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Offline dante

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I hope Matias won't mind me posting this here - it is certainly not to derail his 60% board because they are both very different.

It will be available soon in both Matias Clicky and Quiet variants.

I'm more excited about Matias 60% due to the low profile - but it has been such a long dry spell for Alps boards I'm gonna snatch each board up.  Something to hold me over until Matias releases his 60% versions.

Hopefully KBP will be pleased enough with the sales that they will sell their upcoming V80 w/ Matias switches as well.  :thumb:

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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 22:28:49 »

I hope Matias won't mind me posting this here - it is certainly not to derail his 60% board because they are both very different.

It will be available soon in both Matias Clicky and Quiet variants.



Really great to see this happening.  They're following the standard 60% layout, which many users are accustomed to (and different from ours)...

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I'm more excited about Matias 60% due to the low profile - but it has been such a long dry spell for Alps boards I'm gonna snatch each board up.  Hopefully KBP will be pleased enough with the sales that they will sell their upcoming V80 w/ Matias switches as well.  :thumb:



Totally agree.  Looking forward to the day when ALPS switches regain their widespread popularity.


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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 22:44:35 »
Now we just need an ALPS 75% board :D

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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 07:48:49 »
Now we just need an ALPS 75% board :D

Hopefully once the Matias PBT sets are underway and stem/stabilizer specs can be confirmed more PCB's can be setup for hybrid Cherry/Alps compatibility.

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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 15:02:20 »
Now we just need an ALPS 75% board :D

Hopefully once the Matias PBT sets are underway and stem/stabilizer specs can be confirmed more PCB's can be setup for hybrid Cherry/Alps compatibility.


Yes, that's the goal.  i already have mounting plate samples that support both simultaneously, but it looks like they need to be thicker, so we're doing another set.  Will post photos soon...


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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 01 September 2014, 09:33:54 »
OMG, this board looks amazing! Now where are the keysets? hehe  :cool:

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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 01 September 2014, 09:41:12 »

OMG, this board looks amazing! Now where are the keysets? hehe  :cool:



Here...

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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 01 September 2014, 09:41:45 »

OMG, this board looks amazing! Now where are the keysets? hehe  :cool:



Here...

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This actually is the IC I have been watching. Thanks!  :thumb:

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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 01 September 2014, 13:33:25 »
Matias: are these KBParadise keyboards using your new stabilizers? Or if not, do you know what type of stabilizers they use?

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« Reply #9 on: Mon, 01 September 2014, 14:41:21 »

Matias: are these KBParadise keyboards using your new stabilizers? Or if not, do you know what type of stabilizers they use?



Don't know, but I'd guess they are probably the Costar type.  You'd have to ask them to know for sure.


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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 08 September 2014, 03:35:21 »

Matias: are these KBParadise keyboards using your new stabilizers? Or if not, do you know what type of stabilizers they use?



Don't know, but I'd guess they are probably the Costar type.  You'd have to ask them to know for sure.

Been waiting for this to come out.

I emailed them a while back and asked them to try and find out, but the person could only tell me they will be the same style that Matias uses.
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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 08 September 2014, 09:15:10 »
So far away :(  It's nice to see an Alps 60% with a standard layout and without a funky sized bottom row.  I'm looking forward to them, even though I know I'd be getting one just to  swap out the Mathias Alps for classic Alps.

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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 11 September 2014, 23:05:45 »
This is extremely appealing.    Anything further on access to the rom?   alternate key layouts colemak, dvorak, etc are appealing on these boards.   I'd like to be able to try colemak and managed environments aren't happy about installing applications.
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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 16:36:53 »
Final production photos here:


















Between these two and Matias 60% I'm going to be eating rice and beans for a while  :eek:
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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 16:50:49 »
To many choices....  Going to pull the trigger on something soon  but I keep changing my mind.   I  need a good enough and then an end game.
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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 16:56:04 »
To many choices....  Going to pull the trigger on something soon  but I keep changing my mind.   I  need a good enough and then an end game.

I would completely lose it if KUL came out with a Matias switch 87%.

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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 18:07:49 »
Final production photos here:

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Between these two and Matias 60% I'm going to be eating rice and beans for a while  :eek:

Yep, saw this last night.
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« Reply #17 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 18:23:40 »
Nice work!


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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 18:29:04 »
Nice, but lower case mods? :/

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« Reply #19 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 18:38:16 »
if programmable and bluetooth....  :p
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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 19:10:44 »
if programmable and bluetooth....  :p

From what I've read , and heard it wont have either of those.
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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 19:49:35 »
would be rad if someone got it and got it naked for us :p

and i wanna find out how metal cases sound with matias switches!

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« Reply #22 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 19:58:49 »
would be rad if someone got it and got it naked for us :p

and i wanna find out how metal cases sound with matias switches!

I never even considered if this will work with metal 60% cases .... hmmm....

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« Reply #23 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 20:42:01 »
Since it looks like it comes with the same exact case as the regular V60, they should fit in the same aftermarket cases (some of the dip switches will be covered).
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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:38:13 »
I need someone to pick for me Matias Quiet Click or Matias Click. I currently have 2 keyboards with MX Blacks a Poker 2 with MX Reds and I gave my DS3 with MX Blues to my mother, I miss the click. On the other hand, I also don't have a tactile board without the click. I also have no problem with noise and really want to try ALPS.

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« Reply #25 on: Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:41:38 »
The feel of the quiet and clicky switches is relatively similar. The clicky ones are pretty loud. The quiet ones are about as quiet as a mechanical keyboard gets. It’s pretty hard for someone to recommend one or the other without knowing your environment/preferences.

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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:43:15 »
When in doubt, buy both.  Add enough rice and beans or ramen to make it happen.

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« Reply #27 on: Tue, 23 September 2014, 18:02:07 »
The people on my TeamSpeak and Mumble servers voted I go with the Matias Quiet Click so I went with that, though I think they may be biased due to me using my Blue Yeti mic from time to time.

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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:07:09 »
Just pre-ordered the clicky version.  I'm debating on if I'm going to also order the quiet version.
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« Reply #29 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 12:02:26 »
Just pre-ordered the clicky version.  I'm debating on if I'm going to also order the quiet version.

KBP is keeping an eye on the V60MTS sales.  Not only will they consider making a V80MTS but will possibly consider carrying Tao Hao Alps doubleshots as well.

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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 12:03:44 »
KBP is keeping an eye on the V60MTS sales.  Not only will they consider making a V80MTS but will possibly consider carrying Tao Hao Alps doubleshots as well.

Do you have a source for this information?

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 12:06:28 »
KBP is keeping an eye on the V60MTS sales.  Not only will they consider making a V80MTS but will possibly consider carrying Tao Hao Alps doubleshots as well.

Do you have a source for this information?

Via Email.

If anyone else is excited about this contact them at: kbp@kbp.com.tw

It took about 3-4 days to get a reply.  The more people buy these boards and hammer them with interest the more likely they will consider it.

Also - when you buy your V60MTS post photos of it and how well you love it on their Facebook page.

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 12:58:38 »
They changed their slider colors? Huh

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 13:07:52 »
Just pre-ordered the clicky version.  I'm debating on if I'm going to also order the quiet version.

KBP is keeping an eye on the V60MTS sales.  Not only will they consider making a V80MTS but will possibly consider carrying Tao Hao Alps doubleshots as well.

Very nice. Those are some of the things I talked about with them a few months ago through email  :thumb:

I hope they get that Tao Hao Olivetti set.
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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 26 September 2014, 19:26:40 »
If I can't find topre switches I'm thinking Matias Quiet Switches rather than cherry clears will be the way to go with a 60% custom.   If the v60 had the poker 2's programmability I would have jumped on it.   went with a poker 2 for this round of keyboard overspending.
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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 21 October 2014, 09:59:15 »
V60MTS to ship SOON:






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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 21 October 2014, 10:29:23 »
So what stabilizers and keycap posts did the V60MTS end-up with?

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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 21 October 2014, 18:55:43 »
So what stabilizers and keycap posts did the V60MTS end-up with?

I believe they are costar style; have no idea on the posts.  I suspect they will be whatever Matias uses.

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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:05:06 »
So what stabilizers and keycap posts did the V60MTS end-up with?

I suspect they will be whatever Matias uses.

KBParadise told me through email that they would use the same kind as Matias.
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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:08:47 »
Hopefully someone can get one of these and take some teardown pics. Very curious to see what the stabilizers/keycaps are.

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« Reply #41 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 18:33:30 »
Hopefully someone can get one of these and take some teardown pics. Very curious to see what the stabilizers/keycaps are.

Mine is supposed to be delivered on the 4th, I will take some crappy pics if no-one beats me to it.


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« Reply #42 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 19:36:25 »
I had an ALPS keyboard before I switched to a cherry. The main reason was there were no replacement sets for the ALPS available then. Most of the GBs and vendor's sets were for cherry switches. Is that different now? Is there a hidden source of ALPS replacement sets? The stabilizers are now standardized?

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« Reply #43 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:38:01 »
There are plenty of "salvage" choices.  Those of us who are ALPS fans just tend to scavenge what we can from vintage dirt-cheap boards.  The Apple Extended Keyboard series are cheap and widely available, and give you almost a full keyset that works on many ALPS boards.
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« Reply #44 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 12:30:27 »
X-Post with What did you get in the mail today?
KBP V60MTS-Q  :p



I am loving the feel of the switches.
I don't know if the mix in stabilizers is a good or bad thing. Also, the spacebar is slightly warped.

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« Reply #45 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 15:38:27 »
X-Post with What did you get in the mail today?
KBP V60MTS-Q  :p
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I am loving the feel of the switches.
I don't know if the mix in stabilizers is a good or bad thing. Also, the spacebar is slightly warped.

Thanks for the pics. Just got mine today as well. I will post some pictures after a type on it for a bit.

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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 16:28:46 »
Not liking the keycaps.

It also looks like getting a full set a keycaps for this board is going to be harder due to the mismatch studs.

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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 21:37:47 »
Not liking the keycaps.
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It also looks like getting a full set a keycaps for this board is going to be harder due to the mismatch studs.

Yeah not liking the keycaps either, but was pretty sure that would be the case before I made the purchase.

One of my space bars is warped also.

I'm also wondering how replacement spacebars are going to pan out.
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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 22:13:02 »
Looks like its time to disassemble the whole board and mod the plate for some plate mount cherry/costar stabs  :thumb:

Can one of you guys (red or commoncurt) measure the spacing on the stabilizers for the spacebar?  Looks pretty standard for cherry, but would be nice to confirm. 
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Re: KBParadise V60MTS (Matias switches) In Bound @ MechanicalKeyboards.com
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 22:48:06 »
Looks like its time to disassemble the whole board and mod the plate for some plate mount cherry/costar stabs  :thumb:
Why would you want to do that? All the nice old Alps keycaps use standard Alps-style stabilizers. If you mod the plate to use Costar-style stabilizers, you’ll be stuck with either really crappy keycaps or else an absurdly expensive one-off set from SP.