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Title: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:14:08
Hello everyone,

I'm a huge fan of vintage keyboards, IBM SSK is very popular in the keyboard community. I always want to make a MX compatible SSK.
Original SSK uses curved plate but MX switches always uses flat plate. Each rows need to have different angles. It also need to use a curved PCB to make it work.
I have no idea how to make it work at first. After a lot of research, I find IBM 5576 plate spring keyboard uses a very thin PCB and a curved plate.
Inspired by that, I tried different thickness of PCB. As a result, 0.6mm PCB works.
However, 0.6mm PCB can't use PCB-mount Stabs, so I use Plate-mount Stabs instead.

Here are some renders from thesiscamper:
(https://i.imgur.com/lkXiroT.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/xb1EWGv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/h7K6XGb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Owl72os.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ze3kce5.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/u9GfCCV.png)

Features:
Price:
TBD (estimate around $400)

I will update more pics when I get prototypes.
Please leave your feedback below.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Agilr on Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:32:40
Wow

This is a looker for sure :eek:

Will keep updated on this, and would love to see a proto on-hand soon :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Jaystice on Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:35:42
Siiick, cant wait to see prototypes
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: reccatyo on Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:45:02
It's time to save again.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Pluto19 on Wed, 09 October 2019, 03:05:04
This is super cool. I'm lookin' forward to seeing this progress.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Seoulcialite on Wed, 09 October 2019, 03:10:54
9009 looking real sweet in those renders.

You should consider running a small GB for SP SA Row 3 9009 along with the keyboard. I believe MOQ for SP is only 25 for stock colors. Albeit the price would be $200-$220 at a small amount of orders but I'm sure you could find 25 or more willing participants even at that price.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: hhkbp2 on Wed, 09 October 2019, 04:07:28
Nice. :thumb:
Looking forward to the prototype and typing test.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 09 October 2019, 04:50:20
Wait wait wait wait wait.
Let me get thsi straight, because I almost didn't believe it when I read the title.
This is still just using MX-styled switches, right?
You're not doing something super crazy like an buckling-sping-to-MX adapter, right?
Because, eff me, a man can dream.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Wed, 09 October 2019, 05:39:53
Quote from: nguyenhimself on Wed, 09 October 2019, 04:50:20
Wait wait wait wait wait.
Let me get thsi straight, because I almost didn't believe it when I read the title.
This is still just using MX-styled switches, right?
You're not doing something super crazy like an buckling-sping-to-MX adapter, right?
Because, eff me, a man can dream.

Yes!!! You can use any MX swithes you want (Cherry, Gateron, Kailh, etc.)
And you don't need use any parts from original IBM SSK.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: ba7777 on Wed, 09 October 2019, 06:22:21
So sick ****! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 09 October 2019, 08:16:10
With a solenoid inside for that extra thock!
I'm sold.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: dantambok on Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:13:46
Niiiice
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:46:27
Wow... this is looking real nice.  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: AdrianMan on Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:15:55
I want one, please add me to the list
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: equalunique on Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:49:01
Curved 0.6mm PCB? Heck (yeah!)

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Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Thu, 10 October 2019, 02:52:34
Quote from: Seoulcialite on Wed, 09 October 2019, 03:10:54
9009 looking real sweet in those renders.

You should consider running a small GB for SP SA Row 3 9009 along with the keyboard. I believe MOQ for SP is only 25 for stock colors. Albeit the price would be $200-$220 at a small amount of orders but I'm sure you could find 25 or more willing participants even at that price.

SP SA keycaps need a long production time, maybe we can try XDA 9009?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: blighty on Thu, 10 October 2019, 08:04:37
Nice job!  Will this be run through zfrontier?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: WHAT!? on Thu, 10 October 2019, 08:06:54
If you make this I will buy it. I don't even think its an option. If this exists, I own it.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: growler on Thu, 10 October 2019, 09:02:58
I'm strictly a 60pct and less guy, but this does have me at least following it closely...

growler

Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 10 October 2019, 21:13:44
definitely interested in this
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Thu, 10 October 2019, 22:32:06
Looks great!


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Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Fri, 11 October 2019, 06:53:03
Quote from: blighty on Thu, 10 October 2019, 08:04:37
Nice job!  Will this be run through zfrontier?

I haven't decided how to run this gb, but vendor will not be zfrontier. :D
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: utilitytech on Fri, 11 October 2019, 10:58:41
Decided, it's only two meals per day from today till the GB date.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 11 October 2019, 11:15:51
i am interested
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: CancerPatient on Sat, 12 October 2019, 23:54:54
ne chance of a non-HS pcb?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Sun, 13 October 2019, 01:08:00
Quote from: CancerPatient on Sat, 12 October 2019, 23:54:54
ne chance of a non-HS pcb?
Yes, there are. Since the PCB is just 0.6mm i got to test the hotswap as well. I have ordered a PCB prototype and i will update it here!
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: isaackang7 on Sun, 13 October 2019, 10:56:14
Looks great!


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Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: ramnes on Sun, 13 October 2019, 14:34:06
hey drclick, looks awesome! pls make the case compatible with original SSK internals so that I can have a real case for my FSSK <3
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Mon, 14 October 2019, 00:59:37
Quote from: ramnes on Sun, 13 October 2019, 14:34:06
hey drclick, looks awesome! pls make the case compatible with original SSK internals so that I can have a real case for my FSSK <3
Sorry,it's only compatible with MX.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: ramnes on Mon, 14 October 2019, 02:04:21
then please do another IC for the original SSK :D
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Tue, 15 October 2019, 00:22:27
Quote from: ramnes on Mon, 14 October 2019, 02:04:21
then please do another IC for the original SSK :D
Maybe later.Now we just working on MX one
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Wed, 16 October 2019, 02:04:22
(https://i.imgur.com/V1QeN68.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZpMv5WR.jpg)

Got my prototype PCB today ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Agilr on Wed, 16 October 2019, 02:11:01
that f l e x h o l y  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: beekey on Wed, 16 October 2019, 12:48:30
Quote from: Drclick on Wed, 16 October 2019, 02:04:22
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/V1QeN68.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZpMv5WR.jpg)


Got my prototype PCB today ;D
This looks cool.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: ba7777 on Wed, 16 October 2019, 21:57:37
make the pcb transparent plz.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: appaboy on Wed, 16 October 2019, 22:13:02
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: beekey on Thu, 17 October 2019, 01:57:56
Quote from: appaboy on Wed, 16 October 2019, 22:13:02
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
+1 would look much cleaner without.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: WHAT!? on Thu, 17 October 2019, 09:17:09
Quote from: beekey on Thu, 17 October 2019, 01:57:56
Quote from: appaboy on Wed, 16 October 2019, 22:13:02
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
+1 would look much cleaner without.

Yeah I might have to hop on this train. It's not a deal breaker for me though. I can take it or leave it, but I do agree it would be better without.

That PCB though. That's cool. With the board being flexed and curved like that, you don't anticipate any switch contact issues?




(as a completely un-related side note... the captcha that needs to be filled out for every post on this forum is a bit much).
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Thu, 17 October 2019, 22:54:44
Quote from: WHAT!? on Thu, 17 October 2019, 09:17:09
Quote from: beekey on Thu, 17 October 2019, 01:57:56
Quote from: appaboy on Wed, 16 October 2019, 22:13:02
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
+1 would look much cleaner without.

Yeah I might have to hop on this train. It's not a deal breaker for me though. I can take it or leave it, but I do agree it would be better without.

That PCB though. That's cool. With the board being flexed and curved like that, you don't anticipate any switch contact issues?




(as a completely un-related side note... the captcha that needs to be filled out for every post on this forum is a bit much).

The badge will be a PVC sticker like OG SSK, I can add more options when gb start.

Non-HS PCB should be fine but I need to test HS PCB first.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: steezkeez on Thu, 17 October 2019, 23:21:28
Count me in  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:32:16
Update some SSK badges.
Which one do you like? :D
(https://i.imgur.com/bd2jXCj.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/xP1d0B1.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/S3tcs4d.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/c3bJVgW.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/CWKDfq4.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:33:34
Quote from: Drclick on Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:32:16
Update some SSK badges.
Which one do you like? :D
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bd2jXCj.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xP1d0B1.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/S3tcs4d.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/c3bJVgW.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CWKDfq4.png)


3 and 5 are my favorites
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:42:39
Quote from: Drclick on Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:32:16
Update some SSK badges.
Which one do you like? :D
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bd2jXCj.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xP1d0B1.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/S3tcs4d.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/c3bJVgW.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CWKDfq4.png)


3 > 5 > 2
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Pluto19 on Tue, 22 October 2019, 00:11:32
Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:42:39
3 > 5 > 2

Exactly this :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: AdrianMan on Tue, 22 October 2019, 06:20:26
3 on Gray / White board
5 on black board
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 22 October 2019, 10:15:56
3 or 5 for me as well!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: senter on Tue, 22 October 2019, 14:01:20
MAO white should look great with this design.

Questions:

1. What's the connector type?

2. Are there adjustable feet like on real SSKs?

3. How does the solenoid mount?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Wed, 23 October 2019, 01:06:26
Quote from: senter on Tue, 22 October 2019, 14:01:20
MAO white should look great with this design.

Questions:

1. What's the connector type?

2. Are there adjustable feet like on real SSKs?

3. How does the solenoid mount?

1. usb type-c
2. no adjustable feet
3. It will be an extra daughter board on the bottom case to mount solenoid
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: WHAT!? on Wed, 23 October 2019, 11:30:43
Quote from: AdrianMan on Tue, 22 October 2019, 06:20:26
3 on Gray / White board
5 on black board

This for me as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Tue, 29 October 2019, 03:19:21
(https://i.imgur.com/uzeobVB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nDyvkKv.jpg)

Badge sample on my IBM SSK. :p
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: NathanielGoodtimes on Tue, 29 October 2019, 21:05:51
I think Im feeling it!
Its a big sucker!
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 29 October 2019, 21:42:04
Curved mx plate/pcb is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while.  I hope this succeeds.  Also, I wish we could get plastic instead of aluminum, but that would be a whole different project, i suppose. 
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 29 October 2019, 22:40:30
Quote from: Drclick on Tue, 29 October 2019, 03:19:21
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/uzeobVB.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/nDyvkKv.jpg)


Badge sample on my IBM SSK. :p

Damn that looks pretty cool, thought the logo was sus at first and I know sus, but that ain't bad :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Tue, 29 October 2019, 23:17:28
Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 29 October 2019, 21:42:04
Curved mx plate/pcb is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while.  I hope this succeeds.  Also, I wish we could get plastic instead of aluminum, but that would be a whole different project, i suppose.
Plastic will need a mold which is quite expensive.Need a much higher MOQ than CNCed Aluminum. If this one is a succeed project,i will consider to make a plastic one in the future :p :p :p
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Tue, 29 October 2019, 23:20:12
Quote from: switchnollie on Tue, 29 October 2019, 22:40:30
Quote from: Drclick on Tue, 29 October 2019, 03:19:21
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/uzeobVB.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/nDyvkKv.jpg)


Badge sample on my IBM SSK. :p

Damn that looks pretty cool, thought the logo was sus at first and I know sus, but that ain't bad :cool:
Yes, PVC logo could be colourful and it doesn't cost too much
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: AdrianMan on Wed, 30 October 2019, 02:53:29
Quote from: Drclick on Tue, 29 October 2019, 23:17:28
Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 29 October 2019, 21:42:04
Curved mx plate/pcb is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while.  I hope this succeeds.  Also, I wish we could get plastic instead of aluminum, but that would be a whole different project, i suppose.
Plastic will need a mold which is quite expensive.Need a much higher MOQ than CNCed Aluminum. If this one is a succeed project,i will consider to make a plastic one in the future :p :p :p

Any chance for Policarbonate case ?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Wed, 30 October 2019, 03:06:49
Quote from: AdrianMan on Wed, 30 October 2019, 02:53:29
Quote from: Drclick on Tue, 29 October 2019, 23:17:28
Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 29 October 2019, 21:42:04
Curved mx plate/pcb is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while.  I hope this succeeds.  Also, I wish we could get plastic instead of aluminum, but that would be a whole different project, i suppose.
Plastic will need a mold which is quite expensive.Need a much higher MOQ than CNCed Aluminum. If this one is a succeed project,i will consider to make a plastic one in the future :p :p :p

Any chance for Policarbonate case ?
Need to find out about it.But i am worried about the shape change for a Polycarbonate case.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: AdrianMan on Sat, 09 November 2019, 13:24:00
What stabilizers will be compatible ?

I'm wondering if the new C3  pcb mount screw in stabs will work
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Nonnegaard on Tue, 17 December 2019, 01:32:13
If you dont put navies on this, youre a monster. Also, im in... probably. Im broke.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: WHAT!? on Tue, 17 December 2019, 09:04:00
Any updates for this project? I'm still very hopeful to see this come to fruition.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: FRANCO on Tue, 17 December 2019, 13:42:13
Loving all of these modern takes on vintage keyboards
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Wed, 18 December 2019, 22:54:21
Quote from: AdrianMan on Sat, 09 November 2019, 13:24:00
What stabilizers will be compatible ?

I'm wondering if the new C3  pcb mount screw in stabs will work
Sorry, no. We use plate mount stabilizer for this and we will give a set of stabilizer in the kit,so you don't have to buy any stabilizers for this kit.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Wed, 18 December 2019, 22:55:42
Quote from: WHAT!? on Tue, 17 December 2019, 09:04:00
Any updates for this project? I'm still very hopeful to see this come to fruition.
The prototyping is taking longer than we expected. They need custom tools and it will use a 4 aixs machine. It's very complicate to CNC them so it need more time.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 18 December 2019, 23:00:29
No rush.  Get it right. This project is very unique and I’m looking forward to progress.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: WHAT!? on Thu, 19 December 2019, 07:56:24
Quote from: pixelpusher on Wed, 18 December 2019, 23:00:29
No rush.  Get it right. This project is very unique and I’m looking forward to progress.

Same sentiment from me as well. Just getting antsy waiting on news. I'll just keep on hanging out though.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 19 December 2019, 09:40:57
I have missed this IC until now. I agree that it's pretty cool, and I'll keep my eye on it.

If someone could make a blue F1, F2, nav cluster, and arrow key add-on kit, that would be extra cool.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: HungerMechanic on Tue, 11 February 2020, 12:57:59
Can you clarify why SA profile is recommended for this board? Is it because of the curved angle of the board, the need for tall keycaps with this shape, or both?

Would MT3 Profile work? Thought about running a KAT 9009 GB?

I don't like the way SA-profile keycaps fit on modern MX boards. Would they be more optimal for this SSK? How would my Filco R3 SA caps do?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 11 February 2020, 15:21:48
Quote from: HungerMechanic on Tue, 11 February 2020, 12:57:59
Can you clarify why SA profile is recommended for this board? Is it because of the curved angle of the board, the need for tall keycaps with this shape, or both?

Would MT3 Profile work? Thought about running a KAT 9009 GB?

I don't like the way SA-profile keycaps fit on modern MX boards. Would they be more optimal for this SSK? How would my Filco R3 SA caps do?

He's recommending tall, uniform profile keycaps.  No need for sculpted rows since the plate is curved.  Any uniform profile should work well, in theory.  So yea, the R3 filco caps would be good.  KAM profile might work as well.  KAM wraith seems like a good option for this one.  MT3 is contoured/sculpted, so it might be exaggerated with the curved plate to the point of discomfort.  But no one knows for sure without testing. Hope to see an update in here one day from OP.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: HungerMechanic on Tue, 11 February 2020, 20:27:18
Thanks, that clarifies things a lot.

I can see now why non-sculpted caps would be desired. Yeah, KAM Wraith makes sense for this one.

I bet blue or purple Filco SA would also look interesting. Although even the brown ones I have would look natural on gray.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Man In Blue on Tue, 11 February 2020, 21:32:10
How do you think KAT would work out? Even those might end up being too sculpted for this.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: daintySPLASH on Fri, 14 February 2020, 20:17:42
This is looking incredible. Assuming a metal badge will be standard or at least an option for this? Hope this goes well and you decide to take on another classic like the z-150 or something :)
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 16 February 2020, 13:31:06
Just noticed this is listed as a coming soon GB on thekey.company:
https://thekey.company/products/relic-ssk

Has this been fully prototyped yet?   Do plate mounted stabilizers work on a curved plate?  Do hotswap sockets work on a curved PCB?  So many questions :)
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: i luv chuletas on Sun, 16 February 2020, 23:47:33
This is up there with the coolest projects I've seen on GH yet. Definitely interested in getting one myself. Will be watching~

(also noticed that it's listed as coming soon, any news for us?  :D)
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: pear_voz on Tue, 18 February 2020, 21:01:50
Love the idea, looking forward to see the prototype man <3
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: MANOS on Mon, 24 February 2020, 16:49:09
Definitely, getting this!
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: AuDiTH on Wed, 26 February 2020, 11:53:57
Interested, can't wait to see a prototype!
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Dafraz117 on Wed, 26 February 2020, 23:19:39
Interested


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Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Jaltr on Thu, 27 February 2020, 07:14:46
never experienced an old board, but willing to get into it with this!
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: godziraaa on Sat, 29 February 2020, 20:05:20
Super excited for this GB! :D
Any news on the prototypes?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: i luv chuletas on Mon, 02 March 2020, 11:25:13
I'm just noticing the whole 'non-sculpted' recommendations for this one.

How do you reckon a GMK set would feel/work on this kit? I bought Darling hoping to slap it on this once if finally comes out, only to then realized that seems not to be the best route to take lol.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: WHAT!? on Thu, 05 March 2020, 08:07:54
Spotted new renders on The Key Company's website. Showcasing Infinikey LedZep.

(https://i.imgur.com/8CbkP7P.jpg)

https://thekey.company/collections/ledzep/products/infinikey-ledzep
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 05 March 2020, 08:19:40
Quote from: Drclick on Wed, 16 October 2019, 02:04:22
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Got my prototype PCB today ;D

How do you plan on keeping the PCB flexed during building/installation?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 05 March 2020, 09:59:02
Quote from: constexpr on Thu, 05 March 2020, 08:19:40
Quote from: Drclick on Wed, 16 October 2019, 02:04:22
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Got my prototype PCB today ;D

How do you plan on keeping the PCB flexed during building/installation?

You can flex it using tape and a hair dryer.

https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13551&start=

(https://deskthority.net/download/file.php?id=29326&sid=901780cf9514ac4bde92722ebac1da2a)
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Little4Real on Thu, 05 March 2020, 19:13:36
Any ALPS support?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Harke on Fri, 06 March 2020, 00:11:17
wow this looks nice. does this have an extra PCB and plate for the f row, because they look like they are on an angle.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: jurah01 on Sat, 07 March 2020, 17:42:10
I found this keyboard on https://thekey.company/collections/upcoming-releases/products/relic-ssk and I am in love with the retro feel in a tenkeyless format.

Would these keycaps work with it?

https://drop.com/buy/gmk-triumph-adler-keycap-set#overview

What kind of cable will it use? usb-c, usb-micro, ps2?

+1 to no badge, or optional badge sticker.

I registered for this site purely to keep track of this group buy so I don't miss it! Is there a better way to be notified as soon as the buy starts?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:49:09
Quote from: constexpr on Thu, 05 March 2020, 08:19:40
How do you plan on keeping the PCB flexed during building/installation?
The PCB will be screwed into the top case.
When I get the prototype, I will show you how to build.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Drclick on Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:54:14
Quote from: Little4Real on Thu, 05 March 2020, 19:13:36
Any ALPS support?
If enough people want an ALPS version, I will make one.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: godziraaa on Mon, 09 March 2020, 18:03:00
Quote from: jurah01 on Sat, 07 March 2020, 17:42:10
I found this keyboard on https://thekey.company/collections/upcoming-releases/products/relic-ssk and I am in love with the retro feel in a tenkeyless format.

Would these keycaps work with it?

https://drop.com/buy/gmk-triumph-adler-keycap-set#overview

What kind of cable will it use? usb-c, usb-micro, ps2?

+1 to no badge, or optional badge sticker.

I registered for this site purely to keep track of this group buy so I don't miss it! Is there a better way to be notified as soon as the buy starts?

If you look up in the thread a bit you'll see most of your questions have been answered  :D

Drclick said it will be USB-C, and the GMK keycaps should work but it's recommended to use SA or SA-like Keycaps (such as XDA, DSA).
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: ISOxSwap on Mon, 09 March 2020, 21:16:38
I'd like one in in plastic and ISO like the original for around 200€or less. 😉👍
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 10 March 2020, 09:40:37
Still waiting for this to happen. So excited :)
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: PocketAces on Tue, 10 March 2020, 09:51:17
Would you ever run this design but in a 75% form factor if this one is successful? I think it would look really interesting with the same height but a slightly shortened width.


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Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Kimjuhyuk on Wed, 11 March 2020, 09:25:52
Do you have any estimated date or month for this board ?? I'm very interested in this board. I wonder when it publish and some of notify.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Muramasa on Fri, 13 March 2020, 02:16:30
Quote from: Drclick on Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:54:14
Quote from: Little4Real on Thu, 05 March 2020, 19:13:36
Any ALPS support?
If enough people want an ALPS version, I will make one.

Please make an Alps version!
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: htprww on Fri, 13 March 2020, 19:12:27
Is there a discord channel for this project?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: peterfiction on Sat, 14 March 2020, 13:08:06
very interested in this, i will keenly be watching for more info on the GB
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: TalksToChalk on Tue, 31 March 2020, 19:05:21
Any chance to get a non-hotswap version, and a case color that matches the original off white/beige?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: piercejenkins on Wed, 15 April 2020, 17:08:29
I'm in!! Any way to get notified?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: AuDiTH on Wed, 15 April 2020, 18:02:43
Interested in an alps version
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Righo on Fri, 17 April 2020, 18:12:52
Any updates man? I'm in and hoping it gets to groupbuy soon, thekeyco keeps teasing with renders on Instagram.

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Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Cods on Sat, 25 April 2020, 18:00:40
Interested. Also interested in Alps version.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: nu_types on Sun, 26 April 2020, 00:58:35
+1 for alps
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: BruceDinh on Sun, 26 April 2020, 02:57:09
First of all, I really admire you. The project is very interesting and worth watching. The idea of ​​making a curved keyboard is not new, but no one has solved it yet. (in custom keyboard) I have also thought about it, the plan is to separate each Round into each pcb and plate. But doing so will make the center of the plate very sag when typing if doing the top mount. PCB mount can be partially solved but inside the case it will be relatively difficult to cnc.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: powahause on Wed, 29 April 2020, 01:13:54
I'm having a nightmare thinking about the PCB production, but this is serious dedication to the ibm design
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Acid_Rag on Sat, 09 May 2020, 12:50:40
Just came across this on the key dot co and I'm really excited for the group buy whenever that opens up.

Would the solenoid be able to be turned on and off?
Either through a key command or function in QMK or some kind of switch on the bottom or back of the case?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 09 May 2020, 18:28:43
Quote from: Acid_Rag on Sat, 09 May 2020, 12:50:40
Would the solenoid be able to be turned on and off?
Either through a key command or function in QMK or some kind of switch on the bottom or back of the case?

Not the runner, but the answer to that is almost certainly yes.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 12 May 2020, 00:55:00
Quote from: Acid_Rag on Sat, 09 May 2020, 12:50:40
Just came across this on the key dot co and I'm really excited for the group buy whenever that opens up.

Would the solenoid be able to be turned on and off?
Either through a key command or function in QMK or some kind of switch on the bottom or back of the case?
There definitely would be a toggle keymap for it. Just like the Beamspring controller has it. There's also folks who have put solenoids inside their regular MX custom cases.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: AdrianMan on Sun, 17 May 2020, 07:23:59
We want this !
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: riterdando on Sun, 17 May 2020, 07:24:50
For sure!


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Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: ZoomBoy on Sun, 17 May 2020, 08:27:54
Beautiful! I'll be watching.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: gminso on Fri, 05 June 2020, 11:41:34
+1 for alps
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Axariel on Tue, 09 June 2020, 21:52:18
+1 for solenoid
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: MANOS on Tue, 09 June 2020, 23:06:07
+1 for updates.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: riterdando on Thu, 11 June 2020, 04:00:33
+1 for updates
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: syke on Thu, 11 June 2020, 10:58:23
Not a fan of the SSK logo, otherwise it is pretty cool.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: TalksToChalk on Thu, 11 June 2020, 12:23:51
Updates plz


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Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: ExtCordStudios on Sat, 20 June 2020, 02:58:19
No beige :(
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: deathwalker113 on Tue, 23 June 2020, 06:45:01
Please update! I really like the aesthetic of the SSK and I will definitely buy the E-white one.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Owl on Tue, 30 June 2020, 17:48:44
God I just can't wait for this thing. it's so wonderful. I need it on an emotional and spiritual level.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Axariel on Tue, 30 June 2020, 23:43:30
Yes, not having this is making me sad...der  :(
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Mitchie on Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:47:30
Love the look of this,

Will keep an eye out for updates.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: esc on Thu, 02 July 2020, 09:55:37
I wonder whether a curved PCB is going to be a problem.  Would the flex stress make it more likely to crack over time?  Could the stretch/compression of the traces be a problem long-term?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: KeebCalmAndCarryOn on Thu, 02 July 2020, 23:26:03
Very nice, definitely interested?  Will the GB be unlimited? Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: glowcloud on Sun, 05 July 2020, 03:02:07
Came to see if there were any updates, but I would like to add my vote to the beige request. I'd like to just go all-in for the retro look if I got one.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: manaorme on Tue, 14 July 2020, 03:26:32
Is this still in work?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: ZoomBoy on Fri, 17 July 2020, 09:43:07
Bump for updates. Any way a mod can ask what's up? Don't want to be disappointed! :)
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: drfranco on Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:37:19
Intriguing. However, as I would use this in a Windows/Mac/Linux environment, a WKL only kills it for me.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: i luv chuletas on Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:52:54
Quote from: drfranco on Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:37:19
Intriguing. However, as I would use this in a Windows/Mac/Linux environment, a WKL only kills it for me.

It's QMK compatible, just reprogram to literally anything else lol.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: riterdando on Thu, 13 August 2020, 17:06:17
Is this dead?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Cods on Thu, 13 August 2020, 19:59:27
Quote from: i luv chuletas on Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:52:54
Quote from: drfranco on Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:37:19
Intriguing. However, as I would use this in a Windows/Mac/Linux environment, a WKL only kills it for me.
It's QMK compatible, just reprogram to literally anything else lol.
That’s not preferable for quite a few people - I’ve got an SSK and a couple of full size Model Ms and I gravitate toward the M with three keys to the left of Space as that’s where my muscle memory assumes my fingers will find ctrl/alt/win/apple/whatever.
The OP gets to make the decisions about what they want to build - it’s their project - but having a crack at others for making an observation on what layout they’d prefer isn’t particularly helpful. I’m another who thinks this is a cool project, but won’t buy it if it’s only available win key less.
LOL.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 27 August 2020, 10:35:14
Just patiently waiting for an update...  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: hvontres on Thu, 27 August 2020, 15:02:20
Quote from: Drclick on Wed, 16 October 2019, 02:04:22
Show Image
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Show Image
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Got my prototype PCB today ;D

Based on the Prototype PCB, It looks like you can have three modifiers next to the spacebar, so a winkey should fit in the 1U space between CTRL and ALT. Assuming this ever gets made...
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: WHAT!? on Wed, 23 September 2020, 09:09:57
Quote from: hvontres on Thu, 27 August 2020, 15:02:20
Assuming this ever gets made...

Hopefully it gets made... This thread is approaching its one year anniversary. Starting to feel like this ain't gonna be a thing. :/
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: ZoomBoy on Fri, 02 October 2020, 15:14:46
Agreed. Would love an update. People have money waiting, don't understand the lack of transparency with these expensive things.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Havattack on Tue, 13 October 2020, 12:16:17
Man, i get all excited reading the OP, especially the "Solenoid" part, then skip to the end of the thread to find it's probably dead in the water. Bummer.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: Silyl Ether on Tue, 22 December 2020, 00:16:15
Relic SSK has removed from TKC upcoming page. what happen? is still alive?
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: ZoomBoy on Fri, 01 January 2021, 11:00:57
Quote from: Silyl Ether on Tue, 22 December 2020, 00:16:15
Relic SSK has removed from TKC upcoming page. what happen? is still alive?

Would love an update from OP since he is consistently active on GH.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: i luv chuletas on Mon, 04 January 2021, 09:33:40
Quote from: ZoomBoy on Fri, 01 January 2021, 11:00:57
Quote from: Silyl Ether on Tue, 22 December 2020, 00:16:15
Relic SSK has removed from TKC upcoming page. what happen? is still alive?

Would love an update from OP since he is consistently active on GH.


I think it would be safe to simply assume that this is DBA until whenever we do get an update guys. And that's if ever.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: snurrebassen on Mon, 04 January 2021, 12:52:45
damn i love the look of this


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Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: zoo on Mon, 04 January 2021, 13:18:53
I have a soft spot for designs inspired by older keyboards :D
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: pears on Thu, 10 March 2022, 14:14:01
Holy necro
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: ZoomBoy on Thu, 10 March 2022, 15:01:16
Quote from: pears on Thu, 10 March 2022, 14:14:01
Holy necro

Posting my once per year inquiry into an update.

Currently typing on an NCR clone from China with Holy Pandas, but would love to be typing on this instead.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 13 March 2022, 09:06:57
Might be it has already be considered:

How can the hotswap pcb design accommodate the per-row convex curving design of the SSK?

Edit: it read it such a long time ago, including the discussion of the flex solution... but solution has not yet been announced (for so long that I forgot having read that).
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: gipetto on Mon, 14 March 2022, 14:16:12
Quote from: menuhin on Sun, 13 March 2022, 09:06:57
How can the hotswap pcb design accommodate the per-row convex curving design of the SSK?
switches may have to be placed with a wider vertical spacing than the standard 19.05mm to avoid the keycaps crowding. i don't think placing and removing the switches would be an issue since they taper to the top of the switch, and worse case scenario, each switch would have to be placed one after another in a column rather like slating the roof of a house.

personally i'd love to try a 3d printed preonic clone with a curved integrated plate like what OP is doing with this model m clone.
Title: Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
Post by: iBurley on Mon, 14 March 2022, 19:38:32
Here's the only issue I have with this board. As somebody who only very recently moved off of daily driving a Model M for a decade, that little ridge across the bottom of the board may be seen as an integral part of the design and you may think it's necessary to achieve the look that you're going for, but adding it to a modern board just for the sake of homage would be a massive mistake. You'd either need to make it wider or axe it all together in my opinion. I kept my Model M immaculate. I cleaned it all the time, full disassembly probably every six months for a full decade of use, but that ridge is nigh impossible to clean out, and we're talking about a plastic board where I'm willing to sit and try to scrape it out with a hobby knife, an anodized aluminum board with that ridge would be torture. For your sake and everybody else's, at least render it out once without that ridge and decide from there.