[IC] GMK Beige Addon & Extension - GB: October 30 - November 30

[mcmcmc]

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GMK Beige Addon & Extension
As its name implies, it's beige. Why beige? Because beige is a pretty common colorway. Although I personally think it's boring, but it's great for this because you can find beige sets relatively easy to pair with this. I've been working on this along with DCS Vert for some time now, and I want to share it to you guys, and I also like to get some feedback on this. I know that I am running an IC for a DCS set in parallel, my actual plan is to run this after DCS Vert. But recently I saw that there're a few beige sets popping up, so I thought this would be useful to some people.

IC Form
Any feedback is appreciated.

GB: October 30 - November 30

Price
My rant on pricing (skip this)

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I'm not satisfied with the prices. These prices compared to the amount of keys you get is not good ($10 more than the total amount of keys). I've talked with Mike (M&C), couple of my friends and vendors about this. We have 5 options.

1) CMYK, R0&R5 and Addition at 500 MOQ - Prices of each of these kits will dropped by $5. Considering how people perceive GMK rn, it's very optimistic to hit 3x500 MOQ kits meaning vendors need to buy out the MOQ. I did some calculations and best case scenario is not only vendors will not get any profit, but each of them will need to spend at least $1,500 out of their pocket to buy out the MOQ. Even if we remove all the kits except these three, vendors will still not get any profit.
2) First option except R0&R5 at 250 MOQ - R0&R5 is at 250 MOQ because it require the most amount of money to buy out the 500 MOQ. Best case scenario is vendors will get profit, but very very little.
3) Second option except we remove some kits - Vendors will get a decent amount of profit, but we need to remove 2002 and 40s Kit.
4) CMYK, R0&R5 at 250 MOQ and Addition at 500 MOQ - Addition is not at 250 MOQ because compared to other kits this has the worst value per key. Vendors will get profit, but still little (a tad more than the 2nd). To make around the same range of profit as 3rd and 5th option, we need to remove 40s kit.
5) All at 250 MOQ - It's a little bit expensive than what I want, but we get to keep all of the kits. Vendors will get a decent amount of profit and this option has by far the least risk compared to others. And now vendors aren't taking nearly as many extras and hobby is shrinking, we think this is the best option.

Not only that we also have to consider, the average cost to ship from GMK is roughly $7.5/Base kit normally so figuring we don't have a base kit here, the cost might come down a bit but it will still land around $4.5-5.5. Then other vendors like OCE and such have high import taxes and fees, so we have to consider all the vendors. That's why prices have gone up a bit. I'd like to show you the quotes, but because of obvious reasons I can't. IMO this is not a good price compared to the amount of keys you get and how long you're going to wait, but this is the best we can do. I'd personally want see this set make MOQ, rather than trying to lower the price and possibly not hitting MOQ and remove some kits. So I need to be a bad guy here. You guys probably know that GMK has been raising their prices, and I'm also not happy about it. However, unfortunately this set can only be done with GMK considering new molds and everything. If you're not going to join this set because of the pricing, I totally understand you. Regarding GB date, it's set to run in 30/10/22-30/11/22. But because zFrontier ghosted me, this might change. I think that's everything. Tschüss!

Vendors
United States: Mechs & Co.
Europe: Oblotzky Industries
United Kingdom: Prototypist
Canada: ApexKeyboards
Oceania: Daily Clack
South East Asia: Hex Keyboards
Worldwide/China: zFrontier

Details
Material - ABS
Legends - Doubleshot
Colors - GMK L9, U9, CR, MG1, TU2, CV, DY, P3, V4, N7 & V2

Board Renders by Pontus

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21xx by Pontus



Daal by Ankit and Hali



Routemaster by Ash;

40s Kit
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R0&R5 Kit
*Note* R0 shinethrough keys are rendered in R1 because there's no R0 shinethrough model in Endeavour's file.


Addition Kit
♥2
Thanks to Laur for helping me get these Cherry logos, consider buying GMK Retro Runic to pair with this.

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Image from GMK Rouge Thread, Credit Rayndalf.

BAE Kit
Laur and I will be making a new mold for this with this legend for people to use.
We will use ANSI Enter stabilizer positions instead of ISO like what GMK has rn.
It would make it a lot easier to use on boards with fixed ANSI plate layout.


Bars Kit
For you guys who have banana spacebars.


2002 Kit
Poes from mykeyboard.eu offered me to take over GMK 2002 -o-
Shout-out to pngu for designing this.


CMYK Kit
In fact it’s CMYOPK, but yeah...


There will be no collaborations, novelties & deskmats.

I don't have any fancy renders of it on boards because again it's beige, I'm sure you guys have some in your house. Also these renders are not 100% accurate, but I tried my best, so here are some pictures I've scoured for you guys to see how it looks irl. If you own any of these images and want it to be removed, contact me I'll happily remove it for you. Pictures

Q&A

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Forced Alt Gr

• I like my Alt angry. Jokes aside, because this set has a lot of kits and most of it is big doing forced Alt Gr is the best option here. And this also makes this set compatible with Hineybeige.

Icon mods/HADapter & HADditionals

• Unfortunately there isn't any room left for that.

Discord
Discord server / mcmcmc#2149
Support this project by idk reply something to this thread, so more people see this I guess. Thank you for reading this IC.

[mcmcmc]

2/2/22

• Update kitting.

4/2/22

• Added most vendors.
• Update kitting (CMYK).

25/5/22

• Too many updates.

24/6/22

• Kitting finalized, submitted for quotes.

21/10/22

• Pricing finalized. Working on GB Date.

[ankit]

Thank you for including vim arrows and big ass enter. Classy kit, GLWIC.

[Qwapa]

I'm a big fan, hope this gets a lot of support! 

[Neely_12]

Lit. In for cmyk for sure.

[Kptburger]

I love this, nice kits, but consider an Ansi kit would be nice to use with OG iso caps, GLWIC 

[HungHingDaiLo]

Yes pls

[DubbTom]

How about adding a B to the 40's kit for combined 40/alice support?

[MIGHTY CHICKEN]

Speak of the devil, begging for it all of this short year and look what we have, really is the year of the beige

[mcmcmc]

How about adding a B to the 40's kit for combined 40/alice support?

most beige sets have an alice support kit already or include a 'b' in their base kit, so i don't think it's worth doing that. Done.

[kyuut]

in for CMYK

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

Are you capturing enough data on your form? For instance, I’d buy the R0/R5 kit for the 50-60$ I think it would cost. If there really were 99 others out there I think it would be great to show that to prospective vendors.

[soloplayer]

yes yes yes!
definitely yes!

[darthcapn]

In for all the kits!!

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[zyyg]

Please add R5 alt gr

[mcmcmc]

Please add R5 alt gr

noted.

[whirlwind]

You had me at Beige

[LaserCrafter]

thank you for this. I will get this along with hineybeige to have good compat for all my boards.

[subieboobies]

in for every single kit. thank you for doing vim arrows

[unusuaL_]

cymk :0 

[audax989]

watching this. definitely a good companion to the upcoming hineybeige

[zekth]

CMYK is pretty complete. Thanks for bringing that up. Still a good kit to have.

[Fraaaan]

Very cool stuff. GLWIC! 

[Pyroo]

This is p cute glwic

[sup3r170va]

I’m in!

[mcmcmc]

Poes from mykeyboard.eu offered me to take over GMK 2002 and add it to be the 5th kit -o- (i've been waiting for this set for a while, i thought it was dead lol.)

[Laur]

this is a cool set.

[autocast]

This is hot.

Any interest in doing a text-mod modifier kit? IMO text-mods look pretty nice on HHKB

[Gnome]

Down for the cymk kit. I'd love a gb like this but for wob

[udller]

i want the kit with the bae so bad

[Magnificent Bureaucrat]

The rebeigessance continues and I'm here for it

[actress]

ne chance for rgb kit ?

[blowmage]

Can the 1.5u Super and Function keys from the r5 kit be added to the CMYK kit?

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

2002 kit would be awesome

[Applet]

Any chance for a windowed cherry-icon 1u? (In additionals kit)

I’m in for 2002, additional and likely CMYK

[Yuinth]

Beige - check
R0, R5 - check
CYMK accents - check

I want this now (or in 20XX, I don't care, I want it)

[gotgoodiez]

I am in for most kits and glad to see you are planning on adding 2002 also!

[GMK83]

I’m in for all kits

[mcmcmc]

Any chance for a windowed cherry-icon 1u? (In additionals kit)

I’m in for 2002, additional and likely CMYK

sure!

[mcmcmc]

ne chance for rgb kit ?

i'm afraid that hiney will run rgbyk kit along with hineybeige, but we'll see.

[Qarmaa]

It's pretty cool project so people have compat. I personally see no appeal of R5/R0 set compare the same that made for WoB. Most of OG doubleshots (1000HAU for example) as well as other recent beige runs (like Zhuyin) already have R5 compare to WoB which sold constantly as in stock with R4 bottom row.

2.25u enter in addition kit looks like a meme and since it's most expensive key in GMK, it ruins the purpuse of extensions. Less than 1% people that will be buying kit, will use it. Instead it's better to make separate kit to add compat for OG doubleshots for ISO/ANSI.

[mcmcmc]

It's pretty cool project so people have compat. I personally see no appeal of R5/R0 set compare the same that made for WoB. Most of OG doubleshots (1000HAU for example) as well as other recent beige runs (like Zhuyin) already have R5 compare to WoB which sold constantly as in stock with R4 bottom row.

2.25u enter in addition kit looks like a meme and since it's most expensive key in GMK, it ruins the purpuse of extensions. Less than 1% people that will be buying kit, will use it. Instead it's better to make separate kit to add compat for OG doubleshots for ISO/ANSI.

thanks for the feedback, i'll move my 2.25 enter to a separte kit. for R5 bottom row i'll consider removing it to lower the price. thanks! Done.

[neon_tom]

It's pretty cool project so people have compat. I personally see no appeal of R5/R0 set compare the same that made for WoB. Most of OG doubleshots (1000HAU for example) as well as other recent beige runs (like Zhuyin) already have R5 compare to WoB which sold constantly as in stock with R4 bottom row.

2.25u enter in addition kit looks like a meme and since it's most expensive key in GMK, it ruins the purpuse of extensions. Less than 1% people that will be buying kit, will use it. Instead it's better to make separate kit to add compat for OG doubleshots for ISO/ANSI.

thanks for the feedback, i'll move my 2.25 enter to a separte kit. for R5 bottom row i'll consider removing it to lower the price. thanks!

I disagree with removing R5 altogether. I personally have no OG set and didn’t buy zhuyin. But what I do have is multiple sets of R2 9009 that I’d love to have R5 for. Just my 2 cents that I’d happily pay for R5.

[Ensaum]

It's pretty cool project so people have compat. I personally see no appeal of R5/R0 set compare the same that made for WoB. Most of OG doubleshots (1000HAU for example) as well as other recent beige runs (like Zhuyin) already have R5 compare to WoB which sold constantly as in stock with R4 bottom row.

2.25u enter in addition kit looks like a meme and since it's most expensive key in GMK, it ruins the purpuse of extensions. Less than 1% people that will be buying kit, will use it. Instead it's better to make separate kit to add compat for OG doubleshots for ISO/ANSI.

I imagine the appeal of the r0/5 kit is for all of the Classic Retro variants that didn't have r0/5 support

Edit: piggy backing off of this.. Op, would you consider adding a r1 F13 to the addition kit for older classic retro style sets?

[Poesjuh]

For gmk 2002 I made a list some months ago with the beige sets I could think of and if they have R4 or R5

> R5
OG doubleshots
9009 R3
KA1953
Retro Zhuyin *
Classic Arabic *
Hineybeige *

> R4
9009 R2
Classic retro
Classic retro Cyrillic
Classic retro Arabic
Sixes * (same colors)
Retro Runic *

* = future sets / in production


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[paperassgasket]

Glad to see the 2x3u bars being added 

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

This would be the perk of capturing r0 r5 data in the IC form.

I’d buy the kit as is (incidentally, me)
I’d buy multiples
I’d buy r0 only and including r5 is a dealbreaker
The opposite of the above
Not interested

This will get you both the communities desires and help you get a better MOQ if there’s a buncha people interested, as many of these kits haven’t made it out of IC and those that did died at GB.

[LXVRGS]

any chance on some 6u bars for the topre bois, or f13 in the r0 kit (im blind, disregard)

[Ensaum]

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[wahfuhls]

stepped control!!!

[actress]

ne chance for rgb kit ?

i'm afraid that hiney will be running rgbyk kit along with hineybeige, but we'll see.

 

[yoshifan151]

100% in for the CMYK kit. Will also get the R0/R5 kit but maybe consider having it only R0 since a lot of beige sets do already have R5.

Also I'd like to see the traditional PrtSc/SysRq and Pause/Break keys with the front print on the R0 keys.

In either way.

[mcmcmc]

100% in for the CMYK kit. Will also get the R0/R5 kit but maybe consider having it only R0 since a lot of beige sets do already have R5.

Also I'd like to see the traditional PrtSc/SysRq and Pause/Break keys with the front print on the R0 keys.

In either way.

noted.

[mcmcmc]

This would be the perk of capturing r0 r5 data in the IC form.

I’d buy the kit as is (incidentally, me)
I’d buy multiples
I’d buy r0 only and including r5 is a dealbreaker
The opposite of the above
Not interested

This will get you both the communities desires and help you get a better MOQ if there’s a buncha people interested, as many of these kits haven’t made it out of IC and those that did died at GB.

done, i've updated the form.

[azhdar]

Why follow this.
Would love to have legend only shift in CMYK kit

[DeMechanica]

Yes!! I need this. Add 40s support to the CYMK kit please! So sick

[mcmcmc]

bump. updated kits & 2002 kit added.

[soloplayer]

can we have r0 shinethrough caps in addition kit?
also new update is sick!

[of_sam]

This is a **** ton of kits. Hopefully vendors will be on board.

[mcmcmc]

This is a **** ton of kits. Hopefully vendors will be on board.

i mean i could combine bae kit with addition & cmyk esc with cmyk kit and it’ll be 5 kits, but that would bump up the price by a lot. so i think leaving them separately is the best, for people who actually want them.

[J3ff_Leopard]

I think the idea of keeping kitting prices low is kinda lost when you break up CMYK escapes with the rest of CMYK. Are people really wanting to buy one or the other? I would think most people would want both. The sum of two child kits like this is almost always more expensive than one larger kit.

[mcmcmc]

I think the idea of keeping kitting prices low is kinda lost when you break up CMYK escapes with the rest of CMYK. Are people really wanting to buy one or the other? I would think most people would want both. The sum of two child kits like this is almost always more expensive than one larger kit.

oh thanks for bringing that up. i didn’t know that this is my first time kitting GMK set, so i’m still learning and i’m learning a lot from this. in that case i will combine them together. Done.

[Lysol_]

count me in for the 2002 and cmyk. really looking forward to this!

[Phrillis]

finally get to try R0 and R5

ive been waiting for a cmyk return (hoping both cmyk kits get merged)

in for both kits!

[white_rabbit]

Definitely in for at least a 40s kit.

[mr_foggy]

omg yes this was much needed

[mcmcmc]

finally get to try R0 and R5

ive been waiting for a cmyk return (hoping both cmyk kits get merged)

in for both kits!

sure! done.

[autocast]

That 2002 kit is sick

Just a minor thing, can we get the icon-mod shift arrows top aligned. See: https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1000

[mcmcmc]

That 2002 kit is sick

Just a minor thing, can we get the icon-mod shift arrows top aligned. See: https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1000

actually it is suppose to be like that, my renders are just ass. but i'll fix that gimme like an hour. Done.

[Applet]

Opinions on having one red cherry (legend color) of the two windowed 1u? (possibly one of the non-windowed also?)

[mcmcmc]

Opinions on having one red cherry (legend color) of the two windowed 1u? (possibly one of the non-windowed also?)

i personally like black better because it goes well with beige, but i guess i can do that. i'll consider it.

[Applet]

I'm happy either way

[fishbiscuit13]

Please under no circumstances consider removing r5

[stomaha]

You have answered my prayers. Please get this to GB asap!

[macclack]

Kitting is great. Looking forward to this going to GB

[bigapplepietart]

So clean, in for all the sets minus the 40's kit. Hoping for Canadian vendors on board.

[pleasega]

cmyk but when cmyw

[Chadtucket]

hi, mint dolch accent kit please. thank you <3

[Saks]

hi, mint dolch accent kit please. thank you <3

Will be run with GMK Retro Runic, which is currently in IC too

[jagger27]

stepped control!!!

Agreed. I would rather see a stepped Control instead of the Cherry 2.25U enter. Not sure why there are so many 1U R1 Cherry logos in the addition kit.

[mcmcmc]

stepped control!!!

Agreed. I would rather see a stepped Control instead of the Cherry 2.25U enter. Not sure why there are so many 1U R1 Cherry logos in the addition kit.

sure! i think it's duplicated, i totally forgot to edit them out in photoshop lol.

[soloplayer]

stepped control!!!

Agreed. I would rather see a stepped Control instead of the Cherry 2.25U enter. Not sure why there are so many 1U R1 Cherry logos in the addition kit.

sure! i think it's duplicated, i totally forgot to edit them out in photoshop lol.

may we replace to r0 cherry shinethrough?

[mcmcmc]

stepped control!!!

Agreed. I would rather see a stepped Control instead of the Cherry 2.25U enter. Not sure why there are so many 1U R1 Cherry logos in the addition kit.

sure! i think it's duplicated, i totally forgot to edit them out in photoshop lol.

may we replace to r0 cherry shinethrough?

actually that makes a lot of sense because retro runic & classic retro zhuyin are offering those in r1 meaning you can get them from those instead of this, and the fact that i am offering r0 meaning you can use them with this. Done

[westway]

I finally see this come true. Thank you!

I personally would like to see the stepped windowed icon mod caps lock in the addition kit, maybe in place of the stepped Control (because I think the HHKB layout should be with the standard Control anyway) if you want to contain the price or just as another keycap in that kit. It was available only in a separate kit of 9009 R2 years ago

[soloplayer]

stepped control!!!

Agreed. I would rather see a stepped Control instead of the Cherry 2.25U enter. Not sure why there are so many 1U R1 Cherry logos in the addition kit.

sure! i think it's duplicated, i totally forgot to edit them out in photoshop lol.

may we replace to r0 cherry shinethrough?

actually that makes a lot of sense because retro runic & classic retro zhuyin are offering those in r1 meaning you can get them from those instead of this, and the fact that i am offering r0 meaning you can use them with this. Done

tysm!! my wallet is ready !

[hpfalcon]

any chance for korean add-on? Hasn't been run in a while

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101281.0

[pleasega]

any chance for korean add-on? Hasn't been run in a while

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101281.0

yes korean addon please, would buy this instantly

[vladimir108]

hi, mint dolch accent kit please. thank you <3

Will be run with GMK Retro Runic, which is currently in IC too

Dolch kit is not mentioned in whole thread by thread starter.

[mcmcmc]

I finally see this come true. Thank you!

I personally would like to see the stepped windowed icon mod caps lock in the addition kit, maybe in place of the stepped Control (because I think the HHKB layout should be with the standard Control anyway) if you want to contain the price or just as another keycap in that kit. It was available only in a separate kit of 9009 R2 years ago

hmm i will consider

any chance for korean add-on? Hasn't been run in a while

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101281.0

yes korean addon please, would buy this instantly

sorry to dissapoint you, i'm afraid we don't have room for that.

hi, mint dolch accent kit please. thank you <3

Will be run with GMK Retro Runic, which is currently in IC too

Dolch kit is not mentioned in whole thread by thread starter.

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this is in "Accent Mods"

[mr_foggy]

YES.
in for almost everything except 40s

[mr_fro2000]

10000% in on CMYK kit... those R5s will go great w/ the new GMK Hangul WOB kit I just snagged...

[sirieous]

Not sure if too late, but I would appreciate a kit with just barred f and j for KA1953. Scoops are lame.

[Dyto69]

yess thats exactly what i need

[Sterenke]

Will get [undecided amount] 40s and addition kits.
Looking forward to seeing your pricing.

[ideus]

I am very glad to see that you have chosen a couple of my pictures (the first two), which you are very welcome to use, by the way.

[mcmcmc]

Bump for vendors. 

[RA Can]

this might be a bit too late but please consider adding Mint Dolch kit

[max.clacks]

this might be a bit too late but please consider adding Mint Dolch kit

hi, mint dolch accent kit please. thank you <3

Will be run with GMK Retro Runic, which is currently in IC too

[Photekq]

I'm very interested in all of these kits.

But please, please, for the keys with LED windows: request pad printing rather than UV printing, if GMK is able to do it. I've been consistently disappointed by GMKs UV print; it's noticeably raised from the keycap surface, the legends have HEAVY bleed and low quality, and the font doesn't match with the standard Cherry legends that GMK uses on their doubleshot keys.

This would make or break my interest.

For reference, pictures of GMK KA1953:




Versus Cherry pad print:

[lbassett21]

Very much interested in a couple of the kits. Always nice to see CMYK come back, along with some general novelty keys. Good luck!

[Zurg Eon]

Sweet! Finally a CMYK kit with 1.5u super 

[Nuclear Nachos]

2 heart and next line keys are a really neat touch for the addition kit. Any chance of also throwing in the 1u colored keys from that board (cancel, help, go back, enter)?

[actress]

Jeeesus the Addition kit is so good! Thanks for keeping vim arrows. Can you please consider throwing in a r1 windowed cherry logo key in there as well? Or maybe moving the r0 ones to the r0/r5 kit and having r1 only in Addition. That way we have more freedom in choosing.
Hope you understand my ramble. GL!!

[sarvopari]

Solid kitting, love the 1.5 Super x 2 as well! I’m in for a few kits for sure

[Hentoys]

Too good! Instant buy.

[LegendsWorks]

In for CMYK and bae, Looking nice GLWIC

[mcmcmc]

I'm very interested in all of these kits.

But please, please, for the keys with LED windows: request pad printing rather than UV printing, if GMK is able to do it. I've been consistently disappointed by GMKs UV print; it's noticeably raised from the keycap surface, the legends have HEAVY bleed and low quality, and the font doesn't match with the standard Cherry legends that GMK uses on their doubleshot keys.

This would make or break my interest.

For reference, pictures of GMK KA1953:

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Versus Cherry pad print:

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to my knowledge GMK actually doesn't do pad printing, only UV printing. what people have been calling pad-printed legends from GMK, they're actually uv-printed the whole time.

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2 heart and next line keys are a really neat touch for the addition kit. Any chance of also throwing in the 1u colored keys from that board (cancel, help, go back, enter)?

probably no because i'm afraid that throwing in more custom mold keys into the set might affect the price of the whole set thus ruins the point of it (eventhough it doesn't actually affect it that much), and personally i don't see it goes well with anything. **** it i’m doing it

Jeeesus the Addition kit is so good! Thanks for keeping vim arrows. Can you please consider throwing in a r1 windowed cherry logo key in there as well? Or maybe moving the r0 ones to the r0/r5 kit and having r1 only in Addition. That way we have more freedom in choosing.
Hope you understand my ramble. GL!!

you make a good point, sure.

[Photekq]

to my knowledge GMK actually doesn't do pad printing, only UV printing. what people have been calling pad-printed legends from GMK, they're actually uv-printed the whole time.

I had thought the same up until recently; I saw the windowed keys for classic retro zhuyin were being pad printed. Going by what you've said though, I guess that's incorrect information and will be UV printed too.

It's a damn shame they don't offer pad printing, I really had my hopes up for a second there. If you ever have the opportunity to ask GMK and confirm this, that'd be amazing.

[vladimir108]

missing 2 keys in kit "2002 Kit" are not included 1U <AltGr> (R4+R5)

[Poesjuh]

Ignoring the fact that AltGr as a legend on a 1u keycap barely fits, they’re intentionally not included, same with 1u control.


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[Mr_Spaceman]

This is just brilliant! Count me in for more than one of the addition kits and the r0-r5 kits.

[phinix]

When you have BAE, you should add R4 1u |\ cap, like in Focus keyboards layouts.

[sarvopari]

This is probably past the time for changes, but just in case: Would you consider adding a 6U centered L9 spacebar?

It’s shockingly difficult to find, and it would go with so many L9 sets: the beige sets, Froyo, Kaiju, Analog Dreams, etc.

With the general availability of Des sliders and designers making true HHKB layout, it’s likely worth it to add.

Once again, thanks for running this!

[ideus]

I am interested in the 2002 and BAE kits. I agree with the OP to keep the former as small and affordable as possible; however, it may include the R5 versions of its 1.25 mods. Otherwise, the opportunity to get 1.25 mods in this design will be lost forever, like a tear in the rain.


Edit: Would you include a WoB and a black-on-red BAEs?

[phinix]

I am interested in the 2002 and BAE kits. I agree with the OP to keep the former as small and affordable as possible; however, it may include the R5 versions of its 1.25 mods. Otherwise, the opportunity to get 1.25 mods in this design will be lost forever, like a tear in the rain.

ooooh, another Blade Runner fan here 

[ideus]

I am interested in the 2002 and BAE kits. I agree with the OP to keep the former as small and affordable as possible; however, it may include the R5 versions of its 1.25 mods. Otherwise, the opportunity to get 1.25 mods in this design will be lost forever, like a tear in the rain.

ooooh, another Blade Runner fan here 

I was sure that some of you scifi-cultured pals would notice it.

[phinix]

I am interested in the 2002 and BAE kits. I agree with the OP to keep the former as small and affordable as possible; however, it may include the R5 versions of its 1.25 mods. Otherwise, the opportunity to get 1.25 mods in this design will be lost forever, like a tear in the rain.

ooooh, another Blade Runner fan here 

I was sure that some of you scifi-cultured pals would notice it.

[ideus]

I am interested in the 2002 and BAE kits. I agree with the OP to keep the former as small and affordable as possible; however, it may include the R5 versions of its 1.25 mods. Otherwise, the opportunity to get 1.25 mods in this design will be lost forever, like a tear in the rain.

ooooh, another Blade Runner fan here 

I was sure that some of you scifi-cultured pals would notice it.

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My favorite replicant.

[phinix]

I am interested in the 2002 and BAE kits. I agree with the OP to keep the former as small and affordable as possible; however, it may include the R5 versions of its 1.25 mods. Otherwise, the opportunity to get 1.25 mods in this design will be lost forever, like a tear in the rain.

ooooh, another Blade Runner fan here 

I was sure that some of you scifi-cultured pals would notice it.

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My favorite replicant.

Yep, everyone love him

[stomaha]

I love this. May we proceed with the GB now?

[LaserCrafter]

f*ck me this is so good

[Seunghyun Lee]

Please consider icon mod kit...

[PeppyToad]

In for more than one 40s kit

[ideus]

I just noticed that you have included a 1u R1 "Back" key that I think belongs to the BAE kit better than to the 40s kit.

[mcmcmc]

This is probably past the time for changes, but just in case: Would you consider adding a 6U centered L9 spacebar?

It’s shockingly difficult to find, and it would go with so many L9 sets: the beige sets, Froyo, Kaiju, Analog Dreams, etc.

With the general availability of Des sliders and designers making true HHKB layout, it’s likely worth it to add.

Once again, thanks for running this!

this is very interesting, i will think about this.

I just noticed that you have included a 1u R1 "Back" key that I think belongs to the BAE kit better than to the 40s kit.

actually that makes a lot of sense, sure. i'm not going to move it from 40s kit to bae kit tho i'm just going to add another one to bae kit.

[sarvopari]

this is very interesting, i will think about this.

Sweet, 'preesh

[menuhin]

this is very interesting, i will think about this.

Sweet, 'preesh

I'm in for true hhkb layout support too. All in for a 6u bar.

[ideus]

this is very interesting, i will think about this.

Sweet, 'preesh

I'm in for true hhkb layout support too. All in for a 6u bar.

I consider the 6u space-bar the ideal size for a true bar (not the other minimal split bars); however, the wires for costar stabs (the best feeling ones) are not commercially available and the tools to make them are expensive (if you only need a few of them). Furthermore, 6u bars are scarce and unavailable for special colors, complicated by the fact that there are two designs for them that are not interchangeable. In summary, 6u space-bar designs are too complicated and impractical to source and use.

[conternecticus]

Is it just me or the Addition kit shown in the IC is very similar to the 40s kit?

[aa212121]

Is it just me or the Addition kit shown in the IC is very similar to the 40s kit?

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Prolly a paste error as additional kit is

[Handke]

Just a question, two years delivery time?

[Endeavour1934]

*Note* R0 shinethrough keys are rendered in R1 because there's no R0 shinethrough model in Endeavour's file.

Oh, I didn't know that there were R0 windowed molds available!

[spedywin]

good for me

[mcmcmc]

Is it just me or the Addition kit shown in the IC is very similar to the 40s kit?

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fixed

Just a question, two years delivery time?

yes unfortunately

[ideus]

The new BAE kit is excellent. What would be the position of the stem at the BAE's top? Would it be set at the center of the 1.5 space? The Steelseries 7g and 6gv2 have that stem replaced with a long shaft that works like a stabilizer; instead, an ANSI-BAE should have a stem that fits the back-slash-pipe's stem.

[productkun]

In the Addition Kit, will the “♥2” be aligned properly unlike what Emir did with GMK Rouge?

His reasoning was “But OG was like this”, but OG doesn’t mean it’s better or that it makes sense. There are many OG keyboards with kinky bad layouts for example.

IF you’re gonna reuse the Emir mold please consider adding a properly aligned “♥2” too.

Would appreciate it.

[mcmcmc]

The new BAE kit is excellent. What would be the position of the stem at the BAE's top? Would it be set at the center of the 1.5 space? The Steelseries 7g and 6gv2 have that stem replaced with a long shaft that works like a stabilizer; instead, an ANSI-BAE should have a stem that fits the back-slash-pipe's stem.

we'll use the same stem positions as DCS BAE with a stem in the spot of the pipe key for a dummy switch.

In the Addition Kit, will the “♥2” be aligned properly unlike what Emir did with GMK Rouge?

His reasoning was “But OG was like this”, but OG doesn’t mean it’s better or that it makes sense. There are many OG keyboards with kinky bad layouts for example.

IF you’re gonna reuse the Emir mold please consider adding a properly aligned “♥2” too.

Would appreciate it.

yep, it'll be aligned properly.

[productkun]

In the Addition Kit, will the “♥2” be aligned properly unlike what Emir did with GMK Rouge?

His reasoning was “But OG was like this”, but OG doesn’t mean it’s better or that it makes sense. There are many OG keyboards with kinky bad layouts for example.

IF you’re gonna reuse the Emir mold please consider adding a properly aligned “♥2” too.

Would appreciate it.

yep, it'll be aligned properly.

Thanks, I love you dearly 

[ideus]

A BAE with stems that fit an ANSI layout would be very versatile. Thank you for your reply.

[Fraaaan]

We will use ANSI Enter stabilizer positions instead of ISO like what GMK has rn.

For BAE, I assume switch position would be on ANSI pipe? Or would we have a switch in ANSI enter position and a dummy switch on ANSI pipe?

[Nonnegaard]

i will go absolutely broke when this drops

[F13]

Looks great.

Any chance to include a Colevrak kit like with the WOB Extensions? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105239.0

[mcmaxmcmc]

Ooooooh, this is good!  Very good!  Thank you for making this set, hahaha.  I've been wanting these caps for a while now and now perhaps I can finally have them.

One thing on the Addition kit, though:  There is a variant of the ♥2 that has extra colored keys.  Two, to be exact -- it's the bracket keys.  Here is an album of a keyboard that has those extra keys: https://imgur.com/a/fzwEGhH

And here is a picture for those who just wants a glimpse:


And another one because cats are cute:   (These pictures are not mine, so no, I don't own the cat.)


I'd love for these two keys to be in the kit as well!  I think others would love it as well now that they know this variant exists.  Please consider adding these two keys in the kit.

Also... I have been getting a few messages asking me about this set because of our similar names.  I've been dealing with them just fine, but yes, that indeed has been the case. 

[mcmcmc]

We will use ANSI Enter stabilizer positions instead of ISO like what GMK has rn.

For BAE, I assume switch position would be on ANSI pipe? Or would we have a switch in ANSI enter position and a dummy switch on ANSI pipe?

a switch in ANSI enter position and a dummy switch in ANSI pipe position.

Looks great.

Any chance to include a Colevrak kit like with the WOB Extensions? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105239.0

unfortunately no cuz we don't have enough room for that. 

Ooooooh, this is good!  Very good!  Thank you for making this set, hahaha.  I've been wanting these caps for a while now and now perhaps I can finally have them.

One thing on the Addition kit, though:  There is a variant of the ♥2 that has extra colored keys.  Two, to be exact -- it's the bracket keys.  Here is an album of a keyboard that has those extra keys: https://imgur.com/a/fzwEGhH

And here is a picture for those who just wants a glimpse:

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And another one because cats are cute:   (These pictures are not mine, so no, I don't own the cat.)

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I'd love for these two keys to be in the kit as well!  I think others would love it as well now that they know this variant exists.  Please consider adding these two keys in the kit.

Also... I have been getting a few messages asking me about this set because of our similar names.  I've been dealing with them just fine, but yes, that indeed has been the case. 

added! 

[ideus]

When?

[Lysol_]

ne red or colored cherry windowed cap and 2.25u cap avail? the 1u windowed red cherry cap was last seen on the 2100 HAE board so it would be cool to see it added to one of the kits. and the 2.25u colored cherry logo cap was last seen on GMK ka1953 and I don't know of any other sets that do that specific key in color in the current year. if it's too late to change anything at this point, i understand as well.

[treeleaf64]

No opinion, don't need it, will not buy it
Gater Ron likes it.

[Seoulcialite]

Add a normal spacebar kit. My current 7u spacebar is a banana...

[actress]

nah the addition kit is the best add-on kit of all time. Seriously can't wait to get it

[ideus]

The "additional," "2002," and "BAE" kits are a must-get for any serious collector.

[Thon]

thoughts on including r0 relegendables?

[ideus]

People can have keycap sets in any color they want, as long as it is OG Beige.

[Zurg Eon]

Add a normal spacebar kit. My current 7u spacebar is a banana...

This would be nice. I need an extra 7u, haven't been able to find one

[Seoulcialite]

thoughts on including r0 relegendables?

One for U9 and L9 already ran last November/December. Maybe you can grab extras when it fulfills.

[subieboobies]

Add a normal spacebar kit. My current 7u spacebar is a banana...

This would be nice. I need an extra 7u, haven't been able to find one

agreed, a separate spacebar kit would be fantastic. please consider

[VXQN]

Would also love to see at least a 7u/6.25u spacebar added somewhere (maybe R0 + R5 kit?)

[ankit]

Any chance to add a 6u spacebar still? Looks like the Spaceholdings KA1953 revival set doesn't have it and we need it for some true 6u HHKBs that are coming out (AKB Vero, Type-B, Falcon 3.0, etc.).

[Emir]

Did you clear the heart 2 mold with the owner?
I wouldn't mind, but kono owns rouge these days so you might want to reach out and ask

[mcmcmc]

ne red or colored cherry windowed cap and 2.25u cap avail? the 1u windowed red cherry cap was last seen on the 2100 HAE board so it would be cool to see it added to one of the kits. and the 2.25u colored cherry logo cap was last seen on GMK ka1953 and I don't know of any other sets that do that specific key in color in the current year. if it's too late to change anything at this point, i understand as well.

adding them to addition kit.

Add a normal spacebar kit. My current 7u spacebar is a banana...

This would be nice. I need an extra 7u, haven't been able to find one

agreed, a separate spacebar kit would be fantastic. please consider

i will make a separate kit for that. i will also make cmyk kit smaller, so it doesn’t cost 60$. i want cmyk to be a nice extra pick-up like 2002 considering that there’re a lot of kits and i want this set to focus on beige.

Would also love to see at least a 7u/6.25u spacebar added somewhere (maybe R0 + R5 kit?)

adding them to bars kit.

Any chance to add a 6u spacebar still? Looks like the Spaceholdings KA1953 revival set doesn't have it and we need it for some true 6u HHKBs that are coming out (AKB Vero, Type-B, Falcon 3.0, etc.).

adding both center and offcenter to bars kit

Did you clear the heart 2 mold with the owner?
I wouldn't mind, but kono owns rouge these days so you might want to reach out and ask

i will make a new mold for that cuz i don’t like the alignment of the <3.

i’m working on renders for all of these changes, i will update when they’re done. 

Edit: looking at responses from ic i am going to keep cmyk kitting cuz most people are far more interested in cmyk than any other kits (not including Addition and R0&R5). i think it's better to price it a bit high and give people more support than making it cheap and give people less compatibility imo.

[Dyno]

Pls consider adding a simple icon kit with a windowed purse in it

[Zurg Eon]

i will also make cmyk kit smaller, so it doesn’t cost 60$.

Please keep R5 1.5u Super keys 
Would also love to have a NorDe kit. Has this been available in beige in recent years? Might have missed it.

[Seoulcialite]

Add a normal spacebar kit. My current 7u spacebar is a banana...

This would be nice. I need an extra 7u, haven't been able to find one

agreed, a separate spacebar kit would be fantastic. please consider

i will make a separate kit for that. i will also make cmyk kit smaller, so it doesn’t cost 60$. i want cmyk to be a nice extra pick-up like 2002 considering that there’re a lot of kits and i want this set to focus on beige.

Would also love to see at least a 7u/6.25u spacebar added somewhere (maybe R0 + R5 kit?)

adding them to bars kit.

Legend!

[ideus]

Is there a date for the OG to run scheduled?

[mcmcmc]

added bars kit & renders with new kitting updated.

Is there a date for the OG to run scheduled?

i plan to run this some time before hineybeige (probably in september), so people that buy my set have enough money to buy hineybeige and other things ex. gmk hasro/sav when they're dropped. i will finalized the kitting and submit for quote within this week cuz gmk is taking months to get quotes now.

[twitchytheinsideman]

added bars kit & renders with new kitting updated.

Is there a date for the OG to run scheduled?

i plan to run this some time before hineybeige (probably in september), so people that buy my set have enough money to buy hineybeige and other things ex. gmk hasro/sav when they're dropped. i will finalized the kitting and submit for quote within this week cuz gmk is taking months to get quotes now.

Personally, I went ahead and bought GMK Classic Beige. Now just waiting for this addon and maybe other addons and HASRO/SAV.

[ideus]

added bars kit & renders with new kitting updated.

Is there a date for the OG to run scheduled?

i plan to run this some time before hineybeige (probably in september), so people that buy my set have enough money to buy hineybeige and other things ex. gmk hasro/sav when they're dropped. i will finalized the kitting and submit for quote within this week cuz gmk is taking months to get quotes now.

Personally, I went ahead and bought GMK Classic Beige. Now just waiting for this addon and maybe other addons and HASRO/SAV.

You are doing your homework. Beige is a classic set that deserves to be in any serious MK aficionado's collection.

[vladimir108]

Ignoring the fact that AltGr as a legend on a 1u keycap barely fits, they’re intentionally not included, same with 1u control.


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HHKB International ... a few sets: GMK Dolch R5, GMK Muted R2, GMK Oblivion V3.1, ...

[ideus]

Ignoring the fact that AltGr as a legend on a 1u keycap barely fits, they’re intentionally not included, same with 1u control.


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HHKB International ... a few sets: GMK Dolch R5, GMK Muted R2, GMK Oblivion V3.1, ...

It is an HHKB with Cherry adapters, is it? That is a niche within a niche.

[vladimir108]

Ignoring the fact that AltGr as a legend on a 1u keycap barely fits, they’re intentionally not included, same with 1u control.


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HHKB International ... a few sets: GMK Dolch R5, GMK Muted R2, GMK Oblivion V3.1, ...

It is an HHKB with Cherry adapters, is it? That is a niche within a niche.

HHKB layout

[stomaha]

Is there any hope for U9 Macro Columns?

[mcmcmc]

Is there any hope for U9 Macro Columns?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110569.0

[stomaha]

Is there any hope for U9 Macro Columns?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110569.0

I don’t think this is going to run. I’ve been following for 18 months, and both Pwner and Ob have shut the discord channels previously dedicated to GMK Macros. Would love to see it revived!

[caap]

Is there any hope for U9 Macro Columns?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110569.0

I don’t think this is going to run. I’ve been following for 18 months, and both Pwner and Ob have shut the discord channels previously dedicated to GMK Macros. Would love to see it revived!

Zambumon said GMK Macros would run alongside his GMK Hebrew Beige set.

https://imgur.com/a/cYoYsHq

[stomaha]

Zambu said about Hebrew Beige that "Likely that we'll change it to some other classic colorway." So, sounds like it won't be beige.

[Dianoda]

Would like to request that the 1u backspace key included in the BAE kit use an arrow legend instead of "back" - Or maybe include both keys?  1u R1 arrow backspace keys exist on a few vintage boards (which are pretty hard to come by these days) and this GB would be a great opportunity to have more made.

[ideus]

I would like to request that the 1u backspace key included in the BAE kit use an arrow legend instead of "back" - Or maybe include both keys?  1u R1 arrow backspace keys exist on a few vintage boards (which are pretty hard to come by these days) and this GB would be a great opportunity to have more made.

I have one of these keys with an arrow, and I like it; yet, I would prefer the key with the legend "back"; therefore, I would vote to keep it as it is designed or add a second one with the arrow.

[ideus]

Any news on quotes yet?

[mcmcmc]

Any news on quotes yet?

nope, i’m still waiting for them to respond.

[bisoromi]

Definitely in for the BAE set

So it would use the ANSI stabs and I'm assuming a dummy switch would have to be used for the pipe switch?

[mcmcmc]

Definitely in for the BAE set

So it would use the ANSI stabs and I'm assuming a dummy switch would have to be used for the pipe switch?

yes, you'll need a dummy switch for the pipe key.

[GMK83]

Any update from GMK?

[mcmcmc]

Pricing updated + my rant.

[ankit]

Regarding GB date, it's set to run in 30/10/22-30/11/22.

Can't wait! Thanks for the update and insight on pricing. Love ya

[ubmit]

gib cmyk

[JQ27]

Any UK vendor support? With the low value of these kits even ordering from mainland Europe is pointless, and we'd have to get it from much further afield, which defeats the point in having local vendors.

[mini_ninja_64]

super cool sets!, looking forward to thiss, shame about the new mold for the BAE as I like ISO

[incrediblejr]

What happened to the kitting of 2002 ? The omission of all 1u makes the kitting look like a WKL only kit but then there is the 1.25u keys, I do not understand the kitting.

[Poesjuh]

The 1u supers that I intended to be in it magically disappeared


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[hkhawk]

Any update when GMK Macros might run?

[CommonCurt]

I be watching...

[VXQN]

I be watching...

Still can't believe this hasn't happened yet.

[mcmcmc]

GB thread is up.