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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1200 on: Thu, 12 November 2015, 18:32:30 »
Zeal, quick question I saw your not above regarding orders with lube, what about the orders with cables? Will those be going out in a similar time frame?

I'm still working through them, and have been shipping orders out with cables. Sorry to keep you guys waiting. :( I'll try to finish them all by next week.
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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1201 on: Thu, 12 November 2015, 21:26:03 »
Just fixed all my chattering keys using the method illustrated above. I noticed the keys that had the issue were ones that the key was engaging when you just tapped the key really lightly, so it occasionally resulted in a double-press when pushed a certain way. This made it easy to diagnose which keys were having the issue as I would tap the key really lightly a few times and see if it would register a click.

I also did not want to desolder my key switches and realized I could reach that contact without removing the key switch and just push the stem down all the way and insert a very thin jewelers screwdriver into the space between the stem and the case and it is just enough room to bend that contact back.. it definitely works 100% for me so far on about 4 switches. Some of the function and lock keys its harder to tell if its chattering.

Thanks guys for all the help in this thread, very useful.

For the record, I soldered at 450 degrees using a small chisel tip.. not sure the measurement.

Can you further detail exactly how you did it through the top? I attempted to do strict's fix using your instructions. From the stem hole I found I was only able to affect the front "half" of leaf bend (the bend facing towards the stem), and wasn't able to do what strict said he did. I tried both pulling and pushing that leaf and couldn't fix the chattering. I did, however, kill the bump a little bit :blank:. Are you levering the switch leaf from the back towards the middle/stem, or pushing it towards the back, away from the stem?

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1202 on: Thu, 12 November 2015, 22:01:02 »
Got my switches, lube, and cable yesterday.

Can't wait to put them in a board

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1203 on: Thu, 12 November 2015, 23:18:43 »
Welp, mye keyboard went haywire are 3 days of use. Keystrokes intermittently dont register, keystrokes appearing after an 8 second lag, weird voodoo stuff like that.

Maybe i have some cold joints. Well the bright side is, i'll be de/resoldering all the connections soon, so we'll see if any chattering develops.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1204 on: Fri, 13 November 2015, 01:49:25 »
Welp, mye keyboard went haywire are 3 days of use. Keystrokes intermittently dont register, keystrokes appearing after an 8 second lag, weird voodoo stuff like that.

Maybe i have some cold joints. Well the bright side is, i'll be de/resoldering all the connections soon, so we'll see if any chattering develops.

Keystrokes appearing after a delay sounds more like a software issue than bad soldering. Could be a faulty controller or it could be your computer.
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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1205 on: Fri, 13 November 2015, 05:33:59 »
Managed to solder my 87 without any issues. I will confirm later with Switch hitter, but none seems to be failing/chattering.


The springs Zeal is selling are copy products made in China, Not from me.    They are pirate copies from my old version, sorry for that. 

I will post soon again.  Thanks!   ;)

Ouch.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1206 on: Fri, 13 November 2015, 08:40:06 »

The springs Zeal is selling are copy products made in China, Not from me.    They are pirate copies from my old version, sorry for that. 

I will post soon again.  Thanks!   ;)

Ouch.

That's not really true.  You even posted a comparison shot proving that it's not true.  ;)  Why bother posting the quote here?

Got my zealios at the same day some SPRiT springs arrived. So why not post here? :))

Although they appear to have the same weight, their "construction" is indeed very different. Yet, couldnt feel any difference, even between the 62g and 65g. Maybe my fingers are broken. :D

By order: Cherry MX clear, Zeal 65g, Sprit 62g gold plated, Sprit 65g "regular"

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1207 on: Fri, 13 November 2015, 11:38:14 »
I don't know why he's so salty about me having 62g/65g/67g springs in Zealios by default. My springs aren't even being sold separately as there's no point anymore, and coil wise they're all different from his offerings.
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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1208 on: Fri, 13 November 2015, 11:40:17 »
I don't know why he's so salty about me having 62g/65g/67g springs in Zealios by default. My springs aren't even being sold separately as there's no point anymore, and coil wise they're all different from his offerings.

Probably because you're taking away customers from him, even though it's not like he was shipping out peoples orders anyways.
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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1209 on: Fri, 13 November 2015, 12:44:57 »
I don't know why he's so salty about me having 62g/65g/67g springs in Zealios by default. My springs aren't even being sold separately as there's no point anymore, and coil wise they're all different from his offerings.

Probably because you're taking away customers from him, even though it's not like he was shipping out peoples orders anyways.

Well he's not a vendor anyway, so if he is worried about losing "customers" then there's another discussion to be having.

But this isn't the place for it, so let's stay on topic here.  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1210 on: Fri, 13 November 2015, 17:59:59 »
I got my shipping notification!! Zeal, you are the best.
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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1211 on: Fri, 13 November 2015, 21:07:25 »
Really excited to get my Zealios and sip sockets and lube. In no rush though as my Infinity ErgoDox is in Massdrop limbo for who knows how long while they fix the connector issues I would have been happier to correct myself.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1212 on: Sat, 14 November 2015, 13:54:33 »
is there any possibility for zealios GB to Europe?

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1213 on: Sat, 14 November 2015, 16:28:16 »
Check his store for currently available stock. He's out of some weights but may be doing another buy for those in the future.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1214 on: Sat, 14 November 2015, 23:24:52 »
Received my Zealios on 29th Oct. Could not for the life of me desolder these darn 4 pin LEDs on a razer BW chroma.
117258-0

Bought flux, Wick, new solder, every damn thing,  didn't work..

Until now!
117260-1

I had to use this, and align it vertically or there'd be some solder left in the hole.
117256-2
Can't wait til I have time for the whole board!

EDIT: I also had to run my iron at 340C, instead of my usual 300C.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1215 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 02:07:29 »
Received my Zealios on 29th Oct. Could not for the life of me desoldering these darn 4 pin LEDs.
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Bought flux, Wick, new solder, ever damn thing,  didn't work..

Until now!
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I had to use this, and align it vertically or there'd be some solder left in the hole.
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Can't wait til I have time for the whole board!

Sweet. Looks like you've found the perfect board for zealios!

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1216 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 09:27:05 »
I am still waiting for my package.


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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1217 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 19:27:22 »
In the meantime..
117319-0

I have no idea what purpose i had in mind when i  did this, other than because i can. I have to say, i never particularly liked linear switches til i tried these clear zealios.
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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1218 on: Mon, 16 November 2015, 00:40:21 »
Still waiting anxiously for the Zealios. My order contained lube so I can understand it being in the last batch.

Just curious, have all 10 of the Bingecap winners shown? You never know...

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1219 on: Mon, 16 November 2015, 06:05:05 »
Still waiting anxiously for the Zealios. My order contained lube so I can understand it being in the last batch.

Just curious, have all 10 of the Bingecap winners shown? You never know...

I think I have counted 5 or 6 so far, so who knows?  :p

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1220 on: Tue, 17 November 2015, 11:32:34 »
117547-0
107 switches. Exactly enough for a blackwidow te and an orbweaver.

Two days, a total of about 5 hours in, and this is all I've  accomplished on this keyboard:
117549-1

That's like, three switches an hour. Also, it looks like the plate is actually soldered to the pcb.
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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1221 on: Thu, 19 November 2015, 18:09:37 »
So I just finished this board and to my surprise I also have chattering issues with a lot of the switches.



8 of them seem to be chattering. I can barely touch the key and it activates.

I've soldered loads of Cherry MX switches before, this is the first time ever I encounter this problem. I soldered with 300 degrees C.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1222 on: Thu, 19 November 2015, 18:15:32 »
I've soldered loads of Cherry MX switches before, this is the first time ever I encounter this problem. I soldered with 300 degrees C.

What do?

Looks like you can open the switches without desoldering so try this :)

So I'm pretty confident I found a very painless fix for the key chattering issue. You need to take a flat jewelers screwdriver and ever-so-lightly bend the inner-most contact toward the center post of the housing. When you are tweaking the contact, you just need to give it 3 or 4 light pushes in the direction of the center post. You should NOT feel like you're bending anything and it should NOT look like you've bent it once you're done if you did it right. The tolerances here are incredibly tight so you just need a very fine adjustment and that should fix it. I was able to fix all 12 of the chattering switches on my Phantom doing this and I didn't have to solder/desolder a single thing. From my testing this does not alter the feel or performance of the switch in any way other than fixing the chattering and early actuation.

I drew a very crude diagram to try to help explain my technique. Basically you take the contact highlighted in blue and lightly nudge it a couple of times towards the center post of the housing in red.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1223 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 04:47:04 »
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107 switches. Exactly enough for a blackwidow te and an orbweaver.

Two days, a total of about 5 hours in, and this is all I've  accomplished on this keyboard:
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That's like, three switches an hour. Also, it looks like the plate is actually soldered to the pcb.
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I had similar....fun.
First 1-2 hour session: 0 switches desoldered.
Second session: 0 switches desoldered
Third session: 1 switch desoldered
Fourth session: 6 switches desoldered
Fifth session: 8
Sixth: 12
...

Hopefully I'll finish sometime before the end of next week.
No chattering so far!

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1224 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 06:55:24 »
(Attachment Link)
107 switches. Exactly enough for a blackwidow te and an orbweaver.

Two days, a total of about 5 hours in, and this is all I've  accomplished on this keyboard:
(Attachment Link)

That's like, three switches an hour. Also, it looks like the plate is actually soldered to the pcb.
(Attachment Link)

I had similar....fun.
First 1-2 hour session: 0 switches desoldered.
Second session: 0 switches desoldered
Third session: 1 switch desoldered
Fourth session: 6 switches desoldered
Fifth session: 8
Sixth: 12
...

Hopefully I'll finish sometime before the end of next week.
No chattering so far!

Glad someone else has my desoldering skills

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1225 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 09:29:02 »
So bending the contact leaf seemed to correct the majority of the chattering due to soldering/melting I had. I still have a couple switches that seem to start chattering again after some use. I'll probably end up replacing those. I do have a bigger overall issue though that I'll get double characters on random keys every once in a while. Not a massive chatter but just a double character. It isn't happening consistently or often. When it does happen I immediately open switch hitter but I'm unable to get that switch to turn red. If no one else is seeing this I'd have to assume it's the same melting/soldering issue but to a much smaller degree. I think I need to start with a new batch and try a super safe soldering method.... which may result in cold joints though.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1226 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 11:21:54 »
Still waiting anxiously for the Zealios. My order contained lube so I can understand it being in the last batch.

Just curious, have all 10 of the Bingecap winners shown? You never know...
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« Reply #1227 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 11:36:31 »
Still waiting anxiously for the Zealios. My order contained lube so I can understand it being in the last batch.

Just curious, have all 10 of the Bingecap winners shown? You never know...
nope.


My order does not have lube, but it is still not showing,  ???

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1228 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 13:40:34 »
I've pretty much shipped everyone's order, people with spring lube should have received notification last night/this morning. I have about 3 or so orders left with cables that I'll try to finish up today. Thanks for everyone's patience and understanding.

@ideus, your order was shipped out on Oct 25. Let me know if you haven't received it by the end of the month.
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« Reply #1229 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 13:45:31 »
Still waiting anxiously for the Zealios. My order contained lube so I can understand it being in the last batch.

Just curious, have all 10 of the Bingecap winners shown? You never know...
nope.
I totally forgot about the possibility of getting a Binge cap. I got my package on Wednesday, and no Binge was to be found. That is okay though, I forgot to be disappointed! Also, my cable that I ordered with my switches is completely fantastic.
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« Reply #1230 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 14:58:21 »
I've pretty much shipped everyone's order, people with spring lube should have received notification last night/this morning. I have about 3 or so orders left with cables that I'll try to finish up today. Thanks for everyone's patience and understanding.

@ideus, your order was shipped out on Oct 25. Let me know if you haven't received it by the end of the month.


I will let you know, thank you very much for the feedback.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1231 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 19:49:40 »
So the chattering issues mentioned here appeared only after soldering? Or would it still be wise to check every switch before soldering?

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« Reply #1232 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 22:09:28 »
hope there will be a 2nd round. $0.75 per switch is really a good deal.
i really want it, but 200$ for 200 switch i cant afford it :(

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« Reply #1233 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 22:55:45 »
hope there will be a 2nd round. $0.75 per switch is really a good deal.
i really want it, but 200$ for 200 switch i cant afford it :(

Pretty sure they're just regular stock in his store now.
Could be proven otherwise, though.

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« Reply #1234 on: Sat, 21 November 2015, 01:13:06 »
WOO I got my order today maybe one day after getting shipping confirmation from the post. I'd take pictures but my room's a mess. Thanks a bunch Zeal!

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« Reply #1235 on: Sat, 21 November 2015, 03:23:18 »
So the chattering issues mentioned here appeared only after soldering? Or would it still be wise to check every switch before soldering?

One person had a single purple stem that was missing half a leg so I'm planning to open and check all of mine before soldering (they're going in a non open-able plate) but the chattering issue only happens when you solder them the wrong way.

Reports suggest it's not related to heat so to avoid bending the leaf relative to the slider I will be soldering from the thin sides of the legs with my toes crossed (fingers will be busy :)))
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« Reply #1236 on: Sat, 21 November 2015, 08:37:13 »
Alright, I finished soldering them all in and am now typing on them for the very first time. Very nice! A nice upgrade from MX Clears. Thanks Zeal!

BTW, I got 0 chattery switches out of 66, and am a total n00b at soldering.

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« Reply #1237 on: Sat, 21 November 2015, 14:47:05 »
I got mine yesterday. They're really nice from what I can tell so far! Now I'm regretting not ordering more of the 62g since they're out of stock on the site. :(

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« Reply #1238 on: Sun, 22 November 2015, 11:13:16 »
I put together my Orion v2 yesterday, used the 65g Zealio switches and I did not have a problem with a single switch. I kept my soldering iron on 290 C and made sure just to get the it hot enough for the solder to flow in the switch post holes.
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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1239 on: Sun, 22 November 2015, 21:03:58 »
I put together my Orion v2 yesterday, used the 65g Zealio switches and I did not have a problem with a single switch. I kept my soldering iron on 290 C and made sure just to get the it hot enough for the solder to flow in the switch post holes.

What did you think of the switches I sent you?

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« Reply #1240 on: Sun, 22 November 2015, 22:11:22 »
I put together my Orion v2 yesterday, used the 65g Zealio switches and I did not have a problem with a single switch. I kept my soldering iron on 290 C and made sure just to get the it hot enough for the solder to flow in the switch post holes.

What did you think of the switches I sent you?

I like the feel the feel of the lubed zealios, I never tried lubed switches before so it felt pretty to me. Although it feels a little lighter with the lube, the bump feels a slightly muffled as well. I'd say the zealio beat the clear but the lubed clear beat the lubed zealio switches. I didn't lube my Orion but I'm still quite satisfied with it. :thumb:
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« Reply #1241 on: Mon, 23 November 2015, 02:12:56 »
I've now done a second board with Zealios (65g this time, rather than the 67g of the first) and again have 0 problem keys. To be honest, the soldering is even worse this time - I somehow got worse at it, and I'd be ashamed if anyone else saw the bottom of this PCB.* It makes me really doubt that soldering is at issue unless people are jamming the iron all the way down under the pad and somehow touching the switch bottom, or at putting on so much solder that it's dripping through the hole and melting the area around the pin. Are the chattering keys showing up for people with PCB builds, or handwire? I could see a handwire build going a bit more awry heat-wise, but I've never done one so not sure.

Impressions - the 65g feel much closer to ergo clears than the 67g do. It's amazing that 2g of resistance can make this much difference. I think I overall prefer the 67g - they feel much snappier, there's a really nice bounceback after the keypress which is missing to some small degree in the 65g (though it's still present, just a bit less). I prefer heavier switches in general though so YMMV. The 67g are also a more "unique" switch to me - again, the 65g are pretty close to ergos to me, while the 67g don't feel like any other switch I've tried (including Topre, though I understand the comparison now). Hopefully the 62g tactile come back with round 2 so I can be financially irresponsible enough to build a 3rd Zealios board!

* A fully transparent case was a bad choice in this regard, as cool as it looks otherwise.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1242 on: Mon, 23 November 2015, 08:21:31 »
Anyone build a board with 65g alphas and 67g mods? Getting a 60 for some unique layout love and thinking that this might be an equally cool experience. Just wondering if it is worth grabbing maybe 30 or so more Zealios. Thanks again.

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« Reply #1243 on: Mon, 23 November 2015, 08:28:34 »
I have a real dilemma now. I bought a perplz plate from LeandreN, but i also have GMK QMX dampeners coming, and they don't go with plates. What to do...
Has anyone tried QMX dampeners with these switches?

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1244 on: Mon, 23 November 2015, 08:32:28 »
Anyone build a board with 65g alphas and 67g mods? Getting a 60 for some unique layout love and thinking that this might be an equally cool experience. Just wondering if it is worth grabbing maybe 30 or so more Zealios. Thanks again.

In my experience making a board with differing weights is a bad idea.  We have been using uniform boards since we starting using computers and I think we have learned to use it like that and nonuniform weight will actually be unnatural, but this is probably just taste and the only way to know is to try it yourself.

I've now done a second board with Zealios (65g this time, rather than the 67g of the first) and again have 0 problem keys. To be honest, the soldering is even worse this time - I somehow got worse at it, and I'd be ashamed if anyone else saw the bottom of this PCB.* It makes me really doubt that soldering is at issue unless people are jamming the iron all the way down under the pad and somehow touching the switch bottom, or at putting on so much solder that it's dripping through the hole and melting the area around the pin. Are the chattering keys showing up for people with PCB builds, or handwire? I could see a handwire build going a bit more awry heat-wise, but I've never done one so not sure.

Impressions - the 65g feel much closer to ergo clears than the 67g do. It's amazing that 2g of resistance can make this much difference. I think I overall prefer the 67g - they feel much snappier, there's a really nice bounceback after the keypress which is missing to some small degree in the 65g (though it's still present, just a bit less). I prefer heavier switches in general though so YMMV. The 67g are also a more "unique" switch to me - again, the 65g are pretty close to ergos to me, while the 67g don't feel like any other switch I've tried (including Topre, though I understand the comparison now). Hopefully the 62g tactile come back with round 2 so I can be financially irresponsible enough to build a 3rd Zealios board!

* A fully transparent case was a bad choice in this regard, as cool as it looks otherwise.

I first did my gaming board (octagon) with 65g clears but they turned out to be too heavy for constant spamming of keys, so I've changed it to 62g.  Now I have my work board with 65g's and am thinking that it might be a little too light, or at least that 67g might feel better.  I don't have 67g zealios for a full board so I'm going to do a spring swap, you should know that you can get 62g from sprit.  Concerning springs I tried sprit's 62g's and 65g's vs zeals counterparts and I didn't feel any difference.  But I'm not 100% sure, it would be nice to get a confirmation of this from someone else who has tried it.  I have some 67g's from originative and am going to use them to spring swap, I'm going to check if they feel the same as zeal's 67g though first (I have 10x of them), does anyone here know if they feel the same?
Leopold FC900 w/ 67g Purple Zealios - Silver Duck Octagon w/ 62 Purple Zealios

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1245 on: Mon, 23 November 2015, 08:33:46 »
I have a real dilemma now. I bought a perplz plate from LeandreN, but i also have GMK QMX dampeners coming, and they don't go with plates. What to do...
Has anyone tried QMX dampeners with these switches?

I have QMX clips coming in today to play with (assuming the mail person doesn't take my package back to HQ). I actually built up my FaceW as PCB mount for the purpose of eventually testing it with QMX Clips, but I've come to really like PCB mount switches. It feels more light-touch springy than my the steel plate of my Poker 2.

You should add Gateron Blue's and a second PCB to your LeandreN order and try Zealio's PCB mount :)

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1246 on: Mon, 23 November 2015, 11:42:28 »
Actually I have both blues and more PCBs :)
I'll try out a few combos.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1247 on: Mon, 23 November 2015, 15:14:27 »
On my 2 zealio boards they both have 2x chattering switches even though I did quite extensive testing before putting it together, so annoying :(  Almost as if the chattering appeared suddenly, but I can't be sure. 
Leopold FC900 w/ 67g Purple Zealios - Silver Duck Octagon w/ 62 Purple Zealios

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1248 on: Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:21:12 »
bingecap, get!

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES (Shipping)
« Reply #1249 on: Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:49:15 »
I've now done a second board with Zealios (65g this time, rather than the 67g of the first) and again have 0 problem keys. To be honest, the soldering is even worse this time - I somehow got worse at it, and I'd be ashamed if anyone else saw the bottom of this PCB.* It makes me really doubt that soldering is at issue unless people are jamming the iron all the way down under the pad and somehow touching the switch bottom, or at putting on so much solder that it's dripping through the hole and melting the area around the pin. Are the chattering keys showing up for people with PCB builds, or handwire? I could see a handwire build going a bit more awry heat-wise, but I've never done one so not sure.

Impressions - the 65g feel much closer to ergo clears than the 67g do. It's amazing that 2g of resistance can make this much difference. I think I overall prefer the 67g - they feel much snappier, there's a really nice bounceback after the keypress which is missing to some small degree in the 65g (though it's still present, just a bit less). I prefer heavier switches in general though so YMMV. The 67g are also a more "unique" switch to me - again, the 65g are pretty close to ergos to me, while the 67g don't feel like any other switch I've tried (including Topre, though I understand the comparison now). Hopefully the 62g tactile come back with round 2 so I can be financially irresponsible enough to build a 3rd Zealios board!

* A fully transparent case was a bad choice in this regard, as cool as it looks otherwise.

What type of soldering iron are you using? If you're using some cheapo without temp regulation that actually might be helping keep you from melting the base as it wouldn't be capable of holding a consistent temperature. The downside is sloppy soldering and cold joints.