Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 October 2017, 06:07:49
I am helping my friend, who is also the author and the maker of this keyboard set, posting this IC thread.
This keyboard is inspired by an old IBM keyboard called "PCjr".
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The name CA66 came from French, "66 avec de la corniche". A 66 keyboard with cornice.
Case design: Yock
PCB design: Bobnaive
Render：
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Here are some photos from Round 1 held in China for you guys to check out：
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More photos: https://imgur.com/a/PcfAP (https://imgur.com/a/PcfAP)
Album of building log: https://www.flickr.com/photos/149475414@N03/albums/72157688199776126 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/149475414@N03/albums/72157688199776126)
PCB layouts:
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Features:
1. Anodized aluminum case, plate + PCB
2. 2 top case versions, HHKB like and WKL like（No brass logo if you choose WKL）
3. Iso, split space bar supported
4. RGB led animation（indicator function is optimizing at the moment）
5. TypeC interface
6. TMK online editor made by YANG
Link（English translation is progressing）：http://ydkb.io/?ca66# (http://ydkb.io/?ca66#)
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Price:
Around 300USD without shipping fee. (not the final price.)
To be decided:
1. brass plate option
2. QMK supporting
3. color options（default color of R1 is dark gray）
Please feel free to leave any comment and question. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
10/4 Online Editor link updated. English translation is progressing.
10/7 Building log of R1 and things to be decided added.
Estimated price added.
10/31 1. PCB now has some friendly signs to notify whether you put your switches in the right place or not.
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2. Added some protection to screw holes to prevent screws getting stripped.
3. Making an investigation form for GH. (form coming soon.)
11/2 IC form added. Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
11/4 PCB remake for switches orientation.
12/6 Second PCB sample in progress.
English version for online editor is almost finished.
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1/5/2018 GB sub form: https://goo.gl/forms/dPy287zMTW4LHqmC3
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 October 2017, 06:08:59
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Tue, 03 October 2017, 06:12:04
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Post by: HongguChaego on Tue, 03 October 2017, 06:53:54
But type-c... type-c... T.T
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 03 October 2017, 07:34:25
Post by: ptiede on Tue, 03 October 2017, 07:39:22
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Post by: iliptikal on Tue, 03 October 2017, 07:54:45
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Post by: hoq on Tue, 03 October 2017, 08:23:00
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jWHC3pM/0/735a1260/X3/i-jWHC3pM-X3.jpg)
↓The rendor of MAXKEY Flamingo and CA66.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-rj8Mjcz/0/f00e2068/X3/i-rj8Mjcz-X3.jpg)
Post by: audax989 on Tue, 03 October 2017, 08:25:55
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Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 October 2017, 09:54:29
Yes, this keyboard is very impressive in my hand. The outward is very classic and the CNC surface is very smooth to touch.Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jWHC3pM/0/735a1260/X3/i-jWHC3pM-X3.jpg)
↓The rendor of MAXKEY Flamingo and CA66.Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-rj8Mjcz/0/f00e2068/X3/i-rj8Mjcz-X3.jpg)
Thanks for photos supporting. :p :p :p
Ooo! Quite nice. Any chance it will run QMK?
Probably not. Already built a Tmk online editor for it. :-X
Post by: sysfury on Tue, 03 October 2017, 10:36:24
Any chance of them doing a beige cerakote that could look like the original inspiration?
I would also very much want to have this in beige!
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Post by: ptiede on Tue, 03 October 2017, 10:48:39
Any chance of them doing a beige cerakote that could look like the original inspiration?
I would also very much want to have this in beige!
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Same for me!
Also when do you plan on having the GB?
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 October 2017, 10:57:00
Nice! I’ve been a big fan of this board since I saw it on taobao a few weeks back. Yes, please! Any chance of them doing a beige cerakote that could look like the original inspiration?
Any chance of them doing a beige cerakote that could look like the original inspiration?
I would also very much want to have this in beige!
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Any chance of them doing a beige cerakote that could look like the original inspiration?
I would also very much want to have this in beige!
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Same for me!
Also when do you plan on having the GB?
Unfortunately it's not available due to the technique issue of the anodizing factory. Colors like pink or pinky blue also are unavailable. :-X
They are still considering where to hold the GB. It won't be taking a long time I think.
Post by: odd on Tue, 03 October 2017, 11:09:03
Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 03 October 2017, 11:21:50
Someone told me a round-2 was coming.
Here it is!
Count me SO IN. I don't care how much it costs ;)
Will there be an option without the golden badge?
Post by: jbondeson on Tue, 03 October 2017, 11:37:52
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 03 October 2017, 12:39:33
Post by: KaosJ on Tue, 03 October 2017, 12:58:00
Any idea on the price with Brass plate?
Post by: klove4252 on Tue, 03 October 2017, 15:22:18
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 03 October 2017, 15:28:10
Post by: poolside on Tue, 03 October 2017, 16:27:10
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Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 03 October 2017, 19:16:59
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 October 2017, 19:39:44
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 October 2017, 20:47:19
Just a couple days ago, I spotted one of these over on Reddit, and thought "OH MAN I HAVE TO HAVE IT!"
Someone told me a round-2 was coming.
Here it is!
Count me SO IN. I don't care how much it costs ;)
Will there be an option without the golden badge?
You mean a HHKB like layout without a badge?
Yes, but it will look pretty empty without the brass badge. :blank:
Could it be use plate-less? A case like this would be ideal to have a well supported and solid PCB mounted keyboard.
Probably not. The plate is combined with top case, so there will be no screw holes in bottom case.
That purple :o
Any idea on the price with Brass plate?
Yeah that purple is mine. ;D
Yock said that brass plates might be possible, if he can find a good factory to do it.
Price is estimated right now.
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 03 October 2017, 21:05:36
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 October 2017, 21:39:39
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 03 October 2017, 21:53:49
Have you seen the price of this at Taobao? It is just insane. Doubtful the OP has anything better than that.
Care to share? I saw the taobao link but I assume the price is no longer correct? Unless they actually charged a grand and a half for these (seems unlikely, the 9999 yen number sounds like a placeholder) in which case I'll respectfully bow out while ahead and spend my money on a year's worth of Burger King instead.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 October 2017, 22:05:07
Have you seen the price of this at Taobao? It is just insane. Doubtful the OP has anything better than that.
Care to share? I saw the taobao link but I assume the price is no longer correct? Unless they actually charged a grand and a half for these (seems unlikely, the 9999 yen number sounds like a placeholder) in which case I'll respectfully bow out while ahead and spend my money on a year's worth of Burger King instead.
It seems we are talking about the same price here, let see if it is wrong, otherwise, I am out.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 October 2017, 22:10:31
Hi Barry ^^
Hello my man Caleb. :thumb:
Have you seen the price of this at Taobao? It is just insane. Doubtful the OP has anything better than that.
Have you seen the price of this at Taobao? It is just insane. Doubtful the OP has anything better than that.
Care to share? I saw the taobao link but I assume the price is no longer correct? Unless they actually charged a grand and a half for these (seems unlikely, the 9999 yen number sounds like a placeholder) in which case I'll respectfully bow out while ahead and spend my money on a year's worth of Burger King instead.
If you see 9999RMB on taobao GB link, it is just a way to avoid people to place an order after GB period.
The GB page will leave it and change the price to a ridiculous number as a memento. They will alert people not to buy it in detail.
R1 is around 250USD for each. Don't really know if it's gonna remain the same at the moment.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 October 2017, 22:12:36
Hi Barry ^^
Hello my man Caleb. :thumb:Have you seen the price of this at Taobao? It is just insane. Doubtful the OP has anything better than that.Have you seen the price of this at Taobao? It is just insane. Doubtful the OP has anything better than that.
Care to share? I saw the taobao link but I assume the price is no longer correct? Unless they actually charged a grand and a half for these (seems unlikely, the 9999 yen number sounds like a placeholder) in which case I'll respectfully bow out while ahead and spend my money on a year's worth of Burger King instead.
If you see 9999RMB on taobao GB link, it is just a way to avoid people to place an order after GB period.
The GB page will leave it and change the price to a ridiculous number as a memento. They will alert people not to buy it in detail.
R1 is around 250USD for each. Don't really know if it's gonna remain the same at the moment.
You chosen the right word for it: ridiculous.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 October 2017, 22:16:46
Hi Barry ^^
Hello my man Caleb. :thumb:Have you seen the price of this at Taobao? It is just insane. Doubtful the OP has anything better than that.Have you seen the price of this at Taobao? It is just insane. Doubtful the OP has anything better than that.
Care to share? I saw the taobao link but I assume the price is no longer correct? Unless they actually charged a grand and a half for these (seems unlikely, the 9999 yen number sounds like a placeholder) in which case I'll respectfully bow out while ahead and spend my money on a year's worth of Burger King instead.
If you see 9999RMB on taobao GB link, it is just a way to avoid people to place an order after GB period.
The GB page will leave it and change the price to a ridiculous number as a memento. They will alert people not to buy it in detail.
R1 is around 250USD for each. Don't really know if it's gonna remain the same at the moment.
You chosen the right word for it: ridiculous.
Haha it did blow my mind when I was a newbie seeing this kind of things for the first time. :p
Post by: giangpn on Tue, 03 October 2017, 22:20:50
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Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 October 2017, 22:38:08
this looks really good; however, can we control medias player with this? I don't think I see any medias control function in the app picture.
Yes there is. Please check.
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English translation is working on. ;D
Is there going to be a limited number or raffle?
Don't know yet. Won't be a raffle I think.
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 03 October 2017, 22:46:27
this looks really good; however, can we control medias player with this? I don't think I see any medias control function in the app picture.
It's TMK, so yes, it supports media functions. The screenshot above, depicting their GUI, shows the first tab active. When you switch to the next tab you'll see the media player options. All is good.
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 03 October 2017, 23:08:35
If you see 9999RMB on taobao GB link, it is just a way to avoid people to place an order after GB period.
The GB page will leave it and change the price to a ridiculous number as a memento. They will alert people not to buy it in detail.
R1 is around 250USD for each. Don't really know if it's gonna remain the same at the moment.
Yea that's what I figured, thank you for clearing that up!
250 bucks seems super reasonable, especially if we're talking about a reasonably sized kit rather than just the case. If that's how it's gonna be, or even if the price increases slightly, I'd love to participate.
Looking forward to further updates!
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 October 2017, 23:33:15
this looks really good; however, can we control medias player with this? I don't think I see any medias control function in the app picture.
It's TMK, so yes, it supports media functions. The screenshot above, depicting their GUI, shows the first tab active. When you switch to the next tab you'll see the media player options. All is good.
Thanks. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
If you see 9999RMB on taobao GB link, it is just a way to avoid people to place an order after GB period.
The GB page will leave it and change the price to a ridiculous number as a memento. They will alert people not to buy it in detail.
R1 is around 250USD for each. Don't really know if it's gonna remain the same at the moment.
Yea that's what I figured, thank you for clearing that up!
250 bucks seems super reasonable, especially if we're talking about a reasonably sized kit rather than just the case. If that's how it's gonna be, or even if the price increases slightly, I'd love to participate.
Looking forward to further updates!
Since Round 1 was a debut and an experiment, price is gonna be higher.
But I can guarantee the quality to you guys, it looks amazing on my desk. :thumb: ;D
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 04 October 2017, 00:11:26
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Post by: bthezebra on Wed, 04 October 2017, 01:07:57
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Post by: DALExSNAIL on Wed, 04 October 2017, 01:16:54
this is tempting. shame there is no 7u option, then i would have no choice. Can't decide how i feel about the mod lining up with z instead of an offset.
I'm a petty guy, but jesussssssssssss.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 04 October 2017, 01:18:20
this is tempting. shame there is no 7u option, then i would have no choice. Can't decide how i feel about the mod lining up with z instead of an offset.
I'm a petty guy, but jesussssssssssss.
yeah that's wild
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 04 October 2017, 01:20:37
this is tempting. shame there is no 7u option, then i would have no choice. Can't decide how i feel about the mod lining up with z instead of an offset.
I'm a petty guy, but jesussssssssssss.
yeah that's wild
Why? I like it and may still buy it. But the fact that the left side is aligned and the right side isn’t screws with my brain. Are we not allowed to have differing opinions? It’s not like I was ****ting on the design.
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Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Wed, 04 October 2017, 04:28:36
Will there be both a WKL and badged version of the case then?
I don't think so. It's hard to put the badge in a WKL top and doesn't look awkward.
I had tried it myself before and it looked strange anyway.
this is tempting. shame there is no 7u option, then i would have no choice. Can't decide how i feel about the mod lining up with z instead of an offset.
I will confirm with them about 7u spacebar supporting. By looking the layout pic it is possible.
this is tempting. shame there is no 7u option, then i would have no choice. Can't decide how i feel about the mod lining up with z instead of an offset.
I'm a petty guy, but jesussssssssssss.
yeah that's wild
Peace. ;D
We are just all KB lovers who want to buy ideal keyboards for ourselves. :thumb:
Post by: Evilocity on Wed, 04 October 2017, 10:53:11
Post by: giHefca on Wed, 04 October 2017, 13:55:57
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 04 October 2017, 15:33:55
Is there any R1 for sale? :P
learn chinese and you can find one
Post by: Evilocity on Wed, 04 October 2017, 17:00:15
Is there any R1 for sale? :P
learn chinese and you can find one
Thank goodness for Google translate, albeit very inaccurate.
Can you point me to the right direction? The one in Taobao is just a "memento".
Post by: Trente on Wed, 04 October 2017, 21:51:32
Post by: Retox on Thu, 05 October 2017, 01:36:57
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 05 October 2017, 08:55:05
Is there any R1 for sale? :P
learn chinese and you can find one
Thank goodness for Google translate, albeit very inaccurate.
Can you point me to the right direction? The one in Taobao is just a "memento".
Yeah you need to learn Mandarin first. :eek:
I haven't seen any one want to sell it so far.
In purple to fit with GMK Plum :love:
I'm glad you love that purple too. ;D
I asked Yock to do customize it for me, so it's one and only in R1.
Really like this design ! I had noticed this board when I surfed on Taobao, but unfortunately the group buy for R1 just ended at that time, so really looking forward to an Geekhack GB. One thing I would really love to see is the support of alps switch if possible, even if just for switch plate since there is still option for hand wiring. Also maybe adding some cool looking color, like those retro green/blue color and red on fridges, or classic ivory color (though these might not be possible with anodize but only spray color)
Thanks for the supporting. ;D
Alps compatibility is not possible, and colors you mentioned were pretty hard to do it with anodizing.
We'll try to satisfy everyone with as many color options as we can.
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 05 October 2017, 10:02:59
I definitely need at least one of these in my collection.
Post by: fnurl on Thu, 05 October 2017, 12:10:27
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 October 2017, 12:49:46
Post by: ptiede on Fri, 06 October 2017, 12:55:56
The mini USB port is a very reliable solution for keyboards. Why having a USB-c? Unless it is easily replaceable, like phone ports that are in a separated small board, it is a less reliable solution of an otherwise interesting design.
Usb-C is the future and is a much more sturdy plug. I love that they are using them on this board.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 October 2017, 12:56:54
The mini USB port is a very reliable solution for keyboards. Why having a USB-c? Unless it is easily replaceable, like phone ports that are in a separated small board, it is a less reliable solution of an otherwise interesting design.
Usb-C is the future and is a much more sturdy plug. I love that they are using them on this board.
Do you have evidence supporting it? Not your love, neither being the future; but, on sturdiness of the port.
Post by: ptiede on Fri, 06 October 2017, 13:09:13
The mini USB port is a very reliable solution for keyboards. Why having a USB-c? Unless it is easily replaceable, like phone ports that are in a separated small board, it is a less reliable solution of an otherwise interesting design.
Usb-C is the future and is a much more sturdy plug. I love that they are using them on this board.
Do you have evidence supporting it? Not your love, neither being the future; but, on sturdiness of the port.
So the thing is min USB if you look at insertion cycle lifetime is actually one of the poorest connectors. It was only made to last 1000 cycles. I think now a good cable can get up to 5000, but Usb-c is rated for at least 10 000 cycles which is a factor of two better.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/8377/usb-typec-connector-specifications-finalized
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 October 2017, 13:48:57
The mini USB port is a very reliable solution for keyboards. Why having a USB-c? Unless it is easily replaceable, like phone ports that are in a separated small board, it is a less reliable solution of an otherwise interesting design.
Usb-C is the future and is a much more sturdy plug. I love that they are using them on this board.
Do you have evidence supporting it? Not your love, neither being the future; but, on sturdiness of the port.
So the thing is min USB if you look at insertion cycle lifetime is actually one of the poorest connectors. It was only made to last 1000 cycles. I think now a good cable can get up to 5000, but Usb-c is rated for at least 10 000 cycles which is a factor of two better.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/8377/usb-typec-connector-specifications-finalized (https://www.anandtech.com/show/8377/usb-typec-connector-specifications-finalized)
An specification is not actual reliability data, it is just the design's purpose, achieving it will depend on manufacturing quality. But, I can see your point. Personally, I have my keyboards always connected to my Thinkpad's port replicators at home and at work, so I never unplug them, however, Mini USB has proved to be reliable enough for keyboard applications, also, I'd prefer the wire at the back, it is a cleaner desk setup, than on the side.
Post by: koduh on Fri, 06 October 2017, 13:54:41
Are you really arguing the reliability of the USB C port? Don't you think Samsung and Google and Apple haven't looked into this? How is that not proof enough. If the professional hardware developers are using USB-C then I'm comfortable in their decision making.The mini USB port is a very reliable solution for keyboards. Why having a USB-c? Unless it is easily replaceable, like phone ports that are in a separated small board, it is a less reliable solution of an otherwise interesting design.
Usb-C is the future and is a much more sturdy plug. I love that they are using them on this board.
Do you have evidence supporting it? Not your love, neither being the future; but, on sturdiness of the port.
So the thing is min USB if you look at insertion cycle lifetime is actually one of the poorest connectors. It was only made to last 1000 cycles. I think now a good cable can get up to 5000, but Usb-c is rated for at least 10 000 cycles which is a factor of two better.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/8377/usb-typec-connector-specifications-finalized (https://www.anandtech.com/show/8377/usb-typec-connector-specifications-finalized)
An specification is not actual reliability data, it is just the design's purpose, achieving it will depend on manufacturing quality. But, I can see your point. Personally, I have my keyboards always connected to my Thinkpad's port replicators at home and at work, so I never unplug them, however, Mini USB has proved to be reliable enough for keyboard applications, also, I'd prefer the wire at the back, it is a cleaner desk setup, than on the side.
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Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 October 2017, 14:04:28
Are you really arguing the reliability of the USB C port? Don't you think Samsung and Google and Apple haven't looked into this? How is that not proof enough. If the professional hardware developers are using USB-C then I'm comfortable in their decision making.The mini USB port is a very reliable solution for keyboards. Why having a USB-c? Unless it is easily replaceable, like phone ports that are in a separated small board, it is a less reliable solution of an otherwise interesting design.
Usb-C is the future and is a much more sturdy plug. I love that they are using them on this board.
Do you have evidence supporting it? Not your love, neither being the future; but, on sturdiness of the port.
So the thing is min USB if you look at insertion cycle lifetime is actually one of the poorest connectors. It was only made to last 1000 cycles. I think now a good cable can get up to 5000, but Usb-c is rated for at least 10 000 cycles which is a factor of two better.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/8377/usb-typec-connector-specifications-finalized (https://www.anandtech.com/show/8377/usb-typec-connector-specifications-finalized)
An specification is not actual reliability data, it is just the design's purpose, achieving it will depend on manufacturing quality. But, I can see your point. Personally, I have my keyboards always connected to my Thinkpad's port replicators at home and at work, so I never unplug them, however, Mini USB has proved to be reliable enough for keyboard applications, also, I'd prefer the wire at the back, it is a cleaner desk setup, than on the side.
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There no need to justify a change made by the industry. It is a fact and it is coming to all of our gadgets sooner or later. I just asked if you had actual reliability data supporting your statement, but you are just echoing the industry's advertising. It is not bad not having facts, must of our comments here are just opinions with no evidence.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 06 October 2017, 14:06:01
Is there any R1 for sale? :P
learn chinese and you can find one
Thank goodness for Google translate, albeit very inaccurate.
Can you point me to the right direction? The one in Taobao is just a "memento".
you'll have to get into the buy/sell/trade QQ channel, but they're not exactly fans of having foreigners in there
Post by: ptiede on Fri, 06 October 2017, 14:18:40
Are you really arguing the reliability of the USB C port? Don't you think Samsung and Google and Apple haven't looked into this? How is that not proof enough. If the professional hardware developers are using USB-C then I'm comfortable in their decision making.The mini USB port is a very reliable solution for keyboards. Why having a USB-c? Unless it is easily replaceable, like phone ports that are in a separated small board, it is a less reliable solution of an otherwise interesting design.
Usb-C is the future and is a much more sturdy plug. I love that they are using them on this board.
Do you have evidence supporting it? Not your love, neither being the future; but, on sturdiness of the port.
So the thing is min USB if you look at insertion cycle lifetime is actually one of the poorest connectors. It was only made to last 1000 cycles. I think now a good cable can get up to 5000, but Usb-c is rated for at least 10 000 cycles which is a factor of two better.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/8377/usb-typec-connector-specifications-finalized (https://www.anandtech.com/show/8377/usb-typec-connector-specifications-finalized)
An specification is not actual reliability data, it is just the design's purpose, achieving it will depend on manufacturing quality. But, I can see your point. Personally, I have my keyboards always connected to my Thinkpad's port replicators at home and at work, so I never unplug them, however, Mini USB has proved to be reliable enough for keyboard applications, also, I'd prefer the wire at the back, it is a cleaner desk setup, than on the side.
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There no need to justify a change made by the industry. It is a fact and it is coming to all of our gadgets sooner or later. I just asked if you had actual reliability data supporting your statement, but you are just echoing the industry's advertising. It is not bad not having facts, must of our comments here are just opinions with no evidence.
Ya I agree a specification is not equal to it. But that was just the first article I found. There are other articles where the reliability has been stated. I'm assuming that it has been tested.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Fri, 06 October 2017, 20:38:40
Are you really arguing the reliability of the USB C port? Don't you think Samsung and Google and Apple haven't looked into this? How is that not proof enough. If the professional hardware developers are using USB-C then I'm comfortable in their decision making.The mini USB port is a very reliable solution for keyboards. Why having a USB-c? Unless it is easily replaceable, like phone ports that are in a separated small board, it is a less reliable solution of an otherwise interesting design.
Usb-C is the future and is a much more sturdy plug. I love that they are using them on this board.
Do you have evidence supporting it? Not your love, neither being the future; but, on sturdiness of the port.
So the thing is min USB if you look at insertion cycle lifetime is actually one of the poorest connectors. It was only made to last 1000 cycles. I think now a good cable can get up to 5000, but Usb-c is rated for at least 10 000 cycles which is a factor of two better.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/8377/usb-typec-connector-specifications-finalized (https://www.anandtech.com/show/8377/usb-typec-connector-specifications-finalized)
An specification is not actual reliability data, it is just the design's purpose, achieving it will depend on manufacturing quality. But, I can see your point. Personally, I have my keyboards always connected to my Thinkpad's port replicators at home and at work, so I never unplug them, however, Mini USB has proved to be reliable enough for keyboard applications, also, I'd prefer the wire at the back, it is a cleaner desk setup, than on the side.
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There no need to justify a change made by the industry. It is a fact and it is coming to all of our gadgets sooner or later. I just asked if you had actual reliability data supporting your statement, but you are just echoing the industry's advertising. It is not bad not having facts, must of our comments here are just opinions with no evidence.
Ya I agree a specification is not equal to it. But that was just the first article I found. There are other articles where the reliability has been stated. I'm assuming that it has been tested.
Thanks for discussion. ;D
There were three points why CA66 were using TypeC port:
1. They thought both typec port and case were rounded, and they matched well.
2. Could be plugged from front side and reverse side for sure.
3. Added a new element to a old fashioned keyboard.
I also asked why the port set on the side than the back. Yock said that he didn't want to destroy the perfect rounded surface by drilling a hole on it.
I prefer wiring at the back myself, but CA66 is kind of not suitable.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 October 2017, 21:13:45
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Fri, 06 October 2017, 23:37:11
Thank you for the feedback. Please share the pricing as soon as possible, it will allow to make a decision if joining, or not.
Just updated. :D
Thank you for keeping an eye on this IC thread.
Post by: tuantruong on Sat, 07 October 2017, 00:30:56
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Post by: HongguChaego on Sat, 07 October 2017, 08:45:43
But almost all user using mini b cable for keyboard...
it's very important for compatibility.
I don't want adding one more cable on my desk.
So if it possible, please consider mini b port... ;)
And Thank you for making this fantastic keyboard ^_^
Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 October 2017, 09:06:43
Yeah, Type-c is more futuristic and can make case more decent.
But almost all user using mini b cable for keyboard...
it's very important for compatibility.
I don't want adding one more cable on my desk.
So if it possible, please consider mini b port... ;)
And Thank you for making this fantastic keyboard ^_^
I have seen a few new Chinese keyboard PCBs and it appears USB/c is getting common. Anyways, I really do not see how to justify a three hundred something board, while I really do not have any use for dedicated arrows and when I am doing pretty well with a sixty format.
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Post by: koduh on Sun, 15 October 2017, 13:05:13
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Post by: tigerali on Sun, 15 October 2017, 13:21:36
Super interested. And +1 to USB-C
Same. Ready to move to USB C.
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sun, 15 October 2017, 17:55:44
Is there any possibility to add ALPS support? I think this is a really cool design to make a modern 65% AEK-II if only it had the PCB support for it.
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This would look amazing with the beige AEK keycaps..
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Post by: koduh on Sun, 15 October 2017, 19:51:33
Is there any possibility to add ALPS support? I think this is a really cool design to make a modern 65% AEK-II if only it had the PCB support for it.
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This would look amazing with the beige AEK keycaps..
My exact thoughts! After seeing the super sexy AEK64 case/board that Clueboard is selling it made me want a 65% version.
I jumped onto KLE and played with some layouts but none really worked due to keycap sizing though. :( I just tried out this CA66 style and it works with all Original caps! Although It doesn't match their current plan for CA66. Here are my renditions: https://imgur.com/a/2oCdL
Post by: Auroraa on Sun, 15 October 2017, 20:09:09
Is there any R1 for sale? :P
learn chinese and you can find one
Thank goodness for Google translate, albeit very inaccurate.
Can you point me to the right direction? The one in Taobao is just a "memento".
you'll have to get into the buy/sell/trade QQ channel, but they're not exactly fans of having foreigners in there
I actually have a build r1 board, but it would take a lot to convince me to trade/sell it...
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Mon, 16 October 2017, 06:41:12
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Post by: typischt on Mon, 16 October 2017, 17:10:28
Would you guys rather get a WKL version or a "regular" one? I actually really like the HHKB layout, since it looks soo clean, but on the same time, I would really like to have that CA 66 logo since it makes the board kinda special.. I'm really conflicted about that..
On some of the pictures, the keyboard looks like a darker green aka olive green (at least on my screen). Is it actually like that or is it "just" a regular grey? I'd really dig a olive green keyboard..! :)
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Post by: ideus on Mon, 16 October 2017, 18:16:50
I'd be totally in! Such an amazing design!
Would you guys rather get a WKL version or a "regular" one? I actually really like the HHKB layout, since it looks soo clean, but on the same time, I would really like to have that CA 66 logo since it makes the board kinda special.. I'm really conflicted about that..
On some of the pictures, the keyboard looks like a darker green aka olive green (at least on my screen). Is it actually like that or is it "just" a regular grey? I'd really dig a olive green keyboard..! :)
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The Logo comes in the HHKB version. The WKL does not include the Logo.
Post by: typischt on Mon, 16 October 2017, 18:30:13
I'd be totally in! Such an amazing design!
Would you guys rather get a WKL version or a "regular" one? I actually really like the HHKB layout, since it looks soo clean, but on the same time, I would really like to have that CA 66 logo since it makes the board kinda special.. I'm really conflicted about that..
On some of the pictures, the keyboard looks like a darker green aka olive green (at least on my screen). Is it actually like that or is it "just" a regular grey? I'd really dig a olive green keyboard..! :)
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The Logo comes in the HHKB version. The WKL does not include the Logo.
Yeah, sorry about the mix up, happened in the heat of the moment :) of course, it‘s the other way around..
Another attempt:
...
I actually really like the WKL layout, since it looks soo clean, but on the same time, I would really like to have that CA 66 logo since it makes the board kinda special.. I'm really conflicted about that..
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Post by: Trente on Mon, 16 October 2017, 18:42:32
Is there any possibility to add ALPS support? I think this is a really cool design to make a modern 65% AEK-II if only it had the PCB support for it.
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This would look amazing with the beige AEK keycaps..
My exact thoughts! After seeing the super sexy AEK64 case/board that Clueboard is selling it made me want a 65% version.
I jumped onto KLE and played with some layouts but none really worked due to keycap sizing though. :( I just tried out this CA66 style and it works with all Original caps! Although It doesn't match their current plan for CA66. Here are my renditions: https://imgur.com/a/2oCdL
Really cool renders, but unfortunately I think they might not considering alps compatibility at this moment, I had ask previously and they said not now.
Post by: koduh on Mon, 16 October 2017, 18:49:05
Yeah figured as much. Still a rad design!Is there any possibility to add ALPS support? I think this is a really cool design to make a modern 65% AEK-II if only it had the PCB support for it.
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This would look amazing with the beige AEK keycaps..
My exact thoughts! After seeing the super sexy AEK64 case/board that Clueboard is selling it made me want a 65% version.
I jumped onto KLE and played with some layouts but none really worked due to keycap sizing though. :( I just tried out this CA66 style and it works with all Original caps! Although It doesn't match their current plan for CA66. Here are my renditions: https://imgur.com/a/2oCdL
Really cool renders, but unfortunately I think they might not considering alps compatibility at this moment, I had ask previously and they said not now.
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Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 17 October 2017, 15:19:20
I hope that price estimation can come down a little more, that's just a tad more than I'd like to spend.
In SC I can believe it :)), but i may spring for this.
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Tue, 17 October 2017, 15:52:04
I'd like to see it come down to at least $250, honestly.I hope that price estimation can come down a little more, that's just a tad more than I'd like to spend.
In SC I can believe it :)), but i may spring for this.
Post by: packman86 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 20:00:12
I'd like to see it come down to at least $250, honestly.I hope that price estimation can come down a little more, that's just a tad more than I'd like to spend.
In SC I can believe it :)), but i may spring for this.
$250 is the price on Taobao right now.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.22.16eac8aU4m4e7&id=554507757989&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 17 October 2017, 20:20:46
Post by: packman86 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 20:23:05
That price is pretty much irresistible - is the international buy actually going to be a thing or do we need to go through taobao?
I'd pay a few extra dollars for the convenience of dealing with an English seller.
Post by: ipreferpie on Tue, 17 October 2017, 20:48:08
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 17 October 2017, 21:09:46
Just checked out the Taobao site using translate. Does anyone the the difference between CA66 key and "Front door" version? And what the color kit does? Thanks!
I assume "front door" means assembled since the opposing option is "kit", I'm just not sure how you pick the options (colour and then stabs/switches/etc if they are not included).
Post by: BerserkZz on Tue, 17 October 2017, 21:28:27
Just checked out the Taobao site using translate. Does anyone the the difference between CA66 key and "Front door" version? And what the color kit does? Thanks!
I assume "front door" means assembled since the opposing option is "kit", I'm just not sure how you pick the options (colour and then stabs/switches/etc if they are not included).
No, the front door is another version with a dedicated left ctrl. But that version won't come with the ca66 logo.
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 17 October 2017, 21:29:55
No, the front door is another version with a dedicated left ctrl. But that version won't come with the ca66 logo.
Ah I see, thank you for clarifying that. Taobao is just too complicated as a foreigner, if no international GB happens I'll just pay superbuy to handle the transaction for me I guess.
Post by: BerserkZz on Tue, 17 October 2017, 21:34:03
Well, hope it will happen some day soon. Since lots of people are waiting for this.No, the front door is another version with a dedicated left ctrl. But that version won't come with the ca66 logo.
Ah I see, thank you for clarifying that. Taobao is just too complicated as a foreigner, if no international GB happens I'll just pay superbuy to handle the transaction for me I guess.
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 17 October 2017, 21:57:16
300 is really not bad at all.I'd like to see it come down to at least $250, honestly.I hope that price estimation can come down a little more, that's just a tad more than I'd like to spend.
In SC I can believe it :)), but i may spring for this.
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Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Wed, 18 October 2017, 06:26:34
I'd like to see it come down to at least $250, honestly.I hope that price estimation can come down a little more, that's just a tad more than I'd like to spend.
In SC I can believe it :)), but i may spring for this.
$250 is the price on Taobao right now.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.22.16eac8aU4m4e7&id=554507757989&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail
This GB is available for China and Taiwan now.
I think anyone can buy it, but you'll have to understand full description written in Chinese.
This Round added some new options:
1. Brass plate
2. Titanium logo
3. Red and blue case as default colors
We are planning to set GB in GH as the final one, and the abundance of GH GB will be the most. (at least equal to round 2)
Those new three options addition is a test for a cost estimation. Like we don't even know what a brass plate cost currently.
So thanks for you guys keeping an eye on this IC. We are looking forward to do a good final version GB for GH. ;D
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 18 October 2017, 07:16:18
I'd like to see it come down to at least $250, honestly.I hope that price estimation can come down a little more, that's just a tad more than I'd like to spend.
In SC I can believe it :)), but i may spring for this.
$250 is the price on Taobao right now.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.22.16eac8aU4m4e7&id=554507757989&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail
This GB is available for China and Taiwan now.
I think anyone can buy it, but you'll have to understand full description written in Chinese.
This Round added some new options:
1. Brass plate
2. Titanium logo
3. Red and blue case as default colors
We are planning to set GB in GH as the final one, and the abundance of GH GB will be the most. (at least equal to round 2)
Those new three options addition is a test for a cost estimation. Like we don't even know what a brass plate cost currently.
So thanks for you guys keeping an eye on this IC. We are looking forward to do a good final version GB for GH. ;D
How long until the GH GB?
Post by: ipreferpie on Wed, 18 October 2017, 09:50:55
I'd like to see it come down to at least $250, honestly.I hope that price estimation can come down a little more, that's just a tad more than I'd like to spend.
In SC I can believe it :)) , but i may spring for this.
$250 is the price on Taobao right now.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.22.16eac8aU4m4e7&id=554507757989&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail (https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.22.16eac8aU4m4e7&id=554507757989&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail)
This GB is available for China and Taiwan now.
I think anyone can buy it, but you'll have to understand full description written in Chinese.
This Round added some new options:
1. Brass plate
2. Titanium logo
3. Red and blue case as default colors
We are planning to set GB in GH as the final one, and the abundance of GH GB will be the most. (at least equal to round 2)
Those new three options addition is a test for a cost estimation. Like we don't even know what a brass plate cost currently.
So thanks for you guys keeping an eye on this IC. We are looking forward to do a good final version GB for GH. ;D
Thanks for the info! And for the case if I want dark grey, do I have to select the "[size=78%]颜色自选[/size][/size][size=78%]" option?[/size]
Post by: Calza on Wed, 18 October 2017, 11:21:42
Post by: kmba on Wed, 18 October 2017, 13:19:00
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 18 October 2017, 15:00:22
Can we get this without going through TaoBao?
At this time, no. They are hopefully planning to run a group buy here on GH after this one on Taobao
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:25:06
We are planning to set GB in GH as the final one, and the abundance of GH GB will be the most. (at least equal to round 2)
Those new three options addition is a test for a cost estimation. Like we don't even know what a brass plate cost currently.
So thanks for you guys keeping an eye on this IC. We are looking forward to do a good final version GB for GH. ;D
Awesome! Let us know when it is near launch if you could, it'd be nice to know a little bit in advance - I assume the plan is to have it start after the taobao China GB finishes?
Post by: the pokemon kid on Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:45:36
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Wed, 18 October 2017, 21:33:33
Can we get this without going through TaoBao?
At this time, no. They are hopefully planning to run a group buy here on GH after this one on Taobao
Thanks for the help. ;D
I'd like to see it come down to at least $250, honestly.I hope that price estimation can come down a little more, that's just a tad more than I'd like to spend.
In SC I can believe it :)) , but i may spring for this.
$250 is the price on Taobao right now.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.22.16eac8aU4m4e7&id=554507757989&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail (https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.22.16eac8aU4m4e7&id=554507757989&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail)
This GB is available for China and Taiwan now.
I think anyone can buy it, but you'll have to understand full description written in Chinese.
This Round added some new options:
1. Brass plate
2. Titanium logo
3. Red and blue case as default colors
We are planning to set GB in GH as the final one, and the abundance of GH GB will be the most. (at least equal to round 2)
Those new three options addition is a test for a cost estimation. Like we don't even know what a brass plate cost currently.
So thanks for you guys keeping an eye on this IC. We are looking forward to do a good final version GB for GH. ;D
Thanks for the info! And for the case if I want dark grey, do I have to select the "[size=78%]颜色自选[/size][/size][size=78%]" option?[/size]
No you don't need to. Dark grey is a default color.
I'd like to see it come down to at least $250, honestly.I hope that price estimation can come down a little more, that's just a tad more than I'd like to spend.
In SC I can believe it :)), but i may spring for this.
$250 is the price on Taobao right now.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.22.16eac8aU4m4e7&id=554507757989&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail
This GB is available for China and Taiwan now.
I think anyone can buy it, but you'll have to understand full description written in Chinese.
This Round added some new options:
1. Brass plate
2. Titanium logo
3. Red and blue case as default colors
We are planning to set GB in GH as the final one, and the abundance of GH GB will be the most. (at least equal to round 2)
Those new three options addition is a test for a cost estimation. Like we don't even know what a brass plate cost currently.
So thanks for you guys keeping an eye on this IC. We are looking forward to do a good final version GB for GH. ;D
How long until the GH GB?
We are planning to set GB in GH as the final one, and the abundance of GH GB will be the most. (at least equal to round 2)
Those new three options addition is a test for a cost estimation. Like we don't even know what a brass plate cost currently.
So thanks for you guys keeping an eye on this IC. We are looking forward to do a good final version GB for GH. ;D
Awesome! Let us know when it is near launch if you could, it'd be nice to know a little bit in advance - I assume the plan is to have it start after the taobao China GB finishes?
We are going to make an interest check form right after R2 in Taobao ends.
It will be focusing on:
1. price check
2. default case color options check
3. logo material options check
4. aluminum plate color options and brass plate option check
5. others if it's not mentioned above
After we clarify all the stuff, GB will start soon! ;D :p
Post by: nu_types on Sat, 21 October 2017, 19:36:03
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sun, 22 October 2017, 21:09:45
I really dig this board. Any chance we'll have cerakote options?
Probably not. Since it's our first keyboard kit and we haven't find a good factory to make it.
We'll continue to design some great stuff and might going to let it be an option. :D
Post by: nu_types on Fri, 27 October 2017, 19:09:26
I really dig this board. Any chance we'll have cerakote options?
Probably not. Since it's our first keyboard kit and we haven't find a good factory to make it.
We'll continue to design some great stuff and might going to let it be an option. :D
Ah, okay, definitely still in for this. Looking forward to your future designs already!
Post by: Marutks on Wed, 01 November 2017, 13:10:43
Post by: MeloDet on Wed, 01 November 2017, 13:45:55
Switches are "upside down" on your PCB (south facing LEDs). They are not compatible with thick cherry profile (GMK) keycaps.
Well ****. Though one of their pictures has gmk carbon, so maybe it's not as it seems?
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 01 November 2017, 14:16:38
Switches are "upside down" on your PCB (south facing LEDs). They are not compatible with thick cherry profile (GMK) keycaps.
What you say here is a confusing. The leds face north or towards the top of the board. But yes, this is indeed upside down. I personally cannot stand GMK caps on upside down switches, but that’s just one man’s opinion. And I still may try to get one and use a different profile keycap bc the board is unique
Post by: MeloDet on Wed, 01 November 2017, 14:42:52
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 01 November 2017, 14:53:10
So inverted switches still work with gmk they just feel different/wrong? Either way it would probably be best to change this if possible.
This is a touchy topic and some people have firm opinions. I firmly believe that upside down switches have issues with all cherry profile keycaps. (SA, DSA, OEM have no such issue)
I have many keyboards with upside down switches and can tell you that every GMK set and ePBT set I have (7 in total) does not bottom out properly on the QWERTY and home rows. The keycaps make contact with the switch before it bottoms out completely. It has nothing to do with LEDs, it is the switch housing that makes contact. The proper bottom of the switch falls off quickly. However, the proper top plateaus out for longer. When you turn that switch upside down, the keycap hits slightly.
It is much more noticeable with linear switches. They do work, yes. They will allow you to actuate the key. And if you are not too picky about switch evenness across the board it will not bother you much.
Some people will deny this is a thing. In my eyes, they are either numb in the fingers and hard of hearing, or there is some sort of cherry profile from before my sets were made that doesn't have the issue.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:20:46
Switches are "upside down" on your PCB (south facing LEDs). They are not compatible with thick cherry profile (GMK) keycaps.
Actually LEDs are north facing, as you can see the pic below.
[attach=1]
So inverted switches still work with gmk they just feel different/wrong? Either way it would probably be best to change this if possible.
So inverted switches still work with gmk they just feel different/wrong? Either way it would probably be best to change this if possible.
This is a touchy topic and some people have firm opinions. I firmly believe that upside down switches have issues with all cherry profile keycaps. (SA, DSA, OEM have no such issue)
I have many keyboards with upside down switches and can tell you that every GMK set and ePBT set I have (7 in total) does not bottom out properly on the QWERTY and home rows. The keycaps make contact with the switch before it bottoms out completely. It has nothing to do with LEDs, it is the switch housing that makes contact. The proper bottom of the switch falls off quickly. However, the proper top plateaus out for longer. When you turn that switch upside down, the keycap hits slightly.
It is much more noticeable with linear switches. They do work, yes. They will allow you to actuate the key. And if you are not too picky about switch evenness across the board it will not bother you much.
Some people will deny this is a thing. In my eyes, they are either numb in the fingers and hard of hearing, or there is some sort of cherry profile from before my sets were made that doesn't have the issue.
Thanks reececonrad for clearing things out, you are absolutely right. ;D
When you use Cherry profile keysets, you will have feeling of hitting the housing typing on QWER row.
You can get that touch especially when using an Enjoypbt set. Here is a pic for reference.
[attach=2]
GMK will be smoother, but still have a slightly feeling.
Post by: energyd on Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:24:50
Post by: MeloDet on Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:42:47
Switches are "upside down" on your PCB (south facing LEDs). They are not compatible with thick cherry profile (GMK) keycaps.
Actually LEDs are north facing, as you can see the pic below.
(Attachment Link)So inverted switches still work with gmk they just feel different/wrong? Either way it would probably be best to change this if possible.So inverted switches still work with gmk they just feel different/wrong? Either way it would probably be best to change this if possible.
This is a touchy topic and some people have firm opinions. I firmly believe that upside down switches have issues with all cherry profile keycaps. (SA, DSA, OEM have no such issue)
I have many keyboards with upside down switches and can tell you that every GMK set and ePBT set I have (7 in total) does not bottom out properly on the QWERTY and home rows. The keycaps make contact with the switch before it bottoms out completely. It has nothing to do with LEDs, it is the switch housing that makes contact. The proper bottom of the switch falls off quickly. However, the proper top plateaus out for longer. When you turn that switch upside down, the keycap hits slightly.
It is much more noticeable with linear switches. They do work, yes. They will allow you to actuate the key. And if you are not too picky about switch evenness across the board it will not bother you much.
Some people will deny this is a thing. In my eyes, they are either numb in the fingers and hard of hearing, or there is some sort of cherry profile from before my sets were made that doesn't have the issue.
Thanks reececonrad for clearing things out, you are absolutely right. ;D
When you use Cherry profile keysets, you will have feeling of hitting the housing typing on QWER row.
You can get that touch especially when using an Enjoypbt set. Here is a pic for reference.
[attach=2]
GMK will be smoother, but still have a slightly feeling.
Is there a particular reason it was done this way? And is there any possibility of getting it changed for the gh groupbuy?
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:48:12
Is there a particular reason it was done this way? And is there any possibility of getting it changed for the gh groupbuy?
If I'm understanding the situation correctly the LEDs in this will be North facing as seen in the picture posted by PlayKeyboardTW - the issues with cherry profile sets are experienced with South facing LEDs, the confusion was because someone thought that's the way they are on the CA66 but, as per the picture posted, that is not the case.
Post by: MeloDet on Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:52:38
Is there a particular reason it was done this way? And is there any possibility of getting it changed for the gh groupbuy?
If I'm understanding the situation correctly the LEDs in this will be North facing as seen in the picture posted by PlayKeyboardTW - the issues with cherry profile sets are experienced with South facing LEDs, the confusion was because someone thought that's the way they are on the CA66 but, as per the picture posted, that is not the case.
I think he just used to wrong direction originally. South facing leds is the normal way, so that wouldn't be the orientation that causes the problems. Issues arise when they're facing north (though it's apparently not the leds, but the housing that causes to problem)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:56:30
I think he just used to wrong direction originally. South facing leds is the normal way, so that wouldn't be the orientation that causes the problems. Issues arise when they're facing north (though it's apparently not the leds, but the housing that causes to problem)
Oh yea, my bad then, confusing subject for me since I've hardly ever even considered this kind of thing (I don't do LEDs on any of my builds). Unfortunate if that does limit certain users though despite me not having a problem with it.
Post by: kmba on Wed, 01 November 2017, 22:02:58
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 01 November 2017, 22:11:07
When switches are oriented with the led hole to the north/top, thick cherry profile caps can contact the switch housing. Unfortunately for me it's pretty much a deal breaker as I solely use thick cherry profile caps. No SA or uniform profiles for me.
Oh so even without the LEDs installed there are still clearance issues - live and learn I guess, thanks for bringing that to light (hurrhurr); shame, I'm weird and a DSA/XDA fan so not using GMK on this board is hardly a deal breaker but it does feel a little silly to sacrifice a whole profile like that.
Post by: MeloDet on Wed, 01 November 2017, 22:26:57
When switches are oriented with the led hole to the north/top, thick cherry profile caps can contact the switch housing. Unfortunately for me it's pretty much a deal breaker as I solely use thick cherry profile caps. No SA or uniform profiles for me.
Oh so even without the LEDs installed there are still clearance issues - live and learn I guess, thanks for bringing that to light (hurrhurr); shame, I'm weird and a DSA/XDA fan so not using GMK on this board is hardly a deal breaker but it does feel a little silly to sacrifice a whole profile like that.
My thoughts exactly. I was originally planning on putting SA Lime on this, but I would still like the freedom change it up. Especially if there isn't really any reason to have it the other way.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 01 November 2017, 23:03:58
When switches are oriented with the led hole to the north/top, thick cherry profile caps can contact the switch housing. Unfortunately for me it's pretty much a deal breaker as I solely use thick cherry profile caps. No SA or uniform profiles for me.
Oh so even without the LEDs installed there are still clearance issues - live and learn I guess, thanks for bringing that to light (hurrhurr); shame, I'm weird and a DSA/XDA fan so not using GMK on this board is hardly a deal breaker but it does feel a little silly to sacrifice a whole profile like that.
Why on earth switches have to be turned down?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 01 November 2017, 23:09:23
When switches are oriented with the led hole to the north/top, thick cherry profile caps can contact the switch housing. Unfortunately for me it's pretty much a deal breaker as I solely use thick cherry profile caps. No SA or uniform profiles for me.
Oh so even without the LEDs installed there are still clearance issues - live and learn I guess, thanks for bringing that to light (hurrhurr); shame, I'm weird and a DSA/XDA fan so not using GMK on this board is hardly a deal breaker but it does feel a little silly to sacrifice a whole profile like that.
Why on earth switches have to be turned down?
Would love to know this too. Can't think of a decent reason.
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 01 November 2017, 23:15:20
When switches are oriented with the led hole to the north/top, thick cherry profile caps can contact the switch housing. Unfortunately for me it's pretty much a deal breaker as I solely use thick cherry profile caps. No SA or uniform profiles for me.
Oh so even without the LEDs installed there are still clearance issues - live and learn I guess, thanks for bringing that to light (hurrhurr); shame, I'm weird and a DSA/XDA fan so not using GMK on this board is hardly a deal breaker but it does feel a little silly to sacrifice a whole profile like that.
Why on earth switches have to be turned down?
Would love to know this too. Can't think of a decent reason.
well, i mean the main reason people started doing this was for shine through legends, I'm sure you know that. But obviously close to no one buying this board is going to use such keycaps.
Post by: mudcakehoney on Wed, 01 November 2017, 23:28:48
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 01 November 2017, 23:32:31
I’m a little confused, can I confirm that with this pcb you have to orientate your switches with the Led facing north that will interfere with GMK and cherry profile caps, even if you don’t solder in the led? And there is no alternative or fix for this. Sorry for the noob question.
If the photo with switches installed is accurate. This the only thing we don't know for sure, but it seems very likely this is the case.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 02 November 2017, 00:26:57
I am designing an IC form to figure out what options will meet the taste of most people.
To my knowledge, if the PCB has south LED holes, you will have chance hitting LEDs typing on Cherry profile keycaps.
Both 3mm LEDs and 2x3x4 LEDs will be hit. 1.8mm LEDs seem to be the solution for avoiding that.
Anyway, we will do a investigation for CA66. Cheers. :thumb:
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 02 November 2017, 01:21:25
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
Post by: OracleKev on Thu, 02 November 2017, 01:47:58
Thanks guys for comments.
I am designing an IC form to figure out what options will meet the taste of most people.
To my knowledge, if the PCB has south LED holes, you will have chance hitting LEDs typing on Cherry profile keycaps.
Both 3mm LEDs and 2x3x4 LEDs will be hit. 1.8mm LEDs seem to be the solution for avoiding that.
Anyway, we will do a investigation for CA66. Cheers. :thumb:
You shave off LEDs so they don't interfere.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=1941
PCBs with inverted switches are almost never done with customs.
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 02 November 2017, 07:32:02
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
Thank you for considering our comments. I appreciate it. Normally turned switches would make
This board much more appealing to me.
Post by: ptiede on Thu, 02 November 2017, 07:35:00
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
Filled in! Really looking forward to this! I want the hhkb style layout so much!
Post by: Marutks on Thu, 02 November 2017, 07:57:26
I’m a little confused, can I confirm that with this pcb you have to orientate your switches with the Led facing north that will interfere with GMK and cherry profile caps, even if you don’t solder in the led? And there is no alternative or fix for this. Sorry for the noob question.
yes, correct. The only alternative is to use different keycaps.
Post by: koduh on Thu, 02 November 2017, 08:50:08
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
If you are looking at changing the PCB are you willing to add ALPS support?
Post by: ipreferpie on Thu, 02 November 2017, 10:09:23
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
If you are looking at changing the PCB are you willing to add ALPS support?
Yes plssssssss! And would like to have option to buy PCB only
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 02 November 2017, 10:17:06
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
Filled, thanks so much!
Post by: the pokemon kid on Thu, 02 November 2017, 10:31:19
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
Filled it in! I am so hyped for this! :D
Post by: kmba on Thu, 02 November 2017, 10:51:42
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 02 November 2017, 11:23:42
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
Thank you for considering our comments. I appreciate it. Normally turned switches would make
This board much more appealing to me.
I myself prefer LED south facing PCB too. ;D
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
Filled in! Really looking forward to this! I want the hhkb style layout so much!
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
Filled, thanks so much!
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
Filled it in! I am so hyped for this! :D
Thanks guys! :thumb:
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
If you are looking at changing the PCB are you willing to add ALPS support?
I am sorry to say no. :-[
Hi guys. IC form is created. ;D
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2 (https://goo.gl/forms/8Q0VLU0ir1xoDgTa2)
Please help us to confirm details! :D
If you are looking at changing the PCB are you willing to add ALPS support?
Yes plssssssss! And would like to have option to buy PCB only
That might be available. ;)
Post by: mudcakehoney on Thu, 02 November 2017, 14:05:19
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 03 November 2017, 00:42:15
Post by: _rubik on Sat, 04 November 2017, 10:10:19
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 05 November 2017, 05:13:25
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sun, 05 November 2017, 09:35:40
Sorry if this has been said but has a rough date been set for the GB?
Still unsure. Few things need to be changed and may take some time.
what is the rough weight on this keyboard? will future revisions add a weighted version?
1.5kg with assembly.
There is no room to put a weight in I guess.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sun, 05 November 2017, 09:45:28
Brass plate and Titanium badge are added.
Other things like default colors, plate colors, QMK supporting... etc, are still pending.
The first thing we need to finish is to test our new PCB.
If it's passed the examination, I think the GB date will be close.
Thanks for all your comments. We promised to do a GB surely better than previous two in China. ;D
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 05 November 2017, 10:34:51
After reading all feedbacks and having a discussion, we decided to change switch orientation to normal(not inverted as old one).
Brass plate and Titanium badge are added.
Other things like default colors, plate colors, QMK supporting... etc, are still pending.
The first thing we need to finish is to test our new PCB.
If it's passed the examination, I think the GB date will be close.
Thanks for all your comments. We promised to do a GB surely better than previous two in China. ;D
Glad to hear it!
Please do make sure everything is in order before GB opens haha, Time TKL and GMK Laser are both currently active so I'm (and surely others too) going to be very poor for the rest of the month T_T
Post by: _rubik on Sun, 05 November 2017, 11:58:52
Post by: MeloDet on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:06:31
Im wondering if, given the classic design and feel, the pcb can support alps switches also. That for me would as SO much value to the package. How does everyone else feel about that?
Op has already mentioned that it's not an option unfortunately
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:19:29
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:31:39
even if it did have alps support, would you want to spend that much money on an awesome board and then have to scrap together some random keycaps for compatibility?
You have a point... But still... think about that vintage looking board with some sweet sweet Alps blues.. Hnngg
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:54:05
Extra for brass? Sure!
South facing LEDs please!
This thing looks rad!
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 10 November 2017, 17:47:19
Post by: Asbrodeus on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:29:54
Post by: superdoedoe on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:47:12
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sat, 11 November 2017, 06:47:25
Looks like it won't delay anything of our up coming schedule.
R2 cases in China will be sent to anodizing factory on 25th.
We will see how they goes and start to plan GH GB. :thumb:
Thanks for being so patient.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 12 November 2017, 21:28:04
We are currently testing our PCB right now. ;D
Looks like it won't delay anything of our up coming schedule.
R2 cases in China will be sent to anodizing factory on 25th.
We will see how they goes and start to plan GH GB. :thumb:
Thanks for be so patient.
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to it!
Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 13 November 2017, 08:39:27
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 15 November 2017, 03:34:12
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Post by: foxlive on Sun, 19 November 2017, 11:00:37
Post by: Chromatrope on Mon, 20 November 2017, 04:34:07
Post by: mudcakehoney on Mon, 20 November 2017, 04:56:08
Very, very nice board. I would die for a red one.I voted for red too, but I seriously can’t decide what colour I’d prefer
Post by: Hawkfriend on Mon, 20 November 2017, 22:13:18
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 01 December 2017, 10:18:30
Any info on how the GH GB will be hold? Unlimited quantity or limited one. If limited, FCFS? Raffle? ^-^
Still no news??
I want this ca66 so badly ;D
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Wed, 06 December 2017, 01:49:01
We are making our second sample PCB. Hope everything goes well.
About online editor, Yang finally released the English version. You can check the pic below:
[attach=1]
R2 cases are now in the anodizing factory right now. We wish we can finish them quickly and start the GB here.
Have a wonderful Xmas guys! ;D
Post by: typischt on Wed, 06 December 2017, 02:12:55
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Post by: audax989 on Sun, 10 December 2017, 18:44:22
Post by: superdoedoe on Sun, 10 December 2017, 19:29:38
I've decided to abandon the ALFX2 and jump on this.
I'll tell you all about both when my CA66 finishes the anno process.
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 10 December 2017, 19:33:22
Awwww man. Gb ends tomorrow for the alf. But yeah. I think I’m still gearing towards this.I've decided to abandon the ALFX2 and jump on this.
I'll tell you all about both when my CA66 finishes the anno process.
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Post by: fractl on Mon, 11 December 2017, 12:03:44
I would like to make my next build hot-swappable, but, obviously, this isn't like building a 60% where I could use a universal pcb that has been proven to work with holtites.
Post by: ctrl on Wed, 13 December 2017, 07:08:34
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 13 December 2017, 15:57:35
My body is ready for this.
Yeah, me too.. but my wallet is not :'(
I hope it will not run too soon!!
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Wed, 13 December 2017, 17:18:14
It's... Running right now...My body is ready for this.
Yeah, me too.. but my wallet is not :'(
I hope it will not run too soon!!
Post by: typischt on Wed, 13 December 2017, 17:22:47
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?It's... Running right now...My body is ready for this.
Yeah, me too.. but my wallet is not :'(
I hope it will not run too soon!!
I guess you mean one running on taobao or somewhere..
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Wed, 13 December 2017, 17:27:07
Whoops, thought this was a different thread. Never mind.WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?It's... Running right now...My body is ready for this.
Yeah, me too.. but my wallet is not :'(
I hope it will not run too soon!!
I guess you mean one running on taobao or somewhere..
Post by: smohamed on Wed, 13 December 2017, 18:21:09
THIS IS MY ENDGAME, I already ordered my GB keyset
Post by: ctrl on Thu, 14 December 2017, 00:34:48
My body is ready for this.
Yeah, me too.. but my wallet is not :'(
I hope it will not run too soon!!
True. I can't wait for it, but I really hope it drops sometime after the holidays and after a payday. Like end of January.
Seriously, the more I look at that layout, the more I love it.
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 15 December 2017, 06:56:08
Post by: foxlive on Thu, 21 December 2017, 16:34:50
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 24 December 2017, 22:22:22
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Post by: the pokemon kid on Tue, 02 January 2018, 17:11:27
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 04 January 2018, 19:19:53
We finally complete our R2 GB production in China.
Now we can move to here now.
Please fill the form if you want to get the notification of GB launching at very first time: https://goo.gl/forms/dPy287zMTW4LHqmC3
We are now confirming some details with Paypal. Hope we can sort them out soon! :thumb:
Post by: typischt on Thu, 04 January 2018, 19:36:33
Ah yeah, by the way, any infos on the colors yet? Sorry if they were already fixed and mentioned in the thread, but can‘t remember reading anything about it.
Post by: energyd on Thu, 04 January 2018, 20:21:51
Post by: sanryu on Fri, 05 January 2018, 01:34:26
My pcb is a reverse pcb.
Do you also produce Stansted pcb?
I want to make a purchase. Standard PCB
Post by: RSC on Sat, 06 January 2018, 05:04:21
Post by: energyd on Sat, 06 January 2018, 12:31:53
Post by: tragedyfoundus on Sat, 06 January 2018, 13:19:39
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 06 January 2018, 13:34:27
I'm in if this color going to be available: https://imgur.com/a/hr3Jt
Pretty sure that's the default, or was for the Chinese GBs at least.
Post by: donut_sauce on Sat, 06 January 2018, 15:54:24
Post by: SeedyOne on Sat, 06 January 2018, 16:09:00
Post by: hippo008 on Sat, 06 January 2018, 18:58:11
Post by: vinzlr on Sat, 06 January 2018, 19:04:19
Post by: redleaf on Sat, 06 January 2018, 19:38:52
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 06 January 2018, 21:28:55
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sat, 06 January 2018, 22:08:58
Definitely in if this gets QMK support.
We might release the matrix. ;D
Do holtites fit on the pcb?
Sorry. Don't know and not gonna test that.
I got a question about the sound of this board. I currently have a WASD Code and it pings like crazy. This board looks to be of all metal construction, does it ping?
You will get different sounds by installing different switches. Can't really tell what it's going to be like.
Yes, full metal.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 07 January 2018, 01:54:19
(https://i.imgur.com/H58U9Yy.jpg)
Post by: SeedyOne on Sun, 07 January 2018, 02:39:22
As someone who doesn't like gaudy logos on my keyboard and mouse, I'm super grateful that they offer this option. Can't wait.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/H58U9Yy.jpg)
Agreed, I hope that option stays.
Post by: OracleKev on Sun, 07 January 2018, 03:10:46
As someone who doesn't like gaudy logos on my keyboard and mouse, I'm super grateful that they offer this option. Can't wait.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/H58U9Yy.jpg)
Agreed, I hope that option stays.
+1 the photo looks amazing.
Feature says the following:
2 top case versions, HHKB like and WKL like（No brass logo if you choose WKL）
I guess I'm covered (I want WKL) as long as this doesn't change.
Post by: sujikinen on Sun, 07 January 2018, 05:46:28
:)
here is my CA66 R2 with gmk yuri, the case color is a default option.
(https://i.imgur.com/hfisohn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/G8TBNis.jpg)
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 07 January 2018, 07:16:47
Post by: ctrl on Sun, 07 January 2018, 07:33:37
Looking at both verious I thought I prefered with logo, but the wkl version seems more « pure and old school » to me ^-^
In agreement with this. Not a huge fan of WKL and preferred the version with logotype before, but WKL just looks amazing here!
Post by: tragedyfoundus on Sun, 07 January 2018, 09:31:52
Post by: kmba on Sun, 07 January 2018, 09:55:40
The logo is mounted with screw,if you don't like you can relpcate one with your creation.
:)
here is my CA66 R2 with gmk yuri, the case color is a default option.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hfisohn.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/G8TBNis.jpg)
More pics please
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Sun, 07 January 2018, 12:14:12
Post by: the pokemon kid on Mon, 08 January 2018, 19:08:00
Shame the WKL won't have the logo. I'm torn over which is more important to me. :(
Im going for the HHKB style just because of that logo! Looks dope!
Post by: iliptikal on Tue, 09 January 2018, 17:48:58
Feeling hyped now :thumb:
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Post by: tanvir175 on Tue, 09 January 2018, 20:58:38
Definitely in if this gets QMK support.
We might release the matrix. ;D
Since QMK support is important to many, I hope you do :)
I don't know if other PCB's will be compatible or not but if not then QMK is a must for me. I'm so ready to order one of these when the GB drops because the case is one of the most beautiful things I've laid my eyes on.
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 09 January 2018, 21:09:09
As someone who doesn't like gaudy logos on my keyboard and mouse, I'm super grateful that they offer this option. Can't wait.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/H58U9Yy.jpg)
Agreed, I hope that option stays.
+1 No logo option please!
Post by: energyd on Wed, 10 January 2018, 17:32:03
Got inspection pics for my china GB board today.
Feeling hyped now :thumb:
(Attachment Link)
So much in for that color!! Is that the navy blue?
Post by: bball2 on Wed, 10 January 2018, 18:20:54
Post by: iliptikal on Wed, 10 January 2018, 20:33:04
+1 for the no logo option, have this thread bookmarked for when the GB startsThat is actually purple. I'm sure it's just the crappy warehouse lighting that makes it look a bit off.
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Post by: OracleKev on Thu, 11 January 2018, 07:36:44
Is it possible to change the design so only plate space is machined out?
Everything else is fine, but the sound resonance might be a deal breaker for me.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 11 January 2018, 09:41:42
Looking at the build log album, there is a lot of space inside the case. I'm concerned that this will amplify and resonate sounds.
Is it possible to change the design so only plate space is machined out?
Everything else is fine, but the sound resonance might be a deal breaker for me.
Hard question to answer. The loudness made from typing were just normal to me.
There were some reasons why CA66 was designed like this. Mostly was due to CNC issue.
So it is not changeable.
Thanks for asking. ;D
Post by: kmba on Thu, 11 January 2018, 11:15:20
Looking at the build log album, there is a lot of space inside the case. I'm concerned that this will amplify and resonate sounds.
Is it possible to change the design so only plate space is machined out?
Everything else is fine, but the sound resonance might be a deal breaker for me.
Fill it with dampening material.
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 11 January 2018, 12:31:58
Post by: OracleKev on Thu, 11 January 2018, 18:51:15
Looking at the build log album, there is a lot of space inside the case. I'm concerned that this will amplify and resonate sounds.
Is it possible to change the design so only plate space is machined out?
Everything else is fine, but the sound resonance might be a deal breaker for me.
Fill it with dampening material.
Not as effective as appropriately sized space. Someone I know already tried.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 11 January 2018, 20:27:46
Looking at the build log album, there is a lot of space inside the case. I'm concerned that this will amplify and resonate sounds.
Is it possible to change the design so only plate space is machined out?
Everything else is fine, but the sound resonance might be a deal breaker for me.
Hard question to answer. The loudness made from typing were just normal to me.
There were some reasons why CA66 was designed like this. Mostly was due to CNC issue.
So it is not changeable.
Thanks for asking. ;D
Doesn't removing that much material just make the case take longer to build? Like instead of having rounded out cutouts where the bolts connect to the top/bottom, couldn't you just make the walls thicker?
Just seems like you are increasing manufacturing cost to reduce weight and make a less rigid case.
Have you considered adding some bolt holes to allow an internal weight to the giant hollow section?
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 11 January 2018, 20:42:21
Looking at the build log album, there is a lot of space inside the case. I'm concerned that this will amplify and resonate sounds.
Is it possible to change the design so only plate space is machined out?
Everything else is fine, but the sound resonance might be a deal breaker for me.
Hard question to answer. The loudness made from typing were just normal to me.
There were some reasons why CA66 was designed like this. Mostly was due to CNC issue.
So it is not changeable.
Thanks for asking. ;D
Doesn't removing that much material just make the case take longer to build? Like instead of having rounded out cutouts where the bolts connect to the top/bottom, couldn't you just make the walls thicker?
Just seems like you are increasing manufacturing cost to reduce weight and make a less rigid case.
Have you considered adding some bolt holes to allow an internal weight to the giant hollow section?
I am not the designer, so what I replied was basically based on our daily conversation.
I myself won't ask anything relates to design and manufacturing, since there is always a reason for "why it's been made like this".
There is one thing confirmed: Yock did reduce more material for reducing weight. He didn't want this keyboard to be as heavy as other keyboard kits.
If there is anything we can improve, that will be put in the next keyboard.
Thanks for the comment. :D
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 12 January 2018, 03:08:34
Thanks :D
Post by: wongie on Fri, 12 January 2018, 07:42:47
There is one thing confirmed: Yock did reduce more material for reducing weight. He didn't want this keyboard to be as heavy as other keyboard kits.
Awww, I was hoping this keyboard was the kind that would be so heavy as to sever toes if one were to accidentally drop it.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Fri, 12 January 2018, 22:42:52
Hope it won't take too much time! ;D
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 13 January 2018, 04:13:43
I am working on the GB thread right now.
Hope it won't take to much time! ;D
Ohhh yeahh! ;D
Post by: N3RDLY on Sat, 13 January 2018, 19:23:35
I am working on the GB thread right now.
Hope it won't take too much time! ;D
This has me excited on so many levels. I sold my ergodox infinity to get this board ^_^
Post by: duxbridge on Sat, 13 January 2018, 22:18:08
Post by: sanryu on Sun, 14 January 2018, 08:06:39
Post by: Paopawdecarabao on Sun, 14 January 2018, 10:46:50
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Post by: ptiede on Sun, 14 January 2018, 11:08:39
6.25u or 7u spacebar for this?
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I believe in the first page it says 6.25u.
Post by: Paopawdecarabao on Sun, 14 January 2018, 12:06:28
6.25u or 7u spacebar for this?
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I believe in the first page it says 6.25u.
Thank you! Good to know! Can't wait to get a hands on this. The plate logo is growing on me.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 14 January 2018, 17:54:14
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Very nice. Is it a prototype?
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 14 January 2018, 18:02:21
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Nice!
What brand of keycaps are those?
Post by: mudcakehoney on Sun, 14 January 2018, 18:02:50
This is a work of art. Very beautiful. What cable are you using for it?Show Image(http://)
Post by: txclack on Sun, 14 January 2018, 18:04:05
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Post by: mudcakehoney on Sun, 14 January 2018, 18:11:35
Is that like a mini XLR connector, or what type of connection is that?It’s USB-C. I’m wondering what colour is being matched
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Post by: KeLorean on Sun, 14 January 2018, 23:06:33
Post by: sanryu on Mon, 15 January 2018, 06:38:26
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Very nice. Is it a prototype?
nono taobao GB CA66 with lin's dsa
Post by: sanryu on Mon, 15 January 2018, 06:39:02
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Very nice. Is it a prototype?
nono taobao GB CA66 with lin's dsa
Post by: sanryu on Mon, 15 January 2018, 06:42:18
I accidentally wrote a lot of reply.
I want to delete it, but I do not know how.
Post by: sanryu on Mon, 15 January 2018, 06:44:02
Nice!
What brand of keycaps are those?
linx3's dsa
Post by: sanryu on Mon, 15 January 2018, 06:47:14
This is a work of art. Very beautiful. What cable are you using for it?Show Image(http://)
very simple rose gold color cable
Post by: sysfury on Mon, 15 January 2018, 09:45:58
my ca66What case color is that?
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 15 January 2018, 09:48:28
my ca66What case color is that?
Looks like cerakoted white, or mao. Not sure if the stock CA66 will offer that though, or if the Chinese buy did, maybe he got it done himself at a shop like some people do. Would like to know as well since I love white cases, if they offer cera/mao from the get-go then that's definitely a huge plus.
Post by: the pokemon kid on Mon, 15 January 2018, 11:30:20
Post by: sysfury on Mon, 15 January 2018, 11:59:31
I would really like a light beige coated one, to get that retro feel. I haven't found much about how to get a case coated.my ca66What case color is that?
Looks like cerakoted white, or mao. Not sure if the stock CA66 will offer that though, or if the Chinese buy did, maybe he got it done himself at a shop like some people do. Would like to know as well since I love white cases, if they offer cera/mao from the get-go then that's definitely a huge plus.
Post by: Paopawdecarabao on Mon, 15 January 2018, 12:23:05
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Post by: ShiverMePenguins on Tue, 16 January 2018, 10:39:20
edit: Idk what to do to get in on the group buy though. I really want this in rose gold.
Post by: ullr on Tue, 16 January 2018, 14:48:11
my ca66What case color is that?
I’d also like to know because if it’s available in the group buy that’s what I’d go for I think
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 16 January 2018, 15:25:55
Really excited for this one. I’m hoping it stays at the $250 range though.
Post by: bcbishop on Tue, 16 January 2018, 18:43:43
Post by: sanryu on Wed, 17 January 2018, 08:32:26
my ca66What case color is that?
silver
Post by: sanryu on Wed, 17 January 2018, 08:44:14
my ca66What case color is that?
I’d also like to know because if it’s available in the group buy that’s what I’d go for I think
silver
Post by: Kaleidoscope on Wed, 17 January 2018, 15:12:40
Post by: sanryu on Thu, 18 January 2018, 01:21:01
silvermy ca66What case color is that?
I’d also like to know because if it’s available in the group buy that’s what I’d go for I think
Post by: ShiverMePenguins on Mon, 29 January 2018, 17:45:47
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Wed, 31 January 2018, 12:43:51
Post by: brainT on Wed, 31 January 2018, 13:28:14
I take it the GB is over then?
Nope.
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Wed, 31 January 2018, 13:35:02
I take it the GB is over then?
Nope.
Thanks I saw a post about a paid invoice and I thought I missed it. Would have been really disappoined. :)
Post by: anhthao88 on Wed, 31 January 2018, 15:33:56
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 31 January 2018, 15:59:45
Is the GB still on? I clicked on the link on the first page and the form is closed.Supposed to be open until the 15th of February ;) !
Post by: typischt on Wed, 31 January 2018, 16:03:34
Is the GB still on? I clicked on the link on the first page and the form is closed.In case you didn‘t realize: This here is the IC thread, for an order, you need to head over to: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.50
Post by: anhthao88 on Wed, 31 January 2018, 16:27:50
Is the GB still on? I clicked on the link on the first page and the form is closed.In case you didn‘t realize: This here is the IC thread, for an order, you need to head over to: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.50
That's where I messed up. Thanks for the link!
Post by: Theswetiyeti on Thu, 22 March 2018, 01:52:50