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Title: 4x12 fun with original layout
Post by: decker on Tue, 29 March 2016, 16:12:05
Just having fun with layout ideas.
I tried to fit letters based on mixed frequency (English+French+Spanish formula).
Had a hard time defining what were the better positions for higher frequency letters though.

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Any thoughts ?
Do you have links to studies which explain where should the most frequent letters go on a keyboard ?
Title: Re: 4x12 fun with original layout
Post by: steve.v on Tue, 29 March 2016, 22:03:10
http://patorjk.com/keyboard-layout-analyzer/#/main
english
Title: Re: 4x12 fun with original layout
Post by: decker on Wed, 30 March 2016, 01:24:51
Cool thanks,
If I understand correctly the heat map of the optimal layout proposed by the website algorithm, the priority is this :

left hand before right hand, alternating

home middle finger
home index
home ring finger
home centered index
home little finger

up index
up middle finger
up ring finger

down index (down centered index on right side, then down right index)

the rest kind of beats any pattern... I'll have to look at it more in detail.