125keys
normal 104
PLUS--》 winkeyless set (1.5x4,7x*1) + 6x +ISO set(ISO enter, R2 |\ ) + extra F&J + windowed keys(capslock x2, Numlock,ScrollLock)
layout
Russian Irish Desko Aurebesh(StarWar)
Normal English(Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple)
Images later
1) Is this BSP?
2) What about Red DeskoShow Image(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)
3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?Show Image(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)
3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)
4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?
1) Is this BSP?
2) What about Red DeskoShow Image(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)
3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?Show Image(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)
3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)
4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?
1 no, gateron based
2 no problem
3 should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4 yes 1800 is important layout now
Noob question. From what I've read so far... Gateron and BSP are both PBT keycap manufacturers. What's the main difference between them?
Noob question. From what I've read so far... Gateron and BSP are both PBT keycap manufacturers. What's the main difference between them?
BSP is a European country that owns the original Cherry tooling for PBT. Gateron is a fairly new company based in China. Gateron is very good for the price.
Noob question. From what I've read so far... Gateron and BSP are both PBT keycap manufacturers. What's the main difference between them?
BSP is a European country that owns the original Cherry tooling for PBT. Gateron is a fairly new company based in China. Gateron is very good for the price.
But durability/feel wise BSP is king?
BSP is a European country that owns the original Cherry tooling for PBT.I keep saying this.. They're either not the original or some moulds have been lost and the remaining moulds have been changed. All the moulds differ from the originals in some way and there are some big, bad differences too : no scooped f/j, the right shift is completely ****ed up, no spacebar, stems have been reported as wonky sometimes.
BSP is a European country that owns the original Cherry tooling for PBT.I keep saying this.. They're either not the original or some moulds have been lost and the remaining moulds have been changed. All the moulds differ from the originals in some way and there are some big, bad differences too : no scooped f/j, the right shift is completely ****ed up, no spacebar, stems have been reported as wonky sometimes.
Who stated, then, that BSP owns the original molds? What did they do regarding the missing molds?I have no idea who first said it. I just know they did not have any proven facts behind them. At this moment in time we have no idea what truly happened to the original Cherry dyesub PBT moulds. All we know is :
Who stated, then, that BSP owns the original molds? What did they do regarding the missing molds?I have no idea who first said it. I just know they did not have any proven facts behind them. At this moment in time we have no idea what truly happened to the original Cherry dyesub PBT moulds. All we know is :
1. While BSP utilizes the same profile and a very similar underside, there are small differences on the underside of BSP keycaps that distinguish them from original Cherry ones.
2. There are some keycaps that are either missing entirely or are very obviously different : BSP F/J have nipples instead of scoops, BSP offers no spacebars, BSPs right shift is too short, more thin and has a really prominent curve compared to the original - it looks really terrible.
I'm not too familiar with molds and tooling, but could it be possible that they did inheret the original parts, and that the mold for the right Shift somehow got damaged, the space bar parts were lost, and they made new molds or altered the originals for the F/J?Yeah, as I said, that is possible too :
Just speculating (and playing devil's advocate).
How do the tops appear next to original Cherry caps? I also would like to add that, if BSP owns original parts, defects also could be a result of wear and age.
They're either not the original or some moulds have been lost and the remaining moulds have been changed.
I'm not too familiar with molds and tooling, but could it be possible that they did inheret the original parts, and that the mold for the right Shift somehow got damaged, the space bar parts were lost, and they made new molds or altered the originals for the F/J?Yeah, as I said, that is possible too :
Just speculating (and playing devil's advocate).
How do the tops appear next to original Cherry caps? I also would like to add that, if BSP owns original parts, defects also could be a result of wear and age.They're either not the original or some moulds have been lost and the remaining moulds have been changed.
We just can't say for certain that BSP keycaps are made from the original Cherry moulds, and if they are they have certainly been modified and some of the keycaps are not the same at all.
What's your personal conclusion regarding BSP compared to original Cherry dyesubs, "lost" pieces notwithstanding?I haven't tried a full set before so I can't properly comment. I did have an RGB set though and iirc the texture was not anywhere near as nice as original Cherry. Texture is my favourite thing about Cherry dyesubs.. it's perfect.
Japanese set please :)
What's your personal conclusion regarding BSP compared to original Cherry dyesubs, "lost" pieces notwithstanding?I haven't tried a full set before so I can't properly comment. I did have an RGB set though and iirc the texture was not anywhere near as nice as original Cherry. Texture is my favourite thing about Cherry dyesubs.. it's perfect.
Japanese set please :)
Japanese set please :)
What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.
Japanese set please :)
What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.
Think hirigana is more often used :x. Katakana would be interesting but personally hirigana is a lot prettier.
1) Is this BSP?
2) What about Red DeskoShow Image(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)
3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?Show Image(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)
3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)
4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?
1 no, gateron based
2 no problem
3 should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4 yes 1800 is important layout now
Thanks imsto for answering!
Yeah, 1800 very important now, Red Desko is interesting.
You know 23 in Hammer Club - he has 3000SAT, maybe you can borrow to see.
Gateron is okay, good compatibility.
Edit: Also imsto one more question, have you considered doing Blue Russian/Cyrillic?
Japanese set please :)
What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.
Think hirigana is more often used :x. Katakana would be interesting but personally hirigana is a lot prettier.
katakana is for foreign words, right? do any japanese keyboards have katakana as primary legends?
i just hope imsto can bring back the previous japanese set back. it was quite pretty.
Japanese set please :)
What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.
Think hirigana is more often used :x. Katakana would be interesting but personally hirigana is a lot prettier.
katakana is for foreign words, right? do any japanese keyboards have katakana as primary legends?
i just hope imsto can bring back the previous japanese set back. it was quite pretty.
Yes Katakana is for pronunciation and formality. Hiragana is more basic of course. Hiragana is laid out like pinyin would be for chinese
Japanese set please :)
What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.
Think hirigana is more often used :x. Katakana would be interesting but personally hirigana is a lot prettier.
katakana is for foreign words, right? do any japanese keyboards have katakana as primary legends?
i just hope imsto can bring back the previous japanese set back. it was quite pretty.
Yes Katakana is for pronunciation and formality. Hiragana is more basic of course. Hiragana is laid out like pinyin would be for chinese
how about the last version of the Japanese layout?
Japanese set please :)
What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.
Think hirigana is more often used :x. Katakana would be interesting but personally hirigana is a lot prettier.
katakana is for foreign words, right? do any japanese keyboards have katakana as primary legends?
i just hope imsto can bring back the previous japanese set back. it was quite pretty.
Yes Katakana is for pronunciation and formality. Hiragana is more basic of course. Hiragana is laid out like pinyin would be for chinese
how about the last version of the Japanese layout?
Very good but the font was thin for the english letters, but I think that's fine and adds to the modern style haha. Maybe the mod legends can be changed (like cherry original font size)?
I think you should run japanese set as it was probably the most popular after pictures were released from IVAN's gb.
I know 23, I will try get make it. Blue russian will be done.
Came across this and did some searches. Would anyone be interested in something that looks like this? I know ducky has made them before as well
Came across this and did some searches. Would anyone be interested in something that looks like this? I know ducky has made them before as well
Is cute.
Came across this and did some searches. Would anyone be interested in something that looks like this? I know ducky has made them before as wellI used to made the Taiwanese layout, I will try find it out...
Is cute.
I just realized the first photo didn't have any symbols on the number row but if you see the ducky set it's on there lol
+ISO set(ISO enter, R2 |\ )
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.
+1.
Something like this would be amazing, clean and sharp.Show Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)
Credits: Vesper. :)
imsto, question about the extra F and J:
Are they going to be scooped-only moulds, no bars on it?
After Ivan's operation, he got no time to handle the GB now, So I'd do it myself.
As a vernder, I can not post thread on the GB forum, hope anybody can help me to tell the others....:P
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.
Can I suggest Arabic dyesub? Can't remember the model of the board but here is a pic:Show Image(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJdez3Ostg7Clzx-qF3PvXxNVUPP96ogfJYuFJeOrhR9AcDxp-)
I'm not the biggest fan of cream/pebble keycaps.They look great on vintage Cherry keyboards that usually have beige cases. But don't look as well on newer keyboards with white/silver/black cases.
I'd love to see a Miami-Odessa on all-white keycaps. Or with grey (not pebble) modifiers.
Or what about something more radical: IMSTO Dolch.
I'm not the biggest fan of cream/pebble keycaps.They look great on vintage Cherry keyboards that usually have beige cases. But don't look as well on newer keyboards with white/silver/black cases.
I'd love to see a Miami-Odessa on all-white keycaps. Or with grey (not pebble) modifiers.
Or what about something more radical: IMSTO Dolch.
I would love to see an all-white (which was the original Odessa) Miami-Odessa make a return.
Also, dolch is impossible for imsto pbt. Little crash course lesson for you: PBT is usually dyesubbed, as is with all imsto batches, and you can only dyesub a darker colour onto a lighter colour, so for something like Dolch, ABS doubleshot is your best bet.
IMSTO DolchAlso, dolch is impossible for imsto pbt. Little crash course lesson for you: PBT is usually dyesubbed, as is with all imsto batches, and you can only dyesub a darker colour onto a lighter colour, so for something like Dolch, ABS doubleshot is your best bet.
I'm not the biggest fan of cream/pebble keycaps.They look great on vintage Cherry keyboards that usually have beige cases. But don't look as well on newer keyboards with white/silver/black cases.
Imsto,
Will the Ural 1u winkeys have the orange cherries printed on them in this round?
Imsto,
Will the Ural 1u winkeys have the orange cherries printed on them in this round?
+1
i'm wondering about the 1u winkeys as well. previously from ivan's pbt r4 thread it seems that the 1u winkey will follow whatever the 1.25u winkey prints is from the set but it turns out to be just blanks.
Ok i'm a little confused since I have never order from IMSTO. Do we order from his website (EN or CN) or do we fill out a form through GH?
I don't think the GB is ready yet.
Imsto,yes, just like last time.
Will the Ural 1u winkeys have the orange cherries printed on them in this round?
Mm so you have time to get a groupbuy going but can't even reply to your customers? :/...... just too busy, answer the question right now :P
split right shift + function button would be awesome.a 1.75 shift + Fn?
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?how about the old hangul set that used to on my site. the blue one, cherry english and red hangul letter.
I don't like the look of thin legends.
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.
+1.
Something like this would be amazing, clean and sharp.Show Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)
Credits: Vesper. :)
imsto, question about the extra F and J:with bars but not sunken ones, you may notice the FJ of the black and the white/beige of last GB is like the POM cherry FJ
Are they going to be scooped-only moulds, no bars on it?
whoa, black on white aurebesh.I supposed to make blue and red , seems black is not the best choice.
After Ivan's operation, he got no time to handle the GB now, So I'd do it myself.
As a vernder, I can not post thread on the GB forum, hope anybody can help me to tell the others....:P
We can add a link to your group buy here in the Vendor Group Buys section: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57761.0
Thanks for adding my desired hungarian layout as option.I think there would be more needs from Europe
What will the purple look like? Like EnjoyPBT's, or a bit more blueish?used made purple keys, not like blue just purple.
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.
+1.
Something like this would be amazing, clean and sharp.Show Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)
Credits: Vesper. :)
yes, that's it, one batch for Korea a few months ago.
google docs are blocked in China, maybe I will just put the stuff on the site with the group price.Ok i'm a little confused since I have never order from IMSTO. Do we order from his website (EN or CN) or do we fill out a form through GH?
Agreed, I'm also kind of confused. Some clarification would be nice!
I am interested in buying the White/Beige thick PBT Cherry profile dyesub on your website but when I try to add it to cart, I get an error saying that I need to choose a color.means ...it's out of stock.
The problem is that it doesn't allow me to choose a color. Is this a bug in the website? Thanks
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.
+1.
Something like this would be amazing, clean and sharp.Show Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)
Credits: Vesper. :)
yes, that's it, one batch for Korea a few months ago.
They will? Awesome.Imsto,yes, just like last time.
Will the Ural 1u winkeys have the orange cherries printed on them in this round?
I don't think the GB is ready yet.
So essentially this is an Interest Check?
Something with Greek legends would also be really amazing!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M8nnwVJ.jpg)Show Image(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1687/24869182240_52ccbca94b_k.jpg)
Something with Greek legends would also be really amazing!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M8nnwVJ.jpg)Show Image(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1687/24869182240_52ccbca94b_k.jpg)
what's the name of it?
Would absolutely love a classic white/beige set that includes ISO UK.
Sorry to spam the thread IMSTO. I am very excited about these sets!yes, should consider about the old customers.
I just wanted to ask again if it will be possible to but the ISO kit separately. I am hoping to buy one full set, and one only ISO set is possible because I already have a cherry ANSI Irish that i only need ISO keys for (but I also want to pick up a new different set, cant get enough! :) )
Also, can someone explain to me which set the "Desko" one is? At first I thought it was the orange cryllic, but I think maybe there just isn't a picture of it.
What about German layout?yes sure, even french and ...etc
What about German layout?yes sure, even french and ...etc
What about German layout?yes sure, even french and ...etc
What about German layout?yes sure, even french and ...etc
hope you will upload all picture samples before the official gb starts. cant really choose with no pictures. :D
What about German layout?yes sure, even french and ...etc
What about German layout?yes sure, even french and ...etc
Scandinavian letters!
Can this get 1800 compatibility? :'(
1) Is this BSP?
2) What about Red DeskoShow Image(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)
3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?Show Image(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)
3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)
4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?
1 no, gateron based
2 no problem
3 should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4 yes 1800 is important layout now
Can this get 1800 compatibility? :'(1) Is this BSP?
2) What about Red DeskoShow Image(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)
3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?Show Image(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)
3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)
4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?
1 no, gateron based
2 no problem
3 should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4 yes 1800 is important layout now
Can this get 1800 compatibility? :'(1) Is this BSP?
2) What about Red DeskoShow Image(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)
3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?Show Image(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)
3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)
4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?
1 no, gateron based
2 no problem
3 should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4 yes 1800 is important layout now
Yes I read that, but that doesn't answer any confirmation. :confused:
Can this get 1800 compatibility? :'(1) Is this BSP?
2) What about Red DeskoShow Image(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)
3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?Show Image(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)
3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)
4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?
1 no, gateron based
2 no problem
3 should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4 yes 1800 is important layout now
Yes I read that, but that doesn't answer any confirmation. :confused:
I took that as him answering yes to karura's question.
I don't think he would have answered it like that if 1800 support wasn't included, but I'm sure he will clarify when he reads this :)
Please include Hebrew.
Would it be possible to include Hebrew diacritics? Something like this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wAupLyd.jpg?1)
layoutCurious what the Starcraft keyset will look like. :eek: ;D
Russian(Cyrillic), Irish(USIntl) , Ural, Desko(Orange & red), Miami, Aurebesh(StarWar),StarCraft, Hungarian, Japanese, Hangul(Normal blue Hangul/red Hangul),Taiwanese......
Normal English(Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple)
layoutCurious what the Starcraft keyset will look like. :eek: ;D
Russian(Cyrillic), Irish(USIntl) , Ural, Desko(Orange & red), Miami, Aurebesh(StarWar),StarCraft, Hungarian, Japanese, Hangul(Normal blue Hangul/red Hangul),Taiwanese......
Normal English(Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple)
layoutCurious what the Starcraft keyset will look like. :eek: ;D
Russian(Cyrillic), Irish(USIntl) , Ural, Desko(Orange & red), Miami, Aurebesh(StarWar),StarCraft, Hungarian, Japanese, Hangul(Normal blue Hangul/red Hangul),Taiwanese......
Normal English(Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple)
Isn't there a mockup? I saw a black on blue last time.
Didn't see that, pretty cool.layoutCurious what the Starcraft keyset will look like. :eek: ;D
Russian(Cyrillic), Irish(USIntl) , Ural, Desko(Orange & red), Miami, Aurebesh(StarWar),StarCraft, Hungarian, Japanese, Hangul(Normal blue Hangul/red Hangul),Taiwanese......
Normal English(Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple)
Isn't there a mockup? I saw a black on blue last time.
Yep its in the OPShow Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128673;image)
Please include Hebrew.
Would it be possible to include Hebrew diacritics? Something like this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wAupLyd.jpg?1)
How does Moses make his tea?
Hebrews it.
I can't wait to tell that to someone.Romevi couldn't resist either, twice!
Does anyone know if they do Hebrew?
How does Moses make his tea?
Hebrews it.
You've got to be yidding me...I can't wait to tell that to someone.Romevi couldn't resist either, twice!Does anyone know if they do Hebrew?
How does Moses make his tea?
Hebrews it.
The context and age of the audience make bar mitzvah's the perfect storm for this joke. Allegedly romevi frequents bar mitzvahs of children he doesn't know and repeatedly asks about Mosiac tea rituals; he has been asked not to return to multiple shuls in his area.
Let me try something..
The first sentence from Hebrew Alphabet Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet), "The Hebrew alphabet (Hebrew: אָלֶף־בֵּית עִבְרִי[a], alefbet ʿIvri), known variously by scholars as the Jewish script, square script, block script, is used in the writing of the Hebrew language, as well as of other Jewish languages, most notably Yiddish, Ladino, and Judeo-Arabic."
..waits to see if romevi goes for a double encore.
yes 1800 series should be included at least the spacebar win keys, now considering about the Del end pagedown - +..Can this get 1800 compatibility? :'(1) Is this BSP?
2) What about Red DeskoShow Image(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)
3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?Show Image(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)
3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)
4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?
1 no, gateron based
2 no problem
3 should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4 yes 1800 is important layout now
Yes I read that, but that doesn't answer any confirmation. :confused:
Please include Hebrew.interesting...
Would it be possible to include Hebrew diacritics? Something like this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wAupLyd.jpg?1)
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933
I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.
Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
@imsto so have you decided yet? :)
the white hangul set with thcik legends :DShow Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)
or the one on the front page? :OShow Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128669;image)
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933
I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.
Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933
I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.
Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
what is the nipple homeing key?
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933
I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.
Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
what is the nipple homeing key?
I can either find or make the legends if that would help.Please include Hebrew.interesting...
Would it be possible to include Hebrew diacritics? Something like this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wAupLyd.jpg?1)
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933
I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.
Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
what is the nipple homeing key?
I think the one on the 5 of the num pad.
I can either find or make the legends if that would help.Please include Hebrew.interesting...
Would it be possible to include Hebrew diacritics? Something like this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wAupLyd.jpg?1)
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933
I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.
Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
what is the nipple homeing key?
What is normal on your BSP GBs with F and J having dots instead of a bar.
Also do you know if the Control legend will be corrected like I mentioned in my comment above?
I see, there would be 2 extra FJ with a bar but not nipple and not scooped.This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933
I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.
Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
what is the nipple homeing key?
I think the one on the 5 of the num pad.
Friendly reminder of the suggestion of scandinavian layout / legends. Here is an example of a norwegian keyboard.Show Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Keyboard_Layout_Norwegian.png)
I will be in, regardless :)
any image of the full layout ?
yes 1800 series should be included at least the spacebar win keys, now considering about the Del end pagedown - +..
I would suggest using the following layout, as I dont think that there are that many buyers for each of the country specific layout.Show Image(https://datordax.se/info_sheets/das_keyboard_nordic_layout.jpg)
of course the ö and ä keys would only have to contain 2 letters (Æ / Ä) and (Ø / Ö) as we can just interchange them.
@imsto so have you decided yet? :)
the white hangul set with thcik legends :DShow Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)
or the one on the front page? :OShow Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128669;image)
that's easy.
Can I suggest Arabic dyesub? Can't remember the model of the board but here is a pic:Show Image(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJdez3Ostg7Clzx-qF3PvXxNVUPP96ogfJYuFJeOrhR9AcDxp-)
I will checkCan I suggest Arabic dyesub? Can't remember the model of the board but here is a pic:Show Image(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJdez3Ostg7Clzx-qF3PvXxNVUPP96ogfJYuFJeOrhR9AcDxp-)
I found a font similar to the one in the pic called "Arabic Typesetting (https://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1874)":Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lGaZ2C6.png)Show Image(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/400/473/006/78f48cfd629c74185511d6d81b0c116b.JPG)
I would suggest using the following layout, as I dont think that there are that many buyers for each of the country specific layout.Show Image(https://datordax.se/info_sheets/das_keyboard_nordic_layout.jpg)
of course the ö and ä keys would only have to contain 2 letters (Æ / Ä) and (Ø / Ö) as we can just interchange them.
That's the Irish set Ivan did and I plan on doing as part of the Royal Alpha inspired set.
This sets are insane...
Where I can buy the sets ? Im looking for a link, form or something but i cant find anything...
I'd be interested in a japanese set. How much are you selling them for
Gals and guys, he said to email him for suggestions.
He's already got 12 options; I think that's a pretty good selection. :))
Gals and guys, he said to email him for suggestions.
He's already got 12 options; I think that's a pretty good selection. :))
Yeah no offense, but almost every post is about something new to add. Remember we need to hit MOQs with these items.
Let's keep them to a minimum so we can actually make it happen. :thumb:
that's not in the plan. but you may choose order them with the custom order link.yes 1800 series should be included at least the spacebar win keys, now considering about the Del end pagedown - +..
Any 75% support for pgup pgdn del keys?
your layout missing a 1,25 left shift to be 100% ISO compatible.Yep, and a complementary r1 1u to put beside the 1.25u shift.
your layout missing a 1,25 left shift to be 100% ISO compatible.
your layout missing a 1,25 left shift to be 100% ISO compatible.
The 105th 1U key between the left Shift and Z/Y is also missing.
BTW, can we order some extra caps like 3U space bar for Minila? Gateron makes them in Cherry profile.
I could use 2 for my future split keyboard project.
your layout missing a 1,25 left shift to be 100% ISO compatible.
The 105th 1U key between the left Shift and Z/Y is also missing.
BTW, can we order some extra caps like 3U space bar for Minila? Gateron makes them in Cherry profile.
I could use 2 for my future split keyboard project.
about the 1.25x shift and 1x and 3x space bar would be avaialble on my site as custom order.
Hmm. I was mainly interested in this because of the ISO compability, if I need to make an extra custom order on top to get all keys, I'm not as interested anymore...your layout missing a 1,25 left shift to be 100% ISO compatible.
The 105th 1U key between the left Shift and Z/Y is also missing.
BTW, can we order some extra caps like 3U space bar for Minila? Gateron makes them in Cherry profile.
I could use 2 for my future split keyboard project.
about the 1.25x shift and 1x and 3x space bar would be avaialble on my site as custom order.
I think ISO is more important than G80-1800 addons, as there are more european users than G80-1800 users.But how many keys does it take to make it compatible for all ISO users?
I think ISO is more important than G80-1800 addons, as there are more european users than G80-1800 users.But how many keys does it take to make it compatible for all ISO users?
I think ISO is more important than G80-1800 addons, as there are more european users than G80-1800 users.
I think most ISO users would be OK with a 4-key kit: Enter, Shift, and two 1u keys (R1 & R2), all of them necessary to fill out an ISO keyboard.
Imsto, can you please add 1 key to the 1u size for compatibility? Either 1u Fn, or 1u "Menu" key
This will be very useful to pair with the short right shift.
I would suggest using the following layout, as I dont think that there are that many buyers for each of the country specific layout.Show Image(https://datordax.se/info_sheets/das_keyboard_nordic_layout.jpg)
of course the ö and ä keys would only have to contain 2 letters (Æ / Ä) and (Ø / Ö) as we can just interchange them.
I would suggest using the following layout, as I dont think that there are that many buyers for each of the country specific layout.Show Image(https://datordax.se/info_sheets/das_keyboard_nordic_layout.jpg)
of course the ö and ä keys would only have to contain 2 letters (Æ / Ä) and (Ø / Ö) as we can just interchange them.
For the love of god, NO!!!
Just about every Dane I have talked about keyboards with, hates that kind of compromise. It looks cheap and like it's sole purpose in life is cost efficiency.
And, really, how high is the MOQ for each layout? because I am pretty sure there is enough danish and norwegian persons that would join, the gb just needs to be posted to local PC forums.
I think ISO is more important than G80-1800 addons, as there are more european users than G80-1800 users.But how many keys does it take to make it compatible for all ISO users?
I think most ISO users would be OK with a 4-key kit: Enter, Shift, and two 1u keys (R1 & R2), all of them necessary to fill out an ISO keyboard. Only half of those keys are included. I'd rather have all 4 or none (and a later custom 4 key kit).
Edit: Image for clarification (ignore extra enter):Show Image(http://images.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/125426841/max_h-1000+max_w-1000/DSC04264s.jpg)
Not just those keys.I think ISO is more important than G80-1800 addons, as there are more european users than G80-1800 users.But how many keys does it take to make it compatible for all ISO users?
I think most ISO users would be OK with a 4-key kit: Enter, Shift, and two 1u keys (R1 & R2), all of them necessary to fill out an ISO keyboard. Only half of those keys are included. I'd rather have all 4 or none (and a later custom 4 key kit).
Edit: Image for clarification (ignore extra enter):Show Image(http://images.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/125426841/max_h-1000+max_w-1000/DSC04264s.jpg)
That's not completely right. Many ISO users use their country layout so we need äöü and another numrow in case of a German layout.
Imsto, can the "Sys Rq" and "Break" legends be printed on the sides of the keycaps rather than on top? The same as on your BSP sets.
What's the difference between Hangul and Cherry Style Hangul? And where is the japanese option... also +1 more for what DESKO looks like...I'm going to guess the difference is the regular Hangul is the one in the OP and the Cherry Hangul is the one he's made before.
@imsto so have you decided yet? :)
the white hangul set with thcik legends :DShow Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)
...
hello
I want to join this group buys ...
but I not really sure ...
http://imgur.com/ihdwH7F
This picture layout is called what?
called Cherry style Russian orange layout?
and how to order this layout keycap set...
hello
I want to join this group buys ...
but I not really sure ...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ihdwH7F.jpg)
This picture layout is called what?
called Cherry style Russian orange layout?
and how to order this layout keycap set...
+1 on the Japanese set
Does this mean this GB has already started on his website?
Don't wanna miss the order deadline....
Is there an option for a red Cyrillic keyset in this GB?Yea the Russian is the normal red Cyrillic. He didn't post a pic in OP but it's listed and on the site.
anyone else ordered and paid in the imsto.cn site for these set?
anyone else ordered and paid in the imsto.cn site for these set?
I had no idea it was even available. Poor communication.
i hope imsto can confirm since i already paid and not sure that it even started already. kind of being careful now with gbs due to recent events :rolleyes:anyone else ordered and paid in the imsto.cn site for these set?
I had no idea it was even available. Poor communication.
Same. Has the GB commenced, then?
The lack of communication here is appalling. Any info on when this starts/ends would be appreciated.
hello, i'm noob here
I have ordered aurebesh layout
Don't know if this is possible. :)Show Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )
hello, i'm noob here
I have ordered aurebesh layout
Don't know if this is possible. :)Show Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )
It will be black on white not what you have posted.
hello, i'm noob here
I have ordered aurebesh layout
Don't know if this is possible. :)Show Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )
That would have to be doubleshot which isn't something imsto does.hello, i'm noob here
I have ordered aurebesh layout
Don't know if this is possible. :)Show Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )
It will be black on white not what you have posted.
I know that, just ask if there are other colors
white on black is not possible for dyesub. only darker colors on light keys.
That would have to be doubleshot which isn't something imsto does.
Imsto, can you please add 1 key to the 1u size for compatibility? Either 1u Fn, or 1u "Menu" keythere's a 1x r1 menu key included.
This will be very useful to pair with the short right shift.
Can we get some confirmation on what font these are using? Are all of these the weird mixed ivan/cherry font? Is the Desko set the mixed font or is it the cherry replica?
I would be happy to buy a few sets if they used the cherry replica font and not the Ivan one like round 3.
Imsto, how do I choose Red Desko for GB order?
I only see "Desko" and would prefer to order the Red Desko, thanks!
I would suggest using the following layout, as I dont think that there are that many buyers for each of the country specific layout.Show Image(https://datordax.se/info_sheets/das_keyboard_nordic_layout.jpg)
of course the ö and ä keys would only have to contain 2 letters (Æ / Ä) and (Ø / Ö) as we can just interchange them.
For the love of god, NO!!!
Just about every Dane I have talked about keyboards with, hates that kind of compromise. It looks cheap and like it's sole purpose in life is cost efficiency.
And, really, how high is the MOQ for each layout? because I am pretty sure there is enough danish and norwegian persons that would join, the gb just needs to be posted to local PC forums.
ok, almost every thing is okay now.
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.
the order deadline is April 15.
but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.
are these available on taobao?
ok, almost every thing is okay now.
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.
the order deadline is April 15.
but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.
ok, almost every thing is okay now.
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.
the order deadline is April 15.
but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.
how about pictures of the ancient egyptian? and the german as well?
ok, almost every thing is okay now.Delighted to hear this from you sir :) Thanks for the confirmation :-*
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.
the order deadline is April 15.
but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.
ok, almost every thing is okay now.
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.
the order deadline is April 15.
but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.
Can we get some confirmation on what font these are using? Are all of these the weird mixed ivan/cherry font? Is the Desko set the mixed font or is it the cherry replica?
I would be happy to buy a few sets if they used the cherry replica font and not the Ivan one like round 3.
I will use the cherry replica font I used made, will not use ivan's fonts.
How do you order normal english?
To my fellow Norwegians: I have sent these pictures from deskthority as reference. http://imgur.com/a/SePns Original norwegian doubleshots made in West-Germany :Dyes got it, thank you so much.
are these available on taobao?
Thank !!!hello
I want to join this group buys ...
but I not really sure ...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ihdwH7F.jpg)
This picture layout is called what?
called Cherry style Russian orange layout?
and how to order this layout keycap set...
imsto's orange russian keyset is named "Ural".+1 on the Japanese set
japanese set, please!
ok, almost every thing is okay now.
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.
the order deadline is April 15.
but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.
how about pictures of the ancient egyptian? and the german as well?
Is it possible to add "\ |" on number row, and delete on qwerty row to complete HHKB style keyboard?
ok, almost every thing is okay now.
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.
the order deadline is April 15.
but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.
You listed japanese as one of the layouts but I don't see it on your site
From glancing at the imsto website, Seems like we can order the miami colours in Korean and other languages? Is this correct?
What about the 1.25U short left Shift and the +1 key next to it for ISO layouts?
Can I order my hungarian layout?
How do you order normal english?
What? It was not a yes/no question. I'm asking where the option for normal English is.How do you order normal english?
yes the normal blacking is this layout.
ok, almost every thing is okay now.
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.
the order deadline is April 15.
but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.
You listed japanese as one of the layouts but I don't see it on your site
forget it...
just added.
Is it possible to add "\ |" on number row, and delete on qwerty row to complete HHKB style keyboard?
this could be ordered from my site directly. these two keys will not be included.
What about the 1.25U short left Shift and the +1 key next to it for ISO layouts?
Can I order my hungarian layout?
okay then will add it, but plz send me some more information about the layout.
Is it possible to add "\ |" on number row, and delete on qwerty row to complete HHKB style keyboard?
this could be ordered from my site directly. these two keys will not be included.
Well the egipcian one is cool and all, but why didn't you consider making a replica of the Cherry G81-3000 SAA?
That is so much better than the current egipcian layout, i bought ot from the site hopping it would be something like the SAA, and then the render came out and I was very disappointed.
Well the egipcian one is cool and all, but why didn't you consider making a replica of the Cherry G81-3000 SAA?
i've emailed imsto about this, don't think he will do the exact 3000 SAA unless someone can give him full clear vector of the fonts. however i did ask him if he can do this instead;Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8pUCLb5.gif)
i think this should be ok, with the standard fonts/symbols in cherry black while the additional arabic fonts/symbols in blue. the numpad should have the same font as the numbers row mod only
without the !@#$%^&*()
I still have no idea what is going on. Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.
I still have no idea what is going on. Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.
I still have no idea what is going on. Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.
I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.
I still have no idea what is going on. Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.
I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.
That too. I pm'd imsto about the Cyrillic layouts too, since there's Russian, Ural, and Miami, but there is no mock-up for regular Russian, and have gotten no response.
Yeah, I did when I first made the order a few days ago.I still have no idea what is going on. Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.
I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.
That too. I pm'd imsto about the Cyrillic layouts too, since there's Russian, Ural, and Miami, but there is no mock-up for regular Russian, and have gotten no response.
I'll just wait it out till there's some clarity from imsto.
Have you paid for yours yet?
Yeah, I did when I first made the order a few days ago.I still have no idea what is going on. Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.
I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.
That too. I pm'd imsto about the Cyrillic layouts too, since there's Russian, Ural, and Miami, but there is no mock-up for regular Russian, and have gotten no response.
I'll just wait it out till there's some clarity from imsto.
Have you paid for yours yet?
Hopefully I don't regret it :p
MoreYeah, I did when I first made the order a few days ago.I still have no idea what is going on. Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.
I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.
That too. I pm'd imsto about the Cyrillic layouts too, since there's Russian, Ural, and Miami, but there is no mock-up for regular Russian, and have gotten no response.
I'll just wait it out till there's some clarity from imsto.
Have you paid for yours yet?
Hopefully I don't regret it :p
Should be ok, I hope.
We just need more clarity. That's about it :)
MoreYeah, I did when I first made the order a few days ago.I still have no idea what is going on. Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.
I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.
That too. I pm'd imsto about the Cyrillic layouts too, since there's Russian, Ural, and Miami, but there is no mock-up for regular Russian, and have gotten no response.
I'll just wait it out till there's some clarity from imsto.
Have you paid for yours yet?
Hopefully I don't regret it :p
Should be ok, I hope.
We just need more clarity. That's about it :)
The site still doesn't have the Japanese layout listed, did he decide not to run it?
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on
+1 Same here.
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on
+1 Same here.
+2
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on
+1 Same here.
+2
+3
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on
+1 Same here.
+2
+3
-1
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on
+1 Same here.
+2
+3
-1
+2????
maybe 9probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on
+1 Same here.
+2
+3
-1
+2????
=7
i think thats why imsto get someone to do the GB for him. I already ordered sometime back and hope i wont regret it :-\
i've successfully ordered a couple of things from imsto in the past. when i had some minor issues with certain orders, he was responsive and helped square things away with me.
so personally i trust that he will deliver for this GB, although things might seem a little disorganized right now.
i've successfully ordered a couple of things from imsto in the past. when i had some minor issues with certain orders, he was responsive and helped square things away with me.
so personally i trust that he will deliver for this GB, although things might seem a little disorganized right now.
i've made purchases from him too, some from his taobao shop. i think he will deliver just fine, but without dem picturez many won't order simply because we don't know how'd they look like.
not sure if thats an invoice but its recorded in my paypal that i paid for the set so i guess i did. Im still hopeful since he has his own store front and a vendor no less. Just want the set i bought badly but no communication always makes me worry.i think thats why imsto get someone to do the GB for him. I already ordered sometime back and hope i wont regret it :-\
bro, you received any paypal invoice for that?
Would like to order a Hangul set as well,
but Im confused about the difference between Hangul and Cherry style Hangul tbh.
Pictures only seem to show two versions of Japanese, none of which is available as an option.
I have faith in imsto and don't really think the gb is dead, but its definitely a little confusing and unclear in its current state xD
Would appreciate if anyone could enlighten me bout the difference Hangul vs Cherry style Hangul. :)
Would like to order a Hangul set as well,
but Im confused about the difference between Hangul and Cherry style Hangul tbh.
Pictures only seem to show two versions of Japanese, none of which is available as an option.
I have faith in imsto and don't really think the gb is dead, but its definitely a little confusing and unclear in its current state xD
Would appreciate if anyone could enlighten me bout the difference Hangul vs Cherry style Hangul. :)
I'm assuming hangul is the one pictured on page 1 the same as the Ivan sold.
Cherry style hangul would have cherry fonts instead.
But this is just me speculating. I asked him a few pages back too but didn't get a clear answer.
Would like to order a Hangul set as well,
but Im confused about the difference between Hangul and Cherry style Hangul tbh.
Pictures only seem to show two versions of Japanese, none of which is available as an option.
I have faith in imsto and don't really think the gb is dead, but its definitely a little confusing and unclear in its current state xD
Would appreciate if anyone could enlighten me bout the difference Hangul vs Cherry style Hangul. :)
I'm assuming hangul is the one pictured on page 1 the same as the Ivan sold.
Cherry style hangul would have cherry fonts instead.
But this is just me speculating. I asked him a few pages back too but didn't get a clear answer.
Thx a lot pichu23, that was actually really helpful to me!
Didn't realize cherry style might refer to legends altho it was kinda obvious for most I guess...
So Hangul might refer to the one shown in the op which looks an awful lost like this to me:
(picture taken from md)Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/royal-glam-60-wood-keyboard-case/MD-17050_20160321121715_a9a6296c9972f78d.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=2)
And I imagine the Cherry style Hangul might look the same or similar to this picture by Pemdas of Imsto Hangul dysubs from an earlier round.
(mods are bluegaloo and cmyk)Show Image(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1691/25946969056_691cfe57d4_c.jpg)
Will this drop succeed?tune in next week to find out
Posting this here to tease all of you who missed imsto jpn round1 :-*Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZPSSMBy.jpg)
Here's my contribution to encourage people to pick up the Japanese set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dQwVkM3.jpg)
Here's my contribution to encourage people to pick up the Japanese set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dQwVkM3.jpg)
I would if we could place an order T_T
It's nice you guys are hyping up Japanese and all but it would be even better if it were an option for this GB. It's not even available on his website yet.Yea he has been adding pictures for the sets at least so he's listening albeit slowly adding them, though for Japanese it's not a problem as we had a render and pictures from previous sets.
so imsto replied my email today. i asked him did he receive the arabic fonts picture i sent? he said yes but he needs the vector files to do it. not sure if he can make it himself.
i also told him to update the missing options at his website such as japanese layout.
so imsto replied my email today. i asked him did he receive the arabic fonts picture i sent? he said yes but he needs the vector files to do it. not sure if he can make it himself.
i also told him to update the missing options at his website such as japanese layout.
so imsto replied my email today. i asked him did he receive the arabic fonts picture i sent? he said yes but he needs the vector files to do it. not sure if he can make it himself.
i also told him to update the missing options at his website such as japanese layout.
no problem guys. MOZ, i've sent you my email add via pm sir, please straightaway email me and lets try work something out.Sent you an email an hour ago :P
Interested to see if an arabic sets goes through. If there's a possibility of one I would def order.
if the arabic is offered, at this point it will hopefully be something very similar, although not exact.
for now, imsto updated the website options, order away guys!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6buUegA.png)
if the arabic is offered, at this point it will hopefully be something very similar, although not exact.
for now, imsto updated the website options, order away guys!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6buUegA.png)
if the arabic is offered, at this point it will hopefully be something very similar, although not exact.
for now, imsto updated the website options, order away guys!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6buUegA.png)
Nice! Any idea how long will the GB take? Might need to get it shipped to another address if it takes awhile.
Still holding out for that Cherry Hangul mockup though. Could you ask imsto if you're replying him? :D
Thanks again!
if the arabic is offered, at this point it will hopefully be something very similar, although not exact.
for now, imsto updated the website options, order away guys!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6buUegA.png)
Nice! Any idea how long will the GB take? Might need to get it shipped to another address if it takes awhile.
Still holding out for that Cherry Hangul mockup though. Could you ask imsto if you're replying him? :D
Thanks again!
I had some contact with IMSTO. I'm currently working on the Arabic legends, but should have mockups for most of the sets made soon.
Does anybody has a sample image of Red Desko?
I'm really interested in the Desko and Red Desko, but I've never seen the Red one yet.
There's still an amazing lack of information in this group buy...it's astounding. No offense to imsto, i do like the guy, but seriously this is a train wreck. There's pages of people asking questions and he just goes and updates his website with more options? There are 14 layouts listed on the first page yet there are 19 options available to order and no way to match up what is what.
And i still don't know wtf half of these are. What is Ural? And russian is shown in the pics but it's not listed for sale.
I just want one image/pic of every layout with labels so I know wtf I'm buying. He also responded long ago that he will be using the Cherry replica font and not Ivan's mish mash of random fonts...but all the images and all the renders he's posting show Ivan's font. I just have no friggin clue wtf is going on.
Arabic set, still work in progress, but feedback?Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Arabic_1.png)
Some keys are different to the ones IMSTO proposed, but I feel this setup is better suited to more layouts without increasing the key count drastically.
Not super happy about the cherry logo, would prefer an OS neutral key. How about a crescent and moon?
Not going for novelties, just that one win key. I know it bothers Mac/Linux users to look at that win key.
Once IMSTO confirms the keys, I should be able to provide mockups to most of the other layouts, so that should calm people down and see what they are ordering.
On retrospect I think the palm is better because the crescent and moon might spike some religious talk. Just my two cents. I'm just here to help with the design to see this through.
I highly doubt any religious talk will spark from the crescent symbol since nothing happened in the last buy concerning that.
Does someone want to tell me what relation palm trees have to that particular set? I think it wouldn't look aesthetically pleasing.
I highly doubt any religious talk will spark from the crescent symbol since nothing happened in the last buy concerning that.
Does someone want to tell me what relation palm trees have to that particular set? I think it wouldn't look aesthetically pleasing.
Does anybody has a sample image of Red Desko?
I'm really interested in the Desko and Red Desko, but I've never seen the Red one yet.
HereShow Image(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)
Those look absolutely superb MOZ, however I would not recommend using the star and crescent for the Arabic set (or the yin yang for the Hangul for that matter).
Alright, so I've got a few designs up for feedback:
Arabic:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Arabic48971.png)
Hangul (I tried to use a design similar to the Cherry font):MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Hangul.png)
Cyrillic/Ural (Just imagine red is orange):MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Cyrillic.png)
Miami:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Miami.png)
Remember, legends are not 100% position precise as I don't have the key template from IMSTO yet.
Desko mockups coming up next...
Those look absolutely superb MOZ, however I would not recommend using the star and crescent for the Arabic set (or the yin yang for the Hangul for that matter).
Reasons? Go with classic Win 98 logo?
I've sent him an email and hopefully if he sees that this setup is better, he'll agree.
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Those looking for EU language specific layouts, please confirm if these are correct:
Norwegian:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_nor.png)
Danish:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_dan.png)
French:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_fre.png)
German:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_ger.png)
HungarianShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_hun.png)
I think going with black font face would be best? How about adapter kits rather than full sets. For the Nordic layouts German, French, this shouldn't be more than a few keys.
I've sent him an email and hopefully if he sees that this setup is better, he'll agree.
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Those looking for EU language specific layouts, please confirm if these are correct:
Norwegian:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_nor.png)
I think going with black font face would be best? How about adapter kits rather than full sets. For the Nordic layouts German, French, this shouldn't be more than a few keys.
I've sent him an email and hopefully if he sees that this setup is better, he'll agree.
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Those looking for EU language specific layouts, please confirm if these are correct:
Norwegian:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_nor.png)
Danish:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_dan.png)
French:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_fre.png)
German:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_ger.png)
HungarianShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_hun.png)
I think going with black font face would be best? How about adapter kits rather than full sets. For the Nordic layouts German, French, this shouldn't be more than a few keys.
What font did Imsto use for the Hangul here? I really like it.I believe that's the Cherry style Hangul.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MT3pdij.jpg)
Miami, need ideas for win key:You could use the old designs unless you don't want to use that because it's Ivan's.Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Miamib60a1.png)
I think he's talking about the particular font for the Hangul characters. It is Gunsuh/Bantang.ttc, comes with Windows pre-installed.
I think he's talking about the particular font for the Hangul characters. It is Gunsuh/Bantang.ttc, comes with Windows pre-installed.Oh okay my bad
I think he's talking about the particular font for the Hangul characters. It is Gungsuh/Bantang.ttc, comes with Windows pre-installed.
Thanks. It looks like Gungsuh. Do you know if he plans to do any of the sets with that font?
You could use the old designs unless you don't want to use that because it's Ivan's.
Reasons? Go with classic Win 98 logo?Mostly because it's an Islamic symbol which I and many others wouldn't want on a keyboard. Personally, I would still buy the set and replace the key with regular winkeys, however I know that some other people wouldn't be willing to go to that much effort.
No Aurebesh for round 4?
Reasons? Go with classic Win 98 logo?Mostly because it's an Islamic symbol which I and many others wouldn't want on a keyboard. Personally, I would still buy the set and replace the key with regular winkeys, however I know that some other people wouldn't be willing to go to that much effort.
I mentioned the Hangul set too because, to be honest, I think just regular winkeys look better. However, I don't see the yin yang as problematic like the star and crescent.
Saying that the crescent moon is an Islamic simbol, is like saying that the swastika is a purely nazi symbol, or that Isis is a only a terror organization name, without any other hystorical meanings. The crescent moon is now associated with Islam only because it was used by the Otoman empire. Before that it was used by many ancient people.In modern history it is an Islamic symbol; that's what it primarily represents in today's society. Besides, I don't think anyone would want to see a Swastika on a keyset, even if it were meant to represent something other than the Nazis. I mean, there are guys on taobao that sell Swastika keycaps that aren't meant to represent Nazism, but I don't see anyone here buying them.
I agree about the moon and crescent, this was my initial hesitation too. What about the palm tree that has been suggested?I'm sure a palm tree would be absolutely fine. If it were up to me I'd still just go with a Windows logo, but that's just my opinion and I may be in the minority here. I would just steer clear of any religious symbols, especially ones which are controversial. A palm tree definitely fits that criteria.
Alright, so I've got a few designs up for feedback:
Arabic:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Arabic1999e.png)
The discussion thus far is exactly why I want to avoid using the crescent and star. Will replace with palm tree/cactus. lolpes do you have an image in mind? I can think of a nice silhouette of that kind.
Alright, so I've got a few designs up for feedback:
Arabic:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Arabic1999e.png)
MOZ: I like what you did here with the Arabic legends!
Here is the thing. It is a mystery to me why some Arabic keyboards use the isolated form of each character, while others like the Cherry G81-3000 use the initial form.
Do you have any thoughts on this matter?
For example, you can see the difference between the two in this Wikipedia table:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_alphabet#Letter_forms
I would have thought that the isolated form is more "proper" (if there is such a thing) because it treats each letter individually instead of representing it as it would look like at the start of a word.
Also, the isolated letters look more beautiful to me. Here is the Apple keyboard layout for Arabic (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201794) as an example (which is probably not the greatest example since they use a very weird layout):Show Image(https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/keyboards/arabic_notebook.png)MoreAnd here is a random keyboard I found... I liked the blue/white contrast, and this has a more conventional layout:Show Image(http://aramedia.com/arbickey.jpg)
I think maybe I prefer the isolated form because there is more diversity in the letter shapes, which makes it more interesting.
On the other hand, there is a sort of smooth uniformity about the initial form look, which makes it look sleek.
Hold your horses dearies, I'll get to each set one by one :P
I've been thinking, we've always done the Irish set in US-Intl, how about doing it in some other color, and...
Have the Irish set done in Tengwar/Sindarin. English primary legends in dark green and Tengwar legends in lime. Thoughts?
Have the Irish set done in Tengwar/Sindarin. English primary legends in dark green and Tengwar legends in lime. Thoughts?Would love to see Sindarin in dark green and English in black. To me elves mean deep, celtic forests. Dark green works best for this, while lime is too bright and citrusy.
I agree with Photekq hereHave the Irish set done in Tengwar/Sindarin. English primary legends in dark green and Tengwar legends in lime. Thoughts?Would love to see Sindarin in dark green and English in black. To me elves mean deep, celtic forests. Dark green works best for this, while lime is too bright and citrusy.
Is it still possible to ask for an ISO portuguese layout or am I too late ? :D
I have a G80-1800 ISO to recondition that is just begging for some decent keycaps
What's preferred for Japanese, Mincho or Gothic?
HungarianShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_hun.png)
Alright, so I've got a few designs up for feedback:
Arabic:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Arabic1999e.png)
Miami, need ideas for win key:
Miami, need ideas for win key:
Well, the palm tree is in fact the Miami official seal...Show Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Seal_of_Miami,_Florida.svg/140px-Seal_of_Miami,_Florida.svg.png)
Too many palm trees in this thread :))
Will Miami be on full white background?
Will there be any other sets on full white background?
So here goes, mockups again.
Arabic Changed win key to palm tree, sand, remove arrow from the numpad enter for the classic look:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/01/Arabic.png)
The mockups look great MOZ, but I'm a little confused here...are you working with IMSTO on the final layout or what's happening?
Is there an option for Red Russian Cyrillic like this one shown in the OP?Show Image(http://imsto.cn/image/data/round4/7.jpg)
I dont see an option for it on the order page, i only see the option "Russian".
Red Desko Replicated the exact look of the Red Desko set. Added Desko logo win key, there was no win key in OG set.:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/01/DeskoRed.png)
MOZ,
what do you mean by 'basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami.'?
Just to clarify, I'm not just creating reference mockups, but hopefully what should be the final sets. I have been in correspondence with IMSTO about this. His previous sets were more or less designed by Ivan, who did a great job no doubt. So this is one aspect he needs assistance with.
Regarding the final keycaps on offer, I have sent him IMSTO a message, but communication isn't his strongest suite :P, still waiting to hear from him.
I think it might best to go with classic Win 98 logo on the Desko, basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami. For some sets, such as the Hangul, Japanese, the win key is quite elegant so I'll leave it. Thoughts?
Thanks MOZ, I prefer win8 logos on most of them, as win98 logo is quite a niche, and win8 logo is more neutral and cleaner with classic sets.
Because... Am I the only one who prefers the old Japanese set with it having a simple Japanese font? :(
Thanks MOZ, I prefer win8 logos on most of them, as win98 logo is quite a niche, and win8 logo is more neutral and cleaner with classic sets.
Agreed! Win8 for most of the sets and 98 for Desko please! Thanks, MOZ. You're doing great work!
Just to clarify, I'm not just creating reference mockups, but hopefully what should be the final sets. I have been in correspondence with IMSTO about this. His previous sets were more or less designed by Ivan, who did a great job no doubt. So this is one aspect he needs assistance with.
Regarding the final keycaps on offer, I have sent him IMSTO a message, but communication isn't his strongest suite :P, still waiting to hear from him.
I think it might best to go with classic Win 98 logo on the Desko, basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami. For some sets, such as the Hangul, Japanese, the win key is quite elegant so I'll leave it. Thoughts?
Long live the Win7 logo, or better yet the Win95/98.
How do you guys feel about the gateron keycaps? Where do they rank vs past pbt keycaps imsto has sold?Better than Vortex, not as good as BSP smoothness wise, thickness they're a tiny bit thicker than vortex, and thicker than BSP.
I appreciate the work moz, but I ordered the japanese set because I like minimalistic look of the old one. Now if imsto changes it, I'll have to cancel my order
Wow, italian wasn't taken even into consideration. I'm not really surprised though, I doubt it could reach even 10 orders.Noone asked for it, all the EU sets, at least on person had asked for it. Don't have anything against Italians :P
Is this the correct layout:99% accurate.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/40WbeZe.png)
Based on the various feedback, I've made some changes to all the sets. There are some minor corrections her and there in all the sets.
I removed the backspace sideprint on the alpha colored 1.5U key because when using that key as a backspace, you'd want to use the darker colroed mod key. If users feel strongly about removing the sideprinted Control and Lock, I can remove that as well, although I think it is good compromise for those wanting to use HHKB style layout (Me, not being one of them).
Also changed the win key on some of the sets, in general if the primary legend is black, I've gone ahead with the win98 logo and if they are colored, then with the win8 logo. Again, I'm going to go with whatever the consensus is(Or the closest thing to it is :))).
Regarding the EU sets, I'm not sure what the MOQ is, but if it is 20 (waiting for IMSTO to confirm), then I doubt we'll hit that number for all the sets. It might be a better idea to have a base EU set, and then language addons. Just my two cents.
There can surely be errors and would encourage users to double-triple check the sets they want to order for correct legends. Making mockups for some 20+ sets, one can start to lose their mind :))
Arabic:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Arabic.png)
Russian (Cyrillic) / Ural (Image red legends are orange):MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Cyrillic.png)
DESKO:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Desko.png)
Desko Red:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/DeskoRed.png)
Cherry Hangul:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Hangul.png)
Japanese (Which one is better Japanese text in red or black?):MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Japanese.png)MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/JapaneseI.png)
Miami (Ukranian):MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Miami.png)
Tengwar:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Tengwar.png)
US-Intl (Irish):MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/US-Intl.png)
Cherry Black:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Black.png)
Cherry Blue:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Blue.png)
Cherry Green:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Green.png)
Cherry Purple:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Purple.png)
Cherry Red:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Red.png)
EU - Danish:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/DA.png)
EU - French:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/FR.png)
EU - German:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/DE.png)
EU - Hungarian:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/HU.png)
EU - Norwegian:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/NO.png)
EU - Portuguese:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/PT.png)
EU - Spanish:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/ES.png)
EU - SwedishMoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/SV.png)
I think most, if not all, of the EU layouts use commas on their numpad and not dots since that's what they use for decimals.True that we use comma as decimal separator but our numpads actually have dots and they register as such. It's extremely irking.
I appreciate the work moz, but I ordered the japanese set because I like minimalistic look of the old one. Now if imsto changes it, I'll have to cancel my order
At the risk of sounding like a condescending ass, the set Ivan made is just Japanese legends slapped on an ANSI layout, there are a few important keys missing for it to be truly usable. As a first, Japanese layout uses the JIS layout (Close to ISO) and not the 104-key ANSI.
If the people ordering Japanese set, want to have a minimalistic look with Gothic font, I have absolutely no problem with that and will edit the mockups. I'm just making my services as a designer available. I will upload sample text in a few different fonts and then we can choose the one that looks best?
I appreciate the work moz, but I ordered the japanese set because I like minimalistic look of the old one. Now if imsto changes it, I'll have to cancel my order
At the risk of sounding like a condescending ass, the set Ivan made is just Japanese legends slapped on an ANSI layout, there are a few important keys missing for it to be truly usable. As a first, Japanese layout uses the JIS layout (Close to ISO) and not the 104-key ANSI.
If the people ordering Japanese set, want to have a minimalistic look with Gothic font, I have absolutely no problem with that and will edit the mockups. I'm just making my services as a designer available. I will upload sample text in a few different fonts and then we can choose the one that looks best?
EU - French:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/FR.png)
EU - Hungarian:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/HU.png)
Oops, totally forgot about the mods.Is this the correct layout:99% accurate.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/40WbeZe.png)
The euro glyph on the letter E is placed diagonally opposed to the E, i.e. bottom right of the key, and it's almost never shown on the number 5 key.
The curly brackets are often missing from their respective keys although they actually register like that (Ctrl - Alt - Shift).
For Swedish:
Dot or comma on numpad varies, so both goes.As with danish, some keyboards has a € as sublegend on E, but as it's also available on AltGr+5 I don't see the need for it (doesn't seem to work on my current keyboard either, so I'd say leave it out...).(Probably has to do with "nordic" layouts, so disregard).
Personally I also think that the µ-sub legend can be left out (as it's the only alpha sub-legend and often left out).
The legends do look a little uneven on the picture though, question mark ? and section sign § looks thicker than the rest of the legends, especially the section sign § in relation to the 1/2-legend which is rather thin.
Otherwise, good job! I love the 1.5 u '*-key for ansi keyboards, awesome addition for compatibility.
i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)
again, great job MOZ
i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)
Strongly disagree.
hi MOZ,
i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)
hi MOZ,
i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)
+1 I have to agree. It just looks like it doesn't belong.
hi MOZ,
i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)
+1 I have to agree. It just looks like it doesn't belong.
+1
I would rather have non sideprinted keys. it's way better to have dedicated keys for that
Please I would prefer something more Classic Cherry and less "novelty" like the Miami Nights mess that has random side-printed legends all over the place that do not make sense.
Using the Red Desko mockup as an example, here are my own personal opinions on what I would like to see, and I would appreciate if people could quote me and give a thumbs up to show their approval, or something else if they don't.
I feel we should be sticking with what IMSTO/Ivan has done right in the past, and not add these unnecessary (and sometimes redundant) legends to the side, or modifying the Winkey logos (the exception being a few like Miami or whatever).
YES:Show Image(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)
Original style, no frills, but looks the best/cleanest.
NO (Changes to be made to retain the original layout's characteristics):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sSXg7RH.png)
hi MOZ,
i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)
+1 I have to agree. It just looks like it doesn't belong.
+1
I would rather have non sideprinted keys. it's way better to have dedicated keys for that
+1
Most people joining this set prefer what was originally made by imsto/Ivan, because it was a clean set that followed the "rules" of classic Cherry set legends for the most part.
I feel that following the original style, not messing with the Winkeys, or adding extra/new side-legends to \| and Capslock and stuff is more pure and a better idea.
Also please keep in mind that there are lots of modpacks that lets you add real HHKB legend keys (look at SKIDATA+ Colour Pack for example), and having them sideprinted will look weird, because you won't be able to mix and match them, as you will end up with the same legend side-printed on a key, and then again on the key from the modpack.
tl;dr: This is the 4th round of imsto pbt dyesubs. Every round before this has been great. Don't mess with what isn't broken.
tl;dr: This is the 4th round of imsto pbt dyesubs. Every round before this has been great. Don't mess with what isn't broken.
Karura, appreciate the constructive criticism. I'm not messing with the what isn't broken, but just trying to improve on them and provide something people can see before ordering, which was lacking up until now.
The side-printed legends were for our HHKB layout using brethren, however it doesn't seem like most people want it. Understood and changed in the layouts. Only key I've left it on is the mod-colored 1.5 pipe key, as that isn't part of the OG design in any case and makes sense to have it for those using 1.5U backspace such as in HHKB, TrueFox layouts. However still if members feel strongly against it, I'll remove it.
Regarding the win key, I don't think there is every going to be a consensus on it. I've tried to implement a half-way solution for those not liking the colorful win98 logo and those liking the more neutral win8 logo.
About the AltGr, I have left it for now as I think we should think about those using the sets on ISO or other language boards. I understand the language specific legends are missing. Again, if members feel strongly against it, I can remove it from the non-EU boards.
I've fixed the 0 key in the example mockup below along with the other things mentioned above.Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/04/DeskoRed.png)
Karura, appreciate the constructive criticism. I'm not messing with the what isn't broken, but just trying to improve on them and provide something people can see before ordering, which was lacking up until now.
The side-printed legends were for our HHKB layout using brethren, however it doesn't seem like most people want it. Understood and changed in the layouts. Only key I've left it on is the mod-colored 1.5 pipe key, as that isn't part of the OG design in any case and makes sense to have it for those using 1.5U backspace such as in HHKB, TrueFox layouts. However still if members feel strongly against it, I'll remove it.
Regarding the win key, I don't think there is every going to be a consensus on it. I've tried to implement a half-way solution for those not liking the colorful win98 logo and those liking the more neutral win8 logo.
About the AltGr, I have left it for now as I think we should think about those using the sets on ISO or other language boards. I understand the language specific legends are missing. Again, if members feel strongly against it, I can remove it from the non-EU boards.
I've fixed the 0 key in the example mockup below along with the other things mentioned above.Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/04/DeskoRed.png)
good job MOZ. looking for the same for Arabic, please do remove the backspace sideprint on the 1.5 pipe key and no Gr on Alt. :thumb:it's removed from the alpha color key, do you want it removed from the mod colored key too?
good job MOZ. looking for the same for Arabic, please do remove the backspace sideprint on the 1.5 pipe key and no Gr on Alt. :thumb:it's removed from the alpha color key, do you want it removed from the mod colored key too?
good job MOZ. looking for the same for Arabic, please do remove the backspace sideprint on the 1.5 pipe key and no Gr on Alt. :thumb:it's removed from the alpha color key, do you want it removed from the mod colored key too?
Regarding the Aurebesh and Klingon boards, what would people prefer, English + Aurebesh/Klingon like the Tengwar or something like in the OP?
It's not like I have a wand, flick and boom mockup done :))Regarding the Aurebesh and Klingon boards, what would people prefer, English + Aurebesh/Klingon like the Tengwar or something like in the OP?
Let's see both; I think that'll help us decide.
It's not like I have a wand, flick and boom mockup done :))Regarding the Aurebesh and Klingon boards, what would people prefer, English + Aurebesh/Klingon like the Tengwar or something like in the OP?
Let's see both; I think that'll help us decide.
FYI, for those of you who, like me, want that those few extra keys that probably won't make it into the base set (R3 Control, etc.), I believe IMSTO is willing to do custom keys. I have to imagine they are significantly more expensive per key (his website quotes $3.90 for a custom 1u R1 key) but this might be something to ask him about.You can talk to IMSTO about offering an HHKB addon. Black legends should be compatible with most sets.
It's not like I have a wand, flick and boom mockup done :))Regarding the Aurebesh and Klingon boards, what would people prefer, English + Aurebesh/Klingon like the Tengwar or something like in the OP?
Let's see both; I think that'll help us decide.
Moz, instead of voting for 1, can we have 3 really different ones to choose from to order?
Japanese OptionsShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/04/JapaneseOptions.png)
Feedback welcome, in no way are these the only options.
Karura, appreciate the constructive criticism. I'm not messing with the what isn't broken, but just trying to improve on them and provide something people can see before ordering, which was lacking up until now.
The side-printed legends were for our HHKB layout using brethren, however it doesn't seem like most people want it. Understood and changed in the layouts. Only key I've left it on is the mod-colored 1.5 pipe key, as that isn't part of the OG design in any case and makes sense to have it for those using 1.5U backspace such as in HHKB, TrueFox layouts. However still if members feel strongly against it, I'll remove it.
Regarding the win key, I don't think there is every going to be a consensus on it. I've tried to implement a half-way solution for those not liking the colorful win98 logo and those liking the more neutral win8 logo.
About the AltGr, I have left it for now as I think we should think about those using the sets on ISO or other language boards. I understand the language specific legends are missing. Again, if members feel strongly against it, I can remove it from the non-EU boards.
I've fixed the 0 key in the example mockup below along with the other things mentioned above.Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/04/DeskoRed.png)
I must be in the serious minority. I was a big fan of either A or I.
I must be in the serious minority. I was a big fan of either A or I.
You're not that far off alone. The only difference is the colour swap between the alphabet and Japanese characters.
But I'd still like people's opinions on Serif vs Sans-Serif for the Japanese set?
Has IMSTO agreed to changing any of these? As is it's pretty hectic to make so many dyesub sets.
Has IMSTO agreed to changing any of these? As is it's pretty hectic to make so many dyesub sets.
+1 We need to know what is the actual agreement. I feel that a lot of people are confused as to what's going on.
Has IMSTO agreed to changing any of these? As is it's pretty hectic to make so many dyesub sets.
+1 We need to know what is the actual agreement. I feel that a lot of people are confused as to what's going on.
Yeah, I'm really confused as to what's going on.
Has imsto hired you on to create mock-ups of what the sets will look like? Sorry if that already has been addressed; I probably just missed it.
Right now it seems to me that you and imsto are in some agreement where you'll do the mock-ups based on feedback and the end results are what imsto will dyesub.
Just to clarify, I'm not just creating reference mockups, but hopefully what should be the final sets. I have been in correspondence with IMSTO about this. His previous sets were more or less designed by Ivan, who did a great job no doubt. So this is one aspect he needs assistance with.
Regarding the final keycaps on offer, I have sent him IMSTO a message, but communication isn't his strongest suite :P, still waiting to hear from him.
I think it might best to go with classic Win 98 logo on the Desko, basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami. For some sets, such as the Hangul, Japanese, the win key is quite elegant so I'll leave it. Thoughts?
Has IMSTO agreed to changing any of these? As is it's pretty hectic to make so many dyesub sets.
+1 We need to know what is the actual agreement. I feel that a lot of people are confused as to what's going on.
Yeah, I'm really confused as to what's going on.
Has imsto hired you on to create mock-ups of what the sets will look like? Sorry if that already has been addressed; I probably just missed it.
Right now it seems to me that you and imsto are in some agreement where you'll do the mock-ups based on feedback and the end results are what imsto will dyesub.
Heres what MOZ said a few pages back, hope this helps... :)Just to clarify, I'm not just creating reference mockups, but hopefully what should be the final sets. I have been in correspondence with IMSTO about this. His previous sets were more or less designed by Ivan, who did a great job no doubt. So this is one aspect he needs assistance with.
Regarding the final keycaps on offer, I have sent him IMSTO a message, but communication isn't his strongest suite :P, still waiting to hear from him.
I think it might best to go with classic Win 98 logo on the Desko, basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami. For some sets, such as the Hangul, Japanese, the win key is quite elegant so I'll leave it. Thoughts?
Also +1 Kozuka Gothic :thumb:Show Image(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)
Is it me or is there no option to order the regular black print?
Cherry Black:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Black.png)
It's not on imstos storefrontIs it me or is there no option to order the regular black print?Cherry Black:MoreShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Black.png)
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese setShow Image(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)
if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese setShow Image(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)
if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*
I voted J earlier, but this seems to be the superior choice now to me too, please make it happen!
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese setShow Image(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)
if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*
I voted J earlier, but this seems to be the superior choice now to me too, please make it happen!
OK now we need 10 ppl to get this passed MOQ.
please make it happen IMSTO
Regarding the Japanese set, I think it might best to have two sets if possible:
1. Red-Pink Segoe UI R English -- Black Kozuka Gothic PR6N R Hiragana
2. Black Cherry English -- Red Epson Micho BoldShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/__Japanese.png)
Again, the decision to have one or two, or whatever resides with IMSTO.
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese setShow Image(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)
if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*
I voted J earlier, but this seems to be the superior choice now to me too, please make it happen!
OK now we need 10 ppl to get this passed MOQ.
please make it happen IMSTO
+1 I should be down for this one too then. Any chance to make side prints for HHKB layout compatible though? ;)
Here are the Aurebesh options, I've only done the 60% cluster for now for comparison.
Aurebesh and matching style English legends:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/Aurebesh_Cyber.png)
Only Aurebesh:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/Aurebesh_Pure.png)
Aurebesh with Cherry legends:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/Aurebesh_Cherry.png)
The one with the Cherry legends is my least favorite as the two legends are very contrasting. The one with the matching style English legends looks best IMO.
Regarding the Japanese set, I think it might best to have two sets if possible:
1. Red-Pink Segoe UI R English -- Black Kozuka Gothic PR6N R Hiragana
2. Black Cherry English -- Red Epson Micho BoldShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/__Japanese.png)
Again, the decision to have one or two, or whatever resides with IMSTO.
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese setShow Image(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)
if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*
No one like Ancient Egyptian set? I ordered 1 and I really want to know how it looks like
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese setShow Image(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)
if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*
Yup, agreed. Want this one. I'm in for at least one set maybe two if my wallet allows.
Now I wonder what I have already purchased on the website when I paid for Japanese haha.
Hi MOZ,
Do you think its possible to notify IMSTO to create a Kozuka Gothic Pr6N BOLD set instead of the Pr6N REGULAR?
I think the current crowd favourite is this. J-styled keyset with Cherry font and thick Kozuka Gothic. Essentially the same colours and style as the Mincho set (Black alphabet, Red Japanese), but just simply replacing the Japanese font face with a thick, Gothic style font. The thick Cherry font goes pretty well with the thick Kozuka Gothic BOLD.Show Image(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)
Hi MOZ,
Do you think its possible to notify IMSTO to create a Kozuka Gothic Pr6N BOLD set instead of the Pr6N REGULAR?
I think the current crowd favourite is this. J-styled keyset with Cherry font and thick Kozuka Gothic. Essentially the same colours and style as the Mincho set (Black alphabet, Red Japanese), but just simply replacing the Japanese font face with a thick, Gothic style font. The thick Cherry font goes pretty well with the thick Kozuka Gothic BOLD.Show Image(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)
Hello friends,
I have confirmation that MOZ's mockups are not representative of what IMSTO is putting out, so we can all rest assured that we will see IMSTO dyesub using his own legends for the most part, and not, I repeat, not the mockups that MOZ has been posting.
I assume MOZ's affiliation with IMSTO is limited to the legends he does not currently have, such as the Arabic ones, but for the rest of us, we can rest assured knowing that we'll receive the original-untampered legends, including the Japanese set.
I am happy to be able to clear up this confusion, as I've spoken with a lot of people who also had the same concerns as well, since it was confusing as to why a person unaffiliated with IMSTO was acting on his behalf and directing the legend designs. Rest assured my friends, we'll be getting the good stuff. :thumb:
Hello friends,
I have confirmation that MOZ's mockups are not representative of what IMSTO is putting out, so we can all rest assured that we will see IMSTO dyesub using his own legends for the most part, and not, I repeat, not the mockups that MOZ has been posting.
I assume MOZ's affiliation with IMSTO is limited to the legends he does not currently have, such as the Arabic ones, but for the rest of us, we can rest assured knowing that we'll receive the original-untampered legends, including the Japanese set.
I am happy to be able to clear up this confusion, as I've spoken with a lot of people who also had the same concerns as well, since it was confusing as to why a person unaffiliated with IMSTO was acting on his behalf and directing the legend designs. Rest assured my friends, we'll be getting the good stuff. :thumb:
did you talk to imsto himself? if you get in touch with him again, please remind him to properly arrange the mockups and options on his website.
Hello friends,
I have confirmation that MOZ's mockups are not representative of what IMSTO is putting out, so we can all rest assured that we will see IMSTO dyesub using his own legends for the most part, and not, I repeat, not the mockups that MOZ has been posting.
I assume MOZ's affiliation with IMSTO is limited to the legends he does not currently have, such as the Arabic ones, but for the rest of us, we can rest assured knowing that we'll receive the original-untampered legends, including the Japanese set.
I am happy to be able to clear up this confusion, as I've spoken with a lot of people who also had the same concerns as well, since it was confusing as to why a person unaffiliated with IMSTO was acting on his behalf and directing the legend designs. Rest assured my friends, we'll be getting the good stuff. :thumb:
did you talk to imsto himself? if you get in touch with him again, please remind him to properly arrange the mockups and options on his website.
Yes I managed to speak with IMSTO, but it usually requires quite some time before he replies you. Feel free to message him yourself, and he will get back to you. I'm not affiliated with this GB, just planning to participate myself, so I went ahead and contacted him the same way I just described.
Karura, you're message implies that I've taken this in the wrong direction. I've only done everything that has been suggested. This is quite insulting.
I don't want to share my email history with imsto, but my communication has been quite the contradictory. Maybe it is a language issue.
He has said, he'd like to keep the numbers of sets to a manageable size, which I have iterated since day 1, not all sets will be produced, this is just for reference.
Second, he'd like to keep the colors and font the same, he has said he should have communicated about this to me earlier, and I'll keep that in mind moving forward. He has said that improvements are welcome, such as the Japanese set missing legends on Numpad and keys to be useable as a Japanese set.
[...] IMSTO confirmed with me that he will be using his own dyesub legends for this GB [...]
I'm slightly confused right now.
we can do all we like but in the end IMSTO who decide it.
moz is helping me to make the mockup but not the final ones...
Please, it was never a MOZ GB. Anyways, let's not derail this thread anymore. Imsto can post the final decision himself, he is more than capable.
Hello friends,Hey, thanks for this post - great detail regarding the situation.
I have confirmation that MOZ's mockups are not representative of what IMSTO is putting out, so we can all rest assured knowing that IMSTO will be dyesubing using his own legends for the most part, and not, I repeat, not the mockups that MOZ has been posting.
I assume MOZ's affiliation with IMSTO is very strictly limited to the legends that IMSTO does not currently have, such as the Arabic ones, but for the rest of us, we can rest assured knowing that we will be receiving the original, untampered-with legends, including the Japanese set.
I am happy to clear up this confusion, as I've spoken with quite a few people who also had the same concerns as well, and found it odd as to why a person unaffiliated with IMSTO was acting on his behalf and directing the legend designs for this GB. Rest assured my friends, we'll be getting the good stuff, and only the good stuff. :thumb:
we can rest assured knowing that we will be receiving the original, untampered-with legends, including the Japanese set.But.. What are those "original" legends? He hasn't presented mockups/pictures for a bunch of the proposed layouts.
we can rest assured knowing that we will be receiving the original, untampered-with legends, including the Japanese set.But.. What are those "original" legends? He hasn't presented mockups/pictures for a bunch of the proposed layouts.
The issue here is not that MOZ has been confusing people; it's that people were already confused to begin with, as IMSTO has done a piss-poor job of showing us what the products will actually be. That's why I haven't placed an order.
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Opinion and nothing more :
MOZ's mockups are superb. I wish that IMSTO would move forward with those and those alone. They are extremely well thought out, and while they may compromise in some areas to offer more layout support, they are certainly "the good stuff" in my opinion.
I don't want to start a fight. imsto has told me via mail that although he appreciates the modifications to the designs, he wants to keep things as similar to the OP as possible. This is because people have placed orders on the website, based on those, and doesn't wish to confuse them by changing the design now. He might do another run in the future, with proposed designs.
By keeping things same as OP, he means, same colors and same fonts. Small corrections like the arrows on the numpad in the Japanese set or addition of the missing legends can be incorporated for this round.
Regarding the exact keys on offer, I'm still talking to him about that. I won't post any more updates until I've got complete clarification from imsto about what is on offer.
There's been little feedback (Only you) on the colors and layout
I don't want to start a fight. imsto has told me via mail that although he appreciates the modifications to the designs, he wants to keep things as similar to the OP as possible. This is because people have placed orders on the website, based on those, and doesn't wish to confuse them by changing the design now. He might do another run in the future, with proposed designs.
By keeping things same as OP, he means, same colors and same fonts. Small corrections like the arrows on the numpad in the Japanese set or addition of the missing legends can be incorporated for this round.
Regarding the exact keys on offer, I'm still talking to him about that. I won't post any more updates until I've got complete clarification from imsto about what is on offer.
I don't want to start a fight. imsto has told me via mail that although he appreciates the modifications to the designs, he wants to keep things as similar to the OP as possible. This is because people have placed orders on the website, based on those, and doesn't wish to confuse them by changing the design now. He might do another run in the future, with proposed designs.
By keeping things same as OP, he means, same colors and same fonts. Small corrections like the arrows on the numpad in the Japanese set or addition of the missing legends can be incorporated for this round.
Regarding the exact keys on offer, I'm still talking to him about that. I won't post any more updates until I've got complete clarification from imsto about what is on offer.
And would you happen to know the difference between Hangul and Cherry-style Hangul? Sorry if the answer to these questions are out of your scope of knowledge but you seem to be person with the most intel :P
Thanks in advance!
Didn't realize cherry style might refer to legends altho it was kinda obvious for most I guess...
So Hangul might refer to the one shown in the op which looks an awful lost like this to me:
(picture taken from md)Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/royal-glam-60-wood-keyboard-case/MD-17050_20160321121715_a9a6296c9972f78d.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=2)
And I imagine the Cherry style Hangul might look the same or similar to this picture by Pemdas of Imsto Hangul dysubs from an earlier round.
(mods are bluegaloo and cmyk)Show Image(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1691/25946969056_691cfe57d4_c.jpg)
There's been little feedback (Only you) on the colors and layout
This is the one I've grown to like most:
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i have a hunch that the egyptian will look good. i might pull the trigger on that one.
i have a hunch that the egyptian will look good. i might pull the trigger on that one.
It probably will, the mockup looks nice, but if the Arabic is offered then its end game territory for me xD
I'm a little confused, is there no black legend English option available? Also, I'm thinking of getting the German set as a gift for a friend, is this it?German ist just like the normal black print english layout with QWERTZ. I dont see an option for black english either, tough.
http://imsto.cn/image/cache/data/round4/1-500x500.jpg
bsp limits the layout choices greatly, and my end game is not compatible with their layout xD or else I would agree with you on that :p
bsp limits the layout choices greatly, and my end game is not compatible with their layout xD or else I would agree with you on that :p
seems like MOZ have gone quiet. next week is the deadline and no updates yet on the arabic. :-X
bsp limits the layout choices greatly, and my end game is not compatible with their layout xD or else I would agree with you on that :p
seems like MOZ have gone quiet. next week is the deadline and no updates yet on the arabic. :-X
Sorry I've been real busy with work lately, I'll try and get to it on the weekend. I haven't heard much from imsto on the queries I had regarding the final keys on offer.
I'm a little confused, is there no black legend English option available? Also, I'm thinking of getting the German set as a gift for a friend, is this it?German ist just like the normal black print english layout with QWERTZ. I dont see an option for black english either, tough.
http://imsto.cn/image/cache/data/round4/1-500x500.jpg
Just use the contact form on his website. He replied me in just one day.
So I still don't know what is what and this has like 5 days left to order? The last few pages has people talking about MOZ's mockups not being used and imsto will be using the Ivan fonts. But imsto responded in this thread to me a few weeks saying he WON'T be using Ivan's and will be using his Cherry font which is much closer to the original Cherry layout than Ivan's.
A group buy of this size shouldn't be this confusing 5 days before it ends. He should have refunded everyone awhile ago and started fresh. Even as of now there's only been 70 sets sold. I'm sure there'd be a lot more if we knew what was going on. I'm not comfortable ordering until I see exactly what is going to be printed.
I'm a little confused, is there no black legend English option available? Also, I'm thinking of getting the German set as a gift for a friend, is this it?German ist just like the normal black print english layout with QWERTZ. I dont see an option for black english either, tough.
http://imsto.cn/image/cache/data/round4/1-500x500.jpg
Can we get some Australian legends for this group buy?
Is Aurebesh going to be offered at all?
Is Aurebesh going to be offered at all?
There's an aurebesh option on the website...
Hey MOZ, looks like imsto finally added Aurebesh. Do you know if this design will be like his original mock-up or will it incorporate some of your suggestions?
Hey MOZ, looks like imsto finally added Aurebesh. Do you know if this design will be like his original mock-up or will it incorporate some of your suggestions?
Sorry, I don't know. I've had no further communication regarding legend requirements from imsto on the Aurebesh set or any other set.
I'm a little confused, is there no black legend English option available? Also, I'm thinking of getting the German set as a gift for a friend, is this it?
http://imsto.cn/image/cache/data/round4/1-500x500.jpg
Looks like black was added. Am I correct in my assumption that it'll look like this?Yes, that should be it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VpFLVcg.jpg)
Just email him, I got an reply within 24hours for both questions I had.
Anyone know why blue print is an extra $3?
I tried changing my order to Arabic, but never got a reply from Imsto :(
Man, really wanted to order the Aurebesh set but it looks like I'm the only one so not sure it'll get made. Plus, I preferred MOZ's mockups and it doesn't look like the set will incorporate those. :confused:
Which option is the black printing with colored Win 95 logo?
Also, not to be rude, but what are some opinions on the quality of this PBT set versus the other two classic beige GBs with ABS double-digit from GMK? Which one has what kind if texture?
Which option is the black printing with colored Win 95 logo?
Also, not to be rude, but what are some opinions on the quality of this PBT set versus the other two classic beige GBs with ABS double-digit from GMK? Which one has what kind if texture?
Gateron PBT (which I believe is being used in the GB) has a rougher texture than GMK in my experience. PBT does feel somewhat "special" in comparison to ABS. If I had to choose one over the other, well I already have, and I prefer GMK over the EnjoyPBT set I've sold. And that is based solely on feel. They are both high quality and will certainly do their job for you.
put in a order for a swedish and a cherry style hangul set.
will be interesting to see what cherry style hangul will look like in the end when it ships :))
put in a order for a swedish and a cherry style hangul set.
will be interesting to see what cherry style hangul will look like in the end when it ships :))
Will be interesting to see what swedish look like when it ships... :eek:
put in a order for a swedish and a cherry style hangul set.
will be interesting to see what cherry style hangul will look like in the end when it ships :))
put in a order for a swedish and a cherry style hangul set.
will be interesting to see what cherry style hangul will look like in the end when it ships :))
Will be interesting to see what swedish look like when it ships... :eek:
This is one of the worst group buys I will admit. Very very little information given, and not even official pictures for all of the keysets. I want desko, but without an official photo from IMSTO I'm not joining.
Sorry but this has been piss poor execution
This is one of the worst group buys I will admit. Very very little information given, and not even official pictures for all of the keysets. I want desko, but without an official photo from IMSTO I'm not joining.
Sorry but this has been piss poor execution
the page currently shows "out of stock".. I guess it's over?Yea he said the deadline was April 15th in the first post.
This is one of the worst group buys I will admit. Very very little information given, and not even official pictures for all of the keysets. I want desko, but without an official photo from IMSTO I'm not joining.
Sorry but this has been piss poor execution
imsto isn't really doing it for you. He does production mostly for the korean and chinese scene, and the fact that he bothers to open it to USA is pretty nice.
I'm in for Miami, and Cherry-style Hangul. Between this and the EnjoyPBT gb, I've got 6 PBT sets incoming. Can you tell what my favourite keycap material is? :)
I'm in for Miami, and Cherry-style Hangul. Between this and the EnjoyPBT gb, I've got 6 PBT sets incoming. Can you tell what my favourite keycap material is? :)
Gotta be POM, right?
I need to try some POM keycaps, have loads of PBT and tried some ABS but no POM..I'm in for Miami, and Cherry-style Hangul. Between this and the EnjoyPBT gb, I've got 6 PBT sets incoming. Can you tell what my favourite keycap material is? :)
Gotta be POM, right?
+1 for POM
I'm in for Miami, and Cherry-style Hangul. Between this and the EnjoyPBT gb, I've got 6 PBT sets incoming. Can you tell what my favourite keycap material is? :)
Gotta be POM, right?
+1 for POM
Got my order status updated to: GB ParticipatedSame.
Got my order status updated to: GB ParticipatedSame.
Got my order status updated to: GB Participated
Got my order status updated to: GB Participated
Hopefully we get some updates on this buy as it progresses through production and shipment :P
God damn it, I just returned from a business trip only to find out this GB is over :(
Due to all the confusion I hadn't placed an order earlier, but then was to busy to keep up with this GB.
I was interested in the Irish, Miami and German set. But well, maybe there will be extras :thumb:
any news or updates? my order is still with status: gb participated
anyone who ordered an extra set of miami odessa or wants to sell theirs, i would be willing to pay a good amount over retail
Just to clarify, is this the expected appearance of the Korean set?
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There were some people pushing for thicker alphas. I'd like it to look exactly as it does on that mock up and photos in Lysol's thread showed.
hi, back now. just been too busy.hi imsto,
I will try answer all the question one by one....
if you did not get the rigth answer plz send me a pm.
hi, back now. just been too busy.
I will try answer all the question one by one....
if you did not get the rigth answer plz send me a pm.
Got any extras? ;D
hi, back now. just been too busy.
I will try answer all the question one by one....
if you did not get the rigth answer plz send me a pm.
any news about production? and ETA :3
Got any extras? ;D
no....hi, back now. just been too busy.
I will try answer all the question one by one....
if you did not get the rigth answer plz send me a pm.
any news about production? and ETA :3
preparing to producing.
What's going on with this GB? Lack of updates are starting to irk me; considering contacting paypal for my money back :/
What's going on with this GB? Lack of updates are starting to irk me; considering contacting paypal for my money back :/
Imsto said he's "preparing for producing". Also, you still got plenty of time left to open a paypal case.
Even though, this is my first groupbuy, I'd say: Be patient for another few weeks.
The new Originative "Modern Beige" group buy looks very similar to IMSTO's design. I wonder if they are working with IMSTO on this one. https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige
The sets are still in production.Excellent update. Hoping for the best :cool:
I mailed him last night and he replied that his mother was / is sick. This is the reason for not posting an update in this thread.
He'll do this in the next few days or so...
hi guys, I'd been not on line for a few days since my mather got breast cancer and now is in the recovery periodOh no . I wish her a speedy recovery, hang in there!
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
also got some problems since the ISO enter is still ready but I am working on it.
hi guys, I'd been not on line for a few days since my mather got breast cancer and now is in the recovery period
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
also got some problems since the ISO enter is still ready but I am working on it.
hi guys, I'd been not on line for a few days since my mather got breast cancer and now is in the recovery period
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
also got some problems since the ISO enter is still ready but I am working on it.
hi guys, I'd been not on line for a few days since my mather got breast cancer and now is in the recovery period
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
also got some problems since the ISO enter is still ready but I am working on it.
hi guys, I'd been not on line for a few days since my mather got breast cancer and now is in the recovery period
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
also got some problems since the ISO enter is still ready but I am working on it.
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds
first of all, imsto is a guy.
second, he is very well known of fulfilling orders way past the paypal claim timeframe. i got my stuff after 10 months. some even longer.
third, i am not backing him up, i would just like to point out things though. it is up to you to do what you think best, it is your cash and nobody would ever disagree with whatever decision you would take.
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds
first of all, imsto is a guy.
second, he is very well known of fulfilling orders way past the paypal claim timeframe. i got my stuff after 10 months. some even longer.
third, i am not backing him up, i would just like to point out things though. it is up to you to do what you think best, it is your cash and nobody would ever disagree with whatever decision you would take.
I think he's referring to imsto's mom, who is the one imsto claimed has been ill.
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds
first of all, imsto is a guy.
second, he is very well known of fulfilling orders way past the paypal claim timeframe. i got my stuff after 10 months. some even longer.
third, i am not backing him up, i would just like to point out things though. it is up to you to do what you think best, it is your cash and nobody would ever disagree with whatever decision you would take.
i know, thats why i said im not backing him up. its entirely up to you to either wait or dispute him. whatever you decide, its your own money and everyone would understand.I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds
first of all, imsto is a guy.
second, he is very well known of fulfilling orders way past the paypal claim timeframe. i got my stuff after 10 months. some even longer.
third, i am not backing him up, i would just like to point out things though. it is up to you to do what you think best, it is your cash and nobody would ever disagree with whatever decision you would take.
So was Ivan the mod and look how that turned out. You can't really blame me for not easily trusting in people
imsto, any new update?
are you producing or not (yet)?
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
... at least.
It's getting around the un-refundable date for PayPal and I'm getting antsy.
So it have been 2 months since the last update. If I don't get anything solid I think I'll do a dispute soon.
So it have been 2 months since the last update. If I don't get anything solid I think I'll do a dispute soon.
I will be doing the same
Dang, everyone is freaking out (rightfully so, since vendors need to communicate regularly). Ivan PBT R4 (produced by imsto) which had the same set options took about 8-9 months to produce and ship, so I don't think you need to worry too much at this point.
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds
first of all, imsto is a guy.
second, he is very well known of fulfilling orders way past the paypal claim timeframe. i got my stuff after 10 months. some even longer.
third, i am not backing him up, i would just like to point out things though. it is up to you to do what you think best, it is your cash and nobody would ever disagree with whatever decision you would take.
I have 3 email for different use.... at least.
Finally an update. Has he gotten a new email address ?
Imsto can i get a refund? im getting tired of this if theres no update.Sure
Or maybe someone want to take my spot, 1 japanese set. :(
Thanks imsto for coming here, so when is the Eta approximately?should be arround 3-5 weeks at least.
Imsto can i get a refund? im getting tired of this if theres no update.Sure
Or maybe someone want to take my spot, 1 japanese set. :(
all the layout will be tiny change too.
Thanks imsto for coming here, so when is the Eta approximately?should be arround 3-5 weeks at least.
Thanks imsto for coming here, so when is the Eta approximately?should be arround 3-5 weeks at least.
Thanks for the update. I cancelled my claim. With 3-5 weeks production and e few week of shipping I will have my caps around christmas then?
all the layout will be tiny change too.
I'm sure people are going to want to know what's being changed. If it's anything significant I'm sure some people might not be happy.
all the layout will be tiny change too.
I'm sure people are going to want to know what's being changed. If it's anything significant I'm sure some people might not be happy.
very small change, you will even not find it.
Please refund me too.Imsto can i get a refund? im getting tired of this if theres no update.Sure
Or maybe someone want to take my spot, 1 japanese set. :(
all the layout will be tiny change too.
I'm sure people are going to want to know what's being changed. If it's anything significant I'm sure some people might not be happy.
very small change, you will even not find it.
The ISO users would very much like to see a mockup of how our dyesub legends will look. Will there be text+icon legends on the modifiers or icon only on shift, enter, tab, caps lock etc like pictured below?Show Image(https://s21.postimg.org/hw0nyenbb/Keyset.png)
those who want to make the refund plz send me a email.
those who want to make the refund plz send me a email.
seen this on kbdlabShow Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/474/967/003/d60ccbe90fd088a31706fa16086aa2b7.jpg)
is it imsto pbt?
those who want to make the refund plz send me a email.
I have mailed you about refund about a week ago...
got this from LD ZZ96 Thread:OOOOOOOO
http://sli.mg/a/Izj02v
its nearing completion :thumb:
seen this on kbdlabShow Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/474/967/003/d60ccbe90fd088a31706fa16086aa2b7.jpg)
is it imsto pbt?
no
some of the keys with bad quality photos
IMSTO has the reputation for producing some of the best dye sub keysets in the industry/community. I'm sure we will not be disappointed when we get them and it will all be worth the long, exhausting and sometimes frustrating wait. ;D Nah, just messin IMSTO, I know you had your reasons. I wish you and your fam the best!seen this on kbdlabShow Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/474/967/003/d60ccbe90fd088a31706fa16086aa2b7.jpg)
is it imsto pbt?
no
Thank god! Those looked awful..
Looking forward on pictures on yours imsto
Any chance to add cherry windows keys to my order?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A4BsHaG.jpg)
How much longer will this take? I'm starting to get antsy.
those who want to make the refund plz send me a email.
I have mailed you about refund about a week ago...
yes
just got it. and will handle it.
hi guys, now has a very bad news.
...
hi guys, now has a very bad news.Well this sucks, I have the same question as Wodan (whom btw, was very polite in giving the benefit of doubt here): What were those photos of bagged caps then?
...
Oh.
So I waited over 6 months in vain for my fully compatible Swedish PBT set... *sigh*
Well. Thank you for being honest and open with the situation.
You do? And here I thought that I was in the same situation as soilheart.Oh.
So I waited over 6 months in vain for my fully compatible Swedish PBT set... *sigh*
Well. Thank you for being honest and open with the situation.
What are you missing bro?
Not like I haven't got 10 SAD sets laying around ...
i just want to know exactly time you will ship.. 1 week, 2 weeks?20.......xx
What's the difference between 113 and 117 layout?
LOLWhat's the difference between 113 and 117 layout?
Four keys.
the baged keyset are the base 113 keys waiting for the iso enter keys etc.communicted for a very long time but no response.Makes sense to me too. Thank you for being honest. Now maybe I can get these in time for my Duck Viper/Eagle builds. Hmmm. If we know we want them can you ship sooner than a "few weeks"?
so, i decide to tell you the real fact whats happening.
Is someone already refunded?
When will u start shipping the keyset for those who don't prefer refunds?
Imsto can u check my pm pls. ThanksWhen will u start shipping the keyset for those who don't prefer refunds?
I am packaging the keys one by one and together with the refunds.
I am packaging the keys one by one and together with the refunds.Well I hope this is for real. In two short months it will have been a year. I would really loves these by the time the Duck Viper/Eagle drops.
there is no time able to get the keys?
start the shipping today.
When will u start shipping the keyset for those who don't prefer refunds?
I am packaging the keys one by one and together with the refunds.
hi guys
I will handle all the refunds request ASAP, don't worry.
start the shipping today.
together with the refund request.
imsto, any chance you still have a cyrillic (orange on cream color) set available?
does anyone get it?ofc not
IMSTO - you said you were shipping right before the new year, but no news since... WTF is going on?
imsto, sorry i'm not try to disrespect but i have to ask you. you said you had shipped the keys from december 29 2016... so...
imsto, sorry i'm not try to disrespect but i have to ask you. you said you had shipped the keys from december 29 2016... so...
yes some of them. but not all of them yet.
Hi, man. How it goes with refunds?imsto, sorry i'm not try to disrespect but i have to ask you. you said you had shipped the keys from december 29 2016... so...
yes some of them. but not all of them yet.
together with the refund request.
One thing, he used family reason for one of the delay reason. Hope it is for real..
Imsto, where are you living? can you send me your home adress? i will come to help you to finish this job and take care of your family.with a username like asskicker79? okay guy
I really need to stop getting in on these group buys, looking like burned once again.(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/05/us/05onfire1_xp/05onfire1_xp-master768-v2.jpg)
Not to sound insulting, but first noone insulted imsto's family, people just sugested it might be a lie since this was one the many excuses used by people who have scamed other users. Second, most insults here where directed at imsto and imsto only, mainly due to a severe lack of comunicaton. 5 min is more than enough to come here and just say hi, people will see that he active and still interested in this.https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79769.msg2358232#msg2358232
So guilting people who have all the right to be mad, is not going to work, and only produce the oposite effect at this stage.
Continuing from this, I am sorry if he is going through a lot right now and hope he and his family get better.
If you have received a set, then the best option to contribute to the well being of this GB would be to post some pics with timestamp of the sets, because a close up of caps claimed to have been made by imsto does not constitute any evidence of his work.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79769.msg2358232#msg2358232
I'm just talking about him.
What he said really insulted imsto's family.
And thank you for your advice.
I'll upload some pics about what we get.
Obviously,it was a second account.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79769.msg2358232#msg2358232
I'm just talking about him.
What he said really insulted imsto's family.
And thank you for your advice.
I'll upload some pics about what we get.
Well then how can you assume he wasn't really being helpfull? and second of all....are you serious? A comment from a user with zero post count who has nothing to do with the GB gets imsto's attention to the point of hurting him? come on...
Will wait for the pics. thank you.
In some way again I get my hopes up on getting a refund. If, what you say is true, Imsto will deliver caps and refund people. So let's see what 2017 brings.Thx,
Hope all is well for you and your family imsto.. any chance for a chery hangul style pic?
I just got refund from Imsto. Thank you very much.thanks.
how long does it takes to complete?
Recently, some guys have received their caps.
But they made a mistake in the order of the eyes.
:P
Let me ask himRecently, some guys have received their caps.
But they made a mistake in the order of the eyes.
:P
The top keyboard on the first pic, is that imsto keyset too?
That's enjoypbt.Recently, some guys have received their caps.
But they made a mistake in the order of the eyes.
:P
The top keyboard on the first pic, is that imsto keyset too?
Recently, some guys have received their caps.
But they made a mistake in the order of the eyes.
:P
The top keyboard on the first pic, is that imsto keyset too?
When do you plan to start shipping the orders in the U.S.?Imsto this has gone on forever. We need to know the timeline? 1 week? A month? 3 months?
Please...When do you plan to start shipping the orders in the U.S.?Imsto this has gone on forever. We need to know the timeline? 1 week? A month? 3 months?
Late to the party here. What is that hieroglyphic set in the first post? Is that an option?
Start the shipping today.
Start the shipping today.
Start the shipping today.
Start the shipping today.
Will you provide tracking number?
Start the shipping today.
Start the shipping today.
What about refunds, will these also be processed?
I had not made an account on your website at the time of purchase, I did a guest checkout through Paypal and have recieved all confirmation from your site at my email address, will tracking numbers be emailed, or will it have been necessary to have an account on your site before we ordered?
Start the shipping today.
What about refunds, will these also be processed?
yes also the refundsI had not made an account on your website at the time of purchase, I did a guest checkout through Paypal and have recieved all confirmation from your site at my email address, will tracking numbers be emailed, or will it have been necessary to have an account on your site before we ordered?
when you make the order, one email address was left, the tracking number will be sent to that address.
Start the shipping today.In fact, has anyone received a shipping notification?
Start the shipping today.In fact, has anyone received a shipping notification?
Start the shipping today.In fact, has anyone received a shipping notification?
no shipping notification here.
there are no photos of finished products. just a "start the shipping today" like last time? sorry i don't believe it!
there are no photos of finished products. just a "start the shipping today" like last time? sorry i don't believe it!
There are photos of finished products, please read the thread. I haven't received a shipping notification yet as well.
Okay, I'm the designer of Ancient-Egyptian Layout and also Imsto's friend,I 'm coming to talk about something after my friend told me what happend on Reddit/mk.
Yeah he did not complete the order before the deadline,BUT HE WILL NOT DISAPPER.
Maybe you should know these below first,
If you still insist on using these words to insult him and his family after knowing these things, then I think you lack the basic training to be a gent.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\OK let's see what happend to IMSTO this year.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
1.Ixxn disapperred with the payment of Imsto's caps,Worth about twenty thousand USD.
2.Exjxxpxt unilaterally terminated the relationship with him and stop supply keycaps because Imsto started to sell caps in China so we have to change from 133 to 117.
3.Half of the goods he supplied in the last are defective.('Delete' 'End' 'PageDn' are in wrong color.)
4.His mother was diagnosed with cancer.
5.His father-in-law is seriously ill and now still in hospital.
6.His wife had a car accident and was sent to the hospital.
7.This should be a happy thing, but it makes him more confused:He became a father.
/////////////What would you do if you suffered these in one year?//////////
Career?Family?
He's not made of iron, bros.
He's in a dreadful rush with so much to do in so short a time.
He is a slow man,and he rarely updates production schedules even in his Chinese group not to mention on GH.
But please believe him everyone, we won't lose him.
By the way,let me give you a shipping order,
Mainland of China>Taiwan>International Group
And now some Chinese people have recived their caps these days.
I also recived my work and I made a comparison between IMSTO and RealForce.
Let me show you Imsto's dye-sub skill.
When I met you in the summer.
From an EDM xd
When I met you in the summer.
Sounds like some anime movie.
Another week of silence, three months since the first time Imsto said he started shipping and three weeks since the second time he said he did.
I wonder how many times shipping will "start" before we get our keys :rolleyes:
Ok imsto. I'm going to move in two months and would like to change the adress. How do I do it?
Have anyone gotten there caps yet?
If he started shipping to China, Taiwan and rest of Asia a while ago someone must have got there keycaps by now.
Don't think I've seen pictures of this rounds keys actually on a board.
Ok imsto. I'm going to move in two months and would like to change the adress. How do I do it?
I just submitted a ticket on his site for an address change this week. He got back to me in a day or two to say it was updated. So probably the site is the best way.
Ok imsto. I'm going to move in two months and would like to change the adress. How do I do it?
I just submitted a ticket on his site for an address change this week. He got back to me in a day or two to say it was updated. So probably the site is the best way.
Ok imsto. I'm going to move in two months and would like to change the adress. How do I do it?
I just submitted a ticket on his site for an address change this week. He got back to me in a day or two to say it was updated. So probably the site is the best way.
I moved right after joining this group buy and have tried to contact Imsto 10 times now about my address change and there has never been a response. I have tried both through direct message here at Geekhack as well as through his website, but no response. Not to mention I have asked about it multiple times through this thread. Pretty disappointing.
Ok imsto. I'm going to move in two months and would like to change the adress. How do I do it?
I just submitted a ticket on his site for an address change this week. He got back to me in a day or two to say it was updated. So probably the site is the best way.
I moved right after joining this group buy and have tried to contact Imsto 10 times now about my address change and there has never been a response. I have tried both through direct message here at Geekhack as well as through his website, but no response. Not to mention I have asked about it multiple times through this thread. Pretty disappointing.
Sorry man, plz send me the mail again to imsto#qq.com
Anyone get any refunds yet?
I mean even the people who kept their orders should have gotten 7$ refunds per set right?
Such a shame to see IMSTOs reputation crushed. Delays and personal problems are one thing but making false promises is what hurts the reputation.
anyone got the caps?doubt it. i guarantee there will be an influx of posts when people do start receiving them
i got my refund thx a lot imsto :)Please share experiences on what email address you wrote? I've been several times, wrote on imsto@msn.com
i got my refund thx a lot imsto :)Please share experiences on what email address you wrote? I've been several times, wrote on imsto@msn.com
Thanks, I'll try again, hope this address will worki got my refund thx a lot imsto :)Please share experiences on what email address you wrote? I've been several times, wrote on imsto@msn.com
try sent it to imsto@qq.com
subject : *****GB Round4 Refund*****
your order number
paypal address
i sent him an email 3 days ago, he reply and refund it today ;)
i got my refund thx a lot imsto :)Please share experiences on what email address you wrote? I've been several times, wrote on imsto@msn.com
try sent it to imsto@qq.com
subject : *****GB Round4 Refund*****
your order number
paypal address
i sent him an email 3 days ago, he reply and refund it today ;)
i got my refund thx a lot imsto :)Please share experiences on what email address you wrote? I've been several times, wrote on imsto@msn.com
try sent it to imsto@qq.com
subject : *****GB Round4 Refund*****
your order number
paypal address
i sent him an email 3 days ago, he reply and refund it today ;)
I don't even care about the $7 - I just want my caps!
hi, I am packaging again recently, except some of the refund request I can not see if the address changed or want the keys, so plz send a simple mail if still want the keys with the order ID.(http://i.imgur.com/2jsfax6.jpg)
I am much better now, hope you all good luck.
hi, I am packaging again recently, except some of the refund request I can not see if the address changed or want the keys, so plz send a simple mail if still want the keys with the order ID.
I am much better now, hope you all good luck.
Has anyone gotten a refund recently? I've requested twice at this point.ive requested twice as well, no response.
Imsto can we get a timeframe? Before or after summer?*2017
dunno what to think about this gb anymore :(
Hopefully one day we will see these caps. I remember a Tai Hao keycap GB a few years ago, it took more than a year but they did come. Hopefully this will be the same experience.
This GB was a trainwreck from the start and I stuck with it, now I wish I had just gotten out when I had a chance...same... i opted a refund at one point and retracted it when he said its shipping but then this until now... :'(
But hey, maybe citi can come back and give us an update since his update was better than any update imsto has given us.
I just got an email from imsto saying he'd ship my keys tomorrow. It looks like our long journey is wrapping upso did that happen?
I still haven't gotten an email about shipment yet, anyone else in the same boat?Yes. Haven't heard anything for months..
One of the three sets I ordered came today!
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One of the three sets I ordered came today!
(Attachment Link)
Congrats! Did you receive any kind of shipping notification or tracking number before they showed up?
You'll never believe what showed up today!MoreNOTHING!
Do anyone know if he sends with fedex? I maybe have a package in Limbo atm... The adress seems to be wrong and I have not got any tracking number.
Emailed him on both his MSN and QQ adresses. Never experienced something like this before.
Imsto where are you?Imsto is on vacation with your money
And also yoursImsto where are you?Imsto is on vacation with your money
Hi guys, Imsto will not use enjoypbt's caps anymore, it really put him to shame in this groupbuy. he'll produce one by himself.
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He is testing the caps now and it will be finished in November.
/////
To be honest I think he will finish the whole caps and start shipping in Jan 2018, It's just my personal prediction.
he'll produce one by himself.imsto will be producing keycaps by himself? If so, that's interesting, is he doing cherry profile?
Yes of course.he'll produce one by himself.imsto will be producing keycaps by himself? If so, that's interesting, is he doing cherry profile?
Can you ask him why he so rarely responds for long periods of time and keeps us guessing? I had to personally reach out to citi because Imsto does not respond on his email(s).Maybe afraid to face us.
Can you ask him why he so rarely responds for long periods of time and keeps us guessing? I had to personally reach out to citi because Imsto does not respond on his email(s).Maybe afraid to face us.
Hi guys, Imsto will not use enjoypbt's caps anymore, it really put him to shame in this groupbuy. he'll produce one by himself.
/////
He is testing the caps now and it will be finished in November.
/////
To be honest I think he will finish the whole caps and start shipping in Jan 2018, It's just my personal prediction.
Hi guys, Imsto will not use enjoypbt's caps anymore, it really put him to shame in this groupbuy. he'll produce one by himself.
/////
He is testing the caps now and it will be finished in November.
/////
To be honest I think he will finish the whole caps and start shipping in Jan 2018, It's just my personal prediction.
Does that mean that we will get the ISO layouts that were promised in the beggining of this group buy ?
keys and money are gone forever!You really bring us a lot of fun.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/2e8acdc4a9fa145900a456f41fb6524e.gif)
Who runs this site these days? How is a vendor allowed to keep his private area on the forum when he hasn't even logged in, in 6+ months?
Who runs this site these days? How is a vendor allowed to keep his private area on the forum when he hasn't even logged in, in 6+ months?
I will happily explain.
What happens if we close his vendor subform/lock threads? Should he return he can't access anything and cannot update his threads.
What happens if we limit his ability to post in his subform? See above.
What happens if we ban him? See above.
I get that this **** is frustrating, but the mod team is and has been very explicit (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0) how we handle these issues. At this point, members gain nothing if we shut his account down. Basically if we take any punitive action towards him at this point, there is really no reason for him to come back and fulfill his ongoing orders and group buys. At this point the best to hope for is his return and faith that he upholds his morals to fulfill the gb.
I can tell you that he last post was made in China. I think its pretty common knowledge that china has many restrictions on their internet, which could be the reason why his posting is limited, but not an excuse as to the status of the GB.
If the MOD team hears from him, or has any relevant information for GB participants, we will share that information to all.
Who runs this site these days? How is a vendor allowed to keep his private area on the forum when he hasn't even logged in, in 6+ months?
I will happily explain.
What happens if we close his vendor subform/lock threads? Should he return he can't access anything and cannot update his threads.
What happens if we limit his ability to post in his subform? See above.
What happens if we ban him? See above.
I get that this **** is frustrating, but the mod team is and has been very explicit (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0) how we handle these issues. At this point, members gain nothing if we shut his account down. Basically if we take any punitive action towards him at this point, there is really no reason for him to come back and fulfill his ongoing orders and group buys. At this point the best to hope for is his return and faith that he upholds his morals to fulfill the gb.
I can tell you that he last post was made in China. I think its pretty common knowledge that china has many restrictions on their internet, which could be the reason why his posting is limited, but not an excuse as to the status of the GB.
If the MOD team hears from him, or has any relevant information for GB participants, we will share that information to all.
He has his own damn forum setup by the mods so you are part of this whether you want to be or not. This isn't some rando group buy in the group buy subforum.
But let's say he does come through with this group buy in 3 months. Is he then OK to continue doing them in the future? We're about to hit TWO GOD DAMN YEARS with no one receiving their caps. And that isn't even the problem. It's the lack of communication. imsto hasn't even logged into to the site in 7 months. I'm sorry but no one should have their own forum if they can't even keep their customers up to date on what is going on. I know the mods aren't responsible for where people spend their money, but come on. I didn't even buy into this group buy. I was just hoping to snag some leftovers but that ain't happening.
who will ship first, IMSTO or Ivan? :confused: :confused: :confused:dont worry imsto is just embarrassed that is all
dunno what to think about this gb anymore :(
ya rly what's g00t imst0 breh
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hey
love me some keycapsdunno what to think about this gb anymore :(
ya rly what's g00t imst0 breh
for a sense of scale
Latest update from the man himself:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5JzlAqwl.jpg)
Latest update from the man himself:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5JzlAqwl.jpg)
No pics, no packages, no layout mockups. AIKB taobao shop looks like it has been shut down. I cant search baidu but I havent seen any chinese members get their caps either..Latest update from the man himself:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5JzlAqwl.jpg)
Nice, now the hopes are up again.
Lets see when they will be crushed one more time!
It's all good guys I think he started shipping orders around the middle of last year. Shipping is just kinda slow.
It's all good guys I think he started shipping orders around the middle of last year. Shipping is just kinda slow.
The caps were supposed to start production what, over 2 years ago? I have a hard time believing that they're still being shipped.
I hate to break it to you dog, we're not getting our caps. I said bye to my money months ago lmao.
That was sarcasm by the way. Hes never coming back.It's all good guys I think he started shipping orders around the middle of last year. Shipping is just kinda slow.
The caps were supposed to start production what, over 2 years ago? I have a hard time believing that they're still being shipped.
I hate to break it to you dog, we're not getting our caps. I said bye to my money months ago lmao.
no uIt's all good guys I think he started shipping orders around the middle of last year. Shipping is just kinda slow.
The caps were supposed to start production what, over 2 years ago? I have a hard time believing that they're still being shipped.
I hate to break it to you dog, we're not getting our caps. I said bye to my money months ago lmao.
yikes