Exceedingly rare IBM Model F variants are worth several times the price of new Topre keyboards.
Agree. How many known F77s are floating about? Less than ten? They're rarer than Kishsavers.0
-ISO is far superior to ANSI → since keyboard width is narrower than shoulder width, hands naturally angle inward, and the extra top space on ISO Enter comes in handy (have used both ISO and ANSI equally for the last decade)
-if you prefer tenkeyless to full, you need more math in your life
-purely on form factor alone, M2's are superior to Model M's. F's are fine, because they're like that strange looking face you can't stop staring at.
Are you smoking crack? I have large hands; I can hit ANSI enter without moving my fingers from the home postion. I can't hit any part of ISO enter without moving my entire hand.
Agreed on second point. Gimme mah numbarz
Fs have some weird form factors. Like the one I'm using where I had to make my keyboard tray wider to still fit a mouse on there. XD
Keyboards that bent the plate as a case looks horrible to me.
I don't like Hyperfuse and Penumbra keyset.
Agreed on bent plate.
Hyperfuse is great in theory but the sets I've seen photos of were incredibly meh. :< Penumbra is ugly.
You numb pad lovers need to learn to type properly. It's much faster/efficient and more "ergo" to use the number row.
http://www.typing-lessons.org/preliminaries_1.html
How's that for an unpopular opinion?
Given the difficulty of reaching the number row, it's pretty unpopular with me. Number row requires reaching or repositioning anyway and the use of both hands. Numpad just requires moving one hand a bit to the right, where it can easily operate by itself quickly and efficiently. As a bonus on QWERTY, if you need to put in Hex, A-F are all on the left hand that's still over on the main section. Embeded numbers on an actually ergo board or a matrix board would be even better from the standpoint of people who don't want their hands to move ever, but between number row and numberpad, giving a less-used hand something to do that it can do quickly and efficiently by itself beats reaching and overworking my left hand even more. It takes me almost no more time to move my hand to the numpad than it does to move to hit the number row, so bah to the number row.
The number pad on computer keyboards is upside down. It should go in the same order as a telephone.
And for you programmers:
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Telephones are upside down. The progression from 0 at the bottom to 9 at the top makes perfect sense and puts 1 and 0 next to each other. It's a holdover from calculators and one of the very few sensible things on keyboards. ;)
The Miami set is hideous.
Preach it, brother. The teal is nice, but that hot pink, oof.
Having a numpad in a little square is stupid. It should be something like:
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(Don�t worry too much about the precise shape here, just the general idea.)
I prefer a separate numpad, but between this and the number row, this is much better by far.
Anyway, it�s really not worth arguing about. MX switches and MX clones are crappy switches even at their best, and take ridiculous amounts of modding work to turn into something pleasant. We should all just collectively move on.
I kind of like stock clears and blue/greens, but given the number of other switches that feel much better(Most Alps/Matias, buckling spring, random old switches like marquadt butterfly), I have to kind of agree. The only downside is of course keycap sets. (Which has been solved on Topre now. Alps... Exists but is imperfect and apparently breaks off in key stems easily, and buckling spring isn't AFAIK even being looked at, though curved plates would make that odd for anything but DSA/Row 3 SA anyway.)