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Remember windows ? What happened to those.. hahahahaha
Gee, why didn't I think of that? Oh wait, I did. It still gets 80 degrees inside the apartment. But you know, it's not like either of us take medications that interfere with the body's ability to regulate temperature, or that one of us has a medical disorder that makes us intolerant to heat....
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Remember windows ? What happened to those.. hahahahaha
Gee, why didn't I think of that? Oh wait, I did. It still gets 80 degrees inside the apartment. But you know, it's not like either of us take medications that interfere with the body's ability to regulate temperature, or that one of us has a medical disorder that makes us intolerant to heat....
I'm guessing tp4's response will be something about how if you ate all veggies you wouldn't have to take medications and therefore you wouldn't have this problem...
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Remember windows ? What happened to those.. hahahahaha
Gee, why didn't I think of that? Oh wait, I did. It still gets 80 degrees inside the apartment. But you know, it's not like either of us take medications that interfere with the body's ability to regulate temperature, or that one of us has a medical disorder that makes us intolerant to heat....
Fat consumption is vital to human survival. You can live without carbohydrates though.
If it's diabetes you're talking about.. again, they've cured it. I told you to look it up last time, and it's apparent you haven't
If it's diabetes you're talking about.. again, they've cured it. I told you to look it up last time, and it's apparent you haven't
1. I don't give a **** about snake oil cures. I've told you this before and you will not change my mind. Peddle it to someone else because I am not that gullible.
2. It's not my diabetes, it's the Depakote and Geodon I take for my schizoaffective disorder. Try to tell me veggies can cure that and I'll outright block you.
If it's diabetes you're talking about.. again, they've cured it. I told you to look it up last time, and it's apparent you haven't
1. I don't give a **** about snake oil cures. I've told you this before and you will not change my mind. Peddle it to someone else because I am not that gullible.
2. It's not my diabetes, it's the Depakote and Geodon I take for my schizoaffective disorder. Try to tell me veggies can cure that and I'll outright block you.
Yes, Going plant based can help that too.
You need to understand that the DSM is very imprecise.
The majority of diagnosed disorders are not isolate problems, they're actually only classes of symptoms.
That is to say, they don't actually know what's wrong with you, but THEY DO have a drug to treat symptoms.
More and more, we're finding out that high consumption of animal products leads to clogging of microvasculature .
WHERE it clogs is random. therefore, the psychopathology which result could be schizoaffective, bipolar, Anxiety, depression , etc..
IF you are a diabetic, AND you have this brain disorder, it is very likely that the two are related, as they share the same root cause.
Hi, I'm relatively new here, and first time in this thread...
Is the shared "same root cause" the "condition" of being alive? Only cure for that condition is dying.
Is it allowed to say tp4tissue is "What's bothering you(me)"? (I'm assuming that statement is also a repost, but I didn't bother checking the 490+ pages of this thread.)
I've just returned from Reddit, where Monsanto shills were doing their PR stunts as usual, and now this… O_o
I've just returned from Reddit, where Monsanto shills were doing their PR stunts as usual, and now this… O_o
Probably shouldn't eat their soybeans..
But it's definitely not AS dangerous as the Anti-GMO crowd makes it out to be.
Because the high fats content of the standard western diet, it interferes and causes inflammation in our skin's microvasculature.
The consequence of the ordeal is a dramatic reduction in the even-ness, throughput and efficiency of our internal evaporative cooling system.
The fats enter all of the body's cells, not only fat cells themselves which are more apparent.. You might've heard of this as skinny fat.
I've just returned from Reddit, where Monsanto shills were doing their PR stunts as usual, and now this… O_o
Probably shouldn't eat their soybeans..
But it's definitely not AS dangerous as the Anti-GMO crowd makes it out to be.
I'm surprised you're on one hand defending GMO's while on the other advocating for an all veggie diet to cure issues with adapting to heat.
On that topic by the way if you're struggling with heat one thing I've found to help is to get a spray bottle and spray yourself with water lightly. That water will then evaporate cooling you without having to sweat.QuoteBecause the high fats content of the standard western diet, it interferes and causes inflammation in our skin's microvasculature.
The consequence of the ordeal is a dramatic reduction in the even-ness, throughput and efficiency of our internal evaporative cooling system.
The fats enter all of the body's cells, not only fat cells themselves which are more apparent.. You might've heard of this as skinny fat.
Do you have any source for this?
Getting alot of mod-pressure to limit Veggie Posts.. hahahahaha
Getting alot of mod-pressure to limit Veggie Posts.. hahahahaha
+1
Fat consumption is vital, and the science supports it. You can be a fat-denier(?) just like the climate change deniers or the anti-vaxxers but that doesn't make you correct. You can live your entire life without carbs, fat you can't. Fats can be consumed with a vegan diet anyways (it's just much more difficult).
From what I understand, fat consumption can be safely avoided for most people by taking vitamin supplements. While eliminating carbs would require proper glucose and fiber supplementation as well as the awareness that a high protein diet can lead to kidney damage.
They're both considered essential nutrients anyway, and should maybe be limited but not completely removed from a diet.
Thanks for inspiring me to do a little research guys
Probably a smart move to move on from the topic.
Saying you can prevent heart disease (the #1 cause of death in the US) will probably cause a heated argument. You don't seem very open to being wrong/changing your mind so there's not much point in discussing it.
Someone should just change Off Topic to l33t v394n m0d3
Dearest tp4, I'm seriously regretting starting you on this journey, as the last thing I intended was for you to go through every "what not to do if you want to share information on a controversial topic" debate mistake. Maybe I should have instead suggested some reading on presenting information in a way that doesn't antagonize everyone.
TBH, your messages would look less shouty if they weren't max font size :P But I could care less about this discussion, just needed to say that.
You made a convincing point about not wanting to mindlessly shush any discussion of plant based alternatives.
However, that's not what is happening. I'm only asking you be a bit more civil/understanding that you're speaking to real humans with their own set of knowledge/biases/opinions that they hold strongly to as you do.
To use your own example no one changes the culture of promoting gay rights or fighting rape culture by yelling at people. It's all about loving/being empathetic to others and understanding.
More and more, we're finding out that high consumption of animal products leads to clogging of microvasculature .
WHERE it clogs is random. therefore, the psychopathology which result could be schizoaffective, bipolar, Anxiety, depression , etc..
In what way have I not been civil...
...You have 70 posts, and you've been here 5 minutes. In what capacity are you qualified to purport that I have been uncouth.
QuoteMore and more, we're finding out that high consumption of animal products leads to clogging of microvasculature .
WHERE it clogs is random. therefore, the psychopathology which result could be schizoaffective, bipolar, Anxiety, depression , etc..
I'd love to hear more about where you get this idea from. This is a huge claim to make citing the use of animal products as potential causes of all major mental disorders? I have a hard time believing you're making the claim in ernest but if you are why haven't you written any kind of scientific paper/meta study arguing it?
If you could provide any solid evidence of an overall cause of mental disorders the scientific community would be ecstatic.
From what I understand, fat consumption can be safely avoided for most people by taking vitamin supplements. While eliminating carbs would require proper glucose and fiber supplementation as well as the awareness that a high protein diet can lead to kidney damage.
They're both considered essential nutrients anyway, and should maybe be limited but not completely removed from a diet.
Thanks for inspiring me to do a little research guys
In what way have I not been civil...
...You have 70 posts, and you've been here 5 minutes. In what capacity are you qualified to purport that I have been uncouth.
I think mentioning his lower post count as reason for why hes "unqualified" to have an opinion on how you are acting is is pretty much the definition of uncouth. :))
From what I understand, fat consumption can be safely avoided for most people by taking vitamin supplements. While eliminating carbs would require proper glucose and fiber supplementation as well as the awareness that a high protein diet can lead to kidney damage.
They're both considered essential nutrients anyway, and should maybe be limited but not completely removed from a diet.
Thanks for inspiring me to do a little research guys
Fats can be converted to glucose by the body thus making carbs unnecessary. Fiber is considered a neutral carb since your body doesn't digest it. It might make your trips to the bathroom more painful, but you CAN do it. Not that I suggest completely eliminating carbs, but you don't need many in your diet to live a healthy life.
That's a cohesive list of sources correlating Vascular plaque build up/artery blockage with AD which isn't what I was disputing. This is a known/documented phenomenon (though it's certailny not conclusive yet). I'm disputing the connection between cranial vascular problems and eating animal fats.
I'm not incorrect. In fact, there are plenty of sources stating as such. Here's the first one I found on Google.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/mike-sheridan/carbohydrates-and-energy_b_6823546.html
And AGAIN, I am not suggesting that carbs are eliminated completely, but it is POSSIBLE.
I should say btw you're right about trying to limit fats for helping with neurological conditions. My mother has helped her Multiple sclerosis significantly by going on a very agressive low fat diet (significantly much lower than your 10% fat suggestion).
Blaise170 is incorrect.
The fact that humans can consume and utilize fat as Fuel is not in dispute.
I should say btw you're right about trying to limit fats for helping with neurological conditions. My mother has helped her Multiple sclerosis significantly by going on a very agressive low fat diet (significantly much lower than your 10% fat suggestion).
I am not saying this just because you've agreed with me, but I'm starting to like you more..
Yes, removing fats from consumption is critical to improving neurological disorders..
You dodged the whole dispute again.
First you sayQuoteBlaise170 is incorrect.
then you get called out/proven to be incorrect now you sayQuoteThe fact that humans can consume and utilize fat as Fuel is not in dispute.
With that observation i'm going to have to call this discussion quits. I wish you nothing but the best health
Yet you called his statement that "Fats can be converted to glucose by the body thus making carbs unnecessary" incorrect.
How is that a glaring inconsistency?
Fair I don't see how you would think that's the main point of his comment when it obviously wasn't. But alright.
I actually agree with you there again. I think people should engage actively in experimenting what works best for their health.
Personally, I ****ing love cheese and meat way way too much to stop eating it. Oh and poke. And sushi. And tacos.
I've personally seen many people over the years which actually lead a much healthier (and athletic) life living on a high fat and low carb diet (known as ketogenic). I never even stated that fats were preferred by the body either, by the way, that was an assumption you made. You can even eat high fat and low carb while on a 100% veggie diet (tofu, avocados, nuts, to name a few)! In fact, a limited carb diet is preferable for those with certain conditions such as diabetes since it prevents spikes in blood glucose.
Whoa, what happened - this thread got split off into it's own tp4tissue show? :popcorn:
Nutrition isn't my thing so I won't keep going on about it but I do think it's funny that you seem to think that nature has perfect control over limiting heart disease it's just those pesky humans who ruin it for themselves eating meat ... the food we evolved to eat .... wait a second.
It finally happened. The genesis cells that make up the What's bothering you thread split to create two super threads.
Tp has literally split the atom.
I don't feel like continuing this conversation any further, however... Anthropology is something I'm actually well versed in having almost minored in it and your statement that we are sucessful monkeys is completely wrong. We are not all that similar to monkeys, we are much closer to the apes. In any case, homo split off from our close ancestors ages ago after the Australopithecines (the most likely direct ancestor of humans) split from the chimpanzees to form Hominini. Monkeys had a common primate ancestor with humans, but that is much farther up the evolutionary tree and would be like saying we are successful lemurs (also a primate).
I don't feel like continuing this conversation any further, however... Anthropology is something I'm actually well versed in having almost minored in it and your statement that we are sucessful monkeys is completely wrong. We are not all that similar to monkeys, we are much closer to the apes. In any case, homo split off from our close ancestors ages ago after the Australopithecines (the most likely direct ancestor of humans) split from the chimpanzees to form Hominini. Monkeys had a common primate ancestor with humans, but that is much farther up the evolutionary tree and would be like saying we are successful lemurs (also a primate).
that being said, I share the facial expression of many lemurs whenever I stumble into a tp4 threadShow Image(https://lemur.duke.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/03903_DMH0552NHE-2-Lc-group-2006-infants.jpg)
I'm interested to know what book photoelectric recd you, tp.
I'm interested to know what book photoelectric recd you, tp.
But if we came from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys around?We came from the 'other' monkeys.
But if we came from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys around?We came from the 'other' monkeys.
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But if we came from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys around?I never understood this complaint.
But if we came from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys around?I never understood this complaint.
You came from your parents, are they still around?
But if we came from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys around?I never understood this complaint.
You came from your parents, are they still around?
It comes from a deliberate misunderstanding of evolution, portraying it as some sort of spontaneous morphing of one animal type into the other. It's a strawman, nothing to get engaged with.
Nobody reads walls of text.
In most cases evolution is purposefully misconstrued to show that we can't possibly have evolved from monkeys, but that's not an argument from the "secular" community nor has it ever been an argument. Our ancestral cousins in the evolutionary tree evolved from a monkey-like creature such as Plesiadapis, but this creature is far different than any monkeys today, bearing a resemblance much closer to rodents. Even if you manage to convince someone that this is the case, their mind will typically completely shut down once you start trying to explain that the proto-primates also had common ancestors with species even less similar to us, such as Purgatorius. Eventually you get to chemical evolution (abiogenesis), the idea that life came from the random genesis of amino acids from compounds present in the early Earth's atmosphere which later became RNA-strands. These strands of RNA then started the synthesis of the earliest forms of life. The process of abiogenesis was likely started by biological matter introduced from another body in space via meteorites.
In most cases evolution is purposefully misconstrued to show that we can't possibly have evolved from monkeys, but that's not an argument from the "secular" community nor has it ever been an argument. Our ancestral cousins in the evolutionary tree evolved from a monkey-like creature such as Plesiadapis, but this creature is far different than any monkeys today, bearing a resemblance much closer to rodents. Even if you manage to convince someone that this is the case, their mind will typically completely shut down once you start trying to explain that the proto-primates also had common ancestors with species even less similar to us, such as Purgatorius. Eventually you get to chemical evolution (abiogenesis), the idea that life came from the random genesis of amino acids from compounds present in the early Earth's atmosphere which later became RNA-strands. These strands of RNA then started the synthesis of the earliest forms of life. The process of abiogenesis was likely started by biological matter introduced from another body in space via meteorites.
You should watch that episode of futurama A clockwork origin..
Having a Creator does not fundamentally conflict with Evolution..
It's certainly possible there is a god or god like conscious creator..
Yet there are people who dispute it.
We can't really rule it out, because we don't have evidence.
It's also possible that even if such evidence exist, our cognitive capacity may never be capable of understanding it.
These possible scenarios exist, therefore, we lump them all together call it god for now..
That's fine.. People who just pull rope are allowed to think there is a god, and he did the things in his certain way..
Purgatorius,abiogenesis, Plesiadapis, mitochondria, rna... All good stuff, But again, NO EVIDENCE for the order of events YET..
It MAY have happened that way,
OR
It May be that we live in the matrix, and we're actually all brains in a jar.. and the Machine created us, and all our consciousnesses are actually residual processes left over after running their fusion focus cycles..
Ahhh, and this where analogies like the Flying Spagetti Monster and Russell's Teapot come into play. While it's theoretically possible for a creator to exist, the burden of proof falls on the person making the extraordinary claim to prove he/she/it exists, not the other way around. Until that case is proven, it's just a claim that can never be substantiated and therefore, is not worth entertaining imo.
It's completely possible that evolution was guided by an intelligent being and is commonly known as theistic evolution. There's a complete range of beliefs based on how secular or anti-science you want to be. I tend to fall somewhere between theistic and atheistic evolution.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tjTsjsT.gif)
Ahhh, and this where analogies like the Flying Spagetti Monster and Russell's Teapot come into play. While it's theoretically possible for a creator to exist, the burden of proof falls on the person making the extraordinary claim to prove he/she/it exists, not the other way around. Until that case is proven, it's just a claim that can never be substantiated and therefore, is not worth entertaining imo.
We have finite capacity to reason and comprehend.. So typically , we go with the firm things and that of which is a hair out of our current capacity..
The notion of what is and is not of worth is flexible over time. We might not have the capacity today to comprehend -the Creator- we MIGHT in the future..
That in itself does not determine whether we should or should not..
If there's no food on the table, we shouldn't even be on Gekhak..
Because it's possible, we should record the possibility and hold it until a later date when it CAN be explored..
It's ON HOLD, fine, but to outright reject it is Myopic ..
It comes from a deliberate misunderstanding of evolution, portraying it as some sort of spontaneous morphing of one animal type into the other. It's a strawman, nothing to get engaged with.
It comes from a deliberate misunderstanding of evolution, portraying it as some sort of spontaneous morphing of one animal type into the other. It's a strawman, nothing to get engaged with.
I'm going to quote myself rather than TP's walls of text to keep the scrolling brief.
My point is specifically regarding those who are putting forward "so why are there still monkeys" as an argument against evolution, ie. assuming there has been some investigation into the subject. Those who do not know anything about evolution, and who are asking in good faith, do not count in my grouping.
It's a tough topic to discuss because religion is so closely wrapped up in the personal identities of people.
That's not really comparable though man we just don't agree with your thoughts on diet. We're not so personally invested in what we eat we take deep personal offence when you bring it up.
Food is not on the 4 banned first date topics. R(eligion) A(bortion) P(olitics) and E(conomics).
That gay couple make a really good point about organic monkey dildos.
I never thought about it like that.
That gay couple make a really good point about organic monkey dildos.
I never thought about it like that.
It's a good thing there are no SJWs on Gekhak, otherwise they'd come in here and be like, heyyy you're using homosexuality in a negative connotation.
Seems a bit weird you guys are both here talking about some "sjw" that doesn't exist. Strawmanning much?
Seems a bit weird you guys are both here talking about some "sjw" that doesn't exist. Strawmanning much?
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Are these SJWs like the people who got mad about the Christmas Starbucks cups and the people who are obsessed with safe places? As in, it's a tiny minority that everyone makes a huge deal out of but don't actually matter?
I don't eat low carb TP4
Your low carb is XXXXX..
Tp4 defines low carb as (Any %) < 80%
80, 10, 10.. That is the ideal macro-ratio. !
What should you reduce your total daily carbohydrate intake to? The average American diet now consists of 50-60% of calories from carbohydrates. Scientific studies suggest that you can greatly improve health if you reduce your carbohydrate intake to approximately 20-25% of your total daily caloric intake. This is equal to about 100-125 grams of carbohydrates per day for women and 125-150 grams per day for men.
First start by reducing the larger amounts of carbohydrates from your diet; start with the frequent servings of potatoes, rice and pasta and the sugar containing drinks. Replace these with more protein and low carbohydrate vegetables.
After a week or 2, count the grams of the remaining carbohydrates in your daily diets for a few days. You will quickly realize the high amount of carbohydrates you had been consuming on a regular basis.
Reducing your carbohydrate intake to 20-25% of your total caloric intake has a dramatic improvement in the diseases arising from insulin resistance as well as improving your neurological functioning. Your triglyceride and HDL cholesterol levels improve, your blood pressure will be greatly reduced and your blood sugar levels will normalize as your body’s response to insulin to improves.
Carbohydrate reduction has been calculated to have 6-8 times greater power of reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease (strokes and heart attacks) than do the statin medications that are commonly prescribed to lower LDL cholesterol levels. Why treat these conditions with potentially toxic medications when you can prevent and even reverse these conditions by simply reducing your carbohydrate intake.
QuoteWhat should you reduce your total daily carbohydrate intake to? The average American diet now consists of 50-60% of calories from carbohydrates. Scientific studies suggest that you can greatly improve health if you reduce your carbohydrate intake to approximately 20-25% of your total daily caloric intake. This is equal to about 100-125 grams of carbohydrates per day for women and 125-150 grams per day for men.
First start by reducing the larger amounts of carbohydrates from your diet; start with the frequent servings of potatoes, rice and pasta and the sugar containing drinks. Replace these with more protein and low carbohydrate vegetables.
After a week or 2, count the grams of the remaining carbohydrates in your daily diets for a few days. You will quickly realize the high amount of carbohydrates you had been consuming on a regular basis.
Reducing your carbohydrate intake to 20-25% of your total caloric intake has a dramatic improvement in the diseases arising from insulin resistance as well as improving your neurological functioning. Your triglyceride and HDL cholesterol levels improve, your blood pressure will be greatly reduced and your blood sugar levels will normalize as your body’s response to insulin to improves.
Carbohydrate reduction has been calculated to have 6-8 times greater power of reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease (strokes and heart attacks) than do the statin medications that are commonly prescribed to lower LDL cholesterol levels. Why treat these conditions with potentially toxic medications when you can prevent and even reverse these conditions by simply reducing your carbohydrate intake.
That above there is the PRIMARY set of mis-information generated by Big-Pharma to Continue Insulin disorder (Diabetes).
Remember diabetes is big business.
What they've done is bent the truth to sell more drugs.
Diabetes is caused by high consumption of fats.
When the fats get into your cells, the insulin does not work.
The more fats you eat, (animal fat or vegetable fat), the more insulin resistant you become.
Eventually it gets to a point where there's so much fat in your cells, your body does not produce enough insulin to get sugar into the cell.
Let's say you do follow a low carb plan..
Your insulin sensitivity will increase (at least initially, if you are diabetic/pre-diabetic) because you're eating less calories overall, and your pancreas function will improve somewhat as prior it was overworked.
However, you are still in the same insulin resisting state DUE to the Intramyocellular lipids. Fats in muscle cells.
The reason why this is terribly dangerous, is because we KNOW for certain that fat intake above the 15-20% threshold leads to Vascular damage.
So even if you follow a low carb diet, you are doing significant damage to your blood vessels and that endothelial damage directly thickens arterial plaque. Finally culminating in heart disease ontop of continued diabetes.
QuoteWhat should you reduce your total daily carbohydrate intake to? The average American diet now consists of 50-60% of calories from carbohydrates. Scientific studies suggest that you can greatly improve health if you reduce your carbohydrate intake to approximately 20-25% of your total daily caloric intake. This is equal to about 100-125 grams of carbohydrates per day for women and 125-150 grams per day for men.
First start by reducing the larger amounts of carbohydrates from your diet; start with the frequent servings of potatoes, rice and pasta and the sugar containing drinks. Replace these with more protein and low carbohydrate vegetables.
After a week or 2, count the grams of the remaining carbohydrates in your daily diets for a few days. You will quickly realize the high amount of carbohydrates you had been consuming on a regular basis.
Reducing your carbohydrate intake to 20-25% of your total caloric intake has a dramatic improvement in the diseases arising from insulin resistance as well as improving your neurological functioning. Your triglyceride and HDL cholesterol levels improve, your blood pressure will be greatly reduced and your blood sugar levels will normalize as your body’s response to insulin to improves.
Carbohydrate reduction has been calculated to have 6-8 times greater power of reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease (strokes and heart attacks) than do the statin medications that are commonly prescribed to lower LDL cholesterol levels. Why treat these conditions with potentially toxic medications when you can prevent and even reverse these conditions by simply reducing your carbohydrate intake.
That above there is the PRIMARY set of mis-information generated by Big-Pharma to Continue Insulin disorder (Diabetes).
Remember diabetes is big business.
What they've done is bent the truth to sell more drugs.
Diabetes is caused by high consumption of fats.
When the fats get into your cells, the insulin does not work.
The more fats you eat, (animal fat or vegetable fat), the more insulin resistant you become.
Eventually it gets to a point where there's so much fat in your cells, your body does not produce enough insulin to get sugar into the cell.
Let's say you do follow a low carb plan..
Your insulin sensitivity will increase (at least initially, if you are diabetic/pre-diabetic) because you're eating less calories overall, and your pancreas function will improve somewhat as prior it was overworked.
However, you are still in the same insulin resisting state DUE to the Intramyocellular lipids. Fats in muscle cells.
The reason why this is terribly dangerous, is because we KNOW for certain that fat intake above the 15-20% threshold leads to Vascular damage.
So even if you follow a low carb diet, you are doing significant damage to your blood vessels and that endothelial damage directly thickens arterial plaque. Finally culminating in heart disease ontop of continued diabetes.
What I posted is from a doctor who doesn't prescribe drugs. He prefers natural/alternative remedies (like lowering your intake of carbohydrates).
You're steering pretty close to anti-vaxx logic there tp4. And if you try to talk me into anti-vaxx, I'm just gonna block your ass because I deal with that **** enough IRL.
You're steering pretty close to anti-vaxx logic there tp4. And if you try to talk me into anti-vaxx, I'm just gonna block your ass because I deal with that **** enough IRL.
The rise in autism is quoted by Anti-Vaxx to be around 2200%, They've adjusted for detection rate due to new technology, that increase has been deemed to be around 800%
So there is an 800% rise in autism in the period parallel to the boom in vaccination.
However, as we now know, the bulk of toxic materials exposure is through consuming of animal products
The 4 major dangerous groups are.
Dioxins
Mercury
Pesticides
Antibiotics
Hormones
These are omnipresent in all animal products natural and farmed..
The rise of autism is most likely due to high consumption of animal products in wealthier nations.
Hmmm, this graph seems to instead pin that on organic food sales :eek:Show Image(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--HCBl1fRn--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/19bm94ui3v59fpng.png)
In all seriousness, you can draw all kinds of correlation but until I see hard data showing it, it's all speculation and worth jack **** to me.
if early hoomans did not eat meat we would not exist
if early hoomans did not eat meat we would not exist
Unlikely..
Early humans were incapable of acquiring a quantity greater than <1% of their diet.
With even very late stone age tools, hunting had low success rate.
Scavenging was never really possible either, because if you look at behavior of wild carnivores, they jealously guard their prey, even the left overs..
Finally, humans Today easily get sick from eating meat less than ideally cooked.. Now go back thousands of years, wild, with low hygiene, no clean water, no clean utensils, no refrigeration..
Fogettaboutit.
if early hoomans did not eat meat we would not exist
Unlikely..
Early humans were incapable of acquiring a quantity greater than <1% of their diet.
With even very late stone age tools, hunting had low success rate.
Scavenging was never really possible either, because if you look at behavior of wild carnivores, they jealously guard their prey, even the left overs..
Finally, humans Today easily get sick from eating meat less than ideally cooked.. Now go back thousands of years, wild, with low hygiene, no clean water, no clean utensils, no refrigeration..
Fogettaboutit.
http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/
"Science doesn’t give a hoot about your politics. Think global warming is a hoax or that vaccines are dangerous? Doesn’t matter, you’re wrong."
this was interesting at a glance.
http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/
"Science doesn’t give a hoot about your politics. Think global warming is a hoax or that vaccines are dangerous? Doesn’t matter, you’re wrong."
this was interesting at a glance.
Obviously it's Big Meat funding the articles.
Finally, humans Today easily get sick from eating meat less than ideally cooked.. Now go back thousands of years, wild, with low hygiene, no clean water, no clean utensils, no refrigeration..
http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/
"Science doesn’t give a hoot about your politics. Think global warming is a hoax or that vaccines are dangerous? Doesn’t matter, you’re wrong."
this was interesting at a glance.
Obviously it's Big Meat funding the articles.
Correct, remember , Times also published that issue which read butter doesn't cause heart disease..
Guys, We live in a confusing era where the major corporations throughly own all major information outlets.
The danger is if you're careless enough to not analyze the sources a little further.
The wealthy are in it together, It's not to say they necessarily want people to die, but a corporation must make money or perish..
So that lends itself to ambiguous evil.. Evil not in intent, but devastating in practice.
Finally, humans Today easily get sick from eating meat less than ideally cooked.. Now go back thousands of years, wild, with low hygiene, no clean water, no clean utensils, no refrigeration..
Fresh meat is far less likely to contain anything that would make us sick, but when you must transport it for hundreds of miles, it naturally picks up bacteria along the way. I eat rare steaks, because I like it that way. Humans also eat raw insects, raw eggs, etc. with little to no issues. Farmers drink fresh cows' milk that has not been pasteurized and they aren't dying. Humans have been eating raw and poorly processed animal products for millennia and will continue to do so for at least as long as we are alive.
Reread what I wrote. I literally said exactly what your first sentence says.
Reread what I wrote. I literally said exactly what your first sentence says.
But you implied that Wild meat is Safe..
It may not be as dangerous as Farmed Meats today, but it is FAR from safe.
Reread what I wrote. I literally said exactly what your first sentence says.
But you implied that Wild meat is Safe..
It may not be as dangerous as Farmed Meats today, but it is FAR from safe.
Says the guy that claims he needs a flashlight to go night fishing..
Reread what I wrote. I literally said exactly what your first sentence says.
But you implied that Wild meat is Safe..
It may not be as dangerous as Farmed Meats today, but it is FAR from safe.
Says the guy that claims he needs a flashlight to go night fishing..
//Cough, I'm actually just going for the boaty-water part..
No intention to eat mercury infused fishShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/E12R2ah.gif)
Mercury is a natural cure for hysteria and is a good source of vitamin B1, B2, C1, C2, C3PO and D. Just ask Karen Wetterhahn
Mercury is a natural cure for hysteria and is a good source of vitamin B1, B2, C1, C2, C3PO and D. Just ask Karen Wetterhahn
But eating fish causes nervous system damage.. How will you play the starcraft after fish ?
Mercury is a natural cure for hysteria and is a good source of vitamin B1, B2, C1, C2, C3PO and D. Just ask Karen Wetterhahn
But eating fish causes nervous system damage.. How will you play the starcraft after fish ?
Use one of those mouth blow tube buttons.
side note, chronic masturbation causes blindness. Trust me, i cannot see.
Use one of those mouth blow tube buttons.
side note, chronic masturbation causes blindness. Trust me, i cannot see.
Can confirm; I can't see past my nose for some reason.