Post by: FLFrostBite on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:15:46
(https://i.imgur.com/aaZo6fN.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/835YZOh.png)
Hey everyone!
I'm proud to introduce to you a project that I've been working on for the last few months: GMK Nichirin
This set is inspired by Tanjirou and Nezuko from Demon Slayer and attempts to portray the characters in the best way possible by combining colors and tones that relate to the characters and anime, while still being aesthetically pleasing and easy on the eyes.
Kitting for this set is similar to a few others that I have seen lately with a few minor changes! For example, the accented and base colored F13 keys!
It would be greatly appreciated if you could fill out the Google Form (https://forms.gle/8vaY6pJnYymjJBu67)
For further discussion or feedback directly to me, feel free to join the discord server for GMK Nichirin! (https://discord.gg/haDdPkt)
Kits:
(https://i.imgur.com/i6ZqRoB.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/8ysHmfL.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/R9H8OLP.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/RNlnLAL.png)
Renders:
En-Dash | Finder Works
(https://i.imgur.com/VMiJb5r.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/cXKOq6q.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/huweOSv.png)
Gemini | J2 Mechs
(https://i.imgur.com/8PuLEHJ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/LdH0UzZ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/835YZOh.png)
Massive Thanks To:
Rensuya - Kitting
Banshii - Novelties
Abec13 - Renders
Kingk22 - Renders
002 - Feedback on colors and the initial idea for the set!
(https://i.imgur.com/835YZOh.png)
Hey everyone!
I'm proud to introduce to you a project that I've been working on for the last few months: GMK Nichirin
This set is inspired by Tanjirou and Nezuko from Demon Slayer and attempts to portray the characters in the best way possible by combining colors and tones that relate to the characters and anime, while still being aesthetically pleasing and easy on the eyes.
Kitting for this set is similar to a few others that I have seen lately with a few minor changes! For example, the accented and base colored F13 keys!
It would be greatly appreciated if you could fill out the Google Form (https://forms.gle/8vaY6pJnYymjJBu67)
For further discussion or feedback directly to me, feel free to join the discord server for GMK Nichirin! (https://discord.gg/haDdPkt)
Kits:
(https://i.imgur.com/i6ZqRoB.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/8ysHmfL.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/R9H8OLP.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/RNlnLAL.png)
Renders:
En-Dash | Finder Works
(https://i.imgur.com/VMiJb5r.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/cXKOq6q.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/huweOSv.png)
Gemini | J2 Mechs
(https://i.imgur.com/8PuLEHJ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/LdH0UzZ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/835YZOh.png)
Massive Thanks To:
Rensuya - Kitting
Banshii - Novelties
Abec13 - Renders
Kingk22 - Renders
002 - Feedback on colors and the initial idea for the set!
Post by: Rensuya on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:17:12
But for real it looks amazing, great job! :thumb:
Post by: nickaster1 on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:18:20
Post by: Raravin on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:18:50
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UXwdp0N.png)
But for real it looks amazing, great job! :thumb:
Is this the Mizu Guy?
Post by: fropsie on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:21:02
Post by: DuellM on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:21:20
. I’m so in for this. Can’t wait to see what you come up with for a Rama cap if you decide to have one.
Post by: subluxe on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:22:22
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:23:01
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.
But isn't it just an IC anyway?
It's as simple as -- if people don't wanna support the theme, then they should just not buy into it.
If enough people are sick of "weeb sets", then surely they wouldn't go through.
Post by: Kokaloo on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:28:00
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.The best way to combat something you'd like to see less is to ignore it.
Post by: CAZ on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:28:21
Post by: abrokencondom on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:34:11
The aesthetics I most enjoyed from that anime though, is the character design of Shinobu (that butterfly aesthetic), and Nezuko (cute demon loli), and the great vfx of the water techniques and fire dance in episode 19.
Post by: Banshii on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:37:38
Post by: nasp on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:42:34
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.
(http://i.imgur.com/zgDcI9W.jpg) (https://imgur.com/zgDcI9W)
Post by: wyrm on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:46:01
I think the question isn't whether or not there are too many Weeb Keysets, but why haven't these weebs yet properly templated all their keysets so that all weebs get what they want out of these sets. Alphas that no one even has installed with a mat you can't show in public from a show that's overrated.
Post by: gophex on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:50:16
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:53:53
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UXwdp0N.png)
But for real it looks amazing, great job! :thumb:
Is this the Mizu Guy?
No, I'm pretty sure THIS is the Mizu guy ↓
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532401422684127233/695375782528417823/unknown.png)
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:54:02
Post by: dantambok on Thu, 02 April 2020, 21:57:06
Post by: Obamas Mama on Thu, 02 April 2020, 22:05:37
Post by: nickaster1 on Thu, 02 April 2020, 22:13:16
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.I’ll just say that this is among the few sets that put the weeb legends into their correct context. Others were just bandwagoning. But that’s their business and I ended up not joining. I suggest you do the same.
Post by: Rensuya on Thu, 02 April 2020, 22:13:20
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UXwdp0N.png)
But for real it looks amazing, great job! :thumb:
Is this the Mizu Guy?
No, I'm pretty sure THIS is the Mizu guy ↓Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532401422684127233/695375782528417823/unknown.png)
Sir, I am not that out of shape.
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Thu, 02 April 2020, 22:14:01
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UXwdp0N.png)
But for real it looks amazing, great job! :thumb:
Is this the Mizu Guy?
No, I'm pretty sure THIS is the Mizu guy ↓Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532401422684127233/695375782528417823/unknown.png)
Sir, I am not that out of shape.
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
Post by: subluxe on Thu, 02 April 2020, 22:22:00
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.
I mean, maybe there's a reason there's so many? People want this stuff them self, and it's obvious a lot of other people like sets like these. Darling, Noel, Metaverse etc.
Post by: Wanchnn on Thu, 02 April 2020, 22:27:33
P.S. I love this set but I have too many hiragana keysets. Thanks
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 02 April 2020, 22:30:07
Post by: pengoot02 on Thu, 02 April 2020, 22:33:55
Post by: zekkin on Thu, 02 April 2020, 22:52:59
Hanafuda, not Hanafura.
Post by: BapoDonu on Fri, 03 April 2020, 02:32:31
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.What's wrong with that?
Post by: BapoDonu on Fri, 03 April 2020, 03:23:50
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/666829239999528960/695549880789106708/original.gif)
Post by: KKoNaM on Fri, 03 April 2020, 03:35:30
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 03 April 2020, 08:11:22
geekhack? more like weebhack :(
We can always seek refuge on deskthority. Truth be told, I'm very surprised most of the weeb sets aren't IC'd on reddit instead - then again, there have been a few (including this one) where the OP has like 5 posts so I suppose they effectively may as well be.
Lightning is right though, clearly there's some overlap between both hobbies and the themes appeal to a decent amount of users; if the market really does become oversaturated then the fad will die down soon enough, and if it doesn't then weeb sets will keep popping up and people will continue to like them and buy them - which is completely fine, it's not like they're taking away from other projects and the more people are involved in keyboards as a whole the better it is for everyone long term.
Post by: EnjoyMyInSec on Fri, 03 April 2020, 08:30:42
Post by: ptrick3 on Fri, 03 April 2020, 11:55:29
Could the Moon Set get a second 'B' for all the alice users out there :3
second. I'd also enjoy accent small spacebars, but not the end of the world if there's just small black spacebars and a B.
Post by: Rensuya on Fri, 03 April 2020, 14:59:27
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UXwdp0N.png)
But for real it looks amazing, great job! :thumb:
Is this the Mizu Guy?
No, I'm pretty sure THIS is the Mizu guy ↓Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532401422684127233/695375782528417823/unknown.png)
Sir, I am not that out of shape.
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
If this is Wendy's, then I guess I am that wide.
Post by: FLFrostBite on Sat, 04 April 2020, 12:23:56
Looks really cool.
Hanafuda, not Hanafura.
Fixed! Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't noticed it!
Post by: noorejji on Sat, 04 April 2020, 17:59:11
Edit:
Ignoring things that don’t strictly appeal to one's particular sensibilities seem to be a skill.
Post by: wil on Sat, 04 April 2020, 22:30:00
Post by: kolyz on Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:58:50
Post by: Piwi on Wed, 20 May 2020, 13:08:34
Post by: Blvck.- on Wed, 20 May 2020, 13:53:10
Post by: Missingnumber on Wed, 20 May 2020, 16:51:40
But at least it's got the 「 」 。. 、punctuation sublegends. Not all sets have those. No ¥ though.
For constructive feedback, I think most of those novelties have lines too thin and detailed to work. You might want to make them a bit bolder.
Post by: FLFrostBite on Wed, 20 May 2020, 23:14:40
any updates on this set?
Updates coming hopefully soon!! Just waiting on some income first before I can get some more renders made. Corona has this project currently at a sort of standstill, unfortunately. I’m just hoping that something will come soon so that I can get a real update going on this thing. Thanks for the interest!!!
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Wed, 20 May 2020, 23:40:37
Another day, another set with weird-ass hiragana placement designed for people that can't read it but think it looks cool. This trend really reminds me of people that have Japanese tattoos.
But at least it's got the 「 」 。. 、punctuation sublegends. Not all sets have those. No ¥ though.
For constructive feedback, I think most of those novelties have lines too thin and detailed to work. You might want to make them a bit bolder.
The current version of the hiragana sublegends are an adaptation to the ANSI layout. Perhaps you're not familiar with the history. Originally, a designer named MiTo created the first set of GMK sublegends, disappointingly, for the sake of "aesthetics" on GMK Laser. (He kind of has a history now of doing this with various languages.) They were borderline unusable for writing using hiragana, since they lacked both punctuation and furigana. These were later fixed by Zambumon for GMK Serika so that they were at least useable, and here we are.
Therefore, simply dropping ¥ into its typical position for JIS would cause issues with other legends, namely backspace. Simply converting the entire top row to JIS doesn't make sense either, since multiple legends rely on the placement of others in the righthand R1-4 cluster.
Here are some of the keys which are different from our current Hiragana sublegend layout that will need to be made to make JIS a reality.
(https://i.imgur.com/h1IVcVY.png)
Proper GMK JIS support will require somewhere in the neighborhood of 20+ new molds, the tooling for which is expensive. It's not just about the alphas either, since the modifier keys and spacebar are also important.
This is something that a number of people in the community are working on, and implementing GMK JIS compatiblity is something I'd personally like to do in future sets.
However, no matter who implements it, JIS will require commitments from vendors and community support to help those kits reach MOQ so that the tooling can exist for any designer to use.
Post by: udller on Thu, 21 May 2020, 00:03:39
Post by: Agilr on Thu, 21 May 2020, 00:19:59
JIS compatibility is actually something I had considered when designing Noel, but talking to the Japanese community (cheers 2Moons), we came across a similar predicament as well.Another day, another set with weird-ass hiragana placement designed for people that can't read it but think it looks cool. This trend really reminds me of people that have Japanese tattoos.
But at least it's got the 「 」 。. 、punctuation sublegends. Not all sets have those. No ¥ though.
For constructive feedback, I think most of those novelties have lines too thin and detailed to work. You might want to make them a bit bolder.
The current version of the hiragana sublegends are an adaptation to the ANSI layout. Perhaps you're not familiar with the history. Originally, a designer named MiTo created the first set of GMK sublegends, disappointingly, for the sake of "aesthetics" on GMK Laser. (He kind of has a history now of doing this with various languages.) They were borderline unusable for writing using hiragana, since they lacked both punctuation and furigana. These were later fixed by Zambumon for GMK Serika so that they were at least useable, and here we are.
Therefore, simply dropping ¥ into its typical position for JIS would cause issues with other legends, namely backspace. Simply converting the entire top row to JIS doesn't make sense either, since multiple legends rely on the placement of others in the righthand R1-4 cluster.
Here are some of the keys which are different from our current Hiragana sublegend layout that will need to be made to make JIS a reality.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h1IVcVY.png)
Proper GMK JIS support will require somewhere in the neighborhood of 20+ new molds, the tooling for which is expensive. It's not just about the alphas either, since the modifier keys and spacebar are also important.
This is something that a number of people in the community are working on, and implementing GMK JIS compatiblity is something I'd personally like to do in future sets.
However, no matter who implements it, JIS will require commitments from vendors and community support to help those kits reach MOQ so that the tooling can exist for any designer to use.
Basically, you would need 25 new moulds (exclude the ISO) to cover the majority of popular Japanese layouts (including JIS and split boards).
(https://i.imgur.com/5AFVDYJ.jpg)
Not only would this cost a lot of money to produce, but as far as I'm aware of, some of these options aren't even offered by GMK (4u and 4.5u spacebars, 3u was offered recently). You could reduce the upfront costs by pairing it with a large base kit and having a higher MOQ, but this would most likely be a massive deterrent for both communities as it'd still be way more than a standard base kit.
Hope to bring some insight to the case, as honestly, I only see hiragana subs as an aesthetic choice. Even with 'double-subbing', it is still incorrect which makes me believe it's just an aesthetic choice more than anything else, even if it's 'more correct'.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 21 May 2020, 00:46:54
JIS compatibility is actually something I had considered when designing Noel, but talking to the Japanese community (cheers 2Moons), we came across a similar predicament as well.Another day, another set with weird-ass hiragana placement designed for people that can't read it but think it looks cool. This trend really reminds me of people that have Japanese tattoos.
But at least it's got the 「 」 。. 、punctuation sublegends. Not all sets have those. No ¥ though.
For constructive feedback, I think most of those novelties have lines too thin and detailed to work. You might want to make them a bit bolder.
The current version of the hiragana sublegends are an adaptation to the ANSI layout. Perhaps you're not familiar with the history. Originally, a designer named MiTo created the first set of GMK sublegends, disappointingly, for the sake of "aesthetics" on GMK Laser. (He kind of has a history now of doing this with various languages.) They were borderline unusable for writing using hiragana, since they lacked both punctuation and furigana. These were later fixed by Zambumon for GMK Serika so that they were at least useable, and here we are.
Therefore, simply dropping ¥ into its typical position for JIS would cause issues with other legends, namely backspace. Simply converting the entire top row to JIS doesn't make sense either, since multiple legends rely on the placement of others in the righthand R1-4 cluster.
Here are some of the keys which are different from our current Hiragana sublegend layout that will need to be made to make JIS a reality.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h1IVcVY.png)
Proper GMK JIS support will require somewhere in the neighborhood of 20+ new molds, the tooling for which is expensive. It's not just about the alphas either, since the modifier keys and spacebar are also important.
This is something that a number of people in the community are working on, and implementing GMK JIS compatiblity is something I'd personally like to do in future sets.
However, no matter who implements it, JIS will require commitments from vendors and community support to help those kits reach MOQ so that the tooling can exist for any designer to use.
Basically, you would need 25 new moulds (exclude the ISO) to cover the majority of popular Japanese layouts (including JIS and split boards).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5AFVDYJ.jpg)
Not only would this cost a lot of money to produce, but as far as I'm aware of, some of these options aren't even offered by GMK (4u and 4.5u spacebars, 3u was offered recently). You could reduce the upfront costs by pairing it with a large base kit and having a higher MOQ, but this would most likely be a massive deterrent for both communities as it'd still be way more than a standard base kit.
Hope to bring some insight to the case, as honestly, I only see hiragana subs as an aesthetic choice. Even with 'double-subbing', it is still incorrect which makes me believe it's just an aesthetic choice more than anything else, even if it's 'more correct'.
the weebs would pay for it
just call it "true samurai" or "ahegao" or something and they'll shell out
(this is actually a very insightful post thank you for sharing)
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Thu, 21 May 2020, 01:18:37
JIS compatibility is actually something I had considered when designing Noel, but talking to the Japanese community (cheers 2Moons), we came across a similar predicament as well.Another day, another set with weird-ass hiragana placement designed for people that can't read it but think it looks cool. This trend really reminds me of people that have Japanese tattoos.
But at least it's got the 「 」 。. 、punctuation sublegends. Not all sets have those. No ¥ though.
For constructive feedback, I think most of those novelties have lines too thin and detailed to work. You might want to make them a bit bolder.
The current version of the hiragana sublegends are an adaptation to the ANSI layout. Perhaps you're not familiar with the history. Originally, a designer named MiTo created the first set of GMK sublegends, disappointingly, for the sake of "aesthetics" on GMK Laser. (He kind of has a history now of doing this with various languages.) They were borderline unusable for writing using hiragana, since they lacked both punctuation and furigana. These were later fixed by Zambumon for GMK Serika so that they were at least useable, and here we are.
Therefore, simply dropping ¥ into its typical position for JIS would cause issues with other legends, namely backspace. Simply converting the entire top row to JIS doesn't make sense either, since multiple legends rely on the placement of others in the righthand R1-4 cluster.
Here are some of the keys which are different from our current Hiragana sublegend layout that will need to be made to make JIS a reality.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h1IVcVY.png)
Proper GMK JIS support will require somewhere in the neighborhood of 20+ new molds, the tooling for which is expensive. It's not just about the alphas either, since the modifier keys and spacebar are also important.
This is something that a number of people in the community are working on, and implementing GMK JIS compatiblity is something I'd personally like to do in future sets.
However, no matter who implements it, JIS will require commitments from vendors and community support to help those kits reach MOQ so that the tooling can exist for any designer to use.
Basically, you would need 25 new moulds (exclude the ISO) to cover the majority of popular Japanese layouts (including JIS and split boards).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5AFVDYJ.jpg)
Not only would this cost a lot of money to produce, but as far as I'm aware of, some of these options aren't even offered by GMK (4u and 4.5u spacebars, 3u was offered recently). You could reduce the upfront costs by pairing it with a large base kit and having a higher MOQ, but this would most likely be a massive deterrent for both communities as it'd still be way more than a standard base kit.
Hope to bring some insight to the case, as honestly, I only see hiragana subs as an aesthetic choice. Even with 'double-subbing', it is still incorrect which makes me believe it's just an aesthetic choice more than anything else, even if it's 'more correct'.
Oh hey Agilr!
2Moons is a real champ, though we haven't spoken in a while because I've been super busy with college work. Thanks for posting that full kit, I'd temporarily lost my link to the KLE.
Even if the subs are for theme or aesthetic reasons, IMHO it's better that they are at least functional or "more" correct than they once were.
I still hope this will happen one day.
Post by: FLFrostBite on Thu, 21 May 2020, 08:53:17
the kits would be nicer with a r2 rage up and a r3 page down for greater 65% board coverage
There actually are these keys! They’re near the accented arrows in the base kit!
Post by: kolyz on Thu, 21 May 2020, 09:20:09
any updates on this set?
Updates coming hopefully soon!! Just waiting on some income first before I can get some more renders made. Corona has this project currently at a sort of standstill, unfortunately. I’m just hoping that something will come soon so that I can get a real update going on this thing. Thanks for the interest!!!
Yeah, I totally understand the delay because of covid. I'm a big fan of Demon Slayer so naturally, I'm super interested with this set :thumb: Thanks for the update.
Post by: Missingnumber on Thu, 21 May 2020, 10:34:02
JIS compatibility is actually something I had considered when designing Noel, but talking to the Japanese community (cheers 2Moons), we came across a similar predicament as well.Another day, another set with weird-ass hiragana placement designed for people that can't read it but think it looks cool. This trend really reminds me of people that have Japanese tattoos.
But at least it's got the 「 」 。. 、punctuation sublegends. Not all sets have those. No ¥ though.
For constructive feedback, I think most of those novelties have lines too thin and detailed to work. You might want to make them a bit bolder.
The current version of the hiragana sublegends are an adaptation to the ANSI layout. Perhaps you're not familiar with the history. Originally, a designer named MiTo created the first set of GMK sublegends, disappointingly, for the sake of "aesthetics" on GMK Laser. (He kind of has a history now of doing this with various languages.) They were borderline unusable for writing using hiragana, since they lacked both punctuation and furigana. These were later fixed by Zambumon for GMK Serika so that they were at least useable, and here we are.
Therefore, simply dropping ¥ into its typical position for JIS would cause issues with other legends, namely backspace. Simply converting the entire top row to JIS doesn't make sense either, since multiple legends rely on the placement of others in the righthand R1-4 cluster.
Here are some of the keys which are different from our current Hiragana sublegend layout that will need to be made to make JIS a reality.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h1IVcVY.png)
Proper GMK JIS support will require somewhere in the neighborhood of 20+ new molds, the tooling for which is expensive. It's not just about the alphas either, since the modifier keys and spacebar are also important.
This is something that a number of people in the community are working on, and implementing GMK JIS compatiblity is something I'd personally like to do in future sets.
However, no matter who implements it, JIS will require commitments from vendors and community support to help those kits reach MOQ so that the tooling can exist for any designer to use.
Basically, you would need 25 new moulds (exclude the ISO) to cover the majority of popular Japanese layouts (including JIS and split boards).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5AFVDYJ.jpg)
Not only would this cost a lot of money to produce, but as far as I'm aware of, some of these options aren't even offered by GMK (4u and 4.5u spacebars, 3u was offered recently). You could reduce the upfront costs by pairing it with a large base kit and having a higher MOQ, but this would most likely be a massive deterrent for both communities as it'd still be way more than a standard base kit.
Hope to bring some insight to the case, as honestly, I only see hiragana subs as an aesthetic choice. Even with 'double-subbing', it is still incorrect which makes me believe it's just an aesthetic choice more than anything else, even if it's 'more correct'.
I appreciate everyone taking the time to respond to my rant! I joined the forum five months ago, and when I first joined I thought there was a big overlap between linguists and keyboard enthusiasts. But it's 95% weebs that can't read what they're buying, and so many people call for kana sublegends on every damn set. One of my favorite sets, Sumi, went from having the base be Latin to entirely removing a Latin-only option. While I will never use kana input when typing in Japanese, seeing the odd placement for characters bugs me. Sets not including keys I would actually benefit from when typing in Japanese makes it worse. (The punctuation which this set includes, ひらがな・カタカナ, 半角・全角)
I understand now that full JIS compatibility is probably not going to happen, and I can agree with the reasons. Without any supporting PCBs it wouldn't make sense anyway. However, the current sublegend layout can be improved for む、ろ、and ー which I see people are working on.
I don't understand the argument against the ￥ key though. On an ANSI board with the Windows IME it is default to the \| key. On a JIS layout it is close to the same location along with the same | symbol. Also, when Windows is set to Japan region the \ character is replaced with ￥ on the command line. So it makes sense to me for a Japanese kit sold to ANSI users for the \| key to have a top-right sublegend of ￥.
Post by: noorejji on Thu, 21 May 2020, 11:47:52
Post by: Yeoh on Thu, 21 May 2020, 13:00:34
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.The best way to combat something you'd like to see less is to ignore it.
Thats terrible advice. Literally what has ever been defeated by being ignored? This degenerative weeb trend is a menace to our community and it should be stamped out forcefully and without mercy - much like ISO.
geekhack? more like weebhack :(
We can always seek refuge on deskthority. Truth be told, I'm very surprised most of the weeb sets aren't IC'd on reddit instead - then again, there have been a few (including this one) where the OP has like 5 posts so I suppose they effectively may as well be.
Lightning is right though, clearly there's some overlap between both hobbies and the themes appeal to a decent amount of users; if the market really does become oversaturated then the fad will die down soon enough, and if it doesn't then weeb sets will keep popping up and people will continue to like them and buy them - which is completely fine, it's not like they're taking away from other projects and the more people are involved in keyboards as a whole the better it is for everyone long term.
If they werent adding to gmk's clogged production line and wearing down shared molds for non-degen sets I would agree with you.
Post by: Missingnumber on Thu, 21 May 2020, 13:06:07
The point of most keysets that aren't in any way plain nor classic, are based on specific themes and aesthetics. It is what it is with how history played out on the creation of the current molds. I can see your points of frustration, but going into this topic with an elitist tone won't benefit your 'cause'. Also it's off topic, let's be real this set isn't going to pave the way for the creation of a slew of new molds.
Is correctly saying that most people that demand kana sublegends can't read them being elitist?
I ask for Latin sets, and I'm told I'm not respecting the theme. I ask people to respect the language enough to put thought in to the legends, and I'm told it's not worth the effort. Great. I respect the people working on guides at the moment, but I think the onus should be on the set creators who decide to use kana in the first place. I don't think a color scheme coming from an anime is a great justification for those sublegends.
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Thu, 21 May 2020, 13:13:50
I don't understand the argument against the ￥ key though. On an ANSI board with the Windows IME it is default to the \| key. On a JIS layout it is close to the same location along with the same | symbol. Also, when Windows is set to Japan region the \ character is replaced with ￥ on the command line. So it makes sense to me for a Japanese kit sold to ANSI users for the \| key to have a top-right sublegend of ￥.
This placement of the ¥ legend for ANSI slipped my mind, actually. It does make sense to put it on \|.
This change will require at least 2 new molds, one for standard ANSI and one for HHKB, which isn't too bad.
Three if you wish to implement it for [non-JIS] ISO users but mixing hiragana sublegends with UK/EU ISO is already an awkward affair at best and totally nonsensical at worst.
Post by: Missingnumber on Thu, 21 May 2020, 13:29:01
I don't understand the argument against the ￥ key though. On an ANSI board with the Windows IME it is default to the \| key. On a JIS layout it is close to the same location along with the same | symbol. Also, when Windows is set to Japan region the \ character is replaced with ￥ on the command line. So it makes sense to me for a Japanese kit sold to ANSI users for the \| key to have a top-right sublegend of ￥.
This placement of the ¥ legend for ANSI slipped my mind, actually. It does make sense to put it on \|.
This change will require at least 2 new molds, one for standard ANSI and one for HHKB, which isn't too bad.
Three if you wish to implement it for [non-JIS] ISO users but mixing hiragana sublegends with UK/EU ISO is already an awkward affair at best and totally nonsensical at worst.
I thought I had seen a set with that legend already. Maybe it was just the EnjoyPBT one.
Post by: FLFrostBite on Thu, 21 May 2020, 14:07:49
This whole thing has gotten me thinking of actually adding the ¥ sublegend, since it completely slipped my mind as well when making the set. I wouldn’t mind adding it, even if it meant making a couple more molds, but I’ll have to check costs first.I don't understand the argument against the ￥ key though. On an ANSI board with the Windows IME it is default to the \| key. On a JIS layout it is close to the same location along with the same | symbol. Also, when Windows is set to Japan region the \ character is replaced with ￥ on the command line. So it makes sense to me for a Japanese kit sold to ANSI users for the \| key to have a top-right sublegend of ￥.
This placement of the ¥ legend for ANSI slipped my mind, actually. It does make sense to put it on \|.
This change will require at least 2 new molds, one for standard ANSI and one for HHKB, which isn't too bad.
Three if you wish to implement it for [non-JIS] ISO users but mixing hiragana sublegends with UK/EU ISO is already an awkward affair at best and totally nonsensical at worst.
Post by: KeepCalm27 on Thu, 21 May 2020, 23:01:56
Post by: BeepBoopRobit on Tue, 01 September 2020, 00:55:35
Post by: jontseg on Tue, 01 September 2020, 03:22:01
Post by: Rayndalf on Tue, 01 September 2020, 03:30:39
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.
But isn't it just an IC anyway?
It's as simple as -- if people don't wanna support the theme, then they should just not buy into it.
If enough people are sick of "weeb sets", then surely they wouldn't go through.
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.
(http://i.imgur.com/zgDcI9W.jpg) (https://imgur.com/zgDcI9W)
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.The best way to combat something you'd like to see less is to ignore it.
I could have sworn this was a well known copypasta. Is everyone responding to it seriously or am I the one that's missing the joke?
Post by: FLFrostBite on Tue, 01 September 2020, 14:27:27
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.
But isn't it just an IC anyway?
It's as simple as -- if people don't wanna support the theme, then they should just not buy into it.
If enough people are sick of "weeb sets", then surely they wouldn't go through.Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.
(http://i.imgur.com/zgDcI9W.jpg) (https://imgur.com/zgDcI9W)Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.The best way to combat something you'd like to see less is to ignore it.
I could have sworn this was a well known copypasta. Is everyone responding to it seriously or am I the one that's missing the joke?
this was the origin of the meme.
Post by: Rayndalf on Tue, 01 September 2020, 15:05:00
Post by: gbenz on Tue, 01 September 2020, 20:04:03
Personally, I'd love to see either Tanjiro's checkerboard or Nezuko's leaf patterns incorporated in the set. I feel like they're more symbolic than maybe the fox mask or breath of water thing wave.
Post by: kwerty on Tue, 01 September 2020, 20:31:12
Post by: engyshow on Thu, 17 September 2020, 04:04:30
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Wed, 14 October 2020, 01:03:25
Post by: keebieweeb on Wed, 14 October 2020, 02:05:57
Looks neat! I also think it's pretty dark.I agree!! Tanjiro’s checkers or Nezuko’s leaf are quite defining and would definitely really round this set out. Apart from that that, this is a really nice looking set.
Personally, I'd love to see either Tanjiro's checkerboard or Nezuko's leaf patterns incorporated in the set. I feel like they're more symbolic than maybe the fox mask or breath of water thing wave.
Post by: Space_Case88 on Wed, 14 October 2020, 02:34:40
Post by: jack47 on Wed, 14 October 2020, 06:24:32
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 14 October 2020, 09:19:20
Hashira (base kit)
- The R3 #~け and \|む keys have the wrong sublegends; these should be む on R3 and ろ on R4.
Please see my visual guide (https://imgur.com/a/Y3UDiMK) to kana sublegends in ANSI-JP–based kits. - Ideally, these two keys would be changed to R3 \|む, R4 <>ろ.
See the following examples: GMK Bentō R2 (https://i.imgur.com/BIw2oxu.jpg), GMK βeta (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114733308117053/gmk_js_kit_01_base.jpg), IFK Musubi (https://i.ibb.co/ygfmWgf/musubi-Base-Final.png). - The R1 -_ほ key is missing a ー sublegend in the top right, for correct coverage of ANSI-JP layouts.
This character is a Japanese prolonged sound mark (chōonpu), not a regular dash. - The を sublegend in the top right of the R1 0)わを key should be larger.
It should be the same size as the わ sublegend below it, and larger than the small quaternary sublegends to its left (ょ, ゅ, ゃ etc.). - A second R4 1u Alt key needs to be added to the kit for Mac and OG HHKB bottom rows.
Without it, the 1.5u Super and Fn keys in the kit can't be fully utilized. - I suggest removing the numpad 00 key, for two reasons:
1) it's only really useful for standalone numpads, which are quite rare, and this set doesn't have full coverage for them anyway; and
2) the base kit is already big enough as is, any unnecessary keys that can be cut should be cut. - I recommend changing the R2 Out, R3 Read keys to R2 Pg Up, R3 Pg Dn.
The current legends are primarily used when you want to include ortho support in a base kit, but yours is in a separate kit. Also, 65% and 75% layouts are very popular, so it's advisable to offer the correct legends for these layouts.
Moons (40s kit)
- I recommend adding more staggered 40% and ortho support to this kit.
Post by: Baka Bot on Wed, 14 October 2020, 10:50:56
Post by: Z E N on Wed, 14 October 2020, 11:47:40
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.No one cares
Post by: jiggyboybrian on Wed, 14 October 2020, 15:47:19
Post by: FLFrostBite on Wed, 14 October 2020, 23:05:03
I loved this anime very much but I can't really see how the color choices show inspiration from it. Do you have any particular scenes or pictures where you mainly got the color ideas from? GLWIC!
Oh boy if only I still had the original sources. I can tell you where I got them, but as far as the original inspiration images I would have to dig through many images from months ago. I directly referenced Tanjirou’s jacket and scar from the manga illustrations for the red and the green, then found the nearest Pantone and RAL equivalent. Nezuko’s part in all this will come more whenever I’m able to find someone to render for me, but do consider her to be “in the works” more than anything else.
Post by: kolyz on Mon, 30 November 2020, 19:59:27
Post by: Havattack on Mon, 30 November 2020, 20:12:17
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.
LOL! What a silly complaint. It's not like there's anything "anime" or "weeb" about the actual keys. It's just that the COLORS chosen, can apparently be tied to some random anime. Just change the theme in your head to something you like, that happens to have the same colors.
Anywho, sorry, but i think the sets ugly.
Post by: GodOfThunder on Sun, 09 May 2021, 23:18:59
This is bomb tbh. Great work!
Doesn't even suit the theme at all. I see simple colour matching and random Demon Slayer terms used on this set
Post by: jabe8i on Mon, 10 May 2021, 01:00:55
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.
LOL! What a silly complaint. It's not like there's anything "anime" or "weeb" about the actual keys. It's just that the COLORS chosen, can apparently be tied to some random anime. Just change the theme in your head to something you like, that happens to have the same colors.
Anywho, sorry, but i think the sets ugly.
I don't really get the complaints about the weeb sets (its like they're livin in the early 2010s LOL, it seems kinda lame to be hating on anime in this decade). If someone took the same colors of anygiven weeb set and said "this set is based on the colors of a rock I found when I was 5 in japan hence the sublegends" the same people complaining about weeb **** would be okay with the theme lol. At the end of the day its about aesthetics, so if you like the colors then I dont see a problem if it's based on anime or what have you.
Post by: Cowmovie4 on Mon, 10 May 2021, 01:04:04
Could the Moon Set get a second 'B' for all the alice users out there :3
second. I'd also enjoy accent small spacebars, but not the end of the world if there's just small black spacebars and a B.
third. I may have an arisu with no second B, but I know a lot of you second B havers really care about this
The set and the theme is fantastic I love it!
Post by: vrytex on Tue, 11 May 2021, 01:38:24
Post by: Mr Chrome on Tue, 11 May 2021, 04:35:53
The Moons Kit could also use some love.
Post by: NovaRMK on Tue, 11 May 2021, 08:02:42
Love the effort behind this set, but come on... another weeb set? This isn't more-so directed to you OP, as the effort behind this is obviously there, and there is thought behind it, but I am sick of the constant IC posts themed after Animes. Its just too much at this point. People gotta tone it down a little with these constant Anime themed keyset posts. Its like every other week another one pops up.
(http://i.imgur.com/zgDcI9W.jpg) (https://imgur.com/zgDcI9W)
lmfao
on a different note, how have I not heard about this set? looks great :thumb:
Post by: Rumblethumps on Tue, 11 May 2021, 09:50:36
I loved this anime very much but I can't really see how the color choices show inspiration from it. Do you have any particular scenes or pictures where you mainly got the color ideas from? GLWIC!
Oh boy if only I still had the original sources. I can tell you where I got them, but as far as the original inspiration images I would have to dig through many images from months ago. I directly referenced Tanjirou’s jacket and scar from the manga illustrations for the red and the green, then found the nearest Pantone and RAL equivalent.
Honestly I kind of dig the more muted colors. There are a lot more bright colors in the anime, but it makes sense if it's more inspired by the manga illustrations, specifically Tanjirou's jacket and scar.
Anyway, it's been a while since any updates, I hope all is going well with this set!
Post by: Kro on Wed, 23 March 2022, 17:13:49
Post by: whitewolf154 on Wed, 23 March 2022, 18:16:16