GB thread is live! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103263.0)
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The Yugo — a small, unassuming hatchback, regarded by many as one of the worst road vehicles of all time. (and with good reason) Yet, it holds a special place in the hearts of all of those who grew up somewhere in the former Yugoslavia.
And that's us!
We're YugoMK, a young, growing community of mech keyboard enthusiasts from the Balkans / ex-Yugoslavia. Our current members hail from: Croatia, Slovenia, Serbia, Bosnia, and even Sweden!
GMK Yugo is our first community project — and that's what it truly is, a community project. This means that we'll be taking no profits from the sales of the set, which in turn means lower prices for everyone. Even though it started out as a joke (and still kinda is :D ), we're now pretty serious about getting this set out there! However, it being a community set first and foremost, we've designed it exactly how we would want it — no compromises.
We invite you to discuss the set in our Discord channels: Graystudio (https://discord.gg/GdZMeWn), Emir's laboratory (https://discord.gg/G5Rzfn3).
Colors
Taking inspiration from the Yugo GV Sport (GV stands for “good value” lol), a special “sport” edition Yugo that was marketed in the US in the 80's, we've decided to go with a nice, sun-faded yellow as the base color for the whole set. The crimson, orange and brown accents were taken from the GV Sport's signature stripe.
Alphas and mods: RAL 095 90 20
Legends and accents: RAL 030 30 45
Spacebar stripes: RAL 050 50 60, RAL 030 30 45, RAL 040 20 19
(https://i.imgur.com/4bQguyy.png) (https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-design/ral-095-90-20) (https://i.imgur.com/YDYcR5h.png) (https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-design/ral-030-30-45) (https://i.imgur.com/eFp6q8y.png) (https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-design/ral-050-50-60) (https://i.imgur.com/xZGRUTg.png) (https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-design/ral-040-20-19)
Inspiration: More
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Kits
Yugo 45 kit
The ubiquitous Yugo 45, the base model, the dad of all other Yugos. The everyman's car.
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A base kit tailored to fit the needs of the community. It offers TKL coverage for YU ISO, YU ANSI and physical ANSI, while also supporting most other popular layouts: HHKB, 60%, 65%, 66-key, 75%, etc. You say Hiragana base? We say YU base!
Before I hear you say: “physical ANSI compatibility only? what??!?!” — yep, you saw it right. In good old true Yugoslav spirit, we're focusing on covering our own stuff. So yes, YU ISO support comes first. Tito would be proud. :D
Capitalism kit
yugo can into US market? Sure can, and so can you with the Capitalism kit!
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That's not to say that you will have to pay a premium to enjoy US ANSI and US ISO compatibility with this set. Since this is a community project and we're forgoing all profits, we are aiming for a low cost for this kit from the start. We've also included an extra 2.25u Shift for those who want to use a US layout on a 66-key board.
Additionally, we've managed to include full UK ISO compatibility in the kit without increasing the price for US buyers. It's a win for both sides of the pond.
Yugo 55 kit
Yugo 45 not enough? Need a heftier machine? Add a tenkey, and there you have it — Yugo 55. What a beast.
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Our numpad kit includes compatibility for 1800, CP, 96-key and full-size boards, plus a few extra keys that, in true auto industry fashion, we felt weren't worth including with the base kit.
Cabrio kit
Need more space in your Yugo? Pop your sunroof open and give our Cabrio kit a try!
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This kit has all your split and accented spacebar necessities. Three of the spacebars have been pimped out with the signature orange–red–brown stripe of the Yugo GV Sport. This stripe will be UV printed on the front of the caps by GMK, giving you that retro SPORT look while not sacrificing durability.
A 2u space and extra B are also included for ergo boards.
Zastava kit
The company that gave us Yugo and many other great (but mostly terrible) cars. A powerhouse of the Yugoslav economy since 1953, Zastava was based out of Kragujevac, Serbia until 2008, when it was bought out by Fiat.
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Today we commemorate Zastava with our YU Cyrillic alphas kit — the first of its kind for GMK, and the first ever non-Russian Cyrillic kit in any custom keycap set!
The kit covers several variants of the Serbian Cyrillic layout (ISO, ANSI, split backspace), as well as offering basic support for Macedonian.
Special thanks to T0mb3ry for helping create these beautiful new Cyrillic legends.
Renders
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Westfoxtrot Cypher
Yugo 45 + Yugo 55 + Cabrio
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Noxary 280
Yugo 45 + Capitalism
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Dixie Bauer
Yugo 45 + Zastava + Capitalism + Cabrio
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Smith+Rune IRON165
Yugo 45 + Zastava + Capitalism + Cabrio + Artisan
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Renders by MacSurfy
Extras
We will be offering the lovely deskmat from the renders as an option during the GB. My favorite feature: the road signs on the deskmat show the names of the capitals of the six former Yugoslav republics, in Latin and Cyrillic.
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We will also be offering an aluminum artisan cap made by Salvun. The cap is cerakoted black with silver enamel infill. It gets its distinctive shape from the classic Yugo hood badge and logo.
(https://i.imgur.com/sYqm7B4.png) (https://i.imgur.com/Oqnv4gc.jpg)
Custom cables in matching colors will also be available, courtesy of MechSoda (https://mechsoda.com/). The cables feature glow in the dark paracord (we don't condone driving without headlights at night), Techflex double sleeving, and optional coils and aviator connectors.
Group Buy
The group buy will run November 4th – December 18th 2019.
Vendors
- EU – mykeyboard.eu (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/gmk-yugo_217/)
- US – Kono Store (https://kono.store/products/gmk-yugo)
- Oceania – DailyClack (https://dailyclack.com/products/gmk-yugo)
- Asia – zFrontier (https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-yugo)
Pricing
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Credits and Shoutouts
Thank you to the following YugoMK community members for participating:- ADRO3 (keyberzerker)
- audiosl4ve
- darko
- Emir
- konstantin
- spakecdk
We're very thankful to the following people who are helping make GMK Yugo a reality:- MacSurfy – A true render artist; thank you for taking our ideas and turning them into something special. Also, that deskmat is a masterpiece.
- T0mb3ry – Once again thank you for your patience and expertise, your help with the Cyrillic fonts and legends was invaluable. Please consider supporting T0mb3ry's upcoming SP SA Yuri / DCS Yuri (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101505.0), another awesome Cyrillic set.
- Salvun – gr8 artisan & gr8 m8
- David and Yuliia of mykeyboard.eu – Thanks for being awesome as always and being there for whatever we needed. Working with you is a treat.
- David of CandyKeys – Thank you for your help with the initial brainstorming and renders, it really helped get us going.
Also, a big shoutout to you ... if you put this in your signature :D Please consider supporting our set!
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Final Notes
Changelog
- 2019-08-24 – Added ideas/plans for extras
- 2019-10-13 – Added GB dates, added vendors, updated renders, minor kit changes, added details about extras
- 2019-10-31 – Updated GB dates
- 2019-11-03 – Posted finalized kits, pricing, color samples
- 2019-11-04 – Posted zFrontier pricing
2019-10-13 update
Hey guys, we have some updates for you! Some long overdue, some brand new. All of them awesome!
First and foremost, the group buy will run November 1st – December 15th 2019 via the following vendors:
- EU – mykeyboard.eu
- US – Kono Store
- Asia – zFrontier
- Oceania – Daily Clack
As for the kits, we have some updates here as well; namely:
- Super has been replaced with System (1.25u) and Sys (1u).
The System mold will be created for Yugo and both molds will be available for future sets to use. - A 1.25u convex spacebar has been added to the Cabrio kit.
- I've added updated renders with row numbers and keycap sizes to the OP.
- We're looking into adding UK compatibility to the Capitalism kit without increasing the price of the kit for US buyers.
The second quote request is on its way to GMK. We're pretty happy with the prices we got the first time around, and now we're looking to optimize things further and get more options. Anyway, here are the two updated kits:
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Deskmat reveal!
Well, kinda. You've already seen it in the renders, but since then we've updated the design and have ordered samples.
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My favorite feature are the signs, which feature the names of the capitals for the six former Yugoslav republics, in Latin and Cyrillic.
We've partnered with Salvun and MechSoda to bring artisans and cables (respectively) to the group buy.
The artisan cap is cerakoted aluminum with enamel infill. It takes its distinctive shape from the classic Yugo hood badge and logo.
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The cables will feature glow in the dark paracord (we don't condone driving without headlights at night) in a matching yellow color, Techflex double sleeving, and optional coils and aviator connectors. Pics of samples will be posted soon.
Last but not least, here's a photo of RAL D3 samples for the colors we picked. It's not the greatest since I took it with my phone a couple of weeks back (no white balance), but for what it's worth I thought the colors looked pretty accurate irl.
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(Yugo colors are the second yellow from the top and the bottommost red.)
We're looking into ordering our own RAL chips asap; with any luck, we'll have good quality photos of the colors in time for the start of the GB.
2019-10-31 update
Hey guys, after a few delays and some communication issues with GMK (the person in charge of Yugo went on vacation and it took some time for their colleague to get familiarized with the project), we got the final quote back last minute. We are now finalizing pricing with the vendors.
Because of this, we will have to postpone the start of the GB until Monday. The new dates are November 4th – December 18th 2019. We're very sorry for the delay!
2019-11-03 update
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Hey guys, the kits are finalized and the pricing is in!
Good news: we've managed to include full UK ISO compatibility in the Capitalism kit without increasing the price for US buyers. It's a win for both sides of the pond.
Yugo 45 kit
€106 @ 250 MOQ
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Capitalism kit
€34 @ 100 MOQ
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Yugo 55 kit
€39 @ 100 MOQ
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Cabrio kit
€28 @ 100 MOQ
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Zastava kit
€46 @ 100 MOQ
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Here's the pricing breakdown per vendor:
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The zFrontier pricing should be coming in early tomorrow morning.
The RAL samples have also arrived, just in time for the GB.
We'll be using these to color check the keycap samples we receive from GMK. Below are professionally taken, white balanced photos of the chips.
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The full album is available here. (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KLgoNM24dfTSzZ0HzC3aOa-Z0RfddeiR)
All in all, it's super exciting to see the set that we've worked on so hard on finally go into GB. Yugo is our baby. We hope you'll enjoy it.
See you tomorrow!
2019-11-04 update
The table has been updated with zFrontier's pricing.
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Well done, but the form Л, Д, У, Ч, and Ж raises questions. Л and Д of this form are not used in grotesques, although it is possible (obsolete form). Ж should be made of К and rhyme with it. X should no longer be a similar letter in Latin.
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Hi, thanks for your feedback!
T0m and I had quite a lengthy discussion about this, but we came to the conclusion that the forms we chose are the best fit for the set.
The Л and Д forms you proposed are great for Russian, but they're not the best choice for Serbian, Macedonian and Bulgarian (South Slavic languages that use the Cyrillic script). There is a lot of regional variety in Cyrillic typography, and the same rules don't apply across all of it. In Latin scripts, for example, you can expect the letter L to more or less always be the same basic shape (within a single family of typefaces), but this is not always the case with Cyrillic. For example, the lowercase letter П can correctly be written one of three ways, depending on which language you're writing: п, n, ū. These and other similar variations in Cyrillic glyphs are one of the reasons why locl (locale) support was added to the OpenType font format — so that the same letters (graphemes) can be rendered as different glyphs for different languages (locales).
Here's an example animation of the differences between Russian and South Slavic (Bulgarian in this case) Cyrillic non-cursive letter forms: http://i.imgur.com/58MzPiB.gif
I agree with you regarding Ж, К and Х. T0m and I are both aware of this. However, making these adjustments within the scope of GMK Yugo is not feasible — it would require producing even more new molds than we already need (~15). We can't afford it if we want to keep the cost of the kits low. The fixes for these and other discrepancies (there's several more of them) will likely have to wait until GMK Yuri R2 rolls around :)
У and Ч are fine, they fit the style of the Helvetica Rounded / Cherry typeface well.
Well done, but the form Л, Д, У, Ч, and Ж raises questions. Л and Д of this form are not used in grotesques, although it is possible (obsolete form). Ж should be made of К and rhyme with it. X should no longer be a similar letter in Latin.
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I talked already with you before about the Cyrillics. And i say it again: there are no rules which do dictate how У, Ч, and Ж should be made. Cherry font is its own thing. Those are my interpretation of those letters for Cherry font. They are not wrong and they are fine.
Sorry cant support this. You are taking the largest group that buys anything keeb related and forcing a child kit on them to have their correct legends. out of principle im out. someone send me a message or something if it gets combined.
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The YugoMK crew hard at work making decisions about the future of the set:
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Hard working people.
The YugoMK crew hard at work making decisions about the future of the set:
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Опа, драго ми је да има колега у хобију у Србији и региону.
Углавном ме сви гледају ко лудака кад објашњавам шта су механичке тастатуре и што дајем 200-300€ на тастатуре.
Translation:
Wow, I'm glad I have some fellow hobbyists in Serbia and in the region.
Mostly people are watching me as a weirdo for spending 200-300€ on a keyboard and ranting about them.
Живела СФРЈ Југославија :)
Does this car count as well? ;)
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Hah, sure does. Looks like a Stojadin. Guess what? Also produced by Zastava :D The model is Zastava 101 or Zastava Skala or Yugo Skala (wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zastava_Skala)).
Based on the sign on the building I'd say this was taken somewhere in Ukraine. Am I right?
What are the two yellows in the photos? Which one is the one being used?
(https://i.imgur.com/xZGRUTg.png) (https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-design/ral-040-20-19)
Inspiration: More
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Cabrio kit
Need more space in your Yugo? Pop your sunroof open and give our Cabrio kit a try!
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(https://i.imgur.com/SKYPiB4.png)
Three of the spacebars have been pimped out with the signature orange–red–brown stripe of the Yugo GV Sport. This stripe will be UV printed on the front of the caps by GMK, giving you that retro SPORT look while not sacrificing durability.
edit: missed that there were two yellows in the full album of samples. see below answer