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Title: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/11/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Wed, 02 June 2021, 04:31:01
Hi all,

As there are not that many keycap sets that include our layouts, I've thought that I would try to create a thread to keep track of them. I was already bookmarking all the ones I found, and hopefully keeping track of them here will help more people (and let me discover keycaps that I had missed).

Active Group Buys/Preorders
ePBT Maras (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115333.0) (ES/LA only, 17/11/21 - 21/12/21)
ePBT Avilo (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115359.0) (ES only, 19/11/21 - 19/12/21)


Interest Checks
See anything interesting here? Check this message (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113157.msg3083292#msg3083292).
ePBT Frontier (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115269.0) (support being considered, vote on the IC Form if interested!!!)
DSA PetriKeys (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114538.0) (support being considered, vote on the IC Form if interested!!!)
ePBT Creative Studio (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111651.0) (South)
ePBT Sumeria (https://www.eloquentclicks.com/es/producto/epbt-sumeria/) (ES/PT/IT)
ePBT Submerged (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114736.0) (ES/PT/IT)
KAT Goddess (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102411.0) (South)
KAT PBJ (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109091.0) (South)
DCS Classic Orange (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114236.0) (incomplete kitting, though)


Available to buy
Note: always check the included keys, as some of these sets might include most of them, but not all.
Keychron PBT Gray (https://www.eloquentclicks.com/product/pre-order-pbt-oem-dye-sub-keycap-set-iso-es/) (ES, IT available from Keychron (https://www.keychron.com/collections/iso-pbt-keycaps-for-q1-k2/products/iso-dye-sub-oem-pbt-keycap-set))
Keychron PBT Carbon (https://www.eloquentclicks.com/product/pre-order-pbt-carbon-oem-dye-sub-iso-keycap-set/) (ES/IT)
Keychron PBT Blue (https://www.eloquentclicks.com/product/pre-order-pbt-oem-white-on-blue-dye-sub-keycap-set-iso-es/) (ES, IT available from Keychron (https://www.keychron.com/collections/iso-pbt-keycaps-for-q1-k2/products/iso-q1-k2-oem-dye-sub-pbt-keycap-set-blue))
GPBT Caribbean Ocean (https://www.eloquentclicks.com/product/glorious-gpbt-keycap-set-caribbean-ocean-iso-es/) (ES)
GPBT Rain Forest (https://www.eloquentclicks.com/product/glorious-gpbt-keycap-set-rain-forest-iso-es/) (ES)
GPBT Artic White (https://www.eloquentclicks.com/product/glorious-gpbt-keycap-set-arctic-white-iso-es) (ES)
GPBT Black Ash (https://www.eloquentclicks.com/product/glorious-gpbt-keycap-set-black-ash-iso-es/) (ES)
KPrepublic International Keyboard (https://kprepublic.com/products/kprepublic-international-norde-eu-uk-es-fi-fr-no-it-pt-de-vowel-letter-cherry-profile-dye-sub-keycap-set-thick-pbt-for-keyboard?variant=9765621202988) (ES/PT/IT)
KPrepublic SA Retro (https://kprepublic.com/products/sa-profile-dye-sub-keycap-set-pbt-plastic-retro-beige-for-mechanical-keyboard-beige-grey-cyan-gh60-xd64-xd84-xd96-87-104?variant=29287324516396)
Kono SA Granite (https://kono.store/products/sa-granite-keycap-set?variant=21782385786963) (ES/IT)
EloquentClicks Tai Hao Dark Tunnel (https://www.eloquentclicks.com/product/tai-hao-dark-tunnel-exotic-iso-es-doubleshot-pbt-114-keycap-set/) (ES, PT available on Drop (https://drop.com/buy/tai-hao-exotic-layout-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set))
PimpMyKeyboard DSA Granite (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-granite-keyset-sublimated/)
PimpMyKeyboard DSA Quartz (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-quartz-keyset-sublimated/)
PimpMyKeyboard DSA High Contrast (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-high-contrast-granite-keyset-sublimated/)
DROP + MATT3O /DEV/TTY MT3 (https://drop.com/buy/drop-matt3o-devtty-custom-keycap-set) (ES/IT)
DROP + BIIP MT3 EXTENDED 2048 (https://drop.com/buy/drop-biip-mt3-extended-custom-keycap-set)
DSA Milkshake (https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-dsa-milkshake) (they should be in stock around 22Q1)
PBT Cherry Milkshake (https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-cherry-milkshake) (they should be in stock around 22Q1)
Click/tap on more for cheap AliExpress sets
More
AliExpress YMDK Cherry (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000843949312.html) (ES/IT)
AliExpress YMDK 9009 DSA (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002287719723.html) (ES/IT)
AliExpress YMDK Hami Melon (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000112777316.html) (ES/IT)
AliExpress PBT Cherry ES (https://a.aliexpress.com/_vXv38D) (ES)
AliExpress Cherry B&W (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003004810814.html) (ES)


Unusual keycap sets
These are sets that donít belong to any layout in particular (e.g. they donít have labels, or use invented languages/symbols).
Lord of the Rings Elvish (https://drop.com/buy/drop-the-lord-of-the-rings-mt3-elvish-keycap-set)
Lord of the Rings Dwarvish (https://drop.com/buy/drop-the-lord-of-rings-mt3-dwarvish-keycap-set)
GMK Dots 2 (https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-dots-2)
KAM Playground (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108517.0) (IC)


Finished Group Buys
Iím going to keep a list of finished GBs, just in case there are any extras available after they ship.
KAM Command (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114842) (ES/IT only, 4/10/21 - 4/11/21)
GMK Electric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114501) (PT, partial ES, 6/9/21 - 6/10/21)
KAT Great Wave (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113443) (South, 21/6/21 - 21/7/21).
ePBT Scandi (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113356) (ES/PT only, 14/6/21 - 14/7/21).
KAT Space Dust (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113012) (South, 24/5/21 - 25/6/21).
More
KAT Slurp (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111105.0) (South, 8/2/21 - 8/3/21).
KAT Monochrome (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108409.0) (South, 1/9/20 - 30/9/20).
KAT Iron (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107806.0) (South, 2/8/20 - 1/9/20).
KAT Hyperfuse (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107175.0) (South, 29/6/20 - 31/7/20).
KAT Space Cadet (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105375.0) (South, 1/4/20 - 9/5/20).
KAT Lich (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104129.0) (South, 7/1/20 - 31/1/20) - The first South set! (heart)


If anyone knows of any more GBs/ICs or available keycaps that I have missed, please add a comment!
Title: Re: South (ES/PT/IT) keycaps - links to active GB and ICs
Post by: salgiza on Fri, 04 June 2021, 07:06:23
I just added the ePBT Scandi (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111609.0) IC, which I had missed!
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 15/6/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Tue, 15 June 2021, 04:18:43
The ePBT Scandi (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111609.0) Group Buy is live! (The link still points to the IC thread, I'll update it when the GB thread is approved).

It's a very nice set that includes tertiary labels (something that most other GBs/ICs) don't.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 15/6/2021)
Post by: namidettje on Thu, 17 June 2021, 12:03:03
Do appreciate your work here mate!

With so little to choose from finally decided to move into ANSI with a touch of ISO (Enter and whatnot) but will take a look here from time to time.

Buen trabajo y suerte!

Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 15/6/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Fri, 18 June 2021, 03:56:37
Do appreciate your work here mate!

With so little to choose from finally decided to move into ANSI with a touch of ISO (Enter and whatnot) but will take a look here from time to time.

Buen trabajo y suerte!

Thanks a lot! Hopefully making these sets easier to find we'll get more people joining the hobby (and thus making "South" kits more popular).
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 17/6/2021)
Post by: Nascent on Mon, 21 June 2021, 02:02:56
Thanks for compiling these lists and making the information easier to access. It's no easy to get nice sets with full compatibility, and hopefully they become more popular. Just got EPBT Scandi and I'm also waiting for the KAT Monochrome sets I got last year.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 13/7/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Tue, 13 July 2021, 03:16:33
A new IC has jus appeared that looks incredibly cool: KAM Command (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113780.0). It just has ES/IT/LA, but with his amount of kitting I'm sure that PT would be added if there is enough interest? I don't know, but always remember to fill in IC Forms to show interest in Keycaps that you would buy!

P.S. During the last weeks I've been also silently updating the list of in-stock (mostly AliExpress) keycaps. As an ES user myself, most of the ones are just for ES layouts + maybe IT or PT. Please, if you are an Italian or Portuguese user, let me know of any keycaps for your layout that you find, so that I can add them to the list!

Thanks for compiling these lists and making the information easier to access. It's no easy to get nice sets with full compatibility, and hopefully they become more popular. Just got EPBT Scandi and I'm also waiting for the KAT Monochrome sets I got last year.

Thanks a lot for the comment!
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/7/2021)
Post by: jackcalico on Tue, 03 August 2021, 03:58:35
I love this post! Thanks a lot for keeping it updated.

You may want to take a look at this spreadsheet I found online: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yj4SpqcC0lc5nFwmGzg2KN2bmshADZBIcs4EOLIiwlc/edit#gid=782011333 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yj4SpqcC0lc5nFwmGzg2KN2bmshADZBIcs4EOLIiwlc/edit#gid=782011333)
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/7/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Tue, 03 August 2021, 07:56:50
I love this post! Thanks a lot for keeping it updated.

You may want to take a look at this spreadsheet I found online: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yj4SpqcC0lc5nFwmGzg2KN2bmshADZBIcs4EOLIiwlc/edit#gid=782011333 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yj4SpqcC0lc5nFwmGzg2KN2bmshADZBIcs4EOLIiwlc/edit#gid=782011333)

Oooh! Do you have the source? If someone is also keeping track of these kits (even if only for es-ES), we could join forces!
If not, I will check all the links and update the main post, but it would be nice to at least give credit!
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/7/2021)
Post by: jackcalico on Tue, 03 August 2021, 07:58:58
Oooh! Do you have the source? If someone is also keeping track of these kits (even if only for es-ES), we could join forces!
If not, I will check all the links and update the main post, but it would be nice to at least give credit!

Unfortunately, I have no idea. I just found this via organic search through Google.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 6/8/2021)
Post by: Jorge on Sun, 15 August 2021, 04:05:23
So little options for ISO-ES...

I like the pimpmykeyboard ones but almost $300 to cover all the needs in my small TKL layout...that's crazy!

I would like some black themed DSA, i'm starting to think that's impossible. I will have to choose between a blank kit or to struggle my brain on a change to ANSI.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 6/8/2021)
Post by: namidettje on Sun, 15 August 2021, 13:51:26
Hiho,

Onto the move into ANSI, found a sweet spot in mixing ANSI with ISO enter. Add to that the usage of VIA / QMK to setup tildes, « and — in secondary layers and whatnot to finetune couple more keys and you are able to use any base kit of any keycap set 99% of the time. Altough most of the time you have to solder for the ISO enter (Not something expensive nor difficult to learn given the amount of video tutorials) At least to me it was easy to adjust than an ergo/alice layout.

In any case, extremelly thankful for the amount of resources to try to have ISO-ES on our keyboards. Great Job guys! :thumb:

Hope this helped!






Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 16/8/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Mon, 16 August 2021, 03:49:24
So little options for ISO-ES...

I like the pimpmykeyboard ones but almost $300 to cover all the needs in my small TKL layout...that's crazy!

I would like some black themed DSA, i'm starting to think that's impossible. I will have to choose between a blank kit or to struggle my brain on a change to ANSI.

I must say that at some point the links to pimpmykeyboard were the first on the list, for no particular reason, and then I thought: mmm.. I've heard great things about these keysets, maybe I could buy one? And then I checked the prices... and moved them down on the list in order not to scare anyone new to the hobby  :D

There is DSA Milkshake coming out in September, if I'm not mistaken (about the date). But it is white themed, I'm afraid.

Onto the move into ANSI, found a sweet spot in mixing ANSI with ISO enter. Add to that the usage of VIA / QMK to setup tildes, « and — in secondary layers and whatnot to finetune couple more keys and you are able to use any base kit of any keycap set 99% of the time. Altough most of the time you have to solder for the ISO enter (Not something expensive nor difficult to learn given the amount of video tutorials) At least to me it was easy to adjust than an ergo/alice layout.

At first I thought about just doing that (ANSI with ISO enter) but I don't know why, having the symbol labels in the wrong places (even though I never look at the keyboard when I type) totally triggers some kind of OCD in me. I mean, I could have klingon labels in all keys and I wouldn't care. But having the "," in the wrong key... aarg.

Thankfully, I must say that, since I started this thread, things don't look so dire for ES (and PT/IT) users. There are no running GBs right now, but MOQs for everything non-GMK (which usually have the most boring designs, anyway) actually allow for designers to include support for our layouts, and the sales numbers for the latest GBs were actually pretty decent.

And once things get going after summer, it looks like there is going to be at least one or two GBs that support ES or South layouts every month... (I just added a couple more of ICs to the list).

I'm not losing hope yet!  :)
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 16/8/2021)
Post by: Jorge on Thu, 19 August 2021, 15:03:06
Keychron is adding a OEM PBT dye-sub keycap set in ISO-ES. For just $40 it seems a reasonable option if someone likes the retro-mac style. It's intended as a full set for keychron's K2 and new Q1, but perhaps it's a good option for a common TKL or smaller board.

https://www.keychron.com/products/iso-dye-sub-oem-pbt-keycap-set?variant=39411835895897 (https://www.keychron.com/products/iso-dye-sub-oem-pbt-keycap-set?variant=39411835895897)
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 16/8/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Fri, 20 August 2021, 06:44:31
Keychron is adding a OEM PBT dye-sub keycap set in ISO-ES. For just $40 it seems a reasonable option if someone likes the retro-mac style. It's intended as a full set for keychron's K2 and new Q1, but perhaps it's a good option for a common TKL or smaller board.

https://www.keychron.com/products/iso-dye-sub-oem-pbt-keycap-set?variant=39411835895897 (https://www.keychron.com/products/iso-dye-sub-oem-pbt-keycap-set?variant=39411835895897)

Thanks for the tip, I've added it to the list! Being Keychron, hopefully it will be soon be sold by some of their distributors in the EU (I'll update the link if that happens).
But great news, anyway, because having a cheap starting point for people dipping their toes in the hobby is really nice!

(Glorious also had ES keycaps, but they haven't updated them for the GMMK Pro  :( )
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/8/2021)
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 27 August 2021, 08:50:44
If nothing else, you should make a honorable mention to KAT Lich (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104129.0;all), which was the first GB to include a proper BRESLAPTIT (http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/Possible-International-Kits-for-Custom-Sets/#BRESLAPTIT) (a.k.a. "south") kit. I wonder if extras are still available.

Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/8/2021)
Post by: ylothar on Fri, 27 August 2021, 13:39:15
I believe the set / dev / tty MT3 on Drop may be of interest: it's not available right now but it's a great set  :cool:

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https://drop.com/buy/drop-matt3o-devtty-custom-keycap-set
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/8/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Sat, 28 August 2021, 05:30:39
If nothing else, you should make a honorable mention to KAT Lich (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104129.0;all), which was the first GB to include a proper BRESLAPTIT (http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/Possible-International-Kits-for-Custom-Sets/#BRESLAPTIT) (a.k.a. "south") kit. I wonder if extras are still available.

Added! I didnít know that the first GB with a South kit was just from last year! (It certainly means that things are getting better, hopefully!)

P.S. if that guide is yours: thanks a lot. I saw it months ago, but I didnít save the link, and I wanted to find it again because itís a great resource when asking for ďSouthĒ support in ICs.

I believe the set / dev / tty MT3 on Drop may be of interest: it's not available right now but it's a great set  :cool:
https://drop.com/buy/drop-matt3o-devtty-custom-keycap-set

Oooh, nice! Iíve added that one and the one Biip designed for Drop as well (although the kitting of Biipís one is bit strange). I saw in his discord that they were going to restock it next month, so hopefully Drop will also restock the one you linked soon.

óóó

Iíve also added a new section for keycap sets that donít belong to any language in particular (and thus everyone who follows this thread might find useful), and a couple more ICs to the list.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 3/9/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Fri, 03 September 2021, 11:07:05
Both versions of the Milkshake keycaps are available to preorder (there is no MOQ and theyíll probably keep stock after they start shipping).

DSA Milkshake (https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-dsa-milkshake)
PBT Cherry Milkshake (https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-cherry-milkshake)
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 3/9/2021)
Post by: Prelim on Sat, 04 September 2021, 03:15:25
GMK Norkeuk++ kits also include PT
GMK Electric GB will start 6/Sep and also have PT in the Nordeuk addon.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 3/9/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Sat, 04 September 2021, 09:17:22
GMK Norkeuk++ kits also include PT
GMK Electric GB will start 6/Sep and also have PT in the Nordeuk addon.

Thanks for the tip, Iíve added them to the list!  :)
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 6/9/2021)
Post by: ale210 on Thu, 09 September 2021, 02:56:19
Hello @salgiza

first of all, thank you so much for your job, this is a VERY useful info for somebody that they looking for a decent quality ISO-ES keycaps (like me). I will check this thread often.

Check this Aliexpress Iso-es keycaps set

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005003004810814.html?

Venga nos vemos!
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 6/9/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Thu, 09 September 2021, 04:02:49
Check this Aliexpress Iso-es keycaps set
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005003004810814.html?

Thanks, added to the list!
I've put all the AliExpress sets inside a "more" tag, though, because the list is growing (and there is a good chance that it will keep growing as soon as PT and IT only sets start to appear in it).

And as an additional note: GMMK confirmed a few days ago that they will release update keycap sets for the GMMK Pro with DE, UK & ES support (and hopefully PT/IT will follow). As soon as they are available I'll add a link.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 9/9/2021)
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 09 September 2021, 04:18:27
Drop have a Tai Hao set that includes Spanish, Portuguese and Italian (along with quite a few others)  Looks like the "Dark Tunnel" set you have listed above, but being available from Drop might provide an alternative for some users.

https://drop.com/buy/tai-hao-exotic-layout-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set?mode=guest_open
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 9/9/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Thu, 09 September 2021, 04:30:22
Drop have a Tai Hao set that includes Spanish, Portuguese and Italian (along with quite a few others)  Looks like the "Dark Tunnel" set you have listed above, but being available from Drop might provide an alternative for some users.

https://drop.com/buy/tai-hao-exotic-layout-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

Thanks! I've added the link next to the existing one (I'm keeping Eloquentcliks as the main one because I try to add EU shops when possible, to avoid taxes/shipping costs).

The list keeps growing!  :)
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 9/9/2021)
Post by: Juan Molano Alvarez on Sun, 12 September 2021, 15:50:58
En Aliexpres ha salido un conjunto nuevo, el botanical. Es una imitacion pero tiene buena pinta.
Enhorabuena y gracias por los aportes a todos.
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005003124761925.html?algo_pvid=03f87455-1c86-4cdb-90d5-e57231de21b9&algo_exp_id=03f87455-1c86-4cdb-90d5-e57231de21b9-2&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000024232979635%22%7D
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 9/9/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Mon, 13 September 2021, 02:38:07
En Aliexpres ha salido un conjunto nuevo, el botanical. Es una imitacion pero tiene buena pinta.
Enhorabuena y gracias por los aportes a todos.
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005003124761925.html?algo_pvid=03f87455-1c86-4cdb-90d5-e57231de21b9&algo_exp_id=03f87455-1c86-4cdb-90d5-e57231de21b9-2&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000024232979635%22%7D

Added to the list!

I've also added a link to the DSA PetriKeys (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114538.0) interest check. They are considering adding support for International layouts so, for any one that reads this, check the IC and, if you like it, fill in the IC form and add a comment asking (politely) for ES/IT/PT or South support!
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/9/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Mon, 20 September 2021, 03:16:31
On sad news, I've removed KAM Sewing Tin (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112929.0) from the Interest Checks (IC) list. Not enough people voted on the interest form and they've finally decided not to support our layout.

I know that many of you already know this but, for those who don't: if you see a link in Interest Checks that you like, click on the Google form that you will always find in its main post, and fill it in, specifying (even it's in a comment) that you would like support for your particular layout (ES/IT/PT) or a South kit if possible. That's mostly what ICs are today: a way to check how many people would buy specific kits and add them or not to the keyset. No votes (or very few), and the kit won't be included. Enough votes, and any IC might add a South set.

In that line: any IC might actually add a South kit if enough people vote for it in the IC form (well, except maybe GMK sets as those have very high MOQs). If you see an IC that you like and its not in the IC list, don't hesitate to share it in this thread and ask for votes, as there might be more people interested in buying it that had not seen the IC!

While things have improved a lot in the last year, South kits are still a gamble (I've seen GBs where they've sold 30+ units, but other GBs where it's been as low as 2-3 units), and keyset creators will not support our layout if not enough people fill in the IC form, no matter how many times you ask for support in the IC thread.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/9/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Mon, 20 September 2021, 03:18:03
As an added note: the GB for SA Polyclear (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114643.0;topicseen) is live. Not a south kit per se, but if you ever wanted to have a full (or partial) transparent keyboard, now is your chance.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 21/9/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Tue, 21 September 2021, 08:08:49
Good news today: ePBT Creative Studio (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111651.0) has announced support for IT/ES/PT/BR/LA layouts!

This is an amazing set for those who use Adobe Creative Studio!
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 22/9/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Wed, 22 September 2021, 07:18:17
Another day, another IC: ePBT Maras (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114669.0).

Unfortunately, this one only supports ES (and LA) layouts but, as always, fill in the Google form if you are interested in PT or IT support!
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 27/9/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Mon, 27 September 2021, 15:03:52
Added a link to the Eloquentclicks ePBT Sumeria (https://www.eloquentclicks.com/es/producto/epbt-sumeria/) IC. I just confirmed on their discord that the keyset will include ES, PT & IT support!
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 27/9/2021)
Post by: Taziza on Tue, 28 September 2021, 05:14:35
Than kyou so much for your work on this. Excellent initiative.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 4/10/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Mon, 04 October 2021, 03:56:34
A few updates today:


And, as always, vote/ask for South layout supports in every IC that you see that seems interesting, be it linked here or not! Currently I'm only keeping track of ES/IT/PT keysets (when South is not supported), but South includes support for BR and LA as well, and together we are a lot of people. If we can get the ball rolling, we can even dream of buying GMK keysets some day! (one can only dream...)  :cool:

Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 4/10/2021)
Post by: ale210 on Tue, 05 October 2021, 02:25:22
A few updates today:

  • KAM Command GB is going live today. I still link to the IC thread, I'll update the link to the GB thread once it's approved.
  • Preorders for DSA Milkshake and PBT Cherry Milkshake closed this weekend. These sets will be back as in-stock keysets once they have been manufactured (with a higher sales price), at the beginning of 2022 if everything goes well.

And, as always, vote/ask for South layout supports in every IC that you see that seems interesting, be it linked here or not! Currently I'm only keeping track of ES/IT/PT keysets (when South is not supported), but South includes support for BR and LA as well, and together we are a lot of people. If we can get the ball rolling, we can even dream of buying GMK keysets some day! (one can only dream...)  :cool:



Thanks for your dedication, much apreciated!
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 4/10/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Tue, 05 October 2021, 03:31:15
Than kyou so much for your work on this. Excellent initiative.

Thanks for your dedication, much apreciated!

Thanks a lot for your words!

Today we have a new IC addition: ePBT Submerged (ES/PT/IT) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114736.0), and I've also updated the link for the KAM Command (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113780.0) group buy.

On sadder news, I've removed  GMK WOB NORDEUK++ R2 (PT Only) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107995.0) from the list of ICs, as the author has had problems reaching out to GMK, and has put the project on indefinite hold.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 11/10/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Mon, 11 October 2021, 03:49:04
Ahh... life is a rollercoaster of emotions when you enter this hobby as a non-ANSI user...

This week I'm removing DCS Solarized Dark (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114170.0) from the list of ICs. They have finally added an "Ů" for LATAM users, but there is no ES, PT or IT support in the final kitting (not enough demand in the IC form...)

Also, remember to check and share the KAM Command (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113780.0) set currently in GB! Sales are currently quite low for such an original set, and numbers for the ES and IT layouts don't look good.. to say the least  :(
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Wed, 20 October 2021, 04:04:51
I've just added the new Glorious keysets to the list of in-stock keysets: GPBT Caribbean Ocean (https://www.caseking.de/en/Glorious-PC-Gaming-Race-GPBT-Keycaps-115-PBT-Tastenkappen-ISO-ES-Layout-Caribbean-Ocean-GATA-1527.html), GPBT Rain Forest (https://www.caseking.de/en/Glorious-PC-Gaming-Race-GPBT-Keycaps-115-PBT-Tastenkappen-ISO-ES-Layout-Rain-Forest-GATA-1528.html), GPBT Artic White (https://www.caseking.de/en/Glorious-PC-Gaming-Race-GPBT-Keycaps-115-PBT-Tastenkappen-ISO-ES-Layout-Arctic-White-GATA-1525.html), GPBT Black Ash (https://www.caseking.de/en/Glorious-PC-Gaming-Race-GPBT-Keycaps-115-PBT-Tastenkappen-ISO-ES-Layout-Black-Ash-GATA-1526.html). For now they are only available in ES layout, but Glorious has previously also released PT versions of their keysets, so I guess that those should appear soon (the ISO-ES versions just appeared out of nowhere last week).

Anyway, it's nice to have a bigger selection of cheap in-stock sets so that you can build a keyboard now and maybe buy nicer keycaps in the future!

P.S. I've also removed the link to SA Polyclear (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114643.0) from Unusual keycap sets, as the GB ends today (if you are reading this, you might still be able to buy transparent keycaps, if that's your thing!)
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: namidettje on Sat, 23 October 2021, 05:04:28
Dunno if we are able to post it here, but a handful of GMK clone sets in alliexpress recently have added (afaik) ISO-ES among other ISO-countries

Sets like, Mizu, Olivia, Botanical , daifuku.

Keep up with the good work mate, you hit it out of the park.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: Juan Molano Alvarez on Sat, 23 October 2021, 16:55:20
Im interested in those alliexprress sests but i cant find them.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Sat, 23 October 2021, 17:04:52
Dunno if we are able to post it here, but a handful of GMK clone sets in alliexpress recently have added (afaik) ISO-ES among other ISO-countries

Sets like, Mizu, Olivia, Botanical , daifuku.

Keep up with the good work mate, you hit it out of the park.

Cheers.

:O The Botanical one is already linked in the main post, but I didnít know that is was a clone of a GMK set!

Yeah, Iím also torn between looking for them and link them or, if that would be (understandably) not a nice thing to do in these forumsÖ
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: merrytypist on Sun, 24 October 2021, 03:47:21
I've managed to find Botanical and Mizu (I could send the link if you want), but not Olivia or Daifuku.

I don't think it's unethical to link clone keysets when the original ones don't have your language options. I would pay whatever to have an Olivia ISO ES, but GMK is never going to bother.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)e
Post by: salgiza on Mon, 25 October 2021, 03:22:09
I've managed to find Botanical and Mizu (I could send the link if you want), but not Olivia or Daifuku.

I don't think it's unethical to link clone keysets when the original ones don't have your language options. I would pay whatever to have an Olivia ISO ES, but GMK is never going to bother.

MmmÖ Iíve compared the botanical set (the one that I had linked) and it even copies the novelties. It might be fine if they were just ďinspiredĒ by the original sets, or just had the same colours, but letís remember that this is a forum where keycap designers meet and publish their sets, and we are not going to make any friends by linking to AlliExpress sets that are blatantly copying their designs  :(

Also, between the new Glorious GPBT sets and the new Keychron ones, we finally have several cheap (and nice looking) options to get into the hobby using ISO-ES keysets, which Iíd rather recommend.

Regarding GMK, btw, the magic number is 100 (the minimum numbers of kits that have to be sold for a South kit to be manufactured). Looking at sales of current and past GBs (which support South or ES/IT/PT layouts), we are still far away from that, but I donít think the number is unattainable! One of the reasons I created this post, in fact, was to make it easier for people to enter the hobby, so that maybe one that we can reach that number!
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: merrytypist on Mon, 25 October 2021, 05:03:53
Yeah, it makes sense for them to have a minimum number of kits ordered in order to make a batch.

But when it comes to proven successful designs (like the ones we are discussing now), I often wonder why sites like mykeyboard.eu or eloquentclicks.com won't order something like 50 base kits + south kits and then keep the combination in stock until they sell out. It's hard to imagine they won't eventually sell 50 Olivia or Bonatnical reissues to south-layout users.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: ylothar on Mon, 25 October 2021, 16:04:37
The more I read the latest posts, the more I am convinced that the best way to protect the wonderful work of keycap designers and make sets for south languages achievable is to promote our hobby as much as possible in the countries that have been mentioned (ES, PT and of course IT, my country).

I also appeal to keycap designers: promote ISO layout and support for south languages!
Create more renderings that show them and insert dedicated options in the IC forms, make it clear that you want to take these options seriously, and I'm sure the answer will not fail to arrive :cool:
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: merrytypist on Tue, 26 October 2021, 15:14:47
The IC for GMK Universe ( https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115039.0 ) has recently added a NorDeUK kit with a "—". Could this be a hint for other language layouts to come?
Please fill the IC form and ask the creator for a south kit ^-^ !
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Wed, 27 October 2021, 07:05:31
Updates:

I've changed the GPBT links to point to eloquentclics instead of the German page I originally linked.
Biip has mentioned in Discord that the DROP + BIIP MT3 EXTENDED 2048 (https://drop.com/buy/drop-biip-mt3-extended-custom-keycap-set) international kit is going to be updated with extra keys (hopefully to include the missing ES, and I don't know if IT/PT keys), so that it matches the kit for PBT Cherry Milkshake (https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-cherry-milkshake). Also, PBT Notion (https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-notion) should include an international set when it's restocked in Q1 2022. All of these should be in-stock items (not GBs), so they will be extra options for those entering the hobby.


The more I read the latest posts, the more I am convinced that the best way to protect the wonderful work of keycap designers and make sets for south languages achievable is to promote our hobby as much as possible in the countries that have been mentioned (ES, PT and of course IT, my country).

I also appeal to keycap designers: promote ISO layout and support for south languages!
Create more renderings that show them and insert dedicated options in the IC forms, make it clear that you want to take these options seriously, and I'm sure the answer will not fail to arrive :cool:

100% agree.


But when it comes to proven successful designs (like the ones we are discussing now), I often wonder why sites like mykeyboard.eu or eloquentclicks.com won't order something like 50 base kits + south kits and then keep the combination in stock until they sell out. It's hard to imagine they won't eventually sell 50 Olivia or Bonatnical reissues to south-layout users.

That's something I've wondered myself many times. That being said, 100 units is the MOQ, but I'm sure that if we got to something like 70-80 the distributor would probably buy the remaining kits and sell them as extras, even if it's as separate kits. The two most successful GBs this summer (KAT Space Dust (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113012.0) and ePBT Scandi (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113356.50)) sold 41-43 south kits. As I mentioned, we are not that far away, but we still have to get more people interested in this hobby...

On the other side of the coin, though, KAT Great Wave (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113443) only sold 5 south kits, and the currently running GB KAT Command (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114842) has only sold only 5 (ES+LA+IT) kits, so far... :(


The IC for GMK Universe ( https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115039.0 ) has recently added a NorDeUK kit with a "—". Could this be a hint for other language layouts to come?
Please fill the IC form and ask the creator for a south kit ^-^ !

IC form filled in!!! Although I think GMK south kits are still out of reach (I could see an extended Norde + ES, PT, IT, or a combination, though, as GMK Electric did with PT).
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: Juan Molano Alvarez on Thu, 28 October 2021, 13:02:38
Im pretty sure that there are many people interested in this keyboard world, is just is very dificult to find.
If you sent this web site to a well known youtuber as Nate Gentile, maybe people would start to know this site.
I discover this page just few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: Juan Molano Alvarez on Fri, 29 October 2021, 08:18:39
Here another multilanguage keycaps from Tai hao
https://www.tai-hao.com/catalog/ins.php?index_id=59
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Tue, 02 November 2021, 05:43:48
Here another multilanguage keycaps from Tai hao
https://www.tai-hao.com/catalog/ins.php?index_id=59

Hi Juan, have you found any shop that actually sells that set? (I've been searching for it and I can't find any). I'm not sure how Tai-Hao sets work, as EloquentClicks actually run some sort of GB to get the Dark Tunnels sets that they currently have in stock. Maybe they were produced in the past? Same thing happens with the Tai-Hao Miami set, that has an international set (https://shop.tai-hao.com/products/pbt-43-key-international-key-set) with ES support, but I haven't seen it sold anywhere. Warning: looking at that set might blind you.

P.S. I'll take the chance to remind everyone that the KAM Command GB will end in two days!
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
Post by: Juan Molano Alvarez on Wed, 03 November 2021, 15:09:49
I dont knowany shop tah could sell it. Last time i bought a keycap set frot tai hao i did it directly from their web.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 5/11/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Fri, 05 November 2021, 05:46:56
I've removed the KAM Command (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114842) GB, as it finished yesterday. Next one will be ePBT Avilo (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113866.0) (ES Only) on November 19th.

Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 5/11/2021)
Post by: Nascent on Thu, 11 November 2021, 01:51:59
New IC for ePBT Fronter https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115269.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115269.0). I've already answered the IC Form to ask if a South kit would be possible, or a larger interrnational kit, like the one BIIP used for the latest run of PBT Cherry Milkshake. Maybe if there's enough interest, we'll get the designer to modify the international kit, or add a South one
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 5/11/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Fri, 12 November 2021, 03:39:59
New IC for ePBT Fronter https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115269.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115269.0). I've already answered the IC Form to ask if a South kit would be possible, or a larger interrnational kit, like the one BIIP used for the latest run of PBT Cherry Milkshake. Maybe if there's enough interest, we'll get the designer to modify the international kit, or add a South one

I've added ePBT Frontier (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115269.0) to the list of ICs, let's see if we can get a south kit of this one!

P.S. I wasn't sure if this was worth posting a message here, but DSA Milkshake (https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-dsa-milkshake) and PBT Cherry Milkshake (https://oblotzky.industries/products/pbt-cherry-milkshake) are temporary open for extra preorders, in case someone missed them the first time. These sets will be in-stock items (that means that they will keep manufacturing new kits as they sell), but you can buy them for a lower price during the preorder period.
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 18/11/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Thu, 18 November 2021, 03:32:40
Good news, although only for ES users, today: the GB for ePBT Maras (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115333.0) is live and supports both ES and LA layouts.
Not only that, tomorrow is also the launch day for the ePBT Avilo (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113866.0) GB, which also supports the ES layout.

I'd rather prefer it if GBs started supporting the full South kit, though. So for all of those Portuguese and Italian users that might read this, remember to fill in the IC forms!!!! (And everyone, ES users included, please ask for a South kit!)
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/11/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Tue, 23 November 2021, 03:48:58
Updates:

* I've added links to all the newly available Keychron keysets (most of them just in ES layouts, if you know of any shop that sells them for IT or PT layouts let me know and I'll link them).
* I've also added links (under the Unusual group) for the new Lord of the Rings keysets. If you ever wanted to write in Elvish or Dwarvish, here is your keyset! :)

I'm torn about the Tai-Hao Dark Tunnel set and the /dev/tty set. The first one is out of stock (and I'm not sure when/if it will be restocked) and the second one has had the International kit removed from the list of available kits! I'm going to leave the links for a while just in case but, if they remain unavailable in a few months, I will remove the links (thankfully, the list has grown and we have quite a few options now).
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/11/2021)
Post by: cbz001 on Tue, 23 November 2021, 04:46:10
Updates:

* I've added links to all the newly available Keychron keysets (most of them just in ES layouts, if you know of any shop that sells them for IT or PT layouts let me know and I'll link them).

Just found this ISO-ITA set on Amazon.de, just a knock-off but I took it (I guess I'll buy anything ISO-ITA) and in a month I can tell you how it is.

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09D3JSWFX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Also, you can find all the keycaps from Keychron directly from them (ESP, ITA) and all their 3 sets are available at the moment: https://www.keychron.com/collections/iso-pbt-keycaps-for-q1-k2


PS: I really would like an MT3 italian set, any idea where I can find one? :)
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/11/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Tue, 23 November 2021, 06:29:09
Just found this ISO-ITA set on Amazon.de, just a knock-off but I took it (I guess I'll buy anything ISO-ITA) and in a month I can tell you how it is.

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09D3JSWFX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Also, you can find all the keycaps from Keychron directly from them (ESP, ITA) and all their 3 sets are available at the moment: https://www.keychron.com/collections/iso-pbt-keycaps-for-q1-k2


PS: I really would like an MT3 italian set, any idea where I can find one? :)

Ha! Good catch about the Keychron IT keycaps available directly from them! I've updated the links. Just in case anyone wonders: I always try to add an EU vendor as the main link as, well, if you need an ES/IT/PT keyset you are probably in the EU and shipping costs/import taxes will be cheaper.

I'm not going to link to the Amazon set for the same reason I gave merrytypist (in fact, I originally had this set linked to the AliExpress seller before I discovered that it was a copy). This is a forum, among other people, for keyset designers, and I don't feel comfortable linking to knock-offs. That being said, I'm really curious about the quality of the keyset!

And regarding an MT3 set, /dev/tty (https://drop.com/buy/drop-matt3o-devtty-custom-keycap-set) was the only one with full IT & ES support that I knew of, but the International kit has been removed from the list. I have no idea whether they are going to restock it again, but the fact that it has been removed instead of marked as out of stock does not look good. I also read that Biip was going to update the international kit for Extended 2048 (https://drop.com/buy/drop-biip-mt3-extended-custom-keycap-set) (which has partial ES support right now), but I don't know if IT is in the plans.

I also want to try an MT3 set, so don't hesitate to vote/comment on the /dev/tty page and see if we can get it back... if not, we can always try to learn Elvish (https://drop.com/buy/drop-the-lord-of-the-rings-mt3-elvish-keycap-set) :D
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/11/2021)
Post by: cbz001 on Tue, 23 November 2021, 07:33:15
I'm not going to link to the Amazon set for the same reason I gave merrytypist (in fact, I originally had this set linked to the AliExpress seller before I discovered that it was a copy). This is a forum, among other people, for keyset designers, and I don't feel comfortable linking to knock-offs. That being said, I'm really curious about the quality of the keyset!

I totally agree about the knock-off treatment but this is the case where there's no original alternative, which I would buy in an heartbeat if it was available but it was never produced... am I right?
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/11/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Tue, 23 November 2021, 16:06:23
I totally agree about the knock-off treatment but this is the case where there's no original alternative, which I would buy in an heartbeat if it was available but it was never produced... am I right?

But you could buy any other keyset from one of the (few, thatís true) designers or manufacturers that support our layouts, so that they see the interest and keep supporting us in the future! And Iím sure that the author of the Botanical keyset wouldnít be amused if they found that I was promoting a copy of their design in the main post.

Donít get me wrong, I totally understand that you bought it, Iím sure other IT users will appreciate the fact that you shared that link, and Iím really curious about reading your opinion when you receive it. But I wouldnít  feel comfortable trying to convince designers to add a South kit (as I do when I see a keyset that I like) while at the same time I link to copies of their designs :(
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/11/2021)
Post by: cbz001 on Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:52:06
Don't know if this is the right place for reviews but... I've just got the Keychron set and is kinda low quality (light, ugly color, poor printing). It made me buy the Kono SA Granite right away...
Title: Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/11/2021)
Post by: salgiza on Thu, 02 December 2021, 16:43:18
Don't know if this is the right place for reviews but... I've just got the Keychron set and is kinda low quality (light, ugly color, poor printing). It made me buy the Kono SA Granite right away...

Arg, so sad to hear that. And yes! I think that reviews of the linked sets (and even of the non-linked bootleg sets) will always be appreciated!