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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated first prototype)
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 13:50:57 »
How much does the kit weigh?  :D

with PC weight ~1600g
with brass weight ~1800g

front end height is 18mm, 7 degree slope

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated first prototype)
« Reply #101 on: Fri, 12 October 2018, 21:33:15 »
possible to make the brass logo at the top teal/light blue as well? to be consistent with the dolch branding.

Cary said he will make multiple versions available, and he will share the 3D model so you can 3D print your own if needed.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated first prototype)
« Reply #102 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 17:58:53 »
Due to lack of significant interest in the hotswap PCB, this GB may not come with the hotswap option. Very affordable pre-soldering services will be provided, if needed.

I am still talking to Cary about this possibility of optional hotswap if the cost is manageable.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated first prototype)
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 22:54:57 »
Due to lack of significant interest in the hotswap PCB, this GB may not come with the hotswap option. Very affordable pre-soldering services will be provided, if needed.

I am still talking to Cary about this possibility of optional hotswap if the cost is manageable.

Thanks for following up on this. Looks like I'll have to re-join the Alt hi-pro GB on MD or consider experimenting with holtites. I nearly pulled the trigger on the Koyu then realized that it has split backspace. One of these days, a board that checks off all my requirements will show up.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated first prototype)
« Reply #104 on: Fri, 19 October 2018, 13:45:18 »
Due to lack of significant interest in the hotswap PCB, this GB may not come with the hotswap option. Very affordable pre-soldering services will be provided, if needed.

I am still talking to Cary about this possibility of optional hotswap if the cost is manageable.

Thanks for following up on this. Looks like I'll have to re-join the Alt hi-pro GB on MD or consider experimenting with holtites. I nearly pulled the trigger on the Koyu then realized that it has split backspace. One of these days, a board that checks off all my requirements will show up.

Thanks! Indeed. Personally I am fine with either Hotswap or not, but the opinions are pretty polarized.
Hope you find the ideal keyboard!

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated first prototype)
« Reply #105 on: Fri, 19 October 2018, 13:52:05 »
I really like the look of this keyboard, is there a price estimation and a GB date yet ? I may have to sell some stuff if it's sooner than early next year D:

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated first prototype)
« Reply #106 on: Sun, 21 October 2018, 22:41:43 »
I really like the look of this keyboard, is there a price estimation and a GB date yet ? I may have to sell some stuff if it's sooner than early next year D:

Hello, there is no final pricing. I checked with Cary, he said the kit with PC weight will be about $350. Extras such as the brass weight will cost a bit more.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated first prototype)
« Reply #107 on: Sun, 28 October 2018, 13:35:25 »
Split backspace support?

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated first prototype)
« Reply #108 on: Fri, 09 November 2018, 19:52:32 »
Coming soon!

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated first prototype)
« Reply #109 on: Wed, 21 November 2018, 19:40:27 »
Split backspace support?


Sorry this does not have split backspace


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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated first prototype)
« Reply #110 on: Wed, 21 November 2018, 21:32:29 »
Some more prorotypes:

207565-0

207567-1

207571-2

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (updated second prototype)
« Reply #111 on: Wed, 21 November 2018, 21:57:54 »
Some more prorotypes:

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Are there any changes from the black to white prototype other than the color?
If so, what are the changes?

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #112 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 11:29:54 »
GB coming soon.
5th prototype done.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #113 on: Fri, 07 December 2018, 11:29:16 »
5 prototypes

208526-0

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #114 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 22:06:34 »
5 prototypes

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Looks great! Glad to see the progress through multiple iterations.


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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #115 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 02:53:44 »
does this have an integrated plate?
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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #116 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 11:52:17 »
Some fine details of the craftsmanship, pls zoom in the picture to view

208625-0

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #117 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 11:53:30 »
does this have an integrated plate?

Yes this will have 4mm integrated plate and thick bottom+ weight

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #118 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 11:57:05 »
I wish there was an option with separate plate. I need some flex :(

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #119 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 13:08:16 »
I wish there was an option with separate plate. I need some flex :(

Maybe in the future if Cary wants to do more traditional designs. The thick integrated plate is super consistent in sound!

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #120 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 20:40:38 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #121 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 09:59:54 »
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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #122 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 18:59:12 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #123 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 18:59:16 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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This is really too bad. I asked for it during Doro67's GB too. Somehow the hardcores need soldering to feel complete I guess. The 4mm integrated plate is going to dictate the feel anyway, soldered or hotswap. But it's a huge pain to try different switches, or even to swap springs...

Can we at least have some info on compatibility on hottie/millmax sockets?

I am buying it anyway of course. :)

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #124 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 22:24:29 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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This is really too bad. I asked for it during Doro67's GB too. Somehow the hardcores need soldering to feel complete I guess. The 4mm integrated plate is going to dictate the feel anyway, soldered or hotswap. But it's a huge pain to try different switches, or even to swap springs...

Can we at least have some info on compatibility on hottie/millmax sockets?

I am buying it anyway of course. :)

Thanks!

I will receive the final prototype soon, and will provide some feedback on the feels for the 4mm plate with Holy Pandas.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #125 on: Thu, 20 December 2018, 00:05:32 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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This is really too bad. I asked for it during Doro67's GB too. Somehow the hardcores need soldering to feel complete I guess. The 4mm integrated plate is going to dictate the feel anyway, soldered or hotswap. But it's a huge pain to try different switches, or even to swap springs...

Can we at least have some info on compatibility on hottie/millmax sockets?

I am buying it anyway of course. :)

Thanks!

I will receive the final prototype soon, and will provide some feedback on the feels for the 4mm plate with Holy Pandas.

You're the man as always!  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #126 on: Thu, 20 December 2018, 08:25:16 »
I have some suggestions based on the Alf DC60 which is a really good case. I am not sure I will buy this Dolch case because I have spent a lot on keyboard stuff this year, but here are some opinions anyway (please take all of my suggestions as constructive for improvement or discussion):

- If there are edges, a very small round/chamfer may be an improvement, especially on the top of the case or where you have 90 degree angles. If you drag a paper towel across the top of the case to clean it, it should probably not have edges or corners sharp enough to tear the paper towel. Some of the edges on the DC60 are practically knife-edge sharp, and you have to be careful handling it.

- A satin black anodizing may be an improvement over matte in terms of feel/comfort - a good example of anodizing can be found on the cheaper low profile and hipro cases from aliexpress - the anodizing creates a smooth surface that is pleasing to the touch. Examples of "smooth" anodizing can be found on the YMDK or Doyu studio cases. They are probably using satin and not full matte. I am not advocating for gloss, as gloss isn't preferred by me or anyone else, especially gloss black which is terrible.

- the badge in its current iteration isn't very readable - it might be improved by sandblasting the tooling marks off or revision of the badge - it doesn't seem to "go with" the design right now. It is not bad, but it could possibly be improved. One improvement could be to create the badge as a separate piece of different color anodized aluminum - for example a silver or dark gray anodize to go w/ the black case.

Edit (one more based on the DC60 GB):
- on my dc60 PCB, the usb mini connector was crushed. I soldered a new one on and now it works, but many people would not be able to do this. Please protect the connector part of the pcb more in shipping. It may get damaged if the weight of the case hits it.
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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #127 on: Thu, 20 December 2018, 18:59:56 »
I have some suggestions based on the Alf DC60 which is a really good case. I am not sure I will buy this Dolch case because I have spent a lot on keyboard stuff this year, but here are some opinions anyway (please take all of my suggestions as constructive for improvement or discussion):

- If there are edges, a very small round/chamfer may be an improvement, especially on the top of the case or where you have 90 degree angles. If you drag a paper towel across the top of the case to clean it, it should probably not have edges or corners sharp enough to tear the paper towel. Some of the edges on the DC60 are practically knife-edge sharp, and you have to be careful handling it.

- A satin black anodizing may be an improvement over matte in terms of feel/comfort - a good example of anodizing can be found on the cheaper low profile and hipro cases from aliexpress - the anodizing creates a smooth surface that is pleasing to the touch. Examples of "smooth" anodizing can be found on the YMDK or Doyu studio cases. They are probably using satin and not full matte. I am not advocating for gloss, as gloss isn't preferred by me or anyone else, especially gloss black which is terrible.

- the badge in its current iteration isn't very readable - it might be improved by sandblasting the tooling marks off or revision of the badge - it doesn't seem to "go with" the design right now. It is not bad, but it could possibly be improved. One improvement could be to create the badge as a separate piece of different color anodized aluminum - for example a silver or dark gray anodize to go w/ the black case.

Edit (one more based on the DC60 GB):
- on my dc60 PCB, the usb mini connector was crushed. I soldered a new one on and now it works, but many people would not be able to do this. Please protect the connector part of the pcb more in shipping. It may get damaged if the weight of the case hits it.

Thanks for the feedback!

The DC60 is a lower end ALF line and DolchCR is top line :) I’m sure the quality will be much higher :)

I will update and compare with DC60 and some other top keyboards next week

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #128 on: Thu, 20 December 2018, 20:25:54 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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This is really too bad. I asked for it during Doro67's GB too. Somehow the hardcores need soldering to feel complete I guess. The 4mm integrated plate is going to dictate the feel anyway, soldered or hotswap. But it's a huge pain to try different switches, or even to swap springs...

Can we at least have some info on compatibility on hottie/millmax sockets?

I am buying it anyway of course. :)

Yeah, same sentiments here. I really would like a 65% or a 75% (preferred) end-game board with south facing hot swap. I understand that integrated plate + hot swap is really hard to do, so I would gladly trade integrated plate for hot swap. Koyu came close, but the split back space killed it for me. I was thinking about holtite/millmax, but I also read that they are difficult to install and reliability is a crap shoot, so I gave up on it. It looks like KBD 67 v2 has everything i'm looking for, but at the low-end of end-game. Might still get it though. Maybe I'll treat myself in January.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #129 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 21:43:33 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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This is really too bad. I asked for it during Doro67's GB too. Somehow the hardcores need soldering to feel complete I guess. The 4mm integrated plate is going to dictate the feel anyway, soldered or hotswap. But it's a huge pain to try different switches, or even to swap springs...

Can we at least have some info on compatibility on hottie/millmax sockets?

I am buying it anyway of course. :)

Yeah, same sentiments here. I really would like a 65% or a 75% (preferred) end-game board with south facing hot swap. I understand that integrated plate + hot swap is really hard to do, so I would gladly trade integrated plate for hot swap. Koyu came close, but the split back space killed it for me. I was thinking about holtite/millmax, but I also read that they are difficult to install and reliability is a crap shoot, so I gave up on it. It looks like KBD 67 v2 has everything i'm looking for, but at the low-end of end-game. Might still get it though. Maybe I'll treat myself in January.

Soldered Holy Panda (or Gsus) + Dolch.CR = problem solved :)

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #130 on: Sat, 22 December 2018, 08:53:20 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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This is really too bad. I asked for it during Doro67's GB too. Somehow the hardcores need soldering to feel complete I guess. The 4mm integrated plate is going to dictate the feel anyway, soldered or hotswap. But it's a huge pain to try different switches, or even to swap springs...

Can we at least have some info on compatibility on hottie/millmax sockets?

I am buying it anyway of course. :)

Yeah, same sentiments here. I really would like a 65% or a 75% (preferred) end-game board with south facing hot swap. I understand that integrated plate + hot swap is really hard to do, so I would gladly trade integrated plate for hot swap. Koyu came close, but the split back space killed it for me. I was thinking about holtite/millmax, but I also read that they are difficult to install and reliability is a crap shoot, so I gave up on it. It looks like KBD 67 v2 has everything i'm looking for, but at the low-end of end-game. Might still get it though. Maybe I'll treat myself in January.

Soldered Holy Panda (or Gsus) + Dolch.CR = problem solved :)
How does this, as pleasant as it will likely be, solve the requirement of South facing hot swap? =P

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #131 on: Sat, 22 December 2018, 18:03:32 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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This is really too bad. I asked for it during Doro67's GB too. Somehow the hardcores need soldering to feel complete I guess. The 4mm integrated plate is going to dictate the feel anyway, soldered or hotswap. But it's a huge pain to try different switches, or even to swap springs...

Can we at least have some info on compatibility on hottie/millmax sockets?

I am buying it anyway of course. :)

Yeah, same sentiments here. I really would like a 65% or a 75% (preferred) end-game board with south facing hot swap. I understand that integrated plate + hot swap is really hard to do, so I would gladly trade integrated plate for hot swap. Koyu came close, but the split back space killed it for me. I was thinking about holtite/millmax, but I also read that they are difficult to install and reliability is a crap shoot, so I gave up on it. It looks like KBD 67 v2 has everything i'm looking for, but at the low-end of end-game. Might still get it though. Maybe I'll treat myself in January.

Soldered Holy Panda (or Gsus) + Dolch.CR = problem solved :)
How does this, as pleasant as it will likely be, solve the requirement of South facing hot swap? =P

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon, hotswap option added)
« Reply #132 on: Mon, 24 December 2018, 20:49:21 »

Update: with many people contacting me making a case for an optional hotswap pcb, Cary is reconsidering making hotswap an upgrade option for users who are interested.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon)
« Reply #133 on: Tue, 25 December 2018, 01:33:46 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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This is really too bad. I asked for it during Doro67's GB too. Somehow the hardcores need soldering to feel complete I guess. The 4mm integrated plate is going to dictate the feel anyway, soldered or hotswap. But it's a huge pain to try different switches, or even to swap springs...

Can we at least have some info on compatibility on hottie/millmax sockets?

I am buying it anyway of course. :)

Yeah, same sentiments here. I really would like a 65% or a 75% (preferred) end-game board with south facing hot swap. I understand that integrated plate + hot swap is really hard to do, so I would gladly trade integrated plate for hot swap. Koyu came close, but the split back space killed it for me. I was thinking about holtite/millmax, but I also read that they are difficult to install and reliability is a crap shoot, so I gave up on it. It looks like KBD 67 v2 has everything i'm looking for, but at the low-end of end-game. Might still get it though. Maybe I'll treat myself in January.

I talked to Cary to make a strong case for those who are interested in hotswap, and he listened and agreed to provide an optional hotswap PCB

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon, hotswap option added)
« Reply #134 on: Tue, 25 December 2018, 15:35:29 »
Dagnabit! I gotta figure out how to block any threads with oldcat in them. Every comment is making me realize how much I'm going to spend in 2019.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon, hotswap option added)
« Reply #135 on: Tue, 25 December 2018, 16:12:46 »
You know, I think I might get one of these. If it really is gonna be <$400 I reckon I'm sold.


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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon, hotswap option added)
« Reply #137 on: Tue, 25 December 2018, 21:39:25 »
IMO that badge needs more work.

Yeah, it is gold-plated already but you can still see some minor machine cuts, plus it gets fingerprints easily. The base kit will come with an Aluminum Badge which should not have this issue. And final production version Gold-plated Brass Badge will also be improved - Cary already found solutions to make better-looking ones. And 3D design file for the badge will be released so users can 3D print PC or acrylic ones

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon, hotswap option added)
« Reply #138 on: Tue, 25 December 2018, 22:57:34 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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This is really too bad. I asked for it during Doro67's GB too. Somehow the hardcores need soldering to feel complete I guess. The 4mm integrated plate is going to dictate the feel anyway, soldered or hotswap. But it's a huge pain to try different switches, or even to swap springs...

Can we at least have some info on compatibility on hottie/millmax sockets?

I am buying it anyway of course. :)

Yeah, same sentiments here. I really would like a 65% or a 75% (preferred) end-game board with south facing hot swap. I understand that integrated plate + hot swap is really hard to do, so I would gladly trade integrated plate for hot swap. Koyu came close, but the split back space killed it for me. I was thinking about holtite/millmax, but I also read that they are difficult to install and reliability is a crap shoot, so I gave up on it. It looks like KBD 67 v2 has everything i'm looking for, but at the low-end of end-game. Might still get it though. Maybe I'll treat myself in January.

I talked to Cary to make a strong case for those who are interested in hotswap, and he listened and agreed to provide an optional hotswap PCB
This is a pleasant surprise. Will we get additional info on the hot swap PCB? Features I'm interested in are:
- South-facing hot swap
- smd led
- usb-c
- standard layout


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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon, hotswap option added)
« Reply #139 on: Wed, 26 December 2018, 12:42:55 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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This is really too bad. I asked for it during Doro67's GB too. Somehow the hardcores need soldering to feel complete I guess. The 4mm integrated plate is going to dictate the feel anyway, soldered or hotswap. But it's a huge pain to try different switches, or even to swap springs...

Can we at least have some info on compatibility on hottie/millmax sockets?

I am buying it anyway of course. :)

Yeah, same sentiments here. I really would like a 65% or a 75% (preferred) end-game board with south facing hot swap. I understand that integrated plate + hot swap is really hard to do, so I would gladly trade integrated plate for hot swap. Koyu came close, but the split back space killed it for me. I was thinking about holtite/millmax, but I also read that they are difficult to install and reliability is a crap shoot, so I gave up on it. It looks like KBD 67 v2 has everything i'm looking for, but at the low-end of end-game. Might still get it though. Maybe I'll treat myself in January.

I talked to Cary to make a strong case for those who are interested in hotswap, and he listened and agreed to provide an optional hotswap PCB
This is a pleasant surprise. Will we get additional info on the hot swap PCB? Features I'm interested in are:
- South-facing hot swap
- smd led
- usb-c
- standard layout


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Can confirm south-facing, usb-c, standard layout (with either WK or WKL)
Cary is checking SMD LED.
GB post pending approval :)

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Re: [IC] ALF x Cary — 65% Dolch.CR (gb coming soon, hotswap option added)
« Reply #140 on: Wed, 26 December 2018, 12:43:59 »
is hot swap still possible with an integrated plate?
Hot swap was shot down earlier in the thread.

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This is really too bad. I asked for it during Doro67's GB too. Somehow the hardcores need soldering to feel complete I guess. The 4mm integrated plate is going to dictate the feel anyway, soldered or hotswap. But it's a huge pain to try different switches, or even to swap springs...

Can we at least have some info on compatibility on hottie/millmax sockets?

I am buying it anyway of course. :)

Yeah, same sentiments here. I really would like a 65% or a 75% (preferred) end-game board with south facing hot swap. I understand that integrated plate + hot swap is really hard to do, so I would gladly trade integrated plate for hot swap. Koyu came close, but the split back space killed it for me. I was thinking about holtite/millmax, but I also read that they are difficult to install and reliability is a crap shoot, so I gave up on it. It looks like KBD 67 v2 has everything i'm looking for, but at the low-end of end-game. Might still get it though. Maybe I'll treat myself in January.

I talked to Cary to make a strong case for those who are interested in hotswap, and he listened and agreed to provide an optional hotswap PCB
This is a pleasant surprise. Will we get additional info on the hot swap PCB? Features I'm interested in are:
- South-facing hot swap
- smd led
- usb-c
- standard layout


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Here are the Layout Options:

Regular PCB (compatible):


Hotswap PCB (choose either WK or WKL shown below):

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