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Well if Our Lord and Savior says so..
« on: Sun, 18 February 2018, 12:38:44 »
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Question to Vinyl peeps..


How is it possible to remove vibration from the record player, if the sound output device is in the same room/ close vicinity
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Re: Well if Our Lord and Savior says so..
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 18 February 2018, 12:47:09 »
Don't stand the turntable on the speakers.\or stuff touching them if possible. Look for something to weigh the table down so it doesn't vibrate as easily (some fancy tables had literally kilos of concrete in them)
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Re: Well if Our Lord and Savior says so..
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 18 February 2018, 12:58:05 »
Quote from: Hak Foo on Sun, 18 February 2018, 12:47:09
Don't stand the turntable on the speakers.\or stuff touching them if possible. Look for something to weigh the table down so it doesn't vibrate as easily (some fancy tables had literally kilos of concrete in them)

But vinyl itself is so thin,  and big woofers move so much air.
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Re: Well if Our Lord and Savior says so..
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 18 February 2018, 13:17:04 »
A tractor beam to keep the player off the floor, and a statis field for the phonograph, to redirect those pesking sound waves.
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Re: Well if Our Lord and Savior says so..
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 18 February 2018, 13:21:08 »
Quote from: csmertx on Sun, 18 February 2018, 13:17:04
A tractor beam to keep the player off the floor, and a statis field for the phonograph, to redirect those pesking sound waves.

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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 18 February 2018, 13:56:26 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 February 2018, 13:21:08
Quote from: csmertx on Sun, 18 February 2018, 13:17:04
A tractor beam to keep the player off the floor, and a statis field for the phonograph, to redirect those pesking sound waves.

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Re: Well if Our Lord and Savior says so..
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 18 February 2018, 15:07:29 »
I have my turntables on multiple carpet squares, the rubber-backed kind, about 3-4 layers, cut to fit. Works well but looks rough.

A better way is with sound-deadening gel-like feet, and a sorbothane mat is probably the gold standard.
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Re: Well if Our Lord and Savior says so..
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 18 February 2018, 15:19:57 »
As far as "These sound better" goes, the record being held up is a very bad example.

All early Beatles albums should be bought in mono, John Lennon said so. He said that they spent hours getting the mono mixes "just right" then went out and got stoned, and then came back inside and did the stereo mixes in a matter of minutes while laughing and goofing around.

Besides that, most of the early ones like "Meet the Beatles" had "fake" stereo mixing that was artificially produced and sounded really bad.
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Re: Well if Our Lord and Savior says so..
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 19 February 2018, 18:20:02 »
Ugh.. This "vinyl sounds better" fallacy has to be one of the most annoying ever.

But I guess it could be a good litmus test to see how good one's logic skills are.
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« Reply #9 on: Mon, 19 February 2018, 18:38:33 »
Logic, hmmm ....

Sound producing devices are = analog
Sound itself is compression waves in air = analog
Loudspeakers create/re-created sound wave compressions in air = analog
The inner ear is a set of mechanical devices moving back and forth = analog

There is no digital component in this ecosystem, unless something is converted to digital and then re-converted to analog along the way.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/which-sounds-better-analog-or-digital-music/
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Re: Well if Our Lord and Savior says so..
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 19 February 2018, 21:15:49 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 19 February 2018, 18:38:33
Logic, hmmm ....

Sound producing devices are = analog
Sound itself is compression waves in air = analog
Loudspeakers create/re-created sound wave compressions in air = analog
The inner ear is a set of mechanical devices moving back and forth = analog

There is no digital component in this ecosystem, unless something is converted to digital and then re-converted to analog along the way.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/which-sounds-better-analog-or-digital-music/


Nothing in reality is Digital..

Even Digital is fundamentally Analog.. There's no such thing as 0 and 1..  it's an arbitrary designation of cognition/ faith/ god
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Re: Well if Our Lord and Savior says so..
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 19 February 2018, 21:19:18 »
Quote from: ThoughtArtist on Mon, 19 February 2018, 18:20:02
Ugh.. This "vinyl sounds better" fallacy has to be one of the most annoying ever.

But I guess it could be a good litmus test to see how good one's logic skills are.



It sounds different..

Better is an arbitrary method..

Better is dependent on what arbitrary criteria the listener is trying to optimize.



For vinyl-hipsters,  the I'm a special butterfly, anti-mainstream, ludite, old is kewl,   That is more important.. and Black fills that role.

In every way, vinyl to them is  CORRECTLY Better than other mediums.


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