Author Topic: Doubleshot Linux Super Key (Read 32080 times)

7bit · « **Reply #50 on:** Wed, 23 March 2011, 07:43:57 »

Quote from: urlwolf;316633

Is there any way we could get them not in 1.25 size, but 1.0? I have a POS kb I'd use it on. I'd order 8.

OK!

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kachaffeous · « **Reply #51 on:** Wed, 23 March 2011, 09:13:06 »

So if i order the linux key i'm getting the tuxkey4.svg right?

wuzle · « **Reply #52 on:** Wed, 23 March 2011, 09:59:14 »

Quote from: kachaffeous;316686

So if i order the linux key i'm getting the tuxkey4.svg right?

Yes

JBert · « **Reply #53 on:** Wed, 23 March 2011, 15:15:33 »

Quote from: 7bit;316641

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What row are they supposed to go on? I don't know if he can use 8 Escape keys...

JBert · « **Reply #54 on:** Wed, 30 March 2011, 14:45:24 »

From the mother thread:

Quote from: 7bit;321496

Hi folks!

I got a response from SP that the following SGV-files need to be modified to meet production requirements:

TUXKEY4.svg: feet must be 0.020" away from the body (currently only 0.010") which is 0.25mm instead of the required 0.5mm!

lotus.svg: leaves are too close to each other. The closest distances between them must be 0.5mm.

Can somebody look at that SVG?

wuzle · « **Reply #55 on:** Wed, 30 March 2011, 16:50:18 »

I am confused, from the SVG guide it says:

"gaps between lines must be at least 0.5mm"
"all lines must be at least 0.2mm thick"

In the linux key, the white space is what is considered the lines. As a result, the space between the body and feet should follow the "at least 0.2mm thick" rule, which it does.

I did notice in the SVG, that the white part is white, and the background is transparent. In the instructions, it says it says the shapes (lines) should be black and the background transparent. Maybe this caused the confusion?

7bit · « **Reply #56 on:** Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:02:36 »

Quote from: wuzle;321566

I am confused, from the SVG guide it says:

"gaps between lines must be at least 0.5mm"
"all lines must be at least 0.2mm thick"

In the linux key, the white space is what is considered the lines. As a result, the space between the body and feet should follow the "at least 0.2mm thick" rule, which it does.

I did notice in the SVG, that the white part is white, and the background is transparent. In the instructions, it says it says the shapes (lines) should be black and the background transparent. Maybe this caused the confusion?

I'm also confused.

I asked for a clarification...

...

I just looked a bit closer. I found some lines to be around 0.17mm .

Is it possible to make them around 0.35 mm?

wuzle · « **Reply #57 on:** Wed, 30 March 2011, 18:43:02 »

Quote from: 7bit;321572

I'm also confused.

I asked for a clarification...

...

I just looked a bit closer. I found some lines to be around 0.17mm .

Is it possible to make them around 0.35 mm?

Sure, I'll make the changes, although I won't get to it untill tomorrow.

wuzle · « **Reply #58 on:** Thu, 31 March 2011, 13:18:43 »

I increased the gaps between the feet and the body. Is that where you found the 0.17mm gap?

I also changed the shapes (lines) to black instead of white.

7bit · « **Reply #59 on:** Thu, 31 March 2011, 14:13:51 »

Quote from: wuzle;322099

I increased the gaps between the feet and the body. Is that where you found the 0.17mm gap?

I also changed the shapes (lines) to black instead of white.

I think itb is OK for the 1.25 units key. But is has to be smaller blown on a 1 units key:

7bit · « **Reply #60 on:** Thu, 31 March 2011, 17:03:50 »

If you don't provide a suitable SVG, I must skip both Tux keys.

Sorry!

mtl · « **Reply #61 on:** Thu, 31 March 2011, 17:48:32 »

How about these? I widened the left outline and removed the fine points from the eyes. TuxKey7 has reduced eyeballs in case eyeballs on TuxKey6 are too narrow.

I'm not sure what to do about your comment on the bottom edge. On my system the circle is not cut off. Can you explain the problem in more detail?

7bit · « **Reply #62 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 08:54:20 »

Quote from: mtl;322299

How about these? I widened the left outline and removed the fine points from the eyes. TuxKey7 has reduced eyeballs in case eyeballs on TuxKey6 are too narrow.

I'm not sure what to do about your comment on the bottom edge. On my system the circle is not cut off. Can you explain the problem in more detail?

In both graphics, the eyes are are wrong and still the visible section is not large enough on the bottom and top and too large at the sides!

Quote from: 7bit;322137

I think itb is OK for the 1.25 units key. But is has to be smaller blown on a 1 units key:

Show Image

Eyes larger means scale them larger than the rest of the graphic!

wuzle · « **Reply #63 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 10:32:08 »

If the eyes are any wider, the spacing between the eyes and distance from the side of the head will be greater than 0.5mm.

Did you ever here from SP about if they were mistaken in the spacing? Ie reversing what was a line and what was transparent that results in the spacing requirement being 0.5mm for the gap between the feet and body.

Also, I too don't see the cutoff circle at the bottom.

mtl · « **Reply #64 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 14:53:22 »

Quote from: wuzle;322740

If the eyes are any wider, the spacing between the eyes and distance from the side of the head will be greater than 0.5mm

Yes, this is exactly the problem with increasing size of the eyes. I think I fixed the problem where the ends of the eyes were "too tiny."

Also, I did notice where the sides of the SVG were too wide. I trimmed the document size to fit the circle exactly. Please check TuxKey8. Thanks.

7bit · « **Reply #65 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 14:55:52 »

Quote from: wuzle;322740

If the eyes are any wider, the spacing between the eyes and distance from the side of the head will be greater than 0.5mm.

Did you ever here from SP about if they were mistaken in the spacing? Ie reversing what was a line and what was transparent that results in the spacing requirement being 0.5mm for the gap between the feet and body.

Also, I too don't see the cutoff circle at the bottom.

But I see it!

I'm quite sure that the original version 4 is OK for the 1.25 units key. But on a 1 units key it will come out smaller!

Can you please take version 4 and make the tux in the circle as large as possible, without changing the relations of the parts of the tux?

Or maybe even a version where the tux sticks out of the circle with his feet and top section of his head.

wuzle · « **Reply #66 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:08:45 »

How about these. I created one that fits in the 1.0 width keys so they have a 9.04x10.84mm page size. And this svg will be used for both keys, unscaled just centered on both.

The 1.0 key (TUX):

The 1.25 key (LINUX):

And the svg is attached.

7bit · « **Reply #67 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:12:45 »

mtl · « **Reply #68 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:16:14 »

Ok, I increased the size of TuxKey4 so the head and feet are touching the edges of the circle. Is this what you wanted?

7bit · « **Reply #69 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:19:17 »

Quote from: mtl;322923

Ok, I increased the size of TuxKey4 so the head and feet are touching the edges of the circle. Is this what you wanted?

Yes, plus a versioon where the distances of feet and head to the circle are around 0.25mm!

gilgam · « **Reply #70 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:27:50 »

What about a white on black version ?
a white tux on black key (i ordered two)

7bit · « **Reply #71 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:30:27 »

I'm nerves killing you!

Sorry for that.

I think the version 9 is suitable for dopuble shot, except for the bottom area between the legs. The height must be around 0.5mm (currently only 0.4mm)

All other sections are OK.

You could even make the gape between body and feet a bit closer (0.25mm) when you blow the tux up within the circle, such that it is 0.25mm away from the circle (feet and head).

The only thinbg I don't like are the eyes, I love the version 4 eyes best!

PS: when we finished this, it will be the best tux key ever!

7bit · « **Reply #72 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:32:29 »

Quote from: gilgam;322929

What about a white on black version ?
a white tux on black key (i ordered two)

We had this version at the beginning. It sucks, because the tux looks like a ghost!

The only way out without that circle would be to have him on a white key.

mtl · « **Reply #73 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:36:53 »

Quote from: 7bit;322926

Yes, plus a versioon where the distances of feet and head to the circle are around 0.25mm!

Ok, this is TuxKey4 with tux blown up so his head and feet are around 0.25mm from the edge of the circle. Any changes needed?

wuzle · « **Reply #74 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:39:25 »

Quote from: 7bit;322930

I'm nerves killing you!

Sorry for that.

I think the version 9 is suitable for dopuble shot, except for the bottom area between the legs. The height must be around 0.5mm (currently only 0.4mm)

All other sections are OK.

You could even make the gape between body and feet a bit closer (0.25mm) when you blow the tux up within the circle, such that it is 0.25mm away from the circle (feet and head).

The only thinbg I don't like are the eyes, I love the version 4 eyes best!

PS: when we finished this, it will be the best tux key ever!

Here is version 9 with just the bottom area increased to > 0.5mm. I won't be able to more editing until maybe tomorrow. Hope this works.

mtl · « **Reply #75 on:** Fri, 01 April 2011, 21:46:29 »

I went back to the SVG keycap howto instructions and tried getting all the measurements right. The eyes are hard to get right, because the left eye (from our point of view) is too close to the side of Tux's head. So I gave Tux some goggles so he wouldn't look like one eye was cut off. When shrunk down to the size of a key cap, the problem will be less noticeable.

7bit · « **Reply #76 on:** Sat, 02 April 2011, 02:32:29 »

Quote from: mtl;323096

I went back to the SVG keycap howto instructions and tried getting all the measurements right. The eyes are hard to get right, because the left eye (from our point of view) is too close to the side of Tux's head. So I gave Tux some goggles so he wouldn't look like one eye was cut off. When shrunk down to the size of a key cap, the problem will be less noticeable.

Version 12 is the ugliest so far!

Version 9 with eyes from version 4, complete Tux blown up such that distances to circle are 0.25mm is the one to go for!

7bit · « **Reply #77 on:** Sat, 02 April 2011, 10:17:19 »

Quote from: ripster;323269

I prefer the stoned look versus the cross eyed look!

Sudo TUX!
Show Image
Show Image

^^^ Those are lame!

Our's will be the best ever Tux key of all times in the whole universe!

vhaarr · « **Reply #78 on:** Sat, 02 April 2011, 12:54:02 »

Oh man oh man oh man this is going to be SCHWEEEET!

cgoldberg · « **Reply #79 on:** Sat, 02 April 2011, 13:38:11 »

Quote from: 7bit;323292

Our's will be the best ever Tux key of all times in the whole universe!

nice!

7bit · « **Reply #80 on:** Sat, 02 April 2011, 16:39:59 »

[size=12]¡BUMP![/size]
Version 9 with eyes from version 4, complete Tux blown up such that distances to circle are 0.25mm is the one to go for!

Fwiffo · « **Reply #81 on:** Sat, 02 April 2011, 17:43:39 »

OK, I've taken TuxKey9.svg and pulled the eyes from TuxKey4.svg, then put it in a circle so that the gap between his feet and head and the edge of the circle is 0.25mm.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

7bit · « **Reply #82 on:** Sun, 03 April 2011, 03:49:44 »

Quote from: Fwiffo;323511

OK, I've taken TuxKey9.svg and pulled the eyes from TuxKey4.svg, then put it in a circle so that the gap between his feet and head and the edge of the circle is 0.25mm.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

Best version ever!

Thanks!

Can you please make 2 versions, one with changes only to the bottom section and one where the eyes are 0.05mm wider apart and the head is 0.05mm thicker at both sides (ie 0.1mm thicker in total)?

wuzle · « **Reply #83 on:** Sun, 03 April 2011, 06:07:26 »

Here is my version of TuxKey9 with TuxKey4 eyes:

7bit · « **Reply #84 on:** Sun, 03 April 2011, 08:26:14 »

Quote from: wuzle;323656

Here is my version of TuxKey9 with TuxKey4 eyes:

Show Image

OK, we are very close to the final solution:

Eyes in yiur version are a bit smaller than those from Fwiffo!

I prefer the larger eyes!

Maybe it is possible to take those and, if necessary, enlarge the head a slight bit, such that dists are 0.5!

Left: eyes are OK, right: eyes are too small!

wuzle · « **Reply #85 on:** Sun, 03 April 2011, 08:45:45 »

I am not going to have any time to do more edits for the next couple of days.

My favorite version is TuxKey9-1, I have played with head size, eye size and tons of other proportions and this I think is the best solution. It looks a little cross-eyed, but I printed this version out at actual size and you don't notice it.

Also, TuxKey4 is my favorite if we are just talking about a 1.25 width key.

7bit · « **Reply #86 on:** Sun, 03 April 2011, 09:28:18 »

Quote from: wuzle;323694

I am not going to have any time to do more edits for the next couple of days.

My favorite version is TuxKey9-1, I have played with head size, eye size and tons of other proportions and this I think is the best solution. It looks a little cross-eyed, but I printed this version out at actual size and you don't notice it.

Also, TuxKey4 is my favorite if we are just talking about a 1.25 width key.

Don't give up right now!

You are so close to the final solution!!!

Just the eyes from version 4 and we are done!!!!

[size=12]PLEASE!!![/size]

7bit · « **Reply #87 on:** Sun, 03 April 2011, 12:00:21 »

Quote from: 7bit;323705

Don't give up right now!

You are so close to the final solution!!!

Just the eyes from version 4 and we are done!!!!

[size=12]PLEASE!!![/size]

OK, then I've got to do it myself:

Done!

mtl · « **Reply #88 on:** Sun, 03 April 2011, 12:02:54 »

Quote from: 7bit;323794

Done!

Yay!

Will this be used for the 1.0 key, 1.25 key, or both?

7bit · « **Reply #89 on:** Sun, 03 April 2011, 12:05:03 »

Quote from: mtl;323795

Yay!

Will this be used for the 1.0 key, 1.25 key, or both?

I think for both.

I hope they don't complain about the eyes. Well, we will see.

In the worst case, the eyes must be enlarged a bit.

NimbleRabit · « **Reply #90 on:** Sun, 03 April 2011, 15:15:11 »

Quote from: ripster;323808

Stoner Tux FTW!

Hey hey, it looks awesome.

7bit · « **Reply #91 on:** Mon, 04 April 2011, 13:34:15 »

Quote from: ripster;323996

I'm just saying bigger eyes would be better.

Larger eyes == larger head.

I will give it a try ...

wuzle · « **Reply #92 on:** Tue, 05 April 2011, 10:33:08 »

I still like the white on black tux. Maybe for Round 4:

LINUXGHOST

cgoldberg · « **Reply #93 on:** Tue, 05 April 2011, 10:57:48 »

wuzle.
i like the LINUXGHOST too. especially if it was in a black circle on a white or yellow key.
i'd get some if available in round 4.

HaveANiceDay · « **Reply #94 on:** Tue, 05 April 2011, 11:20:38 »

Oh you guys. Innocently prancing around, thinking round 3 will ever end.

7bit · « **Reply #95 on:** Tue, 05 April 2011, 12:31:56 »

Quote from: HaveANiceDay;325022

Oh you guys. Innocently prancing around, thinking round 3 will ever end.

In fact we just do an intermediate shipping and continue with the 2nd half of keys right away ...

Here is what I will send to SP now:

There will be a tux on a white key in Round 4. And if you like, the ghost tux as well ...

wuzle · « **Reply #96 on:** Tue, 05 April 2011, 14:45:35 »

Quote from: cgoldberg;325000

wuzle.
i like the LINUXGHOST too. especially if it was in a black circle on a white or yellow key.
i'd get some if available in round 4.

The problem with putting it in a circle is that you have to make the head bigger and the eyes smaller like the current version (7bit's version above). ie, for doubleshots, the key part (black in LINUXGHOST) must be at least 0.5mm, and the doubleshot part (white in LINUXGHOST) must be 0.2mm. So with LINUXGHOST it works out better because you are using the smaller dimension for a lot of the intricate parts of the shape. When you put it in a circle, this is reversed and you lose some of the detail.

7bit · « **Reply #97 on:** Tue, 05 April 2011, 14:53:36 »

Quote from: wuzle;325169

The problem with putting it in a circle is that you have to make the head bigger and the eyes smaller like the current version (7bit's version above). ie, for doubleshots, the key part (black in LINUXGHOST) must be at least 0.5mm, and the doubleshot part (white in LINUXGHOST) must be 0.2mm. So with LINUXGHOST it works out better because you are using the smaller dimension for a lot of the intricate parts of the shape. When you put it in a circle, this is reversed and you lose some of the detail.

Yes, but the Tux looks strange when it has not the correct color. It would be better to put it onto a white key.

gilgam · « **Reply #98 on:** Tue, 05 April 2011, 16:45:11 »

I like the linuxghost better than the circled one ...

He's cute sure ;-)

vhaarr · « **Reply #99 on:** Tue, 05 April 2011, 17:41:13 »

Quote from: 7bit;325069

There will be a tux on a white key in Round 4. And if you like, the ghost tux as well ...

Oooh I want a few of those! Also a Tux escape key

You know what would be awesome? Keys for popular websites like Phoronix, Slashdot, Reddit, [strike]Facebook[/strike], etc.

Those might make me go back to using a full sized keyboard as a daily driver so I could put those on the F-row and bind them to open the specific websites.

Holy smokes that would ROCK!:dance::roll:

Then again for all I know you guys had that already in group buy 1 or 2 where I did not participate

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Author Topic: Doubleshot Linux Super Key (Read 32080 times)