is the same. Every 60% is a Pok3r so I see where you're coming from.

Feel free to show me a picture of it looking like mine )

[TheVengeance]

I know where you're coming from.

And I guess yours is solid walled etc.
But the brass bit is super similar.

[xondat]

Didn't even know this existed.

My weight is on the inside, opposite to the RS84. I can show you a range of kustoms with weights though, it's pretty normal.

[Photekq]

I know where you're coming from.

And I guess yours is solid walled etc.
But the brass bit is super similar.

How unique can one make a rectangle of brass? It's not even mounted on the same face by the way.

[TheVengeance]

I guess I'm just a big n00b, I'll sit down.

I'm sorry.

I didn't realise that brass weights were such a thing. Had only seen on the RS84, which is also 75%.

As such looks cool, 75% appears to be the sweet spot for me.

[xondat]

I guess I'm just a big n00b, I'll sit down.

I'm sorry.

I didn't realise that brass weights were such a thing. Had only seen on the RS84, which is also 75%.

As such looks cool, 75% appears to be the sweet spot for me.

Welcome to the world of customs!

[KingRama]

Great work Xondat! Very impressive that you dived straight in and came out with this  Looks like a fun project to test out your new found abilities - best of luck with it! 

[xtrafrood]

Looks like a serious 75% case to me.

[Zorberema]

Looks great mate, you should've used sketchup though

[xondat]

Just got quoted - "it would cost over £500 at least". This is for one, anodized with the weight. That's $730 for people that use USD.

Anyway my goal for today is to try a different layout, 60%, and see if I can finish with a case/plate/weight like this.

[xondat]

This is currently what I'm working on.

[xondat]

Getting closer to finishing this. I just need to add a couple of finishing touches and it'll be done for now.

[xondat]

Dumping final pictures and renders of the X60 here and will post pictures of what I'm up to tomorrow. I finished the base model for a TKL, and will finish up a 75%. Numpad work will start as soon as I'm happy all my designs are accurate.

[Jokrik]

[xondat]

75% and TKL bases complete. Numpad development is going on now. )

[xondat]

Wasn't too difficult. Going to take suggestions on what next - someone has said ergodox (ew).

[stillzman]

really want that 75%

[QuincyJones]

OH! Look! It's every other keyboard that exists!

[xondat]

[Phenix]

I would really like to see something like that but with also arrows on the left side.

And more bottom row options for split space

[romevi]

No idea how I totally missed this thread.

[xondat]

No idea how I totally missed this thread.

I mean it's nothing significant... I forgot about it until yesterday )

[xondat]

**** render but im still learning, new one in a bit

had a request for a blocker on a 75% to separate the arrow keys and whatever, most likely will offer it when i release this

[xondat]

it's too zoomed out but **** it

probably will put an IC up as I pack 60S, and launch when I'm done I guess

[stillzman]

any idea when when this will be released?

[xondat]

any idea when when this will be released?

X75? November providing everything goes to plan.

Going to finish X60 first.

[xondat]

I updated the OP to show everything I plan on doing in the next 6 months that I've revealed

[Niomosy]

Dat 75%.  One with Gateron reds would be fantastic.

[cribbit]

Where/how do you get the physical product produced?

Any tips for using CAD software? Trying some out right now but I feel like a moron trying to use it.

[R4WBIT]

Would love to see your take on a 96% board in the future. We desperately need one without LED diffusers á la ZZ96 & RS96. Absolutely love the style of just plain aluminum without anything unnecessary

[xondat]

Where/how do you get the physical product produced?

Any tips for using CAD software?

Lots of searching for the perfect manufacturer. Pour hundreds of hours into practice and understanding how it all works. I probably did 100 in the first couple of weeks.

Would love to see your take on a 96% board in the future. We desperately need one without LED diffusers á la ZZ96 & RS96. Absolutely love the style of just plain aluminum without anything unnecessary

[xondat]

Updated.

X65 will come before X75, just confirming some information before I officially start a thread or something.

[Saiph]

Updated.

X65 will come before X75, just confirming some information before I officially start a thread or something.

Darn

[xondat]

Actually, I need to expand further.

For future releases (X65, X75, etc), they will be in rounds of 25 and each design will max out at either 50 or 100. I want to do rounds to break everything up a bit, but also it gives flexibility to what I run. For example, I could do X65 R1 December, then X75 R1 January, then X65 R2 February etc. It works for everyone. This also allows me to fulfill rounds/orders much quicker, as the parts will already be machined, so I'd start the GB and within a week they should be ready to ship to me as they'd only need anodizing.

I'll also be changing the colors I use, this is all very much in the air right now, but it's looking like I'll be dropping Gold. Dark Gray and Silver are here to stay, Red most likely is too. I'm uncertain about the future of Black, Dark Blue and Purple. Most of this depends on how I like the color when I actually see it on a board (X60 production). I've also been thinking about introducing a custom, user-polled color for each round, so for example, X65 R1 might have a Sky Blue, and then X65 R2 might have Viper Green.

Regarding "Edition" boards, the future of those is uncertain. I personally like having numbered, and/or limited things, but I'm aware some people also get rather annoyed which ruins it for some people that actually enjoy it. It also might **** with the aftermarket price, but that isn't a massive concern. I really like the Carbon Edition, but I feel like it limits the users that chose that too much, so I'll have to rethink that.

For PCBs, now that I'm not using a universal platform (60%), I have to either outsource or learn how to do it myself. This is why X65 is coming a lot sooner, as I was going to be learning how to make my own, and then releasing it with my own custom PCB. X75 was always going to be sooner, as I would've used the winkeyless b.mini and then that would've delayed enough until I knew how to make my own for X65. Instead, I've been in talks with someone and they'll be supplying the PCBs for X65 so in the meantime I'll learn how to design PCBs.

And finally, just because it needed to be mentioned, there will be no group buys until I have fulfilled X60. However, there probably will be teases/interest checks up until then. Oh and if anyone read all of this, please leave some feedback/discussion points on your thoughts. Thanks!

[Saiph]

I really like that you're aiming for such fast rounds. Sometimes planning builds 6 months in advance can get tiring. Do you know what firmware your pcbs will be supporting yet?

[xondat]

I really like that you're aiming for such fast rounds. Sometimes planning builds 6 months in advance can get tiring. Do you know what firmware your pcbs will be supporting yet?

X65 will be a modified version of TMK, I'll probably follow the same path, but honestly I've not looked into it yet so I don't really know much about firmware.

[PlastikSchnittstelle]

will it be possible, to order the 65% PCB separately?
great work!

[xondat]

will it be possible, to order the 65% PCB separately?
great work!

Not from me no, you'd also have the problem of finding a case for the PCB although I think the designer of the PCB is doing a lower cost case.

[Fictiouz]

Actually, I need to expand further.

For future releases (X65, X75, etc), they will be in rounds of 25 and each design will max out at either 50 or 100. I want to do rounds to break everything up a bit, but also it gives flexibility to what I run. For example, I could do X65 R1 December, then X75 R1 January, then X65 R2 February etc. It works for everyone. This also allows me to fulfill rounds/orders much quicker, as the parts will already be machined, so I'd start the GB and within a week they should be ready to ship to me as they'd only need anodizing.

I'll also be changing the colors I use, this is all very much in the air right now, but it's looking like I'll be dropping Gold. Dark Gray and Silver are here to stay, Red most likely is too. I'm uncertain about the future of Black, Dark Blue and Purple. Most of this depends on how I like the color when I actually see it on a board (X60 production). I've also been thinking about introducing a custom, user-polled color for each round, so for example, X65 R1 might have a Sky Blue, and then X65 R2 might have Viper Green.

Regarding "Edition" boards, the future of those is uncertain. I personally like having numbered, and/or limited things, but I'm aware some people also get rather annoyed which ruins it for some people that actually enjoy it. It also might **** with the aftermarket price, but that isn't a massive concern. I really like the Carbon Edition, but I feel like it limits the users that chose that too much, so I'll have to rethink that.

For PCBs, now that I'm not using a universal platform (60%), I have to either outsource or learn how to do it myself. This is why X65 is coming a lot sooner, as I was going to be learning how to make my own, and then releasing it with my own custom PCB. X75 was always going to be sooner, as I would've used the winkeyless b.mini and then that would've delayed enough until I knew how to make my own for X65. Instead, I've been in talks with someone and they'll be supplying the PCBs for X65 so in the meantime I'll learn how to design PCBs.

And finally, just because it needed to be mentioned, there will be no group buys until I have fulfilled X60. However, there probably will be teases/interest checks up until then. Oh and if anyone read all of this, please leave some feedback/discussion points on your thoughts. Thanks!

Everything looks great xondat. Plans are well thought out and fairly clear for everyone interested. And THANK YOU for prioritizing the GB's you're currently working on versus ones that are still in the development. It's way better to get one thing out the door then be micromanaging many different things in my opinion.

Can't wait to see what's in store with your future designs. That dark grey and red color scheme you always preview is really growing on me. Maybe that's what I'll get when X75 rolls around.

Stop stealing all my money and good luck with all your endeavors.

EDIT: Also, when designing the 65% PCB, for the love of god, do not make the USB in the center of the PCB.

[PlastikSchnittstelle]

Not from me no, you'd also have the problem of finding a case for the PCB although I think the designer of the PCB is doing a lower cost case.

thanks for your quick reply.

damn, i cant find no 65% pcb being sold separately anywhere. i do like your case-design. but i want to make my own. i have experience in lasering alu and folding, so it is really not a big deal for me. since i will not design my own caps nor pcb, the case is the only chance for me to give it a more personal note.

any idea where i could find a 65% pcb?

[Fictiouz]

I made a little guide to help the lost firebort get back on track... It was using a layout idea by switchnollie and then vamped by frostytoast.

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If someone can make a PCB for this, I'll have a few made because it looks fun :))

Just saw this now. This layout gets me hot and bothered.

If this supports HHKB Num row, ANSI Enter and uses short right shift I would wait a lifetime for this layout.

EDIT: Missed the album. See the design better now. Maybe not what I thought, but still a neat design!

[cribbit]

I made a little guide to help the lost firebort get back on track... It was using a layout idea by switchnollie and then vamped by frostytoast.

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http://imgur.com/a/i6IRw

If someone can make a PCB for this, I'll have a few made because it looks fun :))

Just saw this now. This layout gets me hot and bothered.

If this supports HHKB Num row, ANSI Enter and uses short right shift I would wait a lifetime for this layout.

EDIT: Missed the album. See the design better now. Maybe not what I thought, but still a neat design!

If you have a dream layout and money you could always build it yourself, or pay someone like me to build it for you :)

[gzprime]

Actually, I need to expand further.

For future releases (X65, X75, etc), they will be in rounds of 25 and each design will max out at either 50 or 100. I want to do rounds to break everything up a bit, but also it gives flexibility to what I run. For example, I could do X65 R1 December, then X75 R1 January, then X65 R2 February etc. It works for everyone. This also allows me to fulfill rounds/orders much quicker, as the parts will already be machined, so I'd start the GB and within a week they should be ready to ship to me as they'd only need anodizing.

I'll also be changing the colors I use, this is all very much in the air right now, but it's looking like I'll be dropping Gold. Dark Gray and Silver are here to stay, Red most likely is too. I'm uncertain about the future of Black, Dark Blue and Purple. Most of this depends on how I like the color when I actually see it on a board (X60 production). I've also been thinking about introducing a custom, user-polled color for each round, so for example, X65 R1 might have a Sky Blue, and then X65 R2 might have Viper Green.

Regarding "Edition" boards, the future of those is uncertain. I personally like having numbered, and/or limited things, but I'm aware some people also get rather annoyed which ruins it for some people that actually enjoy it. It also might **** with the aftermarket price, but that isn't a massive concern. I really like the Carbon Edition, but I feel like it limits the users that chose that too much, so I'll have to rethink that.

For PCBs, now that I'm not using a universal platform (60%), I have to either outsource or learn how to do it myself. This is why X65 is coming a lot sooner, as I was going to be learning how to make my own, and then releasing it with my own custom PCB. X75 was always going to be sooner, as I would've used the winkeyless b.mini and then that would've delayed enough until I knew how to make my own for X65. Instead, I've been in talks with someone and they'll be supplying the PCBs for X65 so in the meantime I'll learn how to design PCBs.

And finally, just because it needed to be mentioned, there will be no group buys until I have fulfilled X60. However, there probably will be teases/interest checks up until then. Oh and if anyone read all of this, please leave some feedback/discussion points on your thoughts. Thanks!

I like that you're changing things up to finish projects one at a time. I look forward to different colorways and options in the future. If there was an option of purple anodizing with the x75 that would be some end game stuff for me. I was already considering having the plate re-anodized to be purple but I still can't find anyone local that is up to my standards. Don't make me beg for purple. 

I, too, like the limited nature of things. This will (hopefully) be my 3rd 75% and I'm kinda crazy and wouldn't be opposed to owning multiple x75s if they offered feature sets that made them unique enough to own multiples.

I just had a custom PCB designed for an ortholinear layout so if you need people to talk to, just send me a PM. It was more cost-effective than I thought it'd be.
 

[xondat]

damn, i cant find no 65% pcb being sold separately anywhere. i do like your case-design. but i want to make my own. i have experience in lasering alu and folding, so it is really not a big deal for me. since i will not design my own caps nor pcb, the case is the only chance for me to give it a more personal note.

any idea where i could find a 65% pcb?

I believe the PCB I will be offering will be available on its own slightly after mine. My 65% PCB could also be sold separately on request, but will be packaged with my designs.

Everything looks great xondat. Plans are well thought out and fairly clear for everyone interested. And THANK YOU for prioritizing the GB's you're currently working on versus ones that are still in the development. It's way better to get one thing out the door then be micromanaging many different things in my opinion.

Can't wait to see what's in store with your future designs. That dark grey and red color scheme you always preview is really growing on me. Maybe that's what I'll get when X75 rolls around.

Stop stealing all my money and good luck with all your endeavors.

EDIT: Also, when designing the 65% PCB, for the love of god, do not make the USB in the center of the PCB.

You're too kind The 65% PCB will be centered so it works with X65 and another design. Why should it not be centered?

Just saw this now. This layout gets me hot and bothered.

If this supports HHKB Num row, ANSI Enter and uses short right shift I would wait a lifetime for this layout.

EDIT: Missed the album. See the design better now. Maybe not what I thought, but still a neat design!

I will probably do this one day for fun. What was the design you thought it was?

I like that you're changing things up to finish projects one at a time. I look forward to different colorways and options in the future. If there was an option of purple anodizing with the x75 that would be some end game stuff for me. I was already considering having the plate re-anodized to be purple but I still can't find anyone local that is up to my standards. Don't make me beg for purple. 

I, too, like the limited nature of things. This will (hopefully) be my 3rd 75% and I'm kinda crazy and wouldn't be opposed to owning multiple x75s if they offered feature sets that made them unique enough to own multiples.

I just had a custom PCB designed for an ortholinear layout so if you need people to talk to, just send me a PM. It was more cost-effective than I thought it'd be.

I can't remember if I mentioned it, but the Blue and Purple I ordered with X60 are test colors, so you might see those in the future without having to beg. When I get started properly with PCB design, I'll be sure to message you.

[xondat]

It might be obvious, but this is a tray mount 60% case that I'll have readily available on my store next year along with my sandwich style case. The dimensions are identical to X60, including the height of the sides. It's compatible with all tray style cases, unless the corners on your plate isn't rounded.

Naming wise, either XT60 or T60. XT60 is a reference to my poor attempt last year at a tray mount case, but I didn't actually know anything to do with CAD. T60 is obvious too - Tray 60. It'll fit with my scheme which will be X (Flagship), T (Tray), and N (Sandwich). We'll stick with T60 for now.

I'll be getting this prototyped and shipped with X60 weights, along with N60. I'll post a picture of N60 in the next few days once I've finished the last little details.

[Brammm87]

Damn, awesome stuff!

[exanile_tabasco]

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It might be obvious, but this is a tray mount 60% case that I'll have readily available on my store next year along with my sandwich style case. The dimensions are identical to X60, including the height of the sides. It's compatible with all tray style cases, unless the corners on your plate isn't rounded.

Naming wise, either XT60 or T60. XT60 is a reference to my poor attempt last year at a tray mount case, but I didn't actually know anything to do with CAD. T60 is obvious too - Tray 60. It'll fit with my scheme which will be X (Flagship), T (Tray), and N (Sandwich). We'll stick with T60 for now.

I'll be getting this prototyped and shipped with X60 weights, along with N60. I'll post a picture of N60 in the next few days once I've finished the last little details.

Please, just take my money already

At $200 (easy shipping for a lad like me), this would be absolutely perfect. Got two 60% builds ready to go, and one is just sitting in a cheap Taobao case, waiting to move into something better. I've been itching to ditch low profile cases for a long time, and I'm only halfway there with my FMJ. This would complete the journey.

I love the work you've done with the X60, but at the time, $350-400 was a bit too much, and I was put off back then by the integrated plate as someone who had never done a custom build before. This would be something that I can support without hesitation. The X60 weight would be an awesome addition. Even better would be the inclusion of a center screwpost, something the FMJ doesn't have.

Good luck with all your upcoming projects!

[xondat]

Updated the main page and project page of my website, along with the OP in this. Can't figure out which colors to use for N60, but it'll do for now.

[LeandreN]

Nice and clean website with some interesting and cool looking projects. Love it!

[xondat]

Updated the OP, just about to update the website too.

[xondat]

Made some comparisons in CAD.











The only difference is the weight (and X60 is .2mm taller than T60). Really not sure if I should add the weight - if I do, I wouldn't be able to have it identical because of the central tray mounting point... So any advice, please weigh in! T60 is being prototyped at the minute, so waiting on the sample before I go any further. I'm also not sure if I'll do a GB or just drop some on my webstore (when it's up) as an initial debut, but they will be available all times.

[Unforgivable]

Made some comparisons in CAD.

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The only difference is the weight (and X60 is .2mm taller than T60). Really not sure if I should add the weight - if I do, I wouldn't be able to have it identical because of the central tray mounting point... So any advice, please weigh in! T60 is being prototyped at the minute, so waiting on the sample before I go any further. I'm also not sure if I'll do a GB or just drop some on my webstore (when it's up) as an initial debut, but they will be available all times.

I would really prefer keeping that central mounting point for the case, along with weights! LeandreN had a great idea with his case. I understand if you might not want something similar, so here's my idea. You could split the weight into two separate weights (Keeing the central mounting point) and use the screws to hold them down on the North and South of the case. Not sure if that makes sense. It will weigh a bit less, but at least all mounting points will be available.

[exanile_tabasco]

The only difference is the weight (and X60 is .2mm taller than T60). Really not sure if I should add the weight - if I do, I wouldn't be able to have it identical because of the central tray mounting point... So any advice, please weigh in! T60 is being prototyped at the minute, so waiting on the sample before I go any further. I'm also not sure if I'll do a GB or just drop some on my webstore (when it's up) as an initial debut, but they will be available all times.

Having thought about it a bit more, I'm no longer sure whether the T60 should have the weight.

Weight w/ no post: Having the weight would carry over nicely from the X60, but without the centre post, typing feel on some boards will suffer. Not too certain what exactly causes this disparity between different boards, since my PCBs are about the same thickness, and my plates are technically all aluminium; the GH60 does fine without a centre post, but B.face feels horrible, and GH60 satan is somewhere in between.

No weight: the case obviously loses the uniqueness factor, but as a hipro case with a thick base, it should already be plenty hefty.

Split weight: If prototyping a new, split weight will push the price towards $300, the prospect becomes less appealing.

[menuhin]

Will there be some 60% PCBs that compatible for installing on T60 but not on X60?
And will there be some PCBs that are opposite? i.e. fit X60, but not the T60.

[R4WBIT]

What happened to the N60 that was up at the site for a while? Loved the design
We need someone to make aluminum floating style cases to challenge wkl.kr and GON

[nmur]

75% and TKL bases complete. Numpad development is going on now. )

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is the TKL still a thing?

this design with the 8 deg angled form of the current X60 would literally be my perfect keyboard

[xondat]

I would really prefer keeping that central mounting point for the case, along with weights! LeandreN had a great idea with his case. I understand if you might not want something similar, so here's my idea. You could split the weight into two separate weights (Keeing the central mounting point) and use the screws to hold them down on the North and South of the case. Not sure if that makes sense. It will weigh a bit less, but at least all mounting points will be available.

Having thought about it a bit more, I'm no longer sure whether the T60 should have the weight.

Weight w/ no post: Having the weight would carry over nicely from the X60, but without the centre post, typing feel on some boards will suffer. Not too certain what exactly causes this disparity between different boards, since my PCBs are about the same thickness, and my plates are technically all aluminium; the GH60 does fine without a centre post, but B.face feels horrible, and GH60 satan is somewhere in between.

No weight: the case obviously loses the uniqueness factor, but as a hipro case with a thick base, it should already be plenty hefty.

Split weight: If prototyping a new, split weight will push the price towards $300, the prospect becomes less appealing.

The central mounting point would stay. I'm thinking about just having an external only weight like a 356 Mini.



Split weight is ...eh. I'm not keen on that idea too much.

Will there be some 60% PCBs that compatible for installing on T60 but not on X60?
And will there be some PCBs that are opposite? i.e. fit X60, but not the T60.

60% is a universal PCB, so they should all work in both X60 and T60.

What happened to the N60 that was up at the site for a while? Loved the design
We need someone to make aluminum floating style cases to challenge wkl.kr and GON

I wouldn't use it myself so I discontinued it.

is the TKL still a thing?

this design with the 8 deg angled form of the current X60 would literally be my perfect keyboard

The file is still a thing, and the idea for X80 is that if I still want more keyboard when I get X75 then I'll probably get it made.

[nmur]

is the TKL still a thing?

this design with the 8 deg angled form of the current X60 would literally be my perfect keyboard

The file is still a thing, and the idea for X80 is that if I still want more keyboard when I get X75 then I'll probably get it made.

sounds good

at this point in time i'm certainly going for the X75 so i'll likely be making the same decision as you if the X80 is made

[Unforgivable]

I would really prefer keeping that central mounting point for the case, along with weights! LeandreN had a great idea with his case. I understand if you might not want something similar, so here's my idea. You could split the weight into two separate weights (Keeing the central mounting point) and use the screws to hold them down on the North and South of the case. Not sure if that makes sense. It will weigh a bit less, but at least all mounting points will be available.

Having thought about it a bit more, I'm no longer sure whether the T60 should have the weight.

Weight w/ no post: Having the weight would carry over nicely from the X60, but without the centre post, typing feel on some boards will suffer. Not too certain what exactly causes this disparity between different boards, since my PCBs are about the same thickness, and my plates are technically all aluminium; the GH60 does fine without a centre post, but B.face feels horrible, and GH60 satan is somewhere in between.

No weight: the case obviously loses the uniqueness factor, but as a hipro case with a thick base, it should already be plenty hefty.

Split weight: If prototyping a new, split weight will push the price towards $300, the prospect becomes less appealing.

The central mounting point would stay. I'm thinking about just having an external only weight like a 356 Mini.

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Split weight is ...eh. I'm not keen on that idea too much.

Will there be some 60% PCBs that compatible for installing on T60 but not on X60?
And will there be some PCBs that are opposite? i.e. fit X60, but not the T60.

60% is a universal PCB, so they should all work in both X60 and T60.

What happened to the N60 that was up at the site for a while? Loved the design :rolleyes:
We need someone to make aluminum floating style cases to challenge wkl.kr and GON :D

I wouldn't use it myself so I discontinued it.

is the TKL still a thing?

this design with the 8 deg angled form of the current X60 would literally be my perfect keyboard

The file is still a thing, and the idea for X80 is that if I still want more keyboard when I get X75 then I'll probably get it made.

External weight sounds good to me! It's a great idea. Would it be brass or Stainless Steel?

Any chance of making brass plates to sell as well? Probably jumping ahead of myself here, but one can dream!

On a side note, do you think you'd ever make a tray mount case with a removable top and an external weight? Kind of like the 365Mini but with standard 60%, Winkeyless, and HHKB tops?

[xondat]

External weight sounds good to me! It's a great idea. Would it be brass or Stainless Steel?

Any chance of making brass plates to sell as well? Probably jumping ahead of myself here, but one can dream!

On a side note, do you think you'd ever make a tray mount case with a removable top and an external weight? Kind of like the 365Mini but with standard 60%, Winkeyless, and HHKB tops?

Both materials for the weight. I'll be doing brass plates along with CF, polycarbonate, aluminum and stainless steel.

If I think tray feels as good (but different) to X60, then maybe I'll do what you suggested, but otherwise it'd be really pointless.

[xondat]

Okay I forgot that I really like external weights. This is here to stay - I'll get a new quote and get this made ASAP.

[exanile_tabasco]

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Okay I forgot that I really like external weights. This is here to stay - I'll get a new quote and get this made ASAP.

Beautiful and perfect. Didn't get in on FJELL r1 so if this stays on schedule, count me in. While it's nice that it keeps the dimensions of the X60, it's a good thing that the T60 now has something to set it apart from the others.

Also, just curious, is the anodization on X60 and T60 soft or hard? I guess it doesn't really matter since I still don't know if my (R4??) black FMJ is soft or hard and it's completely fine, I'm just curious.

[Unforgivable]

External weight sounds good to me! It's a great idea. Would it be brass or Stainless Steel?

Any chance of making brass plates to sell as well? Probably jumping ahead of myself here, but one can dream!

On a side note, do you think you'd ever make a tray mount case with a removable top and an external weight? Kind of like the 365Mini but with standard 60%, Winkeyless, and HHKB tops?

Both materials for the weight. I'll be doing brass plates along with CF, polycarbonate, aluminum and stainless steel.

If I think tray feels as good (but different) to X60, then maybe I'll do what you suggested, but otherwise it'd be really pointless.

Are you serious? All the plates?! Woot! Any chance we could get ANSI only plates as well? So excited for brass and polycarbonate!! I'm totally in for the case, and I love the exterior weight design.

I hope you make tray versions! I just think it would be nice to have designs like the 365 mini. Don't get me wrong, X60 is perfection, but having something you can easily switch in and out with other standard plates would be really cool and different. Or X60 V2 would be awesome too! I need a Winkeyless 60% in my life! Lol.

[xondat]

Beautiful and perfect. Didn't get in on FJELL r1 so if this stays on schedule, count me in. While it's nice that it keeps the dimensions of the X60, it's a good thing that the T60 now has something to set it apart from the others.

Also, just curious, is the anodization on X60 and T60 soft or hard? I guess it doesn't really matter since I still don't know if my (R4??) black FMJ is soft or hard and it's completely fine, I'm just curious.

All "soft", I won't be doing hard as it's pointless to me.

This thought sticks with everything I'll produce: If I'm not going to use it/like it, then it won't be a thing.

Are you serious? All the plates?! Woot! Any chance we could get ANSI only plates as well? So excited for brass and polycarbonate!! I'm totally in for the case, and I love the exterior weight design.

I hope you make tray versions! I just think it would be nice to have designs like the 365 mini. Don't get me wrong, X60 is perfection, but having something you can easily switch in and out with other standard plates would be really cool and different. Or X60 V2 would be awesome too! I need a Winkeyless 60% in my life! Lol.

I plan on testing all 5 materials on X60 and cross testing them, and then after that all materials will be available. ANSI plates are the only option for now, I'll make a universal plate soon but I plan on testing with ANSI so no need to make an universal plate (I know the cutout works anyway).

X60 V2? Getting way too ahead of yourself! )

[xondat]

Getting this made:



4mm bezels all around. M1 screws. Top mounted (10 points).

I could probably use 4mm top/bottom, and 2mm side bezels, but that's pretty extreme. For reference, X60 has 8mm top/bottom, 4mm sides.

[xondat]

CNY is painful for someone that'd like a few prototypes made, so why not make even more.





This is mainly a concept of a "unibody" case (combined top/bottom) but in a small enclosure, and with no visible screws when on a desk. It also features a massive brass weight to close it all instead of something more sensible. The mounting is identical to X60, mainly so I don't have to solder another PCB together just for another project. It weighs about 2.8kg, which is about .3kg more than X60. Bezel size is the usual 8/4.

P.S. My next design won't be a rectangle.

[cribbit]

It also features a massive brass weight to close it all instead of something more sensible.

The best designs are never sensible.

[xondat]

So next production run begins any day now, they last 30 days each. Just waiting on the new X60 engraving files. In this production run there will be (April):

• X60 - Production Weights, Prototype ANSI Brass Plate, Prototype ANSI Polycarbonate Plate, Prototype ANSI-P Aluminum Plate
• X75 - Prototype Case
• T60 - Prototype Case

The production run after this will be (May):

• X60 - Production Replacements, Extra Plates
• X75 - Production Cases
• NX01 - Prototype Case

Might as well list the one after that (June):

• X75 - Potential Production Replacements, Extra Plates
• T60 - Production Cases
• NX01 - Production Cases

This doesn't account for times in between the production runs, but it's just a super rough guide. Mostly for me to have somewhere, but I guess someone will find it interesting. )

[ihalatch]

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it's too zoomed out but **** it

probably will put an IC up as I pack 60S, and launch when I'm done I guess

I'd like to buy one of those.

[xondat]

I figured this is the best place to host the competition/search.

I'm looking for ideas and ultimately a new icon logo. This icon logo will feature on all of my keyboards, websites I use, boxes and cards, and pretty much everything else. Unfortunately (as reflected in my designs), I'm not very creative which is exactly why I'm doing this.

The person that creates or inspires the icon logo that leads to being the final version will receive 1 free keyboard from any future group buy of their choice. This offer is open for as long as it takes, and the winner can claim whenever they want (lets hope I never stop).

The only thing you have to go on is that it must fit with my current designs. Apart from that, it's all open!

[aaron6301]

Awesome, I'm sure I can come up with something 

[xondat]

Got to clear up a few things:

• If a submission is a joint venture and it's obvious then you both could win
• No submission limit
• Competition is open until I find the design, so it could close really suddenly
• It's for Noxary, and not xondat
• Submission doesn't have to be pretty, you could submit a hand sketch or something done in MS paint and it could win - it's about the idea
• It must be millable/engraveable - nothing with multiple layers please!

[ArchDill]

Alright, I am a horribly designer but I would love one of your boards. And since there is no set amount of times that I can enter... Here are my first 3 submissions!

For some reason, when I think of Noxary, I think of a gear. So I started with that. The "design" on these is meant to be every letter of NOXARY all together. There is no "R" in the gear design but the other 2 have it, somewhat. These are really rough designs done in MS.
Please do not be too harsh haha

Thanks!

[Moistgun]

http://imgur.com/a/1dctu

an entry

[3K]

I did some quick sketches, trying to keep it simple and clean.

[dgneo]

Posted these on slack, xposting here

[lolpes]

Tomorrow with cad I might have a better result but right now I'll just leave the draft as an entry

[Pwner]

[Skull_Angel]

Needs some cleaning up and resizing/reshaping of elements, but I dislike screwing with MSpaint and my sketching skills are balls, haha.

[smittysteve]

Hope you like, Xondat and Noxary fans around the world!! 

[smittysteve]

Also, these were the first drafts. You can see the two I chose to work with a bit more for the above versions... However if there's something in here you like, we can modify/ refine with you. 

[xondat]

Hey, going to close this on 4/20 11:59PM BST. Make sure to submit your design by then!

[ArchDill]

There are some great pieces here! My idea was good but the execution was bad. Great job everyone!

[xondat]

There are some great pieces here! My idea was good but the execution was bad. Great job everyone!

Luckily it's the idea that matters!

[kustom3]

[ArchDill]

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Haha kicking it oldschool!

[BaconEggandCheeseBagel]

Xondat you have to use your skills towards resurrecting this Redscarf variant that never got produced!

[dgneo]

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that comic sans  :confused:

[xondat]

Xondat you have to use your skills towards resurrecting this Redscarf variant that never got produced!

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Now PCBs aren't a problem, it does mean I can consider non standard layouts. Maybe another competition/vote to decide? :D

[laughatpain]

Xondat you have to use your skills towards resurrecting this Redscarf variant that never got produced!

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Now PCBs aren't a problem, it does mean I can consider non standard layouts. Maybe another competition/vote to decide? :D

I vote for the KMAC mini layout and samwisekoi's 122 board

[xondat]

Xondat you have to use your skills towards resurrecting this Redscarf variant that never got produced!

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Now PCBs aren't a problem, it does mean I can consider non standard layouts. Maybe another competition/vote to decide? :D

I vote for the KMAC mini layout and samwisekoi's 122 board

122 is definitely happening.

[smittysteve]

Xondat you have to use your skills towards resurrecting this Redscarf variant that never got produced!

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Now PCBs aren't a problem, it does mean I can consider non standard layouts. Maybe another competition/vote to decide? :D

I vote for the KMAC mini layout and samwisekoi's 122 board

122 is definitely happening.

This is good news (if you're serious)... I for one would love to see more funky layouts come to life in quality customs. Realize it's tough because of necessary production scale and the funkier layouts will draw less folks in, but still hope to see you take a shot with things like this!

[xondat]

Xondat you have to use your skills towards resurrecting this Redscarf variant that never got produced!

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Now PCBs aren't a problem, it does mean I can consider non standard layouts. Maybe another competition/vote to decide? :D

I vote for the KMAC mini layout and samwisekoi's 122 board

122 is definitely happening.

This is good news (if you're serious)... I for one would love to see more funky layouts come to life in quality customs. Realize it's tough because of necessary production scale and the funkier layouts will draw less folks in, but still hope to see you take a shot with things like this!

Definitely serious. Obviously it won't be a large run, but it's on my list to develop properly when the time is right. Same goes for other layouts, they'll happen in smaller runs (which means the prices will be higher, but suppose it makes sense). I have a couple on my mind already, but not going to work on those until I've at least started X75.

[smittysteve]

Xondat you have to use your skills towards resurrecting this Redscarf variant that never got produced!

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Now PCBs aren't a problem, it does mean I can consider non standard layouts. Maybe another competition/vote to decide? :D

I vote for the KMAC mini layout and samwisekoi's 122 board

122 is definitely happening.

This is good news (if you're serious)... I for one would love to see more funky layouts come to life in quality customs. Realize it's tough because of necessary production scale and the funkier layouts will draw less folks in, but still hope to see you take a shot with things like this!

Definitely serious. Obviously it won't be a large run, but it's on my list to develop properly when the time is right. Same goes for other layouts, they'll happen in smaller runs (which means the prices will be higher, but suppose it makes sense). I have a couple on my mind already, but not going to work on those until I've at least started X75.

Sweet! This is really exciting to hear and in my opinion, a nice niche to fill. You definitely have the design chops to put these things together, so I'll be eager to see what happens after the X75!  :thumb:

[aaron6301]

Badges and Squares

[xondat]

Noxay - Badge Edition

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This... is a curveball. I was leaning towards a design, and then this comes in :eek:

[smittysteve]

Badges and Squares

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Nice work, man... really solid designs! 

[Badwrench]

Noxay - Badge Edition

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This... is a curveball. I was leaning towards a design, and then this comes in :eek:

I really like that middle badge design.  That would look killer on a board.   :thumb:

[aaron6301]

Nice work, man... really solid designs! 

I really like that middle badge design.  That would look killer on a board.   

Thanks guys!

[Vladimir]

An ambigram

[xondat]

I'll say it now just in case people want to update things or whatever - there have been a lot of submission that I would consider text logos, or more easily put, not icon logos. It means a lot are immediately not considered which is unfortunate because some are good if I was looking for text logos.

5 days left now

[3K]

I'll say it now just in case people want to update things or whatever - there have been a lot of submission that I would consider text logos, or more easily put, not icon logos. It means a lot are immediately not considered which is unfortunate because some are good if I was looking for text logos.

5 days left now

I don't know why nobody asked, but is there a kind of shape you would prefer to see, or are there details / characteristics you could imagine being part of the logo? Like something that inspired you when doing your designs / building this brand.

[xondat]

I'll say it now just in case people want to update things or whatever - there have been a lot of submission that I would consider text logos, or more easily put, not icon logos. It means a lot are immediately not considered which is unfortunate because some are good if I was looking for text logos.

5 days left now

I don't know why nobody asked, but is there a kind of shape you would prefer to see, or are there details / characteristics you could imagine being part of the logo? Like something that inspired you when doing your designs / building this brand.

Circles, hexagons, and badges (like aarons) are cool. My designs are very purposeful, nothing unnecessary or fancy. The most aesthetical thing are the engravings, but ignoring that it's the weight showing through, which isn't exactly a massive design feature )

[aaron6301]

Squared

[Vladimir]

[aaron6301]

Badge V2

[xondat]

In other news, NX01 is almost finished after another round of revisions. I don't think I can make it any thinner in any dimension with M3 screws. Couple of small peaks:





This makes X60 look thick )

[Vladimir]

[Skull_Angel]

Really digging the badges, wish I had thought of that! I'd just like to feed in some input; I think using a mirrored capital-"N" would be something to hold onto as a nod to how Xondat came up with "Noxary".

[aaron6301]

Badge dump. They're all very similar, only slight variations between each logo.

[xtrafrood]

Badge dump. They're all very similar, only slight variations between each logo.

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[Unforgivable]

In other news, NX01 is almost finished after another round of revisions. I don't think I can make it any thinner in any dimension with M3 screws. Couple of small peaks:

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This makes X60 look thick )

Is this the TKL?!

Hype!!!

[xondat]

In other news, NX01 is almost finished after another round of revisions. I don't think I can make it any thinner in any dimension with M3 screws. Couple of small peaks:

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This makes X60 look thick )

Is this the TKL?!

Hype!!!

Is it?

I made it thinner!







X60 for comparison on the left, NX01 on the right.

[3K]

I tried some more ideas too, focussing on hexagons!

[aaron6301]

The divide 

[kiwi99]

never posted my logo here so y not

[ArchDill]

I think it is clear who the winner is here... haha

[aaron6301]

Letterpress boxes would be awesome, just saying.

[xondat]

About 23 hours left now, make sure to get your submission in!

[kenmai9]

Letterpress boxes would be awesome, just saying.

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just deleting the competition at this point

[xondat]

Whilst waiting for production, I took to keysets to make something similar to wodan's GMK ISO-International ESSENTIALS but for the whole keyset. Often keysets are missing some keys when they are going through the IC phase, or even missing some after launching. The idea behind this project was to cover all known keyboards, and also to have a base that someone can work from easily.



Group 1

• White - Base
• Pink - Non-Standard
• Yellow - HHKB
• Green - 65/75%
• Blue - 1800
• Violet - Unusuals

Group 2

• Orange - ISO Base
• Green - ISO "International Essentials"
• Turquiose - ISO Others
• Blue? - Spacebar Kit

I've split all the keys into 2 groups, and in those groups, further categories relating to layouts. The idea is that you take Group 1 as a baseline, and Group 2 can be an additional kit. Group 1 is self explanatory, whilst Group 2 is mainly wodan's essentials, plus some spacebars.

I'm aware some molds might not exist (such as R3 Pg Up & R4 Pg Dn in GMK), and it changes depending on manufacturer/profile so its just best to put all keys into one big set.

If I got anything wrong, or I'm missing something from Group 1 or the Spacebar Kit, please let me know.

[smittysteve]

My final attempts... enjoy. Thanks again for opening up the competition, Xondat. Great entries throughout the thread- going to be a tough decision! 

[cortz]

hello, usually lurking but thought this was fun to try.

wish i saw it earlier but here's what I could muster in the short amount of time left.

your stuff seem's very rigid and utilitarian, so I went for something that felt sturdy and reliable.
the angled stroke's are at an 8 degree angle (sideways of course) to help tie back into your board designs.




this one's a bit more abstract, but again, playing with the 8 degree angles.
it's a little looser but everything is consistent so it should fit together seamlessly in a way, mimicking the DIY aspect.



hope you enjoy!

[xondat]

Competition closed! Thank you everyone for the submissions; there were some really strong ones that make it harder for me to decide. I'll be announcing the winner(s) soon, along with the final version.

[Vladimir]

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I think I've seen this somewhere else...

Competition closed! Thank you everyone for the submissions; there were some really strong ones that make it harder for me to decide. I'll be announcing the winner(s) soon, along with the final version.

Well then, you surely have some great options. :)
Now let's see wich badge do you choose.

[xondat]

I think I've chosen a winner! Going to work on refining it to a finished, engrave-able logo now.

In other news, big week. Production finally ends for X60, so all parts will make their way over. The X75 sample is also shipping with X60 production parts.

And finally, here is a picture of what I've been working on today:

[aaron6301]

So who won?

[SixtyLife]

I think I've chosen a winner! Going to work on refining it to a finished, engrave-able logo now.

In other news, big week. Production finally ends for X60, so all parts will make their way over. The X75 sample is also shipping with X60 production parts.

And finally, here is a picture of what I've been working on today:

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oh **** vea without the f-row... was hoping someone would make this!

[xondat]

Updated this a bit. I've removed the icon R1 1u backspace, added some other keys, and created a whole new category (cyan). Colors represent the following groups/categories:
Group 1

• White - Base
• Red - Non-Standard/WKL
• Orange - HHKB
• Yellow - 1800
• Green - 65/75%
• Purple - Unusuals
• Cyan - Interchangeables

Group 2

• Pink - ISO Base
• Blue - ISO "International Essentials"
• Violet - ISO Alts
• Gray - Spacebar Kit

The new category, cyan, is meant to show things that can be interchangeable. Keysets could have, for example: FJ Bars + Menu, FJ Scoops + Menu, FJ Bars + Scoops + Menu, etc.

As always, please let me know if I'm missing anything.

[dgneo]

I think I've chosen a winner!

pls lad

[xondat]

I left in a duplicate key in the HHKB group by accident, so I've removed it (it was the ~` key).



If you are using a uniform profile, here is what you need (it's just removing the nav key extensions).



The next update of this, I'll cover kits, but I honestly think they're a terrible idea and will never suit the majority of people.

KITS:

• White - 60%
• Red - TKL
• Orange - Numpad + Extras
• Yellow - Compatibility (HHKB, WKL, HHKB, 1800)
• Pale Yellow - Compatibility for non-uniform keysets (65%/75%)
• Cyan - Alternates, creator decides
• Light Green - ISO Base
• Dark Green - ISO "International Essentials"
• Gray - Spacebars

[kenmai9]

I think I've chosen a winner! Going to work on refining it to a finished, engrave-able logo now.

In other news, big week. Production finally ends for X60, so all parts will make their way over. The X75 sample is also shipping with X60 production parts.

And finally, here is a picture of what I've been working on today:

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this is actually pretty tite. dunno about the cluster on the left though. but still cool.

[xondat]

I haven't forgotten about the logo competition! Should have final mockups coming in in the next few days; just been refining the logo so it looks good at whatever size.

I'll be updating this thread with the new projects & more details for others that are coming up once I get the X60 production & X75 prototype. There will be a couple of extremely limited boards, a new series, and more details on one more.

Stay tuned

[xondat]

Feel like this is my best render yet, so guess I'll share it.

[Pwner]

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Feel like this is my best render yet, so guess I'll share it.

Looking good dude.  :thumb:

[MNZT]

Letterpress boxes would be awesome, just saying.

[snip]

This'd be beautiful.

[xondat]

Happy 1 year to this thread!

I think now is the best time to reveal who has won the logo competition. I was waiting for some transparent background versions for my website, but now just feels like the best time. Sorry it took so long, but I'm happy to say the outcome is perfect in my eyes.

The winner is cortz! The second mockup he showed really caught me by surprise. It needed changing slightly, but what I envisioned when I first saw his mockup was pretty much what the logo is now.

this one's a bit more abstract, but again, playing with the 8 degree angles.
it's a little looser but everything is consistent so it should fit together seamlessly in a way, mimicking the DIY aspect.

This was his mockup/idea. And here is the finished logo:



I'd like to thank everyone that entered, there were some really solid entries that had seriously considered.

You can see the logo in use on Instagram and later the website, although I'm finishing that off.

[smittysteve]

Dude- that is a SWEET logo!!! I love it, super simple and classy and still interesting. Thanks for running the open contest- it was fun to think of logos and huge congrats to cortz!!

And happy 1 year. Looking forward to seeing what comes forth from Noxary year two!