[IC] EnjoyPBT Spectrum : In stock at kbd fans, soonTM for the other proxies

[konstantin]

1. Not a fan of that tbh.
2. For 2u Alice users can use the numpad 2u key for example.
3. Yep It can be change for the num, I'll see what i'll do about it.
4. Thanks a lot for that comment, if most ISO users think the same I'll prob change it accordingly, I was hesitating on that so no problemo for me.

Well, I really hope you'll reconsider your stance on #1, because I really like this set, but R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn (or novelties that can fill their place) are a prerequisite for me. Too many 65% boards to justify buying a set that I can't use on them (especially one that could potentially be as versatile as this). Plus, I know I'm not the only one who needs those keys.

Speaking of Num, you could also change Lock to Scroll so they match.

And by the way, I don't think EPBT does barred and scooped homing keys, only scooped+barred. At least that's how it was when I got my last few EPBT sets (Slate, BoW). So the other two F and J keys might be redundant (here's an idea: replace them with R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn ).

[EnjoyMyInSec]

Any chance of an R3 control key?

I like the CP white choice. That would make it closer to pristine than minimal or bleached right?

Stop trolling me Hopeye  )

But seriously, for all of those wondering, yes it will be different than bleached or minimal.

[rockydbull]

1. Not a fan of that tbh.
2. For 2u Alice users can use the numpad 2u key for example.
3. Yep It can be change for the num, I'll see what i'll do about it.
4. Thanks a lot for that comment, if most ISO users think the same I'll prob change it accordingly, I was hesitating on that so no problemo for me.

Well, I really hope you'll reconsider your stance on #1, because I really like this set, but R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn (or novelties that can fill their place) are a prerequisite for me. Too many 65% boards to justify buying a set that I can't use on them (especially one that could potentially be as versatile as this). Plus, I know I'm not the only one who needs those keys.



Speaking of Num, you could also change Lock to Scroll so they match.

And by the way, I don't think EPBT does barred and scooped homing keys, only scooped+barred. At least that's how it was when I got my last few EPBT sets (Slate, BoW). So the other two F and J keys might be redundant (here's an idea: replace them with R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn ).

The second F and J keys are normal keys with no scoop or bar.

[oldcat]

Any chance of an R3 control key?

I like the CP white choice. That would make it closer to pristine than minimal or bleached right?

Stop trolling me Hopeye  )

But seriously, for all of those wondering, yes it will be different than bleached or minimal.

Haha, hey bro!

Would you consider adding R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn? will be awesome to make it more attractive to 65% users. Sorry if this has been addressed.

[konstantin]

The second F and J keys are normal keys with no scoop or bar.

They look scooped in the render.

Haha, hey bro!

Would you consider adding R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn? will be awesome to make it more attractive to 65% users. Sorry if this has been addressed.

Hah, I just asked about this on top of the page

[EnjoyMyInSec]

The second F and J keys are normal keys with no scoop or bar.

They look scooped in the render.

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Haha, hey bro!

Would you consider adding R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn? will be awesome to make it more attractive to 65% users. Sorry if this has been addressed.

Hah, I just asked about this on top of the page :D

Yep sorry probably a small issue in the render sorry ahah

[yuuS0cut3]

Will R4 1u Blank appear in Additive Synthesis kit ? The render contain that key

[EnjoyMyInSec]

Will R4 1u Blank appear in Additive Synthesis kit ? The render contain that key

Nope, indeed I'm not a fan of that key, it's out of place, so I canceled that key, since it dosent fit very well

[Vireca]

Any chance to add ortho kit? I have been looking for something like this much time

[EnjoyMyInSec]

Any chance to add ortho kit? I have been looking for something like this much time

Not really, for this run at least

[EnjoyMyInSec]

Hi guys, quick update, ePBT matched the samples of GMK perfectly, here are some pics of their work ! 











I hope that you guys are happy with the results !

NB : Yes I do miss the pic of the orange, KBD fans didn't send the pic to me, I'll add it soon

[rockydbull]

Wow those colors look awesome.

[hammerbrotha]

Super excited for this set

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[alper_maestro]

Any information about the GB start date?

[ideus]

Please add a white 6u off centered space bar to the Shyntesis kit

[konstantin]

Please add a white 6u off centered space bar to the Shyntesis kit

+1, although I'd prefer centered stem slightly more.


So are the R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn a definite no, or are you still considering it?

[EnjoyMyInSec]

Please add a white 6u off centered space bar to the Shyntesis kit

+1, although I'd prefer centered stem slightly more.


So are the R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn a definite no, or are you still considering it?

- I won't add 6u because so few layouts use it, almost all 6u keyboards are topre and IMO you shouldnt use non-topre keycaps on topre, maybe it's dumb but that's how I see it.

- The R3 PgUp R4Dn is the only thing that i'm still considering changing.

- I changed the NumLock to Num as you guys suggested, it way better this way.

- The ISO Kit will remain the same since none of the ISO users besides you wanted some changes.

If you have any other questions please let me know.

For the start of the GB, it's a matter of days/weeks, I'm still in discussion with the proxies. 

[konstantin]

- I won't add 6u because so few layouts use it, almost all 6u keyboards are topre and IMO you shouldnt use non-topre keycaps on topre, maybe it's dumb but that's how I see it.

- The R3 PgUp R4Dn is the only thing that i'm still considering changing.

- I changed the NumLock to Num as you guys suggested, it way better this way.

- The ISO Kit will remain the same since none of the ISO users besides you wanted some changes.

If you have any other questions please let me know.

For the start of the GB, it's a matter of days/weeks, I'm still in discussion with the proxies. 

Sounds good, keeping my fingers crossed Have you kept Lock, or was that changed to Scroll as well?

[ideus]

Please add a white 6u off centered space bar to the Shyntesis kit

+1, although I'd prefer centered stem slightly more.


So are the R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn a definite no, or are you still considering it?

- I won't add 6u because so few layouts use it, almost all 6u keyboards are topre and IMO you shouldnt use non-topre keycaps on topre, maybe it's dumb but that's how I see it.

- The R3 PgUp R4Dn is the only thing that i'm still considering changing.

- I changed the NumLock to Num as you guys suggested, it way better this way.

- The ISO Kit will remain the same since none of the ISO users besides you wanted some changes.

If you have any other questions please let me know.

For the start of the GB, it's a matter of days/weeks, I'm still in discussion with the proxies. 

I would not insist on this if it were a standard color, but the base color is unique, and there would not be a source to get it aftermarket. Therefore the set deserves to get its 6u space bar for those that use it. I would think that there is a similar demand for split space bars than for 6u. I hope that you reconsider.

[rockydbull]

Please add a white 6u off centered space bar to the Shyntesis kit

+1, although I'd prefer centered stem slightly more.


So are the R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn a definite no, or are you still considering it?

- I won't add 6u because so few layouts use it, almost all 6u keyboards are topre and IMO you shouldnt use non-topre keycaps on topre, maybe it's dumb but that's how I see it.

- The R3 PgUp R4Dn is the only thing that i'm still considering changing.

- I changed the NumLock to Num as you guys suggested, it way better this way.

- The ISO Kit will remain the same since none of the ISO users besides you wanted some changes.

If you have any other questions please let me know.

For the start of the GB, it's a matter of days/weeks, I'm still in discussion with the proxies. 

I would not insist on this if it were a standard color, but the base color is unique, and there would not be a source to get it aftermarket. Therefore the set deserves to get its 6u space bar for those that use it. I would think that there is a similar demand for split space bars than for 6u. I hope that you reconsider.

Outside of topre boards I never see anything with a 6u bar, but I see split spacebar on dz60 and kb75 builds all the time. Then there are all the alice derivatives being pumped out by multiple vendors.

[konstantin]

Outside of topre boards I never see anything with a 6u bar, but I see split spacebar on dz60 and kb75 builds all the time. Then there are all the alice derivatives being pumped out by multiple vendors.

6u is common on 66-key MX builds, and it's sometimes seen on 60% too. But split spacebar is more common overall for sure.

[rockydbull]

Outside of topre boards I never see anything with a 6u bar, but I see split spacebar on dz60 and kb75 builds all the time. Then there are all the alice derivatives being pumped out by multiple vendors.

6u is common on 66-key MX builds, and it's sometimes seen on 60% too. But split spacebar is more common overall for sure.

Yes maybe never wasnt the right word, more like very rare. I know there was a tina case variation that used 6u. Can't say I have seen 6u on 66key mx builds.

[ideus]

If you have been here long enough you may have seen some customs that carries 6u space-bars. They peaked in 2017-2018 and then faded a bit. dz60 and some other off the shelf PCBs support the 6u space bar configuration. Yet, you may have seen most GMK sets supporting it. If you have been here just recently that may explained your view of current affairs. But it is OK, I really appreciate that you entertain the conversation.

[Zeelobby]

If you have been here long enough you may have seen some customs that carries 6u space-bars. They peaked in 2017-2018 and then faded a bit. dz60 and some other off the shelf PCBs support the 6u space bar configuration. Yet, you may have seen most GMK sets supporting it. If you have been here just recently that may explained your view of current affairs. But it is OK, I really appreciate that you entertain the conversation.

7v has a 6u option.

[switchnollie]

Those flat chips are the samples?

Looking good

[rockydbull]

If you have been here long enough you may have seen some customs that carries 6u space-bars. They peaked in 2017-2018 and then faded a bit. dz60 and some other off the shelf PCBs support the 6u space bar configuration. Yet, you may have seen most GMK sets supporting it. If you have been here just recently that may explained your view of current affairs. But it is OK, I really appreciate that you entertain the conversation.

Nah I have been around the block for a while and know support for 6u and actual usage are very different. Maybe there are hoards of 6u mx stem users out there that keep their boards hidden, but across the net I see split spacebar exponentially more than 6u.

[Capsy]

Any chance of adding an accent TU2 enter in the numpad?

[Hell-es]

Any chance of adding an accent TU2 enter in the numpad?

+1

[cldskt]

Finally a CR CP set. Been waiting for another set of GMK other than Stormtrooper to use this but ePBT would do the job just fine too.

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

Any chance of adding an accent TU2 enter in the numpad?

The “mod” keys of the numpad could have colors, couldn’t they?

[Executorg]

Can we have all purple modifiers? Would be instant buy for me.

[Kimmy83]

You should add one more "B" to support Alice + Alice clone layout.
Other than that, really looking forward for your kit to go to GB.

[FTR_Beat]

Can we have all purple modifiers? Would be instant buy for me.

Yep, can we have all purple modifiers and all orange modifiers??!!

[EnjoyMyInSec]

You should add one more "B" to support Alice + Alice clone layout.
Other than that, really looking forward for your kit to go to GB.

Its in the kit.

[EnjoyMyInSec]

Can we have all purple modifiers? Would be instant buy for me.

Yep, can we have all purple modifiers and all orange modifiers??!!

No

[rockydbull]

Can we have all purple modifiers? Would be instant buy for me.

Yep, can we have all purple modifiers and all orange modifiers??!!

No

Not sure if this has been asked (I might have I forgot), but could you confirm with kbdfans that the 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars will be convex? They were for simpleja so the molds exist. Also has the updated pricing come through yet?

[vaf1en]

- The R3 PgUp R4Dn is the only thing that i'm still considering changing.

This would push it over the edge for me and make it a must-buy.

[noodleman]

you may want to add in R1 end and pgdn in your numpad kit for cp/1800 support.

also a magenta delete key for 60% users that want colour symmetry.

[Aevyn]

It would be nice to include dark alpha colors as a separate kit or base kit

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[EnjoyMyInSec]

Alright, sorry guys for the lack of updates, I'm here with new infos.

- Convex spacebars ?

Yes

- Numpad "Num Lock" changed into Num ?

Yes

- R3/R4 Pg Up/Dn ?

No (to make it short, if I include these, I had to include other keys to make it fair for other people, so I decided to not to.)

- Norde kit ?

YES, Candykeys love you guys, so you better show them some love...

- GB WHEN ??

I decided to do something a bit different in those hard times due to covid19 situation.
It won't be a GB. It will basicly be an in stock Item, yes you heard it right, in stock item. And if it's not in stock, depending on what the proxies want to do, it will basicly be a pre-order with only few weeks of wait.
You don't need to upfront money, the prices won't increase, so I think everyone is happy ?

Don't worry, proxies up fronted a decent amount of sets, and we're in discussion to add more proxies and they will buy some sets aswell.

When ?

August/september ish.

I'll update soon the prices if you guys really want to, and the future proxies that will be add to this project.

I hope that you guys like the way this "GB" is handeled, it's something very different from what we are used to see, but I think it's for the best, so let me know what you think.

Take care. 

[alper_maestro]

Nice to hear that it will be in-stock purchasable. Something different than a GB 

[rockydbull]

UGH in stock is a major bummer. In stock is especially concerning with a set like this because I highly doubt vendors will do a 1:1 purchase of every child kit, so even if there is ample base kits, people won't be able to kit the numpad kit or iso kit they want. The best way to solve the child kit issues would be to make a giant base kit incorporating all of the kits or at least the iso and numpad kits so people can have physical compatibility guaranteed. Even a restock could be troublesome because it could result in only base kit being restocked similar to how epbt9009 is on kbdfans.

I fail to see how this is beneficial over a GB. Are people so concerned about wait time between the GB and fulfillment that they would be willing to take the risk of not getting an order at all just so some can get it sooner? If there is concern about people not having funds because of Covid-19 why not just run the GB later and offset the whole project by a couple of months? This project could also just be run as a GB now and vendors could purchase stock from the GB to carry in their storefronts at time of fulfillment. This is essentially what they are doing now, but to the exclusion of us endusers from the "vendor only groupbuy"

Then there is the issue of having to race the clock against flippers who will buy out sets just to pop up on mechmarket later. We are in a new age of MK popularity where literally every in stock item is selling out. Just look at H1, Tangerine, Alpaca, and the craziness with Kbd67 MKIII. These are selling out in under an hours, sometimes in 3 to 5 minutes and many potential buyers are being left out in the cold because the checkout systems can't handle the rush, they didn't get an alert, or can't jump to a computer the second buying opens.

[EnjoyMyInSec]

UGH in stock is a major bummer. In stock is especially concerning with a set like this because I highly doubt vendors will do a 1:1 purchase of every child kit, so even if there is ample base kits, people won't be able to kit the numpad kit or iso kit they want. The best way to solve the child kit issues would be to make a giant base kit incorporating all of the kits or at least the iso and numpad kits so people can have physical compatibility guaranteed. Even a restock could be troublesome because it could result in only base kit being restocked similar to how epbt9009 is on kbdfans.

I fail to see how this is beneficial over a GB. Are people so concerned about wait time between the GB and fulfillment that they would be willing to take the risk of not getting an order at all just so some can get it sooner? If there is concern about people not having funds because of Covid-19 why not just run the GB later and offset the whole project by a couple of months? This project could also just be run as a GB now and vendors could purchase stock from the GB to carry in their storefronts at time of fulfillment. This is essentially what they are doing now, but to the exclusion of us endusers from the "vendor only groupbuy"

Then there is the issue of having to race the clock against flippers who will buy out sets just to pop up on mechmarket later. We are in a new age of MK popularity where literally every in stock item is selling out. Just look at H1, Tangerine, Alpaca, and the craziness with Kbd67 MKIII. These are selling out in under an hours, sometimes in 3 to 5 minutes and many potential buyers are being left out in the cold because the checkout systems can't handle the rush, they didn't get an alert, or can't jump to a computer the second buying opens.

Yes vendors, at least for KBD fans and CK will do a 1:1 purchase of every kit. If it wasnt the case, that wouldnt change a thing, it's not like everyone get all the child kits ?
Most people are fine with just a base kit.
If they miss a kit ? Well, mechmarket/discord/geekhack are meant for that + that set will 100% rerun so that's not a problem ?

Yes it's beneficial, I think we can all agree that the "waiting time" is horrible and that will also let us fix mistakes in case some happens like all the issues with several GMK sets.
Maybe for you money isnt something to worry about but maybe for some it is ? To me at least, this is important.
When something is in stock everyone loves it so it's a good sign I guess ?

"the race against flippers" You think you can avoid it ? no you can't. You can buy 20 sets at GB and sell them later, here you can buy 20 sets and sell them now, the results are the same, we can't stop it, so we gotta live with it.
Yes it's selling fast like all products from a lot of brands across the world, and even art pieces... so yeah you had to be ready ? nothing new there too.

Anyways it's like that and it won't change, I really don't understand how people think that's a bummer, with the currents sets running (a lot per months), people can have one ready in stock, at GB price, just set up an alarm and it will be alright .

[rockydbull]

UGH in stock is a major bummer. In stock is especially concerning with a set like this because I highly doubt vendors will do a 1:1 purchase of every child kit, so even if there is ample base kits, people won't be able to kit the numpad kit or iso kit they want. The best way to solve the child kit issues would be to make a giant base kit incorporating all of the kits or at least the iso and numpad kits so people can have physical compatibility guaranteed. Even a restock could be troublesome because it could result in only base kit being restocked similar to how epbt9009 is on kbdfans.

I fail to see how this is beneficial over a GB. Are people so concerned about wait time between the GB and fulfillment that they would be willing to take the risk of not getting an order at all just so some can get it sooner? If there is concern about people not having funds because of Covid-19 why not just run the GB later and offset the whole project by a couple of months? This project could also just be run as a GB now and vendors could purchase stock from the GB to carry in their storefronts at time of fulfillment. This is essentially what they are doing now, but to the exclusion of us endusers from the "vendor only groupbuy"

Then there is the issue of having to race the clock against flippers who will buy out sets just to pop up on mechmarket later. We are in a new age of MK popularity where literally every in stock item is selling out. Just look at H1, Tangerine, Alpaca, and the craziness with Kbd67 MKIII. These are selling out in under an hours, sometimes in 3 to 5 minutes and many potential buyers are being left out in the cold because the checkout systems can't handle the rush, they didn't get an alert, or can't jump to a computer the second buying opens.

Yes vendors, at least for KBD fans and CK will do a 1:1 purchase of every kit. If it wasnt the case, that wouldnt change a thing, it's not like everyone get all the child kits ?
Most people are fine with just a base kit.
If they miss a kit ? Well, mechmarket/discord/geekhack are meant for that + that set will 100% rerun so that's not a problem ?

Yes it's beneficial, I think we can all agree that the "waiting time" is horrible and that will also let us fix mistakes in case some happens like all the issues with several GMK sets.
Maybe for you money isnt something to worry about but maybe for some it is ? To me at least, this is important.
When something is in stock everyone loves it so it's a good sign I guess ?

"the race against flippers" You think you can avoid it ? no you can't. You can buy 20 sets at GB and sell them later, here you can buy 20 sets and sell them now, the results are the same, we can't stop it, so we gotta live with it.
Yes it's selling fast like all products from a lot of brands across the world, and even art pieces... so yeah you had to be ready ? nothing new there too.

Anyways it's like that and it won't change, I really don't understand how people think that's a bummer, with the currents sets running (a lot per months), people can have one ready in stock, at GB price, just set up an alarm and it will be alright .

Yes not every buyer will purchase child kits, but its at best a guess as to how many will want/need child kits and inevitably there will be a mismatch from vendors that don't buy 1:1. To suggest aftermarket buying is ridiculous when there is already a mechanism for buyers to get all the kits they want without a second hand markup (Groupbuys). There is also no guarantee child kits will rerun, but even if it does is a buyer supposed to buy base and then wait on a rerun for a child kit? Sounds worse than the wait of a Groupbuy.

Even if there is a concern about money I don't see why the groupbuy is not just delayed. Open the buy from September 1 to 30 with normal groupbuy fulfillment times. Same amount of money being spent in September whether groupbuy or in stock. Only difference is time of fulfillment which I don't think outweighs the risk of not getting a kit through the in stock process.

Yes a groupbuy greatly alleviates the issue with flipping because the purchase is at least unlimited for some time through the groupbuy process. Sure, there will be flips after fulfillment but atleast everyone had an opportunity to get what they wanted without competing against flippers for a limited number of kits. I have no issue with flippers flipping its the fact that there are a finite amount of sets for in stock and buyers will have to compete with flippers for those finite sets.

I really don't understand how buyers see this as a benefit. Ask anyone who tried to buy Tangerines recently how just setting an alarm worked out.

[fatalruin]

I want to echo what rockydbull has said. "In Stock" buys are horrible at the moment -- they are a panic inducing affair where you are competing to buy a product that you've been watching since IC, all so middle men / bots can swoop in and buy the majority of the stock to flip. Personally I think the suggestion to delay the GB by a couple of months is a wise idea, or continue the current pattern of running a traditional GB so those who want the set gets one and vendors can put up the money for extras and include a markup. If the ultimate goal is to get the sets into the hands of those who love and are following the project, a traditional GB is the way to go, and those who can't buy in at that time have the option of vendor extras down the line. If it absolutely has to be an "In Stock" sale, I also agree that it should just be one kit like the original ePBT BoW was, to increase the chances that all the keys needed are present. In all honesty, those who were hit hard financially by COVID-19 probably won't have the extra cash to throw down on this set whether it's run in a month or in August (to those who have suffered, I hope you find work and well-being asap). I say all this because this set is something that is a must buy for me and for so many others that are following this thread, and I would hate for us to not be able to buy every kit that we had planned.

[konstantin]

- R3/R4 Pg Up/Dn ?

No (to make it short, if I include these, I had to include other keys to make it fair for other people, so I decided to not to.)

Oh well, we tried, boys. Thanks for considering it, and GLWGB

[CrazyAssMonkey]

- R3/R4 Pg Up/Dn ?

No (to make it short, if I include these, I had to include other keys to make it fair for other people, so I decided to not to.)

Oh well, we tried, boys. Thanks for considering it, and GLWGB

Well dam is it ticket time? Or what happens now?

[Slayer77]

UGH in stock is a major bummer. In stock is especially concerning with a set like this because I highly doubt vendors will do a 1:1 purchase of every child kit, so even if there is ample base kits, people won't be able to kit the numpad kit or iso kit they want. The best way to solve the child kit issues would be to make a giant base kit incorporating all of the kits or at least the iso and numpad kits so people can have physical compatibility guaranteed. Even a restock could be troublesome because it could result in only base kit being restocked similar to how epbt9009 is on kbdfans.

I fail to see how this is beneficial over a GB. Are people so concerned about wait time between the GB and fulfillment that they would be willing to take the risk of not getting an order at all just so some can get it sooner? If there is concern about people not having funds because of Covid-19 why not just run the GB later and offset the whole project by a couple of months? This project could also just be run as a GB now and vendors could purchase stock from the GB to carry in their storefronts at time of fulfillment. This is essentially what they are doing now, but to the exclusion of us endusers from the "vendor only groupbuy"

Then there is the issue of having to race the clock against flippers who will buy out sets just to pop up on mechmarket later. We are in a new age of MK popularity where literally every in stock item is selling out. Just look at H1, Tangerine, Alpaca, and the craziness with Kbd67 MKIII. These are selling out in under an hours, sometimes in 3 to 5 minutes and many potential buyers are being left out in the cold because the checkout systems can't handle the rush, they didn't get an alert, or can't jump to a computer the second buying opens.

Yes vendors, at least for KBD fans and CK will do a 1:1 purchase of every kit. If it wasnt the case, that wouldnt change a thing, it's not like everyone get all the child kits ?
Most people are fine with just a base kit.
If they miss a kit ? Well, mechmarket/discord/geekhack are meant for that + that set will 100% rerun so that's not a problem ?

Yes it's beneficial, I think we can all agree that the "waiting time" is horrible and that will also let us fix mistakes in case some happens like all the issues with several GMK sets.
Maybe for you money isnt something to worry about but maybe for some it is ? To me at least, this is important.
When something is in stock everyone loves it so it's a good sign I guess ?

"the race against flippers" You think you can avoid it ? no you can't. You can buy 20 sets at GB and sell them later, here you can buy 20 sets and sell them now, the results are the same, we can't stop it, so we gotta live with it.
Yes it's selling fast like all products from a lot of brands across the world, and even art pieces... so yeah you had to be ready ? nothing new there too.

Anyways it's like that and it won't change, I really don't understand how people think that's a bummer, with the currents sets running (a lot per months), people can have one ready in stock, at GB price, just set up an alarm and it will be alright .

In stock at GB price, I ain't complaining

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[oldcat]

Please add a white 6u off centered space bar to the Shyntesis kit

+1, although I'd prefer centered stem slightly more.


So are the R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn a definite no, or are you still considering it?

- I won't add 6u because so few layouts use it, almost all 6u keyboards are topre and IMO you shouldnt use non-topre keycaps on topre, maybe it's dumb but that's how I see it.

- The R3 PgUp R4Dn is the only thing that i'm still considering changing.

- I changed the NumLock to Num as you guys suggested, it way better this way.

- The ISO Kit will remain the same since none of the ISO users besides you wanted some changes.

If you have any other questions please let me know.

For the start of the GB, it's a matter of days/weeks, I'm still in discussion with the proxies. 

Please consider! R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn will be such a boost for 65% friends. I will be in this for sure. Thanks brother!

Edit: sorry if the decision has been made to not make them, I got confused as there was at some point hope that they might be made. I wasn't following every post.

[Hell-es]

Hm, if it is always reproduced - would it solve the peoples concerns if they always could pre-order the kits (and they feel like in a gb ... a never ending gb )

Because yes, it would be annoying to see the sold out sign, then it is available for a day, and then gone again for some time

So a preorder option with the vendors would be nice, and maybe would also help vendors/epbt to plan the next production run